Arknights

[versed compass]

he is now a lane holder

[ebon sphinx]

I always felt the damage feels so low anyway that it doesn't make much of a difference

[versed compass]

good enough to kill trash

[strong rampart]

Raise Texas more

[quaint arch]

Well, you?
Do you have both Taxes?

[strong rampart]

No

For reminding me, you get a 1000 hr mute

[quaint arch]

It's the unavoidable reality.
If only you whaled once more for the Taxes

[strong rampart]

I whaled on education instead

[quaint arch]

Fair...
Just don't make it go to waste

[strong rampart]

[quaint arch]

Ain't no way you whaled on Education and not using it to it's fullest, duh

Anyways, how's your Daily Gaming?

[tribal thicket]

I can't seem to make Penance good

Mudrock always outperforms instead

[digital bone]

Well, fuck

Why her out of all 7 operators I have

And with this exact fucking rejection

[quaint arch]

Will you instantly fail the run?
Is there something to suppress the rejection?

[tired sky]

there are some ways to remove rejections but probably not worth using it on magallan

just get a better operator instead and move on

[quaint arch]

Bruh, Maggie is Carrying the run, i'm sure

[tired sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

maggie and her turrets "carrying" you

[quaint arch]

Just play more with Penance

Someday you'll see the way

[digital bone]

Welp, lost the run, but tbh, not that too hung up over it

I just used her to carry me because I haven't even progressed past the first upgrades in IS3

[violet vortex]

Auto activation is the best rejection to get

Everything else sucks way more

Speaking of carries Mind Over Matter book has made solo runs a joke

Especially if it’s just a0 basically any half decent character can solo now

[digital bone]

Normally, I agree because it barely affects a lot of my best units, but Magallan is just really bad because it removes her bots

Like seriously, I had a Lappland there too, why not hit her

[quaint arch]

Desire Sensor

[versed compass]

just use better ops

👏

[wanton stratus]

Wtf

Tf is this Shadoba 2 shi

[versed compass]

totally not stolen clear

[strong rampart]

Deadge

[ebon sphinx]

POO done, good fucking riddance

[wanton stratus]

I actually managed to do it entirely on my own, disregarding the support unit. It took over an hour to kill the last three power armors though

They really had several morbillion hp each

[wanton stratus]

Celebrated the clear by eating some moldy sausage

[tired gulch]

We really gonna be doing this through the stall game, huh?

You know what? Can I see which risks y'all took for 600?

[ebon sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/@Arkchive/videos i just follow the videos here

[violet vortex]

I took these after a bit of trial & error but this is day 1

Likely a lot easier mixing in more of the other day tags

Would probably do this if incorporating new tags

[hot rampart]

holy shit its that guy who tried to do base videos

[violet vortex]

Tested with the new tags and some issues popped up but I can’t be bothered ironing out runs I don’t like this mode

[violet vortex]

Alright I lied, here

Abusing new tags can make their attack so low that you remove the random deaths to bad heal timing

[violet vortex]

Silvergunn actually has a funny clear that involves afking for hours

https://youtu.be/3vmCsZ6sLDk?si=zMwnmIdKEFCSYRRz

Showcasing reaper archetype value

[ebon sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxuywTtvLWE

[quaint arch]

Metal Crab Mountain
Not Metal Gear Herman?

[ebon sphinx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3apI-b2ask

[versed compass]

aoe class that actually dont exchange their damage for the aoe

[wanton stratus]

If you still want to know, here’s mine

I leaked Dorothy

But don’t do this unless you want to deal with 3 morbillion hp mechs at the end

Grim’s risks are probably better

[tired gulch]

Alright

And frankly? I'll take the Morbillion

[wanton stratus]

In that case I’d strongly recommend you bring GG S2 purely for the grind at the end, if you can

Res ignore goes a helluva long way here

Or Ceobe with mod ig

[tired gulch]

Good thing I have my own Ceobe already

[wanton stratus]

Nice

Mine’s E290 S2M3 but has no mod yet

[violet vortex]

Important thing to note that I didn’t know was possible

On floor 4 at least you can get handed the light based ending lock relic choice

Before being handed the light gain encounter

I got hit with hesitation followed immediately by the light gain encounter

[versed compass]

ya the tree is can appear anywhere from floor 2 to 5 i think regardless of the second ending encounter place

i still have not gotten the great one

always vigil/hesitation

[violet vortex]

Brought Ifrit by mistake to floor 6 fight

Got emergency

Ifrit got the buff

5k attack

Does 0 damage

Mule’s summon attacks

Does 0 damage

[quaint arch]

Ahh, the Chapter 9 Stage

[versed compass]

5k attack attacking every 7 years is pretty bad ya

[violet vortex]

Nah the damage was also like 0

I forgot she was a caster still

[quaint arch]

No way

I don't think it'll be that easy, bruh

[tired gulch]

I am already struggling.

[quaint arch]

Best Ongoing Game of TGA
Nah, bruh. That's just made up.

[violet vortex]

Play defenders

[tired gulch]

And Defenders I did

And my god. Any impatient person would tear their heads off with how much health those Assault Armors have

[versed compass]

i recall someone in another discord who streamed his run

set up an afk stall

went to sleep

woke up

robots still alive

[wanton stratus]

Should’ve brought GG smh my head

Also, where’s your Ceobe mod?

[wanton stratus]

How long did it take, btw? Did you time it?

[hallow garnet]

i dont understand how this sanctuary criteria shit works

im trying to get the medals

and idk how to get perserverance up to 100

i did every risk alrdy for it

is there a trick to make the number go higher?

or am i missing something

[wanton stratus]

@hallow garnet Atk up risks increase perseverance, atk down on operators risks increase perseverance and fighting spirit

You’re way past 100 just with that

[hallow garnet]

i copmleted every single risk

why am i not 100 then

ah wait i get it. do i have to put out 100 at once

for these

[wanton stratus]

Yes

[hallow garnet]

okay

[hallow garnet]

I dont get it

i put 115 for defense one

and look it even shows it as my personal best

so why tf is it stuck at 55 still???

@wanton stratus

[hot rampart]

was there any buff that u took with the run?

[versed compass]

ui sucks thats all
it will still count as 100 for the medal so just do the other 2

the numbers is for your 600 run but this part is actually your best in that catagory (which wont show in numbers cause fuck you)

anyway just do insight/reaction for the medal

[tired gulch]

Nope. If you ask me? I just sped it up

I probably spent 20 minutes if I hadn't sped it up, at least

[ebon sphinx]

https://vxtwitter.com/AKEndfieldJP/status/1736221196528885909?t=uvyPLsZsrgqbUT5WErbvEw&s=19 "Angelina-senpai"?

talking about the OG Angelina I presume

also, next event soon, they started posting banner details

[hot rampart]

the best designed

operator

there is

[violet vortex]

Just learned that the explosion when Izumik enters phase 2 hits invisible

[violet vortex]

Why did they have to hit this one

At least this was funny

Kroos had +175 attack speed

[hallow garnet]

ah okay

what a shit design lol

[versed compass]

sadge

if it hit yato that stage become gg ez

actually if you have 1 redeploy relic it might be possible to solo with yato

[violet vortex]

Not with the damage I was doing

Her s3 was doing maybe

1/5th a jellyfish

So yeah needed the relic to hit her or a redeploy relic if I was going to risk a solo to guarantee

[wanton stratus]

It truly is. Did you get the medal?

[wanton stratus]

Damn, 3 times faster than me

[tired gulch]

I'm just patient

[versed compass]

ya i meant if blue dance hit her its easy

without she wont do a lot of damage to them

[hallow garnet]

i got the progression

havent finished it yet, will do later

[wanton stratus]

What medals are you missing?

[hallow garnet]

insight and reaction

[wanton stratus]

[hallow garnet]

alr im done

bye poooooo

[versed compass]

CC beta

[hallow garnet]

why does atk recovery even exist ?

im tryna think why it's beneficial to have that on an op

outside IS and its "look i have a million asp" scenarios

cuz i just feel like exalter is fked by atk recovery

[violet vortex]

Likely a balancing mechanism at first with the added bonus of attack speed buffs being good with it

Reapers get placed in multi-tile positions so the attack recovery shouldn’t be too bad

[quaint arch]

(Should've not edited it via Discord)

(Kinda sucks )

[fluid verge]

Anyone rolling for exec

[violet vortex]

You

[versed compass]

dw he still super good lol

module boost him too by a ton

[violet vortex]

Reapers are just a strong class in general

Waiting for Ulpianus to come out

[hot rampart]

me

[hot rampart]

attack recovery skills uptime has much faster cycle than normal sp charge ***if *** they have something to attack constantly

another thing is

they are not affected by SP regen nerf risks

rexecutor may not be broken

but he is very good and thats all that matters

[hallow garnet]

alrighty

his s2 looked great for tanking a lot of waved shit

and s3 seems like it has solid dmg

and only need to wait 2 months for module

or potentially less

cuz im guessin after exalt patch we go into eyalt patch and skip typhon

cuz it's gunna be january

[versed compass]

crusher ulpainus

[quaint arch]

Hmmm.... What do I see in Ark Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/18kzp1x/module_for_reaper_class_is_coming_early/

[tired gulch]

You will not be missed.

[wanton stratus]

“Another deadweek, another dollar ” - Yostar, probably

How far behind can we go?

[hot rampart]

meanwhile

[versed compass]

ok am not sure if this is true or not but appearntly jp notes says reaper modules are coming with executer

[quaint arch]

I'm earlier

[versed compass]

wdym am a min earlier

[quaint arch]

[hot rampart]

thats epic

cuz

otherwise we get rex module on eyjalter anyway

which is soon too

[versed compass]

pluma moduleing soon tm

[hot rampart]

as much as i love la pluma i dont think im gonna bring her much anymore when rex is a thing

ofc u have the just use both mindset

but

but

but yeah

idk

[versed compass]

i wont pull for executer anyway

[hot rampart]

understandable

[versed compass]

and i think i will still use pluma/humus in IS overrall

[hot rampart]

i should invest in humus

2 hope reaper in IS is rad af

[versed compass]

highmore is stuck on IS3 but will module her anyway cause why not

[hot rampart]

at least global theres a use case for her

cuz is4 not here yet

when her module drops

[versed compass]

conisdering how they delayed IS3 wont be surpirsed if they did the same with 4

IS4 with double VI banner am calling it

[hot rampart]

ouh they definitely delaying is4

but

god forbid they delay typhon with it too

[violet vortex]

Never used Pluma

Just Humus/Highmore

They’re likely swapping the release

Exe -> Swire/Eyja -> Typhon

[versed compass]

pluma is pretty much better highmore out side of IS3

[versed compass]

they probably dont have too i think

but then this is hg we talking about

i feel like they gonna release IS with big events from now on

[quaint arch]

Or they release IS#4 alongside with it's Mini-Event

Who knows? There's a possibility for it at least.

[violet vortex]

“Yeah I’ll do a GG start to spice things up”

[versed compass]

its just +35 res

you should be fine

[bleak mirage]

Whew. Finally free to game again

[wanton stratus]

Arknights
Game
Choose one, sir. We only play glorified gambling simulators around here

[hallow garnet]

i mean i didnt need any convincing. i see hot man i roll

but this makes sense yea

then again they could have just not made him mid baseline

[bleak mirage]

I chose whatever I feel like doing next

[violet vortex]

I swear this fight is impossible to tank

There must be an aspect to this fight I don’t understand

Because it summons

Almost literally 100 jellyfish

The strat to tank has to be blocking off every jellyfish spawnpoint & not the blue box but how in the world do you do that

You would need 4 self sustaining holders against whatever is summoned that also does damage

Maybe I’m just not noticing when it enters a phase where I can hurt it or something

Because it just summons a thousand jellyfish, then somewhat quickly goes for blue box

Alright I understand it’s when they’re in the middle that the phase change into something you can hit

I stand corrected it’s after they either get full hp or after they reach the middle & lose that weird yellow swirl

[hallow garnet]

an empy emoji. good taste

[bleak mirage]

Thank you sir. I am big fan of sad liv

[wanton stratus]

Wish I could learn this power

[strong rampart]

Variety

Thats like asking why defensive recovery existed before Blemi

Mudrock go brrr is quite fun

[quaint arch]

Factor Xa
What?

[hallow garnet]

yes but thats functional and has actual purpose

mudrock charges that shit fast

[hot rampart]

Future event farms

@strong rampart ^ help pin

[strong rampart]

And Offensive recovery is different, how?

It’s just the opposite of defensive

[wanton stratus]

Are you saying offensive recovery has no purpose while defensive recovery does?

[strong rampart]

I had a lot of fun with offensive recovery comps when the sp risks were a thing

[wanton stratus]

I feel like they intended to order the power of skills by what charge type they had, going from per second<offensive<defensive, culminating in Eunectes, who was essentially defensive recovery but worse before her module. Since she failed with a design that was sound in theory but not good in practice I guess they felt they hit their creative limit or something as Penance is the only defensive recovery op that had meta relevance since, not counting defenderknights

Clearly they know per second recovery is the best overall, as they displayed with Degenbrecher’s kit

[hallow garnet]

i feel like def recovery is more functional

in terms of mudrock

but bigger sp cost stuff? no

both atk and def recovery are bleh a bit

only good under very specific circumstances

while autosp is a lot more universally usable

low sp cost stuff i can get behind being atk/def rec

but every other case it's strictly worse

[wanton stratus]

Eh

[hallow garnet]

and exalter could have been better if he wasnt auto

hes essentially supposed to be ground chen

[wanton stratus]

At optimal conditions off/def recovery skills charge faster than auto even without support

[hallow garnet]

but hes cursed with the ammo mechanic AND the atk recovery shit

[wanton stratus]

So on average it shouldn’t be that much worse

[hallow garnet]

and that his rng dps boost increases with the less ammo he has

meaning your last few shots will be the biggest ones

but you dont really have a way to control that

and you dont have a good frontload burst either cause of this

cuz the real big burst is at the end of ur skill

[wanton stratus]

Just manually end the skill

[wanton stratus]

We love rng talents though, wdym

[hot rampart]

GET ME OUT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[wanton stratus]

Can’t even see what op you’ve got above Hoshi lol

[hot rampart]

chong

[wanton stratus]

If this a last day risk 600 rush?

[hot rampart]

kinda

[wanton stratus]

Or a max risk attempt?

[hallow garnet]

but

no?

[hot rampart]

max risk

this map?

yeah hell nah

[hallow garnet]

like you cant really save the big ammo shots

cuz if u stpo the skill it's gone

like

[hot rampart]

if someone doing max risk on this shitty map they need mental therapy by the end of it

[hallow garnet]

i dont get why they did him like this

i honestly do like his s2 tho

makes him a very cool laneholder

[wanton stratus]

Horn S2 works the same way, just for an example

[hallow garnet]

vs very aggressive stuff

[hallow garnet]

and i never use horn s2 for the same reason

also horn isnt atk recovery

and she has a fast sp cycle

[hot rampart]

its not gone if anything he likely to kill 95% of the enemies ingame before he even goes through all his ammo

[hallow garnet]

sigh

[wanton stratus]

But like, most skills have a set duration so you have to time their activation properly. Execalter S3 is no different

[hallow garnet]

i'll just have to level him and see

i see too much doompost

and reading his kit didnt make me feel better

[hot rampart]

he believes the doompost

idk man

[hallow garnet]

but no skill makes oyu do more damage at the tail end of the duration

[hot rampart]

u want him to be mlynar tier?

[hallow garnet]

fuck yes

[hot rampart]

thats a pretty high bar

im gonna be honest with u

ur expectation is WAY to high

if u want him mlynar tier

cuz mlynar is 1 of the broken operator AK ever designed

his whole kit is just fucking crazy

[wanton stratus]

No, the most broken is clearly Frostleaf

Duh

[hallow garnet]

so

what tier is exalt?

like

gimme a match

so i can understand his powerlevel

[hot rampart]

gavialter

but better

[hallow garnet]

i-

i never use gavialter

for some reason

[hot rampart]

cuz shes not afk

[hallow garnet]

thats not it

[hot rampart]

and she isnt doing mlynar tier dps either

[wanton stratus]

Should’ve said “La Pluma” lol

[hallow garnet]

i use shit like rosa a lot

and ash

[hot rampart]

do u ever see

people say gavialter bad

[hallow garnet]

no

but i see ppl say exalt bad

or "mid"

[wanton stratus]

My homie 🤝

[hot rampart]

yeah becuz i think

they are dumb

hurr durr

[hallow garnet]

also i play fkin cheeto

[hot rampart]

attack recovery

[hallow garnet]

a fuckton

im hardly an afk-only player

[hot rampart]

i think im glad

exalter is attack recovery

[hallow garnet]

im dumb too

thats why im here

whining

so you can wise me up

[hot rampart]

otherwise i can easily see his skill cost being 60 sp for s3 if its auto recovery

[quaint arch]

No. You did this to yourself. Just go touch grass in the meantime. You won't realize how much time passed just by doing that.

[hallow garnet]

@hot rampart do u think his s2 will be used?

cuz i do like its premise

[hot rampart]

maybe on some trash lanes u want him to lane in

[wanton stratus]

It’s hella gonna be used in cursed rng fest clears

[hot rampart]

he will easily be like

mountain

on that lane

[hallow garnet]

cuz i do plan on m6ing him

s1 seems useless

meant to be the pluma-like afk skill ig

[hot rampart]

yeah nah

stick with s2

[hallow garnet]

but with a weirdly high sp cost

yeah s2 s3

[hot rampart]

its becuz

it has like 4 ammo?

[hallow garnet]

ah so it's

[hot rampart]

actually no

[hallow garnet]

chen s1

[wanton stratus]

Eh, really? S1 seems better for laneholding than S2

[hot rampart]

8 sp cost for 8 ammo

yeah

u are right about that

its like chalter s1

[hallow garnet]

which is also never used

hmm

do u think hes m9 worthy then?

no right?

[quaint arch]

Mastery changes nothing aside from damage and Def Ignore

[hot rampart]

it actually has shit dph

[wanton stratus]

Guess you didn’t see my Sargon desert annihilation clear

[quaint arch]

If only it changes the SP cost

[wanton stratus]

[hallow garnet]

dont even know what sargon desert is

[quaint arch]

That R6 Annihilation Map?

[hot rampart]

if it was 6 sp cost at m3 i consider it

[quaint arch]

[wanton stratus]

Yes

[hot rampart]

but for 4 extra sp cost

[hallow garnet]

rip

[hot rampart]

u get his s2

[hallow garnet]

m6 it is then

[hot rampart]

which is only 12 sp cost

[quaint arch]

Sandstorm Fries my phone

[hot rampart]

and have higher attack multiplier

+80%

[hallow garnet]

now that i have u here

whats ur stance on hoederer?

[quaint arch]

I blame game design

[hallow garnet]

cuz i saw him being doomed too

maybe ppl just want every male to be mlynar

[hot rampart]

real

[wanton stratus]

real

[hot rampart]

hoederer looks good

[quaint arch]

"Sorry sir, not every men can be a SA Powercreept."

[hot rampart]

seems like a modern "boss" killer
or well he definitely can survive bosses that tend to 1 shot ( except patriot cuz that guy 1 shot is 3 heavy hits )

50 sp cost for 70 duration skill is pretty wack tho

[wanton stratus]

It was kind of funny how he deals true damage DoT and the very next event Arturia drops

[quaint arch]

It's 58.3% Uptime Skill

Good uptime skill

[hot rampart]

his upside is having fairly high DPH
but due to his attack speed the dps is not that amazing

[wanton stratus]

Yeah, wow, he’s so strong for 2021

[hot rampart]

s2 is very funny

unconditional +40% attack

[hallow garnet]

so put aak?

[quaint arch]

NO

0 Defense

[wanton stratus]

We live in a society where Zumama S1 exists

[quaint arch]

[wanton stratus]

[hallow garnet]

put aak and shining

[quaint arch]

Putting Shining
Might as well do Steroid Memes

Like Chanka Danka

[wanton stratus]

It’s copium supreme at that point

[hallow garnet]

ooh

okay

hoederer s3 is giving me mudrock s3 vibes

somehow

how come we dont have more asp buffers

like it's only aak

[wanton stratus]

Hello? Spuria?

Literally next event

[hallow garnet]

isnt she shit

[quaint arch]

Wdym? We have Minor ASPD Buffers

[hallow garnet]

[quaint arch]

Like Saileach

[wanton stratus]

Nah

[quaint arch]

[wanton stratus]

People are just bad

[hallow garnet]

ah she only gives it to SNIPERS

this aint helping hoederer

wait she makes them stun themselves?

wtf

[fluid verge]

spuria is probably the worst 5 star in the game now

[wanton stratus]

Real OGs bring Ayerscarpe for aspd

[wanton stratus]

But Windflit exists

So that’s not possible

[hallow garnet]

what the hell are crushers supposed to be anyway?

[quaint arch]

https://youtu.be/jPsW34Ntm2U?feature=shared

[fluid verge]

fuck u supah

carnelian is my onee san

[quaint arch]

[wanton stratus]

Spuria good, shut up

[fluid verge]

that e2 smile

[wanton stratus]

I can f- her

[fluid verge]

cant fix that massive L of a kit

[wanton stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fuzz-chief-inspector-police-bill-nighy-yes-i-can-im-the-chief-inspector-gif-23948258

[quaint arch]

Sponge

Literal HP Sponge

[hot rampart]

https://fxtwitter.com/ArknightsEN/status/1736959543328800874

[hot rampart]

its over...

[violet vortex]

Did you have fun

[quaint arch]

No.

Pls make the difficulty of the risks much more sensible

Also, if I may ask, what are your thoughts on both IS#2 and IS#3? @violet vortex

[violet vortex]

I like them both, anything in particular?

[quaint arch]

Let's say bosses and Difficulties between them.

[violet vortex]

After awhile difficulty wise the normal difficulty modes will become too easy with familiarity

Is3 is leagues harder than Is2 because the ascension system is just built to be harder

If you cap them out

Hard mode Is2 is just a switch on/off

I do think that Is2’s other modes did it better than Is3’s

Since they lock you into normal mode a0 for them

[quaint arch]

Agreed

[violet vortex]

Which causes them to be kind of boring

The theme was also just better for Is2’s there

I really do like the ascension system though over just hard mode / normal mode

Glad they’re bringing it back for Is4

[quaint arch]

So you enjoyed the difficulty system on IS#3

[violet vortex]

Was fun to climb it & the intense difficulty of it when doing ending 4 makes it feel more rewarding getting better at it

Compared to if I just did an a0 run to see the ending itself

[quaint arch]

Haven't got to 2nd Ending cuz grinding relics

(Technically I did, but on Deep Investigation mode)

I wonder...
Is doing D15 really feel restricting for you?

[violet vortex]

Yes & no

I assume by restricting you mean the units I use

[quaint arch]

That's one of them

[violet vortex]

Yes in the sense that there are a core of units I aim for each time. No in the sense that I still do frequently have variety depending on the relics I get

The limitation is more in my raised roster than it is the mode itself

Although the mode does have certain checkboxes at a15 you kind of have to do

Like having a source of stun is important if you don’t have super cracked damage

Blocking/Holding a lane is fairly difficult for a lot of units so you’re more incentivized to draft flexible. But some relics enable it to be more hold still

Casters shine when they get their specific broken relics, otherwise the innate +20 res kills their viability against most enemies

[quaint arch]

IS#3 values Crowd Control much more than IS#2, ye?

[violet vortex]

I wouldn’t say crowd control in a big as much as I’d say some small instances of it are better in it

[quaint arch]

Oh yeah...
20 additional RES on D15

[violet vortex]

This is why Reserve Op Caster is unplayable

They do next to no damage even on floor 1

[quaint arch]

Is Integrated Strategies in general hate Casters?

[violet vortex]

One of the best things this ending 4 update brought was Mind Over Matter relevance too

[quaint arch]

Ah yes

Le Relic

[violet vortex]

The book is really broken but it adds a nice extra layer of strategy

You don’t want to bring units you won’t use

Out of fear they get hit by the book & waste it

[quaint arch]

Yeah

[violet vortex]

So you sometimes bench good units for a stage

And floor 4+ into an a15 run that stuff gets a lot more decisive on stages

With one of the biggest differences between Is2 & Is3 being that stages are just plain harder

Upto the boss

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I haven't heard much about Casters relevance in IS#4. I wonder how they fare there?

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Floor 4/5 have blowout stages that are complete hell on some teams

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Out of Control

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Don’t know since I’ve avoided spoilers

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Oh...

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Casters do have broken relics though

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Which makes up for their weakness overall if you get then

The -12 res for each caster deployed for instance

Doesn’t just remove the a15 downside, it outright makes most enemies 0 res

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They make Casters on Integrated Strategies Relic-Dependent, huh?

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The +3% atk / +2attack speed one for each relic you have is stronger than Old Fan

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Yeah they go from bad to busted if you get the books for it

Which does add variety to a run going down that path instead

Assuming you have them built in the first place

Majority of the units I’ve built have been for IS

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What OPs are you always gonna have in Squad (if Possible) when playing D15?

Like, the very core for you to possibly win on D15

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Texas/Yato/Kroos Alt but I wouldn’t say to possibly win since if I wasn’t doing ending 4 I wouldn’t need to get them for it
Defenders I sometimes go Mudrock/Penance/Blem
Vanguards Mule/Ines
Guards the Reapers/Mlynar
Casters I’m still building, rn I only grab Eyja but I plan to build Mostima soon too. POO drained a lot of my lmd leveling things to 90
Specialists are massive. Jaye, Ethan, Texas, Yato, Weedy
Snipers I always go Kroos Alt, but Pozy/W/Exu sometimes. I always regret the Exu though.
Medics NG/Kal/Reed/Ptil. I only go NG/Ptil if I’m going tank strat though.
I also sometimes go AH squad minus Andre

I know that’s like not what you asked for. But I don’t think anyone is absolutely necessary for a15 by default

Texas/Yato/Mlynar/Ines are easy to go for though in those cases. With the reapers for early floors

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Also, Nightingale?

I don't see much Arts threat in IS#3

Unless I forgot

Except of Territorial Tendencies

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Izumik

There are a couple heavy arts enemies, enough that it’s nice

But yeah traditional medics are a bit weird in is3 same for laneholding & tanking in general

With the central theme of is3 being elemental damage tank breaking

It’s why Izumik is such a hell fight

1000 jellyfish spawning from every angle and if he eats 20 of them his attack is now literally 10k

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Unblockable

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At a15 ofc

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It’s why traditional izumik fights are so difficult

The two cheese strats take specific relics

Weedy Push needs a Weightless in Holo/Angelina while also getting the Shift +2 book

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I heard Fincatcher Shawl is good to avoid stunning attacks from it.

Not from Absorbing explosion though

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Yato solo needs Mind Over Matter + Redeploy Spear + -35% redeploy Spec book

And optionally Metastic but getting a run to the boss with Metastic debuff is hell

And it may turn a one shot into a two shot to kill jellyfish

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Metastatic Yato

What a Rare occasion

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Mind over Matter mandatory to even do damage to the things

It’s enough to beat the stat debuff on Metastic

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It's only -50% stats, right? Not half the stats after all modifiers

Speaking of your Sniper Choice, you don't bring Shotgun Farmers Ch'en?

Since you're attempting 4th Boss

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Don’t have her

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Oh.....

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I get her sometimes on start

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It didn't go well, no?

You have any plans on Sparking next Summer Banner?

Or are you fine of not having it?

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I’m not a big chen fan so don’t really care either which way

Starting from a4 I believe everyone costs +1 hope to recruit

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Yes, that's true

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So I only can do a 6* starter if I did a floor 3+ run & get extra hope

I always take the 3 random tags for a free 4* so it’s random if I get a sniper on top

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Have you encountered D15 Ubi Bona on Emergency?
If you do, how's the experience back then?

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That the one with all the flowers?

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Yes

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Use the unit(s) that deal damage to get rid of the spear dudes at all cost then it’s fine

Doesn’t matter if they’re fast redeploy or not just throw whoever gets hit by Mind Over Matter book at them

As long as those things die the stage is pretty easy

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How do you deal with the Flowers?

Since it'll stun Ops pretty much quickly

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Pick them off slowly & throw things at them

If you have a form of stun it’ll lock in place long enough

Just start doing it early enough that they don’t all start moving

It’s one of the easier late floor stages

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I gonna need more DP to do such

To throw bodies of course

And the Vanguard that i usually pick is Fang

6* Vanguards or Standard Bearers are being skipped

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I don’t even really use vanguards besides Mule/Ines

By the time I reach that kind of stage it isn’t really a problem anymore

I don’t even pick the 3* ones since the 1 hope cost is too steep

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(Well, Ines is there but I wanna spend hope on better stuffs)

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Ines can do a ton of damage on s2

If she gets hit by the book she’s a nuke

She also scales grossly well with attack speed

So if attack speed gets stacked she’s generating a million dp

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More Attack = More DP

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Same for Cante but not as big of a damage dealer

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But yeah, I rather not spend Hope on Vanguards

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I don’t think of them as Vanguards since they do high damage

Mule is more of a sniper than anything

Ines fast redeploy damage dealer with a slow

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Yeah, I can see...

Good Vanguard options are more limited in IS#3 than in IS#2

Or is it just my mindset?

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No Supporters?

Or are your Supporter rosters rather not good?

Actually, I think I'll call it a day now

It's nice to hear your thoughts

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I use Deepcolor

Not many supporters I really want to grab

I have an unleveled Suzuran & I’d get Angelina if I was going Weedy Push

Besides that not many I’d go for

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Ahh...
Aight then

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I used to grab Skadi alt a lot but unless she gets hit by a buff she’s kind of whatever

[hot rampart]

https://youtu.be/UjJkuD68uJE?si=YS-Oqe5FfDTN66W-

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What’s connected to the Exe event

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no clue
probably just exposition and showing the || weapon defense system AI around the end ||

[ebon sphinx]

this image is so hilarious

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I almost thought that this is Half Life 2 Main Menu

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figuring this guy is like assembling a puzzle

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the biggest and only restricting am facing is arts units usage

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If your laneholders die it’s just over

Doing this without some kind of cheese is so demanding

There are 4 lanes you have to hold 24/7 if you do this traditionally

Any of them die = gameover

The almost 0 redeploy yato at least can shred them constantly

I pretty much get the fight now it’s just super difficult to actually be able to do it

Besides Weedy Push any strat generally will involve having to sustain the complete onslaught of enemies

And if you lose formation you lose outright because once it leaks it’ll slowly start feeing Izumik

And the second Izumik gets fed 5 of these things = team wiped

Because it stays invulnerable for a century if you try to do the laneholding route, it’s hellish to actually survive everything

When the jellyfish can randomly become 2 ice exploders that immediately kill the lane

Can’t hold these? Lose

Need consistent damage & sustain on every single one of your holders to properly do any of this

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brawlers are just disgusting

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Mudrock assassinated by 5 dudes

All 5 become brawlers & she just turns to paste

My idea was kind of working at first but eventually they just decided to become the most insane enemies & it broke my formation

Although it makes sense since one of my lanes was held by Specter which is just not good enough for this

Need true aoe of some kind on every laneholder

One of these days I’ll get the 2 redeploy relics with Yato & cheese this dude

Or a shift book on a successful run & push this clown enemy

If you remove Izumik from the equation this just becomes death line simulator

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stat comparsion of both bosses on d15

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You can’t even afford this guy getting to that point is the best part

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casually having 200k hp over skadi with 3 hours immunity time

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If you’re not shifting it into a hole then it max stacking

Is gameover

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Jellyfish low-key dangerous

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casually one shotting your squad through res buff with art damage

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Proven IRL

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And hole shifting just has him max stack super fast to break the invul

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They made sure you needed a super specific setup for it though

Weight 6

Weedy skill 3 is force 3

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patriot but theres 700 of them

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It’s like you’re so confident going into this fight sometimes

Then it just falls apart

Same team 1 leaked emergency double volcano

And the 1 leak was me not paying attention

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bro i thought izumik would not be much harder then knight

knight D15 feels like casual gameplay vs izumik d15

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They threw every single anti mechanic into this

Can’t just stack hp because it takes 9 years to go for blue box

Can’t lanehold without perfect hold relics

And even then you can get hit by the bind dude

Just locking a unit to death

Or 2x freeze bombs

I’m just saying if the game gives me the ability to weedy push or yato solo I’m taking it

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1850 atk with 0.35 hit speed
seems about right

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What Freeze Bomb? That Exploding Ice Spider?

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Yeah

It can spawn red ice spiders

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ya top right gacha have them

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2 of them pop up = laneholder extra dead

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gacha (except the mantas)

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And because it eventually starts spawning the things in quintuplets

Super easy to happen

Yeah the spread is

36 jellyfish that count

4 manta

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What's the least dangerous out of it?

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1 izumik

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I wonder

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And 1000 jellyfish that don’t count

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SY1 is what you want most

art damage dealers can be handled too if you are nging

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It’s actually crazy how hard a none cheese run of this fight is

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ya brute forcing is not an option in this one
and its not even that easy to cheese

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Yeah you still need the instant sp relic pretty much

So you can actually deploy weedy

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or the redeploy relics for yato for the other cheese

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And instantly skill 3 under Holo/Ange weightless

And also some hp still

Because this strat is definitely leaking some early on

Letting all the lanes run free

And he’ll explode the field so you can’t just camp in the meantime

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some use gladiia + phantom to fast feed early wave by pulling them into miz
but ya if you not playing spec/caster its hard to get all of those

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Yato solo is probably the safest one but you can misplay it & lose

I like how sneaky the two trap holes are too

Can definitely say this is 20x harder than just doing a Knight run

Izumik puts Knight to shame

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izumik put the 10 other IS bosses combined to shame

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I gotta wonder if is4 even challenges this difficulty

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i cant imagine

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Even the bear?

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The bear is a joke

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izumik normal mob is a patriot
and he spawn 700 of these

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700 bears???

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Not even a fake number

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maybe under what he actually spawns

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All those jellyfish

Patriot tier

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0/41

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they forgot the 0 next to 41

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700 jellyfish that don’t even count

36 jellyfish that do

It spawns jellyfish in 4 lanes

You need to block them then they turn into a random enemy

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you touch one it become a random unit
usually a unit that you dont want hugging your front line

like a strong ass melee or a spider

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All of the random enemies exist to in some way break a lane

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Can you roll bosses?

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this is the gacha

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Also this looks like EoE ptsd

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Bind / Freeze / Beat to death / Shred def / Stun

Can be any of those

Besides the manta

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except manta

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If Izumik eats 5 jellyfish

It explodes the field

Bypasses invisible

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It goes kaboom, basically.

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And your whole team gets wiped

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arts nuke enough to kill ops through ng s3

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If it eats 4 times

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RIP Deployed Ops

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Bruh there’s only like 4 good options for the player

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Its attack hits 10k

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Yeah and it summons 700 of them tene

So you’re definitely gonna roll a ton that aren’t good

10k attack + it attacks twice with arts*

Nothing survives it

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actually it does 1 phy and 1 art attack
so you fucked both ways

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Keep in mind that this is on Surging Waves/Ascension 15, the hardest IS#3 Difficulty.

@Tenebruh

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There are 3 means you can go about the fight
Fend of 700 jellyfish with a mistake margin of 4

Push it into a hole with a shift strength of 5

Which is only possible with shift book + weedy + weightless

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tbh even on low D this boss gonna put a good fight vs unexpereinced players or people with weaker rostars

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Or stack so much damage & redeploy cuts onto a Yato alt that she can basically instantly come back

And kill Jellyfish before they get blocked

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Le Mind Over Matter Relic

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How is it getting to 10k atk

Hard mode buffs?

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Yes, basically

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When it eats the jellyfish

It gains atk

[strong rampart]

Base stats & bonuses alone only put it at 3120 atk

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But this hard mode goes even deeper than you thought @Tenebruh

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So a15 + max stacks

It hits 9950 or something

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I see

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Enjoy fending off 10K per Hit Boss

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Impossible task

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Nightingale and supporters/casters can still survive the 10k dmg arts nuke with 95+ res, cuts it down to 500 dmg

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if you somehow managed to get the commission stats boost (pretty much impossible but still funny to look at)

[strong rampart]

But still, anything less will die

Lmao

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It hits twice

With each attack

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until it does an auto which is 100% phy and 100% arts

the phy will kill on its own

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Yep

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Its ok just pray for cage dodges

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Hardest fight ever

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literally dodge it

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Dodge Viper when

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A run even getting to izumik isn’t easy

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the only good part is his auto is 1.5 attack range which is short

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But how long do you have before he runs it down

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long enough to have hope only to lose when he does

or at least until one of those spawn from jelly fish and remove your squad from existence

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It's 1,800 Damage

How bad can it be?

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thats his def

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Oh wait

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7217 damage

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I can't read shit

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Yuwen LMAO

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Can’t even leak% gaming cuz 700 little shits

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Yeah they thought of everything

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I think this tops EoE

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Weedy push stat is a funny one though

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EoE you could stall out cuz it killed itself over time, but this….

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It’s weight 6 so you need weedy + instant skill relic so she doesn’t die + angelina or holo

[strong rampart]

Should’ve made it weight 7

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Let it feed on 20 jellyfish then get in position to push

Then you just have to deal with the hoard of jellyfish

But that’s easier to do because then you can death line it

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they released a bunch of overpowered beyond broken relics with this boss

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On blue box camp

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they really knew this boss gonna just beat the shit outta people who do high D

[violet vortex]

I was confident with this but it was misplayed

4 stack cursed attack speed

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18 stack Contract

380% bonus but doesn’t help it survive the arts nuke

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It hit beanstalk

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Lol

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The yato solo isn’t by choice

You gotta run yato alone

So she gets the buff guaranteed

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ya

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Doesn’t matter how much redeploy reduction you have

If she does 1/5th their health

Instead of 1-2 shotting

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i see people talking about doing (triple ending) which is wonder land + knight + izumik

but honestly going into wonderland is optimal in this ending lol

you really need all the power possible

i just lost to him in d0 playing the monthly

he still one shotted my squad

(tried to see if i can tank the feed nukes)

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Nice

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That was your first mistake

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hey i trusted e1 ng

like i trusted e2 ng in D15

[tribal thicket]

Why is this China only reeeeeeeeeeee

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Yeah well, your NG must suck if she didn’t tank the nuke

Mine would

Then she would proceed to die to an auto

[hot rampart]

we all hv the same ng on e1 in IS

aside from pots

[strong rampart]

I would E2 her

So no I do not have the same ng

[hot rampart]

we all do

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And E2 is what lets her survive the nuke in the first place

Need S3

[hot rampart]

just need the game to drop a medic recruit

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Just promote her for free at a safehouse

[hot rampart]

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But also pots are a huge difference even in E1 ng’s tankability

10 res at 4

And 2 res to aura at 5

These give her an extra 30 res total under S3

So my pot6 module NG has 92.5 res more than enough to tank nukes

Until S3 wears off, anyway

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i have her p4 btw

[strong rampart]

P4 you’d be at 87.5 res with module

Under S3

Still enough to tank but she’d be losing like 2/3 of her hp at that point

If maxed

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the others die tho so i lose a lot anywya

[strong rampart]

U must be using snipers/guards

Most Casters&Supporters would also survive

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guards lived
by guards and i mean mlynar and ntrk who have billion hp each anyway

[strong rampart]

Lmao

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most casters and supporters are also worthless without certain relics

or combos

i guess shamare is the only one viable

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Hey now

Viable isn’t the right word

Meta is a better word

Just reroll for the combos

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am not gonna pull some lee mostima suzuran weird shit here i feel like

even tho i have all 3

[strong rampart]

Who said anything about Lee Mosti Suzu

Angelina

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this is one of the combos i was talking about

[strong rampart]

Ur using her anyway with the Weedy cheese

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ange dont need to survive

[strong rampart]

SHE IS BEST GIRL