Arknights

[fluid verge]

idk i enjoyed it

but yea ak songs did raise the bar

[glacial breach]

https://youtu.be/h_6Qxb0Iiuw&t=81

weakest AK edm

drop at 1:35 is so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB68kCGbnAs

think a thousand of the views on this one is from me alone

[fluid verge]

[glacial breach]

https://youtu.be/EmGVfjGs1y8?list=PLCzaUq1nXOT8PgR3EBNyXgch0SVYI9o8d&t=58

on the other end theres super atmospheric stuff

[wanton stratus]

But AK has hypersexualized character design though

[glacial breach]

broca skin

doubt they will pull another Utage incident any time soon tho

feel bad for the bois that will never get a rerun

[wanton stratus]

Like, actually imagine spending thousands of hours and dollars on something like NIKKE. Isn’t it easier to just get a gf at that point

It boggles my mind

[glacial breach]

why pay when the fanart is free

[wanton stratus]

OF-subscriber moment

Or just win at life by accruing ten million power in rise of kingdoms or whatever

[hot rampart]

nikke is a money laundering scheme

jk its probably just coomer moment but this time coom isnt the only thing its good at

i kinda heard the story is uh "decent"

partly why BA is also pretty relevant in JP for its good story and serve similar reasons with nikke but mainly for lolicons

[wanton stratus]

Japan at it as usual

[versed compass]

vivianna knight

[wanton stratus]

Something is sus…

[quaint arch]

Give me a bleach or spoiler tag that picture

[wanton stratus]

Is it better or worse than thornification?

[quaint arch]

It's cursed uncanny for my eyes

[versed compass]

its better

[wanton stratus]

Is that so…

I will await further edits

[hot rampart]

it actually looks good

and thats the frightening part

altho not so surprising when both vivi and pozy is by the same artist Chuzenji

[versed compass]

so thats why their outfit (pozy skin and vivi base) are too similar

no ops to trust farm

mumu event is probably next but silence alter will be max trust

[quaint arch]

Ho'oleyak

Also 5* Heavyshooter that I forgot how to spell the name correctly

[tired gulch]

Melanite

[quaint arch]

Mods for Upcoming CN Patch

[hot rampart]

mudrock module is insane

15% less dmg from blocked enemies

upgrades : more hp heal and gain sp when barrier is broken

[ebon sphinx]

These are all awesome mods

[quaint arch]

More SP, More Speen

🛞

It didn't decrease the shield recharge time, however.

I bet it's 1 SP on LV.2 and 2 SP on LV.3

Can't wait on Bagpipe numbers on Mod Upgrades

(It's probly just +5% more chance and 10% more crit multipliers skeptically, but I'll be amused if it's double of that number)

(Pretty sure it's more relevant for Vanguard Gamers tbf)

(Like Yii Nights)

[violet vortex]

Even getting 1 sp on shield break is pretty big

Especially if she’s also healing more & taking less damage

And they get relevant mod stat buffs too

[hallow garnet]

phew finally done with ch11

and all the H stages

dorothy doing god's work

i love this op so much wow

even daughter got a few moments to shine

and eben ofc

[wanton stratus]

Translation doko?

[bleak mirage]

https://vxtwitter.com/DedpulNINL/status/1718980261973725474?t=scL30lEcu3g1DOWhD5YQJg&s=19

[wanton stratus]

How much sanity does Doc have left here?

Is he gonna

[versed compass]

i like how vulcan get a really shit one

[versed compass]

Mudrock
HP++, ATK++
Gain 1 layer of Shield every 9 seconds (stacks up to 3 layers, gain 1 layer immediately after deployment). Recover HP%++ and SP++ every time a layer of Shield breaks

Penance
HP++, ATK++, DEF++
After deployment, immediately gain Barrier equal to Max HP++. When defeating an enemy, gain Barrier equal to HP%++ (caps at 300% Max HP)

Vulcan
HP++, DEF++
While skill is active, immediately recovers a certain HP%++, recover 4% Max HP every second and gain 25% melee Physical Evasion

Lessing
HP++, ATK++, DEF++
Upon taking damage, ATK +12% > ATK++ for 15 seconds

Bassline
HP++, ATK++
Gain 12 > more++ RES. If there are allies in the surrounding 8 tiles, gain 4 > additional++ RES.

Nearl the Radiant Knight
ATK++, DEF++
After deployment or receiving lethal damage, deal True damage+ to enemies in the 4 adjacent tiles and Stun them for a period of time+. If the last deployed operator is a [Kazimierz] operator, deal an additional hit

Bagpipe
ATK++, DEF++
Every attack has a chance++ to deal damage++ and attack an additional target

[versed compass]

mud archtype got 15% damage redection on base module
bassline (defender nearl clone) get also the 15% damag redection
lessing (new skadi at home) get 15% damage on blocked enemies
nearl and bag get the other module effect (second life for nearl and bonus damage for bag)

[wanton stratus]

Thank you

Can’t wait for the numbers

[versed compass]

you can assume already that mudrock want module 3

or at least 2 if 3 dont boost sp

[wanton stratus]

I’m most curious about Bag’s second module

I’ll find out if it was worth not building her first one

[wanton stratus]

But of course the Z module awaits after that, so it’s never going to be a safe build

[fluid verge]

Blenishine with mudrock mod3 is gonna be so spin2win

[versed compass]

i assume delta will be aimed at weaker but popolar chars

[bleak mirage]

They’ll bang ok?

[next locust]

10000%

[hallow garnet]

no

NO

omg

[glacial breach]

its canon now

[bleak mirage]

Who the hell

[strong rampart]

Bruh

[fluid verge]

Both are dragons

[bleak mirage]

https://vxtwitter.com/kecoadewi/status/1719084142636523907?s=46

For the queen of victoria

[tired sky]

https://tenor.com/view/tohru-dragonmaid-surprised-gif-11932540

[spark oasis]

It's really not worth it over her first module. CHG-Y's base effect is worse than CHG-X to begin with, and in Bagpipe's case it's also boosting her incidental talent.

Rather than the talent that always works, and is the main reason you ever bring Bagpipe to a mission in the first place.

[wanton stratus]

Yeah, the base effect is quite weak compared to some (core casters cough cough) but since it only increases the amount of starting SP for Bagpipe herself I always felt like her second module would make her stronger as a nuker once she is actually deployed

The first module’s base effect is obv better for opening a stage

I mostly use Bag as a nuke though, to clarify

[wanton stratus]

My headcanon

🤝

[bleak mirage]

[next locust]

not headcanon

is facts

[fluid verge]

fun slice of life show

[tired sky]

until someone hits kobayashi

https://tenor.com/view/thoru-kobayashi-san-kobayashi-san-chi-no-maid-dragon-s-tohru-mad-gif-22444099

[fluid verge]

need a new season soon

inject that dragon maid into my veins

[hot rampart]

he gonna have a cup of tea over there

[tropic creek]

When's the next limited banner

[hot rampart]

7th november

lone trail

[quaint arch]

Hey there, DragonFollower.

It's been a while

[wanton stratus]

Dragoncraft simps smh my head

[tropic creek]

so what

[ebon sphinx]

https://vxtwitter.com/nambarimasu/status/1719037240696013297?t=nfd414yo1BStML2Opd1y2g&s=19

[tired gulch]

It recently hit me that Chuzenji is now into dressing up dolls

[ebon sphinx]

you misunderstand, she just accelerates their own self inflicted ruin

hmm, theres some horny posting over the 4th anni splash art

https://vxtwitter.com/ArknightsEN/status/1719278032291020886?t=VGm3CcvgWOHBXp952oVufw&s=19 oh no no

[hot rampart]

fruit pizza what

[ebon sphinx]

just google it and you'd find enough examples to make an Italian see red within seconds

https://vxtwitter.com/ArknightsEN/status/1719293138635043275

[ebon sphinx]

https://vxtwitter.com/ariatacet/status/1719145056441893059?t=1Wi8DBqfvOLOPpTGZ2YQkA&s=19

[hot rampart]

https://vxtwitter.com/paopp9961/status/1719297717514784800

[fluid verge]

Would

[ebon sphinx]

😔 i found that i do not enjoy when people get heavily too...into discussing the lore and story so i guess i am taking refuge in places like here and stuff

people can get pretty overzealous

[hot rampart]

did they go like ☝️🤓 or something

[ebon sphinx]

nah, i simply dont feel like listening to their rant about how they hate x character or about criminals and stuff, i also tend to tune out when that stuff happens here

[hot rampart]

understandable

its gonna be real shaky with arturia releasing soon

[ebon sphinx]

its one thing to just politely ask somebody who doesnt share the same opinion or taste as me to not talk about it or bring it up ever again during a private convo and its another to just end up listening to shitty things in public talk spaces with not much control...

[glacial breach]

I can fix her

or she can fix me

either works

[tired sky]

either you fix her or she breaks you

whichever comes first

[versed compass]

both

[fluid verge]

she doesnt need to be fixed

[violet vortex]

Too mediocre to want to fix

[next locust]

lmao

unrelated does anyone got a suzuran s2

i can borrow

ty

[hallow garnet]

still need?

i put her up in case you do

[next locust]

ye ty

[quaint arch]

@ Acer, is that it?

Nothing groundbreaking?

[hot rampart]

whats the point of mention if u are gonna use it like that

or well

not using mention at all

[quaint arch]

[tropic creek]

they are a dragon main

we don't use logic

only ung abunga

[ebon sphinx]

anyway from the looks of it, ||Arturia's profile is an actual criminal record, she's only allowed in certain areas + the psych ward and is figuratively leashed to Federico/Executor||

so, no dindu nuffin here

[hot rampart]

her arts is just really dangerous but she seems to not use it indiscriminately

[quaint arch]

We are.
Just like the current hottest Derg Deck in Rotation.

[next locust]

just got around to watching the pv

they really didnt have to put the lingering echoes ost in it

[hot rampart]

|| https://youtu.be/-07I_nyaQaA?si=BHxE97caEZJgIdws ||

[tired sky]

oh jesus christ

[ebon sphinx]

https://vxtwitter.com/SihZari/status/1719602730975764661?t=C5Km5IegBGShf3MGoh_fUQ&s=19 yes pls dont

[hot rampart]

[ebon sphinx]

at least the silver lining is that everyone would try to beat her up the moment she tries something funny

[tired sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekZ6UAwTfLY

[hot rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/piano-piano-on-fire-man-playing-piano-fire-gif-18619744

[tired gulch]

Welp. The Laterano community after the limited event is now shook to the core

[ebon sphinx]

as far as i know ||she's arrested and in time would be put to trial in Laterano but is there something im missing?||

[hot rampart]

|| she meet the pope at rhodes island in her operator records ||

[fluid verge]

CN account is so cursed 😭

Never lucky

[ebon sphinx]

am i to guess that this is actually an arrangement from them?

[ebon sphinx]

sussy

[hot rampart]

take this as it is with no context

[ebon sphinx]

[hot rampart]

just a lil bit of context maybe

[ebon sphinx]

||The Lateran Pope is also the "Saint" of the nation, a title first held by only the founders of Laterano. To the Laterans, the Saints are regarded as the genuine leaders of Laterano whose wisdom will guide the nations and preserve it from any disaster. For millennia, only the Popes were allowed to carry the title of the Saints, but Federico Giallo is the first non-Papal candidate to ever hold such official title under the proclamation of the current Pope.||

i am gonna need to like read all this when the time comes

whats notable is uh ||Executor as a Saint is allowed to point and shoot at another Sankta and not fall|| so I wonder if it referred to ||a special right to subvert the Sankta law if needed||

[wanton stratus]

So are the actual numbers for modules available now that the event is out on CN?

[hot rampart]

mudrock gets 2 sp on lvl 3

[fluid verge]

My god that's comfy

[ebon sphinx]

anyway, about the new event story and stuff ||from the looks of it, being declared a Saint means that the Sankta Law supercomputer requires that person for some big and huge plan. It's apparently not related to morality or anything and i think Arturia didn't see that coming either||

||that's kind of worrying if the Law is doing that||

[hot rampart]

|| the Law is just an old weapon defense system left by the ancient civilizations anyway so whatever it cooking definitely not something moral ||

[tired sky]

nearl getting that module is pretty big

same for bagpipe, should make her a much better early holder

[hot rampart]

the module is made for s3

https://fxtwitter.com/alchehehe/status/1719638337248788946?s=46&t=ZVi56J2EMvxrIdueQId6SA

alche spooked by his daughter

[hot rampart]

|| https://vxtwitter.com/SihZari/status/1719629121955979653?t=A5FvijLzdN3coapSiJ1Lnw&s=19 ||

|| https://vxtwitter.com/SihZari/status/1719724153694290301?t=IFHb3XhDUMYD-7SP4onYsQ&s=19 ||

[glacial breach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_6U-47rvY4

another banger

the other battle theme is pretty unique

[hot rampart]

the drop around 1:05 is fire

[next locust]

classical music

[tired sky]

https://tenor.com/view/piano-piano-on-fire-man-playing-piano-fire-gif-18619744

[glacial breach]

2:26

cellos are so underrated

[vague sail]

https://fxtwitter.com/NoContextArkn/status/1719677659729596475

@glacial breach

[tired gulch]

https://vxtwitter.com/No_grad/status/1719402842564514029?t=bEsEv9gy5SGlr6PrvXPfKw&s=19

[next locust]

@hallow garnet u can switch off suzu if u want i got the clear i needed

thank

[hallow garnet]

good good

[versed compass]

tfw i get scared when i heard the leak sound in h12-1

only to realize it was one of the drones the boss summon

[tired sky]

Man

So vivianna is mid.

first Hool

then vivi

...at least they didnt make swire alter mid

[vague sail]

I think calling hool mid is kind of a compliment

[tired sky]

shes mid-low

vivi seems to be mid-mid

arts guard but doesnt have any shred in her kit

so the moment enemies with res appear her damage disappears

arturia on the other hand looks legit

shes particularly interesting right now because while enemies have the Elemental damage resistance stat, all of the current ingame enemies have it as 0(because it was never really used)

so right now shes fully effective against literally everything

[glacial breach]

https://youtu.be/ktOIdu7XaLY?t=86

character theme out

[slate stratus]

man

i only got virtuos

[tired sky]

thats fine, viviana is perma and shes incredibly Mid unfortunately

actual "Only raise if shes waifu" tier

[slate stratus]

she has german VA so i want her

gotta hear how she sound

[tired sky]

you'll get her eventually

[slate stratus]

lmao ur understimating my luck

this acc has no texas alter

i have dogshit luck

tho on global i have pot 6 texussy

didnt whaled

after ines we get giga chad executor?

[tired sky]

should be yes

wait no

i think mumu is next

THEN executor

yeah

[slate stratus]

ur sure?

wasnt mumu after?

[tired sky]

Mumu > executor > typhon > eyja alter

[slate stratus]

oh i see

[slate stratus]

ejya alter is the easiest skip of my life

Lmao

[tired sky]

shes limited and swire is waifu

so i pull regardless

[slate stratus]

i skip

lmao

3 banner in a row i wanna pull on

damnnnnnn

[tired sky]

also unlike Hool and viviana, swire wasnt done dirty

shes actually solid

[slate stratus]

i need to get mumu

exe alter

typhon is op

cant wait to get exe

[tired sky]

in terms of waifu for me swire > hool > rest
in terms of meta Typhon > mumu > swire/executor > eyja alter >>>>>>>>>>>>> a 3 star >>>>>>>>>> hool

[slate stratus]

once i get mumu ill stop pull on the banner

[tired sky]

to me at least

[slate stratus]

hool sucks balls

the only good thing about her is the VA

[tired sky]

good character, terrible kit

same as viviana

[slate stratus]

whats so awful about viviana

[tired sky]

arts guard that can't hold lane and has no res shred

[slate stratus]

also arturia should be good cuz all enemy have 0 elemental damage resist lmao

[tired sky]

the moment anything with res appears her damage disappears

since her physical attack b uff isnt particularly strong

her s3 gives her triple hit but the attack interval increase makes it more of a 1.5 hit

[slate stratus]

so nearl alter still the queen

[tired sky]

its also not permanent unlike thorns'

[slate stratus]

also im skipping the skins on this acc but on global ill defo get texas skin

and maybe uncle skin too tho i dont have him in global

angelina italian dub when

EXUSAI LATIN DUB

BROO

vivana theme reminds me of ibo ost

nvm itys not viviana them

its the boss theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_6U-47rvY4&ab_channel=RiverV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDF2uTzkCKY&ab_channel=MasaruYokoyama-Topic

also executor and arturia are blood related?

[next locust]

they're like

cousins

iirc

[slate stratus]

man

also didnt arturia did some fucked up shit?

[next locust]

she's fallen

uh

used her arts to induce suicide

kinda fucked up

idr if she was a part of the fuckery that was lingering echoes

[slate stratus]

wtf

[next locust]

she also does some fucked up shit in this event as well

[slate stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gooznKMSZMM&ab_channel=DragonGJY

he looks great

also ejya alter is mulberry archetype? if yes i might pull actually

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ_dcJ7PUII&ab_channel=DragonGJY

[quaint arch]

EBENSWEEP

[quaint arch]

1 Base Attack per 1.25 Sec
S3 3 Attack per 1.25 + 0.5 Sec

"Actually 🤓 "

[slate stratus]

wtf eben looksgood now

[quaint arch]

You don't believe enough.

But anyway, HG tried again and it worked somehow.

If you haven't get Mod for EBEN, you can save for this instead

[versed compass]

eben gonna be simping arturia to be viable

[wanton stratus]

Bagpipe numbers are a bit disappointing

[quaint arch]

Hey, at least the chance is increased from 1/4 to 1/3 chance

[wanton stratus]

Oh, it’s not counting the talent increase from pot3

So it’s 36% chance at mod3 for me then

[valid schooner]

Evil arturia like:she good

[ebon sphinx]

https://vxtwitter.com/Gaemms_Chamois/status/1719678589732286828?t=7aSSWX8BKVkU-_kjTpjeTw&s=19

Sankta barracks must be pretty bright when you think about it

[fluid verge]

i want that

i need that

[tribal thicket]

Bagpipe new mod looks

Yea no i prefer my helidrop s3

[wanton stratus]

Mod3 for 4 extra SP though

Hardly a worthy trade

[tribal thicket]

Its worth

Trust

[wanton stratus]

I’ll build the second module and patiently wait for the third

[ebon sphinx]

https://vxtwitter.com/Pot_Apis/status/1719616931261743581?t=AZBZ8LUfN8nBIoeIyRZOTw&s=19 the last part is the most horrifying

[tired gulch]

breathes

[hot rampart]

is this hell stage 1

ok it is

u will like the other ones

[tired gulch]

It is indeed hell.

[hot rampart]

find a way to kill those drones first and another 2 that will spawn later

the ground spawns is nothing burger until around last remaining ones

[tired gulch]

Gotta kill them SOMEHOW indeed

Maybe I should field Rosa

Wait. No. The starting limit's 20!

Damn.

[hot rampart]

Schwarz pozy

[tired sky]

she IS viable

[hot rampart]

mlynar and SA

[tired sky]

good even

but it'll depend if the devs start adding elemental resistance to shit from now on or not

and how much

[hot rampart]

arturia is viable but he talking about eben viability

[tired sky]

eben has always been viable wdym

did you miss him one shotting bosses like it was nobody's business?

his 3rd module is even better

[hot rampart]

yeah 1 shotting boss with like all the buff he can get his hands on

[tired sky]

i mean, mlynar and surtr couldnt do what he did because said bosses were multi phases

[hot rampart]

3rd module definitely help his total single target dmg for sure

[tired sky]

and their s3s ran out before they could keep going

so he had a place

[tired gulch]

...I think I botched my approach here.

[tribal thicket]

Anyone know if Shark is pity-able in the new CN banner?
Ping me pls, I don't check here often

[ebon sphinx]

...whos Shark

[tribal thicket]

[ebon sphinx]

oh, it depends if shes on the banner to begin with. If yes, then yes

[hot rampart]

yes spalter is pity able in arturia/vivi banner

she also on "spook rateup"

[tribal thicket]

noice

then I can skip Lonetrail and roll on that instead

[tidal hawk]

Do people use mumu on regular basis?

[hot rampart]

no

[ebon sphinx]

its difficult to beat Flagpipe

so i am rolling for personal reasons

generally i advocate doing that in gacha

roll for what makes you happy

[hot rampart]

some may say the act of rolling gacha is the happiness

[ebon sphinx]

thats gambling addiction and....in general they have made the act and animation of rolling gacha to be an art form in itself such that they generate dopamine when you roll good

[hot rampart]

now i understand boomers who likes to go to those scratch a number lottery thing

[tough matrix]

man, I need LMD

[quaint arch]

Same + Red Certs and Crafting Mats

But no, I can't do it cuz 1-7 Lead Mines

[tidal hawk]

Not even Ines?

[ebon sphinx]

weeell Ines becomes even better with Bagpipe but for pure DP gen...

[hot rampart]

ines dp gen isnt reliable due to circumstances

but higher difficulty stuff kinda guarantees the stuff spawn is tanky enough for her to gen dp from

[tough matrix]

finally

[tidal hawk]

Man I just watched KyostinV Virtuosa pulls, it was sadly hilarious

Especially that triple viviana

[ebon sphinx]

||https://vxtwitter.com/lingtranslates/status/1720029700268109845?t=qeiykR89cJOSDugp5Sd3-w&s=19|| hahahaha

[quaint arch]

I love it

[tribal thicket]

Arturia is my waifu now

[quaint arch]

You're ending the friendship with Siege?
I thought you're a Saber fan

[tribal thicket]

Until they release Siege Alter

[ebon sphinx]

its inevitable really, but...its a matter of when would they finish Victoria arc considering the number of operators and stories set after it

[quaint arch]

some guardian died there btw

[versed compass]

am saying eben is the one who gonna need her to be viable

i know she is good
am jus tsaying he need her so he can be good

[tired sky]

blasphemy, eben is already good

[versed compass]

oh ya glory pack eben best stunner

[versed compass]

flag pipe is best for pure dp generating
ines is just more useful past the first min

[hallow garnet]

oh viviana is bad?

-_-

i mean ofc she is

who tf needed an arts guard

she should have been some candle boom boom thing

[hallow garnet]

shes not fallen

fallen sankta have horns like mostima

arturia just turned black cuz she killed

you only become fallen if you kill another sankta

killing anybody else is fair game

😄

[next locust]

there's a distinction

huh

til

[hallow garnet]

yeah

tho idk if they have a specific term for black-winged sankta

[next locust]

[hallow garnet]

probably not sicne nothing really changes

besides the color swap

they retain all the general sankta traits

and the connection to the Law as well

unlike the fallen

who partially revert back into sarkaz

[tired sky]

unfortunately shes impressively...mid

[hallow garnet]

gimme comparison

like chongus type "mid"?

cuz im fine with that

[tired sky]

thorns does her job better.

[hallow garnet]

ugh

rip

[next locust]

she doesnt have res shred in her kit

[hallow garnet]

she doesnt rlly have anything exciting about her tbh

thats my biggest gripe

she seemed so outdated

[next locust]

she gets nightcaps on her horns when she sleeps

[hallow garnet]

kitwise

[next locust]

so im pulling anyways

[hallow garnet]

i mean im pulling cuz i collect all limited so i need arturia

[tired sky]

her steroid is timed unlike thorns which becomes perma, she has less range than him, and the attack% steroid is lower too, so she can't fall back on normal atk value like thorns does if enemies have slightly higher res

its still a pull banner because of arturia tho

[next locust]

what limiteds are we getting before then

[tired sky]

mumu next

then eyja alter

[next locust]

is executor a non-limited

[tired sky]

perma yes

[next locust]

[tired sky]

only limiteds before then are mumu and eyja alter

typhon, executor and jessica alter are all perma

as well as whats his name

hoederer

[next locust]

not too much i really want to pull for before viviana

[tired sky]

we had more limiteds in a small amount of time recently because of the MH collab in between

[next locust]

i can finally start levelling one of my 20+ not levelled 6*

[tired sky]

Mumu is a must pull for any dorothy enjoyers

mumu and dorothy are a fun duo

lots of bind

[next locust]

ill pull for a mumu

dont rlly care about snek

[tired sky]

same, i like hool's character but her kit is ass so i wouldnt raise her anytime soon anyways

not in a hurry for her

[next locust]

i mainly pull for design

and ho'ol doesnt do it 4 me

[tired sky]

my priority is limited > waifus > gameplay > rest

[next locust]

people who pull for gameplay

[tired sky]

limiteds are only above waifus because theyre fuckin stupid to get after the initial banner

[next locust]

are mega dentge

[versed compass]

24 pulls for me
who comes comes

[tired sky]

and i'd rather avoid it, having to roll for a missed limited in a future banner that is

[versed compass]

my pulls is waifu > rest

[next locust]

6 mumus

i believe in ur pulls

[tired sky]

technically 1 mumu is 6 mumus because of her clones

[versed compass]

its still 1 mumu cause am not doing her e2 for a while probably

[next locust]

man i wish i could see

what lv2 and lv3 modules do

in game

[versed compass]

i wish we had enough module blocks

i just bought the red cert ones now and out already

SSS is so fucking worthless

[hallow garnet]

eeegh

fk them

[tired sky]

seeing hool and viviana done dirty like that makes me happy that they didnt fuck up swire alter

[hallow garnet]

but i dont enjoy dorothy for the bind, i enjoy her for the mass destruction

[tired sky]

at least my top waifu still good

[hallow garnet]

swire alter seems mid to me too

shes like lee but worse

or at least i dont see her use

[hot rampart]

swire alter is mid as hell what are u smokin

[hallow garnet]

and the cheat death part is just specter done badly

plus eats all ur dp

she looks hot tho i give her dat but other than that i dont see any value to her

[hot rampart]

vivi > hool > swirealt
as it stands currently in gameplay

[hallow garnet]

hool at least has dorothy synergy

[tired sky]

-2 dp every few seconds is hardly eating all ur dp.

[plain vessel]

I thought hool was absolute dogshit tho

[tired sky]

if -2 dp every few seconds is giving you trouble you have other issues

[plain vessel]

[hot rampart]

have u played ch 12

[tired sky]

yes ?

[hallow garnet]

i didnt mean the merchant passive. i meant her cheat death part. shes fragile af and if she receives lethal dmg she eats 5 dp then 10 then 20 then 40 then 80 and so on

[versed compass]

thorns have horrible time to get the perma tbh
i think viv is gonan be mid but still better then thorns

[tired sky]

lmao no

[hot rampart]

she is weak but unusable like vigil

[tired sky]

0 fuckin chance shes better than thorns

[versed compass]

thorns is more of compared to other perma skills
and he falling off a cliff nowaday

[hot rampart]

also i cant believe this

thorns in 2023?

[tired sky]

thorns can still be used in 99% of the maps safely

[versed compass]

i legit think thorns is below blaze nowaday

[hallow garnet]

viviana in 2023 with a kit from 2021

[versed compass]

he cant

[tired sky]

he can.

[hallow garnet]

thorns is fine

[versed compass]

if by 99% of maps you mean story in op can be used there safely

[plain vessel]

I still use Thorns a decent amount

[hallow garnet]

idk what yall smoking

what "map" are we talking about even

[plain vessel]

definitely not because I turn off my brain and just follow afk strats

[versed compass]

IS3 thorn went horrible for me for example
he was pretty underwhelming in story to me too

[hallow garnet]

he was never a high risk carry

[tired sky]

my brother in christ arknights is a game people clear with 3-4 stars and a single 6 star and youre trying to tell me thorns isnt good ?

thats some meta-slave talk

[hot rampart]

thorns is mid

[hallow garnet]

we are talking powerlevel, so we are talking meta so metaslaving is warranted

[tired sky]

"ackshually, thorns has .313% less dps than x so hes not viable anymore tilts glasses"

[hot rampart]

this tbh

[versed compass]

any 6* is good if you look at the game taht way
am talking more compared to other 6*

[hallow garnet]

dont misunderstand, nobody is telling anybody to NOT play X op

[tired sky]

@hallow garnet then dont tell me he can't be used in stages

because he most certainly can

[versed compass]

like legit vigil the op people shit on can be used in 99% of stages

[hallow garnet]

anybody can

[tired sky]

saying he can't be used safely in most maps is a flat out lie

[hallow garnet]

in story

i think they meant high risk cc

or something

that requires meta

[versed compass]

i said anybody can in story if thats what 99% you mean

[hallow garnet]

nothing else really does

[tired sky]

high risk cc is irrelevant, it gives absolutely nothing and is just there for bragging rights

[versed compass]

am talking about impact

and thorn impact is underwhelming

[tired sky]

mostima was key for last high risk cc, does that make her better than thorns in general? fuck no

[hot rampart]

bragging rights is important

anyway

[hallow garnet]

so how do we even define meta then

[tired sky]

it really isnt, not in a gacha lmao

[hallow garnet]

if high risk cc is "irrelevant"

and story can be cleared with anybody

[hot rampart]

high risk cc isnt the only thing that exist

[hallow garnet]

[hot rampart]

is3 and is4

[versed compass]

mostima is actually niche good nowa days
and can be used in any stage if you bothered

[tired sky]

imagine bragging about a gacha

[hallow garnet]

mostima is still shit to me

her sp cost is too fking high

[hot rampart]

there is also is3 and is4 higher Difficulties now and u can argue higher diff gives u more clear points

[hallow garnet]

so

the current "meta" revolves around is3/4?

[versed compass]

even in low diffeculty he kinda pretty ass

[hallow garnet]

just wanna know what we base "meta" on

if thats the case then i kinda second the thorns thing

i never rlly wanna pick him up in is3

[versed compass]

i base it on everything
story/ex stages is depending on solo impact (or combo impact i guess for stuff like suzu)
and IS and other hard events

[hallow garnet]

despite him being my fave husbando

[versed compass]

thorns charge time is ass

[hallow garnet]

put thorns with feist

profit

cuz dot charges turret fast

😄

[versed compass]

i think for conisstence dps mizuki/horn/blaze/typhon s2/chungus are better

will blaze post module

[hallow garnet]

out of these only ONE can hit air tho

[versed compass]

thorns will be busy with a defender before hitting air

its very irrelevant most of the time

[tired sky]

no, it isnt? why are you just calling th eparts you dont care about irrelevant

[hot rampart]

is3 air stuff should be dealt with kroos alter or sexas anyway

[tired sky]

thorns hitting air is important

[hallow garnet]

what useless says is that he wont be hitting air

cuz hes busy hitting ground

[tired sky]

he also called it irrelevant before noticing he said something stupid and edited it

to say most of the time

[hallow garnet]

okay okay

[versed compass]

am saying its irrelevant cause most of the time there wont be air
or he will be busy with ground since st dps

typhon probably can handle air effectvly cause of duel target

[hallow garnet]

no need to get nasty

we are taking this a tad bit far

[versed compass]

but thorns only work in certain maps better

[hallow garnet]

lets just stay calm

[versed compass]

which make him lower then others like chungus

[hot rampart]

thorns take too much time to get up

also

the catapults cunts

[hallow garnet]

nobody is saying thorns is shit never use him, they are giving their own experiences and thoughts

everybody feel free to use whatever they want

but i asked abt meta purposes so i appreciate the honesty even if hearing thorns mid is sad

cuz hes useful in a ton of afk stuff and whatnot

but thats not the topic rn

[tired sky]

he isnt, still one of the better guards

[versed compass]

nah not even close

unless you compare him with lower rarity

[hallow garnet]

context ppl, context

if u throw out a claim, contextualize

thorns is great for afk clears, trustfarm and whatnot

hes not that great for is3

[hot rampart]

yes

[hallow garnet]

context is important ppl

so we can keep da peace

[tired sky]

go on and drop your mlynar early, he wont block anything and wont have his skill charged, meanwhile thorns is a relatively early drop with a self regen that can block early enemies, charge on them and by the time the really tough stuff comes out, his s3 is usually activated twice and hes already safe behind the tanks giving you free damage from an incredible safe distance

hes is a very good general purpose guard

[hallow garnet]

drop mlynar early and drop whatever non-flag vg in front of him who can hold for a bit

mlynar charges fast

[tired sky]

and if you say otherwise, youre absolutely insane

[hot rampart]

no need to bring mlynar into this

[hallow garnet]

also mlynar and throns dont even have the same role

thorns is a consistent laneholder

mlynar is a sweeper

on paper at least

[hot rampart]

mlynar aggros the catapult cunts and any other shit and actually lets ur thorns not get fucked by the catapult cancers

[hallow garnet]

so the comparison doesnt rlly work

[tired sky]

sure we can bring blaze, tankier and better at holding specific lanes, but less range and also has a charge time

[hallow garnet]

just

bring mountain

[versed compass]

leaving new guards out from cn side
would say guards go mlnyar > surtr > nearl > mountain > gavial > chungus > ah skadi > silver ash = QB > blaze = thorns (blaze above if module) > pallas >skadi > hellagur

i feel i forgot someone but whatever

[hot rampart]

i still think saying thorns > viviana unwarranted tho which is what this whole argument startee with

[hallow garnet]

poor helladad

[versed compass]

go on and drop thorn on chap 7 defender and watch him being stuck for 3 years

this is a stupid comparsion and you know it
cause with that shitty logic mlynar is worse then a humus

[versed compass]

mf kit is killing it self sadly

[tired sky]

so youve learned context, whew, glad my silly example taught you something

[hallow garnet]

be nice guys

[tired sky]

turns out, thorns is better than a lot of guards in a lot of di fferent scenario

[hallow garnet]

no need to throw hands

[tired sky]

dropping surtr against generic mobs is a waste, much like thorns wont do much against super tanky guys like you said

[hot rampart]

he is not exactly better

just easier to use more like

[versed compass]

you just put a stupid comparsion to proof a non existence point

like wow surtr is bad vs air

ranger is better

[tired sky]

"Wow thorns is bad versus defender"

-you

[hot rampart]

thorns only good point is activating his skill twice and u can forget about him

[tired sky]

imagine calling me on something you did yourself

hilarious

[versed compass]

thorns gonna deal with all enemies since he good in 99% of cases right?

[hot rampart]

any other guards will do damage better than him

[versed compass]

he is a general op so he deal with everything

[hot rampart]

aside from hellabad

[versed compass]

or you using him vs trash purely?

[hot rampart]

and pallas and skadi

[versed compass]

then fucking use mountain

[tired sky]

thorns is great because early he can deal with the weaker enemies and later his s3 activated twice lets him be a supportdps that can safely attack from range and supplement your dps

[versed compass]

then use thorn to handle that 1 drone stage

[hot rampart]

for afk purposes

chong does a better job

[versed compass]

yes

[hot rampart]

without the anti air

[versed compass]

chungus dps is insane

underrated op

[tired sky]

depends

on holding a single lane?

yes

thorns can often help on more lanes than a single one

[versed compass]

chungus have good range

[tired sky]

because of his stu pid range

[versed compass]

he can hold 3 lanes lol

[hot rampart]

the anti air meanwhile can be make up for it with any other classes or well mlynar ,SA and qb can sweep drones just fine

thorns job is a role compression that does a lot of things but master of none

[hallow garnet]

chongus can hold very well in an intersection

cuz of the cross range

and hold from behind too

from range

[versed compass]

chungus also does good nukes while setting up

only issue is 1 block

but its worth it

[hallow garnet]

which can be salvaged by placing the initial vg behind him

[hot rampart]

u putting him behind a defendee likeu would thorns so

[hallow garnet]

thats why i kinda like saga with chongus

[tired sky]

destreza range vs anatta's range

anatta's range is awkward as hell

there are definitely some layouts where it shines

[versed compass]

it is not tbh

[hallow garnet]

i doubted it too

[versed compass]

you dont need to abuse all 8 tiles

[hallow garnet]

but it works

[tired sky]

but it more often than not will only hit his own lane

[versed compass]

pretty often he cover 2 or 3 lanes

by normal placement

[hot rampart]

it is not awkward at all

[versed compass]

i litirelly never had him cover 1 lane unless the map had only 1 lane to start with

[hot rampart]

both thorns and chong range is good obviously

[versed compass]

both also take a while to charge
but chungus reword is higher

so i value chungus over thorn

with or without skalter

did not try him with skalter personally

[tropic creek]

just texalter everything

[versed compass]

but look pretty bonkers with skalter

[tropic creek]

[versed compass]

i yato alter everything nowa days

[versed compass]

anyway for new guards i probably putting Executer around nearl/heo am not sure
lessing probably around non ah skadi/viv am not sure but probably in middle or below middle

[plain vessel]

Guard nearl is good?

[versed compass]

guard nearl is amazing

[plain vessel]

I mean okay I knew she was good but I didn't know she was considered to be that good

[versed compass]

i mean this is pure guard ranking

of course if you rank other classes she will be lower but 3rd in guard is a good spot for her

[hot rampart]

not eating redeployment slot with s2 is bonkers

[versed compass]

but nearl her self had solid good shit to offer
good def ignore and damage with s2 and no deploy slot + shields
or true damage on s3 when needed is also pretty strong

[plain vessel]

I guess so

Well my concept of AK meta is skewed as hell so I don't have much of a right to comment

[versed compass]

heck her s1 is actually good its just her other skill are more good

[plain vessel]

Just use Texalter and Kirito easy

[versed compass]

i mean i would rank both above nearl

but they dont have guard symbol

[plain vessel]

They're just guards with the fast redeploy tag

[hot rampart]

also i think hool image is damaged beyond repair just becuz caster bad and le worse eyja

can be applied to every caster currently even after eben mod 3

[plain vessel]

Eyja healer is uhh

I mean she's a good healer right

But like that's it

[versed compass]

eyja >= gg > the rest is caster ranking

[hot rampart]

eyja and lin is up there

[plain vessel]

Actually idk how good Eyja healer is

[hot rampart]

i wouldn't say gg is good

[plain vessel]

[next locust]

cleansing elemental damage is always good

in my book

[versed compass]

some casters try to be become supporters instead nowa days
lin/mostima

[hot rampart]

i mean that good

lin is high ground defender

[versed compass]

same shit

how is the whole class out classed by a fucking medic in their job

[plain vessel]

Kay is better than Eyja ||in pure ST||

[hot rampart]

its useful no cap she can tank the drones summoner (not red version she cant tank those)

[versed compass]

so useful

granted IS3 uses lin mostima

cause arts is shit so you gotta go with those

[hot rampart]

mostima as budget suzuran

[plain vessel]

Mostima has the most potent slow tho

[versed compass]

if not for the insane res buffs GG would be really good in high D
but nope enjoy fucking 20 res buff

[plain vessel]

[next locust]

just bring res shred

like

like

[versed compass]

she is the ng of elem damage

[next locust]

idk what has res shred

actually

[hot rampart]

also hool isnt that bad

i would say she is passenger post module tier

[plain vessel]

I c

[versed compass]

pass is pretty bad post module tier
people just happy he is not 5* op anymore

[hot rampart]

she doesnt even need elem dmg presence to be good

her infinite duration skill HPS is as high as lumen

[versed compass]

lumen is actually the low one here

pretty sure even shining s2 beat that

also quercus post module kinda match him

[hot rampart]

i mean u compared him to one of the highest one

[versed compass]

i should have mastered shining instead of raising lumen

[hot rampart]

and eyja infinite duration skill is actually comparable to those

[versed compass]

ya its good for afk proposes

but her main shit will be the elem damage negating

cant wait for them to never release elem damage again

[hot rampart]

exactly why they make her HPS numbers so good so that it isnt a problem

[versed compass]

[tired sky]

thats true but suzuran brings a very potent fragile which is why i'd use her over mostima most of the time

also shes our light.

and she has a billion skins

[versed compass]

ya between the 2 suzu is better

mostima is mostly either a secondery slower to cycle after suzu or if you cant pick suzu for reasons

or you trying to cheese stall an invis/immune enemy

[hot rampart]

or stall some lightweight enemies

[plain vessel]

I meant that comment in the sense that

They have different functions

[versed compass]

i forgot the push even existed

[plain vessel]

Mostima is mostly used for stalling

[hot rampart]

u will like it for is3 4th endings mobs

[versed compass]

nah they are same functions

[plain vessel]

Suzuran is used also for the damage

[versed compass]

its just suzuran do extra thing

[tired sky]

i feel like suzuran's s3 also fills in the stall part, but the extra benefits(the added dps from fragile and the healing) make her better unless the slow is THAT important

[plain vessel]

My perception of Mostima use cases really is just

Stally strats

While Suzuran is just good

[tired sky]

i.e. last cc where fragile and healing were both useless because red weeb would one shot anyone anyways and you couldnt hit him during the 20 second invul window, which is when you wanted to stall

in that case mostima was queen among queens

|| until the 20 second window was over then it was back to push/pull booli ||

[plain vessel]

||tbf Mostima passive slow helped a bit||

[tired sky]

major disrespect playing ping pong with the boss like that

[hot rampart]

he deserve it

just like he did in cc beta

[tired sky]

he'll be back again

and next time they'll add a weight risk to him i bet

[hot rampart]

+2 weight risk

[versed compass]

cant wait for pinch out red with 4 million hp and weight 7

[hot rampart]

pinch out is dead we back to cc fr no cap

[versed compass]

it uses pinch out system

[hot rampart]

CC season 2 baybeee

[hot rampart]

i mean uh pinch out is just CC but badge idk

[versed compass]

will now its the main CC

prepare your self for CC R6 event with infinite hp essence of evo

[hot rampart]

the only thing i hate about CC is just the daily maps

some days i just couldnt feel ass to play the map

[versed compass]

honestly the only part i cared about in CC

[hot rampart]

like just let it be like trial navigators where u can just do all the map on last day

[tired sky]

CC-Annihilation mix

where it annihilates your phone

[hot rampart]

no like it's okay but i just hate how time gated it feels like

[versed compass]

new risk : boss starts at phase 3 with no self drain

[hot rampart]

spawns 3x as much

[versed compass]

ya i agree X3 essences
each with different path to blue box

[hot rampart]

the cc theme should reuse pyrite theme

[tired gulch]

This just in. Monsoon's self-bisecting body got remodeled to this

https://youtu.be/3QjXuGLoG2I?si=bggZam46dx3Q0SyN

[hot rampart]

or the im on fire one

[versed compass]

pick a relic in wish
roll 1
reroll 1

[tired sky]

and they set every tile they pass through on fire

[hot rampart]

skill issue

[tired sky]

and theres a risk that makes the fire permanent so you can't extinguish it

[versed compass]

ok who do i open with here

or should i try hard

[hot rampart]

what asc

[versed compass]

15

[hot rampart]

mizuki

[tired sky]

Weedy because shes the cutest

[hot rampart]

do weedy last long enough for her to charge her s2

[versed compass]

alright not sniper squad
i might survive this

[hot rampart]

or u just use her s1

[tired sky]

depends on the stage

[hot rampart]

well since its a starter i question it to be the floor 1 stages

[tired sky]

yeah but iirc theres a few that might be pretty dangerous for her with s2

[versed compass]

she mostly work as aoe guard for easier stages

and have weird ass tactics to push the people to hole in symb

tho the weird ass tactic need yato or a blocker iirc

[tired sky]

https://tenor.com/view/300-action-drama-gerard-butler-madness-gif-3453226

[hot rampart]

yea i can see her work in symb one

[ebon sphinx]

https://vxtwitter.com/princess_0sora/status/1720097184518132098?t=qQLASqd-YdWMwTrG2_Xoug&s=19 bday

[hot rampart]

mumu bathwater

[tired sky]

[ebon sphinx]

there were one or two horny posting from the sanest Mumu simps in response to the 4th Anni splash art

[versed compass]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-kurotofu-beeswax-doctor-bonk-gif-19748185

[hot rampart]

alright fine i be more normal

mumu sweats

[tired sky]

https://tenor.com/view/cheems-bonk-doge-celestev69-gif-24399197

[next locust]

wtf

[tired gulch]

Haiyaaa

[tired sky]

an uncle roger enjoyer

[versed compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIXci6Au70s

she look solid

probably gonna raise her

[tribal thicket]

You look solid

[hallow garnet]

is that sivir

[next locust]

:hoshmm:

[quaint arch]

https://youtu.be/dXl06vKlmzo?feature=shared

[versed compass]

ya there will be a collab with sivir as the 6* for that archtype

[tired sky]

seeing her damage literally disappear after the mine effect is gone

yeah what was expected

[hallow garnet]

and her attacks lack any oomph

gimme throwing candles

gimme fire

gimme destruction

[tired sky]

honestly feels like the archetype Jieyun and shirayuki should have been

[versed compass]

its probably only thought of recently

they used to throw such chares into aoe archtype for some reason

[next locust]

she doesnt get her charge attack

why hg

why cant we get the charge attack

[quaint arch]

Cope it

[versed compass]

same reason we dont get eune ranged attacks or stun explodes

[quaint arch]

But hey, if anything, there's a bit of reason to raise Candle Knight

||BASE SKILL||

[versed compass]

she have a short cd art duel skill

think she pretty fine

nothing broken tho

arturia seems strong tho

[hallow garnet]

thats fine

notihng broken isnt the problem

it's the lack of originality

i look at her and i can smell 2021

[next locust]

i miss 2021

[tired sky]

arturia's range is absurd and as long as they dont go overboard with elemental res in enemies going forward she should remain strong

[next locust]

next event

enemies immune to elemental dmg

[quaint arch]

Nah... That wouldn't be likely to happen at Event

It'll be at CC

[versed compass]

thats what i want to know
they seem to go really heavy on elem damage recently (both the trigger ops and the damage in stuff like eben and new caster)

which seems weird since elem damage is like true damage but true damage dont come that often

[next locust]

[quaint arch]

We already have Uncle Miller

[versed compass]

we have like 3 true dps in the 3 years of rostar
but getting like 2 elemntal damage and 3 procers in like 3 months

[quaint arch]

We don't need more

[tired sky]

right now elemental damage is pretty much true damage no? we have no enemies with elemental res that i know of

even stuff like patriot has 0 res lmao

like they werent even planning on using it

and now arturia is here

[next locust]

who does

the most dps

in the game

damage per screenshot

[tired sky]

theoretically ?

reed alter

oh.

[quaint arch]

Ash S3

(jk, idk actually)

[next locust]

horn s2 maybe

hmm.

[tired sky]

if were talking biggest number in a single screenshot ?

eben probably

[versed compass]

ya thats what am saying
they usually slow in putting actual true damage (kal/nearl/amiya are the only one that does it in meanigful way)
but they dont hold back on elem damage it seems (literally releasing a whole archtype that does it which is ???)

[next locust]

oh yeah ebenholz exists

[quaint arch]

You forget?

[tired sky]

EBENSWEEP

[quaint arch]

The EBENSWEEP Montage

[versed compass]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_1kYoY1rGs IS3 ending 4 spolier but its in here

[quaint arch]

No... Don't tell me....

[next locust]

huge

[quaint arch]

[next locust]

thanks

[versed compass]

i actually did not watch the clip but its related to the hand + true damage boost and suzuran

[quaint arch]

I knew it

[next locust]

now i gotta find which op did it

[quaint arch]

Siege did it

[next locust]

probably typhon

guessing from this squad comp

[versed compass]

op dont matter

[quaint arch]

Be Sieger that is