No
#Arknights
bleak mirage
fluid verge
what is this?
fluid verge
ah hes a fgc dude with a bit of history
fluid verge
wow this guy is a scumbag
fluid verge
its more wtf this guy is not right in the head
fluid verge
fluid verge
i was happier not knowing about this guy 
bleak mirage
Now everytime you see that lin eating pick
You’ll think of ltg
Same pose and posture
Lol
wanton stratus
Unsteady Posture
nocturne quarry
This was actually my worst banner by far haha
183 pulls total
Three 6*
Hoshi, Chong & Rat in that order
At least I also got a Leizi
strong rampart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj_z0y6_mQM
Wao
Poggers
Official artwork doesn’t need a source, I was just curious
strong rampart
Dorothy 
ebon sphinx
Dorothy has such a kind and gentle voice..
tired sky
Dorothy <:Krappa:818464598118236180>
gravel i'd say
wanton stratus
🫘
tribal thicket
Ben the Bean
bleak mirage
Thanks Banpy
I try to be a good bean
I feel the more I live the more I shift to chaotic good though
sharp tartan
Imagine being in the internet while also being lawful
tribal thicket
no i missed ya
tribal thicket
I feel the more I live the more I shift to chaotic good though
At least its still good
quaint arch
<a:PAINSIVE:841825504905396244> no i missed ya
Well, it's just for one day, buddy
But I get the feeling, dw
tribal thicket
hot rampart
bleak mirage
I love amiya learned today
tough matrix
violet vortex
Dorothy is evil, Lin is an asshole, & Gravel has to be crazy to be interested in MC
hot rampart
dorothy did nothing wrong
quaint arch
Dorothy is evil, Lin is an asshole, & Gravel has to be crazy to be interested in...
Truly.
Rats must be exterminated at all costs.
bleak mirage
Idk man. Atleast Dorothy can atone and make sure not to repeat her mistakes
Plus she’s a scientist. Very useful
wanton stratus
Perform WWE moves on rats
quaint arch
tough matrix
how do I handle the second phase?
spark oasis
Nuke phase 2 with anything that can cover both lanes.
Phase 1 just needs DPS coverage to stop the floating clones from travelling too far.
hot rampart
chalter + warfarin buff + any crowd control that can cover both lane (suzu, rosa, ange)
can add mlynar for
faster clear
u can chalter + mlynar ig
and a lil bit of cc just to make sure they dont move out of range
spark oasis
Tbh, I just used Volcano (with Mod), and that was enough.
hot rampart
ye that works too
ebon sphinx
i just need to spend a bit more medals to get all the medals
tough matrix
I almost forget to bought this
kinda sad I can't buy ling's outfit, but I can do it later
hot rampart
its over
wanton stratus
Time for my favourite pasttime of reveling in the sadness of those who thought the banner ended tomorrow
strong rampart
Wait i wanted 2 eyjas
🐴
willow nymph
honse
fluid verge
horsey dorsey
tribal thicket
hot rampart
sexo
wanton stratus
There isn’t a single ‘299/300 pulls’ post on AKO. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
fluid verge
People smartened up
wanton stratus
How unfortunate
tough matrix
they're evolving
bleak mirage
Smart people man
strong rampart
I’d spark Lin if I still played
versed compass
ok maybe theres someone there who sparking lin with the G on that banner 
tribal thicket
https://vxtwitter.com/THXJl5WnJQ3e9h/status/1689904822076760064?s=20
Its whipping time
ebon sphinx
fluid verge
Jp server went nuts for chonk
tired sky
first limited male
young void
violet vortex
Invitation to Wine characters talking:
hallow garnet
Jp server went nuts for chonk
wut
since when do husbandos sell well
if they arent megabroken
glacial breach
Did ojisan sell well?
glacial breach
Monthly revenue chart
So if AK had a good position during the timing of his banner he sold well
hot rampart
Invitation to Wine characters talking:
is this u
tired sky
tbh there are no human beings left || save for dokutah || so theres no way they'd know how to speak with one in the first place no 
?
plain vessel
I didn't expect that twist lmao
versed compass
bro working harder then ever
strong rampart
https://i.imgur.com/eiqDg2F.png
versed compass
average opener
tribal thicket
Why is there 2 medics
hot rampart
is3 monthly
versed compass
Why is there 2 medics
theres actually no medics
only 2 aoe casters
good aoe casters
versed compass
Where’s the golem
in IS2
tribal thicket
You're my furry
nocturne quarry
Next event leak
keen hound
Who to build next?
versed compass
mountain is already built
sharp tartan
Wow thanks
I gotchu homie
strong rampart
sharp tartan
keep suzuran e1 80 to annoy natsu
If you simply want to deny yourself the experience of playing the true light that's on you 
strong rampart
If you simply want to deny yourself the experience of playing the true light tha...
Delusional
versed compass
If you simply want to deny yourself the experience of playing the true light tha...
i borrowed aak during original TW event
sharp tartan
Delusional, maybe
But it is faithful
sharp tartan
i borrowed aak during original TW event
That suzuran is weak
Not even e2 90 m3
Good riddance
Actually cucked me from playing my own suzuran
bleak mirage
useless strikes back
You hate mountain?
plain vessel
Mine is lvl 1 too
strong rampart
I dislike furries
bleak mirage
I find his story for revenge interesting
As long as you don’t tell me you like surtr for her “story”
plain vessel
I think mountain is p cool
bleak mirage
Were still good
strong rampart
As long as you don’t tell me you like surtr for her “story”
I also dislike Surtr
bleak mirage
Good
strong rampart
plain vessel
I like Surtr because
bleak mirage
And we got plenty of good looking women already
bleak mirage
Skyfire. She needs an alter
I also love how her fire is so intense she burns off her clothes
Like get some fire proof stuff made girl
tribal thicket
Who to build next?
Windflit
tribal thicket
Yes
ebon sphinx
quaint arch
https://vxtwitter.com/wawamachi/status/1690573893747286016?t=FMVqTAhajaH9pvwyz9Z...
Downvoted. No "SHEER HEART ATTACK" Jumpscare.
hot rampart
doktah gonna get a shock therapy
pine bone
Skill issue
keen hound
Skill issue
Is it IW-EX-8 is easier than IW-9?
pine bone
Why is Mountain deployed behind the boss?
S3, i was panicked
pine bone
Is it IW-EX-8 is easier than IW-9?
It is
keen hound
It is <:PotatoBrain:858369625350471761>
Why they leave no ground for each lasering phase?
tired sky
Why is Mountain deployed behind the boss?
the boss thinking he won
Mountain from behind
fluid verge
I nuked the boss so fast with the meta ops
Literally 3 seconds and dead
Suzu s3, saria s3, is stonks together
hot rampart
strong rampart
https://vxtwitter.com/Ksmtk79/status/1690652601275260928?t=1DD0wukOf5Kro_zIC1UYS...
My fav boss
Cuz of how much it makes ppl mald
bleak mirage
More mald bosses please
serene swallow
EBEN BLAST
strong rampart
Penetrated his shield too
his shield just buff his def
lol
so imagine how much dmg he'd do to a normal enemy
strong rampart
lol
also it only straight up blocks arts
u can kill him with Schwarz through the shield
3350 def with shield on -> Schwarz shred 20% -> 2680 def remaining
loses just over half her dph iirc
versed compass
https://vxtwitter.com/secondfuton/status/1690522174807805952
and still did not one shot him 
hot rampart
hot rampart
hot rampart
wine is flammable
bleak mirage
Use ifrit
fluid verge
These device drop rates are so ass
I can't believe this is the best stage we will get 
rat s1 surprisingly pretty good in this event
devout zenith
@quaint arch
glacial breach
Dats a lot of resources
devout zenith
man i'm so poor, cyue took 300 rolls
wanton stratus
The thing about Shadowverse is it seems so fun when I haven’t played it for a while, but when I play it I get an aneurysm
wanton stratus
man i'm so poor, cyue took 300 rolls
I’m catching up, only 200 pulls behind Gato now
fluid verge
The thing about Shadowverse is it seems so fun when I haven’t played it for a wh...
this is me fr fr
hot rampart
what is shadowverse
spark oasis
A verse, in the shadows.
hot rampart
willow nymph
5* tokens do be worthless
spark oasis
Eh, I bought the Sniper and Vanguard ones for April and Canta respectively.
next locust
KEI 🏋️ NARIO 🤸♂️ NAZASU 💪
Sensou 🚶 hyakushiki 🧎
Sensou 🧘♂️ hyakushiki 🐉
Kisamara 👐 no 🐲 mondai 🤸♂️
Sensou 👊 hyakushiki 🏃
KEI 🐲 NARIO 📣 NAZASU 💁♂️
KEIHA 🥋 SUREBA 🏋️ KOUCHOU 💪 OCHIRU 🏃
KEI 🤸♂️ NARIO 🐉 NAZASU 🧘♂️
wanton stratus
VA does work just to spend it all and give back to their employer <:kleekicant:1...
Namie moment
ebon sphinx
I mainly am aware that like Ch'en and BP's VAs have done pr0nz before meanwhile
not gravure or AVs
wanton stratus
I like this rabbit hole
wanton stratus
I miss seeing p word as ProZD for a sec
He’s done something even worse; Shadowverse sponsorships
tribal thicket
Twitter
hot rampart
wanton stratus
Man, I sure do love SSS
hot rampart
has to play SSS
imagine sisyphus happy
bleak mirage
Sss? I forgot about that game cause I’m the man
nocturne quarry
New mechanic in CN
wanton stratus
The only mechanic I need is Blemishine
glacial breach
The only mechanic I need is Eunectes
fluid verge
the only mechanic i need is closure
bleak mirage
I just use gavial to punch my problems away
ebon sphinx
bleak mirage
Mike tyson on the booty @tired sky
tired gulch
That went quicker than last time.
ebon sphinx
hot rampart
thats why u start droning gold factory
fluid verge
At this point
I need to run all my factories on gold bars
Was forced to go 1/4 exp/gold
Still goes away too fast 
devout zenith
proof
fluid verge
how do u have that many gold bars
bleak mirage
I need more gold tbh
fluid verge
tf u keeping up gold production 
strong rampart
tf u keeping up gold production <:ruria:818486804546060298>
I was running 333 and still keeping up gold
Skill issue, Aiur
quaint arch
I was running 333 and still keeping up gold
333 Base Settings
Where will you get EXP then?
quaint arch
What you gonna do with your LMD anyway without the EXP, besides flexing?
What? Modules?
strong rampart
What you gonna do with your LMD anyway without the EXP, besides flexing?
Make orundum
quaint arch
Kek
quaint arch
Btw, I'm touching grass for a while
strong rampart
quaint arch
strong rampart
fluid verge
wanton stratus
tired sky
bleak mirage
Play some actual games
tired sky
watched a video on it now
looks more like an arknights turned into a korean mmo
billions of damage being done on the video i'm watching
oh god theres gear to equip and upgrade
a la epic seven
tired sky
sounds like a hard pass thats what
tell you what, since tene is a good guy i'll try the game out
give it a fair shot.
tired sky
@bleak mirage bruh
wanton stratus
0,04% chance for any of those 8, making it 0,005% for a specific character?
Yeah, fuck that
wanton stratus
It looks even worse than Genshin
wanton stratus
<@120306315057692672> bruh <:KEKW:818462009321586741>
What’s the rate for a max rarity character overall?
tired sky
those seem to be it
5 stars
but some 5 stars have those super low rates
it definitely plays like arknights tho
wanton stratus
So it’s 0,5% chance for a 5 star on any given pull 💀
bleak mirage
Lol
wanton stratus
Any pity system?
tired sky
pity seems to be triggered...after 200 pulls
wanton stratus
AK gameplay
Genshin gear
FGO gacha rates
Who tf made this shi
tired sky
fgo has 0.8% rates, for the rate up
1% ssr rate
this is half of that
of course i dont know how the f2p income looks like
but...i seriously doubt its any good
3,5x speed is locked behind a premium subscription
wanton stratus
Sounds about right
violet vortex
That looks like shit what are you people getting into
tired sky
oh its the game tene said he was playing
so i decided to try it out, you know, shit on it after i test it
and it has all signs of a super predatory gacha
from absurdly low rates to basic qol features locked behind subscriptions
to gearing with multiple rng levels
violet vortex
Who could pass up such a perk
Can’t be caught manualing content
Don’t want to look poor do you
tired sky
the gameplay is basic tower defense gameplay, with towers having ranges suspiciously close to arknights'
wanton stratus
Can’t be caught manualing content
Also, not me manually beating Annihilation to be able to trust farm it
It was before the anni skip tickets were in the game, but still…
tired sky
speaking of predatory, tower of god's gacha is already going for it
new update adds paid skins with stats and their new ssr doesnt even feature rate up
so you gotta pray for the 0.029% rate
violet vortex
Gachas are inherently predatory and if someone willing to pay for that 0.04 then you can’t blame them
bleak mirage
Man
I’m kinda glad I am building a pc
My phone being only for videos more and more
tired sky
Gachas are inherently predatory and if someone willing to pay for that 0.04 then...
well yes thats why i said super predatory
because its bad even for a gacha
rule of thumb, if your gacha makes FGO look better, then your gacha is fucked up
quaint arch
(If someone's curious bout what i'm doing with my day)
wanton stratus
Idle gaming
strong rampart
It looks even worse than Genshin
Those aren’t the only top tier chars yk
I have done 460 pulls in 2 weeks as f2p
@tired sky
wanton stratus
Those aren’t the only top tier chars yk
How many hours did you spend watching tier list videos?
strong rampart
None
wanton stratus
fluid verge
this isnt tene
wanton stratus
When the impmodster is sus
hot rampart
what
WHAT
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY SMOKING
WHY IS HUNG SHARING THE 5* RATE
I RATHER IT BE FUCKING NOTHING
fluid verge
Bricked account orz
hot rampart
im gonna hung myself
young void
William Hung
strong rampart
always Angelina
nocturne quarry
Dang that delay on my end haha
bleak mirage
I hope we see monch again
tribal thicket
Wheres kay
wanton stratus
I’d rather be hung
bleak mirage
Can I just sack the character in one ten?
wanton stratus
You want her?
quaint arch
It'll be Nothing from that Ten Pulls
wanton stratus
No but seriously, is anyone actually going for Qiubai?
I’ll do up to 10 pulls for a decent chance at the new 5* but that’s it
Not gonna risk it for the biscuit when there are so many good operators coming
fluid verge
ill throw a tenner but im not suuuuuuuuuuuper into it
bleak mirage
Maybe I’ll do it
wanton stratus
Make sure to have enough for Kirito after
bleak mirage
Starburst stream
wanton stratus
intelligent life anywhere
hot rampart
reclamation algorithm
i think were gonna hv a whole ass month for it
so they can delay lone trail for our anniversary
tired sky
quaint arch
Kek
strong rampart
👀
bleak mirage
Tenes new pfp looking like he’s ready to play dfo
tired sky
dungeon fighter online ?
hot rampart
hot rampart
nocturne quarry
No but seriously, is anyone actually going for Qiubai?
I'm going all in for Qiubai
hot rampart
watch this clickbait
it may or may not change ur mind
salute anybody who wants to to role solely for waifu reason despite being walmart ines
wanton stratus
I'm going all in for Qiubai
Damn. Good luck ig 💀
hot rampart
wanton stratus
https://youtu.be/gNBuz1p31YM
It changed my mind slightly
Now I don’t even want her from the guaranteed 5* and above roll
hot rampart
u still will hung urself
willow nymph
https://youtu.be/gNBuz1p31YM
damn bro she got owned by a y1 dps with crippled damage nowadays
hot rampart
it gets worse if u start comparing it to actual dps then
willow nymph
just remember that if you oversimplify
mly is more than twice of sa damage
and dph
wanton stratus
SilverL
I’m really not sure what Qiubai’s niche is supposed to be
She’s a bit better at laneholding than SA, sure
But who uses SA for holding lanes anymore
hot rampart
even her root is unreliable
altho roots that isnt on the same tier as ethan a 4* will always be unreliable
hot rampart
there is cantabile
wanton stratus
Blacknight too, I guess
I’m not sure why I would use cantabile when I have access to Flagpipe though
hot rampart
role compression
wanton stratus
The only role compression I’m willing to do regarding vanguards is cutting them out of my team entirely
willow nymph
altho roots that isnt on the same tier as ethan a 4* will always be unreliable
50% bind uptime on skill
op op
hot rampart
role compression of pseudo fast redeploy, assassin, dp printing, early lane holding, drone hitter
willow nymph
on average
hot rampart
qb is mid and thats fine
hg out here letting people save more for MH collab
and giving people more time to save by making RA a whole month event
wanton stratus
Drone hitter, bed shitter
hot rampart
i wont judge
young void
Q Bye is just one of those charas waiting for a module 
unless she already has one then GG
nocturne quarry
Nah Lords don't have module yet
Her S2 is also pretty good
https://youtu.be/fq6LUPW_bO0
fluid verge
Martial artist swordswoman is a great archetype 
hallow garnet
Q Bye is just one of those charas waiting for a module <:KEKW:957841180635316254...
shes one of those charas whos tryina be sold on looks
instead of whatever meta
the s2 is cool tho
young void
too bad i dont like chai knees enough
coz im not simping
yeah that's with the power of future visions
hallow garnet
shes the obligatory rest banner
young void
imagine the cn players who didnt know of the Monhun collab
hallow garnet
hot rampart
idts
even tho qb month profit in CN is pretty high
its most likely skewered thanks to exu paid skin being released on the same month as qb
young void
young void
she looks a bit too old for my liking personally
her face has like the "hag" feel to it
violet vortex
her face has like the "hag" feel to it
Every time I hear this word used it’s just referring to a character who looks older than a teenager
young void
she got the old woman face though smh
nocturne quarry
When QB gets a good module, I'll let you guys borrow
versed compass
why would i borrow your weak QB
violet vortex
she got the old woman face though smh
Yeah I can tell by the lack of wrinkles & serious expression. You’ve just been hanging around too many shadowmain groups to where you forgot characters can be older than 18 & not be 40
A whole 22 years even
ebon sphinx
what's notable about AK is that it seems the cast are mostly 20-35 or something for the ones that are adults
or sometimes older....
wanton stratus
And how is it elsewhere?
versed compass
Not sure what a shadowmain group is but I don’t know if I want to find out
shadow main group as in shadowverse shadow players group (ya know the class that have a little kid as their og leader)
ebon sphinx
And how is it elsewhere?
typically the cast are going to skew younger in general!
wanton stratus
We’re talking gacha games now, right? I haven’t played too many, myself
keen hound
What operators are really worth it to build even tho im level 73?
sharp tartan
Well you need to give your available operators first for us to give advice
You can't just go ask someone which phone you should buy unless they have a concrete knowledge on your resources to give a good recommendation
Anyway obviously you build suzuran and I'm not biased
keen hound
Ah like supports i have suzuran and vanguard like elysium and texas
violet vortex
Show a picture of what you have if you want any kind of advice
violet vortex
Spec - Ethan, Jaye, Gladiia, Lee
Supp - Suzu, Deepcolor
Medic - Lumen, Perfumer, Honeyberry to e1 at least
Caster - Lin
Sniper - Archetto, Kroos
Defender - Blemishine, Gummy
Guard - Lappland, Chen, Cutter
Vanguard - Myrtle, Elysium, Saga, Cantabile
keen hound
Thx
keen hound
Spec - Ethan, Jaye, Gladiia, Lee
Supp - Suzu, Deepcolor
Medic - Lumen, Perfumer,...
Kroos alter?
quaint arch
Fang, Kroos, Steward, 25th- Midnight
quaint arch
Also Spot
fluid verge
Why deep color 
violet vortex
Cheap to raise strong summoner if they ever want to use one
Also an allstar pick in IS
hot rampart
hot rampart
Why deep color <:PepoThink:818462964398293042>
also new deep color skin coming soon
and its free!
versed compass
dont think deep color is viable for anything tbh
even in IS
you better off spending more hope for mayer instead in IS3
and in lower D scene would be better out right
versed compass
idk who you have raised but i would start off with fartooth/archetto/saga/blemishine depending on what you missing
mizuki gladiia weedy lee are solid raises as will (mizuki dps/ gladiia weedy for shift nonsense or tankness in gladiia case sometimes i guess/lee have solid cases where he can stall)
lumen is raise for general healing but a not big deal imo
suzuran is great if you have dps raised already
hot rampart
you better off spending more hope for mayer instead in IS3
and in lower D scene ...
yeah but then u need to raise mayer
versed compass
versed compass
second m9 mod 6 
wanton stratus
I don’t think I have a single M9
willow nymph
you better off spending more hope for mayer instead in IS3
and in lower D scene ...
in terms of body throwing dc is by far the best
dc's tentacles are also much better at being a bait than mayer's otter
3dp is just such a cheat
versed compass
will mayer is mostly cause she can stun in later stages
i dont think body throwing is that relevant in IS3 high end on its own tbh, or at least not enough to favor raising deep color
hot rampart
i think body throwing is pretty relevant if u arent a skilled player
also as much as mayer has a stun that hit air idt thats good enough to warrant bringing her later in the run when u get ur carries up and everyone should have kroos alter + texas alter cheat code
both dc and mayer gonna get benched at that point but at least u paid way less resources and hope for dc
hot rampart
you also have the option to raise neither
its just nice to have a summoner raised if one dont hv ling and thats why dc is economically better instead of raising mayer
versed compass
ehhh summoner is one archtype you really wont use casually out side of IS/ling
versed compass
also as much as mayer has a stun that hit air idt thats good enough to warrant b...
also for IS you could borrow ling at start (since summoners are usually openers)
and do he even own texas alter?
mayer is global range stun pretty much and only texas alter is better at the job imo
but idk if he owns her or not
versed compass
texas alter borrow means you wont use deep color anyway
since texas is gonna be his opener
and honestly sound ass opener
hot rampart
he can still get dc later with the amount of bodies u can throw with it
in said floor 1
hot rampart
ehhh summoner is one archtype you really wont use casually out side of IS/ling
i think they are that archetype that greatly boost ur early game progression
especially with people recommending to e2 myrtle 1st just so u can borrow ling
but instead u can raise dc and do the throw bodies at the problem + borrowing something like mlynar / surtr / texas alter in normal stages
violet vortex
I’ve used deepcolor from a0 to a15 in some runs she’s solid
versed compass
i only used her from temp and did not feel she is solid enough to be raised
especially for someone who is still in 2 digit levels imo
versed compass
but instead u can raise dc and do the throw bodies at the problem + borrowing so...
i dont think its his first e2
tho if its his first e2 and he looking for a 4* e2 i think best would be cutter/pinecone since they can help the dps (and you have enough slots for bodies since 11 extra slots and you are not running powerful stuff anyway)
you also should remember she need module for body throwing effectivly (without module she is pretty whatever tbh)
hot rampart
she can already body throw
module just makes it better
and u are still locked with deployment slots anyway
versed compass
she can but not as effective because of dp cost and count of tentecals
hot rampart
yes no shit
versed compass
and anyway as i said, body throwing is not a big deal for someone looking for first e2
you are already running bunch of garbage anyway
hot rampart
i said body throwing cuz thats one of its upside
the summons scales with their operator level u are effectively raising multiple units at once
multiple blockers
and still hv the option to borrow other 6* carries beside ling
versed compass
its the only upside
summoners are out right weaker then just running normal team comb (by normal i mean a bunch of e1 4/5* ops)
the exception is ling who put massive amount of stats
and you can borrow other 6* carrys without a summoner
yo ucan just use your normal e1 ops
hot rampart
normal team comp dont exist yet when u are new
versed compass
it does
violet vortex
It’s a cheap 4* and the self healing lets deepcolor solo/almost solo a good chunk of IS early stages
versed compass
at e1 i find her struggle to almost solo early stages
at e2 sure but thats 2 tickets
i find much more success just using other ops in early stages personally
hot rampart
new players dont hv much option as u tbh
versed compass
anyway i can see her work in IS
but for general stuff? hell no just run normal team comb
versed compass
new players dont hv much option as u tbh
again normal team comb for general content is low rarity shit everyone have accuse too
not some high rarity impossible to get stuff
for IS newbies with nothing in hand are out right better to borrow ling to get resources
hot rampart
thats an odd way to see when she can work in almost high diff IS
she definitely can work in normal team comp
versed compass
IS force you to have low op count
general content theres no reason to raise summoners early unless you know how to play the game to start with
raising a normal team comb works way better for a newbie
(normal as in kroos/coura/steward and shit ya know)
hot rampart
i guess it depends
versed compass
(ling of course is an exception to this because she is very overstated)
hot rampart
u want to raise multiple units of 3* or 4* that gets powercreeped later
or u can raise dc and focus only on ur 6*
versed compass
thats stupid argument
your 3 and 4* can also be used in IS to help you grow
and DC will make early game hell for a newbie (and he probably wont have many 6* unless he sacc)
early game is already the hardest stage of ak anyway
so focusing on getting a smoother early is much better then focusing on trying to reach late faster
hot rampart
i think the amount of 6* he has right now is a lot already
versed compass
he is not a new new bie
your argument for first e2
the dude is level 74 or something lol
ok 73 but still
he should focus on his 6* as he have many that would be very useful i would say
hot rampart
right i guess i talked in a way that i suggest dc as first e2
thats on me
its still a decent one tho
versed compass
only for IS usage
but imo not worth it over other stuff he have to raise maybe later
hot rampart
not only for IS usage
u are e2ing an operator that provides u multiple blockers just from 1 single operator as a new player i think thats a huge deal
and the operator itself being a ranged tile arts dps
low dps as it may be
its something
versed compass
not huge deal when you have 13 slots to have all the blockers you need
there might be niche usage like low op CC but having blockers should not be a worry for newbies
hot rampart
13 slots of weaker blockers u havent raised yet at all
hot rampart
honestly i thought were on the first e2 part
hot rampart
u mentioned that so
versed compass
you are the one who keep changing subject...
hot rampart
?
i thought its u
were not at the same wavelength im sorry about that
i think the seaborns have a point
versed compass
you first started to talk about first e2 here (changing the subject to that)
then you talked about his rostar (changing the subject to him)
and now you telling me its about first e2....
hot rampart
that is true but im just following what im seeing from u too
versed compass
am literally doing that
hot rampart
great
lets talk back to the part of dc with that guy roster currently
i still think dc is still worth a raise even for normal comp that already has some 3* 4* blocker raised
and she still be useful for IS later
in a normal comp when he does start raising more of his dps units now he can swap out one of said blockers to throw out as a body for more slots in dps
one or two or maybe even 3
versed compass
until he raise enough dps deep color is out of question
and it will only works if he somehow need multiple blockers and many dps at the same time
which i dont recall a single case out side of forced low op (aka certain CCs where borrowing ling will fix the issue)
its only later when he consider IS and wants to raise deep color for that (dont think she is outstanding enough personally but at that point he can do whatever anyway since its late game)
hot rampart
i think boss stage is normally where u need multiple blockers + multiple dps
theres gravel to bait the boss yes but usually theres 15 sec of downtime so if u want to delay a boss as long as possible at any given spot whether setting up ur dps setup and such u mostly need gravel + another blocker to rotate around
gravel + dc works best
versed compass
and i dont think theres a single boss where a player actually did this instead of just using the balanced support dps like mlynar (excluding challenge players like silver gun)
a lot of bosses have either insane damage that some ass like roberta would do better at stalling or do some global shit that spamming gravel dc specifcally wont really do shit
just focus on the dps raising now and save your self the trouble of stalling
and will suzuran to boost those dps
hot rampart
with dc u can have some insurance of blockers after accidentally fucking up ur setup of using normal 3*/4* blockers becuz the boss does very weird shit of instakilling people / global shenanigans
versed compass
thats seems way too specific case
versed compass
you probably getting fucked already if the boss is allowed to do his nonsense
hot rampart
sometimes u just do practice runs perfectly but suddenly in actual run something goes absolutely fucking wrong
versed compass
thats still dont sell DC to me
like you running her as a way to not fuck up your run? what if you fuck up with DC
hot rampart
thats not the case?
hot rampart
civil discussion
versed compass
what am saying is
you making some specific case where you might fuck up in the real run after practice run which happen often yes but deep saving the day with body throwing dont seem like a common case at all
i lost some practice into real games and throwing bodies dont save the day when the main plan fail
and this is with 70 stars squad mind you
versed compass
i use multiple FR
deep color throwing 1~2 tentecal is no different from 2 FR drops and a surtr
hot rampart
the only fr that can stall is probably only gravel
versed compass
its body throwing
the tenticals will get one shotted anyway
or 2 shotted at best case
hot rampart
yeah but u have multiple of it at a shorter 5 sec cd
limited as it may be
4 of it = 20 sec
versed compass
it still wont fix the issue
as the case you made will mean the boss will be free for 5 secs
which would mean it will fuck up your fight
if you somehow have 20 secs in hand then the run is not fucked up to start with
hot rampart
i think the fuck is when
everyone fucking died
now ur only hope is to everyone finish their countdown to be redeployed again
versed compass
if everyone died then stalling with deep wont fix the issue
versed compass
you keep changing the scenario and its not even fitting deep right
hot rampart
how exactly
versed compass
somehow the boss have a silver of hp now? but FR fix that already
stalling ? FR are better staller for 70 secs
hot rampart
yeah thats a bad example on me
yeh but u need multiple fr then
and their cost keep increasing each time
versed compass
and deep wont stall for 70 secs on her own
like you just better off conceding and trying again
hot rampart
yeah its why i said gravel + dc
hot rampart
how does fr stall for 70 seconds then
versed compass
you dont is my freaking point
versed compass
like you just better off conceding and trying again
..
hot rampart
i think u can still stall long enough
it doesnt hv to be 70 sec
boss has long path usually
versed compass
it have to be longer actually
most ops need time to reuse their skill
and then you add the other mobs who would pass by
versed compass
if you using multiple surtr then you already had a plan on how to clear the stage
can you show me the deep color surtr clear in this case
so dc stall the pass and the other mobs at same time?
ya that sound imaginery case af
hot rampart
usually when the boss fucks u up
its the normal mobs gonna freely reach the blue box first
versed compass
ya and FR kill normal mobs usually
while deep only stall some of them
we will have to agree to disagree, neither will make the other person mind here
versed compass
every FR kill better then deep excluding gravel
hot rampart
yeah but they dont last fpr upcoming mobs
versed compass
quaint arch
Reverse psychology
hot rampart
where is RA
eternal mountainBOT
quaint arch
tired gulch
He's dead tho
pine bone
Sanct ptsd
wanton stratus
Gus
hot rampart
dont cook
wanton stratus
I’ll cook chinken
willow nymph
and deep wont stall for 70 secs on her own
DC s2 unbeliever
She absolutely can if boss 2 shots or has low atk interval
8 tentacle is a ton
And FR are strictly worse at stalling in terms of uptime
Just because their timer start when they die and not when they are deployed
Let's say dc summon give you 6s, you can resummon another 4s after it died and if boss walks slowly enough you can just push it back to where it was .
Let's drop a gravel instead . She tanks for 10s then dies
You need to wait 16s to drop gravel again
Even with 2 frd you don't really have as much uptime
Because adding a kafka would stall for 5~7s every deployment
And you still have to wait 9~11s for gravel
Maybe you can get a bit more from pushing with the body but not much
versed compass
can you show me a vid of dc popping off as a body thrower to stall a boss after fucking up your main plan in bursting the boss?
i only saw DC being used by silver gun (who does 4* only content)
willow nymph
i only saw DC being used by silver gun (who does 4* only content)
Why doesn't he gravel then
willow nymph
can you show me a vid of dc popping off as a body thrower to stall a boss after ...
"Can you show me a vid of someone fucking up "
Do you know how stupid that sounds
versed compass
Why doesn't he gravel then
silver gun does low op often
which involve summoners
a casual player would do 12 ops squad more often
versed compass
"Can you show me a vid of someone fucking up "
thats literally what kama was selling to start with....
a case where deep save fucked up stages
versed compass
it still dont make sense to sell the (fucked up) cases by kama is what i mean
you just concede and play another one to not fuck up
instead of coping deep saving teh day
is what am saying
willow nymph
DC is the only 4* that can duo h6-4 with a 6*
And also one of the few good openers for it
versed compass
ya because casuals will do low op.....
willow nymph
Ya because casuals will cope 5 slots for opening
Or take dc in squad
And have 4 more slots free while having an op that's incredible to stall fn
I dunno that sounds like an amazing op to me
versed compass
so newer players should raise DC to stall FN instead of raising an actual squad first?
for ya know
other missions?
willow nymph
FN is an example among others
DC is great at opening maps, at body throwing at stalling
She's amazing role compression which is what a newbie's gonna like
versed compass
i managed to stall FN amazingly using gravel and another FR enough for e1 grey throat to kill
pretty sure newbies dont need deep when gravel does the job with underwhelming marksman
willow nymph
More than a specialised op (beyond the necessary ones)
2 fr still worse than solo dc in most *stalling cases i talked about it above
So yeah more slots more leeway
versed compass
except 2 FR are actually cheaper then e2 40 moduled DC
expically conisdering you must raise gravel for base to start with
willow nymph
DC does more than just stall
She also opens maps amazingly
H6-4 i took as an example because she's just playing all of her strengths in there
But i'm sure you know there's plenty of other maps where she do too
versed compass
you can open maps pretty easily with normal vgs at e1, and he already have many other ops to raise over deep
willow nymph
you can open maps pretty easily with normal vgs at e1, and he already have many ...
E2 4* vgs have the same stats as a tentacle
For their shitty cost and becoming worthless later on