Granblue Fantasy

[dusky terrace]

stupid perci, mika etc

[ancient imp]

Its really worth if you plan to run manadiver

[old quarry]

well you will alwyas want at least 2 overrider in fire

[dusky terrace]

yea but 2nd exalto is more universal

warlord's right

[ancient imp]

But exalto is worth on every grid

[old quarry]

I would just get both if I was you

[dusky terrace]

sure

but i can only get one rn

😄

shoulda gotten the other one instaed of gabu probably

on the flash spark

[old quarry]

Could always spark on valentine I suppose

[dusky terrace]

with what funds

[ancient imp]

My guy the person wouldnt ask for a choice if they can just grab both

[old quarry]

your side content?

[dusky terrace]

not enough time

for a spark

[ancient imp]

Side stories trolldespair

[dusky terrace]

unless i let the current banner go

and skip raph

sidestories are mostly done tho

besides what we got this year

[old quarry]

Imagine not having a spark ready in side stories and fate episodes

[dusky terrace]

well

i did them all

mostly

[old quarry]

That's why you slack

But well, idk your choice.

Both are mandatory for fire manadiver

And I don't think using 1 overidder is even good

[ancient imp]

Go on your way to spark something and simply pull the other component

Its that easy

[dusky terrace]

ye i shoulda sparked one of this on flash

too bad it was only like 1hr left

at the time

and i had to make a fast decision

so i just grabbed gab

[old quarry]

That's why you preplan. I am sparking Percival on legfest for example

[ancient imp]

Gab is for gw stuff so understandable

[dusky terrace]

bro

i literally

came back

at that moment

[ancient imp]

Fuck preplanning we ball

[dusky terrace]

i had no preplan

cause i wasnt even playing since april

[ancient imp]

I see a girl I want to pull do everything I can so I can spark her

[dusky terrace]

i can just get fenie on anni spark

probably

or if we get another grand ticket

on anni

[ancient imp]

I had to do side stories on my work hour to sparked fenie on her banner

[dusky terrace]

i have to go exalto

really no other choice

sadge

and still need to get a 3rd one too

i'll ask kather too when hes up

oh we have suptix too

is there even anybody in there whos worthy

abby axe

[calm sail]

leech 20,000 times for 1 drop (its the wrong one)

[dusky terrace]

oh i could get tikoh

[old quarry]

for fire. Ragazzo maybe?

[dusky terrace]

i have him

[old quarry]

Tikoh is pretty good true

[dusky terrace]

abby for wep

i saw it being used sometimes to fill out the 4axe req

amelia could be an option for dirt

yea those 3 pretty much

or dark seva

possibly

[old quarry]

Satyr earth is the best dirt target but I assume you have her

[dusky terrace]

i do

[old quarry]

or earth olivia too

very good

[dusky terrace]

have her

the options are: tikoh, abby axe, seva, amelia

but i'll hold

maybe something drops from the free 200

or during finishing my leg spark

im not leaving raphie behind

and gotta get snek too even tho shes mid for now

annitix will probably be fire wam

tho i wanna get aglo instead

[flint blade]

Is Optimum Pride grid still better than Magna as usual?

Idk how do I call Varuna and the others

[dusky terrace]

primal?

[flint blade]

Yeah

[dusky terrace]

if you have the grid

yes

always better

but as always it's costly

and magna is really good rn

unless you got the $$

[flint blade]

Tons of Damascus Bar if I wanna invest on Primal as F2P, right?

[dusky terrace]

yep

and having the right grand weps

etc

i wouldnt really recommend it unless you got all the pieces for a certain primal alrdy

including the summons

[flint blade]

How do I survive Magna 2 Grinding? I remember I reached my worst burnout from grinding Magna 2

[dusky terrace]

if you dont like grind

dont play this game

it's grindblue fantasy for a reason

also m2 im not sure

[flint blade]

Take a break whenever necessary?

[dusky terrace]

nobody does m2 anymore

i dont even know how beginners get their raids done

[flint blade]

How? It was a huge deal years ago

[dusky terrace]

we just sweep m2 now

yeah

years ago

we moved on to m3 now

[flint blade]

Straight to M3?

[dusky terrace]

no

you dont have access to m3

it's rank gated

even m2 is rank gated

build your m1, then m2, then m3

[flint blade]

Is Lumi Sword still necessary for early stage?

[dusky terrace]

yes

you have to go thru the usual progression

you build your grid so you may be able to farm the higher tier

[flint blade]

I hope it's still not as painful as how I did it years ago. I remember Lumi Sword is the most difficult pieces to be gotten

[dusky terrace]

certainly not

chev swords can be bought

for pendants

[old quarry]

dojo guves you a lotof free stuff

[dusky terrace]

really how do beginner do m2

if nobody is in those raids anymore

cuz everybody sweeps

[flint blade]

Will I need chillest crew if I wanna minimize burnout?

[dusky terrace]

nobodys gonna demand high gw contribution from a full on beginner

you have nothing to compete with

im sure there are beginner friendly crews out there

[cunning mist]

m2 is still serviceable. But m3 is leaps ahead.

[dusky terrace]

okay i have 27 pulls left in side stories

can put that towards the leg spark

plus the xtals

[fierce python]

You get m2 for free, theres beginner missiions

[dusky terrace]

ooooh

okay now that ur here

i should get 2nd zeta exalto over fenie staff right?

from the tix

[fierce python]

Exalto first

[dusky terrace]

even 3rd exalto before fenie?

cant get a 3rd now but just to know

[fierce python]

Up to you at that point

[dusky terrace]

alr we'll see when i get there

but i really shoulda gotten an exalto over gabu

issokay

gabu is a long term investment

[fierce python]

Do the academy missions, the voice actor got to rank 150 in 2 days

https://gbf.wiki/Sierokarte's_Knickknack_Academy

[flint blade]

What are the most important raids I should do in my entire progress?

[fierce python]

Up to you, just get them done. It ends before fighting faa

[old quarry]

man why did they hide rebirth behind 150

new players can't even leach their way to m3

[steep gulch]

150 is extremely fast to hit these days.

[torn turret]

zamn levi mares are filling up rapidly
guess i gotta wanpan

[steep gulch]

water gw soon so yeah

[keen osprey]

👍

[cyan loom]

tempted to pick up a mjolnir since i’ve successfully been disincentivized from getting a fire SP

[keen osprey]

ajt yap god convinced em

and yes fire sp is a waste

[cunning mist]

I feel like a gay bulge would be nice.

I'll probably grab that

[cyan loom]

it wasn’t him it was actually quwatoro hitting respectable numbers in pbhl with a fire ultima fist/fraux fist

[cunning mist]

Last time I grabbed ulikummi

[steep gulch]

i dislike unreliability so id never pick mjolnir tbh.

[cunning mist]

I forgot but

Why is Gae bulg bad again?

[keen osprey]

people are only picking mjolnir coz of orologia summon

[cunning mist]

Like, it is free 20% cap up, right?

[keen osprey]

since it lets them "0 button" otk EX+

[cunning mist]

For crits, granted

[keen osprey]

idk

never read gay bulge

[cunning mist]

https://gbf.wiki/Gae_Bulg_(Fire)

[cyan loom]

its just niche

it isnt bad

[cunning mist]

It's weird, because I would really assume it to be solid

[steep gulch]

its a spear. so you have to run a spear class for it. thats its main drawback.

[cunning mist]

Unlike most of the others, the advantage is quite substantial

Aaaah.

I guess apsaras alone isn't enough, even if it's really solid

[steep gulch]

maybe once asparas row V shows up this thing gets a second breath of life.

[cunning mist]

Hm, I'll prob go for it anyway, it's that or uli

Or dama knife

[keen osprey]

actually gonna be years till apsaras Tier V

[cunning mist]

Because that's fun

[cyan loom]

did they really not give a date for the illustrious rebals

[cunning mist]

January they said

[cyan loom]

prob gonna be 1/23 right after this ticket ends

[cunning mist]

What's the next class they teased btw?

If they teased any

[cyan loom]

they didnt

[cunning mist]

Shame.

[cyan loom]

shieldsworn is getting new stuff

thats it

[keen osprey]

next class they didnt tease but it's going off chronological order of Tier IV classes

so it's Nighthound Tier V next

[torn turret]

shieldsworn is getting ultimate mastery for anni

[cunning mist]

Oh, I just recalled that I could play hercules kengo

Because of that ultra mastery skill

[keen osprey]

but yeah

Viking
Paladin
Iatromantis
Manadiver
Street King
Onmyoji
Sumaibito
Nighthound Tier V next

i expect news on it during anni

[cyan loom]

expect nothing from this game since they couldnt bother to update about the delayed MSQ

[cunning mist]

Hm, hercules, gae and that's it pretty much.

[keen osprey]

they wrote themselves into a hole

[cunning mist]

That's the one I have a care for

[keen osprey]

msq delayed coz lmao how to get out of this one

[old quarry]

I think I am getting damascus knife

[torn turret]

i mean they didnt even address it at all

they didnt need a date or anything but
they didnt acknowledge it

[cunning mist]

Dama knife on onmyouji for the beeeeeg ougi damage sounds nice

[keen osprey]

at the end of the day no one really cares for msq so it's probably very low on their prio list

[cunning mist]

Granted, I don't run kengo unless I run higurashi

So it would go to another element.

[torn turret]

mh
i do not think the first part of this sentence is true

a lotta people, including me, do care

but it is true that its low prio for them

[old quarry]

Well nobody cares cause it happens so rare

People like plenty of chars from msq

[keen osprey]

they have yet to give pholia or cain flb

i will never forgive them

my two goats

left to dry in the dust

dont mind the skeleton of lecia there

[old quarry]

Pholia finaly getting an alt after all this years

And it being painfully mid

[torn turret]

well since theyre done with all the disciples they can do other grands now kekw

[keen osprey]

other grands? time to FLB the 6 Dragons next

[cunning mist]

MONIKA FLB PLEASE

[keen osprey]

[cunning mist]

PLEASE

[old quarry]

At least Ferry will get a grand this year

[cunning mist]

MY GIRL

[keen osprey]

tho i would not mind FLB 6 Dragons

i'd take it

[torn turret]

i mean up next is probably DAO, no?

[keen osprey]

idc if they're more recent

[cunning mist]

Oh, and lecia too huh.

[keen osprey]

honestly it's probably Shalem

release order doesn't matter anymore

[old quarry]

Crazy that few of them really need it lol

[keen osprey]

Wamdus DEFINITELY needs one

[torn turret]

Wam

[old quarry]

Do we know next grand 5*

[torn turret]

no

[cunning mist]

Honestly, she does have a cool outfit. Or at least, the mantle is cool as heck

I always partial to those mantles that are pretty much just capes

[keen osprey]

i was actually hoping we'd get Pholia FLB for Water-adv but

considering she's msq chara

can just count all them out

[cunning mist]

Honestly, one day I'll have a mantle half as cool

[keen osprey]

and instead got replaced with Shit Noir

assuming Fire-adv GW next (?)

FUCK IT, WILNAS FLB

LET'S GO

Sturm who

[torn turret]

Oh yeah
Now its Rein time

[keen osprey]

he's msq chara

so nope

[cunning mist]

Monika and lecia PLEASE

[torn turret]

alley-yoop

[fierce python]

[cunning mist]

Dark paying for their crimes

[keen osprey]

Actually the worst Zodiac released..

[old quarry]

That just means we are getting a busted dark seasonal on anni

[keen osprey]

Minigobu better than Snekko

[torn turret]

not true actually

[old quarry]

But hey, at least I can safely skip snake for now

[torn turret]

release doggo

[old quarry]

Cause I know I am not sacking her

[torn turret]

she got a rebal within 5 months

[keen osprey]

Honestly it's been so long I forgot how she was on release

I hope Indala gets the same treatment then

[old quarry]

Was Catura good on release?

[torn turret]

she had her uses yes

[cunning mist]

Don't forget that anila is still worse

[torn turret]

namely, Ewi Beaks were pretty new at the time

[keen osprey]

Catura was above average

[torn turret]

so her s2 being so many hits was a big deal

well, big-ish

[keen osprey]

Her s1 was good and her s2 was a highlight of many showcases

[old quarry]

But yes, Snake desing is so tame. Feels like she is few years old

[torn turret]

also you say this but
outside of the disciples theyve still kinda been following it

[keen osprey]

Lucio..

[torn turret]

lucio was one of the oldest to not have a flb ye

[keen osprey]

Yeah fuck it Shalem FLB best

Next

She needs to be good ty

Make Dark Ougi good

[torn turret]

shalem flb replaces her kit with the seasonal shalems combined

[old quarry]

I am down for Shalem flb

Get the pacifier out

[cunning mist]

It's lecia.

Lecia will get it.

[old quarry]

That's fine too, I have her

[cunning mist]

And I hope monika with it

[fierce python]

hexa when

[old quarry]

How is Orologia summon?

Compared to other providence

[keen osprey]

Busted just because it can otk EX+ with whale setups

[torn turret]

honestly idk what they do with lecia
since her whole gimmick is real outdated
besides just replacing the gimmick entirely ig

[keen osprey]

As general user, much weaker

General use*

[old quarry]

Not worth the tix than for me I suppose

[keen osprey]

yeah i definitely would not sierotix orologia

always 150 gm weapon

too good

[fierce python]

you will find its real use when they release a new HL fight

[torn turret]

also good for burst setups in general

[old quarry]

Besides I will prob get if later from random pulls. It's how I got all of my providences

[torn turret]

the only providence i dont have is yatima

[keen osprey]

it does cheese hexa shields and helps with the 35m on luci 0 but you'd have to be a mega noob

outside of that

its main perk is playing Orologia's theme when on homescreen

[old quarry]

For sure but I have old sierotix from when I quit the game.

[keen osprey]

peak af

i mean if you were to siero anything rn if u dont have it

it's like

triple zero

[cunning mist]

Yatima is still peak imo.

[keen osprey]

that summon is just too fucking good

[cunning mist]

Peak home screen

[keen osprey]

or yatima yeah if ur a bar farmer

like if u wanna farm gold bars and dont have yatima

tix yatima

roi is insane as long as u put in the work

[old quarry]

I have that already. And no I am just going to save it for latter

[keen osprey]

👏

another year of saving it

ez

[old quarry]

Now that I care about both Dark and Water I imagine I am using it this summer

[old quarry]

I am sparking her on anni flash

[keen osprey]

the summon

not the chara

[old quarry]

Ahh well, I already have her

[keen osprey]

ur fine then

[old quarry]

As I said, I luck sacked all my providences

I have them all

[keen osprey]

crazy how belial was my first providence. i didnt have luci or baha for the LONGEST

[old quarry]

I got belial from the summer incident

[keen osprey]

ah that's the incident that made me quit the game for 3 years

so bad

[cunning mist]

I still don't have a 4* baha

[torn turret]

oh right i still havent stoned my 000

[old quarry]

Same, I don't have enough stones to stone all my providences now

[fierce python]

reminder if you have bahamut 250, you can leech faa0

at this point of time its usually better to be a labor bot than dying

[safe bough]

What's the verdict on Oro

[keen osprey]

not sierotix worthy

but very strong summon regardless

[torn turret]

i dont 😔
i only have luci 250

[safe bough]

Guess I save stones then

[keen osprey]

oh

if u have oro

u might as well stone it

assuming u have all your other important things first

ie primarch summons

[fierce python]

welcome to HL

[safe bough]

I am missing maxed dragons. Kinda waiting to see if I get a baha or Luci/000 or smth

[keen osprey]

not gonna suptix the baha or luci that's up rn?

[safe bough]

Don't want to whale more 😭

[keen osprey]

guaranteed finish tomorrow

got my first ewiyar summon

[old quarry]

but what if you roll 200 rolls?

[keen osprey]

free rolls is free rolls

[old quarry]

I stopped at 100 becouse of that risk

[keen osprey]

never happens to me and if it does idc

[fierce python]

[keen osprey]

[fierce python]

at this point Raphael is the spark target and I don't mind gold moons

[keen osprey]

sparking my second Efes

even tho i still want Fediel

:sigh:

tired of single efes Zeus

feels so bad

[old quarry]

No rate ups, again

I got wilnas I guess, but is he even usable without Silva?

[keen osprey]

wilnas just p mediocre

[old quarry]

I swear christmas roultte just hates me

I never get any rate ups from it

This is 3rd year in a row of increadily shit double spark roulette on flash and leg

[chrome condor]

Eh

Got 20 Pulls + Gachapin + Mukku

and ended up with the new Zodiac at least

and 1 Gold Moon + 1 Cerberus Summon

[scenic creek]

💀 2 10s in a row.....ouch

yet nowhere close for frenzy

[dusky terrace]

is geisen used for anythign?

should i finish getting him?

[dusky terrace]

hes pretty much dead outside of silva comp

from what i gather

zeta killed him

[old quarry]

yep. Gbf rates are the biggest scam ever

[fierce python]

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[dusky terrace]

@fierce python should i get geisen? or hes not really used and i just should focus my arca stuff on fire

[fierce python]

if you can get him without spending other resources just do it

[dusky terrace]

well...what "other" resources. evolite sure. the rest is things i could put towards the fire flbs or moon. mostly old arca stuff and buying astra and shit

[fierce python]

time

[dusky terrace]

im 80 astra off

i could buy that up with arcapts

but i should spend that on fire i think

if hes not really needed

i have like 90k arcapts

in crate

[fierce python]

his backline passive is still ok if your grid is ass

[dusky terrace]

my grid is m2

so

probably ass

[fierce python]

but 90k pts

just spend it on fire

[dusky terrace]

yeah

hes not a priority rn

i should get fire on track

then finish haase maybe

then i can do geisen

[fierce python]

you probably have 500 of these

[dusky terrace]

i know

i do

but i have ass grids

so i never did them

cause it's too slow

my water is very very deadge

[fierce python]

full auto all of them that's a decent chunk of mats

[dusky terrace]

with m2 water

jesus

gimme a grid and a team

and let's see

[fierce python]

show your water roster

gotta start somewhere

[dusky terrace]

plus base haas

ah no shes in there too

okay

juuten only on mlb so i didnt include them

[fierce python]

Europa/Payila/Gab

[dusky terrace]

aub grid?

[fierce python]

[dusky terrace]

mh?

md?

[lilac mountain]

Manadiver

[dusky terrace]

with opus mh ig

[lilac mountain]

sicne you dont have FLB haas for street king

yeah opus MH

[fierce python]

it's ends up a loop of oh I can't kill fire shit >I can't kill water shit > I can't kill earth shit > so on

[dusky terrace]

oh god it has CA key

[old quarry]

I was wondering why you thought your grid was that bad with m2 water

I am wondering no longer

[dusky terrace]

well

this is m2 water

what did u expect it to look like?

[lilac mountain]

"m2" nowadays used schrodingers

[dusky terrace]

oh yeah

no

do i look like i grinded fkin diaspora?

xd

i tried

my dirt is so ass

i barely made it thru my hosts

so i gave up

caim titan just doesnt hold up at all there

[old quarry]

but aub was always a very sad grid

[dusky terrace]

so now my plan is to get my fire on track

[old quarry]

I know, I played it

[dusky terrace]

then i can ignore water

and take it from there

fire updated

then farm tia for m3

then go dirt

dark is surviving on agnoize pns grid

light surviving on harsi and whatnot

[old quarry]

just do your daily hosts for now

[dusky terrace]

that was my plan

but for now i need to get fire done cause omg you have 500 sextants

yea i do but i have a shit ass grid

[fierce python]

just do it

give like 5 gold bars too

[dusky terrace]

which i could use to make vroon

[keen osprey]

that's 1 and 2/3rds of a weapon

it's just magna 3 time for you

[dusky terrace]

oh right does gab dagger slot into this?

i forgot

no right?

or eh

yes

maybe

it's a harmo

[fierce python]

"premium" magna

[dusky terrace]

i could take out the uh

xuanwu mace

for it

or the bow

i could tix a 2nd gone and go vroon

hahaha

actually going vroon would speed up my arca grind for fire

[old quarry]

maybe I should do some of that farming myself

[dusky terrace]

ah no i should take out the grani bow

i think

for the gab dagger

ahhhh

why did i have to roll 2 damn yatimas

i wouldnt even be thinking about vroon without that

but now i cant fully shake the feeling that i should just go for it

especially with water gw coming up

one step closer

[scenic creek]

its one of your sources of evolites and gold bars

so do farm it from time to time

[fierce python]

mark of the seasonal

[dusky terrace]

kather wwyd

vroon is not the play is it

i hate when decisions are tied to time gahh

[old quarry]

you have the grid for vroon no? Just lacking the HL

[fierce python]

if you have all the bricks and weapons do it, if you're half-assing it don't bother

[old quarry]

The big issue as I understand is that Ariel wants to do HL and hasn't got wambrellas

[fierce python]

stick to m3

[dusky terrace]

honestly

the "only" hl thing i have to do with water rn

is mugen

[keen osprey]

250 vroon
committed to 150 wamdus
2 exalto
2 wambrella
1-2 taisai
1 galilei
1-2 gab dagger

COMMIT

[dusky terrace]

vroon is 230, wamdus 150 can be done needs 2 stones tho, exalto check, wambrellas can be thrashes , 1-2 taisai check, galilei check, 1 gab dagger check (can get a 2nd from grand tix but i'd rather get 2nd fire exalto)

[old quarry]

manifesting a free grand selector on anni so I could commit to 2 exalto

[keen osprey]

fr gimme another grand tix for anni

this shit was amazing

my agni is complete thanks to it

[scenic creek]

[keen osprey]

😭

[dusky terrace]

so without wambrella, dont bother

[scenic creek]

another grand selector...would be nice

[dusky terrace]

is what ur saying

[keen osprey]

well wambrella only for HL but it's like if ur making a primal grid what's the point if ur not gonna take it to endgame content

when magna does all the easy stuff just fine

[old quarry]

Idk what's going all but I can't get chase chars on Winter roulette at all

3 years of duds

[dusky terrace]

well if the ass magna grid above can get me thru replicard then i dont need vroon rn

[old quarry]

Well I get everything in Summer and anni so it can't just be my luck

[dusky terrace]

mugen tho. no way this works

[scenic creek]

aside from the first day my roulette rolls for leg has been heartbreakingly ass 😦

[keen osprey]

im annitixing s raziel anyways

can play earth magna with her comfortably

[old quarry]

I rolled 270. The only thing of not I got was Wilnas(don't have S.Silva)

[old quarry]

I am thinking between S.raziel, C.Zoi and Tefnut

[fierce python]

you can probably daily host Levi M3 for 20 days (until M3) and get a decent dent on m3 water

[keen osprey]

c zoi if u wanna run hexa and luci 0 with light

s raziel for overall best

tefnut dont bother

[dusky terrace]

with the crap ass caim titan

yikes

i mean i can try

[old quarry]

Yes tefnut looks the most replaceable. And Zoi would be my last peace for Kengo team

[keen osprey]

c zoi just makes the choco team for light and it's extremely comfy

for HL

strongest ougi team i nthe game

her weapon is also amazing for HL Zeus

[fierce python]

it's probably going fast since people are grinding for water gw; get carried then collect your host chest

like old m1

[dusky terrace]

alr gimme a team

lemme fetch roster

[fierce python]

doesn't matter just host

[old quarry]

Honestly I should have tixed her but oh well

I can tix S.Raziel instead in summer if nothing better comes along for dark or water

[keen osprey]

it's gonna be p much impossible to make anything better than the top end of charas in Water

there's already payila, gab, europa, yatima, haaselia

all staff to boot

and if they do it's going to be for very marginal gain

[old quarry]

yes water is too stacked rigt now so I am not worried

But dark kind of lacking in seasonals

[keen osprey]

dark has like infinite seasonals but still not a good ougi comp

oh speaking of titan caim

[dusky terrace]

yes yes i know it's dead

[keen osprey]

i fucking used titan caim to farm diaspora when i came back into the game

LMAO

until magna 3 earth came out

[dusky terrace]

i'll farm m3 dirt

too

so many damn things

[fierce python]

Sabrina/Olivia/X

[keen osprey]

uriel

strong chara for burst

[dusky terrace]

all buttons full auto letsgo

surely it's good for something

[keen osprey]

but i did use a manual set up to farm diaspora with titan caim

was cope but it got the job done in 3 turns

[fierce python]

Like I said it gets you started

[old quarry]

Is Dispora tier raids still alive?

[keen osprey]

yeah im farming them rn

[old quarry]

I am going to unlock them soon

[keen osprey]

coz i need mats to mk2 things :d

[old quarry]

I will need to farm agastia for dark

[dusky terrace]

zerk or glory

[fierce python]

w/e works

[dusky terrace]

and the 3rd was X

hmm

should be a sword user

ig

[fierce python]

Uriel is fine

[dusky terrace]

ah uriel

right

okay

alr the ass water grid with that team cleared in 4t

well 3t and 3% hp

but i didnt put in the gab dagger

right

[fierce python]

I see

[dusky terrace]

kather what do i remove for the gab dagger

[fierce python]

try removing the mace

[dusky terrace]

should i bar it

[fierce python]

nah

[lilac mountain]

PNS type weapons only get barred if you are 100% going primal that ele

[dusky terrace]

eventually i will

[fierce python]

then no

[dusky terrace]

well i would now but yall said it's not worth

cuz thrashers cant sub for wambrellas in mugen

is what i understood

oh wait i could put in the gw sword too

over something

maybe the xeno ex wep

[lilac mountain]

For mugen HP total and ougi looping ability matters most if you're going manual kengo

Most people have FA grids so it should clear eventually regardless

[dusky terrace]

kengo

i was going

paladin

the last time i tried it

[lilac mountain]

Ahhh

[dusky terrace]

with mlb haase frontline

and the aub gird

[cunning mist]

The pally FA comp should still work

[old quarry]

what are water ougi chars this day?

[dusky terrace]

probably dog

fed maybe

[fierce python]

depends on the fight

[dusky terrace]

shalem also works

for shorter shit it was dog fed shalem the last time i played

[old quarry]

I kind of thought about doing water kengo

But would need fediel I guess

[dusky terrace]

how do you look up modifiers on wiki again

i forgot

as in how much atk ex is

per sl

weapon skills thats it

[safe bough]

Ngl I forget to change my opus off of CA for years

Probably already cap ca without

[fierce python]

light is fun to use lmao

[dusky terrace]

oh wait should i be using bubz main over levi in replicard?

[cunning mist]

Depends on what you want.

[keen osprey]

light is the best

too fun

[dusky terrace]

bubz was better

i finally got it down to 3t

[torn turret]

plain damage omen 😔

[fierce python]

bubs.

[dusky terrace]

okay ik caim titan sucks

but i kinda slapped levi

hrunt is still hrunt ig

despite grid sucking

[keen osprey]

caim titan is still decent for burst

like it can farm diaspora

[dusky terrace]

mhm

[keen osprey]

it can farm m3

[fierce python]

it's still fine for that level

[dusky terrace]

thats good

thats all i need it for rn

[torn turret]

ye i know but when i do the raid
i just get it again and again

[dusky terrace]

i'll farm together m3

for hl

and replicard ofc

to farm for moon

oh right i should test it

[fierce python]

your grid starts being a liability at hexa

[keen osprey]

^

for Hexa u just main one ele and farm all the draconic upgrades that way

then u can branch out

[fierce python]

I cleared subhl with caim titan

with one extra slot

[dusky terrace]

oh very comfy 2t xeno cocy

okay

[keen osprey]

[torn turret]

also huh
usually when i run this setup i do rage III and a little pick me up as subskills to make cosmos and zoi cycle faster
is running smth else like youre doing worth?

[keen osprey]

ifi t's kengo he doesn't really use anything different

it's just the usual like

no more doubt, pandemonium, and a +1

[torn turret]

pande isnt rly needed with zoi atp

[keen osprey]

o if it's chrys

[torn turret]

o its chrys

[keen osprey]

it's just those ye

free nook with astrapste since the team ougi loops

[dusky terrace]

okay

whats the wind burst team

now that im making the burst teams for replicard

naru something something

[fierce python]

we don't know, people are cooking with the Raphael weapon

[dusky terrace]

ah

okay

that can wait

no rush for wind shit

but

[torn turret]

current wind burst is manual so

[dusky terrace]

oh

is it

it's still uh

whatshername

[torn turret]

s.korwa

[dusky terrace]

old ass summer woman

that

still on korwa naru then

clicky af

[torn turret]

well people might find more stuff

[fierce python]

ex+ last GW

NM100

[torn turret]

i have like a 3t FA for the Vohu Manah Militis which is

exactly the above ye

but idk if you have the chars
or even Exo Pelion

[keen osprey]

ariel just came back so no exo sword

[fierce python]

probably doesn't have enough for UM skills either

[torn turret]

itd probably be 2t if i had m3 done

also @fierce python
does chrys also consistently do 4c every turn like kengo does w/ c.zoi

[fierce python]

kengo does 4c consistently

more

[torn turret]

next question
If i had to flb one of the wind evokers
it should be katze first right

[keen osprey]

katze 10000%

core wind unit

[fierce python]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPCqVUJ-W4

[keen osprey]

CHRISTMAS ZOI THE 🐐

[flint blade]

Is Xeno event still rotating?

[torn turret]

Exo is

The normal xenos are permanently available

[narrow ledge]

me want dark exo staff raaaahhhh

[flint blade]

So many knickknack academy stuff asks me to clear Xeno battles. I'm glad it's available permanently

[torn turret]

wanpanned 100 levi mares today to get the dagger from quests
0 weapon drops 😔

got 1 flb dagger now at least

[keen osprey]

PogO

huge step

[narrow ledge]

I can "carry" levi M3 now

well, if i'm lucky enough like this run, i should be able to go with 0 revive

next run somehow loses at 30% HP remaining

tho next run got me reminded that i have Uriel summon and he gives charge bar, so i slap quick summon on him

prolly got timing messed up somewhere

fun to watch Shushuku floating around red HP bar and still surviving up to the point when Alexiel stacked up 10 crystal blades

[keen osprey]

m3 levi farmer

[dusky terrace]

wait wait

wambrellas only have small hp

so like....koi could work there for hp

thrasher could work

yes im still not over the varuna idea

cause the only thing that held me back was the lack of wambrellas but with these i could work around it

@old quarry thoughts?

[keen osprey]

wambrellas provide more than just hp :d

[old quarry]

hl without wambrella is cope

hell you need 3 wambrellas sometimes

[dusky terrace]

well some ppl said that wambrellas are barely used now

outside FA gw

[dusky terrace]

yeah i know but the question was "how do you survive hl without hp in that grid"

originally

[old quarry]

what are they replacing wambrealla with in hl?

[dusky terrace]

koi

and well. yatima bows replaced them mostly

[old quarry]

your hp will be so very low

[dusky terrace]

but

koi has the same hp

as wambrella

[steep gulch]

koi doesnt gives defense

[old quarry]

sure but wambrella gives more than just hp

[steep gulch]

wambrella is more then just hp

[keen osprey]

thats what i said

[dusky terrace]

THRASHER TIME

[steep gulch]

thats garisson which means your hp needs to stay low to work. in contrast wambrella works at every hp amount

[dusky terrace]

lemme get the answer to what they use in hl if not wambrella

mjolnir can be any crit wep and pos wep can be celestial

is what they said

[keen osprey]

just looks like a waste to me

and opus mainhand implies playing manadiver in HL which if you're not experienced is not the best idea in the world

[dusky terrace]

probably they are experienced

idunno

gahh stupid varuna

[keen osprey]

coz this kind of grid implies monkasteering with Payila

in HL

[dusky terrace]

yeah they said it's based around payila

[keen osprey]

yep

not advised as a newbie to HL

[dusky terrace]

oidnfkajbnflas

i just wanna escape stupid m3

truly

this is all what it's about

[keen osprey]

21 gold bars vs completely f2p gigachad m3 water

[dusky terrace]

21 bars vs a million years

i have too much shit to grind

and i dont have the time or the will

[steep gulch]

just do your daily hosts. thats it and you eventually get there. if you don't have the will for even that then gbf is honestly not the game for you.

[dusky terrace]

i know gbf is not for me

thats why i quit

over and over again

it's been uh

oh dear

almost 7 years

wow

thats long

[keen osprey]

titan caim can farm diaspora and levi m3 it's a ezpz

[dusky terrace]

whats the honor for blue chest?

[keen osprey]

did my Luci 0 clear and ran Hexa with f2p grid xd

diaspora 4m
levi it's like 1.2m or smth

[dusky terrace]

i have legit

nothing

from that grid

ah levi is easy then

i hit that 1.2m very fast

[keen osprey]

being down 21 gold bars is the one that's actually gonna take a million years to get back :d

[dusky terrace]

levi chest is 1t literally

okay

i could probably reduce buttons too

[keen osprey]

people just 1 button it with rising force

need golden knight and like transcended okto tho

with flb catura

[dusky terrace]

yea yea i dont hvae that

i'll just hrunt my way thru

[keen osprey]

works

[dusky terrace]

gotta figure out buttons tho

and something for yugu m3

guess korwa naru. thats only 1 manual button anyway

to put korwa s1 on naru

or something

or i can try to let it go and just throw in the vgrim ewi bampi trio

and fa

and something happens

[torn turret]

actually whats a normal water m3 non-ougi grid these days

[keen osprey]

depends on what you're using the grid for

there is no one grid fits all

like example if you mean just FA'ing with the usual Manadiver comp i run this with echo opus

[torn turret]

right world harps exist
ill have to get that at some point

[dusky terrace]

and so it begins

[keen osprey]

big yoog

[torn turret]

yuguflex

[dusky terrace]

ooh right i remember

why i dont have ultima axe

cause fking subhl

😅

and fire sucking at it

i assume in the past year it did not get any easier

and it's still finding rooms

blablabla

[torn turret]

in the past year we got a free ULB Ultima

from anni

[dusky terrace]

i know boo

i used it on katana

but in terms of accessing the raid itself

it's still the tedious coop room setup thing?

or ppl carry so hard nowadays u can just go in and something happens

[old quarry]

the new even system lets you get a 5* axe wihtout doing Subaha

[dusky terrace]

heh?

ah

the pages shit?

with 2 subaha mat

xd

[old quarry]

yes. you need 250

[dusky terrace]

for 2 mats

so you need

2500

total

for a 5*

wait no

even more

20 is just the uncap

+7 for the key

so 3500

thats 190 page per event so it needs 18 events

for one uncap

xd

so thats what

a year?

possibly more

thats cray cray

[old quarry]

well we got some free keyes but yes.

obv they don't want you to completly skip the grind

[dusky terrace]

well they shoulda made the raid less stupid

and less reliant on player cooperation 🙂

[old quarry]

yeh idk, I am not going to do it myself.

Easier to just farm celestial katana

And use it in grid

It should only take me 2 gw or 1 gw+1 talle of eternals

[dusky terrace]

celestial is not really a replacement for ultima

cuz ultima is your seraphic

[old quarry]

Well I have the free ultima. I need either ultima axe or Celestial katana to satisfay hades grid requirements

the 4 weapons of the same type

Or I can spark another shalem axe I suppose

(Or buy Eresh)

[dusky terrace]

well

i dunno what other option i have

if i get the 2nd exalto

then my lof wont work unless i find a damn axe

[old quarry]

It's time to farm subaha

[dusky terrace]

naur

[old quarry]

But yes idk. Maybe I will use pages for dragonic weapon instead

[ancient imp]

Pls fix this ass grid

[torn turret]

pretty sure gbf wiki technically even has solo setups

[dusky terrace]

yes im sure

[old quarry]

the good old have the grid ready to solo the fight you need to do to get the grid?

[dusky terrace]

exactly

😄

it's always like that

[old quarry]

But yes, I've looked at the raid and obv it's impossible to pub or leach

So that's the door closed for me

[torn turret]

nah

[dusky terrace]

oh thats pog

ur doign well

[torn turret]

oh this isnt mine but

this is a solos etup

[dusky terrace]

yes ofc have the world harp done

why not

[torn turret]

nothing you need is from subhl or later for this

[dusky terrace]

yeah true

it just needs a full m3

thats even newer content than subhl

xd

[old quarry]

7 m3. you going to be in the mines for a long time

[dusky terrace]

okay okay

just let me get my fire evoker flbs

then i'll worry abt the rest

i still have

uh

and autorepeat would be so nice

[old quarry]

feh pass woul unironicaly sell like crazy here

[dusky terrace]

wat

[old quarry]

feh got a bunch of long asked for qol but to acess them you need to buy feh pass

[dusky terrace]

what is feh

ah

fire emblem

[old quarry]

heroes yes. including the autorepeat function

[dusky terrace]

i'd buy yea

no question

xd

just turn it off for gw

so theres no pvp abuse

[old quarry]

but tbh i think auto would prob crash the servers

[dusky terrace]

then give a sweep for replicard stuff

for the xeno bosses

LET ME SWEEP IT

oh good i looked at the evoker flb mats again

330 idean XDDDD

my fking gooood

[torn turret]

its more

you also need to get all the Domains

[dusky terrace]

yeah

this is nuts

okay so

i think astral

is my solution

to the fire grid problem

im looking at my lj and md grids

[torn turret]

whats the issue?
just not enough dmg?

[dusky terrace]

no