Key things to know to make electro swing?

[silk heath]

I'm looking for tips for making electro swing. Since I'm posting here I obviously wanna do it a bit like camellia. I can't find a single good free horn sample library and the synth stabs used are a complete mystery to me. Any advice would be appreciated.

[fiery elk]

Do 4/4 kick (snare) pattern

then 1/8 notes before the kick

this is the dubstep swing drop part I guess

if you want to do like camellia

[silk heath]

i dont want the dubstep switch he does in his electro swing songs

just groovy electro swing

this is the kind of stuff i want to do

https://youtu.be/HOmWz1UiSuQ?t=193

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[bitter wolf]

there are no good free brass libraries for big band esque play

brass horns are some of the most difficult to emulate correctly along with electric guitar

since both mostly rely on what we do to them as humans - different breathing techniques and what not for horns, and different ways to strum/pick at a guitar plus all the bending and shit

but from what I know, a lot of electro swing songs are made using samples from real, old big band jazz records

think future funk but big band swing

so everything except the drums and bass are sampled

[silk heath]

ah i see

that answers a lot of my questions

off to sample libraries i guess

[onyx prism]

Just create it yourself

[shut sail]

sinefactory's big band is great for swing n stuff like that

sounds as realistic as it gets for a completely free sample library. it even comes with different styles of play and dynamic too

sinefactory also has a jazz flute and a loose sounding piano, its seldom talked about but like their entire free catalogue is HOT . you'll find a lot of gems in sinefactory

[scarlet jay]

yeah, echoing what folks have said. there are now over 100 years of big band recordings to sample! there are tunes with breaks where the rhythm section drops out and it's just brasses and/or sax, which could be handy

Gypsy jazz pretty much never has drums, and in old recordings the upright bass is of course way out of the way of any kicks/subs you want to do.

Again still a very popular style with some hot bands out there. "Rhythm Future Quartet"? Well heck they are good but someone needs to put the 'Future' in it https://youtu.be/do1encCa5TU