#Looking for someone to help me after a long haitus

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half lily
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I have been gone for quite a while and am quite rusty. I need someone to help advice me on what I could be doing better now. Right now I also want to be more open with who I am using and try out new characters so I don’t really have a main. I am free from 6am-1am from thursday-sunday this week EST

blazing ibex
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I got you

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I came back from a long hiatus a month and a half ago so I think I can help

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Do you think Thursday 5 PM EST would work for you?

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@half lily

half lily
blazing ibex
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Oh yeah, that works for me actually

half lily
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Now?

blazing ibex
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Yea

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Yes

half lily
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Okay then

half lily
blazing ibex
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also did you want to VC or stick to messages, either works

half lily
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Stick to messages

blazing ibex
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I'm assuming you have comp stages set up?

half lily
blazing ibex
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also this first game is just to gauge your general level

half lily
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Its battlefield stage hazards off

half lily
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It just has good FF music

blazing ibex
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it's not the same

tawdry thicket
blazing ibex
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there's very slight differences

half lily
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Oh

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blazing ibex
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Midgar is slightly bigger in some areas

blazing ibex
tawdry thicket
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So like Samus dark Samus slight?

blazing ibex
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also the blast zones are different

half lily
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Okay I changed it off

tawdry thicket
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Or daisy peach slight

blazing ibex
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nah like a little more than that

blazing ibex
tawdry thicket
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So richter Simon slight

blazing ibex
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more

tawdry thicket
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Or we talking Marth lucina slight

blazing ibex
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higher plats, smaller blast zones, asymetrical top plat

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that kinda slight

half lily
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Okay way more rusty than I thought if I struggle to get a hit in like that

blazing ibex
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also btw with cloud specifically you have to be spacing your moves at the max range or cross me up with them

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most of lucinas moves are unsafe on shield

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so I can just up b them everytime

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actually nvm about the up b oos stuff

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all of your aerials are safe to do on shield except down air

half lily
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Yeah I keep accidentally buffering stuff

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Because Im rusty

blazing ibex
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yeah fair enough lol

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those were some good options off of ledge first and second stock

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I wasn't ready for them

half lily
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Old me was stupid. Had smash stick on robin moveset instead of a+b smash attack

blazing ibex
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you use ab smash attack?

half lily
blazing ibex
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oh wow, I didn't know that

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sick

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whoops

half lily
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I suck at approaching

blazing ibex
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I think you do play a little too scared imo

half lily
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Have to wait for you to do something every time

blazing ibex
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which is reasonable because you're rust

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I do think that there is a lack of confidence in your gameplan for sure

half lily
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Yeah

blazing ibex
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I think it was a little better that game but how comfortable would you say you are with corrin as a character?

half lily
blazing ibex
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that checks out actually

half lily
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Pre-quitting I knew what moves I should do

blazing ibex
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I noticed you were doing a ton of jab and grab and even pin a lot

blazing ibex
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I feel like you were missing out on a lot of damage potential by only using these options to punish or even approach

half lily
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Okay

blazing ibex
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versus using things like nair, landing fair, or down tilt

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not to say that the options you were doing were bad but just use them in moderation

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I will also say that you tend to trap yourself in shield a lot and don't commit to any defensive options

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in the corner

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At some point you have to try and hit me or roll away or spotdodge and then punish

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otherwise you'll just get ran over

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It's honestly just the same thing with every character, you play extremely risk averse. This can work but you need to be really good at playing risk averse to pull it off or you have to start taking more risks

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which one do you think you would want to do?

half lily
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But thing is I dont have my dlc downloaded rn so I have no minmin for it

blazing ibex
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Then you should ideally play a more risk averse character which lucina works perfectly for

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Ironically I feel like min min isn't the most risk averse character

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She has to commit to certain options at some point and you really have to be careful of it

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A huge part of playing more risk averse is knowing what options are safe and which ones aren't. A lot of Lucinas moves are safe but you still have to space them to avoid getting caught in a 50/50 on whether the opponent grabs or tries to punish you

half lily
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I did not know joker fsmash outranged my own

blazing ibex
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Yeah, you stick out your hand at the end and I lean really far forward with mine

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I'll do 2 more and then talk about some stuff after

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That counter offstage second stock was super smart

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good shit

half lily
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I was planning on up bing back onto stage

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But saw you countered

blazing ibex
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I think overall you started playing a lot more comfortably and you were able to start approaching more but the 3 main things I would take away/practice are:

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  1. Spacing your moves, practice hitting just the edge of your move on either CPUs or other real people, Ideally a little worse than you are so you can get a feel for spacing your moves effectively and at a range where they won't get punished
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  1. Watching high level footage of the characters you want to play. This will give you a great strarting point for what moves you should be doing in situations/what moves are really good in neutral or to start combos. Things like that
half lily
blazing ibex
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  1. I would encourage you to play a character that requires good spacing to be effective, take Marth for example who forces you to space well because of the tipper mechanic. I think that would be a good fit to get the hang of spacing more. Once your Marth ends up getting better, so will your spacing
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blazing ibex
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yeah

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I thought it was usually the other way around

half lily
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I can see why pros do stuff but then I have a hard time executing it in my own games

tawdry thicket
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I mean yeah

blazing ibex
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Yeah I feel that one. Something that I suggest is trying to implement one new thing at a time

tawdry thicket
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Mostly it comes down to doing things in training mode

blazing ibex
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Like if you see a player doing a cool combo that you didn't know existed, practice it and then try to hit it in a real match

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or if you see someone using a lot of a certain move in neutral, try to do that thingin neutral a lot more in your next matches

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It helps to focus on just one thing at a time so you don't get overwhelmed and then default to your old gameplan

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I will also say that when you're trying to implement new things, you might lose to people you wouldn't normally lose to and that's completely fine

half lily
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Okay. Thank you @blazing ibex

blazing ibex
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