#General advice, feedback, and gameplay

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void panther
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Who are you requesting? @short nova

What is your time zone? Mountain Daylight Time.

What specifically do you need help with? Would like some general advice and feedback to improve my gameplay. understand what I need to work on and figure out what I'm doing wrong and what I'm doing right

When are you typically available? After school Mon, Tues, Fri, after ~5:30PM and also saturdays

How long have you been playing the game for? Been playing since ~ 2020, seriously since 2022. Have over 1250 hours, but lots of it was pre-seriousness

Can I VC? (optional) Yes, not exactly preferable but yes nonetheless.

short nova
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With your schedule I'm not gonna be available this week

void panther
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just let me know when you are available next and I'll see what I can do

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I can do 11 am est

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That’s 9 am MST

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alright

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@void panther on second thought, I don't think I can do monday due to the sheer amount of work I have to do. Can we move this to Tuesday?

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@void panther I FINISHED MY WORK

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lmk when you want the session

void panther
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or are you saying to let you know when tomorrow

short nova
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But tomorrow should also be fine

short nova
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@void panther I’ll be good for tomorrow at like, 5:00 pm est

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Which is your 3

void panther
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Okay

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short nova
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I did not see this and got my hair cut

void panther
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its ok

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short nova
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@void panther you free today?

void panther
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depends when I get home

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if that works for you?

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void panther
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alright, I'm ready when you are, @short nova!

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should i make an arena?

short nova
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Gimme like, 5 minutes

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arena is FSQ6J/123 @void panther

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k

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omw

short nova
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I'm gonna start with random for a few games

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Then I'll let you know what i've seen so far so we can work on it as we play

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I'll end it off with a bo5 with my main

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alr

short nova
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ryu down tilt carries

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nah it's just auto-turnaeound

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I respect the dair attempt

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lmao

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it kills me half the time

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but I'm aware of the risk reward

short nova
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Makes sense

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I jus be goin for it

short nova
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Inkling is tough to coach for me but I think i'm catching onto some general stuff

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Lemme gather my general thoughts rq

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also I did not realize wft ftilt sent upwards

short nova
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It's the back hit

void panther
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ah makes sense

short nova
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I think as Inkling it's already difficult to find a way in because her hitboxes aren't that long. She's fast but not really that fast. You need to utilize your movement, such as dashing back and forth to mix me up, spacing back airs on shield and even retreating with that move. It's ok to send out splat bombs but make sure it's safe to do so. Thankfully for me, Marth just runs under it so I get away with it

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Definitely use splat bomb to ledge trap/edge guard more

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Work on using down smash on ledge to 2 frame your opponents as it'll get some early kills

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short nova
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And abuse the living shit out of bair. That move is probably your best move 2nd to splat bomb

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I think the best time to use splat bombs there are when I go low

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Otherwise, i'd try to throw in an empty hop when I go high to force and air dodge out of me

void panther
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not to brag, but i can usually get good splat bomb snipes if im already in a position to do so

short nova
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If you aren't confident with hitting a back air, go with something like a fair

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I'm not talking about snipes

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I'm talking about conditioning

void panther
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oh

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so like splat bombs make them 'move first' so then im able to see what they like to do

short nova
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For example, if you hold back when sending out the splat bomb, it doesn't travel too far and hugs the ledge. Or it lands onto the stage and now I have to time my get up

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then they think its okay to go around and BAM

short nova
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Exactly

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It's the same idea as samus down airs or even sephiroth neutral b

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Don't be afraid to do down tilt on shield either to poke

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That can be difficult to do because again, stubby hitbox that could be parried

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yeah

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if im parried on it its a really free punish

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i do like to try and shield pressure with like a jab and dtilt

short nova
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f tilt is also not too bad

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Pushes them back

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But be careful when throwing out a move on shield

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m true

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I'll play the ditto

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yeah my only really safe on shield moves are like bomb, shot, and bair

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noooo

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dang it

short nova
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I like the landing up air

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But something that i'm getting away with a lot are my air dodges out of disadvantage

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if you land up air 1 it means upsmash

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short nova
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I don't know if you saw how I played, but when I got a hit in the air, I waited for you to land and punish with a grab or rapid jab

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i keep remembering that you've been doing that after the up-throw

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mhm

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but i have been recognizing it

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thats something i personally realise i need to work on

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cause i can recognize my opponents habits

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i just dont know how to punish it

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I've been there

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because i feel like if i up throw and do nothing then obviously they wont do the same thing

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I get away with it with my main because I have 50 projectiles i send out to cover a lot of options

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i assume

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mhm

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Your aerials can cover a few air dodges

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Like nair

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yeah

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Or wait for the air dodge and up air

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IF they jump, they put themselves in a bad position to get juggled again

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i cant wait for some reason

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You want to send out a hit box at any given moment

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That or you aren't patient enough

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Which may also be an issue

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Personally, I usually can't wait because there is a chance that my combo hits

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Then sometimes it doesn't and I put myself in a worse position

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That's just muscle memory in a nutshell, and I think online gives you that habit

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bomb

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Almost killed me

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WHAT

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i saw my diamond move to the left

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why did it still kill me

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Still happens even if you air dodge in

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If air dodges stopped momentum completely, that'd be insane

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Oh

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i just held left

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Then it's hurtbox shift

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what the heck

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airdodges also shift your character to the other direction first

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Mhm

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so they can kill you when normal di wouldnt

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I be air dodging there sometimes

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here let me just try ganon :)

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Like a scrub

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Sure

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weirdly enough

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aw man, my up air

short nova
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You jump early with inkling a lot when you get sent offstage

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But with ganon

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You like to recover low

void panther
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well two reasons

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I think it should be the opposite LMAO

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one, inkling basically makes it back no matter what, but she cant cover her recovery as well

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and two, i always try to save my jump as ganon

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even though i jump right before my up-b every time

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idk why

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aaaaand that's ganondorf moment

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such a shame too

short nova
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You do well to keep me on the ledge though

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Sending out the nairs there is smart to catch neutral get ups

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THen you add a drift back and you cover roll

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i was about to prove why i think ganon is better than dedede

short nova
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I mean

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Dedede is garbage

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But at least he can recover

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bleeeeeh

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RONALDO

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SIUUUUUUUUUUU

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the semi-spike came in clutch

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Yes it did

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If only I hit the jair

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NOO

short nova
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One of the di of all time

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hungrybox di

short nova
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Lemme do the ditto

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oh ok

short nova
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Yeah they never expect the tech

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YOU TECHED THAT?

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THE DI TOO

short nova
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You can't cheese me

void panther
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that wasnt cheese that was just a spike sadclout

short nova
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yo who turned on the microwave

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Ok well

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That was just unfortunate

void panther
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aughhh

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that makes me so mad

short nova
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One more in the ditto

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Then I'll do the bo5 with my main

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and you cant cheese me

short nova
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I tried the up b too LOL

void panther
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heck no

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Don't ask about that roll

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oof

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That game I just started to camp harder because of the bigger stage

void panther
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yeah

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ggs!

short nova
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Damn I should've saved these vods

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I'll save this one

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Once I get it posted we can review it

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Or I review it and send you the notes that i have

void panther
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oh youre so right

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i forgot

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can you also send me the last vod?

short nova
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Yeah ofc

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@void panther