#Sonic Coaching
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wdym
well ye am kinda fast like that ig
you too bro
@light lava lmk when u can play
i got the switch
to play through the XBOX!
Didn’t know you can do that
Anyways
This is what i meant by pressuring/ punishing my jump
Joker tries to dair sonic and misses
Sonic punishes with spindash
Ez 111% plus off stage
Sonic was far away enough to get the punish while being completely safe from his attacks
Thats the spacing you want
He was also quick about it too
Look how fast he made it come out
Quick and easy punish
I see
and thats basically what we were working on
Yeah
got it
Here in the first part, sonic doesn’t get the punish as his opponent falls out of it
So what he does is spindash back back to where he was
Jumps and spindash
He does this so he can regain center stage again
And not being pressured on ledge himself
Bc if he didn’t do that, he wouldn’t been stuck on ledge, little room to run in
Compared to jokers side of the stage, which is alot of room
And again he catches joker jump
Quick full charge down b punish
Ur charge should be as quick
To catch
When u miss spindash, you don’t always wanna keep trying to hit ur opponent. It gets predictable and you could get hit for it
You wanna either return back to neutral or get a clever reversal
Either way prioritize which is better to do
Bc if you keep going for reversals ppl are gonna see that and punish you for it
If ppl see you trying to gain back stage control all the time they’ll punish u for it
Joker was actually close to hitting sonic
So he did see it coming
Gotta watch out for those
But that means the joker would have to jump
And commit
And if he keeps doing that
You can punish HIM
Punish his landing with yk what
And be quick ab it
React quick, release it quick, charge quick
snap
🫰
should be like that
got it
That’ll be it for now
Get some sleep already
and keep practicing those combos
Tomorrow
And remember when we talked ab

Send any vids of ur games i’ll vod review them when i get the chance
igu if i can get them bro
@drifting anchor winning all my matches
@drifting anchor
Won Majority of Matches
me and this kirby went back and fowarth
i just had to start playing defensive cause was playing aggressive asf
Me and the player went 3-3
I got Varsity play ins Tommorow and Thursday (Determine whos on varsity)
And there prioritizing not losing stocks cause it gets us points
Damn fast ass improvement
Proud of you man
At first you didn’t even w once
Now look at you, scoring dubs
Soon i think you’ll be ready to step up ur gaming in #📈│intermediates-mm
It’ll be harder tho
Its gonna feel like you didn’t make any progress again
But don’t let it get to you
You’ll over come it, and you proved it
100%
im determined
first i gotta become the best player in my area
then the state
and then ill take everything else by storm cause i really want to do this for a living its fun
Glad to hear that man
Thats why we here
Both of us want it
So we’ll get it in time
Keep practicing, we can play later when am doing working out and eating
@ me in 3 hours
@drifting anchor is there anytime u could help me with my sonic on edge guarding
if ur down
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Sure man, ping me again in like 3 hours
Aight
also thx for the vid
fs
Yk what to do then
yerp
@drifting anchor im getting fucked 😭🤣🤣🤣
@drifting anchor u ready now
Gimmie an extra hour
@remote agate i’ll play you first
Hm
maybe sometime this weekend
yall can go first
aight
Gg
I didn’t swap characters just letting u know
Sonic playstyle is heavily bait and punish, the fact that i keep getting in so easy means your probably not considering my overshooting
It’s something to keep in mind especially in the ditto
If you can catch me before i go to you tho your good
You also shouldn’t run away when u have the advantage, push it at a safe distance
aight
You can punish my landings with spincharge and pressure them by continuingly charging them
And for your edge guarding, it wasn’t bad
Keep me off the stage when i tried to go back in sometimes
k
If your not confident enough to go out and edge guard or if yk am gonna make it back, return to stage
Better to have stage control over trying to ledge guard
You also shouldn’t be doing too much of those uairs for ledge
You do alot of those when am just outside the range of it
If i catch on i will f smash that
speaking of f smash
Probably don’t hold it when ur trying to read my roll
Find out the options i do most
And punish
aight
Gg
gg
Careful with the homing attacks too
Doing a bit of those on ledge
You don’t wanna do that constantly especially on high percents
Be careful with dash attack too
imi here
Yeye
reaching far across these new frontiers
Let me ditto him after @drifting anchor
Gg
gg
Alr
Thats a rip lmao
💀
I can play fox if u want

Jeeez
I tried to save u
nah
@vague crystal
yeh
Have you ever done the “honest Sonic” training regiment?
o u saw wut I was trying to do
i suk
uhhhhhhh
oooooooof
@vague crystal you gotta work on ur combo game, alot of the times you vux either falled out
There were also some situations were i felt like you could’ve kept it going
aight
@remote agate bro you stood there while he was shielding
You had ur opportunity to grab but you missed it 
Mania if I remember correctly was at like
176
skittles you playing?
alr
So i can individually test yall
stop ditto pls
uhhhhh
Gg
Still gotta work on that reaction speed
But its gone faster vux
I can tell
@vague crystal go sonic too
bro just lag out?
I’ll switch after this
my xbox turned off nvm :slull
Gg
gg
ngl from looking at it
You couldve combod
spindash
into fair
let me play skittles
Should be able to W this
I’m scared
I’m gonna die at 2
trust
DAMNIT I JUST SAID DONT DO THAT
💀
W!
KILL EM MANIA
DAMNIT
NO
FUCK
ahhhhhhh
Gg
Another thing
Mix up ur timing with spindash
Like
I caught it more times then i should
Am ganon
Use your cancels
:/
Oh one more thing
Do Not
NOT
homing attack
On ledge
Like that
Consistently
aight
Mix it up
o yeh I gotta go after this round
For the most part tho
You did a good job at keeping me away
@remote agate thats how you wanna play
Space away
ye ik
And bait and punish
You gonna spectate?
maybe cuz u panic
Gg
Idk man
Alr this time some new things
You spindash way to close to me
Kinda like vux
Like you do it in front of my face charging
So i just dash attack that
Difference between you 2 tho is that your doing the wrong spindash
Ye you did actually
w
You spincharge when you should be spindashing for the invincibility frames
Am assuming bc you really wanted to kill me
Thats another thing
You have to play a bit patient, should be wanting to make me whiff stuff
Which i could potentially do alot
Ideally if you want your opponents to approach you more you have to take the stock lead
This applies to all characters but applies to sonic the most
Bc its so strong with him
And you still HA when you shouldn’t have…
k
And lastly
For ur ledge guarding
I recommend using spring to kill
Especially with ganon
It was a bit hard to do it against me since i was dodging them
But ideally that’s something you should practice
Did you save these clips?
yeh
dub
alr so
For edge guarding me, i want you to focus on why didn’t you get to hit me off stage
And what could’ve you done better
If you have trouble send the Vod here
I now realize I coulda just done spin dash to bair when u get close to stage
Ye see
also I can do one more match
N5LJQ/147
how
alr
wait the password is 147
but I’m gonna close it after this game
No
so should @remote agate just make an arena so when we’re done u could just join him
Unfortunately not
aight
Gg
ale since that game was fast I can do one more
💀
💀

Careful when trying to attack me like that
he spared u
aight now I gotta go
Gg
alr
gg
So
This is specifically in the ganon mu btw
You dont wanna hold shield
He will POP it like a pimple
Anyways you did a good job first stock for spring killing me
Omw
: D
I did something
aight
Gg
gg
?
?
no
gg
u hate to see it
show me
nvm
mis inpurt
you wanna make sure your not on a platform
ye
i mean above
bc more likely then not it'll whidd
ff
ah got ya
alr one more game
then we training
gg
gg
again
alr
again
gg
gg
gg
tips
ur still trying to jump on into stage
yeah
And DI to stage too
well its all ab knowing what am gonna do
havent you notice ive been shielding?
yea
you can grab out of spindash like that?
if your quick enough and close enough
gotchu
wait
when i shield i think ur either gonna spindash me or attack me
but i react really fast
spindash to grab is NOT true'
its just to condition
gotchu
they dum asf then\
gg
one more
then training sess
okay
so you start thinking again
💀
gg
alr
Characters so weird bruh
training sess time
1 hit is 60 damage
no but one hit is all it takes
💀
alr
what we practiced yesterday
we'll be doing that
alr
gg
im not thinking
try to stay focus
not bad
gg
couldnt get in much
alr
now this time
no more side b
down b
i want you to be quick
what?
its diff tho
bc down b is where you get the damage
and so far you been doing good with side b
but now with down b more
you can still side
b
but i want more down b
mb
its fine
noitced some things anyways
so
you should work on doing more down b fair when ur near ledge
this is so you can gain stage control while getting ur op offstage
and down b is a bit more different from side b
if you use it defensively i recommend you jump away and down b so you keep a proper spacing for me
and make sure you cancel when you need to
dont dash into my up smashes
okay
gg
2 habits ur doing
trying to jump into stage
and
dash attacking on ledge
watch out for those
gg
thats the point\
down b is offensive
also
yk what nah i'll show you later when were done
lets continue
ok
np
^
lets do one more
i gotta do some stuff tonight
ok
ggs
gg
nice whiff punish
ty
keep doing stuff like that
do you think
punish my mistakes
we can do 1 real fight
gg
np
and dw ab mus right now
ur still new to the game
which means your still adjusting
and trust me if you think ganon is hard there is so much shit thats painfully worse
at least ganon is fun to fight
the matchups i hate
are
Ganon
Sephiiroth
Captain Falcon
Young link
everyone else im coo with
lol
💀
nah ur gonna really hate kazuya
and luigi
okay
keep practing those combos
ye drop it here
i'll review it when i get the chance
alr
Game 1
Game 2
@drifting anchor
This was whenever you told me to play an intermediate
studying sonix tn
Idk if its very good to do this
But i think im going to skip intermediates and go straight into comp players @drifting anchor
Cause i can get my ass whooped and still learn
while making me better in general
Ideally you wanna fight ppl who are slightly better than you, bc if your getting destroyed its kinda hard to keep track
Of what their doing
i mean while we were fighting
he was giving me tips
which is whenever i started to kill him
i was gettin destroyed 💀
VOD Review
Still haven’t saw it yet
Gonna be hella busy today
Maybe be able to game today
gotchu
@drifting anchor losses
came from me killing myself
7-4
I beat Gano
with 2 stocks to spare
by hitting and running
💀
Not bad 7 Ws
Something to work on
we got another One tmr and then they will pick
Top 5 and we will go compete
ik im one
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3 sonics is crazy 💀
nah fr
Definitely
mhm
Keep working on ur recovery
5-7 today
Lost to ppl i 2 stocked
for homing attacking off the stage
💀💀💀
yuh
If we can VC and screenshare or sum
and watch that would be coo
I’ll try to clear my schedule more this week but for now just keep vod reviewing
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gotchu
LMAO
Getting better
I can play rn if you can
@compact vault am usually around this time
at 9:00am
Pacific
I got someone
i want u to play
Imma try to coach him while he plays
but imma get off soon i just want u to play him rq
💀 this is IRL
am confused
Ganon or sonic
Alr
Gg
Gg
Gg
I see
he said gg
Mb that was a missinput
My brain died for like a second
And i taunted
Ggs
No disrespect
Gg
idk why but it feel like none of my inputs work
whenever i play you
no funny shi 💀
Well ur kinda throwing laggy options at me
U started covering my jumps so i just shield
i tried to nair
and it was giving me jab attacks
idk sum for me to work on
I do it fine in locals and then wifi it just goes to shambled ig
LMFAO
Gg
he said gg
Gg
Getting saucy with the homing attacks
ngl i got worse with sonic ever since i hoped on Aegis 💀
Ageis is so easy to learn smh
._.
Bro 💀
I be down airing n shi for combos
unrustify
And ur advantage needs work too
Gg
gg
No
Thats whats called a trade
When u trade hits
For me it was a good trade
For u not so much
Got u
Gg
gg also
Ye got greedy
yeah
that is a problem i have is getting to greedy and fishing for a kill
wiether thats Aegis, Sonic, Or Ness
mhm
Coaching tomorrow?
Or later today in this case
Wait whats your timezone?
Pacific
i think its more of a Mentality thing
than anything looking back at it
@drifting anchor
Could i use
or lemme send you the video
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i see alot of bait and punish also
at the same time
Really movement based
Indeed
So im going to stress alot of Movement
because i also feel flat footed whenever i fight sometimes
one day im grooving (or 1 match)
and the next im just stiff
learning that will elevate my gameplay tremendously
Dash dancing
feinting
i ct
ect*
Wtf is that
LMFAOOOOO
That ur controller?
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Im done playing patient and “Fundemental”
all its done is got me killed
i dead just got fucking 3 stocked off this
“Your to aggressive” Bullshit
going right back to it
my god 🤦🏾
@drifting anchor ive actually
lost the last 20 games
trying to listen to someone else’s advice
GSP went from +4mil to 2mil
holy shit
I’ll play soon
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@drifting anchor matches?
@remote agate bro did u really just remove the post...?
I spent like 30 minutes warming up and like, not doing work... to help u
That's like mad annoying
did u not tell me to make another one
Oh, bro I meant just fill one out in the already existing one
That's fine, I thought u were like dipping from the session
Gotta work on combo game again
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got a pro controller
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