#[✓1.17.15] Null shunting command queue spams NPRs

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smoky robin
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The auto save feature and manual saving does not create a new save file. Overwriting an existing save deletes it, without creating an upto date save.

Steps to reproduce:
Complete a normal save.

Wrong Behavior:
Save fails to complete, overwritten files are deleted and not replaced.

Map:
Wroclaw

I've attached the player log and save. Upon loading, there is a signal that has a ghost lock on, but I do not know if that is related.

After this save, the save feature fails, so no more game saves are successful.

📎 Player.log 📎 Wroclaw_Autosave_Wroclaw_137_00-00-00_autosave.mp.lz4 Wroclaw_Autosave_Wroclaw_137_00-00-00_autosave.png
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The image above is a preview image, which shows the ghosted signal that has locked the track.

swift matrix
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Autosave / Manual Save Failure

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grizzled kelp
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grizzled kelp
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i'm wondering how that happened?!

smoky robin
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I've no idea. I did look at the player.log to see if there is something I could do. I looked at all the shunting stuff, and deleted all commands, but no difference. I looked in the coach yard, and found a train in there. I pulled it out, but the shunting command button is not working

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I was able to manually move the train out, however

grizzled kelp
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yeah that train has one of it's commands as null that is why the shunting commands button is broken

smoky robin
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Ahhh

grizzled kelp
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i guess you have rejected the contract of that train

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it has no contract

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do you remeber what commands that train was using

smoky robin
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I did cancel one a short while ago, as I was getting confused with the shunting

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Yes

grizzled kelp
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Do you have a save before rejecting that contract?

smoky robin
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No, it was overwritten at the time of this bug

grizzled kelp
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You have 4 commands in that train's queue

smoky robin
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That was the original shunting track

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Red circles were sensors, no reversing

grizzled kelp
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you have
GoToSignal -> GoToSignal -> missing command -> go to shunting group

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what was the missing command i'm wondering!

smoky robin
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missing command might be a deleted sensor, so I did re arrage the shunting track to get the train engine to face the correct direction of travel

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I had a contract for a regional train to try it out. I wasn't happy with the shunting as it wasn't working well for me (Train kept going in reverse, causing gridlock). I cancelled the contract, but had the train remaining. I threw that into the couch yard. A while later, I gave it another try after trying the tutorials. This is the current track

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Then I noticed random signals getting set off, then finally, the saves stopped working

grizzled kelp
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i see a go to shunting group command

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where was the shunting track?

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is it possible that the missing command is a reuse train ccommand ?

smoky robin
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I've no idea, as I was trying to figure out the setup process

grizzled kelp
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well we have a missing rejected contract and a missing command

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my guts tell me something happened to the reuse train command when you rejected the contract

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because other commands do not make sense to be null

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well i have to investigate more

smoky robin
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There are two trains in Coach Yard 6a98, REG534A1 is in there

grizzled kelp
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hmm, rejeting the contract clears the commands

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that is not the problem

smoky robin
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It was on the last sensor, but I don't know what order

grizzled kelp
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So did your game go to normal after you managed sending that train out of the map?

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or you still can not save even after sending the train out?

smoky robin
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After I cancelled the contract, the train just stopped on the platform. I sent it into the coach yard, where it sits now

grizzled kelp
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hmm

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so the commands were working ok before rejecting the contract!

smoky robin
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Yes

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Just the train was going in reverse

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I just pulled the train out of the coach yard, and it's just sat here with no where to go

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grizzled kelp
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Well that train has a bunch of errors now

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try sending it out of the map

smoky robin
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That log has gone conisderably larger

grizzled kelp
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does the game saves now?

smoky robin
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No

grizzled kelp
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well, i'm not sure what Magic has been done to that command

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the logs only says that there is an error in the commands

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but have no clue what command was that and why

smoky robin
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I did use a reuse command, but no reverse command

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The log above is after I sent the train off of the map

grizzled kelp
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lol i guess i found an issue

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you can send the train to a coach yard using a shunting group command which i believe is a bug

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well it's ok to have that command but it has errors in your save

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i will investigate

smoky robin
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I did let it run for a couple of minutes, but the save won't save due to a shunting command error

grizzled kelp
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yeah i advice you to go back a while with the saves as this can not be solved on it's own

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so find yourself a save where it's not broken and continue from there

smoky robin
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Broken save.. aww well

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Unless it's possible to remove the broken train from the save

grizzled kelp
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Null shunting command queue spams NPRs

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grizzled kelp
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i tried deleting signal of a command

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the command is having the red warning color but no errors

trail salmon
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even after save&load?

grizzled kelp
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well i can not save and load there

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but i will try

grizzled kelp
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it is a deleted signal

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but the command should not be the first one

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it handles the first command that has a deleted signal but not the rest looks like

grizzled kelp
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Here, this is the fixed save

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you can load it and continue normally from there

smoky robin
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Thank you very much

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grizzled kelp
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FIX: Saving a go to signal shunting command with a deleted signal leads to a NPR and breaks the load
Will be solved in version 1.17.15

smoky robin
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I will avoid the shunting until this update rolls out