Left Hand not climbing

[stuck nimbus]

Since the update I have had issues with left hand climbing and not being able to reload whilst climbing. I'm on Index SteamVR and have tried multiple different bindings to see if I can find a work around and the issue is still the same., this issue wasn't present before the update for me. I have heard a lot of others complaining in game about the climb being broken so not sure if this is the same issue others are finding, but its literally unplayable to be enjoyable, its frustrating when you finally climb get into combat and fall to the ground not being able to climb or reload. Do you have any idea when this will be fixed @sacred token ? Thanks in advance.

[merry rune]

@stuck nimbus are you available to test a possible fix?

Unfortunately, I can't reproduce this issue myself, but we made a build that might fix it on Steam VR.

Branch: climbtest01
Password: climbtest0001

1. Right click on the game in your Steam Library -> "Properties..." -> "Betas"
2. Enter the password above into the "Private Betas" section, press "Check Code".
3. Set the Beta Participation drop down to the branch name above.
4. Launch the app like normal and try to reproduce the issue.

[stuck nimbus]

Yeh I am happy to test anything Index / SteamVR for you. Ill gove this a go and let you know the outcome. Thanks for thequick response.

[merry rune]

I have a few other ideas if this doesn't resolve it, but it might take some time

[stuck nimbus]

Ok, played for approx 40 mins on the above. Tested solo in a custom which was fine and seemed fixed. Went into sandbox TDM and a Metro duos, the climbing seemed to be fixed, however the FPS dropped between 35 and 62 and felt sea sick with the blur.

[merry rune]

Interesting... not sure why it would lower performance that much, but good to know.

I'll look into it more.

[stuck nimbus]

Tbh... since the update the FPS has dropped a lot it seems to be intermittent but its not stable like it was before the update but on that test above it was really bad and unplayable with the blur. Let me know if you want me to test anything else.

[torpid crag]

Agreed. Using Quest 3 through SteamLink. So, SteamVR with SteamVR OpenXR runtime and performance is randomly tanking. Its specically a frametime issue. Game frames go from 3-4ms to render to 10-11 ms to render. This is on a 14700k with 3070ti. Also used processor affinity to set the game to run on the fastest cores thinking the game might be running on the e-cores. That did not fix. @merry rune

I'll also mention that running the game through Virtual Desktop with VDXR OpenXR or Oculus OpenXR does not seem to cause frame time spike so issue seems to be related to Steam OpenXR. @merry rune

[stuck nimbus]

@merry rune did something with the climbtest launch codes change? I played today and the climbing was broken again on evolving map and it was playing on 15 - 35 FPS so it seems like something has changed. Wasn't sure if we should revert back to the orional version?

[potent coral]

This issue here is real @merry rune . its not happening all the time....it may be limited to certain areas ...im not sure. Happens alot in metro.I have a heck of a time climbing when i have a gun in one hand now. This is being described all over the community as well.

[stuck nimbus]

Are you on SteamVR Clarity?

[potent coral]

Oculus

[stuck nimbus]

I can semi fix the climbing to intermitant issues, but the FPS plumets to 30fps and its just a blur in my headset totally unplayable...

[potent coral]

Oh. I dont know if fps is doing anything on my end. Its just all of sudden mid climb cant grab an object with left hand.

Its only when i have a gun in my right hand it happens

[stuck nimbus]

Yeh its dreadful.. easpecially close range and you gotta move it plants me on teh ground... real sad times atm i didn't think it could get this bad

[stuck nimbus]

@merry rune I am on the climbtest0001 and climbtest01 version i have just gone to log in and it says update required, however, there is no update?

[merry rune]

Yes, we'll have to rebuild that change with the hot fix build. For now you'll have to switch back to default (none).

[coral basalt]

is there going to be a fix like this for native quest? i also have the same issues as described above with climbing

also so far i noticed that grabbing the "outer layer" i.e air before the texture grabbs all the time. its like the grab box is not in line with some of the textures. noticed it mostly in metro and sandbox.

[young yacht]

To me it's pretty simple just change it back to the old way it was..... I don't know why everybody always overcomplicates things...

Until then there's going to be some quest threes just sitting on the shelves in the store.... Because honestly a lot of people buy the Q just to play this game.... I am one of those people

Big Box destroying quest sales one update at a time.....

[coral basalt]

Dunno about all of that. But @merry rune is there also going to be a fix for Quest Native? It’s hard to not have confidence in grabbing when climbing. You suddenly slip and start flying around. Really messes up with the whole flow and feel of the game.

Not that it’s “harder” to climb. Just immersion breaking as now I have to concentrate on how and where to grab instead of just grabbing intuitively

[young yacht]

I'm just going to keep playing classics because the mechanics there aren't broken

I noticed a lot of teams playing classics because of that reason

[coral basalt]

It’s only broken on Evolving??

[young yacht]

Yup. It's absolutely fine in classics I had a lot of fun this morning

[stuck nimbus]

Mines broken in all maps but I’m steam vr not sure if it’s different for quest n steam

[coral basalt]

I can’t believe this is map specific. Hope this gets fixed soon

Core mechanic like climbing getting THIS buggy after 3+ years is just….sad

[young yacht]

I totally agree and the fact that there isn't an immediate fix is equally as sad

[coral basalt]

I wish the people that were so energetic to get the AWP fixed would realize they can hardly climb now….

Yet there are no 1500 comments on this issue…

Sometimes I get the feeling that the only way BB will notice us is if we act toxic

[young yacht]

Well I'm logging in now to play classics I'm pretty sure we're friends on there but I don't have any mic I can hear you though

Come to the toxic warheads best clan ever

Pretty sure there's an invite under self promo in this server unless someone deleted it

[coral basalt]

Already in a clan 🙂 thanks for the invite though 🙏 ❤️

And we are friends in game. Hope to see you next time 🙂

[stoic shuttle]

This would explain why i have been seeing super sweat squads in classics. I was thinking to myself why am i seeing these clan teams in classics. I thought they all hate classic.

[shell kraken]

Still plenty of super sweat teams on evovling lol

[rain talon]

Evolving is unplayable with this climbing nonsense, is there a word on a fix coming or is this just the way it is now?

[cold dove]

theyre working on it

[shell kraken]

The climbing isn’t great but it beats classic 10 out of 10 times.

[stuck nimbus]

Do you play on Q or Index? I can't climb at all in Evolving, classics is janky but its probs 20/30% better than evolving for me

[shell kraken]

Quest - It’s super annoying to physically put my hand where there wall is virtually to climb where before you could have like your elbows all the way in there was so much wiggle room to grab so to speak.

[stuck nimbus]

How crazy! Im on Index and its no fun to play when its so broke. The climb001 launch code seemed better but they revoked that and left us with it broke lol Custom rooms are the same as pubs too.

[normal hare]

dm me if this is still happening pap i might be able to help

[coral basalt]

Yep. Climbing is Mega broken atm. Really takes out fun and immersion from the game.

Quest 3 Native

<@&717548073852731462> any progress maybeeeee? We suffer here 😦

I don’t understand why a small issue like AWP reload was a huge 1000+ comments thread but messing up with core movement of the game seems to go unnoticed.

Do people just ground walk this game? 80% of the time I am climbing/flying.

[next topaz]

I've not pindropped since climbing was broken. Times are tough 🙈😅

[normal hare]

tbh idk what any of guys are talking about

[stuck nimbus]

Then shhhhhhh 🤫

[normal hare]

i want to know tho

[stuck nimbus]

If you’re not experiencing it you wouldn’t get it!

[livid galleon]

This is a problem every match for me. I’ve tried really focusing on my climbing. Going slower, varying wall depth. It still happens. I’ve been playing since launch and this bug is the first that leaves me frustrated every time I play, that I’m considering stopping

[stuck nimbus]

What set up are you playing on?

[coral basalt]

I feel handicapped. I don’t have confidence in my movements and this fucks up my whole gameplay. I always feel like I need to look at what I grip before I grip. That was never an issue in pop1

[limber falcon]

You’re dependent on being able to grab properly for so much, it’s ridiculous they haven’t fixed this.

@merry rune you said in another discussion that you guys changed the way collision was handled on the evolving. It stands to reason this is the issue since it’s only happening on the evolving map. Can you pretty please just roll back this change? I will take a few random people abusing wall glitches ALL DAY over this. There is hopefully another way to stop people from abusing wall glitches but this is not workable.

[coral basalt]

Seems like it doesn’t work this way.

We need to be toxic. Blow this up. Create a huge drama. And then BB will roll it back. Same as they did with the AWP.

Too bad I am not one of the people who can do the above.

Where is Vape when we really need him 😂

[livid galleon]

Quest 3 native

[young yacht]

Fix the climbing!!! are they ever going to fix the climbing I mean come on!! It's especially annoying because it works just fine in classics but then you go to play the other map and all of the sudden you can't do anything!! OH YEAH I FORGOT I CAN'T F****** CLIMB ON THIS MAP..... dumb

[rotund garden]

This TBH 👆🏼. Climb up a wall only to fall part way down. It is crazy annoying.

[coral basalt]

Exactly. But to be honest. I just adjusted the way I climb by now.

Almost back to the speedy climbing I could do pre-patch

It was either that or play only classics. So just practiced my climbing in training park

I just gave up on BB fixing this issue.

[rotund garden]

Are you able to climb 1 handed without issue now? For me I can’t work out what I am doing differently to fall sometimes but not others.

[coral basalt]

90% of the time yes. It’s all about where you grab the texture. Especially when you are not looking

[rare grove]

still happens enough to be a problem, and really makes "vertical combat" sad and unhappy...

even two handed climbing is fraught with peril during a heated moment...

[stuck nimbus]

@merry rune is there any idea or news on what’s going on / when there will be a fix for this issue? It’s been months since it was brought up with no update, it’s becoming frustrating.

[coral basalt]

I feel like it still hit and miss. I need to get used to how different textures “feel”

I notice it a lot when I warm up in TDM, my god! Climbing there is so frustrating. Every texture behaves differently when you grab it. Some you need to grab the outside layer. Some deep inside the texture.

I thought I got used to it. But seems I just got used to broken climbing in Evolving. In TDM most of the time I fuck up the grab/climb.

[rare grove]

i basically just do a straight arm, and go, or a two handed doggie paddle kinda thing for speed, but when it's not working, it's bad; it was flawless before, and i know it's a cheap fix for another issue, but it's gotta be ironed out

[coral basalt]

Yep. Really made the immersion take a hit. 3y I loved this game due to the great mechanics, but since the climbing issue was introduced. I just don’t have as much motivation to play…. Feels clunky at times and I just lose the fun aspect when I get pissed off that I can’t climb normally.

I never used to be ground walker, building-grabbing- climbing-flying was my way of quick movement around the map

[rare grove]

yeah, it's slowing me way way way down. VERTICAL COMBAT is in the name.

[coral basalt]

I’m with you….dunno why it takes them so long to fix it. I just think we are the “lucky” few who were climbing wrong all this time and really feel the affects of it. Most users didn’t notice any change.

[rare grove]

Most users are poor climbers ? 🙂

[young yacht]

They're just never going to fix the climbing.....

PERIOD

BIG BOX SUCKS AND SO DO THE DEVELOPERS. IT'S BEEN 4 MONTHS AND YOU HAVEN'T LISTENED SO BASICALLY "SCREW THE PEOPLE WHO PLAY THE GAME"

THAT MENTALITY IS KILLING POPULATION ONE

WE NEED GOOD DEVELOPERS WHO ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY FIX THINGS

[naive barn]

🙂 if only any communication about what they planning to do about it or that they working on it was there it would already be a bit better.. but as usual the only communication is new skins!

[coral basalt]

I think we will be screaming to the wall till the end of time with this….
I just moved on, it is what it is I guess.

Climbing is broken, and it will stay broken.
Thanks BB 🙏

[young yacht]

At this point it doesn't even matter if you have a quest 2. Everybody has the three now with faster processing and the two just can't keep up...

That combined with the s***** climbing makes me not even want to play or buy the three

[coral basalt]

The quest 2 and 3 are the same on pop1. The only (literally only difference) is the 16% (not 30%) resolution increase.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/A6KprEiqA9azX1Hg/?mibextid=oFDknk

Wasn’t this supposed to be fixed?
Wasn’t the whole point of collision change that brought the climbing bug was supposed to resolve issues like these?

So now we have broken climbing, and players STILL can hide inside textures and cheat.
Nice….

[stuck nimbus]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can you fix the climbing issue!

Its been 4 months 💀

Any chance at all @timid compass @sacred token

Been patient for years with bugs… but this is painful guys!! 😩

[young yacht]

We're begging @timid compass @merry rune

[timid compass]

Next release

[merry rune]

Yes! We have a fix & tested it thoroughly with players, so it should be good to go for next release!

[cold dove]

ETA?

[coral basalt]

ETA?

[coral basalt]

lol. Got to love the communication with the devs here.
3 months between messages (15-Dec to 16-Mar)

I guess we will know the ETA for the fix in June :/

@timid compass always appreciate how much you all show that you care 👏👏👏

[naive barn]

😦 BB style. They only communicate about waaaay overpriced low effort skins!! buy some more man!

[coral basalt]

3+ months with broken core mechanic 🤡
Can’t even provide an ETA after writing twice in a span of 15 minutes that there is a working fix.

Why not to release it asap as a patch is beyond me

“Next release” 🤷‍♂️

[coral basalt]

ETA???? 😦

[wooden whale]

I smashed my finger the other day when the climbing wasn't working right. Game us forcing us to go out of our element.

[merry rune]

New release live today! You can check that climbing is improved in the Evolving Map.

[coral basalt]

The update is todayyyyyy!!!!!

https://tenor.com/view/wowawewa-borat-wowwawewaa-gif-15656274

Finally. I can’t believe it “only”took 4 months to fix something that was working well since the game released. OMG. Can’t wait to jump in tomorrow after work

[cold dove]

pop1 community being as uplifting as ever

[coral basalt]

lol. I’m ecstatic for this update. Don’t get me wrong.

[coral basalt]

Can confirm that it’s fixed. I almost forgot that climbing can be not frustrating in evolving.

Fingers crossed that the next game breaking bugs will get more attention than what this bug got.