feral creek
Anyone else has Quest 3 and experience heavy frame drops with the Quest 3?
At some point when there are too many people around. Everything is just lagging like hell.
Coming from Q2 with PCVR to this is quite the downgrade I have to say…
Why the Metro map is so special? Why the Quest 3 can’t run it well?
humble solar
I just had lag so brutal in metro that I nearly fell over in a pool of my stomach contents, managed to keep everything where it belonged, but it SUCKED.
I have to wonder if BB even has Q3's or Pros, how else could they miss the issues unique to these...
feral creek
I have to wonder if BB even has Q3's or Pros, how else could they miss the issue...
I think they only optimized the classic map and didn’t test the metro map at all…. This whole experience just made me think twice if I want to keep my Quest 3. I had a great experience with my Quest 2 and so far this 500$ upgrade is not worth it.
hearty oyster
I have the same but only in this game, framelosses in metro everthing is shaking on the screen, legions is better but sometimes if i press the oculus menu button screen freezes, dont know whats the problem with this game but its annoying
feral creek
Installed fpstoolkit to see the FPS on screen and lots more info and ran around Metro.
Basically there is just a problem in the game itself. Even in map with 0 enemies you get stutters and framedrops when flying around.
Especially between apartments and market area.
I also recorded a video which I will upload later and it’s very easy to see there what I am talking about.
Basically the default refresh rate and fps is 90. But flying around in metro gives you constant dips to lower 80s. When these dips are short and small (87-89) it’s unnoticeable. But when it’s longer/higher 8-10fps.
It’s noticeable to the eye and really ruins the experience.
You can either increase FOV to very high (which results in VERY muddy picture outside of the center of the screen) or reduce the refresh rate to 80hz. Which will give a much more stable fps and eliminate most dips.
I used Quest Games Optimizer to change the settings while in game. Really essential tool (as other games you can really bump up resolution or refresh rate even if the devs have yet to update their game)
@livid marsh sorry to tag you directly but this really should be looked at. Pop1 is the only game that provides bad and nauseating experience on a brand new device for no reason whatsoever depending on which of the main maps you play and specifically in Metro Area.
visual siren
dont think the new update was tested
feral creek
dont think the new update was tested
Sounds odd that they wouldn’t test it. Also played some legions scrim, shit was unplayable. Comp is out of the question for Native play if there are too many people around. It was so laggy that people either teleported or plain image stutter.
3y of playing this game. 2y on PCVR. So far Q3 is a downgrade to the pop1 experience no matter how I look at it.
spring delta
Nobody listened. Told you.
The game is on its deathbed. Q3 was DOA.
humble solar
Nobody listened. Told you.
The game is on its deathbed. Q3 was DOA.
It hasn't been a week since this was reported, random frame drops that don't affect everyone are REALLY hard to diagnose.
feral creek
It hasn't been a week since this was reported, random frame drops that don't aff...
but it does affect everyone, the fact that not everyone notice this is a different issue.
install this app:
https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/unity/ts-ovrmetricstool/
start a private lobby and go fly around Metro. You will see you have dips in some places all the way to 79-80fps sometimes for more than a second.
Now that is with 0 players in the map.
When there are 15 people or less, just in tiny zone, it all goes to shit.
Really, in the past weeks i was able to test so many games, in most i was even able to up the resolution and hz way beyond what i would think is even possible with the Q3. the only game that is utterly broken is Pop1.
feral creek
Nobody listened. Told you.
The game is on its deathbed. Q3 was DOA.
Q3 is really great device! i have 0 complaints for the hardware. Our problem is the content, and the content is pure 💩 with devs who couldnt care less for the experience of their app on a brand new device.
Sad since this is one of the main apps owned by Meta and their own games not showcasing the true potential of the device is a real miss.
as for pop1, it is turning into "pay to win" by the year.
now Q2 users will be completely crushed by Q3 users, who in turn will be crushed by any PCVR\Index user who can actually play in dense areas with lots of players.
feral creek
Wow, the more I play the Q3. The more I’m sad to see how bad pop1 is. Let alone the connection lost that all people in the lobby have at the same time. Game is crashing on Q3. Sometimes sending me to a void with big music after a match and the whole map is so broken when playing legions. Lags and stutters to no end.
Hoooooowwwwww is this pooop of an experience is ok??? Why I can only play classic on a brand new device 😭😭😭😭😭
Literally any other FPS looks and works better in terms of stability unfortunately there is only 1 battle Royale game 😦
spring delta
Its gonna continue to be "OK" because you continue to play it. If everyone stopped playing in protest, maybe they'd fix things. But everyone still plays, so why fix things?
Just keep buying the skins and hush.
feral creek
Its gonna continue to be "OK" because you continue to play it. If everyone stopp...
I wonder how long this laziness will keep working for them.
spring delta
I wonder how long this laziness will keep working for them.
TBH, I think it's beyond repair for them. I think they've let the problems pile up for so long that to fix it requires too much money and time. Something that they don't have a lot of.
feral creek
TBH, I think it's beyond repair for them. I think they've let the problems pile ...
But it doesn’t make sense, I played PCVR today. And the experience is completely different. There is the usual added latency. But no framedrops or complete stutter fest when there are too many people around.
This is the same reason I stopped playing stand alone on Q2 at the time. Not only the visuals. The stutters just made it not fun. Like Fortnite on switch not fun.
spring delta
I'd say 90% of quest players are standalone. That's a huge segment of the player base and where majority of their money comes from.
I agree PCVR is where it's at.
feral creek
It’s like unless you play this game via PCVR, you are doomed to suffer from these stutters.
And the sounds!!! Omg I fucking forgot how far you can hear sounds on PCVR.
I was tripping how I can’t hear people like I used to. The sounds fidelity is also different!!! Why the fuck a PC player should hear further than native player??? In what world does that make sense??
spring delta
Yeah, probably really difficult for them to get it the same on standalone and PCVR. I think if they can't fix the game anytime soon, playerbase will drop off dramatically. I mean there is only so much a player can take before it's too much.
forest sundial
Are you sure the audio is different. I play both PC and standalone and haven't noticed any difference is audio. I will say though PC runs way smoother.
feral creek
Are you sure the audio is different. I play both PC and standalone and haven't n...
Yes, definitely difference in audio fidelity.
It’s like the native version dropping different sounds randomly. You don’t hear stuff as well as on PCVR
And yes. The overall experience is MUCH smoother on PC.
spring delta
I think there was a reason why they made the game FTP. I think they saw these problems coming and decided to make it free(Except PCVR, which isn't affected). I'd be curious to see how much revenue BB brings in every month. Probably just barely enough to keep the staff they do have.
feral creek
I think there was a reason why they made the game FTP. I think they saw these pr...
With their skins and expensive BG packs I am sure they are fine. I am not worried for their income. Also they are a small team within Meta. Not like what we pay in skins is going directly to cover the cost of the team.
Anyway back to the subject:
Quest 3 - Brand new 500$ device CAN NOT RUN POP1 without stutter!!! <@&717548073852731462>
Why can’t we get any reply on this? Is beyond me
feral creek
I also opened a request with meta support: 06362710
atomic tree
You get no reply because absolutely nobody from BB gives a damn.. they simply don’t play their own game and nobody there have the skillset to debug / fix an issue in their game. Buy some more skins to support this amateur hour company!!
feral creek
You get no reply because absolutely nobody from BB gives a damn.. they simply do...
I don’t accept this. I turned on my Jewish senses on and I will send and open tickets anywhere possible
Mod mail: 428667403950620679
Zen desk:
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Meta support:
06362710
No way in hell will I accept this as “take it or leave it” kind of situation. Q3 is f-ing pointless if I get a better experience with my Q2
spring delta
You're wasting your time getting mad. You're not listening. BB is probably a team of 5-10. They don't make enough money to care what you think or want. They haven't for a while now. Where have you been? It's ok, it was a fun game while it lasted.
Pop 1's glory days are long gone and hate to say, aren't coming back.
feral creek
You're wasting your time getting mad. You're not listening. BB is probably a tea...
That’s a real bummer….don’t know what to tell you. Crossing fingers for Contractors BR to come sooner than later.
The Q3 only shows how good some experiences can be in terms of graphics (Red Matter 2) and how bad pop1 is in comparison.
The performance is even bad compared to Q2 in terms of framedrops in Metro
And I’m not getting “mad”. I just don’t understand how this is passing by completely unnoticed
All I want is a simple answer from the devs. A “yes”/“no” would suffice