#Cata vs Dian

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royal sigil
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So after this revamp/balancing path, how does Cata and Dian stand?
Here's some questions I have!

Cata:

  1. They are still reliant on actually being able to trigger terror (aka the boss not having debuff-immunity right).
  2. they still suck at clearing?
  3. I've heard that Oriax is not worth using? (Even though the cooldown acceleration is only 1.3 which is 0.2 away from 1.5?)
  4. After that infamous combi skills now need MP to be used... Cata needs to chug more right?

Dian:

  1. Altar of evil's MP cost + the mp needed to cast skills makes it not worthwhile anymore apparently??
  2. A bunch of other skill nerfs like sinister, haures... what are you meant to put on your skill bar lol?
  3. is transcendence even used? I think it was used in the past as clearing? But that's clearly outdated.

And if theres something else I need to know it can be typed out in a reply

weak bough
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CaT

  1. No Comment havent done DPSing with CaT
  2. No, CaT have great clearing now
  3. Oriax is what makes your CaT_Brv_Apollyon 100% Darkness Demon CDA is just a bonus
  4. yeah CaT needs to use MP potion now because of some mechanics in Raid banning Tenacity and Strength making CaT not being able to use Bravery CaT_Brv_ApollyonCaT_Brv_DemonicCannonCaT_Brv_Oblivion
lofty herald
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Dia is probably one of the physical best synergy dpses in raids right now post balance patch but is extremely mp hungry. Cata is pretty much the same with slightly improved damage and better clearing. A lot of their existing issues are still there.

placid niche
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Altar of Evil is still good/necessary for diangelion
You do need extra mp to transform but I think the idea is to transform while on Ciel

Anyway diangelion was always mp heavy

As for the Ciel skills, they moved the debuffs to Altar of Evil
So yeah Ciel is kind of not that useful anymore in diangelion's rotation... instead Altar of Evil has everything which is why their party synergy is so good right now because it's significantly easier to upkeep their debuffs while dpsing