or actually, you got really unlucky and the elemental procts of the weapon kept coming through from his commands. (wind and water)
#pvp
warm hornet
and then does the raven bread and butter hyper optimal combo after catching you once
dull forum
Sup gang
Bro it's easy I coach you
Step 1 abuse your broken character mechanics
Step 2 actually have a good usable build
Wait
You dont run mod hang on
Wut
Bros not even EWing
knotty kraken
75 mp for 3 seconds of SA isnt that worthwhile
dull forum
It's
Not 3 second chat
It also has a light trait
Plus mpr makes it go down to the 50s
knotty kraken
.>
dull forum
>.>
Exactly
90%
Of the playerbase
Uses undying flame
Or moi
Or debuff elements like fire or water
dull forum
What's the chance of Regen 1 and how much mp
knotty kraken
50%/100%
dull forum
knotty kraken
50%/60% for regen 2
dull forum
So half of the time u get a free
Iron bosy
Body
How is that not worth
U win either way
U put super armor on you so you don't automatically get clipped by a random hitbox
Or get okis
Okid
By field classes
knotty kraken
its still a coinflip
and as someone who has a 60% reset chance its more unlikely than youd think
dull forum
Yeah but it's just a win more condition
You are not banking on the trait it's just a nice bonus
Also as I was saying at the very least
U get 4.5 seconds
From ppl having undying
knotty kraken
it doesnt work on undying >.>
dull forum
And if u got 2 debuffs u get 6
dull forum
I'm js like
It's literally
Your strongest utility active wise
It's a f you button
Plus it's a cleanse
You tank a haunting spirit
U press it bam
4.5+ cleanse
You can keep chasing
An ew without iron body might as well be a ras
knotty kraken
i can just charge em with a SA command to tank haunting
or slip around the haunting and attack that way
dull forum
i can just charge em with a SA command to tank haunting
Ok you tanked the unique haunting spirit
They get away from you
What's next
How you closing the gap
mystic elbow
jump out of unique haunt?
knotty kraken
yea?
dull forum
Yeah I get that point but all those options of circumventing the situation instead of going thru with what your class can clearly abuse
Is an issue
It's like if I willingly tank an ignite as immortal
When I can just press 🍪
And ignore de mp burn
Cuz debuff immunity
knotty kraken
ok then with ur situation
i hit mod and tank haunting
what now
as u said my mobility is cooked
so what just stand there and let it run out
knotty kraken
cant tonight
dull forum
Also the way you would do it is
knotty kraken
got work in 6 hours
dull forum
Tank the haunting by dropping down a plat or stoic command
Then u use iron body to clean it
And keep chasing
knotty kraken
also i really dont think i have 75 mp to spare at the beginning of a match
sorry 65 mp i have 14% mpr
knotty kraken
jump out of *unique* haunt?
im pretty sure thats unique haunt in the vid i posted
its like 10 seconds in
mystic elbow
well u said ppl saying "i would've done this" doesn't help so im not gonna bother looking at that video
knotty kraken
fair
dull forum
sorry 65 mp i have 14% mpr
That's another thing that you gotta fix tho
Mp cost is extremely important in today's meta
Not having mp cost is throwing
knotty kraken
unless ur wantin to fund better pvp ibs there aint much i can do abut that
dull forum
8% from ERP
2% from circlet
.8% from collection
8% from duelist identifications
Everything else comes from sockets
Now ofc since you're running an oor meme build
It doesn't seem that good to invest in mpr
knotty kraken
not that its needed considering
mystic elbow
🗿
knotty kraken
all my erp gives me 3.2% cdr in pvp if im remembering correct
and no pvp artis
ooh well im bored and gotta sleep
abstract yacht
Honestly I would've half-###'d that fight myself cuz facing a Revenant just takes off my mood to PvP
Nice to see you do try to fight em
like the first half he did spam >>^XXX a bit but not so much
but then by halfway through he just reverted to usual RV stuff.
btw Hang on works on attribute, so you don't have to stick to being on Freeze 3x
empty ore
You are impaitent is what I can see your playstyle boils down to
Reading more in the chat I can see you have a disdain for mod hang on. Dont sleep on it,KoE already gave you alot of good points
warm hornet
its still a coinflip
and as someone who has a 60% reset chance its more unlikely...
i agree, 15% chance of cooldown reset is still a 50/50 in my eyes.
warm hornet
sorry 65 mp i have 14% mpr
meanwhile i'm running like 8% MPR.
empty ore
And dont forget guys, prof pho now gives you artifact spirit stone cubes that you can select the stats and color you want
Also gave another circlet, so if you dont have a mpr circlet, You can just make one
empty ore
https://i.imgur.com/xWUzubR.png
Also, dont sleep on rigo, those skills changes work in pvp too.
warm hornet
the usual is 2%, yush.
meanwhile Mana cost reduction is 0.5%
physical/magical flat stats are 240
abstract yacht
wait sure it was 2%? or was it 1.5%
or is the 1.5% the cdmg/asd instead-
checks wiki ok yah its 1.5% both skill stack and asd/cdmg
hm then that's
28% skill tier + 36% cdmg (or 14.4% I dont remember if cdmg was a 40% stat too)
vs
24% skill stack + 24% cdmg/asd (no 40% cuz duelist) and 8% MPR...
excluding set effects ofc-
hmmmmmm
buoyant folio
Not having mp cost is throwing
it's funny reading this and recalling someone saying that having high MP Cost is dumb
I love PvP Community
lavish socket
It's because the game is complicated there is no way that there's only one set that works
Anyone who says otherwise are people who don't want to deal with different play styles and adapt
dull forum
hm then that's
28% skill tier + 36% cdmg (or 14.4% I dont remember if cdmg was a...
Both get stat normalized
dull forum
it's funny reading this and recalling someone saying that having high MP Cost is...
Yeah
It's dumb
Not having it in current meta is stupid
Why would you not abuse something that is clearly broken due to how the game works
I advocate for hardcapping mpr
To 10-20%
Doesn't mean I'd just nerf myself not using it cuz the stat is stupid
That's like the imma not manabreak cuz its not cool xdddd
knotty kraken
You are impaitent is what I can see your playstyle boils down to
so then what am i suposted to do then hmm
i can really only rush people down
no way to zone or stall
btw
oor with +10 unstaged vos on left
vs
fs with +9 semi-specialized duelist on right
abstract yacht
Both get stat normalized
skill tiers dont
asd does
skill tier doesnt
probably an oversight since skill tiers weren't really paid much attention back in 2018 when the 40% normalization got added
since there was only like..
3 sources of it
and 1 was believed to be ASD still at that time (ERP) by many
abstract yacht
actually why did I even mention ERP
ERP asd is in the middle section (Dungeon), it doesn't even apply in PvP
but yah
Skill tiers don't have the normalization
I don't have my PC with me, I can't even play but if you put up a wep guard chronicle the 10% full should pop up in the PvP window.
abstract yacht
?
twin pawn
gaebe
knotty kraken
using elri weapon guard it doesnt get normalized
abstract yacht
Last I was doing this it was full value
back in 2023
when I was DA since I didnt need the shred from MoI necessarily.
knotty kraken
abstract yacht
This also was brought to me by a friend who is fairly known player in the pvp scenario
tho I refuse to mention his name
who also confirmed it himself at the time prior telling me
and honestly I don't really remember skill tiers being mentioned anyway in that 2018 patch
I do vividly remember the websitr mentioning cdmg, asd, mpr and cdr
no skill tier
abstract yacht
check in-game
I'd show it up myself but
I literally havent been able to play the past...
...
3 months?
knotty kraken
i posted it above >.>
abstract yacht
yeah chronicle should be the same
knotty kraken
i dont have chronicle so i cant check that
but a 5% brav elri guard is not normalized in the window
dull forum
yeah i understand in the window they do not get hit by that 40%
abstract yacht
I mean other stats do get reduced by 40% in the window.
My MPR shows like 25% in PvE and then like 10% in PvP
dull forum
yeah that does make sense but i remember otonashi
sitting hours in spar/free training
and doing the math and came out with the conclusion it does get hit by the 40%
abstract yacht
You can always retest.
I wouldn't rely much on Ashal in this regard since I don't think Ashal has a PvP tablet
that or just, Ashal never been a PvP player is he
and more so now him not playing els either
I'd take assumption he only really updates the website for PvE only now
dull forum
You can always retest.
I wouldn't rely much on Ashal in this regard since I don...
it does tho
empty ore
btw
oor with +10 unstaged vos on left
vs
fs with +9 semi-specialized duelist on ...
The issue with Oor is that it has to be activated first. And until it is you're doing feedy yellow damage. Now unique Indom is a great way to mitigate this but that requires you to be taking damage.
Also theres two more things I just noticed
Why arent you carrying bangbang
And
where are your 500EP mana goggles.
(I will never not think its scummy they put these all the way in the back)
empty ore
Why arent you carrying bangbang
But yeh, you tend to press a lot of buttons in response to panic anyways.
Might as well press the defacto panic button
knotty kraken
didnt know those existed and ive never played with goggles before
knotty kraken
just dont see the use in em
empty ore
They allow you to see how much pressure you're putting on your opponent. One less element of guessing
knotty kraken
yea im not seeing the use in this
popped thunder with fs and awk buff for only ~32k a hit
and they mbed out before the first combo ended
knotty kraken
i got decent stats just suck at the game
29k a hit on an S rank
i love not having a nuke in a nuke-based meta
stable nymph
i think neither stat window
nor free training r super reliable but in general things that shud b normalized tend to b normalized even if neither suggests they r
dull forum
just dont see the use in em
☠️☠️☠️☠️
dull forum
i think neither stat window
nor free training r super reliable but in general th...
I asked the oracle
It is normalized
stable nymph
1s has been a meme format in years but reading mp in general is useful bc it lets you know what options opponents have available which lets u kno which of your options r safe & how much u can expect out of an interaction
abstract yacht
Might as well press the defacto panic button
tbf EtW's defacto panic button is I am stone
free hitbox if it gets cancelled
dull forum
Mp reader is super important in general
Specially in 1s
Knowing when your opponent has resources and when they don't allows you to know when to play defensively or aggro
You just keep tabs on forces mentally atp
If they have 0mp
Or bead
stable nymph
maybe not so useful if u do not care what options ur opponent has and just have yolo in hoping to laby ur opponent to death regardless as ur only gameplan
dull forum
maybe not so useful if u do not care what options ur opponent has and just have ...
I'd post an emote rn but it would get deleted
But uk the wojack I was picturing
stable nymph
probably not a good sign to c etw with no stoic wanting to play as rushdown
knotty kraken
sorry im stupid ig
hearty kite
Gabe so bored to be typing all the time
knotty kraken
this better
hearty kite
laby thunder in 1s sounds lowkey troll imo but I dont play 1s anymore
hearty kite
it being your strongest skill doesnt mean much in the context of 1s
EW is a setplay character
so its best to you your resources on your multiudes of good tenacities and force breaks
marsh plume
and it sucks
Sometimes it's better to adjust your stack/skill spec based on type of mode you want to play
Esp if you're using a build that synergizes w/ something else
OoR is a good dmg boost but it sucks at every other aspect pretty much
knotty kraken
i dont even stack it v.v
marsh plume
what are you stacking then
twin pawn
you
knotty kraken
2 galaxy/2 thunder
tenacity ring too
dusk dock
Hey guys. Idk what Add to play for PvP. I have tried all 4 and I am DB right now but I feel as if I should either go back to MPx, DoM, or OM. Having a class crisis rn.
twin pawn
roll a dice
random number generator it
figure out which one you enjoyed the most of the 4
dusk dock
ty
dull forum
Hey guys. Idk what Add to play for PvP. I have tried all 4 and I am DB right now...
Go om
And queue 2s
knotty kraken
so i socketed both soa and mod hang on and still cant win
guess im still trash
8 games in a row lost
9
10
11
12
wow a win finally
ik no one cares about this
and back on the loss streak
2
doing this til i get demoted to S
3
4
aaaaaaaand thats S rank
with an impressive 3:17 wl rate
absolute disgusting garbage i am right?
mossy crater
with an impressive 3:17 wl rate
empty ore
Record more
dull forum
so i socketed both soa and mod hang on and still cant win
What were you playing against
Bro chill
Elsword pvp ain't that serious
I'mma say 100% like any competitive game
You either need an idc attitude
twin pawn
gabe fund me
dull forum
Or you need an ego attitude
One of those 2
If I tell my mate imma try to frontline
That is already set up for failure cuz u ain't guaranteeing to your own self that you will win the interaction
Lock in gang
twin pawn
rob somebody
hollow hound
Normal day in A rank arena, lol.
A rank Genesis salting over A rank Mischief.
Oke.
knotty kraken
What were you playing against
mtm and fp
knotty kraken
You either need an idc attitude
and no i dont care i was just bored and seeing whod take the bait
mystic elbow
Or you need an ego attitude
How do i acquire an ego attitude
gilded slate
and back on the loss streak
Losing is part of the experience and sometimes you gotta just accept that stuff will just happen, especially in 1s. Also caring about winrate is pointless since this game's overall balance is trash. 
clever sigil
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1006998502942982245/1076832728332386416...
Not gonna sugarcoat it, Seeing the RH mindlessly use Deva and missing completely is satisfying.
clever sigil
and that last hit from laby thunder has the same energy of a Mishima ending the fight with a EWGF while their opponent does a rage art
buoyant folio
Normal day in A rank arena, lol.
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dusk dock
consume aura farm tiktoks
Whats step #2
dull forum
Whats step #2
Become delulu and think u can pull that off
dusk dock
😭
sinful anvil
empty ore
Hello to you too Mish
mystic elbow
there's a hacker in 1s rn
AeS or w/e her 2nd job was called
EM
?
no rank cuz i came across them while afk
🤣
shrewd terrace
imagine they add a char that can awaken midair.
shrewd terrace
where are your 500EP mana goggles.
*300
abstract yacht
imagine they add a char that can awaken midair.
that's just CC/FP/MP during transcendence release 
shrewd terrace
this better
wait, why aren't they using butterfly balm?
abstract yacht
Actually MP could just do about anything midair in those times
god that was so messy.
mystic elbow
Mpx could awk midair til recently
Actually he was able to awk and use skills midair
knotty kraken
wait, why aren't they using butterfly balm?
they wanted me to put on hang on so i replaced the least used skill which was balm
marsh plume
imagine they add a char that can awaken midair.
technically ain could awk mid air due to a bug
twin pawn
do people even use balm
twin pawn
hang on is already a cleanse
knotty kraken
its more a 'get off me' type tool
works best if they dont see it like during one of their skills
but any sort of SA makes it irrelevant
ig it can force breaks too cuz the 'floating' all counts as hits but they dont deal damage
dull forum
Mpx could awk midair til recently
Nerfed bc a scrandom wanted to show off
In a tourney discord
Funniest thing ever
mystic elbow
That was so funny
💀💀💀
Bro randomly asked if smth was a bug
N got it removed
Devs wouldnt even have known about it
empty ore
Actually not true
With the recent skill changes
Violet buffing all your skill tiers is a W
empty ore
Ok R9 is dog
But
Pho gives you r 20 amulets now
You can grab em on a alt
Then ez reforge to 21
empty ore
hm
shrewd terrace
prof phoru's stuff is never bank-share enabled!
empty ore
But the violet is..
Unless you have some magical non banksharable violet set
Hm wait, I need to check the reforge tickets
shrewd terrace
yeah, true. but the amulets only worked on the ariel's versions.
empty ore
yeah, true. but the amulets only worked on the ariel's versions.
It worked on a real piece of equipment
shrewd terrace
Unless you have some magical non banksharable violet set
those might exist btw.
"a real piece of equipment"
🤣
empty ore
So yes you can go make your violet pieces ez r20,* with Pho Reforge tickets
Then wear 2pc violet 2pc duelist
Duelist gloves are a must
shrewd terrace
ew the duelist set is that good???
empty ore
Yes, the mpr and stats are not to be ignored.
shrewd terrace
man. . .
empty ore
The gloves at +9 giving you 9% asd
shrewd terrace
._.
who thought that was a good idea to give out?
wait, what?
the duelist set I have saids the gloves give 9% red dmg.
oh wiat, "ASD (1*enhancement level)%".
empty ore
Yes, that
shrewd terrace
so the duelist set gets busted at higher enchancements, huh?
empty ore
mhm
shrewd terrace
is it even worth to invest in a violet AP set then?
oh my goodness just died in 1.5 combos.
Why is Atomic Shield STILL stupid???????
shrewd terrace
can AC's Z^Z be looped?
empty ore
which one is that?
twin pawn
the stupid launch combo that follows yp with opening the rift
you can probably loop it but i dont see why you would personally just timing wise
marsh plume
reg x and dj x do more anyway
dull forum
just x
buoyant folio
x
knotty kraken
so whatd i do wrong here?
back on a x5 loss streak
x6
x7
ig fighting derankers is one way to hit SS
playing with fs/soa is soooooo boring
i do no damage
warm hornet
from what pyro told me: twilights traps gives you a debuff where twilights damage just skyrockets on you.
i believe just mana break right away when you get hit by the trap to minimize damage recieved after trap explosions.
also, don't trade/contest that >>XZX~X super armor attack unless you got a stun/black hole/ your own super armor (she can chain an active/skill after it).
at worst, if a twilight starts placing traps everywhere, just avoid it. twilight won't do much damage to you until she gets debuffs on you.
(unless you're a madlad like me and just tank the hits to bait a approach for a trade war!)
warm hornet
for me, i just force trades because i kinda don't have a better option (other than less interaction). XD
knotty kraken
dont got forces to trade
warm hornet
you could chain your force actives like me if you have no better options.
hyper accel, haunting spirit, thunderstorm, fog.
dull forum
That start was tragic
warm hornet
and pray you get enough mana buildup on hits to retaliate back at them.
dull forum
You should've backed off as soon as they started doing their sa normal
It's stationary
knotty kraken
sorry im bad
warm hornet
you're good.
knotty kraken
im clearly not
knotty kraken
the experience of what
warm hornet
or just brute forcing it.
knotty kraken
getting bodied
warm hornet
or that...
knotty kraken
cant even tell whats happening here
warm hornet
i assume, the moment you got caught on your dive attack. (or after that)
dull forum
The escape skill reversal was crazy
dull forum
cant even tell whats happening here
So
You have 0 resources the forces were still up
We are committing to an unsafe button
Or normal
So ofc that was gonna get punished
It was a I have 0 resources imma have to back off angle
Sage is extremely geared too so
One mistake and you're cooked
knotty kraken
wooow i didnt know that theyre the +12 TW
warm hornet
very sure that TW has a +11 instead.
dull forum
I think also your overall approach wasnt the best
knotty kraken
sorry im bad
dull forum
Plus you have high mpr makes it so you heavily are at a loss during exchanges
You not having* high mpr
warm hornet
like me
dull forum
The couple of hits you did on him
Gave him easily an active and probs furious engage
Either bfs butterfly etc
dull forum
Not necessarily also to be honest Rena mp clocking got smoked except pr
warm hornet
so just dont attack got it
you can play a bit of range with your X attack.
dull forum
So him staying there a couple of seconds is whatever
warm hornet
poke and do guess work to follow up or not.
dull forum
Like
knotty kraken
x attack sucks in general
...... and its a curved map
warm hornet
x attack sucks in general
...... and its a curved map
i use my X attacks as well.
warm hornet
also, at least you're not fighting RV or CA that can gap close super fast with super armor (and chain actives/skills safely).
dull forum
At least you would like to fully abuse your movement and air options
Trampolining around
knotty kraken
im bad at movement so it doesnt even work half the time
warm hornet
im bad at movement so it doesnt even work half the time
my best advice for you is just keep trying a pray it works. (laby movement)
dull forum
No probs paeq ik you need the lessons
warm hornet
SA option into SA option = skill trade war.
knotty kraken
SA option into SA option = skill trade war.
its about a 50/50 on wether or not >>zx will successfully chain into a SA active
sorry im bad
warm hornet
its about a 50/50 on wether or not >>zx will successfully chain into a SA active
just like how i use "fayner".
there's a small window on my active that leaves me open to muliti hits.
same with chung as well with backblast, they always use that active skill last from chaining actives/skills.
knotty kraken
Losing in 1s on ew is diabolical
at least i have ur mesiah hang on on my bar
not like i can use it efficiently
or at all
dull forum
U could've literally
Wake up iron body
Instead u woke up into eating trap hitstun
Saving the 150-200mp u had for next season
knotty kraken
sorry im bad
warm hornet
at least when you fight a CE, she's pretty exploitable compared to the rest of the roster.
knotty kraken
doesnt even enter my mind that i could use it like my main dmg skill
knotty kraken
basically only use this in a normal match
knotty kraken
Maybe you need tp
disgusting
another one of you 'just jc and everything will be better' people
mystic elbow
Verum u aint learn ur lesson?
mystic elbow
very sure that TW has a +11 instead.
+12..
knotty kraken
aight im done for the night but if yall wanna keep discussing how its possible for someone who has only played laby for the past 6 years and still cant get her basic movement down then by all means continue but i wont be listening
also hi cass
knotty kraken
ig as they say
"the more you play the worse you get"
lavish socket
I think its the other way around but ok
abstract yacht
to me it just looked like you ate a lot of delayed fire damage
he took like 40% of your HP through a Briar Trap and a bunch of commands which seems normal
then after getting up you just got blasted the delayed fire and took out another 40%
delayed fire can stack up to 5 blasts
and each does 400%
so like
2k% dmg
which is like
half of what a nuke would.
so it doing 40% of your HP seems to make sense.
empty ore
- you're fighting a +12.
- You down escaped right back into the combo
Stop doing >>^XX it will not work on anyone with more than 2 brain cells.
Get into the habit of doing >>^ >> ^v Z in neutral more.
Im not gonna hate on your >>ZX usage. I think its a good normal for dealing with meatheads early game. As long as you dont over use it.
abstract yacht
I spam >>XX and it mostly works :D
buoyant folio
I heard +13 full set works better 🤓
shrewd terrace
oh man what is the state of PVP.
I just fought Mischief for the first time. . . .
lost, but that was because I was not prepared for an Iron Body with skill freeze.
oh, and I was on my NL that has duelist gear. . . and completely forgot to make use of Bibi. . .
and that person was still one catch away from KO, despite completely crutching on some dumb skill.
Also i'm seeing ppl that're standing still. . . no, not derankers. actual ppl that haven't learned to always keep moving.
marsh plume
Mischief is js another one of those god tiers
buoyant folio
Honestly unless you're playing meta + geared I'd say there's reall no reason to care about pvp unless for fighters lmao
pvp is a joke Frost 
lavish socket
yea pretty much
buoyant folio
There is the case where if ur a player that played since day 1 and pvped everyday for 24 hrs
lavish socket
either just have fun or AFK in it for fighter
buoyant folio
Maybe it'd be enjoyable for you naked cuz at least u've mastered everything and can play with ur eeyes closed
but I don't think anyone like that exists in the game LMAO
mystic elbow
i ran into a hacker when i just wanted to do pvp daily..
dull forum
i ran into a hacker when i just wanted to do pvp daily..
Sobad
mystic elbow
ur so lucky this server is moderated bro
empty ore
Not enough
dull forum
@coarse geyser ngl you guys improving the senpai rewards is crazy
wrong channel but still
good change
coral slate
hey was wondering is spar gear better than purple rigo if both are say +10
marsh plume
hey was wondering is spar gear better than purple rigo if both are say +10
if both are same enhance then duelist is better overall
you also kind of want purple rigo to be at least r21
dull forum
so would +10 duelist be better than +10 rego r21
You can just 2/2 with crit DMG spec duelist
Depends on character
Imo full duelist is better
tame warren
why did you attempt to confirm off your own air dive if she has stoic
play with the Xs
knotty kraken
at what part?
if ur talking about ~7 seconds in then how was i suposted to know that theyd pop the force skill after i already inputted the command?
tame warren
?
usually people will pop out a force skill if they stoic command has awful ending lag frames (after the movement they are heavely vulnerable)
tame warren
its not about being stupid, dont self loath like that, I'm also garbage
advice? dont play 1v1
unless you want to end like a certain CA player that only plays 1s, 24 hours of day and gets smoked heavely by other people with less gear
buoyant folio
r u talking about the annoying one that talks trash lol
knotty kraken
i am quite stupid if im losing constantly
really no denying that
cant get better without playing but i suck to begin with
so theres no good end for me
buoyant folio
nah the game just has garbage balance and horrible systems
knotty kraken
and im playing apparently one of the most broken characters in 1s
buoyant folio
Yeah well the point still stands
knotty kraken
while still being absolute trash
buoyant folio
PvP has been getting worse the longer the games goes on for
they've only had like minor improvements
and maybe a few choices that made it better
knotty kraken
and i should be getting better the longer the game goes on too
but i aint
buoyant folio
I mean
you can also take breaks from the game to take sometime to relax your nerves
you can probably return with a better perspective
kindred frost
I made this for fun (me irl
Silly skit)
noble barn
genuine question why is every Aisha player in pvp a salty player.. I’m starting to think it’s one person with multiple alts
lavish socket
genuine question why is every Aisha player in pvp a salty player.. I’m starting ...
You are most likely right
empty ore
genuine question why is every Aisha player in pvp a salty player.. I’m starting ...
Because they are gay
rich quail
They're salty because the pride month buffs have expired.
hollow hound
genuine question why is every Aisha player in pvp a salty player.. I’m starting ...
I have another question, why some people in S rank flag people with A-B ranks who are just deranking/farming fighters?
Like how low is their self-steem to be proud of "defeating" a deranker/fighter farmer?
noble barn
~~They're salty because the pride month buffs have expired.~~
THATS WILD XIVA
maiden iris
<@&630949540329029669> can i get a link for ereda server i made for more ppl to join ?
i mean me posting it
maiden iris
well ill see if ping em personaly later
wary dirge
Advertising is not permitted in this server and that includes promoting servers that you have made yourself, though I can ask the GMs to see if yours could be allowed?
If you're given the heads up you can promote it, but only after we give the okay.
maiden iris
so sky ress what happend ?
buoyant folio
if she didn't respond it's 1000% a no
full yoke
riwps and thanks !
dusk dock
How is everyone today? Long time no see 😄
empty ore
sUP
buoyant folio
there's like
this insanely laggy GS in arena rn
it's the funniest thing i've ever seen
the dude has like
a 5 second delay
but he's not teleporting at all
😭
he really
had me speedtesting
Seems I'm fine
Why would anyone play arena if they r lagging that hard
they can't even win
hollow hound
C.
lavish socket
A.
hollow hound
Ummm.
buoyant folio
E.
dusk dock
R.
lavish socket
T.
buoyant folio
Z.
heavy spear
Goodbye
buoyant folio
Bye
heavy spear
oh i thought we were playing ouija
dusk dock
We can always start again
buoyant folio
A
buoyant folio
u guys suck
heavy spear
S
willow mural
Umption
heavy spear
Goodbye
dusk dock
dusk dock
dusk dock
abstract yacht
I like that ppl still don't comprehend you can't catch someone off Elrian Clock if they use it with its original value (3s)
the iframes remain for a while after you can already do any action so it's easy to chain your way out
it's only when you use it on hitstun (1.5s) that you can still be caught afterwards
and I absolutely adore the fairness of that design
I wish more things were done that way
dusk dock
dusk dock
dusk dock
dusk dock
dusk dock
noble barn
https://youtu.be/RZuv0QTDlNE?si=1FiD9mwq19UgZ1HT
first YouTube vid! would appreciate the support 🙏
dusk dock
https://youtu.be/RZuv0QTDlNE?si=1FiD9mwq19UgZ1HT
first YouTube vid! would appre...
Nice to meet a fellow Els CC!
MY GOAT PINGPONG
dusk dock
https://youtu.be/RZuv0QTDlNE?si=1FiD9mwq19UgZ1HT
first YouTube vid! would appre...
You did good, laddie. I will sub to your channel!
noble barn
You did good, laddie. I will sub to your channel!
Appreciate your support and feedback! Thank youu
dusk dock
dusk dock
Appreciate your support and feedback! Thank youu
Looking forward to your next video!
dusk dock
dusk dock
I gotchu
dusk dock
How is everyone enjoying the new skill floor in PvP? 😄
dusk dock
The lowest common denominator
For example, now that everyone has a temp +11 SoA
that's the normal in terms of dmg
😄
dusk dock
no
that's +12
LOL
yes
@golden tiger
its my internet
dw about it
he did
@golden tiger
I'm so @abstract yacht
abstract yacht
oh yeah...
... did this ever actually happened-
dusk dock
oh yeah...
... did this ever actually happened-
nope
Could use it now ngl
idk how they would do it tho
empty ore
Demonic Eye is better than Incense.
2% c.damage and 10% spd reduction is better than the 13% speed reduction
dusk dock
Demonic Eye is better than Incense.
I know.
I just like the vibes since I don't own it
dusk dock
You already know the vibes
I have 30% MPR with it on
and I don't want to use White Ghost because it's a revive title
Getting tired of BnW as well
I might
idk
maybe after work
i just like to be fast and hit hard
so maybe tbh
abstract yacht
MATS is the "Speedaholic" of Elysion
dusk dock
MATS is the "Speedaholic" of Elysion
thanks for the info
dusk dock
anyone know what exacftly happened here?
abstract yacht
probably same-frame shenanigans.
warm hornet
anyone know what exacftly happened here?
a funny thing called "skill storage".
and it's mostly client sidded. (you recieving it)
in short... the skill that didn't happened on your end happened on their end, (she was slowed on skill animation for a very brief moment then it got canceled with her commands) got stored to activate with her next following special active on your end.
me and pyro tested this and it's a kinda funny.
all you need to know is that if your opponent did a skill in slow mo (fog of death) but it got canceled as if normal (follow up animation is slowed), that's when the skill storage happens.
on your oppenents end, it looks like the skill went out normally first before they get slowed after leaving the skill and mostly will not notice/see why you got hit by nothing.
and i bet that EtW was surprised about the grab skill finishing you. XD
one of the few funny reasons i love interacting with fog of death.
dusk dock
this type of stuff always happens to me bruh
thank KoG that I know how to record this kind of stuff now
LOL
mystic elbow
If it makes u feel better it happens often
Actives and force actives
Hell even awk can storage
arctic gulch
Any good PvP elesis here got some tips?
lavish socket
u can fries but I'm not sure if he still pvp
abstract yacht
there's Ben ig
oblique sundial
i used to bully ben but now hed probably just win
dusk dock
on god
dusk dock
Smfh revive saved you btw
amber hamlet
Congratz queen now ur stuck with the +12 star rank players in queue 🎉
wait i forgot rank resets at one point so dw forget what i've said about the star rank players 😭
rich quail
Yeah, it'll reset this week.
vague hound
anyone want to do some sparring? also could someone tell me how should i build pvp gear?
lavish socket
I guess i can help with that @vague hound
lavish socket
let me login first
lavish socket
ign: PyroCannons
vague hound
Oh wait are you in NA or int?
lavish socket
NA
vague hound
idk why but it says ur account is not logged in
lavish socket
yea cuz I haven't login
dusk dock
fiery lionBOT
nssky_ has been warned
amber hamlet
👏 👏 👏
dusk dock
that's a warning I haven;t seen before LOL
amber hamlet
this bot is no fun allowed personified 🙄
empty ore
Now start doing 2v2
dusk dock
Now start doing 2v2
Later.
is more 2s oriented anyway
I'm more of an 1s type of guy
and 
is perfect for me
@abstract yacht revive the pvp thread
dusk dock
sorry
forgive me Arkie
just this once
i must go all out
I was into MPx before Overmind
OM before DoM
DB before OM
and now MPx before DB
mystic elbow
mpx is better in 2s than db
dusk dock
even better
dusk dock
@knotty kraken is your offer still available?
lavish socket
if anyone wants
can I have it?
knotty kraken
sure
lavish socket
ok let me login
knotty kraken
ign and server when ur ready
knotty kraken
alright be there in a sec
my game just crashed lol
dusk dock
for you it is not
Pity.
dusk dock
abstract yacht
bro was so lagged deva strike came out mid awakening
empty ore
I really question the use of the water element these days
Like yeah 60% def reduction
But everyone hits so hard anyways
abstract yacht
it also slows down attack speed
dusk dock
I just like the color
empty ore
Cause
Ive always done dual element
the wind/water
meta since forever
But now im thinking
We do so much damage is water even nessesary
Everyone already resists it to heck and back
Might as well slap on wind 4 and hurt some mofos
warm hornet
Might as well slap on wind 4 and hurt some mofos
i slap on nature 1 so people will struggle running from me.
dusk dock
Me when AYS gets the first catch
buoyant folio
i slap on nature 1 so people will struggle running from me.
I love how sadistic this sounds LOL
serial killer in the making fr
dusk dock
When AYS says pick your poison when you know damn well you will die to whatever one you choose after your rez title kicks in
abstract yacht
until you face a class with a cheap cleanse or a cheap insta jump skill
dusk dock
any examples?
abstract yacht
fiery lionBOT
dekomlev has been warned
dusk dock
LOL
abstract yacht
lowkey wanted to add IM too because he gains immunity during iron body but I forgot if that also makes any pre-applied debuff to stop working or not so I decided to skip
dusk dock
that's fair
i just use eithre an title for awk cleanse or that one accessory blindfold
abstract yacht
so uh remember this-
it is a lot less random than I thought it was.
though it depends on the edge
every platform edge is different, some will have this some others will not
it also depends on which skill is interacting
but it's 100% consistent on every edge that this happens on.
so uhm, yeah, y'all have fun experimenting and learning which of your skills can interact in funny ways and also find which platforms these happen on 
empty ore
One of the reasons
Its heckin wide, its got curves.
But
I would take that map
Over Judges heart in 2s.
I despise Judges heart.
buoyant folio
Awfully judgmental
abstract yacht
she takes her judgement to heart.
dusk dock
Anyone have an spare jellies they dont need?
buoyant folio
Didn't you give away like a billion jellies earlier
dusk dock
wrong person tbh
abstract yacht
I think that was paeq
dusk dock
oblique sundial
I havent touched the game in months
Every time I see something about it i just get more depressed
dusk dock
Might need to lock in.
Got SSS twice
But I prefer to be SS
Ill get SSS on the last day or something
I'm not in the mood to be analyzing how much RP I need to obtain top 100 rank
But I am proud to say
I'm rank 101 today
So I'm a gatekeeper
LOL
dusk dock
Now everyone and their momma should have SoA perm by now.
The skill floor has been set.
stuck talon
HALP I ACCidentally +10 my duelist sparring weapon did i waste my luck
empty ore
Yes now you'll have to +11 it
dusk dock
+11 time
empty ore
Its applicable, For instance a proc build and you need some res shred
stuck talon
Sadly the title is not that cool looking… do u have any reccommendations for good title for 3v3? I feel like id rather just used king of abyss because needs 5 stacks to 150 res shred which is still about like 7ish % to proc level 4 burning (probably) with no bonuses which btw is the mp burn reduced by res i feel like it is… but also for attribute armors, the first attribute is 75 then 110 then 135? Or just total 135
Because if its only 135 total then seems like ppl will have less fire res since i think most ppls take 2 water wind for more proc chance plus cc but idk what ppl build for 2v2/3v3 i was thinking that mp burn could be more useful than pure dmg and action spd decrease
Regardless i will probably build fire 3 light 1 just because i like the effects but does elemental proc chance only count if its all the same element or only certain bonuses also correct answer glasses doesnt show opponent mp for me maybe because i registered mine as a hanger item? x-x
But otherwise i would just used parade of light or w/e to round out my mpd as well as for ressing but koa title looks so strong uuuuu
And then combine with kusharta mask -_- i need to quickly get +12
dusk dock
What
buoyant folio
What indeed
stuck talon
Yea i mean 5 stacks is just probably like 2-3 seconds of command attack but i watch some 3v3 match and it just seem like not much opportunity to combo commands mostly just catch someone people use huge skill (they get lots mana) then run away and repeat especially if you catch more than one person per skill is generating like 100s of mana per skill
modest pewter
Yea i mean 5 stacks is just probably like 2-3 seconds of command attack but i wa...
3v3…?
stuck talon
its possible
modest pewter
i mean in practice mode yeah but it’s not a game mode u can queue
stuck talon
well i mean this game used to have 3v3 game mode so its not impossible that it could return
modest pewter
i’d say it’s 99.9% likely it does not return
empty ore
Regardless i will probably build fire 3 light 1 just because i like the effects ...
Fire 3 light 1 is an complete garbo setup
commit to fire 4, or even light 4 if you wanna be a memer
Fire2/light 2 would suck as well because going half would mean neither would be as effective as mono element
stuck talon
just feel like most people have near max elemental resistances for all elements so not sure how effective it would be to even use the lower percentages such as fire/light, but also that if the elemental proc chance works for dual elements than it would be more effective to take 2 elements rather than just go 4 fire
empty ore
They do have max res
But no it isnt better to go dual element if you're trying to use certain elements.
People already resist light to max, you'd barely see it proc without some shred, even then the duration of the stone would suck.
Fire is best when its 4. Fire 2 is so unnoticable
Attack of the Steel machines is the current best res shred title (150)
Vs
Shadows Descent (100)
Use Mark of Inferno (150) over Phantom chest (35) though
stuck talon
anyways all they needed to do to make 3v3 more popular is decrease awk charge and mana gain and decrease skill dmgs
stuck talon
since grand chase classic even has 3v3 i can only imagine that elsword dont got 3v3 just because of skill spam
but no u cant say just go play gc then bc i'm currently in gacha hell
modest pewter
well gc pvp is also balanced stats so having a seal breaker makes no difference
dusk dock
Grand Chase mentioned!!!!
abstract yacht
just to note
3v3 was removed because nobody played it.
They're not giving it back.
your only way to play 3v3 is through sparring.
stuck talon
Well no one played aka they prefered 1v1 only or 2v2 because it was more reliable way to increase rank/ get ap rather than 3v3 buut nvm
abstract yacht
on top of just wanting to grind rank/AP, a lot of people also didn't like the experience of 3v3, you had 6 people, meaning 6 times the screen freezes because of skills and awakenings' delay
in the past this wasn't that much of an issue because allied delays did not affect you, but at some point they made it that every delay affects everyone and that on a 3v3 became really irritating to many
stuck talon
Could just meet in the middle and allied screen freeze has less radius
Also they need a way to get ereda medals anyways other than the unqueuable ereda island which i will eventually download els on 6 computers for -_-
marsh plume
3v3 would be unplayable with today's characters
dusk dock
Indeed
buoyant folio
3v3 has always been goofy anyways
abstract yacht
plus including the fact that everyone can reawk now
heavy spear
1v1 is already bad enough, i shudder to think of what 3v3 would be like nowadays
dusk dock
1v1 is not THAT bad
dusk dock
Yeppers
lavish socket
Also they need a way to get ereda medals anyways other than the unqueuable ereda...
The accs for that dungeon can already be bypassed in the EP shop
PVP rn is mostly dead and the people who care about it are doing 2v2 which gives you no rank no AP
1v1 for most people exist just to get AP, the SSS chair, or fighters
knotty kraken
hi 'literally the worst at pvp' back here again
why does etw suck compared to everyone else now
yea back to being straight trash
not necessarily scraping the bottom of the barrel for any skill or talent in pvp
more so digging a hole thru the barrel and thru the ship down into the ocean
its impressive just how bad i am
dusk dock
Me when I go from 56% SS rank to 49% S rank
Trust me, bro
it's just one of those days
Give it another try when you feel more confident/better about your skill set
buoyant folio
Have you tried branching out to different games honestly
i think u'd be better off playing something that's healthier for your mind
Elsword isn't it
dusk dock
Elsword PvP is not for the faint of heart
dusk dock
14 years of resistance is the only reason why I can mitigate the meta
and still pump out content
I suggest going back to the drawing board and figuring out yourself what makes you good at your playstyle and why you can't seem to draw out your full potential mid-match
because I had to do that many times after reviewing my own videos
Main reason why I post in the first place.
To highlight the highs and notice the lows.
knotty kraken
translation pls
dusk dock
review yourself
warm hornet
why does etw suck compared to everyone else now
Clearly you haven't PvP'ed with CE. 
lavish socket
I mean u look like a good player but I can't say for certain can't I have crap gear with my lithia
knotty kraken
assuming ur the AC?
and yea its prob a gear issue cuz u really shouldnt be taking that much damage
against literally everyone else im getting boddied
getting worse the more i play apparently
6 losses in a row now
well ive hit my win quota for today
ik yall hate existing in the same space as me so ill disappear now
warm hornet
@knotty kraken once I get home, I wanna spar with you!
knotty kraken
gl with that
warm hornet
ik yall hate existing in the same space as me so ill disappear now
And i don't hate you!
knotty kraken
sure
warm hornet
I admire your playstyle!
knotty kraken
sure
stuck talon
I need someone to fund my battle mage tbh
clever sigil
ik yall hate existing in the same space as me so ill disappear now
Don't assume anything about me. Class differences or none, you're a homie of the pvp realm. Remember that.
(Also if i recall you are quite the giga carry and chill peep as always)
Keep your head up. And keep down your self deprecation. You're better than you think. Its just that arena is a hellscape.
dusk dock
^
arctic gulch
Do u guys use actual pvp weapon like one with pvp mystics and such
warm hornet
Do u guys use actual pvp weapon like one with pvp mystics and such
a +11 Spar Weapon is just as good as a +11 SOA
arctic gulch
interesting
warm hornet
if your spar weapon is not +11 like your SOA, you're technically better off using you SOA instead.
arctic gulch
yep just wanting to get those double attack mystics on
warm hornet
just do that on a VOS.
arctic gulch
right thx
stuck talon
Do mystics and reforge imprints stage evolution not apply for pvp?
empty ore
No they do
Some imprints dont however
But fun fact
The ignore defense yellow imprint works in pvp
stuck talon
I guess duelist weap dont need attack level stats
I feel like with all the options on the raid weapons make them much stronger than duelist weap
stuck talon
i dont think i can use a +11 duelist since i still needed a pve weapon sadly
but after more informations i could consider to look into normalization raid weapon stats to consider when +12 times
marsh plume
I don't think
+11 ing a duelist wep is worth it unless you're planning to play more than 1 class of the same char
stuck talon
if it stronger than soa it can be worth for me
since +10 vs +11 for pve purposes not really a big deal especially since im not carrying any raid
otherwise i +11 vos buuut for now i dont make any large investment until i can determine better match stats and raid weapon for vos vs duelist
but i really like the set effect 5 pc duelist so but also i just read that ppl are prefering 2pc rigo for bulk builds which i am building "full tank"
also i noticed i was able to go over 80k bonus hp from attributes labeld with (max 50%) on my apsara which i think is supposed to be 150k base hp if anyone can confirm thats correct
i got like 90-100k but i didnt have enough sources yet to test further
but ya i think with mod e shadow weave and full tank aps can be strong in 2v2 or 3v3 scenario
since i will just forward tank" until i got 170 manas and then mod e skill
and then hopfully can win that way
buut i also gear a surya just incase i feel like trolling with 100% superarmor but she dont have any strong pvp skill other than that i think but i havent play that one yet very much
also want to gear aes for aesthetic purposes but i think aps is much stronger also with mod fall skill seems kind of strong except i dont see anyone use it
marsh plume
if it stronger than soa it can be worth for me
i mean, assuming you can only enhance 1 then im pt sure SoA would still give you better values in the end, dmg wise
Duelist is more or less similar to VoS than SoA if anything