pvp

[dull forum]

And also

Yoh gotta fix ur stats

[quiet halo]

How?

Just gear?

[full yoke]

man icantr seam to be able to reach 600 k hp

[noble pelican]

Is your armor enhanced to +10 or up?

There’s enhancing, your erp (even though it’s cut 40%), or sacrificing your specialization for hp

[white valve]

hp in pvp stat page has been bugged for quite a while

[noble pelican]

Really?

Wild

have I been wasting my points all this time?

[white valve]

???

Your total hp is just higher than what the match stats shows

probably half a year since its been bugged

[full yoke]

its +9 @noble pelican

realy?

then how much should i be having?

[white valve]

depends on min max

but 500-560k is alright for +9s

[full yoke]

isee

ppl told me to get to 600

[white valve]

NA right

people with +11s are barely at 600k on the stat page

unless min maxxed

with the bugged stat page 600k is equivalent to like 750k+

[full yoke]

bna yeah

i am at +11

[white valve]

you should be at 600k unless didnt min max properly

would need to see your gear at that point

alot of HP comes just from random IDs

some setups is also just less HP as well cause of IBs

[full yoke]

isee

i supose

[dull forum]

So

Your accessory set up mainly

[full yoke]

at this point

forgot ilipia in

557

is my hp

[white valve]

if i have to guess you missing alot of random ID HP lines

if you full +11

[full yoke]

item id?

+11 wep +9 armors

[white valve]

additional effects

[full yoke]

oh

ihave 0 xD

on the sparing gears

[white valve]

then yea thats where all the misisng hp would be

assumming your accessorys dont have either

and you dont have ereda accessorys with hp as well

[full yoke]

true

600 mil are alot for one

or none to que at

[dull forum]

Use mp reader plox

[warm hornet]

imagine if it also show exact MP values.

[full yoke]

naw

[dull forum]

Bro don't wanna win

[full yoke]

i dont like having an item just to know mp

[warm hornet]

because the thing is... since nearly everyone is running MP cost reduction and then there's someone that exist to have 900 MP in pvp...

[full yoke]

900 mp on pvp?

i only have like 550

also elsword first path just use 100 tenacity to one shot you

.

[warm hornet]

then MP goggles wouldn't matter if you can always guess if the opponent will always have enough to burn an active or tenacity with a sliver looking of MP.

[full yoke]

yeah

also i just seem to take to much damage

557k hp with 40 % kind of damage reduce

but i see my haelth bar melting sometimes

[warm hornet]

your physical and magical defense also plays a part.

[full yoke]

its around 50 % reduce

i still dont have aras in

or any defence on elreso ;p

[warm hornet]

water weapon element can reduce that down to 35%

[full yoke]

ah nvm i have 53 %

55%

and 56 for mag

still

[warm hornet]

then it goes down to like 38%.

[white valve]

defense is really low for +11s honestly

[full yoke]

gobe does one shot me with hes tenacity spam

its +9 armors

+11 soa

[warm hornet]

i use +11 VOS and +9 armor.

[white valve]

even just for 9s that low

but you said lacking aras already

[full yoke]

Vos i mean sorry

yeah all of thsoe 3

phys mag def and res

[warm hornet]

i horribly have around 70% effective physical/magical defense and my damage is nearly RNG.

[full yoke]

70 ?

how ?

ah also ihave 51 % defence withoutcounting passives

[warm hornet]

i put physical/magical defense on my spar gear.

[full yoke]

well being 20 % hp

[fiery lion]

justsalensblanket has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[full yoke]

to get def is bad

oh

[warm hornet]

i only have around 25% crit and maximize on top of that.

[full yoke]

i have 70s

also they need to update novas passive

[warm hornet]

then my VOS is completly double attack and elemental proct.

[full yoke]

victory survivial

and mercenery survival

they dont do that much on pvp

[warm hornet]

CE nearly has nothing going for her in PvP.

if i summon, it's free MP for the opponents.

[full yoke]

true that is

no hit stun on em and giving mp

[warm hornet]

and i only have 2 damage amp passives that involves her summoning.

[full yoke]

esp oberan

[warm hornet]

and i have no stun.

[full yoke]

neither i

[warm hornet]

no dash/mobility skills

[full yoke]

or any super amor that lets me ge tin

[warm hornet]

no "good" engage tools.

command attacks has relatively high knockdown rate but right under Twilight.

the "infinite" optimal combo for CE is very lag sensitive and needs perfect execution.

CE has no skills that refunds a fair amount of mana upon successful hits.

half of CE's command attack scale off of magical attack power while bing a physical character.

most of CE's command attacks gives a fair amount of MP back to the opponent as much as she gains them.

[mystic elbow]

U like playing guessing game on hard mode

[full yoke]

yeah haha

same thing oto me about coammnds

i just wanna know why 4th paths have all the anoying combos and powers

and how much mp i give or take by comands and teh code of kog

[warm hornet]

you can tell with MP goggles

[full yoke]

i mean as a code bu sure

[warm hornet]

Raven's bread and butter ZZXX ^X doesn't give much mana back to the enemy.

and it's almost a near infinite.

[mystic elbow]

Just about every 4th path that isnt LA n OM have annoying commands to deal with

[full yoke]

i am not physical also does less damage

[mystic elbow]

Im assuming you’re RH probably?

Either way, its probably more of you do no dmg compared to the class

[warm hornet]

but you you have way much better neutral tools than CE.

[full yoke]

nova

[warm hornet]

shadow step.

[full yoke]

linear also can be cheased with awakening

[warm hornet]

with a stun, yes.

[full yoke]

nope they can litery jump awaken and you are kind of middle of being stoped

[warm hornet]

then just wait in the shadow step before pressing Z or X a bit...

see how opponents react to it.

[full yoke]

ppl wait on it have double jumps or dashes

so they can just juke it

littery 3ple movement of shadow step was removed for being to unpredicatble

[warm hornet]

if they wait, then act first before they can react.

[full yoke]

or long invisibility

[warm hornet]

and you can stall in the air with >>^ X

and then just dive attack if they start trying to get your height.

[full yoke]

or just xx

[warm hornet]

and you can SA in the air as well.

with that one active.

flame sword?

[full yoke]

yeah

but hes passives litery have no use

the victory one

and survival merce

[warm hornet]

CE may be able to fly, but she's got no cheap aggressive/defensive options in the air other than running.

and all of her air command attacks put her into free fall, so there's more risk for her to do air to air combat.

[full yoke]

little robot and and that orb thing but it also procs your core mutilhit

trues

[mystic elbow]

I noticed that NIs who play patiently in neutral do way better

[full yoke]

duno if its any good tbh

[mystic elbow]

So try to slow down

[warm hornet]

this buffs your flame sword and haze explosion active skills.

[mystic elbow]

And let ppl make a mistake since nobody ever seems to play more patiently

[warm hornet]

decent/good tools to use as "counter aggression" options.

especially in the air.

and most character stuns are near the ground.

[full yoke]

1.2 damge

and micros stuf

[warm hornet]

it's better than what i have.

[mystic elbow]

Also all of CEs summons suck to use

[full yoke]

mercenery survival only activates at 20 % hp

which grants def and daamge

[mystic elbow]

U rly get punished for using any kind of summon on her

The only good points is when u severely outgear the other person

[full yoke]

where is that usefull?

[mystic elbow]

How isnt that useful

[full yoke]

for a 5 % increse

[warm hornet]

for having "combacks".

[full yoke]

you get one shot before you reach 20

[mystic elbow]

Its basically like having free indomitable will

[full yoke]

indomitable wil?

[mystic elbow]

U can avoid a one shot in 1s pretty easily

[warm hornet]

in a way

[mystic elbow]

Yes its a force that once u get to a certain hp all your attacks become crit

[full yoke]

i ahve it already but i am alerady at 100 % crit

if i stack 2 overhits

[mystic elbow]

Why do u have 100% crit

[full yoke]

i am at 70%

[mystic elbow]

Oh i didnt read the last sentence

[full yoke]

that passive litery has nothing going on it expect defining how much over heat you can do and it dosent even say how much duration ofthose debuffs is getting removed

20 % from 2 secs at best?

or 5 that some have it

[warm hornet]

just get max light resist and stuns won't be much of a problem for you anymore.

XD

[full yoke]

also i would rather have mercerny survival 5 % increse from the start

so it makes its use on 100 % of my health bar

instead of 20 % of it

i have it already

oh wait not

[warm hornet]

:v

[full yoke]

i seam to have over socter

socket some stuf

[warm hornet]

max light resist reduce stun duration by 80%

[full yoke]

mhm

[warm hornet]

then your passive reduces the remaining duration by 20%.

2 second stuns becomes 0.4 seconds.

then that just drops down to 0.32 seconds.

even worst... 3rd path add has the shortest stun duration in the game...

XD

0.5 second stun.

now clue why they added that.

XD

[full yoke]

yeah so i am still geting stuned so it stops

[mystic elbow]

Reverse circle?

[warm hornet]

bingo

it was once a decent/fun skill to use.

[mystic elbow]

Heh that skill is funny to see in 2025

[warm hornet]

but really... that stun passive was so not needed...

[full yoke]

still its usefull cause it removes super armor and succesfuly stuns

its still has the use

not that big but still does something

[warm hornet]

it doesn't stop iron body.

and with max light resist... it's not even a stun you can follow up with at all.

[full yoke]

well elboy and elesis

well isee

[warm hornet]

with max light resist, reverse circle stun duration becomes 0.1 seconds.

[full yoke]

yeah but ist also a special active so time stop makes it even bad hah

[warm hornet]

people can just trap him after reverse circle.

or force a skill trade.

epecially with black hole skills.

imagine having a stun that works against you for using it.

[full yoke]

gotcha

[warm hornet]

imagine having 4 passives in PvP that you can't use at all because summoning gives a massive advantage window for the opponent.

and thus, CE is glorified gear check

All in all, at least NI doesn't have it as bad as CE.

[cyan pine]

NL has burst damage plus she can punish you going for her pets by blowing them up in your face

like if you could double click your summons to have them do a final swipe like attack where they're located and it does decent damage i think CE would be a bit better but literally it's free mana and or they just die instantly from one skill

[mystic elbow]

NI doesnt nearly have it as bad

That character is genuinely amazing

[cyan pine]

Laby hitboxes

nuff said

[mystic elbow]

Also we’re talking about

Not

[cyan pine]

oh

rip

[mystic elbow]

[cyan pine]

didnt see the i i saw an L

yeah NI is literally no mana bursting blade

[dull forum]

This is extremely cope

I just don't agree with that sentence cuz in reality it's easier to adapt and learn how much mp their buttons cost based on the mp I'm seeing

Rather than be blindfolded

And have 0 information in the game were resources are the most important

Plus it would allow me to know when to rush for mp gain combos

Or start messing around with their mana break timing

To get more mileage out of my combos

[dull forum]

CAPPER

LA has shadow step on a command

x

[mystic elbow]

I feel like thats leagues better to deal with than

CA RV AD commands

LA doing that doesnt matter to me when I have >>^ZXX as a command

😩

[dull forum]

On CA?

[dull forum]

Bro

It's a true chain into teleport

Or cfb

It's obnoxious when they know how to use it

And it's 5mp

[mystic elbow]

No Shakti

Oh yea that is a CA command to huh

[dull forum]

Ye

[dull forum]

Well yeah they are stupid

[mystic elbow]

Yea id rather deal with LAs one broken command

Than their all broken commands

U feel me

[marsh plume]

at least 2/3 from those 4ths

r at least top or god tier on 1s

nvm it's all 3

[noble pelican]

Taking notes

[full yoke]

just got one shot from one add at sss rank level while im ss

with 100 % hp of mine

well 90 he needed mana

@dull forum what if i go 2/4 violet 2/4 spar gears

for extra hp also mp cost

also 10 % dr

[marsh plume]

2 pc / duelist is roughly 4% mpr

rigo set related effects are usually affected by the 40% multiplier

you'd need to r21 for the rigo 2 b more or less at the same lvl

same / better

[full yoke]

4mpr?

4 % mpr?

you mean violet

i see

so even thu it is pvp stats dungeon armor they also get nerfed as set effects?

[full yoke]

who has the most defence and hp stat?

[dull forum]

Mrschao

[full yoke]

mrshao?

whos that

[cyan pine]

Sadly that's all most adds have save up mana burst

Wait till the mod skills come back cannot clock new db mod skill and even after nerf it still one shots

[full yoke]

90 % hp ?

hm isee

[dull forum]

u drop mp cost

if u go duelist

cuz the one on duelist is normalized

[full yoke]

gotcha

but is the hp from sett normalized as well?

oh well rips

[heavy spear]

wondering if the new mod skills for dem are any good. not hopeful though

[willow mural]

allegedly soul infest is good, but you have to space

it whiffs if casted point blank

[heavy spear]

oh ew

well you could probably do the job with lu zx and jump over em idk

[heavy spear]

still no dem pvp videos since they made base braveries cost mp lol

guess it's time for me to suck it up and stack mpr so i can get 150mp blankets

wait wasn't mpr nerfed? i havent been on in so long

[mystic elbow]

mpr hasn't been nerfed

[heavy spear]

o

[kindred frost]

https://clips.twitch.tv/DifficultObeseCheddarBCouch-bSeZUe5_iqFCLROC

INSANE

[oblique sundial]

At like 25% mpr and 500 max mp it refunds itself

(Literally pulled the numbers out of my ass)

It's really dumb though and you can wincon with it

Oh God wait is diangelion soul infest just a single hit

That does 20k%

Okay no it's not praise the lord

I almost had a stroke

Get hit by a single hit 20k and spawn in dead next match 💀

[marsh plume]

We're doomed

[heavy spear]

record a video so i can live vicariously through it

[kindred frost]

I got comm art of my oc!!

[haughty sedge]

nice! - who drew it?

[mystic elbow]

Commission me next 👀

Actually just send me pics of the char n ill draw

[oblique sundial]

That would involve me reinstalling the game which I refuse to do for the time being

So you just gotta live with the "trust me bro" for now

I think I still prefer the cata/dia touch of deaths to the cheesey dem wincons

Dias funny

Oh no you didn't get to mash the bound combo? Lol

Die

It's like a higher risk bq

The extra risk coming from the fact that you might get mashed and oneshot by a tenacity

[heavy spear]

dem has wincons other than blanket refunding?

i wish they did, last time i played i tried whittling them down with scratch id spam and it just wasn't enough to get me to ss

(that's a skill issue on my part tho)

[kindred frost]

Wonderful person and artist

[kindred frost]

Omll okay cause I had one idea I wanted to do, of my eve holding like little stuffies of my friend Chars on elsword

[mystic elbow]

yeh send ill do a half body

[full yoke]

nices!

[quiet halo]

Anyone know where I can find a PVP gear guide?

[lavish socket]

unless u wanna do a niche build it boils down to have Mp cost -x%, crit, maxi, ASD, ur skill stack of choose , action speed, HP

[dull forum]

hi

[mystic elbow]

Idk how good it is but im pretty sure tatsumaki on youtube did a pvp gear guide

[dull forum]

@quiet halo

TLDR all support specs mp cost

crit dmg if ur immortal

or asd if u cant win neutral and u just wanna nuke

swordfall stacking

[quiet halo]

Ew yucky nuking

I wanna play neutral

[dull forum]

crit dmg then

[quiet halo]

Bet thx

Btw there aren’t any scrolls for PVP gear right?

I just have to enhance them normally

[lavish socket]

pretty much

gl with that

[quiet halo]

Hmm ok that’s a task

[quiet halo]

Ty

[mystic elbow]

If youre doing 1s only u dont need anything above +9 anyway

[dull forum]

tbh

if ur good enough

u can rock 9s

[quiet halo]

1s as in 1v1s?

[dull forum]

lol

my rm has 9s

[mystic elbow]

Yeh

RM just op

[quiet halo]

Ok cool good to know

[mystic elbow]

:/

[dull forum]

no

im better

@quiet halo

lemme send u screenies

rq

in this chat

[full yoke]

anyone wanna bvp?

iwant to see my stats how improved

[quiet halo]

Whats that

[full yoke]

pvp*

[dull forum]

screenshots

[quiet halo]

Said it like a Middle Eastern

[quiet halo]

Aight send

[full yoke]

screen shots

[dull forum]

this is

with +9 armors

so u want

mp reader

stage 5 vos

hp ids on ur accessories

and armor

RM is no command character so i had 2 go asd

for crit sockets u run dignity stones

weapon is w.e

but ids u wanna get

a single 9k

or double 7ks

or 9k 4k

or 7k 4k

double 4k is a scam

double maximize circlet so u can

socket more mpr

and ofc mp cost 5%

which translates to 2% in pvp

u never socket hp

u get hp from ids

[quiet halo]

What r ids?

[dull forum]

additional efect

u see how

all of my Additional effects have

hp

[quiet halo]

Ye

[dull forum]

so thats

where u get most of ur hp

[quiet halo]

Ok cool

[dull forum]

if u dont have

the ice burner pieces

[quiet halo]

How do u get an MP reader

[dull forum]

8 dollars in the item mal

☠️

[quiet halo]

💀

I don’t have most of the accessories ur running 😭

Gotta start somewhere ig

[dull forum]

if

u dont got the combo

like supprt top unit

or earring

then u run

either champ accessories

top bot earring

or

elrianode earrings

with drabaki wing

and demonic eye

[quiet halo]

Ok cool I have pretty much all of those

[dull forum]

so

u do double hp

earrings

[empty ore]

You can just buy earrings till you get double hp

or find a pair on the board

[dull forum]

i got it from the

phoru prof

lol

as for drabaki

double hp

• crit

or

main stat 1%

or

maxi

or attack speed

or triple hp

tats pretty muich the f2p set up

So artifact u run

Maxi maxi circlet with 5% mp cost

Red DMG red DMG armor with phys magical defense %

Anything on necklace + ur nuke dmg

Rings u do

1 crit DMG 10% and 100 points resistances

If not just crit DMG 5% + any resistance rings

As for spirit stone u do phys mag 2%

That's best in slot for artifact

[quiet halo]

Drabaki’s wings or the temp ice burner accessory they provided?

Sacred knights cape

[dull forum]

Drabaki

If u got good ids

Sk cape is whatever

2% cdr

[quiet halo]

My drabaki has decent ids for PvE

Maximise 3%
Crit 3%
Add damage 3%

Worth changing?

[dull forum]

Yeah

For pvp sure

[empty ore]

Those aren't even good IDs for pve

Asd or phys/mag would be better

[mental warren]

I am tempted to try a bit of PvP. Are there resources to help me better understand it? Good characters for PvP, gear for PvP, etc.

[hollow hound]

I don't have a lot of experience in pvp, so I may be wrong (correct me if I am wrong, please), but why is CE and ES at the same tier?

[dull forum]

cuz they are the human characters

[hollow hound]

?

[dull forum]

they are not as egregious

as anything on the higher tiers

their match presence is alright once they get going

but if you give the same conditions like mp awk beads etc

to the ones on the top

they just finish the game

biggest Example

u give CE 300mp 1 awk bead

they aint oneshoting anything

efficiently

u give ES 300mp 1 bead they cant do it efficiently either

give that to IM, rh, hr

and they use half of the resources and can still keep going

[mystic elbow]

OM 💀

[buoyant folio]

💀 OM indeed

is this your tierlist or just something you found

[dull forum]

mine

[buoyant folio]

Dang

[dull forum]

current meta with all mods in the equation b4 halving patch

[mystic elbow]

is MC being godtier smth new or did we just not have enough rep for her before

[dull forum]

ladder made her stupid

its literally pb on steroids

[dull forum]

like

u tank mischief
they get knockout

u break mischief they still can just cubbyhole cycle u

or now they can just drop [Mod] Rapid Burst: Lethal Ladder

b4 u wake up

and it sucks u in

cant clock cant escape skill

does splashc

costs nothing

i think its a really good button

[mystic elbow]

icic

[twin pawn]

buff devi!!!!

[noble pelican]

“Anything here is bad”

OM : 👁️👄👁️

[warm hornet]

i freaken knew it that CE is low tier in PvP.

[dull forum]

chat

[noble pelican]

You’re still god tier in my eyes!

[celest ore]

es is just elsword pvp old school style

what is a nuke? you beat people to death with z loops and x drops

[kindred frost]

time to speed run this collection char

[haughty sedge]

happened again

with DoM

[noble pelican]

Gamin’

[clever sigil]

nice.

Now lets see that become a Star.

[haughty sedge]

KEKW

Nah

that would be my DB

but my damage ain't there yet

[full yoke]

oofs

[kindred frost]

gj!!

[quiet halo]

Btw @dull forum I got SS last week

Thx for the tips they went a long way 🔥

[haughty sedge]

Congrats!

[dull forum]

No probs if u wanna spar later of if there's a matchup u wanna learn I gotchu

[hollow hound]

I remember why I quit pvp.

I can't play as CE. X_x

Hard for me to counter other characters.

I will just keep doing AFK pvp.

[empty ore]

I feel you should come back once the IB accessory change happens

[warm hornet]

CE doesn't counter other characters, she simply can't contest most or many of their agressive and safe tools.

[mystic elbow]

Just play 2s

[warm hornet]

it's even worst. (for CE)

[mystic elbow]

I doubt that

CE has decent tools for 2s just no nuke

[warm hornet]

oberon guard can be easily skill traded. especially in the chaos.

[mystic elbow]

Which is rly what makes her a lower tier like ES

I mean yea if youre using it when theyre already in super armor or any kind of iframe

That would be like saying iron body is bad bc I can secret arts and kill them

If u want a genuinely bad button then use OMs super armor

[warm hornet]

and CE doesn't have "good" burst options or even to continue pressure after attempting.

[mystic elbow]

I said that already

She doesnt nuke which means shes already lower tier

The problem is when u have nothing to be afraid of when a class has max mp

She doesnt nuke + kds faster which means that ppl dont have a reason to break u unless youre doing cmd dmg or rly any kind of dmg

CE does dmg just not anything crazy

But i found CE enjoyable in 2s

Way more than 1s cuz 1s just boring

[warm hornet]

CE can't really back line support that well...

other than having modded spitfire ready.

[mystic elbow]

I think you’re thinking im saying shes good in 2s.. she isnt necessarily. Shes not OM bad but shes not something to be scared of

I think she has decent buttons

And ok saving

But im just saying in 2s she felt way better to play than 1s

I also think her mp gain is rly good

[warm hornet]

because the pressure can be split or at least an ally can attempt to save you.

[mystic elbow]

Yes

Her neutral isnt anything crazy either ppl either just run into attacks or outdo u

So unless u have well

OM

Ir probably La on your team

U dont have to worry about neutral 24/7

[mental warren]

I quite enjoyed HR in PvP. Is there any guide anywhere I could study about PvP? Could be a guide for another character as well. I love to study.

[haughty sedge]

PvP guide about HR or just PvP in general?

[quiet halo]

Thx will let u know 🔥

[mental warren]

Either is well

[white valve]

I have watched Heaven's Fist Sweeper Oneshot

you're +12 soa it should be hitting pretty hard

[dull forum]

zzz until u get a carch

Catch*

Xxxxxx apam

Spam

Oki with best friend field

Or just gott them

That's the tldr

If u want extra steps

Put fesseling on them to make them regret playing this god forsaken game

👍

Forgot to add

Always download something while pvping on hr

So can fully be lore accurate HR

An anomaly

[kindred frost]

https://www.twitch.tv/mona_e_chrome/clip/VenomousCorrectFishPanicBasket-j2MH7AVgA-RudhaR

[gilded slate]

Stack MPR, get atleast 500 max MP if you can to max your Gott modifier, uhhh if you can search this on youtube '얌소' this guy has some decent HR gameplay vods you can use as a reference. Ausrottung, Fesseln, Abgrund, Chaosfeld, Befrieungfeld, Nichtsfeld and Gottvergessen are your best friends, Mauer is kinda ehhh but its funny sometimes if youre into memes. Moder is nice for managing KD too if you care about that.

[marsh plume]

become the guide

[haughty sedge]

@mental warren best tip i can give is watch what other HR players do for PvP and either play like them or create a playstyle that best suits you

If ya ever wanna spar and practice, whever im on i'd be down to spar

but with tips for general neutral, watch your opponent, use your SA commands carefully, and learn to LOVE your force actives

[marsh plume]

._.

[oblique sundial]

xxzz people three times then awk into nuke

5head hr gameplay

[warm hornet]

For some characters... they don't have to SA carefully...

[haughty sedge]

Yea cuz their whole body is a moving SA hitbox

[buoyant folio]

Lol

[heavy spear]

reinstalled the game and i can't get past 100% on the loading screen

think the universe is trying to tell me something

[lavish socket]

hey look I got SSS while chilling with some music

[noble pelican]

👍

[marsh plume]

https://tenor.com/view/motion-cat-cat-with-money-gif-2606417291215116022

if you're free don't come back

do not let the call of the void string you along

[buoyant folio]

https://tenor.com/view/pulling-the-pet-collective-cat-give-it-to-me-pull-the-string-gif-18191542

the void in question:

[clever sigil]

double that. Don't look back at the abyss you just flown out of with your hard-to attain one-way ticket.

[heavy spear]

not like i'd find any success if i came back cause i'm still undergeared and don't have the time nor energy for the grind

[empty ore]

New weapon cant be used in pvp lets go!

[full yoke]

so what? we could just use the latest wep allowed in pvp

we still are geared

or they

[mystic elbow]

The latest weapon isnt hard to get

Its actually pretty free nowadays lol

[full yoke]

which is?

soa rights?

also how its pretty free?

[mystic elbow]

They gave out the gear needed to get into ran

N it takes way less long to get the weapon n stage it

[full yoke]

oh what gear ?

do you mean the tickets for tenebrous

and +11?

[mystic elbow]

Yes

And the +10 r15 tene

[full yoke]

gotchas

[twin pawn]

the way some ppl play genesis makes genesis look bad

[buoyant folio]

Some?

[twin pawn]

yes bc there r "good" genesis

[buoyant folio]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

""good""?

||okay sorry I'll stop 😭||

[twin pawn]

by good i mean sit in super armor and frontline for me

[clever sigil]

@warm hornet gg o/

[warm hornet]

ggs

[clever sigil]

o/ my bad for the round two afking

irl slapped,

matter of fact: might be time to re-learn raven again

all of my skill points went to PGR & WF

[warm hornet]

all good.

[clever sigil]

good fight

Also any latency coming from me?

[warm hornet]

you're good.

[buoyant folio]

any quirgy MP players in chat

[kindred frost]

Bro remember when I had a hate era with bing so bad I wrote that fanfic

[buoyant folio]

?!?!

[kindred frost]

@lerne I found it

@buoyant folio

[buoyant folio]

Hi

that was definitely a moment

[kindred frost]

It was

I’m almost On my way hommmeee

[buoyant folio]

homememe

[kindred frost]

this is how we do it

[mystic elbow]

I love popcorn but the kernels keep getting stuck in my gums

[heavy spear]

i knew someone who ate popcorn with chopsticks when he didn't want to get butter all over his fingers

[kindred frost]

i feel that so hard

and you can always find it with ur tongue but neevr with your finger

[kindred frost]

thatd actually really smart

[haughty sedge]

I like popcorn but my microwave keeps blowing up whenever i heat up a bag

[kindred frost]

Not the microwave Brazilian blowout

[dull forum]

@analog sun imma type it here

Tldr: genesis has the most versatility across all 4 classes

Best neutral

cheap buttons

[fiery lion]

g.g.g has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dull forum]

Loads of crap like dominion and detention that allows him to lock down people or ignore time stops

No mercy nuke

Sin cleaver nuke

Sword trace nuke

Anti manabreak button

So since he has aerial commands

Noncommittal aerial commands

He can deal with the cancer classes

Labys eves ains etc

He can go toe to toe against em

Which the other 3 cannot reliably do

And no mercy pretty much punishes any aerial or vertical movement

So overall he is the strongest

Ke Im are tied

Ke has strong burst DMG non feedy commands tanky but lacks chasing options or utility

Immortal has sharp wound which kills movement speed making it easier to lock down people

And also ignores debuffs while cutting legs

Leg wound is such a powerful debuff

Cuz it pretty much kills movement options for most of the classes

Unless they got a button like

Jet jump

Ricochet

Etc

That sends ppl up immediately

Stuff like chasing death shift shadow step highspeed etc

Don't mean that much cuz they are horizontal

U can still chase

While in iron body

As for ignore debuff u can make classes like aes, Oz, da, etc

U can give them hell cuz they can't raw stop u

For those 3 seconds

[marsh plume]

Toe to toe as the GS aerial normal beats half my kit

[stable nymph]

if u look closely u will see that gs is actually just an eve

take note of his hair color and how he is flying feedy dirtbag

[lavish socket]

PFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

that wild man

im not above masumi not by a long shot

[full yoke]

Lies ?

[willow mural]

breh

[haughty sedge]

bruh

broh

[buoyant folio]

breh

bwoh

[heavy spear]

brot

[kindred frost]

I looked up mine, at least im on the first page

[lavish socket]

that awesome dude

[twin pawn]

checked my lithia and shes rank 17

[haughty sedge]

Im on like page 3 for adds

But that was a few days ago

[oblique sundial]

Wonder what I could get to

[haughty sedge]

nvm im on page 2 for adds

[empty ore]

Skys the limit baby, get to grnding 1s

[marsh plume]

there's like

at best 7 ppl on q at once

so it's doable

[oblique sundial]

that would require me to reinstall this game

i will not do that!!

[haughty sedge]

maintain your sanity

im just waiting for my day lmao

or when Closers PvP becomes active again

[heavy spear]

sitting here reminiscing about the old days of Dragon Nest pvp

[dull forum]

Throwback sunday 🗣️

[knotty kraken]

anyone want jelmatis

got 20 stacks

[hearty kite]

gimme

[willow mural]

that mpx skill

needs to go

🗣️ 🗣️

idk what its called but its absolutely obnoxious

[lavish socket]

u mean the one that attaches to u

if so same

[willow mural]

yeah

no cap mod e made pvp so much less fun

corny skills x450000000000

[lavish socket]

yea the only thing to do is I frame and pray it goes back to mpx

[willow mural]

it spawns on top of u and deals flinching hits

how am i supposed to counter against that

mr 2 mp bars can spam that back to back

🗿

[lavish socket]

Idk I did that once and it worked...

for some reason...

[lavish socket]

to me its the combo of mod e and IB accs expansion cuz I almost never have to worry about mp now so pvp gotten so boring

[willow mural]

forgot about that

yeah that killed it for me too

[lavish socket]

like I can get 10 mp/sec if no one come to remove me

from the field

and if ur hitting me while im in the field I get more MP on top of that

[willow mural]

barrier of entry for me is too high now

[lavish socket]

yea even SSS is hollow now

[buoyant folio]

always has been

[lavish socket]

im just an old fart that has old IBs to use

welp lets see how long AYSplayer drag me along to do raid

cuz im not doing them myself

[warm hornet]

[willow mural]

yeah the add skill gotta go

inescapable and he can snipe u off screen

im alr not a fan of offscreen oneshots cuz i think theyre corny

[empty ore]

If it makes you feel better 2v2 is even worse

Everyone having rosso force now

Not to mention its simply the fact that you're fighting the same handful of people

Who mind you have been fighting each other for near hundreds of matches previously.

[buoyant folio]

If it makes you even better, there are better things to spend your time than PvP

[lavish socket]

Time to wait like 3-4 weeks to get the patch that allows me to make an active build for TB

[marsh plume]

Thousands

[empty ore]

True, I was being generous

[tight quail]

How do u avoid CeT's telegrab?

[twin pawn]

who

[tight quail]

Centurion

when he holds u in midair

[mystic elbow]

stay out of range

[empty ore]

Ah gravity shelling.

Yeah its a hitscan. So you literally have to be out of its range.

If they are in siege stance waiting for you to approach. Then just dont

[abstract yacht]

be out of range
if you dont get close they are forced to get out of the siege

because they can't camp in it forever
it costs MP for being in stance

sounds lame counterplay but it is what it is

on the bright side you play Aisha
and Aisha loves not interacting with opponents so that's a win for you if CeT decides to camp siege

[cyan pine]

just be careful with waiting it out and being in the same spot cause if they line up perfectly they can red shell you so be up high somplace where they cannot stand at the same level to avoid

[tight quail]

Yea figthing a CeT made me remember why I have up on pvp. Its like his attacks made me flinch for so long but when I combo him he can get out of it easily without having to use escape skill

This has always been a problem for me when my attacks sometimes even doesnt flinch enemies but their attacks do, and for s long time too. And no they do not have SA

[marsh plume]

lag

also

some MUs you just afk or play passive

nothing necessarily shameful or bad

if your class thrives on passive playing that's just how it happens to be

[tight quail]

They did nerfed Aishas mp regen by half tho so they obv dont like that lol

[marsh plume]

yeah

aisha / rena mp regen was toxic

[twin pawn]

^

[tight quail]

I can see why it is the case

Seems like I csnt enjoy pvp with these delays... it just becomes too unfair

[full yoke]

where to que for the pvp event

ineed a teamate if ill play

[oblique sundial]

You're starting to understand

[tranquil summit]

💀

4v4 in 2k25

[warm hornet]

looks like hell's going lose...

[noble barn]

If anyone is looking for a partner for the 2v2 tourney let me know :))

[noble barn]

Oh I thought today was the last day 😔

[coarse geyser]

If you can find one quick might be able to squeeze you in as a sub. 🙂

[distant elm]

does anyone when brackets are released?

[lavish socket]

tomorrow ig?

[warm hornet]

@lavish socket @distant elm

[distant elm]

Thanks ays

[warm hornet]

GGs, i'm out of the tourney. my tools not good enough to cover my partner...

[clever sigil]

this feels . cursed? I see you two as the golden duo.

is the Gear power Ratio just that Dynamically imbalanced?

[mystic elbow]

No they just dk how to play 2s + char diff when it comes to CE

CE in 2s is largely a feeding bot

[hollow hound]

Yeah, CE feeds a lot.

Also I think Mod Heaven's Fist: Sweeper could be better for 2s than an active built.

2s is a way different world from 1s, so a full def built may not be the best... You could try with your SoA next time, so you can do more dmg, maybe...

[mystic elbow]

mod heaven fist would be better yes n cost pennies nowadays

def builds just raw dont work anymore bc a lot of skills ignore defense, cost pennies and r aoe so ur not avoiding it easily anyway

u might as well just do dmg

[hollow hound]

The battle of the mp gain and nuke.

[mystic elbow]

Mhm among other things

Ur mp is ur biggest resource in pvp not hp

[twin pawn]

holy losing streak i love it here

[kindred frost]

https://www.twitch.tv/mona_e_chrome/clip/SuccessfulFancySeahorseGingerPower-TPtwQWLPRlXLFhjn

[heavy spear]

reinstalled the game just to grab the free ib and i missed a day topkek

[empty ore]

Its ok

Just dont get the hat

[shrewd terrace]

coming back from having quit shortly after Twins Picaro. Has PVP changed any beyond just new explosions and missiles to throw at eachother?

Oh, and I already saw the sparring weapon and wedge.

[marsh plume]

no

it's worse

in fact

way worse

i mean

technically that's a change

(?)

[mystic elbow]

Gurl run

[shrewd terrace]

yeah, I was about to say, it looks more or less the same as before except S rank is where ppl start playing now.

haven't encountered any of the new chars, but it looks as though it's the same ol,d even with ppl having crazy gear and OHKO'ing you have you oki'd them 5 times.

[oblique sundial]

Id rather get oneshot than setplayed

5 minute unskipable cutscene or death in 30 seconds

[dull forum]

Das what I'm saying

Sit there vs the pink rat with the kit to answer anything

But they broke so they do z

[shrewd terrace]

oomphie.

[shrewd terrace]

. . .

this is the highest i've ever been. And I just got it off a dude that didn't mana-break.

and i'm just using a AP Violet Re5 gear.

correction. Re6 (3/4) Re8(1/4) +9(2/4) +8(2/4)

with a +10 FoJ which can't possibly be meta at this point. . .?

[lavish socket]

SS just means ur a liitle above average player...

SSS is where all the old vets and whales are

[shrewd terrace]

I noticed. I ran into luxurious faction right after reaching SS.

I thought where the average sat would go down with time for some reason, but it only went up even though it looks as though player competency went down.

also, I haven't seen a single Noah, Laby or Lithia. do they just automatically get into SS for being broken?

oh, nope.

[shrewd terrace]

says this
immediately encounters a geared EtW.

[lavish socket]

welcome to elsword pvp

or what left of it

[shrewd terrace]

Yeah, I thought it couldn't be worse. But it is and I haven't even encoutnered the broken chars yet.

that person I just fought just got KO'd at full MP, and not by a strong skill but by him failed for the 2nd time to realize C:U can infinite if she chooses to loop 4 actives.

[lavish socket]

1v1 is whoever catches first most of the time

or one shot kill

[shrewd terrace]

too much snowballing? figures. would I even be able to get 3v3 matches below S rank though?

*2v2.

also wasn't there a special item you could buy once you get to double-S rank?

[lavish socket]

yea

its only worth it in SSS

as it scales off ur rank

[shrewd terrace]

nono, not the accessories, you can buy those before SS rank.

I mean, wasn't there an item that only became available to buy once you hit SS.

[lavish socket]

if there is idk then

once ur above 50% that when the real hell happens

[shrewd terrace]

yeah I fought a tripleS in the ranking matches for getting S rank. . .

yeah i'd probably be best of doing 2v2 if I had setups for it.

[noble barn]

Were u the CU fighting a Devi by chance?

[shrewd terrace]

😮 something like that happened, yeah.

[dull forum]

u dont need that much

just +11 soa s3~5 or vos s5
+9 duelist is fine if u got handles
unique forces
a good ib wep
and random pieces for ibs

[twin pawn]

[dull forum]

@twin pawn

do you know

anybody with SS black crown.

[twin pawn]

no

[shrewd terrace]

so why does lithia's 2nd route have an option to hit through platforms from above?

like, she's above the platform and hits you who are below it????

[shrewd terrace]

._. Furious Engage still does not work?

Also why are Twilight mains still not using [Fatality]?

[twin pawn]

simply because generosity is large

and hitstuns

its the same with mod lightning bolt on La

[shrewd terrace]

no, she's got a normal that does it.

oh no. S-ranks can fight SSS rank, and SS rank can fight A rank????????

[dull forum]

^xxx

it has a really really big disjointed hitbox

[twin pawn]

ph that

[twin pawn]

fund me

[heavy spear]

how's surya in 1s

(not that i'd make one now but maybe Eventually)

[mystic elbow]

Busted

[willow mural]

never beat a star rank on them b4 =V

SSS*

i cant read apparently

[lavish socket]

That looks like a collections Alt

But hey congrats

[willow mural]

a w is a w

havent gotten this in a while

i stopped caring

[oblique sundial]

you havent truely stopped caring until you uninstall the game

[willow mural]

i do miss having that at the beginning of my name tho

[heavy spear]

oh whoa, a dem beating a CA

noice

i kind of want to experience blanket looping for myself but at the same time i also dont want to touch pvp again

[lavish socket]

once your SSS u either

go thru hell for star

or just dont enter until the next season

[abstract yacht]

yeh just drop pvp for the chair

[empty ore]

You know

I wonder how R21 Rigo is now compared to Duelist

[knotty kraken]

how to get better at pvp

[fiery lion]

.paeq has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[knotty kraken]

yes im still trash

ik

[hollow hound]

Hey! That's my line!

[knotty kraken]

so?

[knotty kraken]

yea im just horrible at pvp

hardstuck s rank now

guess thats just where my limit is

[hollow hound]

I am joking...

[knotty kraken]

i aint

straight trash at this

only interesting thing in this game and im stuck in the same rank as people afking for fighters

[empty ore]

Basically

[empty ore]

Lets just cut all the fat, you are bad and you suck. Accept it and use it as a tool to grow.

Fight people better than you, record your matches and let people critique you.

I saw you fighting that FP in arena yesterday.

Why you still using OoR, you cant be saying you suck while trying to be a memer.

[analog sun]

rekt

[knotty kraken]

cuz i run a double attack build and oor synergizes will with it

and i have tried recording my matches and posting them here

its basically 'ooh you shouldve done this here'

like that helps at all

[lavish socket]

if u want to be where the old farts are at just 2v2

if u want to keep ur sanity do fun sparing matches with people cuz arena is not going to give you that

also high level elsword pvp is knowing what the server is going to do before you see it alot of the time

[knotty kraken]

To: The Gods of PvP that reside here,

I come here to request your assistance with my matter of utmost unimportance. For you see, I am completely stupid and unable to find the major flaws in my arena matches. I would hope that the proof provided below will be sufficient enough to assist in showing me the error of my ways. Thank you for acknowledging this petty existence and sparing your precious time to entertain this worthless thought.

Sincerely,
This sentient pile of worthless garbage currently known as paeq.

[warm hornet]

i would say, you played the matchup pretty amazingly.

it's ether you have low~ish defense, or it's just that the raven has a stronger weapon than you.