pvp

[twin pawn]

i usually function under the assumption that mpx has something at all times by late game which is just incredibly annoying to deal with

ara i can deal with, luciel i want to be able to see what that 2nd bar looks like when they havent switched

[empty ore]

The Mp:DP ratio is heavily unbalanced. And not to mention he seems to get more DP depending on how hard he gets hit??

[mystic elbow]

especially luciel...

[twin pawn]

like a lot of chars i dont need to see their resources bc a lot of them are generally self explanatory

[mystic elbow]

i can see luciel players then complaining about other characters not showing their extra resource

[twin pawn]

the thing is w luciel its literally just an mp bar

bc i dont actually care about their combo points

[mystic elbow]

id care if they were the original ones

but yea they dont do anythin now

i think its crazy luciel basically had two extra resources that are hidden from everyone else

[twin pawn]

like if im already able to see ur mp bar i should b able to see both

[empty ore]

combo points are a non issue now.

[twin pawn]

and mpx i think is just stupid bc i never know what he does and doesnt have

bc he'll break to 0 and im getting hit with a grav field or something

like okay

[abstract yacht]

not sure if you're disagreeing or agreeing.

I said that I'd only consider that resources should display for those who use them as MP because of how it can fool and bait you into pressure, with Devi as just an example

but that I would not consider it for everyone else who doesn't use it as MP because those who doesn't use it as MP is useless information (such as the mentioned examples of Els, elesis, chung, rena, ain, noah)

[mystic elbow]

im running on day 3 w/o proper sleep

im saying there shouldn't be an option for devi to hide her resources basically,

but either way a player should be cautious either way

devi gets orbs as easily as breathing

[abstract yacht]

iirc he just gets more DP than MP because it's still technically his awk gauge

so
yknow
Awk charge makes him get more of it.. and it's far easier to stack awk charge over MP gain (not to mention MP burns don't affect it)

AWK duration makes him consume less DP through commands... I'm not sure how that interacts with skills however

.. no wait u also right he does get more DP the harder he gets hit, I guess it's a conversion formula where HP% lost = DP% up

[dull forum]

Surya always has convert up

It's literally 15mp

[mystic elbow]

Yea she always has it up as a button but its only when she has full energy that she can just continue to loop it without issue

Otherwise shes losing a chunk of mp

[twin pawn]

yea

she runs the risk of losing mp if she just spams it without being full orbs

[dull forum]

I mean

All her kit is

The iron body n the tracking tena

To be annoying

[twin pawn]

actives

for orbs

its easier to press her actives once shes caught you for full orbs than spamming convert bc she will need to mb eventually

but overall her gameplan is the same yes

[dull forum]

Orbs in general are easy to know

[twin pawn]

convert and toss charm

[dull forum]

I think the take on the moon phase system being whatever bob to know it's kinda troll

Specially for 2s

[twin pawn]

i feel like moon is pretty easy

bc LBs will like

always be full moon to press their nuke

[dull forum]

A smart lib would cycle them around tho

I understand the full moon is easier mpr

But half moon dropping the cds drastically can make a huge dif

[twin pawn]

well yea they cycle bc they have to but in general they use nuke on full just so they dont drop too much mp

[fiery lion]

wynnter has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[twin pawn]

oops

i think fm mpr needs a nerf bc wth is that

he tosses a mod ambush basically for free ur not devi u freak

[dull forum]

Yeah it's free

But can we talk about the actual most dumb mech in the game tho

[lethal echo]

gabe thoughts on me asking for fp buffs

[twin pawn]

but for me orbs r easy to tell if its an ara bc like she gets them so easy its easier to function under the assumption shes either at 0 or 10

for devi assume shes at 5 or 10

[dull forum]

Can we get rid of eve core shield

[lethal echo]

we should

[mystic elbow]

Hehehehe

[twin pawn]

eve core funny

[mystic elbow]

Eve core is so funny

[twin pawn]

me reversaling u bc core proc'd

[lethal echo]

been a thing for too long

[twin pawn]

nyehe

[mystic elbow]

I dont have the eve player buff yet so it dont be working like it work for CA players

[twin pawn]

i think we should also just delete redheads and blues

as god intended

[lethal echo]

leave chung alone

[twin pawn]

[dull forum]

Unironically the most annoying unnecessary unhealthy thing in the game

[twin pawn]

hell no

[mystic elbow]

I agri

[twin pawn]

blues should all die

[dull forum]

If eve can have it give it back to raven

[lethal echo]

fp is such a baby sry

[mystic elbow]

Blues should all die

[twin pawn]

fp shld die

delete all blues

[lethal echo]

ssays the lithia player

thats wild.

[twin pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/olivia-wilde-olivia-olivia-wilde-shaking-head-olivia-wilde-bobbing-head-olivia-wilde-head-gif-26662105

[dull forum]

Also jushi idm ppl asking for buffs when we got multiple Hitler's

In the q

[twin pawn]

i dont even pvp on lithia

[dull forum]

Lol

[lethal echo]

I JUST WANT ABETER NUKE MAN

[twin pawn]

i pvp on devi

[lethal echo]

how is star doing w bp

[mystic elbow]

Does that mean I can ask for a super crazy boom on Shakti

[lethal echo]

oh

ye

[dull forum]

Bro stack heavy rail gun

[lethal echo]

ur a terrorist

[dull forum]

Lol

[fiery lion]

jushiroh has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[twin pawn]

as god intended

[mystic elbow]

Smoked

[dull forum]

Jsmoked

[lethal echo]

hm>.

sorry

sorry bot

[twin pawn]

watch ur profanity

[dull forum]

????

[twin pawn]

im telling

[fiery lion]

jushiroh has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lethal echo]

???? ??

[dull forum]

Spell thunder???

[twin pawn]

get rekt

[dull forum]

WHAT

[lethal echo]

BRo

[dull forum]

why r we saying Shakti don't got

[twin pawn]

one more and ur out

[dull forum]

An 80mp boom

[lethal echo]

wasnt enough to bypass

[dull forum]

Like what

[lethal echo]

LMAO

[twin pawn]

but also yeah lithias stupid

KO is so funny im sorry

[mystic elbow]

What mine isnt 80 mp

[twin pawn]

ur hp exists and then it doesnt

[dull forum]

R u picking light thunder

[mystic elbow]

Why would i take light thunder

[dull forum]

If u pick heavy thunder that's troll

[twin pawn]

if it makes u feel better my devi is squishy

[dull forum]

Bro

Ur main DMG button which is a tenacity does 300k

[mystic elbow]

That aint troll im pretty sure i ran light thunder by someone a while ago

My main dmg button is

Everything

On the bar

[dull forum]

What's the point on bringing 2 bazookas

[mystic elbow]

Everything does dmg bbg

Dont everyone bring 2 bazookas

[dull forum]

Think it this way

If u have

Thunder at 80mp

That means a boom

Free pressure

And they sure as hell won't tank it

It's literally the better option

[twin pawn]

um no!!!

the ravens in queue will tank it

[mystic elbow]

i started out with light thunder and got clowned for it

[dull forum]

I'm js the benefits outweigh the less DMG

Bro

Those the ppl who be putting crit traits on skills

[twin pawn]

i put heavy on rak inferno but i dont like it

[mystic elbow]

forget al that

[twin pawn]

but i think they got rid of haste

[mystic elbow]

i want

TP tier booms

bc im bitter.

[twin pawn]

tp has about 75 diff booms

[mystic elbow]

yea

[dull forum]

Mod spell blade is a book

Boom

If u cancel it

Js

Js

Js

[fiery lion]

bigwoofles has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dull forum]

Joy

[mystic elbow]

IDC ABOUT THE BOT

[twin pawn]

punched

[mystic elbow]

i hate ara skill cancel

Devi has it easy by being able to high speed and be done

im cooked if i didn't get the catch or dont have enough mp for stance 4 (?) idr the skill name

not mp

energy

[twin pawn]

naurrr high speed isnt always gooooodddddd

:3c

[mystic elbow]

me when i lie

[dull forum]

But yeah Cassian just swap to light thunder

[twin pawn]

?!

[dull forum]

☠️☠️☠️

[mystic elbow]

?

log in big bro

lets dmg test

[dull forum]

And high speed is the freest active than an Ara can have

[mystic elbow]

yea it should be all ara's

i wish i had that

;/

[twin pawn]

im trolling i love hs

my favorite button ever

[mystic elbow]

or at least aps counter even tho it sucks

[dull forum]

If shift was high speed

The amount of things I could do

But guess what

[twin pawn]

i hate they removed the high jump off it

[dull forum]

Mine is light hitstun

:)

[twin pawn]

ur an ad youll b ok

[mystic elbow]

🤣 🫵

[twin pawn]

ur a red

just bumrush them

[dull forum]

Yeah I'm ok

CUZ IM THE GOATED AD

🗣️

[mystic elbow]

die

;/

[lethal echo]

we all know jhhh is the true ad goat

[mystic elbow]

anyways TP tier boom

[twin pawn]

theyre an fl rn no

[mystic elbow]

give me 100 mp SA field

[twin pawn]

wait theyre on my fl

[lethal echo]

rn ye

[twin pawn]

i actually hate that button

[lethal echo]

i miss abusing godtier ad

[twin pawn]

that and awesome are so disgusting

[mystic elbow]

i love abusing that button

so much

idky TPs press anything else

[dull forum]

I cooked u n hlz on +9 Walmart gear ad

[lethal echo]

i had 100degree fever that day

(yasu excuse)

[twin pawn]

i just know the jhhh person is on my devi fl

and idr why

or when

[dull forum]

Bro when I won king of elsword 1 I had the COVID boost shot I was shaking

[lethal echo]

whos ur devi

[twin pawn]

uh

[lethal echo]

it was prolly

[twin pawn]

Lust

[mystic elbow]

not Winter

:(

[twin pawn]

er

Forgive

[lethal echo]

dancie adding u

[twin pawn]

i was forgive when they added me

[lethal echo]

but im online on jhh sometimes

[twin pawn]

JUMP

[mystic elbow]

hehe

[twin pawn]

OFF A BRIDGE

[mystic elbow]

my covid booster just gave me chills

[lethal echo]

i had covid 3x

[twin pawn]

i wouldve preferred envy

[mystic elbow]

3am im shaking in my bed for no reason

[twin pawn]

so i could put it on my MC

[dull forum]

I remember

[mystic elbow]

thats just natural selection atp jushirou

[twin pawn]

how the hell do u get covid 3c

3x

[dull forum]

Dropping the 1 game on cargo airship to hero

[lethal echo]

:/

bro

[dull forum]

And I was like gotta lock in

[twin pawn]

girl jus die at that point

[lethal echo]

once was bc of a workmate

2nd time i dont rmb

3rd my brother

gave it to me

[twin pawn]

nothing will ever be funnier

than u saying smoked

and the fallout

[mystic elbow]

when i got covid my mom said "its allergies"

[twin pawn]

that was soooooo funny

[mystic elbow]

then she got covid off me

;/

[dull forum]

☠️☠️☠️

[mystic elbow]

justified crash out

[twin pawn]

i was giggling so bad

[dull forum]

Pov I roll unigiri on my team

[twin pawn]

like whoaaaa

me bc i was dealing with libra ytd

and id rather have unigiri

😭

[dull forum]

Pov I roll eltrionmk9 on my team

[twin pawn]

unigiri wont throw

[mystic elbow]

idk what button libra was pressing

its like

[twin pawn]

idk what it was

[dull forum]

Demonic rush

[mystic elbow]

a pinkish vertical skill

[twin pawn]

but it wasnt

[mystic elbow]

and

[twin pawn]

doing damage

[mystic elbow]

yea

[dull forum]

WAIT CASSIAN

[mystic elbow]

hi

[dull forum]

I gotta show u

A clip I got

Secret clip

But I'm js I'm the Kobe of es

[mystic elbow]

breh

kobe is dead..

pick sm1 else.....

Trey could never

this'll b the clip i use to gaslight the ES is bad claims

[lethal echo]

buff fp

[fiery lion]

g.g.g has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lethal echo]

Get warned

[mystic elbow]

Wth did u even say

[kindred frost]

When I’m upset cause I’m doing bad in 2s and smooching tells me to shut up and play better

https://youtube.com/shorts/13V6HpDZenk?si=ZRLcuhDqlQX8LPMa

[twin pawn]

premade and i keep getting divine ninja

my favorite

[lethal echo]

day 5002 asking for fp buffs

[sinful anvil]

wats problem wit divineninja lil bro?

[hollow hound]

G U A R D I A N S T R I K E

D E V A S T A T I N G S T R I K E

[warm hornet]

I'll tank those.

[twin pawn]

hes a rage hearts

[buoyant folio]

Upi

re

a

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160117278117994526.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[hollow hound]

How do some people mb and still have almost the same amount of mana from before.

O.o

[kindred frost]

wasnt there like a title that give ppl the same mp when they mana break?

[twin pawn]

theres not a single title that does that in pvp

[kindred frost]

i cant remmeber i thought something did that

you got 30 mp whne you mana break

[twin pawn]

GoE gives 10 and im p sure nobody in NA has concerto yet who pvps

[kindred frost]

ah okay

[warm hornet]

the new raid title, it give a Full MP 100 MP refund on mana break.
in PvE

but it's 20 MP for PvP.

[abstract yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949589674618396713/1287193704213254194/disgusting.mp4?ex=6769494d&is=6767f7cd&hm=b2c63a1c962191eb6b212a8c242b33e0528902a3cadf48761c3d74368b2ffe2d&

[buoyant folio]

Ah yes get rid of the punishment system that is a get out of jail card

What could ever go wrong

[lethal echo]

Well coming back with 0 mp in current meta makes no sense

10/20mp is fine

[abstract yacht]

I remember they mentioned smth about revamping mana break

so...

where update

[clever sigil]

Comingsoon.nvr

[empty ore]

Never forget that release Ainchase ishmeal could break for 50mp

[abstract yacht]

there are a lot of things to remember from Ain's release tbf

still lenze freezing you for a solid 5s
double EE healing infinitely
Fragarach being able to be used mid-hit
that dash trap skill of EE as well being able to be used mid-hit

[empty ore]

Arme Thaumaturgy healing from Autosuggestion

[rich quail]

Not having a getup animation so he could just go straight from KD to a skill.

[oblique sundial]

Platzen made everything an unbreakable infinite

Air dash infinite was cool though, dunno why they killed it

[buoyant folio]

95% mana regen after manabreak 😎

[hollow hound]

https://youtu.be/zLluRvyUI6I?si=k3yKmjNTM9Oscc23

[abstract yacht]

KoG: we will now proceed to provide PvE and PvP tooltips

also KoG: what if we released Ain without them?

EE 6% healing per sec over 11s

[oblique sundial]

it was great because the field also hit like a truck

[lethal echo]

whowanna play

[hollow hound]

💀

I would like to but...

I am a C rank.

[lethal echo]

but

damn

its ok come play for fun

[mystic elbow]

Me when I lie

[hollow hound]

😂 👍

So much fun.

Bro, PO abusing dark.

Horrible.

A nightmare.

[lethal echo]

Yeaah

[hollow hound]

I am just mesmerized.

[warm hornet]

no amount of Dark resist can save you from that.

[hollow hound]

Like, how do you even go past that?

[warm hornet]

did you know... >>XX~X doesn't have a lot of knockdown rate?

[hollow hound]

[warm hornet]

it's still there, but much less than chain tapping X

[willow mural]

Its a chung so it's ok

[kindred frost]

NAH CAUSE SERIOUSLY

THEY WERE THE FIRST PERSON I GOT IN 2s

I was thinking of getting off after

[oblique sundial]

i deal with dark po players by timing them out

if you dont want to play the game thats fine bro

im patient

[buoyant folio]

Emo Po

[hollow hound]

Nooo, he is one of the nicest Chungs you would ever met. 😢

[cyan quail]

Champion accs + high enough ressistances

Didn't seem like they were that geared when they used the lightning skill unfortunately

But it was quite refreshing to see a PO

[warm hornet]

video is unavailable.

:v

[buoyant folio]

hardcore unavailable

[kindred frost]

I hate thia game man

imagine having all your hp gone by one skill

didnt even have time to react

[lavish socket]

well there always next time.... just be a psychic and predict every move to win

[kindred frost]

ikr?

[lavish socket]

tbh ur best chance to beat someone that has better gear is that or get lucky and dodge all one shot skills in the match and dont die

from other attacks

[kindred frost]

What’s the best way to understand the “flowchart” of elsword? Is it something you learn natural are there like resources you could read up on about it

Ik it’s general is a series of interactions that work or don’t work between two characters but idk much else

[buoyant folio]

WE hate this game comrade.

[kindred frost]

https://tenor.com/view/cccp-flag-wave-star-logo-gif-16196191

OUR hatred

[empty ore]

https://youtu.be/7RWItuJtHkQ

She came back

[kindred frost]

This got nothing to do with elsword I just occasionally post my drips in here

I JUST LOVE HOW IT CAME OUT 😩

[sinful anvil]

@frosty salmon

[willow mural]

Only thing that's missing is a beret, slayed

[kindred frost]

NOOO BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE A BERET TOO AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT BUT I DECIDED AGAINST IT 😭

[willow mural]

IT STILL ROCKS BRO

[celest ore]

wait they're here??

[clever sigil]

Speaking of drip, How's the Keyboard treating you?

[kindred frost]

I’m loving it!!!

[heavy spear]

bedgrudgingly returning because of the +11 vos

think i'll give it to my dem

[haughty sedge]

it needs to hurry up LMAO

this +10 FoJ is showings its age

and i can progress further in arena

[heavy spear]

2000 is as far away as 2050

[haughty sedge]

why is SS rank so far away from me man lmao

closest i got was 91% and i keep getting hit with SS ranks who out dmg me and i do nothing - even with my +11 VoS

[mystic elbow]

Whats your gear

N how much money/ed r u willing to spend to fix it

[lavish socket]

Yeah unfortunately I have contributed to him not getting double SS cuz I was AP farming

[mystic elbow]

He should just win then

[buoyant folio]

:angri:

[marsh plume]

have you considered

you might b missing smt else

erp artifacts ib accesories resists

mystics mpr red dmg maxi

[clever sigil]

PyroManiac on a mennacing killing spree

[haughty sedge]

Yeah I'm still missing my artifact stuff, and I'm kinda broke cuz of transferring all my stuff from my FoJ to my VoS

And im resocketing my gear

I didn't think artifact would matter in pvp tho

[cyan quail]

It changes everything

[mystic elbow]

Thats y i asked what your gear is

It does matter n now u can pretty much get some decent ones for free

[kindred frost]

When you PvP and get rekt your first match

[empty ore]

Whos gonna tell em

[cyan quail]

No because it quite literally changes everything

[haughty sedge]

alright, next priority is to get it finished then

[kindred frost]

Best thing about artifacts is that since the actual set affect is all PvP colors don’t matter

Get you a top with def or hp highest number

Whatever skill you stack, bravery or strength, some people do command damage and just coast

Mag/phy attack rings too

Circlet for maximize

[haughty sedge]

Got it, def gonna look into that

Atm im at 36.25 dmgr, so i think when i get the chest and spec it, i think I'll be capped

[kindred frost]

Pve*

[abstract yacht]

understandable, it's easy to gloss over artifacts since most of its stuff are "(dungeon only)"

[oblique sundial]

hol up have we really not had a balance patch since september

[twin pawn]

we arent gonna be getting one till april

[oblique sundial]

damn

thats rough

[haughty sedge]

i can smell DB buffs

[kindred frost]

lf> dummy

[haughty sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-17640294432761192580

[kindred frost]

WE GET THOOOSEE

[haughty sedge]

HECK YEAAAA

[lethal echo]

@dull forum how u feel abt ascending dragon

[dull forum]

Good ib

Even better with ib slots

[lethal echo]

i wanna run the 2/4

on fp

[kindred frost]

whats good pvp synergy for phy char/ca
I got blessing spirit and fourth path, woking on phy specialist now

[kindred frost]

making an rv

[oblique sundial]

Rv is a reason to quit playing the game

[willow mural]

Arnold what are these pfp

Don't tell me that's your namesake

[kindred frost]

Rv be making me so mad with those heavy hit stuns

I don’t have long before the t virus takes over

It’s too late for me.

I love you all, I’ll never forget you in the astral plane

[haughty sedge]

quit RV while your ahead

follow the path of the blade and the blade alone

or do what i did and JUST BEAT EVERYTHING UP-

[buoyant folio]

or main MP

[kindred frost]

oh nah this is just a synergy char

my autistic adhd hyper-fixation self probably wont main anything other than eve until i die

[haughty sedge]

fair

but add does have some sauce haha

[oblique sundial]

my namesake is actually arnold palmer flavored arizona iced tea

[willow mural]

Oh

[clever sigil]

good.

Don't let me hear the words "I main RV now" come out of your mouth

[empty ore]

I cant believe the ADHD brain will keep you CA forever

[kindred frost]

Mitsu when mona is maining ca: mean yeah that class is busted but like Mona actually tries

Mitus is Mona mained rv: ....do I know you?

[kindred frost]

i kinda wanna break out of it myself

[clever sigil]

Simply Put:

you'll be a mennance with RV.

and also, you'll be hit with the potential -100 or +100 aura by going with raven.

[kindred frost]

@warm hornet wow we did that run with me pvp stuff on

[full yoke]

anyone wants to help onto pvp for me?

also mitsu are you a raven ik?

[haughty sedge]

What do you need help with?

General tips, leaning a character, or gear?

[dull forum]

If you're raven swap to move in to southamerica or just downgrade your connection to 5mb/s use defense build and play as passive and non interactive as you can

[full yoke]

I am a nova main @haughty sedge @dull forum

And I don't wanna swap sadly

[dull forum]

It's ok

Your character is a 1:1 tier 1 greaser

[haughty sedge]

Okay so not a RV, we are good

[full yoke]

And I want a general

[dull forum]

Are you only doing 1:1 or 2:2

[full yoke]

Rv is bad ?

[dull forum]

Rv is the most lame raven

[haughty sedge]

Nova is pretty fun, but i need to finish my job path and get him geared

[full yoke]

Prob 1v1 more idk why to do 2vW

[dull forum]

Cuz he lives in unchallenged superamror

[haughty sedge]

no, RV is a PvP war criminal

[dull forum]

Superarmor

[full yoke]

Rv is broken iknow

[dull forum]

Rv/ni are the lame chars

Ni cuz u literally have ignite on an active

[full yoke]

My nova lost flame sword furry shakes my head

[dull forum]

U don't need that no kizzy

[full yoke]

Ignite on a passive ?

How ?

[dull forum]

Ok so

Mental crash

Raw makes it so u cannot get mp

Besides natural mp per second

So u can drop mental crash on someone

Farm 100mp

[full yoke]

Ah

[dull forum]

And they get 3

[full yoke]

That's what ignite does gotcha

Yeah I fought a nova against me that just spammed it and smoke bomb

Slowly hit me

[dull forum]

NI is super greasy w that

Ueah

[full yoke]

Heavy hit stuns

[dull forum]

That's optimal ni

Maximizing your DMG w no feed

[haughty sedge]

in defense for NI

[full yoke]

Also I found Chu g hits to heavy hit stuns how do I counter that ?

[haughty sedge]

he does have some sauce :o

[full yoke]

Sauce ?

[dull forum]

Fancy stuff

But literally if hes just trying to win

No point doing all that

[haughty sedge]

^ sadly yes

[dull forum]

Depends on how you have fun

[haughty sedge]

i do it cause its sends a message

[full yoke]

Isee

[haughty sedge]

but to be fair

i play FB

[full yoke]

Don't mess with me peasant )

How do I counter heavy stuns from something like Chung ?

[dull forum]

U dont

Just don't get caught

[full yoke]

Rips

[dull forum]

There's no counter to heavy hitstuns

Or hitstuns in genral

[full yoke]

Also forgot to say I am a player that rarely manabreaks

[dull forum]

Aside from escape skilling

Yeah u not making it past s-ss with that

Specially in today's environment

[haughty sedge]

^

[dull forum]

Everybody has a nuke at 100mp and up

So u not breaking is signing your own death specially in 1s

[haughty sedge]

some even cheaper if they build their skills right

[dull forum]

Literally

[haughty sedge]

i can tank like

[dull forum]

1:1 is resource war the game

[haughty sedge]

15% of your HP

with mod pulse cannon

[full yoke]

I was ss and I am ss rank

[haughty sedge]

and adding nasod combo crash

[dull forum]

It's a super snowbally game mode in which tanking/giving resources to your opponent most of the time guarantees a loss

[full yoke]

I was SSS*

[dull forum]

How long ago

[full yoke]

Well like 2 seasons

Now I am ss

[dull forum]

So 3-4 months ago?

[full yoke]

Also I faced an immortal he one shot me with sword fall

[dull forum]

Yeah

[full yoke]

No longer than that sorry

[dull forum]

Sounds about right

[full yoke]

8-12

[dull forum]

Well to give u an idea

[full yoke]

42 damage reduce

[dull forum]

What's ur hp and raw defense

[full yoke]

4.2k ithink

N 550 hp

I'll sent my stats give me a sec to log in

[dull forum]

Mp cost?

But yes like

I can spar you whenever I'm home if u wanna

[full yoke]

also i dont elresosance page for pvp

sadly i have 1 for exp and 1 for pure damage on dungeons

also this is without my rings in

and mana neclass

cause sub class

here is proof that iwas sss sometime

[dull forum]

Nice ratio

[full yoke]

thats good i supose?

[dull forum]

U have to fix ur mp cost

That's awful

[full yoke]

sadly i have no page for pvp

and i am stacking hp

[dull forum]

I suppose you're using violet

Or duelist

[full yoke]

i dont find it appiling for 2 mana cost

2 mana cost per item so 8 %

Violet or duelist better?

So?

[empty ore]

Now that I think about it

Did the remove IM's mp burn on conwell hits

No they didnt

Im surprised, i remember that being such a problem surprised its not anymore

[full yoke]

welp yeah haha

ithink ppl stoped plaiying him or reached star rank

[dull forum]

The thing is

Mp cost has waaaay better value compared to hp

Cuz hp u can get it thru ide

Ids and enhancement

U cannot get mp cost aside from dignity sockets

Weapon effects

Or ice burner effects

Rn you have 5% +8 from duelist that's 13 +8% from ERP that's 21% if you have artifact with 5% that's another 2% in pvp that's 23% mp cost

That's before socketing any crit/mp cost sockets

It holds more value nowadays cuz it means it's waaaay cheaper to trade actives and special actives

If you manabreak let's say from 120 to 20

Youre actually gonna have a button to press

Compared to nothing

So it's definitely game changing

My biggest example is

Since I've played raven too

They increased the cost of shadow step

From 20 to 55mp

[full yoke]

thru ide?

also is duelist or violet better?

[dull forum]

Through item identifications

[full yoke]

i have no erp pvp page sadly

[dull forum]

Also duelist imo is better

Just cuz all the stats on it are u normalized

Unnormalized

[full yoke]

ah

[dull forum]

Example

[full yoke]

gotcha isee

[dull forum]

Shadow step base cost 55

If u pick light trait

38

Assuming you have mp cost to 30%

It goes down to 27

[full yoke]

i see

shadow step has light and what else?

[dull forum]

Light and haste

5 second cd vs 38 mp cost

Imo the mp cost is waaaay better

Ur paying 40mp assuming no mpr

Aka 40% of a manabreak

[full yoke]

hm ithinkihave amnesia books and they are cheap

andithinki have the cdr

i use it for movement on dungeon

[dull forum]

It got nerfed not too long ago

[full yoke]

althout i have a pvp page

yeah i know

[dull forum]

For dungeons is w.e since u can pot

Use potions

To give you an idea how ridiculous mp cost is

Herrshers nuke

Mod gottvergesen or w.e

Costs 300 mp

Assuming they have 30+ mp cost plus their passives

It goes to 108mp

[full yoke]

wew

cdr wise thu

[dull forum]

Wym

[full yoke]

i mean howmuch cdr he needs to spam it

[dull forum]

Hr has built in CDR passives

Sooooo

Idt he needs any assuming he can cycle his buttons properly

But yeah like just try to get at minimum 20% mp cost

[full yoke]

oh isee

gothca

What's better save up for page or reset scroll ?

[dull forum]

What's ur erp

[full yoke]

231-4

I have the free page for exp

And my other is pure damage things for raid

[clever sigil]

maybe . . . .Maybe not.

[clever sigil]

quesiton is , whose more lamer than the other? NI or RV?

[full yoke]

Do you have me as a friend aalenwanh213

Rv

My brother beat me with rv spam

[dull forum]

R

Rv

[full yoke]

With void when I am on vos

[dull forum]

Rv has 4 booms

[full yoke]

4 booms ? Boons?

[dull forum]

Booms

Low cost skills that allow you time stop

To catch people

[full yoke]

He was spamming crepar fog and that hand thing

[dull forum]

Exactly

You intentionally whiff the button

To go plus and close distance

Think of it like the world in jojis

Jojo's

[full yoke]

Yeah also he has insane damage and ignore

Lso bleed

[clever sigil]

i won't deny that RV's Skills are . . . .disgusting.

But I do believe that most of the cast got some . . . interesting tech, mainly 4th paths. But I'm down to some RV Skill balancing (PVPWISE. )

[clever sigil]

hand thing, [Invasion]?

[full yoke]

Mean while our super srmors are linear and my sword flury is gone

[clever sigil]

and, ign-wise: seems that you don't ring a bell to me

but im curious if i did fight you.

[full yoke]

The 100 mana one

We did raid i think

Try to add me in game

[clever sigil]

LF> Middair Flame sword Flurry to be like OG Bursting blade Pre-Renewal

[full yoke]

Yeah we lost. Alot of anti air counter messors

Counter measures

[clever sigil]

Cruel attack

right.

[full yoke]

Yeah

Also with core it's annoying to deal with

But I don't wanna swap from nova my main sadly

[clever sigil]

as much as I say that RV's kit is bonkers, the 4th paths make me let go of my guilt.

[full yoke]

Yeah haha

[clever sigil]

especially since they can have a good chunk of coverage and can potentially be oppressive

and, Don't swap your class

make another raven

JOIN US.

[full yoke]

I remember when overheating ment something for our raven rn dosent do muxh

[clever sigil]

MAKE ALL THE RAVENS

(plus make a base raven)

[full yoke]

I have em all

And I don't want a base raven cause of it being limited

[clever sigil]

that's the fun part about it :v

[full yoke]

No CP no skills and I get he's kit on all ravens as they evolve

Well maximum canon is the best thing about it

[clever sigil]

It's like doing a Melee-only ACVD Fight

[full yoke]

Acvd ?

[clever sigil]

except you got lower stats

Armored Core: Verdict Day

[full yoke]

Oh

[clever sigil]

but back to the case of RV:

you'll have to do some sacrificing (via stoic abuse to deal with some of his skills)

[full yoke]

Stoic abuse?

[clever sigil]

along with being aware of how he approaches: EG: >>^XXX having massive travel

stoic- super armor

also gotta look at how often they do it,

and when they do it

[full yoke]

Ah I use xxx or dash zzz then fist active to try to get those

[clever sigil]

eg: they do it while you're both near the ends of a platform? prep your stoic, or use a "Mod breaking fist"

[full yoke]

With flame sword sa

[clever sigil]

nice

. matter of fact, you did hit SS before, so I'm sure yyou don't need my unsolicited advice XD

[full yoke]

Cause those skills let me hit em as I turn they are fadt

Yeah but I am getting one shot with 42 Dr and 550 k hp

[clever sigil]

only thing that's a bit iffy,

is if they do play optimally, preserve their MP

[full yoke]

And I lost to a nova weaker than me smh

[clever sigil]

and resort to optimal combo > Awk catch > Invade

[full yoke]

Althought he was slick

[clever sigil]

who was their name?

if you can recall

[full yoke]

Presumably a hacker is what ithough but I don't have proof

Yamik----

Won't say full

[clever sigil]

.

don't think i heard of them.

[full yoke]

Cause I don't want to acuse

[clever sigil]

did they suddenly have a bunch of "Status effects" on their character?

[full yoke]

I remember hes name

[clever sigil]

like the whole "SKill hacking" incident?

[full yoke]

I don't know about that

He just had eclipse and dealt more and took less damage than freed shadow

It could be skill issue

But I was asking him why and hownever answered me

Also he was guildless

So no skill guild

[clever sigil]

......... were you rocking duelist weapon? +11 VoS? (corrected for clarity)

now im even more curious

[full yoke]

Yes

Yes I did

No duelist wep

+11 vos

We had same gear kindish he had sacred knights

While I had servius

[clever sigil]

that's freaking weird.

[full yoke]

Yeah

Also forgot to add no imprints or attributes

302!ERP level

N I had water n wind

[celest ore]

switch to RV and move to south america goes crazy

true advice

[full yoke]

Why is that an advice

I don't understand that haha

@clever sigil forgot to mention he's gears specialized oskil was decasting strike

After I tracked him

Then he changed to furious blade

[celest ore]

to explain the joke: rv is infamous for having way too much superarmor from doing pretty much anything
combine that with lag and bro is a pain

[full yoke]

Ah xf

Frrik

[clever sigil]

that explains why I could make people quit.

[fiery lion]

mitsumez has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[clever sigil]

period

matter fact, maybe Raven is just annoying overall

I plea guilty for the warcrimes I've committed.

. also is RI nasty in PVP?

[celest ore]

i dont mind fighting ravens

would take rv over the 3 hell aishas

the 4th aisha doesnt count shes a goober

[twin pawn]

beats you up

[celest ore]

😭

[empty ore]

What Aisha's they are all dead

[buoyant folio]

Exterminate all Aishas

[echo phoenix]

If KR does like if its to balance like how he's godlike in 1:1 but 2:2 is just completely a different story for RV when every ravens who 2:2 in KR are always NI's and RH's.

[dull forum]

@full yoke

What class were they

The guy who one shot u

[full yoke]

@dull forum immortal sword fall

[mystic elbow]

Not the mutantwraith trauma

[buoyant folio]

😭 lmao

[full yoke]

Anyone to spar sometimes ?

[empty ore]

You mean Richter? Hes a solid A tier character. How well he does will depend on you as a pilot though. As a rare tenacity stacker he isnt going be hitting crazy numbers but once you get geared he will hurt.

[full yoke]

anyone to spar?

[lavish socket]

everyone is prep-ing for 2s tournament

well most actually

[warm hornet]

[haughty sedge]

yup lmao

so many rooms

[full yoke]

ig ruos

wait so can i join myself?

whats in for it?

[warm hornet]

https://www.twitch.tv/elsword/clip/SpeedyDirtyWerewolfPoooound-dZReKDUniLi0X4_j

partially annoyed that fog didn't really hit

[abstract yacht]

yes fog is really buggy.

[hollow hound]

It is it me or that skill can't be mbreaked?

[full yoke]

also fog some times let you press down key and escape it on platforms

@dull forum duelist or rigo violet

i am thinking of makign a rigo gear

or do duelist give moer stats?

[dull forum]

Duelist is way cheaper to build

Violet is good whenever you hit R18+

I'd say it's only comparable or better if your r21

[full yoke]

Hmm I see

What gives more hp and MP cost

Duelist min maxing or base stats from violet

[dull forum]

Duelist

For mp cost

[coarse geyser]

If you mean Cour De Monde, it's not possible to mana break it tmk, unless you preemptively try to break it

[lethal echo]

If both r perfected duelist will always be slightly better

Unnormalized stats go crazy

[full yoke]

henlo!

[lethal echo]

Hi

[full yoke]

how are ya?

isee

[noble pelican]

👋🏼

[noble pelican]

Real

[full yoke]

when is kog gona fix the commands?

as a nova i still do physical damage on my autos

when i am only havingmagic damage

[haughty sedge]

isn't there a passive that converts all physical to magical?

let me check

wait only skill damage??

[full yoke]

yeap

@haughty sedge yep

[haughty sedge]

That's rlly weird

But tbh, does it make a difference?

[twin pawn]

not particularly

[haughty sedge]

Your mostly doing command loops to get MP for your skills, since that's your bulk damage

[full yoke]

it does

magical classes need to deal only magical combos to acutly do damage

isntead o just feeding np

so prety much physycal classse has the edge on combos

[twin pawn]

no

it just doesnt matter bc most people are pressing skills

most of the damage youre doing in pvp on over half the cast is coming from just pressing buttons

combos exist to give you mp for said buttons

[full yoke]

isee

gotcha

also critical damage stack

or skill damage

for duelist

[white valve]

If your commands do damage you go critical if not you go all skill damage

[full yoke]

thats what i mean why we need commands being magical

ia m thinking of making anotehr nova

for apvp elriandode page

how about it

[white valve]

I mean not many characters commands do absurd nuke damage

some of them being magical as well

[full yoke]

yeahbut novas mag commadnsare xxxx and jump dashs xxx

or dahs zzzz

or jump zx

is tehre anything else?

ah yes xxdownxx

[dull forum]

@full yoke

Bro

If u wanna do command damage

Just >>^zxx

Lol

Literally chilly has been hitting 200k

Or more

On that string alone

[full yoke]

200 k with z xx?

[dull forum]

Yes

[full yoke]

adn whos chilly?

[dull forum]

Best raven in na

Cholly

And to be fair w.u

Most of the stupid characters that have extremely stupid buttons

Are magical

Imagine devi with command DMG

😹

Rm with actual command dmg

Genesis does command DMG even without the splash swords when you use his magical command multipliers

But back on topic I speak from 1st hand experience

When that >>^zxx 2nd hit

Doing 80k x2

With double attack

[mystic elbow]

I did imagine that

Never happened tho

😒

[full yoke]

welp rip

oh isee

[dull forum]

Like

My spar weapon ni

Does 20-30k

On that command

[full yoke]

hm ill se my sel fthen

alsose +11 or spar wep?

vos

[full yoke]

@dull forum wanna spar?

and im ss again

also should i make anew nova for pvp page?

also z xx dosent over heat so you will to find a way to get it to run

[dull forum]

We could

[full yoke]

@dull forum when?

[dull forum]

make room

[full yoke]

oh oki now

elet me finishthe dung

on boss

done

name?

[full yoke]

here

@dull forum

El?

[dull forum]

so

also just call me gabe

so ffrom what i told u

u gotta fix those things

[full yoke]

Gave one

Yes can you say em here to keep a copy off

Mystics sockets over socketing red damage

40 red damage and you still did touch damage
..

Gabe .

[dull forum]

wasup

[dull forum]

yeah cuz

im using wind

[dull forum]

so

wind 4 or wind 2 fire 2

40 red

more mpr

and the accesosries

[full yoke]

Oh ghee

Mpr ?

And what do I need for accessories ?

[dull forum]

p csot

[full yoke]

Mp reduce gotcha

And what about the accessories what to get

[dull forum]

2 piece master road

mark of inferno

undying flame

[full yoke]

@dull forum wait do I have to use wind 4 ? I am 1 ice 2 wind ithink

Or fire

I have 2 pieces of Mr and mark and undying and demonic eye in

[dull forum]

ur ep 3/3 is good rn

elpheus

[full yoke]

Yeah

So what else ?

All those done aside the crit MP cost thing

Also what should I socket I stead of damage reduce

Hm

[dull forum]

@full yoke

lemme show u

rq

[full yoke]

Ok where ?

[dull forum]

lemme make

the ashal

and i'll pass u the link

can u share to me a screenshot

of ur collection

llet me add u in game

[full yoke]

Oki

I am not in game

I have about half the characters I think

They are not master roads all. Foem thu

So sadly I can't

@dull forum

[dull forum]

base pvp erp

[full yoke]

When I get the page sure

Also the rest of points do I use em on Def and attack or go for MP or cooldown

[celest ore]

chilly 🥶

[dull forum]

i prefer cd