pvp

[kindred frost]

alright, ill probably just wait and save up money then

[empty ore]

Going cheap aint worth it

[kindred frost]

true

[empty ore]

At best buy it second hand

[kindred frost]

yeah but then I cant return if I dont like it

imma just save up 100 and revisit this conversation

[empty ore]

That would be wise

[clever sigil]

hopefully, cyber monday can have some sicker deals

[kindred frost]

yall can dm me good meyboards if you want ill save em

[clever sigil]

. you sure?

Bet.

[kindred frost]

yeah idm

I want to also but a ultrawide

I didnt before

I THOUGHT I got an ultrawide and it was in fact, not an ultrawide

[clever sigil]

monitor?

.

oh i see where this is going.

[kindred frost]

yeha im just basically trying to upgrade my set up

so I can do better in pvp

ultrawide advantage, faster less clumsier feeling keyboard, ect

[clever sigil]

https://www.amazon.com/FIRSTBLOOD-ONLY-GAME-Hot-Swappable-Anti-Ghosting/dp/B0CCBFTXQG/ref=sxin_16_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?cv_ct_cx=hot%2Bswappable%2Bkeyboard&sbo=9ZOMT9Jm0JH%2Ft%2BWi68iDSA%3D%3D&sr=1-1-6024b2a3-78e4-4fed-8fed-e1613be3bcce-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM

I should ask: do you use ALL of your keyboard keys on your current keyboard?

or no?

[kindred frost]

nah

like, not at the same time or in pvp

[clever sigil]

mn

got a "cheap" option:

https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Keyboard-Programmable-Backlight-Mechanical/dp/B0CBWH8VPN/ref=dp-upsell-widget_d_sccl_3_7/144-8805755-1532312?pd_rd_w=BbYII&content-id=amzn1.sym.4588d061-ded1-4b4a-be6c-96dffb99c103&pf_rd_p=4588d061-ded1-4b4a-be6c-96dffb99c103&pf_rd_r=PBSGD9Q1XS16EGEW6MNC&pd_rd_wg=X5RBq&pd_rd_r=85c2becd-8ed2-47e0-b6e8-2e061c787363&pd_rd_i=B0CBWH8VPN&th=1

Bit of warning: don't expect hot-swappable keys.

On the bright side: Keychron is quite a solid brand.

was my first option before finding out about Epomaker and GMNK

[kindred frost]

its okay I dont rlly do all that with my keyboard

is that the only setback?

[clever sigil]

87 keys, a bit new keyboard, linear Red keys (think of the Cherry MX Reds, but somewhat different form from them)

also: expect it to be noisy, Mechanical keyboard shinenigains, but for this price? Not bad.

you might like the feel of it versus the Reddragon

and addmittedly, if it just had hotswappability? I'd probably kidnap this keyboard, for it's quite nice looking. Keycaps (what your fingers physically touch) might be opinionated in terms of the lettering/ type dsign

I'd say? buy it. since this is close to your budget.

[kindred frost]

whats hotswappability?

alright I bought it, tysm!!

[clever sigil]

hot swappability- Whether a keyboard allows hot swapping of the keyboard switches. (the switches is what your keycaps are connected to, it also makes the noise when you press on the keys on your keyboard)

[kindred frost]

im very happy. I finally +11 my soa, just need to stage it. I just bought a keyboard that'll probably be better than what im using now. My new job is way less stressful than the last one and I have a stable source of transporation

my life is finally getting better 😭

[clever sigil]

a switch looks like this:

[kindred frost]

ohh okay

[clever sigil]

That is specifically a Akko V3 Lavender Purple

each switch (or most to be honest) can have a different "click, feel, style, or press/bottom-out distance"

if you ever start thinking about "how does my keyboard sound, do I like it?" good luck and have mercy when you start searching for switches.

[kindred frost]

i really appreciate you going out of your way to find that keyboard for me

you're a really nice person 🙂

youve actually put in a lot of effort to help me, now that I think about it

[clever sigil]

HOLD IT

did you order that keybord? or still on pending?

give this one a look:

https://www.amazon.com/Compact-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-Ergonomic/dp/B0BXNXY428/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&sr=1-2

[kindred frost]

its pending it hasnt shippe dyet

AYO?

14 BUCKS??

hmm idk tho i mean, its missing a whole star on amazon

[clever sigil]

it's not really a brand I know.

so grain of salt

[kindred frost]

hmm

i think imma just stick to the 21 dollar one

thats a brand you are aware of right?

[clever sigil]

ye.

still do your due dilligence, reviews, etc.

Black friday isn't here yet thankfully.

[kindred frost]

imma just try it and see how I like and if I dont like it return it

[clever sigil]

ye, have fun

bright side, im positive that your eve stepping will be ruthless

[kindred frost]

Thanks :)))))))))))

[haughty sedge]

Mechanical keyboards are amazing

The one I'm using 🤙

[kindred frost]

naicu

[haughty sedge]

Compact, wireless with bluetooth, and can be paired with the wireless usb for my mouse

All for $100

[clever sigil]

........is that a membrane keyboard?

[haughty sedge]

It's mechanical

Razer yellow switches

You can see the switches on the bottom of the keycaps lmao

[clever sigil]

imo, it is a good looking keyboard.

just seeing the switches sticking out and the style it is sorta scared me a bit

been used to a more "flatter" external shell/ body

[haughty sedge]

Fair enough, i used to use small compact boards, but full sized

So then i tried 60% keyboards, but then I wanted to come back to closers/elsword, and use the arrow keys for better number/movement in art programs

So i moved to 65% and never looked back

[clever sigil]

that was me when i bought a ractous RTK 68

then I found the epomaker 84, switched the keys to "Durock linear & GK Gammakay silent linears

they've been good.

[haughty sedge]

Noiice

[clever sigil]

only pain point: i want to see more Low-profile keycaps

So i can turn mechanical keyboards to a semi- low profile style

[haughty sedge]

Yeah that would be dope

[celest ore]

just get one of these https://www.amazon.com/Keychron-Mechanical-Programmable-Hot-swappable-Black-Translucent/dp/B0B2DS7K6Z

oh nvm already found one

[haughty sedge]

After my current board made up, imma go custom

But that's gonna be in like a few years

[clever sigil]

SAME

matter of fact. the more im in here, the more i'll be damned inspired to buy some switches.

or my parts

[haughty sedge]

I had to get off my pc after hurting my hands for a few hours in training LMAO

[celest ore]

i wanna build another keyboard

been using my current one for like 2 whole years smh

ok more like 1 and a half

[haughty sedge]

Started learning FB combo loops so i can finally be nasty

[clever sigil]

.

show it.

SHOW THEM

I MUST BEAR WITNESS TO SUCH FURIOUSNESS.

[haughty sedge]

Gonna take time cause i need to get geared haha

[kindred frost]

welp

migh as well switch my keys back to arrows to get a better feel for the new pc

*keyboard

I keep saying pc ugh

[clever sigil]

don't need gear, when you got the will to train.

at least for now

[haughty sedge]

But dmg is needed to win

[clever sigil]

sounds like the urge to build a new PC is strong with you

[haughty sedge]

If only we were in the past

[clever sigil]

ye,

but seeing y technique would be interesting

guess i'll hop on and get the smoke

[kindred frost]

IT IS

[clever sigil]

....after dealing with pictures and SLEEP

[kindred frost]

this thing is good, but its p outdated

premade I mildly upgrated

[clever sigil]

.....remember the specs by chance?

[haughty sedge]

I'm laying down rn so i might be on after i wake up

[kindred frost]

but tbh, all I rly play is elsword, as sad as that is

so Im in no rush to upgrade

[celest ore]

you should try other games elsword kinda mid 💯

[clever sigil]

ye.

like Armored Core 6

[celest ore]

never tried that

[kindred frost]

with a 1660ti gpu

[clever sigil]

. not a bad Gpu- GYAAAAAAAAAH DAAYNG. I like those ram numbers

keep the parts, you might be able to make a semi-neat budget Ryzen build (if you like used CPUs)

[kindred frost]

IKRRR

[clever sigil]

gonna crash, stay golden folks.

doing this before i lose my mind to Keyboard stuff now

[kindred frost]

gn gn

[oblique sundial]

hey dont go dissing my model m

thats the goat

[celest ore]

aye it is the goat but the 2kro 😭

[oblique sundial]

i bet i can play on it

just have the tightest inputs in existence

anyways though with keyboards you do kind o fpay for what you get

except with razor

then youre paying 3x what its worth

the 100-150 area is where you start to hit diminishing returns though

if you play eve a lot youll probably want something low profile because sliding is important

keychron makes some nice stuff for around 100 and they usually have sales going on

https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k5-max-qmk-via-wireless-custom-mechanical-keyboard?variant=40778479566937

lmao

only problem here is wireless

[kindred frost]

Me: I’m very spiritual and philosophical

The crap I be saying:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BKVbhPygi/?mibextid=UalRPS

[kindred frost]

When I dress like this I feel so normal like you’d imagine me having two kids and a husband or some not getting 🍀 every other day playing elsword being a PvP main and still struggling to get gud at adulting or navigating life 😭

I love me tho, that’s how I trick people 😈

[willow mural]

bro ur killing that red lipstick

those glasses r so cute

its almost time for me to get mine replaced i wanna get some big circular ones too ❤️‍🔥

[kindred frost]

omg yass do you want me to give you the link to where i got mine?

they let you put in your presc

[willow mural]

yee sure =D

[empty ore]

That your gaming fit

also love the glasses 👍🏾

[dusk dock]

Looking great as always, love

[kindred frost]

Theglassesshop.com

[kindred frost]

Yeah it was yesterday these dresses are such sufficient lounge wear

Also Ty 🙂

[willow mural]

this site? https://www.glassesshop.com/

[kindred frost]

Yeah!!

[willow mural]

Thankieeees

❤️‍🔥

[kindred frost]

Yw!!!

[buoyant folio]

https://tenor.com/view/enessy-кот-в-шляпе-кот-в-шляпе-с-волшебной-палкой-gif-8471018766869139460

[twin pawn]

[buoyant folio]

https://tenor.com/view/clive-clive-rosfield-typhon-eikon-dominant-gif-17367232966663512647

[kindred frost]

Me after trying out the limited edition brisket melt at rally’s: it feels like what I think a hearty attack would feel like

My body: GAGS why would you EAT THAT we don’t even eat red meat like that I TOLD YOU TO JUST GET THE CHICKEN TENDERS

Me: I was focused on how it tasted and not how it’d make me feel 😭

[haughty sedge]

i got a pvp room un

[kindred frost]

keyboard came in, im excitesd

[haughty sedge]

noice noice

[kindred frost]

so far feels more smoother

like I dont have to put more effort to make sure my inputs are going through correctly

[haughty sedge]

heck yea

[haughty sedge]

i started playing my old BM again, i forgot how fluid/fun he is

[kindred frost]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jZHRYbt_ViU

Us trying not to cash on elsword when we grown but falling for them black friday deals

[empty ore]

They're ok

Empire reign sucks so no1s rly gonna buy that package

[kindred frost]

@clever sigil Status report on the keyboard:

winning matches I normally wouldnt have won, inputs feel smoother

I feel like I can put more energy in strategizing than just making sure the inputs arew right

[empty ore]

A bit reckless towards the end. But you did fine

[kindred frost]

yeah that was rly clutch

idk what i was tryna do lol

[empty ore]

You probably panicked.

[kindred frost]

probbaly

[haughty sedge]

2v2s

[hollow hound]

https://youtu.be/ee7aSbsKElk?si=MyktqtZM4KuyIBvB

Look at the first match. 😂

(If you haven't).

[haughty sedge]

Xrd ost, so im hooked already :v

oh my GOD

ok im watching the vid later

amazing music choice

xrd to closers ost

[inland swallow]

guys

what u recomend to me to

fight with, idk what equipment XDDD or what sockets o.o

cuh i got ss already with da alterasiana

[kindred frost]

the what? what class you play?

[inland swallow]

NI

[willow mural]

bro 💀

was that a ceru proc or something

[hollow hound]

Passive proc.

[warm hornet]

20% chance.

from the looks of it, the CE has 35% mana cost reduction.

and from the looks of it, there's other additional mana cost reduction effects on hand.

110 mana and spit fire is ready.

and CE doesn't have a passive that reduces mana cost, it refunds it instead.

spitfire also has a "light" trait, so it brings the skill cost down to 180 mp

and with 35% mpr, it goes to 117 mp.

for it being ready at 110 mp... there are other effects from gears that extends the mana cost reduction right?

oh, this was from 2 years ago.

:v

CE didn't had mana refund at the time.

guess my point still stands.

and the spit fire "recatch" bug.

oh how i remember that.

XD

[clever sigil]

that's the keychron, right?

btw, neat looking Air stomp drops, don't see it being used. thought it'd be some "viable" KD-reduction

also send Keyboard pics. I ought to see it irl

[kindred frost]

Yep, the Keychron C3. Yeah thats how I fall onto the ground a lot of the time. Sometimes due to the stoic frames that you get upon ground contact, you can out-trade your opponent and make them launch in the air. Or you could catch someone sleeping and lauch em and follow up - free land catch.

[haughty sedge]

niiice

@kindred frost wanna spar for a few? i try making 1v1 rooms but i always just get trolled

and then steamrolled

without having any input on how i can play better or improve xd

[kindred frost]

sure, rn im tryna get my weekly cleared

[haughty sedge]

want me to make a room?

[kindred frost]

ill let you know when im r

[haughty sedge]

aite

[mystic elbow]

@kindred frost bbg how come u have polarize top

[kindred frost]

hooray!

[kindred frost]

I thought that was the meta, is my pve gear bad?

[twin pawn]

top goes continuous damage for second line

[kindred frost]

ohhh okay

[mystic elbow]

yeh

other than that its fine-ish since u dont have ran acc

are u like overcapped on polarize or did u just reach cap

[kindred frost]

I think im just capped

55%

[mystic elbow]

honestly 45% is good enough after changing to cont

rest of pol comes from erp

[kindred frost]

oh hmm okay

I gotta keep that in mind when I do more pve

good for pvp or should I reroll

[mystic elbow]

er can u get more scrolls or is that it

[kindred frost]

not really not atm

[mystic elbow]

ig keep that

[kindred frost]

shouod It ry to get at least 2?

[mystic elbow]

not w/ 3 scrolls

[kindred frost]

yeah you right

im over confident

[kindred frost]

still wanna 1v1?

[haughty sedge]

something came up, i'll still be on tonight

after i level grind my VC, i'll be down

[warm hornet]

this is my PvP ERP page.

i'm getting 1,084 physical/magical defense.

[oblique sundial]

this vs three ambushes

[empty ore]

Whyd you abandon max mp

[white valve]

more confused why you abandon resistance and mpr

[twin pawn]

flat defenses

[empty ore]

Wait this is even worse.

resists ok you can make those up but the mpr!

[mystic elbow]

Yall know who youre talking to right

[empty ore]

yes

unfortunately

[willow mural]

@mystic elbow @celest ore @dull forum

oi @lucid plinth

i have no idea what happened 😭

[lucid plinth]

WHO SUMMONED ME--- oh is Ben

[celest ore]

oh i can explain exactly whats happening here @willow mural

so you ever heard of one of these things?

[lucid plinth]

idk what to say other than. ya bro's net definitely was not fine.

[celest ore]

https://tenor.com/view/enderman-teleport-teleporting-c0lte-jaurseph-gif-23300742

[lucid plinth]

^ or this was in the system

[celest ore]

ye thats him

[lucid plinth]

but bro was definitely lagging every time you hit em

[willow mural]

LMAO

[lucid plinth]

and he's away from you, I had that experience, and except my person I fought literally dc'ed

[marsh plume]

did u win

[celest ore]

was once letting an extremely laggy a rank slap me and they just vanished mid combo

[mystic elbow]

MY NET IS FINE

😭😭😭

[lucid plinth]

nah that Net is on fire

[celest ore]

yeah i love him saying my net is fine followed by what is clearly north korean satellite net

[willow mural]

yes

since he kept stuttering he would just stand in place for a couple of seconds

so i could jump out of his assault

[mystic elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/calebcity-lag-gif-20473928

[lucid plinth]

I like it when people say their net is fine but really you see the craziest thing from em lmao with the notion of "MY NET IS FINE TRUST ME BRO"

[celest ore]

https://tenor.com/view/deepwoken-deepwoken-ping-deepwoken-servers-deepwoken-lag-gif-24749832

[willow mural]

it probably was server related

that was the funniest match ever

[mystic elbow]

Def not server related they just a lagger

His net jus bad and maybe even his computer

[willow mural]

idk anything about elsword servers

[mystic elbow]

I dont think theres a server out there than can cause someone to literally teleport

[abstract yacht]

Its mostly thanks to Els being the way it is

you may be lagging but you still look at yourself fine

you yourself lagging than someone else lagging honestly really looks the same

the difference would be consistency between matches to tell

[celest ore]

correct me if I'm wrong but iirc elsword pretty much only uses dedicated servers for the real backend of things, like managing inventory and stuff

and probably town areas

[oblique sundial]

ye its all p2p otherwise

you can see a lot with a firewall

[celest ore]

yeah I bet

[celest ore]

mfw party leader says he has wireshark

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-better-call-saul-saul-goodman3d-meme-breaking-bad-gif-24027228

[kindred frost]

What’s wire shark?

[oblique sundial]

if you know you know

[lavish socket]

Once you know about Wireshark it becomes depressing how unsecure elsword is

[oblique sundial]

the only security is "pray people dont know how to things"

its actually insane that a game is allowed to function like this in 2024 lmao

[abstract yacht]

good news is this game has basically fallen into the shadows so nobody cares to hack or cause mayhem to the game

[kindred frost]

can you dm me it, im confused 😭

[oblique sundial]

no

[kindred frost]

darn

[hollow hound]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxstDOSAD9KnpIORYM7cknHEpv-nvKLott?si=8RznwJ9jUFJevtl1

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx0uzJrJ5S3CayhTerGO9L05b7qJMbxYfx?si=DgHINZYXH9qd0i_T

[oblique sundial]

stop theres literally nothing wrong iwth the character at all this is 100% fine and perfectly fair

[hollow hound]

Hey.

[empty ore]

See Arnold you gotta Ambush like that

[oblique sundial]

i unfortunately lost my ambush privileges

i play dem now :(

[mystic elbow]

🤣🫵

[hollow hound]

HP gone.

Which mode is saltier? 1s or 2s?

[oblique sundial]

2s

2x the people and 3x the salt

[mystic elbow]

Yea prob 2s

[hollow hound]

💀

Oh no...

[kindred frost]

2s really gonna die aftere I log in

maybe my rank too low

[mystic elbow]

Just override theyre toxicity with either more toxic energy or kindness

[kindred frost]

the lasting hitbox on adds jump z rly do be crazy tho

[kindred frost]

1. How they change their portrait like that

Also, ambush crazy fr

[twin pawn]

its not really a portrait

its also not really "in the game"

think of it like a.. layer ig

she has it on outside of the game and just moved it into place (you can still see it when she exits the game for example)

[kindred frost]

MAAAANN

THAT LOOK SO REALISTIC THO

I may may have to geek out and buy comm art and get a pic of my oc and do som like that

I had this commed last time

What the

Oh you gotta click on it ig

[oblique sundial]

Ye ignoring 100% def and doing 500% and only coating like 20mp is kinda wild

Cata kind of dominates early game because yeah

50 mp boom chain and ambush are kind of a wild combo

Sucks that she kind of falls off lategame

[haughty sedge]

Ok that is really cool

Making me want to get one made

[mystic elbow]

If only we could get MR portraits

[kindred frost]

want me to send you their email

[kindred frost]

LIKE FRRRRRRRRRRR

Pov: the free pallet gave you red hair

[mystic elbow]

[dusk dock]

It used to be worse

[willow mural]

lucky

i got seaweed green

😭

[kindred frost]

some of these colors are so bad

like why were they even added lmaooo

[willow mural]

UR SO LUCKY

cuz fire red is the only one i ever want

[hollow hound]

❤️ 💯

[oblique sundial]

yeah we could have prenerf add ^z

or better yet, all of adds og hitboxes

i swear he made laby look reasonable

[cyan pine]

Ngl add wasn't as bad as it is now I'd rather have unnerfed add then laby or the untouchable iron body spammers we have currently

[fiery lion]

salttracer has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cyan pine]

Rip give back mind break to adds and laby couldn't do anything

Energy boom to fight inner aura

Un Nerf partical prism so it's useful again for x dropping

Those were the days

[mystic elbow]

Have unnerfed add but it only works against laby players and 4th paths

[buoyant folio]

Funny you say this bc Laby just has pre-nerf add hitboxes but a lot better

well a lot better everything ig 😭

[hollow hound]

Man, I remember when I could beat people in sparr with my EtW with no weap, armors, and accs.

So unga bunga.

[cyan pine]

I'd take this in a heart beat

[marsh plume]

https://www.twitch.tv/ssllghero/clip/DullOddCroissantMau5

[oblique sundial]

Yes

I gotta find smth prenerf add z was like

Half of durahan

And hit a platform above

[marsh plume]

https://tenor.com/view/yoshi-marth-grab-melee-ssbm-gif-6853762589264263206

lore accurate add z

[hollow hound]

🤢

[mystic elbow]

i miss when marth was good

[kindred frost]

Hello Miyako

Every time I see your name I feel bad cause I remember there was this one match and we were paired and you were like "Mona why are you not doing anything, what are you doing" and I was just 🥬 off my 🫏

After that I got off I realize I was too outta there to do anything

idk when the gummy starts kicking in theres like this sweet spot where im calm enough to not panic like I do when im lucid but then it spirals seer confusion

[buoyant folio]

That is quite literally

how Laby's hitboxes work

and remember that they're considered "nerfed" already

[oblique sundial]

nah this was different

like laby is bad but old add z was so braindead

almost as bad as prenerf bluhen x

[hollow hound]

How was prenerf Bluhen?

[oblique sundial]

offscreening ultrawide players two platforms above you

[hollow hound]

Any graphic examples?

👀

[twin pawn]

[buoyant folio]

Honestly I can't even remember Add being capable of attacking two platforms

the most I recall is one at least and that was still pretty bad lmao

[empty ore]

Yeah some of these arent fair comparisons. Old Add Z was like two sword hitboxes long

https://i.imgur.com/07W5XOF.png

I still remember getting Z'd out of EM's firespin combo without him being hit at all

[abstract yacht]

and DI's continues to be like 2 and a half

[abstract yacht]

like, yeah that seems legit

[oblique sundial]

exaggerate for funny reasons

[oblique sundial]

Hitboxes in this game have always been atrocious though

Usually they get fixed after years of complaints but somehow laby made it through the cracks

[kindred frost]

Nah see no

[hollow hound]

https://youtu.be/KEhqyBy20-U?si=f9Hoj6CRnDiyxDzT

[heavy spear]

watching that makes me feel more disgusted than most of the newer elsword pvp videos i watch

[empty ore]

rof 1 bead days

[heavy spear]

when asuras would stealth at the beginning of the match and then rof awk

[haughty sedge]

watching this makes me miss OG LP

[hollow hound]

Add's tyrany.

[haughty sedge]

yea :D

[fiery lion]

g.g.g has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[haughty sedge]

oof

[mystic elbow]

Smoked

[haughty sedge]

I've been trying to use quicksilver strike for lp for the longest time

I know the move sucks, but idc i love it

[dull forum]

BRO

banned

lIKE WEHAT

[mystic elbow]

WHY WOULDNT IT BE

[kindred frost]

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

I THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE STAGE 4 TONIGHT

[mystic elbow]

Huh did u not clear 18-4 one week

[kindred frost]

idk but Ib had 8 peices and I thought I get 4

18-1, 18-2, 18-3, and 18-4

oh you know what, I was dead for one

one week

[mystic elbow]

U get 3

If u clear 18-2 first u wont get one for 18-3 vice versa. They’re pair dungeons

[kindred frost]

MAN

THIS GAME IS BOOTY

sulks

Ill guess ill get stage 4 tomorrow

- me queing up for pvp later tonight to get beat cause my soa is still weak

[hollow hound]

I like how some Elbois think I will run into their SA.

Like, what do you want me to do? I have to run from my life.

[haughty sedge]

Nah, my SA has longer startup, THEREFORE I WILL WIN THE FI-

Why did i get stun locked

[kindred frost]

elboy: imma use Iron Body

me, a CA: >>zx, slap, jet jump, awk, dash again, mind photo, already outta IB and caught by core

[empty ore]

Its an idiot tactic

they want you to get impaitent and take the bait.

[abstract yacht]

I like to run into their SA

Because I want to fight
I'm not here to win I'm here to fight
which is why it annoys me so much cowardice playstyle of Aisha and PR

[haughty sedge]

^ I'm the same way

Im here to RUN THEM HANDS

[hollow hound]

I had to play the "flight simulator" against an Aisha yesterday...

[kindred frost]

Aisha’s is tough fr

You can’t leave me alone cause they get free mp

But you also can’t mindlessly charge because they expect that

[haughty sedge]

i finally

got revenge on a eve in q

[kindred frost]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-on-the-path-of-revenge-mizu-blue-eye-samurai-i'm-seeking-vengeance-i'm-on-a-journey-for-payback-gif-16331480105492317139

[haughty sedge]

i keep forgetting

nasod combos do PHAT dmg

[hollow hound]

Is there a pvp server?

[celest ore]

apparently yes but i've heard mixed things in terms of actually wanting to be there

[mystic elbow]

I wouldnt recommend it

[dull forum]

Why wouldn't u recommend it

[mystic elbow]

cuz yall suck lowke 💀

new ppl get torn UP

[hollow hound]

Can someone here help me deranking?

[dull forum]

Bro

Ur so right

I felt bad last time som1 said I flamed them

😹😹😹😹

But some ppl deserve it

So it is a necessary evil

[mystic elbow]

u had ppl instantly claiming dekomlev was tomoka

i dont even know tomoka like that but from what ive seen

id off myself ;/

[dull forum]

Ok that was definitely messed up

I ain't gonna lie

Dekomlev got insta targeted

It wasn't nice

But hey! At times they give good advice!

[mystic elbow]

he'll b aight i just dont think others wanna deal with that

[kindred frost]

We all know what happened when I first came to the scene

[mystic elbow]

correct ms mona

[kindred frost]

But some of that was my fault due to my reactions, tho it got crazy outta hand

[dull forum]

Tbh I was flaming a certain PR on stream and they turn out to be pretty chill

This was months ago but still

😹

[white valve]

Just stop caring about people and be alright

[kindred frost]

Yeah don’t take this game ads

[hollow hound]

If anybody is in arena now, I am deranking.

[kindred frost]

*srs

[white valve]

People going to flame you

[hollow hound]

Take your AP.

[white valve]

you going to flame people

take it as you will

[kindred frost]

The circle of life

[dull forum]

I'm introducing ppl into widescreen I got Kwan and Eric into widescreenbob

[mystic elbow]

some ppl jus dont feel like dealing with that

[dull forum]

It didn't change anything

They still whiffing buttons

[mystic elbow]

damn

[dull forum]

But they can see it in stretched res

[white valve]

they see the map but cant react to it

[dull forum]

No cuz

Idk why they ain't pressing it

[abstract yacht]

whatever you think there is bad in Els' community

The PvP server 100% has it and tripled

don't change my mind.

[mystic elbow]

have u seen the pve community

[dull forum]

I was doing off screen brandishes

[mystic elbow]

70% of them r pdfs

[dull forum]

I do think PvE com is more messed up than pvp

[abstract yacht]

I'll be honest

[dull forum]

Nocap

[abstract yacht]

that's just the anime community as a whole

[white valve]

pve community is pretty bad

they all hate each other too

[abstract yacht]

not much an els only problem

[white valve]

reason why i just do pve with just my people at this point

[mystic elbow]

i didnt say it was.. i jus said theyre worse than pvp side

😭

[kindred frost]

I remembered when people kept constantly bothering me and bringing up the past and the only one who got banned was me

[dull forum]

Speak on it sis periodt

[white valve]

The real question is why they care so much

and constantly bother you

[dull forum]

Anyways just join the pvpcord we got fun emotes :3

[kindred frost]

I was “making people uncomfortable” while other people in there were making smex jokes and whatnot

[kindred frost]

Immaturity

[white valve]

they dont have to interact with you if thats the case

[kindred frost]

Yeah and what’s crazy is I blocked them

They kept going

[mystic elbow]

from what i learned in my latest time in spar is u can be completely quiet and someone will still

[white valve]

just learn to ignore people

[mystic elbow]

have an issue

😭

[kindred frost]

And they banned me

[white valve]

just like real life

[mystic elbow]

ok black queen????

[dull forum]

Wanna help me clear

[mystic elbow]

bruh

[dull forum]

This week

:)

[mystic elbow]

yknow the deal

then no clear 🤣

GO ASK LEMONTREES

HAHAHA

[kindred frost]

Not Lemon of the trees

[dull forum]

Yu mean my best friend PvE slave da on call lemon bob

U right

Imma ask him

[abstract yacht]

oh the one who targetted me for randomly deadly shotting him on that one event stream rumble thing-

[mystic elbow]

yea free slave

even if its DA

[dull forum]

5/5 sk = signing his rights away

[mystic elbow]

damn

i should do that

not like i play the game anymore

[dull forum]

Factuals

Also I've been dealing

Demming

And dem is so freelo bro

😭😭😭

I could have natural flow of I wanted to

[mystic elbow]

ngl bro im scared of dem players

yall r kinda like nyx players

giant hit or miss

[dull forum]

I did have a DPS dem yesterday

It was fun to say the least

[abstract yacht]

this is why I despise being in bigger guilds

you just randomly catch strays for someone beefing up with others

apparently being famous or part of a bigger group in any sort of game instantly makes you target of drama

[dull forum]

(they were not dpsing)

[mystic elbow]

💀

[dull forum]

Idk if cassian

Remembers the one time I flamed a random cl cuz he cheeks at pvp

And I got random allegations to my name the next day

[dim bluff]

Leak fun emotes

[dull forum]

☠️☠️☠️

[mystic elbow]

😭

ign? maybe that'll help

[dull forum]

It's counted as defamation

[mystic elbow]

[dull forum]

Icant

[mystic elbow]

is their most fun emote

[dull forum]

(dms)

[dim bluff]

😭

[mystic elbow]

oh yea idk that player

[dull forum]

Xd

[mystic elbow]

nah thats crazy

me personally

id never flame!

[celest ore]

i mean thats why i just stay in the official discord where its chill except for questions chat for some reason

[mystic elbow]

questions chat whenever someone answers:
questions chat whenever wynn answers: 💢

[buoyant folio]

Dang

What happened earlier

[mystic elbow]

nothing that ik of

just noticed that when wynn answers questions in that chat ppl hate it 💀

[white valve]

Too honest?

People too sensitive?

Cause i noticed that as well

[mystic elbow]

probably a mixture of both

[kindred frost]

im at home now

[white valve]

Probably same issue I have

Just blunt and straight to the point when giving information

without regards to people feelings

[mystic elbow]

hm for a while i sugarcoated what i said cuz it was hurting ppls feelings but then they'd either not get it or still get offended

so what was the point lol

[white valve]

What I learned is that people don't want to learn or improve at times and only want to hear what they want to hear

and will continue searching for someone to give that answer even if that peson is also incorrect

[mystic elbow]

yea theyre looking for a yes man

and that aint me fortunately

[dull forum]

Slay

@edgy vine

Raid?

[kindred frost]

heres my advice for ppl who wanna join the pvpcord (or pvecord)

• be aware of subgroup/clique groups. If someone flames you, best to ignore it cause a lot of people got like a posse behind them in this game. If you're not well known or dont got a clique, you're kinda vulnerable cause theres no one to "back you up". Some people may mess with you just for that.

• dont be too open, fr. I shared my instagram with my cosplay stuff and I people took my face and made a meme out of me, I also had ppl just all over it, someone told me that people were tryna get my irl name too, was kinda scary. People have doxxed people over pvp, I also got made fun of for being too open about my mental health, so dont be too open

• dont be too friendly trying to make friends. People talk smack behind each others back all the time. Find a small group or guild you can trust and keep the them.

• understand that people in this community are crazy, and stuff is just not fair. There will be times where people will try to get a rise outta you. Dont let them, cause if you blow up 90% chance the only thing ppl gonna care about is your reaction and not anything leading up to the reaction. Dont take anything ppl say srsly, even if its personal. Its just people wanting to see others suffer. Once you react, its a miserable spiral of instigation and reaction that will destroy your mental health.

overall just keep to yourself as much as possible. you can chime in once in a while but like dont make those the main places you try to socialize, mainly just use it for elsword and navigating elsword and you'll be okay

If you get into drama, dont take it too seriously loads and loads of people have been in drama. this game is drama central, just try to learn from where you went wrong and try to stay positive and avoid ppl you are on bad terms with

last thing ill add it is, ppl will flame you for pvp and people will flame you for pve. Even high rank pvpiers who are really good get made fun of and flamed. Dont take it seriously, thats just part of the game cause theres a lot of elitism too. Go and improve at your own pace, and remind yourself that at the end of the day its just a game

[white valve]

It really comes down to stop caring what people think of you

[mystic elbow]

holy message hold awn

[white valve]

they are irrelevant to you

[mystic elbow]

"people have doxxed people over pvp" .. I remember that

💀

[white valve]

doxxed over pvp is wild ngl

[mystic elbow]

gods those what 2-3? days were a bit crazy

[kindred frost]

Yeah

[mystic elbow]

im surprised the person kept playing cuz i would've quit n moved on

but good message overall ms mona

just dont tell ppl what car u have cuz that car is hideous im sorry

[kindred frost]

"Hey, ima Mona. And this is Mona's declassified els survival guide.":

[kindred frost]

😭 she doing what she can

[mystic elbow]

it reminds me of bubble bass idky

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-bubble-bass-throw-yeet-gif-22257352

[kindred frost]

I mean I think the car is cute! its red

[mystic elbow]

youll be the only one bbg

[kindred frost]

Me, in financial crises: its not much, but itll do

[haughty sedge]

don't forget pvp mafia

[mystic elbow]

i would've joined it tbh

smth about harassing pvp players sounds fun to me

[edgy vine]

PING ME WHEN THIS GETS DROPEED IS CRAZY

[dull forum]

joy

@edgy vine

[fiery lion]

khwahhh has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dull forum]

did u get wall title

wut da hale

[fiery lion]

khwahhh has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dull forum]

that person just got insta smoked

[lapis crown]

.

Damn I didn’t know bout this

[celest ore]

LOL 😭

[hollow hound]

💀

[twin pawn]

so real

[oblique sundial]

i dont think its lowkey

[buoyant folio]

Y'all suck highke

[empty ore]

Thanks buddy ❤️

[heavy spear]

all this talk of toxicity in game communities

i do lots of RP and i have definitely seen people doxxing each other over RP and other weird crazy stuff

it gets so wild, so fast -- in one of my communities there's a crazy idiot trying to sue another person and the game's developer

[haughty sedge]

just fought against my first star rank, and i got cooked

sadge

[willow mural]

wth i need a guide for a discord 😭

[empty ore]

Go on...

[warm hornet]

I would still like to bring back "all chat" in pvp.

[kindred frost]

its that bad man, or it can be

[oblique sundial]

That's why i just lurk

And yeah no the elsword community in general can be a bit iffy

It's not an pvp exclusive thing

[haughty sedge]

as most communities are

most of the time i stick to pvp spar rooms since most of the ppl i meet are pretty chill

[buoyant folio]

You specifically don't suck 😤 🔪

[dull forum]

Smoked

[hollow hound]

Let's play a game, guys.

[buoyant folio]

never

[twin pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-yourarchivist-cat-face-cat-rub-cat-cheeks-gif-2906532477387655738

[hollow hound]

I will type two classes of the same character and you will tell me which one has a higher chance of winning.

KE vs RM.

[mystic elbow]

KE

[twin pawn]

KE bc the avg rm player plays like they want to lose

[hollow hound]

XDDDDDDDD

KE vs IM.

[dull forum]

Im

[buoyant folio]

Luigi

[oblique sundial]

ke because rm is a fake character

[haughty sedge]

KE and its not even close

[hollow hound]

KE vs GS.

[oblique sundial]

I'd rather fight a ke than a gs personallt but idk who wins the matchup

Probably gs but I'm not an elbow player

[haughty sedge]

its kinda hard cause both are dumb

gs does have more stupid skills

[mystic elbow]

GS

GS can just choose to not interact with KE if he wanted to

[hollow hound]

Ok so:

KE vs RM = KE
IM vs GS = GS
KE vs GS = GS

GS is the winner.

[hollow hound]

This was supposed to be GS vs IM.

😢

[mystic elbow]

Still GS

[hollow hound]

Fine.

Now let's move to Aisha.

AeS vs Oz.

[mystic elbow]

AeS probably

Actually

Oz

[hollow hound]

MtM vs LA.

[dull forum]

Bro whoever thinks ke beats im

Is smoking some good pack

Unironically compact counter shuts down ke's main approach

☠️

[mystic elbow]

MtM hands down,

[dull forum]

rm<ke<im<gs

if immortal has any of the reds in a corner

and they are facing the wall

they get autoreset

everrytime

[abstract yacht]

just sword fall bug them 🗿

[dull forum]

thats only in 1 map

😂

[hollow hound]

Oz vs MtM.

[mystic elbow]

Mtm imo

I honestly think MtM is crazy broken in 1s

[twin pawn]

energy ring

go brr

[dull forum]

mtm

[hollow hound]

So...

AeS vs Oz = Oz
MtM vs LA = MtM
Oz vs MtM = MtM

MtM wins.

AN vs DaB.

[mystic elbow]

Probably dyb

[celest ore]

la stands out for being the only aisha that actually isn't dangerous at all

at least imo

[willow mural]

melting point cope

[empty ore]

Oz, People forget that Oz has Dark Ring which is on par with energy. Not to mention that Oz can play keep away better than MtM can.
Between these two it really comes down to who gets the first catch.

[lethal echo]

im only seeing this now but u can easily do 100-0 loop on FP

if done properly ur opponent cant mb

[mystic elbow]

Goddamn that was 8 months ago….

[abstract yacht]

Phantom Breathe Phantom Breathe Phantom Breathe Phantom Breathe Phantom Breathe Phantom Breathe Phantom Breathe

🛌

[lethal echo]

ye i was reading that old fp chat

if theres fp involved ill always be stalkin

[abstract yacht]

on an Aisha vs Aisha I feel sure Oz wins against all 3, simply for the fact that majority of the reason why Aisha wins is for stalling resources

but how exactly you outstall someone who can both negate resources and stall resources as a stalling class yourself.. one that doesn't even have like, insanely better tools as you're the same character, just slightly different skills for difference of paths

were it be other characters you can make relatively better differences between paths

Between aishas... 80% of their stuff look similar if not identical

[hollow hound]

So...

AeS vs Oz = Oz
MtM vs LA = MtM
Oz vs MtM = Oz

Oz wins.

[oblique sundial]

ehhh idk

aes vs oz seems kinda even to me but i might be on some copium

like its kind of hard for oz to zone aes, you gotta just rely on balls otherwise you just feed her 300 mp

aes gameplan doesnt change at all though

[dull forum]

Ca beats all other eves

🗣️

[lethal echo]

Fp beats all other chungs but is the weakest in 2s

[dull forum]

Facts

Well tbh

Star been running bp

And he be doing ok

[lethal echo]

Man bp in high lobby is so cancer

Everyone clockin u or

[dull forum]

Jushi idk if I should make fp

[lethal echo]

Shielding

It's such a coinflip

Go 4 it

FP is fun

[dull forum]

Bro

I need 7w

[lethal echo]

And if u don't like u can just swap to another chung

[dull forum]

Sell me urs

[lethal echo]

Hm

U got a ask Brian

I wouldnt mind

[dull forum]

O

[lethal echo]

I barely touch FP anymore

On na

[dull forum]

Nah I leave it Urs

So u can come back to na

Whenever tw close

[lethal echo]

Someday I'll come back with a 12 soa yk the whale I am wouldn't play with a 11 vos

Only chance endgame gear

[dull forum]

NAH GEAR CHECK IS CRAZY

[lethal echo]

XDDD

[dull forum]

12 to lose

🥶

Nah like

Unironically Im between making a tw

Fp

Or a lithia

Raven 2 boring with logear:/

[lethal echo]

Tw gets boring

Wait

Oh

I'm dumb

[dull forum]

Twilight

[lethal echo]

Oh

Ye she's

Boring bro

[dull forum]

https://tenor.com/view/elsword-rena-twilight-master-class-gif-27158955

Bro how is she boring

SHES COOL

[lethal echo]

Ye tillu get in high lobby 🤣

Like u could prob do fine w hee

R

[dull forum]

Ofc it would be my slum alt

[lethal echo]

How are slums nowadays

Is it still cinematic lemontree

[dull forum]

Vro

It's divine ninja

Cinematic

And lemonbob

[lethal echo]

Didn't change much

[dull forum]

Anxious came back too

[lethal echo]

I rmb when anxious flamed ben

[dull forum]

High lobby is me Leon hero unigiri

Brian sometimes

If he's on

[lethal echo]

Who are you entering the tourney with

[dull forum]

Idk yet

Imma need to ask

At my job for earlier schedules

[lethal echo]

I logged in to try new bp

So underwhelming

[mystic elbow]

Nah i still think MtM wins against Oz

I think shes just heavily slept on compared to Oz

[dull forum]

Nah

[lethal echo]

Mtm is broken in 1s I agree

[mystic elbow]

[lethal echo]

But OZ counters her

[dull forum]

Dark ring solos

First exchange energy ring vs dark ring

Dark ring double attacks and ignores defense at a random chance

The MTM gets chunked by 200k

[mystic elbow]

Huh for some reason i still disagree about the match up

[empty ore]

Do consider that if AeS taking to 300. Oz would have 400. Tanking Oz is never a good option. And then whats AeS gonna do? Press Icicle spear that I can clock, missing half its damage. Lightning Shower is dead so her oki options are lacking.

[oblique sundial]

tanking oz isnt a good option but playing neutral with oz vs magical body just sounds painful

or

elemental body my bad

i havent been on the oz side but ive been on the aes side of things, but i also havent played that many good ozs

so idk i might be biased

[empty ore]

Elemental body is one of those skills that sounds good on paper imo. However its very expensive for its utlity. Its no Nicts Feld.

[oblique sundial]

its only 50 mp before mpr

and its on aes

[empty ore]

I get that, I still feel its very niche. As an Oz player i'd love if an AeS player was pressing that because it means shes not using it for other buttons.

Ok, I cant fireball or bats for 7 seconds, she lacks the aggressiveness to properly utilize that.

[oblique sundial]

then youre limited to what

void balls dive and dark ring ye?

or am i forgetting something

[empty ore]

Void balls wouldnt work either

[oblique sundial]

they actually still hit

for some reason

[empty ore]

But basically I just wouldnt interact

[oblique sundial]

yeh but then youre not interacting with aes

that extra 2 mp/s matters

meanwhile aes still has access to all of her buttons

she could also run the 40% trait and theres a chance eb costs 0

[empty ore]

Eh I cant agree, that trait would be even worse to use in this context. Mpr trait would simply be better as to prevent going even more mp negative. And thats my issue with EB, if you cant make good use of it, its a mp loss. MP you could used for cfb or Circle of elements.
Now one thing I will say with the charging nerf, Aes has the early game advantage. As shes able to get to cfb and memo it before Oz could. Oz's best tools early game is ring and bats. And while EB can help, I dont see it as a gotcha button to punish OZ. Cause anyone can just play around it

[oblique sundial]

i dont think its a gacha button by any means, but it does give aes a way to interrupt oz's gameplan

while oz doesnt have much to stop aes from just doing what she normally does

[kindred frost]

shoulkd i strream?

[kindred frost]

I think im going to dress up and wear something cute for my stream tonight

just cause 🙂

[kindred frost]

the new costumes are cuuuuteee!

[empty ore]

So with the news that Iron Body has a voiceline now. I am pleased.

[lethal echo]

@dull forum

lets 2s

[dull forum]

@lethal echo

WHY RN ITS 2AM

[lethal echo]

bro my school is closed today

nothing to do i wanna play some elsword

[dull forum]

Take mt spot

[dull forum]

ask jinine

2 jpin

[lethal echo]

i think hes prolly asleep

[kindred frost]

who agrees about the special resources

[lethal echo]

No it'd be too much

[mystic elbow]

Idk i think i should be able to see at LEAST both luciel bars n add dp

Heavier on both luciel bars

[kindred frost]

I agree

[dull forum]

@lethal echo

can u buy me this fit?

[lethal echo]

Bro ure the one who made 2k playing els not me

The fit is good tho just get dark hairs

[kindred frost]

AYO?

G the elsword entrepreneur???

[lethal echo]

i think he even made more

[kindred frost]

When’s the book release

[lethal echo]

this guy crazy

learn how to make mony w GGG

[kindred frost]

“The elsword hussle - how I did it and you can too”

[lethal echo]

rule number 1 : smoke everyone else

[kindred frost]

I MEAN PRETTY MUCH

[lethal echo]

https://tenor.com/view/killer-bee-naruto-anime-note-taking-gif-14285274

its time for me to q if you guys like your points dont q

[kindred frost]

Imma have to use that line for next time I que

[lethal echo]

its copyrighted

sry

[kindred frost]

Darn

[warm hornet]

i would say, it should go with the MP goggles (and related accessories).

[empty ore]

While it would be cool to see Mischiefs gems

its kinda pointless for her at least imo.

With K.O you're gonna expect to take massive damage

Cause its just so strong

Seeing luciel's mp bar, MPx's second bar, Ara's orbs,

Those would be greatly beneficial

They would need to redesign the UI again because as it stands rn. It would be impossible to implement it cleanly.

[kindred frost]

I feel like thats a fair take

I wish they could do something like that

I guess a lot of issue with the game stems from like how dunamdental certain things are within the game and it would be very hard to change

[abstract yacht]

I'd only consider those who can use theirs for mp

because for once seems unfair when Devi can fool you by having half the MP but have no energy still bait you into pressure with her global sized nuke since it doesn't originally costs 300MP like others' BRV do

but the other reason is also... most of the casts' resources aren't actually meaningful to show

what are you gonna do with knowing Els/Elesis have gauge? I'm sure you can assume they always have gauge with how easy it is to keep at least one
what are you gonna do with knowing Chung/Rena having gauge? Because they're always full anyway lmao
what are you gonna do with knowing Ain has his gauge? The only purpose it has in PvP is extra jumps and that's it, he needs no gauge to sweep you
What u gon' do with Noah's moon phases- like actually

Raven and Eve don't even have an UI

[mystic elbow]

I dont think devi should be able to fool u though? Cuz Eve and Raven unironically cant so why should other characters have an advantage by being able to keep their true resources a secret when not everyone can do that

[dull forum]

🗣️ this thu

[twin pawn]

theres no way devi is fooling you if you know how that class works on a bare minimum level

the only chars i think we should be able to see are luciel just bc you can't really know/keep track of their mp at all times

[lethal echo]

lowkey

luciel makes sense

having 2 mp bar is dumb

you never know what hes up to

[twin pawn]

the only one i dont think you need to see are ara orbs bc theres like no point

ara catches you and probably has 10 already anyway idt you need to see that

[lethal echo]

tbh

the only thing i wanna know when i fight devi (i dont really care about other aras)

is when i wanna know if she got her revive

or if raksha is up

[twin pawn]

if shes awakened she most likely has res bc its 5 orbs min

if shes ab to die and you see her tossing buttons its bc she doesnt want to proc her res

rakshasa is 4 orbs. shes gonna have it no matter what you do unless u literally kill her and proc her res

and theyre not gonna let you see skill cooldowns so thats out of the question

[lethal echo]

dont she consume her orbs pressing skill

[twin pawn]

wind wedge is like 2 orbs high speed is 1

[lethal echo]

there are situations where id lov to know

if i can move freely on the map

or try to bait

raksha

but other than that its not a big deal

the res is w/E too

[twin pawn]

if shes tossing random buttons before she dies shes avoiding res proc

[lethal echo]

im just worried abt raksha

that skill makes no sense

[twin pawn]

if she has at least 100 mp assume she has rakshasa

its 4 orbs, life swap gives her one, being awakened gives her another orb every 5s

[lethal echo]

bru

[twin pawn]

if she catches you and starts converting she will have rakshasa up

if she does full wolf art shes guaranteed to press rakshasa

she also gets an extra orb from life swap if she gets the art off (for a total of 2 orbs every press/ 2 orbs every 5s while the art buff is up)

[mystic elbow]

rather than devi, aps and surya i want to know. aps bc it would mean she has suppression up therefore she'll get dragon after. surya bc of convert. i should know when she has that skill on loop

shakti doesnt use energy so it dont matter

[twin pawn]

for me its easier to tell bc im used to the converting for aps so ik when she has 10

idk ab surya

[mystic elbow]

surya gets it from what ik easily by like 3-4 actives

she gets her energy faster than aps which i think is crazy

[twin pawn]

yeah she can use the circle active and it gives her extra orbs for converting

one of the turtle stances but idr its name

[mystic elbow]

the 2nd one but i also dont remember the name

[twin pawn]

i just know if surya presses it and hits you she'll probably have 10 almost immediately after

[mystic elbow]

ye its just in 2s that info isnt always gonna be available imo

so id rather be able to know

tho it kinda takes away from having to learn characters or awareness in the match

if they were to put that in the game

[twin pawn]

for me im kinda okay with most resources being unseen

i just think luciel absolutely needs to have both mp bars visible at all times idc

[mystic elbow]

i think mpx too

[empty ore]

Yeah the problem for me its that its still alot of speculation on the opponents side.

[mystic elbow]

im so tired of that char breaking to zero then getting up and hitting me w/ a nuke

[twin pawn]

mpx i can agree w too bc that class is actually stupid

[mystic elbow]

if rena still had her og nature force passive

id say for her too