i can do the movement just fine as well, but its the difference in amount of control you have over the movement
#pvp
sinful anvil
also don't just guesstimate it
set ur obs/bandicam/etc to 120fps and then record yourself moving with the onscreen keyboard
then post it here
use that
sinful anvil
u have 2 run it as admin and then set it to always on top, but any overlay is fine as long as the program itself doesn't have significant lag
was just suggesting the els one for the sake of consistency since i noticed it was rly responsive compared to the other ones I used
but ye
just record urself in free training or smth
and post
bleak adder
and i used a special active skill tried to feel the delay between when the skill name pops up under the screen and the input window
thats the better way to figure out rather than trying to see the chars animation
sinful anvil
and i used a special active skill tried to feel the delay between when the skill...
that's difficult im not sure
sinful anvil
thats the better way to figure out rather than trying to see the chars animation
i don't think so...
because the game has to register your button press of the skill
before it executes the skill
if there is a 100 ms input delay,
the skill name will only show up after the 100 ms
that's why i'm saying to just record yourself moving around in free training with the keyboard overlay
and then share clip
bleak adder
ya after 100ms so maybe its more than 100ms but i dont think its more than 100ms
sinful anvil
i dont' th ink it's more than 100 ms either, but the way you would check if yuo wanted to uwse the skill name in the corner
bleak adder
would say 10~30ms still
sinful anvil
is to press the button ony our keyboard
and then measure the time between your button press and the skill name showing up, but that's way less reliable
sinful anvil
would say 10~30ms still
and i would love to see that, can u record yourself moving aroudn in free training with the overlay visible and then post a clip?
bleak adder
do u need a raw file or just a vid via yt or st
sinful anvil
raw file
it doesnt have to be anything fancy
like u can legit just
press < > < > and walk back and forth
or just record uself
dash jumping across free training or w/e
bleak adder
i hope this site works fine
if not working just let me know any better site cause i dont wanna upload els stuff on gdrive
sinful anvil
it says its been deleted
just upload it to discord brh
it only has to be like
5-10 sec clip
bleak adder
it is but u say u wanna 120fps
sinful anvil
yeah
bleak adder
give me some nitro
bleak adder
whatever
here
well i watched it again and looked like there is a delay ye but like idk if its actually 100ms
and let me know if thats the movement u were talking about
its at the end
sinful anvil
well i watched it again and looked like there is a delay ye but like idk if its ...
yeah it's 100 ms, it's the exact same thing i found when i measured my own clips
bleak adder
i mean i can simply go some keyboard test site to feel the 100ms
sinful anvil
i can't see your in-game frames, but i notice the file isn't exactly 120, but i axctually measure 0.125 for the part i checked
but that's
bleak adder
it should be normal like others
sinful anvil
bc of like frame discrepancies,
sinful anvil
like if i checked the other parts (a bit harder to do for someone else when it's not just basic left/right), it would probably show the .100 or .105 or w/e
bleak adder
obs settings > video > int fps val 120
sinful anvil
yeah same
bleak adder
whatever
sinful anvil
man who records vids at 120fps
i usually do 85, i just put it to 120 so that i could make 100% i could see all 80 frames LOL
sinful anvil
i mean i can simply go some keyboard test site to feel the 100ms
i'm not sure what u mean by this
sinful anvil
and let me know if thats the movement u were talking about
nah its a bit diff i can show
bleak adder
i mean just hold a key until shows 100ms
bleak adder
press a key > wait random ms > release
bleak adder
what am saying is that 100ms is pretty long
sinful anvil
what we're interested in rn is how long it takes for the game to respond to our inputs
bleak adder
if the site is correct
sinful anvil
oh yeah it is
you can feel in elsword too like in your clip
the delay you have is 100
the part i checked
bleak adder
but i dont feel like its atually 100ms
sinful anvil
was at 9 seconds
that's because
you're seeing yuor character respond to the inputs u made 100ms ago, so u might think that ur character is acting in real time
like look at 9 seconds in your clip is a really good example and im glad
u used rena for this LOL
so when u stomp
ok so yeah
sinful anvil
but i dont feel like its atually 100ms
it's because
in this clip especially
when you land
from your stomp
you immediately input
a full 180
bleak adder
am not talking about preregistering like the key input buffer
when i press one command
ok i dont think we can do anything for this issue anyways
just get used to it
and tbh its hard to say els pvp is a figher game anyways
sinful anvil
am not talking about preregistering like the key input buffer
ik but
u dont have to double tap to get a dash out of stomp
but u double tap
so ur right button inputs overlap
when u press your 2nd tap
your rena starts dashing almost immediately so it feels responsive
but what's causing her to dash is your first tap
so what ur seeing on ur screen is ur rena just now responding to your first tap
your second tap doesn't do anything it's a wasted input bc ur already dashing
but the 2nd tap is taking up space and making game feel more responsive than it actually is
sinful anvil
here
keepi n mind again that u dont need a double tap to dash out of stomp, it's a single-button input. So ur 2nd tap is an extra right arrow input that doesn't rly do anything, but it fills gap between ur initial right arrow input and ur rena's dashing animation, which makes the game feel more responsive than it actually is
tbh
i send 2u later
sinful anvil
that does not sound bad tbh
what doesnt sound b ad?
sinful anvil
just do what i do then
??? as in pressing extra buttons ?
it's not good to do that because it slows u down, like if you look at clip
you can see your rena stagger mid-dash before doing the actual dash jump
the stagger is the gap between your first right arrow input and your second right arrow input
your second right arrow input is the one where you actually press jump
so u spend solid moment on the ground double dashing for no reason when ur goal is dash jump immediately
if u did that at a ledge u'd fall off
sinful anvil
just do what i do then
also u can clearly tell that the reason why ur timing it that way is because you're using your eyes time to when you want your dash, and then you think you are getting a 20 ms response even tho the button u just pressed hasnt gone thru yet
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
sinful anvil
man it is awkward ay ef to explain in text only
sinful anvil
that does not sound bad tbh
i try to explain in this but i think i missed some stuff so idk if it actually makes sense
sinful anvil
just do what i do then
the issue is that ur makinga mistake without realizing it and then saying that the game feels responsive bc ur misunderstanding what's actually happening on ur screen
like i assume the reason why u pressed right button wihle u were still in the air, and then pressed it a second time upon landing is because u were trying to buffer ur right inputs to get an instant dash when u land after stomp
but the gap between ur first and 2nd inputs doesn't just disappear
the reason y it feels responsive is because ^^z stomp gives you a free 1-button dash, so when you press right button 6.417 seconds, your second one at 6.508s, and then you see your character dash at 6.533s, you think the dash ur seeing at 6.533s is the 'buffered' input u made at 6.508, but it's not...
the dash u get at 6.533s is from the single button u pressed at 6.417s
what ur looking for is this:
what ur getting is this:
the free dash buffer is just throwing u off brh..
stable nymph
ive actualy not done the testing tbh but i asked inspire ppl and literally none of them were aware there was now this input delay
fiery lionBOT
noobsux has been warned
stable nymph
will said he thought it was animations being different
cyan quail
I initially noticed it for like the first 1-2 months it came around, like I wasn't able to do stuff like this anymore:
https://www.twitch.tv/shennae/clip/AttractiveKnottyMetalCoolStoryBob
Other than that tho it's pretty seemless to me atp
I'd say i'm washed up or have old fingers now rather than blame it on the 100ms, since I can do those still, just not as consistently anymore
hollow hound
I am streaming if you are interested in watching some pve stuff.
dull forum
anybody wanna do 1s or 2s
mental rose
I initially noticed it for like the first 1-2 months it came around, like I wasn...
that's
actually perfect
LOL
mental rose
I initially noticed it for like the first 1-2 months it came around, like I wasn...
like for noticing and also for using as example
mental rose
I initially noticed it for like the first 1-2 months it came around, like I wasn...
do u remember when those first 1-2 months were?
cyan quail
do u remember when those first 1-2 months were?
Like I said it's been like that for at least 3 yrs
mental rose
and let me know if thats the movement u were talking about
https://streamable.com/wbbynq the movement i as talking about was this
if u think it seems like im doing it slow it's because i am
prior to the delay i used to be able to do a lot faster
and i didnt have to jump so high in the first half of the movement to avoid whiffing it
and itsn ot like im some mechanical god never have been, but this is somethign ive always had rly good control over, but now when i try to do the fast fall portion of the movement
i cant react to the height of my character by presing <<zzz
i have to try and press <<zzz early and predict where my height is going to be
which is harder
a lot of the time i press it too late and get a whiff like in the last attempt
shud have had onscreen keyboard tbh but cba'd
mental rose
Like I said it's been like that for at least 3 yrs
oh yeah that was u who mentioned that
mental rose
I'd say i'm washed up or have old fingers now rather than blame it on the 100ms,...
that's a weird way to put it
bc im like 99% sure if the delay wasn't there these things would be just as consistent as before
like in clip i sent of noketan's movement
the*
noketan thought he needed to double tap >> to dash out of stomp
and you can see from his keyboard overlay that he timed his 2nd button, > (>) in parenthesis, to occur happen after he landed
he's using his eyes
we can't use our eyes anymore it's a huge dbuff
and look im not trying 2 shy away from claiming im washd either ok like if im washd im washd
but i actually thkn im washd in brain way more than im washd in mechanix
so tihjs is rly annoying
cuz 100 ms delay basikly telling u 2 get ur cerebrals up 💀
cyan quail
bc im like 99% sure if the delay wasn't there these things would be just as cons...
I've seen people do the things I clipped pretty consistently and even faster
That's why i'm saying that
sinful anvil
I've seen people do the things I clipped pretty consistently and even faster
what clips?
o
ehhhh
sinful anvil
I've seen people do the things I clipped pretty consistently and even faster
i think the first clip
is a much better example
than the second
the second one can be done really easy and input delay doesnt really matter
ur just pressing v^Z v^Z over and over
its not rly osmethign where u would be watching and looking for timing,
first clip where ur moving to the beat though
is a perfect example
imo at least
ok tbh not imo
itws tur
sinful anvil
Tfw my reactions are 8 frames slower than they should be because of bad code
ya and ppl keep saying its smooth or feels responsive when it's
objectively not 
elsordians #lawyers br
sinful anvil
Or even this: https://www.twitch.tv/ssllghero/clip/BrightSleepyKoupreyShadyLulu
also for the secodn especially
well tbh nmah that applies to previous as well
was just the extra step of h aivng to hold 4 or 6
stable nymph
^x was goated for yrs
fast big hard kd…
mish how r u net 110 wins but still ss
does the game just give u like A rank ravenfarm7s
oblique sundial
yeah
until youre like mid ss just assume everyone is a bot used to farm pots
actually no i take that back theres some goated s ranks who just go for clips and drop every combo
sinful anvil
mish how r u net 110 wins but still ss
i was SSS when i logged on but i lost it LOL
today
i think primariyl cuz
i kept getting 2v2s
like game 1
no warm up and
i odnt have a ton of 2s exp atm
LOL
so i grief my m8s elo
stable nymph
u mean u dont have gear 4 2s
u shud just not queue that mode until uve at least got ur duelist set...
sinful anvil
hmmm
what even is the diff between 4pc duelist and 2pc duelist 2pc rigo
is just literally 1% atk power;..
wait
3% atk power and 2.5% mpr + sm other stats mb
stable nymph
i think is full duelist vs 2pc rig is like
4.8 crit dmg and 4% specific skill dmg and 2% post-normalization mpr and 4% double atk
vs
3% atk powr and 6% awk charge and 4% red dmg and 16k hp and
1k base atk (or 2k if u pick pieces that let u double up on attack type) + bit less than 2k def
seems like rig is just a fair bit better
sinful anvil
does the game just give u like A rank ravenfarm7s
al;so i do get a lot of them y a
tbh i been coming in clutch 4 these fighter farmers i shud get a cut
🙄
stable nymph
like if u double up on main atk stat ur probably just doing str8up more dmg while being fair chunk tankier...
- u can use rig on other chars
i think in the past r21 was pretty painful
so made more sense 4 non pve grindlords 2 just duelist
stable nymph
no u just buy the battle pass
sinful anvil
??
sinful anvil
u can make purple and still use the amulets right
stable nymph
get the anne's battle pass which gives u 4 r21 scrolls
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
stable nymph
and then u can bankshare it 2 every char
sinful anvil
get the anne's battle pass which gives u 4 r21 scrolls
WDEF
stable nymph
korean game wants ur monkes
stable nymph
im a dirty whael
stable nymph
it's ok im just... giving bak the money kog has given me over the years...
sinful anvil
does what it looks like it does
stable nymph
it saves u like
sinful anvil
it's ok im just... giving bak the money kog has given me over the years...
right...
stable nymph
an hour of grinding or so?
sinful anvil
that el resonance pot?
stable nymph
ya
sinful anvil
it says lv 350 on it hello
stable nymph
it doesnt boost u 2 350
stable nymph
u can use it as long as ur below 350
ppl sell it for like few hundred mil on board
is like equivalent of ryan paying 4 child labor 2 do his pve
actualy idr if he even did that, idt he had reaper or any good pve stuff...
sinful anvil
LOOL
stable nymph
but ya not rly surprising but if u r 2 put money in2 the game, battle passes give pretty unreasonable bang 4 ur buk
stable nymph
oh right f8 had reaper didnt he...
sinful anvil
im not sure
no idt he did
i have vids of him running painkiller
yk i do rly want that WS promo bow...
sinful anvil
im surprised ur runinng it
stable nymph
i didnt have any say in it
sinful anvil
LOL
stable nymph
esp the +11 armor folk, if ur going to gearlord do it right...
sinful anvil
u dam right.........
wel clearly there is only 1o ption...
btw if u have excess element resistance and receive a res debuff
ur excess res isn't going to compensate right
stable nymph
idk on that
stable nymph
only quests
hm only matk chars get to double up on rig bc gloves are phys + suck in pvp because dungeon only allskill
losing out on 1k atk is huge aka sux2suk 4 patk chars ig
sinful anvil
hm only matk chars get to double up on rig bc gloves are phys + suck in pvp beca...
double up on rig as in 4pc?
stable nymph
no i mean picking 2 pieces that give u main atk stat
sinful anvil
o
stable nymph
afaik the +1k is base stat aka huge
like weapons are like wat 37k base stat??
slapping on another 1k is like O_O
sinful anvil
hm only matk chars get to double up on rig bc gloves are phys + suck in pvp beca...
r u sure the skill is dung only?
asd*
seems weird for violet piece to have a dungeon only effect on it
LOL
stable nymph
if it werent every1 wud b running purpl rig gloves even if normalized...
it has adaptation on it
sinful anvil
LOL
stable nymph
what on earth is going on here
is there something that interacts funny with add dmg
to make this a real build
sinful anvil
o my god ur right
bro what in the world
LOL
so phys u just
4pce duelist...
unless the 1k base atk power is worth it over 4.4% asd...
stable nymph
no duelist lines r not normalized
sinful anvil
huh
stable nymph
pvp gear gets special exception
sinful anvil
thats 11% unnormalized asd?
sinful anvil
????????????
sinful anvil
the mpr u build is still norm tho
stable nymph
6% unnormalizd crit/asd, 6% unnormalized skil dmg...
abstract yacht
Every source of MPR are 40% normalized except for very strictly Duelist's system
sinful anvil
i dont see fixed line mpr
stable nymph
and the specialized liens
abstract yacht
specialize is the system-
sinful anvil
Every source of MPR are 40% normalized except for very strictly Duelist's system
wtef LOL
doesnt that also apply to cdr?
abstract yacht
yes.
sinful anvil
i dont play nish
abstract yacht
All sources (in terms of gearing) have the 40% normalization
Duelist's system (Specialize) is the only one who gets an exception for the gear is made intentionally for PvP only already
sinful anvil
it just good 2 kno cuz shaving a few secs off of linna cd w/o passive procs is kinda nice but w/e
mann i wish linna wasnt so cucked LOL
wat
wait
u still get 1k main atk stat from duelist @stable nymph
stable nymph
wat r u on about
sinful anvil
tbh it looks slightly more than rigo?? wait am i misunderstanding smth
i mighjt have misread what us aid hold on LOL
stable nymph
open up my char's armor
it is on pve set right now
look at the stat
u see next 2 the base stat it has like
+1k
that's from reforge
rig has reforge 2, duelist does not
that is where the extra 1k atk + defs come from
and what sets rig above duelist...
stable nymph
in any case y r u still using ur elrianode
after hundreds of matches u shud have more than enuf mats 2 max out ur duelist
sinful anvil
after hundreds of matches u shud have more than enuf mats 2 max out ur duelist
that is not os
so
stable nymph
wat rly
stable nymph
is 1s some peasant trash ap gain
stable nymph
dam
wait ur not trying to 1.5% everything r u
like it shud b really cheap 2 get passable stats
sinful anvil
im tryng to 1.5% everything i have because the stones to choose a new line
stable nymph
if u want perfect itl cost u
sinful anvil
are gated behind weekleis
sinful anvil
LOL
stable nymph
rly tho im surprised bc nek has like
pretty far long duelist set
he put command dmg on his for some reason
but ig it's funny to see him hitting for +12 dmg equivalent normals
sinful anvil
i think dyb is a p good char to have command dmg on...
if it werent for her crazy homing specials
they rly didnt put a ton of thought into how AN is meant to function in the game lol...
w/e
stable nymph
old char get got
stable nymph
i c ppl building asd but it's a pretty marginal improvement to ur skill dmg in exchange 4 a pretty noticeable decrease in command dmg
sinful anvil
shoes r missing the skill dmg
sinful anvil
i feel like everyoen shud just build crit dmg
in place of asd on
u mean
oh
like in general u mean
outside of duelist
stable nymph
no a lot of ppl do asd
sinful anvil
intrsting
stable nymph
like i kiiiiinda get it since like
stable nymph
once the score gets 2 like 2:2
ppl just blow each other up w spactives
and might not use commands at all
cyan quail
kingfinu
I have, I put my ress up once he tanks me for full MP and get ressed back
Blud is an actual degenerate burning 400 MP on a ress proc
sinful anvil
ress?
cyan quail
Ya my Master Class gives me a ress
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
stable nymph
having strongr normals 2 encourage breaks is so nice 4 chars that ppl usualy tank...
sinful anvil
a scientific wonder
like i legit am curious
cuz he doesntt even try
to play the game
to the point where
it's actually keeping him in SS
LOL
stable nymph
i havent fought him b4 in pvp but
i saw him like selling guild bases for super cheap
sinful anvil
i havent fought him b4 in pvp but
i shud send u a clip
cyan quail
He doesn't have to, it works enough for him until he actually has to play the game
sinful anvil
u will b fascinated...
sinful anvil
He doesn't have to, it works enough for him until he actually has to play the ga...
it gates him from getting SSS LOL
like if he actually played the game idt id ever beat him '
stable nymph
but he didnt wanna hear it...
sinful anvil
i saw him like selling guild bases for super cheap
LOL??????????????????????????
stable nymph
he does wat he wants 2 do
cyan quail
KingFu do what KingFu wants to do
stable nymph
that's y hes the king
sinful anvil
he legit awaken
and guardian strike me to 0 hp
or devastating strike me
and then dies
bc he tanks everything
stable nymph
the king need not bothr himself w such triflign matrs as u comon folk
wat is more kingly than just
sinful anvil
doesnt care if i awaken mid combo to sharpfall or anything
sinful anvil
i cudnt beat him with my foj tho ngl
stable nymph
and killing u
stable nymph
wait did i ever show u my
sinful anvil
makes sense
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
sinful anvil
LMAO *
sinful anvil
u didnt
stable nymph
like right when i came bak 2 this game
i had 0 idea what was going on
and i just get 1shot left and right
stable nymph
dam
cyan quail
like if he actually played the game idt id ever beat him '
Also this is how I feel about so many people that have so much gear
But instead I see em complaining abt AV while playing some of the most degenerate classes
stable nymph
well if u have the r21 scroll and plan on EVER pvping with a different char
cyan quail
Like CA Cent RV etc
cyan quail
Imagine if we used that energy to actually play the gaem
stable nymph
and 1 of the big appeals of rig armor is being able 2 bankshare it
sinful anvil
OL
LOL
thats the thing that maeks me reluctant to build command dmg on an
liek
if AN had normals
like CU
or even dyb
id b like ok
but ur big dmg
cyan quail
She has normals for the first few seconds after she awakens
sinful anvil
is such a balancing act
cyan quail
The uptime is pt butt
stable nymph
idk if cu normals are that strong outside of qt
sinful anvil
The uptime is pt butt
i dont rly have problem with the up time LOL
i almost always have it and theres no cd on refreshing it
w/ stacking awakenings now
stable nymph
the %s are relatively low...
stable nymph
im geared out the wazoo and these r literal s ranks
stable nymph
tho this mightv been near rank reset? so lotsa ppl in s? tbh idk but
stable nymph
wdym wat the properties were
sinful anvil
bc it was such a rar sstat
like
so when they rpoc
they always show up as a crit right
stable nymph
uhh idts
stable nymph
though in 2024 elsord wen u hit some1 i feel like it shud always b a crit anyways
sinful anvil
ye but idk if crit dmg will buff double atk dmg
stable nymph
oh maybe it was visual bug?
stable nymph
but no double atks can crit and everything
sinful anvil
like it shows up as crit but idk if it actually dealt the crit dmg every time
i rememebr when NS detonation + wind proc + hit used to eat mp breaks...
no wait tbh i think the OG was
stable nymph
idk if wind proc had anything 2 do with it
stable nymph
i think is just multihits interacting funny with kd
stable nymph
i feel like that has 2 b funny whack test
sinful anvil
idk y
stable nymph
it sounds like ur just describing how when u multihit some1 at the kd counter
it resets
is that not what it is
sinful anvil
yeah but mp break kd is alot harder to do that on
idt its possible anymore either p sure they fixed it
sinful anvil
ya it was rare anywys
stable nymph
i cant imagine how wind does anything
sinful anvil
yeah it was weird
stable nymph
ya im prety sure cu normals by % are weaker than ws normals
if u had equivalent gear u shud b doing more...
sinful anvil
i think for AN normals
its more like
a single normal
that does all the dmg
LOL
stable nymph
which 1 is it
stable nymph
which pasiv
sinful anvil
in addition to the ns detonatiosn turning into double hits
stable nymph
and wow
sinful anvil
its caqlled
immersed in nature
i wrote the elwiki descrption of it at bottom
LOL
stable nymph
The double attack is based on the damage of the attack that activated it. Maximize still applies to this double hit.
The double attack will activate on attack commands that normally proc NS orbs. The double attack will be applied to both the command its self, as well as the NS orb, for a total of 4 hits.
wow
how much dmg does ns orb do agian
185%
not that much and im guessing is avg of p/matk
sinful anvil
it dpends
there's an rng ns orb proc
from AN passive
that procs randomly on any
that 1 is weaker than the standard ns orb detonations from rena NS system
but
itus weird
im p sure
it changes
when
immersed in nature is up wait
stable nymph
but ya the 3 kicks of ur xzzz r 290% Phy. Damage
296% Phy. Damage
393% Phy. Damage
stable nymph
ur seeing me use like
167% Phy. Damage
206% Phy. Damage
320% Mag.
stuff LOL
and off-type atks basically do ntohing so is just the occasional 320% mag...
sinful anvil
tbh tis the xzzz hits
that would get me wins
off of players who outgeared me
bak when i was running void wep
or crappy foj
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
mental rose
chat blok
-_-
cuz all the rest of her dmg wud suck
but hten i'd awaken
and randomly start chunking with wind 4 + xzzz hits LOL
oh yeah
i wanted to ask if double atk ignored defense or anything like that
i dont think it does?
but they proc attributes
w/e
stable nymph
no special properties on doubl atk
just doubles w/e hit that procd it...
maybe it interacted with ur hitstop? im not sure on that
mental rose
hitstop?
btw if uw ere to build cmd dmg
wud the main place
b mystix
thje more i think about it..
LOL
stable nymph
uh
cyan quail
Double attack shouldn't interfere with timestops
cyan quail
Also the only source for command damage is from duelist afaik, and a few niche titles
stable nymph
double atk is basicaly command dmg...
mental rose
ye but AN passive alrdy gives u 100% double atk on the normals that ud acctually want to double atk on..
cyan quail
Ya just make em stronger w atk%
mental rose
yea
stable nymph
u can pick up like
4% command dmg from collection
and another 2% double atk
and get ur 3% atk stat off eve + laby
mental rose
4% command dmg from collection
stable nymph
why dont u anyways
mental rose
cuz i w otn b using the rigo
stable nymph
is 1k atk rly going 2 make or break ur decision
cyan quail
You don't need Ann's Pass with Tenebrous gear
mental rose
^
stable nymph
r u going to gear for pve
cyan quail
And the EXP potions are worthless when there's an active x3 EXP til the 8th of October for people below 300 ERP
oblique sundial
Nah you do
oblique sundial
And fill +13 :^)
mental rose
LOL
cyan quail
You only need SoA if you care about PvE
Otherwise you're better off getting Abyss Mystics on ur VoS
mental rose
ye that is basikly what wibls told me
cyan quail
Obviously there's going to b a difference but it's not gamechanging
oblique sundial
The free +11 vos is all you need to hit star :D
stable nymph
like a stage 4 (missing 5 atk lvs from stage 5) soa has as much raw atk stat as a stage 5 vos
mental rose
can i use kc to ez my artifact
stable nymph
idts
cyan quail
If you only care abt rank there's ways to cheese it, mostly through 1s
Not including deranking ofc
stable nymph
elrios pass i think gives u 2x daily reward for first run of each daily
cyan quail
Nobody cares about rank nowadays tho so it's pointless
mental rose
ya idc abt rank like that
mental rose
and gives u 2? boxes that let u choose max stat socket
elrios pass gives u a bunch of teneb stuff too
stable nymph
if u wanna play the game i think u gotta force urself 2 enjoy pve
cyan quail
Man Mishani how hard are you planning to get into PvE
mental rose
oh wait do u mean level ur artifact
yeah level + the rolley box lines + the accessories
cyan quail
Bc neither one of the passes are worth it if u just want to PvP
mental rose
(and the wind sneaker promo bow for 100 event points may or may not have influenced my decision..)
stable nymph
or buy like 8 master classes
mental rose
LOL
stable nymph
nah dont encourage that nonsense 💢
mental rose
maybe i shud just buy fluorites
stable nymph
i see the +12s
stable nymph
no1 has 2 worry about servers shutting down
cyan quail
PvE whales will keep it alib
stable nymph
they need 2 make more free stuff events so
there can be actual f2p players
to make the whales feel better about themselves
bc imagine u spend like thousands on a +12
but only ppl left r also +12
mental rose
who is crimsonghost
mental rose
oh nah crimsonghost tryna get me to rune lrian sanctum
oblique sundial
Sure there is
oblique sundial
Hit 300k with an active and you'll definitely feel like you're better than the peasants who picked the wrong main
stable nymph
and u can proc it 100% of the time on matk normals
for first 10s after queen's throne
bc of another passive
so u just pop qt and if u think some1 is dumb enuf 2 tank u just hit that x spam to get 165% dmg on each of the 2 hits of ur electronballs
stable nymph
if ur factoring in other sources of passive mp regen idt it's fair given there's oportunity cost aka u shud only consider the mp u get bak from aire itself
idt it's worth in 1s
in 2s u hit urself and ur partner which might b diferent story
mental rose
if ur factoring in other sources of passive mp regen idt it's fair given there's...
ya iw as onl yever considering
the mp from linna itself
altho
id never use linna in 1s
now that it doest have heal
LOL
doesnt*
ro anything else
sad...
meanwhile AVARICE
AND DEMERSIO
stable nymph
r u gonna socket mad maxmp or something to have it pay for itself over 23s
stable nymph
in 2s maybe u just team with another healer 2 violate laws of thermodynamix
then hope u dont get 1shot while piking ur noses healing
sinful anvil
in 2s maybe u just team with another healer 2 violate laws of thermodynamix
'another' healer. . .
1nce upon a time..
stable nymph
u can also get 2% element proc r8 off collection
actually while u can have multiple of these debuffs im not 100% sure if they actually stack
bc shados descent says only 1 will b applied
im guessing ppl had 2 much fun with raid wep acc + shado's descent + dark
wind procs also went kinda hard bak b4 ppl cud build much res + res shred was abundant
but now everyone has enough erp for allres + artifact accessories + asura collection and stuff
and res shred is nerfd
sinful anvil
bc shados descent says only 1 will b applied
1 of 7 sec debuff
aka 1 of the same kind
i tihn
also side note but tactical trooper is actual mouth breather character
🙄
but ya i think
cuz if u check description it says
sinful anvil
bc shados descent says only 1 will b applied
only 1 7 sec debuff will b applied
and same w/ moi
which sounds like
if 2 ppl running same
stable nymph
o
sinful anvil
where do ppl
usually get
sages from?
wait i have a miho
wtef
LOL
do ppl even care about miho anymore tho tbh
sinful anvil
o dam w8
so i make THEM pay for extract ticket i was about 2 buy it myself
LMAO
i assume its extractable..
i mean i got it from event thing
but i dont c anythign saying its nto extractable
so w/
e
maral just said no 1 care about miho 2024
however maral is EU so...
cyan quail
Ya his opinion doesn't matter
cyan quail
so i make THEM pay for extract ticket i was about 2 buy it myself
Yeah, otherwise you can add an extra 2-3b in price if you're paying
But it's usually better to have them pay for the ticket
Doesn't matter how you got the pet, they can all be extracted
I sold my Miho and Beeho for 7b total
2b Miho and the rest for the other one
They also paid for extractors
This was like 2-3 weeks ago
Just post on ashal.eu and market servers
The pet itself is almost useless, but collectors really like their foxgirls
The only one that's actually useful is Naho, the dark one
stable nymph
hm do u kno why some cus prefer zzzvzz in qt
like if it's mp gain zxx is better per hit right...
should do more dmg 2
cyan quail
Think it's faster gain
shell surge
hm do u kno why some cus prefer zzzvzz in qt
empty ore
sages from?
events
They been real stingy with em as of late
So if you need a lot you're boned
empty ore
do ppl even queue titans grotto
No, they just make a party
empty ore
Cause grotto is old content
mental rose
I JuST GOT 50 SAGE IN MY MAIL IDK WHAT 4 HBUT ILL TAKLE
empty ore
Prolly from hyper punch
mental rose
hpyer punch is what i need grotto for\
celest ore
is there something that interacts funny with add dmg
i think add dmg slaps on chars with a bunch of multi hit commands or something
empty ore
hpyer punch is what i need grotto for\
Lemme get on
stable nymph
that has not been the case for years lmao
unless they reworked add dmg again
damage better with zzzvzz wat
no way right…
3 phys zs has to tank ur dmg/hit…
abstract yacht
add dmg used to ignore red dmg
somewhere in 2018 iirc;
it got revamped
they gave a whole formula on how it works now and also mentioned it no longer ignores red dmg
sadly it's been so many years ago and I didn't care much about it so I didn't really save up the link to that (not that I think it'd work anymore)
nor did I memorize the formula
stable nymph
https://imgur.com/sm9vkUK zilek pointed out that synergy boxes messed w some portraits
like top right rena
sides get stretched...
cyan quail
anyone want some jelmatis?
I'll take
knotty kraken
u on rn?
cyan quail
Give me like 5 mins
cyan quail
ping when ur ready with an IGN
IGN Goddess
lavish socket
LMAO im 98th on the pvp rankings
I was never close to that before
the last time I check i was 236th
kindred frost
cookiesaur: pvps while drinking
me: pvps while smoking
kindred frost
I was never close to that before
you did it!!!
lavish socket
thx
stable nymph
only madmen rawdog elsoed
celest ore
only madmen rawdog elsoed
thats what i been saying
sinful anvil
anyone want some jelmatis?
u cajn trade those?
sinful anvil
anyone want some jelmatis?
i am fiending for jelmatis rn...
stable nymph
if it says (match) i think u can assume not normalized
stable nymph
sinful anvil
is that raven an enemy
cyan quail
Idt Hyper Punch free adapt applies to raid tho
But it's so baby mode rn that you should be able to live anyway
imo the other dungeons are harder
celest ore
dam 38 mins
check your mail
sinful anvil
check your mail
CLUTCH THX 🙏
celest ore
🙏
i dont have much but hope that helps
paeq will probably give you more when they wake up
sinful anvil
wait
were u not the 1
who siad
u have a bunch of excess
if u actually need these i dont want to snatch them LOL
celest ore
nah u good LOL
i don’t actually need them my gear is pretty much done on the characters i play
but yeah i was just lurking and decided to send some before i logged out, paeq probably has an entire warehouse worth
always does
sinful anvil
forgot about ID's
time to buckle up
bro
is i tjust me
or the reid system outdted
outdated*
feel like we shud b able to roll individual lines
just like everything else...
sinful anvil
how did u guys
make up for the HP loss u get
transitioning from elrianode?
bc those el tears gave huge hp lines
oh
probably master road accessories
warm hornet
my best time was 22 minutes
oblique sundial
i am once again asking for another map ban
sinful anvil
ELRIANODE'S BGM SLAPS SO HARDDDD
oblique sundial
why do i gotta choose between eternal winner garpai and blizzard smh
stable nymph
mish now that u r 3m cp u shud religiously do ur plegas outskirts dailies to socket ur artifact accessories
u can get up to 5% mpr on circlet, 8% def on armor, 5% skill tier dmg on necklace, and 2% atk on each ring
ig u can also get 5% command dmg on necklace 2 if ur into that
i thought a lot of sources of command dmg werent normalized, but ik artifact necklace 1 is ):
cyan quail
@sinful anvil @mental rose
Time for u to get on that bravery tech
Jk I tried it about 2 months ago, it's only good in 2s imo
stable nymph
in any case i feel like sharp fal is not the answer…
sinful anvil
https://youtu.be/i3wZ56C7o1Y?feature=shared
that whati mean
sinful anvil
https://youtu.be/i3wZ56C7o1Y?feature=shared
er that what i meant byu
killing w low kikc
lkike
haivng enough
likei that person probly dowesnt matter what special tehy rpess its giong 2 kill LOL
so u dont have to stack
lowkick..
cyan quail
The bravery does a ton of damage anyway
It's not like ur gonna need to stack it in 2s
And for some reason you can't XZZZZ into Gyro and catch off it anymore
So Gyro stacking seems impractical
The only thing left would be like.... Spinning Crescent...
sinful anvil
The bravery does a ton of damage anyway
idk i feel like i would rather VA but that might jsut b me nto being familair witht eh force skill
djkb
DKB*
cyan quail
The thing about DKB is they removed the MP burn feature, so even if it's unbreakable it's going to be unexpectedly feedy
Also from my experience, it was also mad leaky vs laggers
No matter which version I used
It was pretty common for people to leak out before I was out of the animation
Oh wait I forgot they changed it
Haven't tried that one myself, but I saw an Anemos bring it
Was kinda troll
😅
sinful anvil
mod dkb?