no
#pvp
mental rose
stable nymph
nonsense that overshadows it
mental rose
u dont get it bc it's not just a purely visual thing
twin pawn
r u finna fix it
mental rose
it's the most fundamental part of how u experience elsword
it's the responsiveness and feel of your character, legit like first and foremost
u like the way eve feels and moves, and u liked how that carried over into her overall playstyle that is literally why u played her
and u probly also thought her concept was cool ok
but
first and foremost is that
like when u go in day 1
and mess around w ur character and ur like whoa this is pretty kool
that's what it comes back to, it's just a crappy feel. Especially when u get to experience what the game COULD be like everytime you enter a town or rest area LOL
like come on
we gotta get it up outta here bro
🤢
twin pawn
u do that
stable nymph
the way we experienced elsord is not how some rf who funds the servers and just wants to escape skill and awaken and drvastating strike u for 800k experiences it…
twin pawn
godspeed
mental rose
the way we experienced elsord is not how some rf who funds the servers and just ...
it is bro
fatendestiny
would always talk about
how he likes the way elesis handles and all that but that he got carpal tunnel from his military service w/e so he's p. limited in the sort of stuf fhe can do, but still like to run around and blow ppl with 9999999k snap crasher or w/e LOL
but u stil like how the character and game feels
stable nymph
like tbh atm i dont even want to give current elsoed any air of legitimacy as a game similar to wat we grew up on
the betr the game feels and the more responsive stuf is and all
mental rose
it's the same game at core
mechanics-wise at least
but mechanics in els go a long wya
way
stable nymph
the worse is going to feel when u get onetapd by nonsense and remember this is clown fiesta
mental rose
well ok not briandead mechancis
mental rose
the worse is going to feel when u get onetapd by nonsense and remember this is c...
it's the opposite bro LOL
for me
I could get one-tapped
all day all night
as long as I get to shmove around and exist on a rena, im winning for the entire 40 seconds i get 2 move around b4 i get rak inferno'd iiwii
stable nymph
i want to have control over the actual outcome my opponent is trying to deprive me of and personal small victories kinda feel hollow to me if i know my opponent isnt playing the saem game
mental rose
what makes me want to put down the game, is having to feel like im playing under water bc of a 100 ms delay, and then get blown up by rak inferno on top of that, and think to myself "if it werent for this gross feeling delay i could have done xyz ", which i probably tried to do regardless but got blown back by 100ms into dropped inputs LOL
buoyant folio
certain players in Arena bring out the disrespectful side of me 😌
stable nymph
like we cud do all we want playing our own make believe gaem and then tanosx wud just
get up
maxi strike
and id just think like
wow he wasnt even trying
i cudv just been fighting a trainingn dummy
then seen LOSE at the end
mental rose
i want to have control over the actual outcome my opponent is trying to deprive ...
I love the gaem I'm playing and I want to use all the tools in my arsenal to 2 try & achieve the outcome my opponent is trying to deprive me of, and that includes my mechanics. The 100 ms delay is the games way of not allowing you to be rewarded for mechanics and it's gross
mental rose
maxi strike
tanosx can only get up
turn his brian off
and maxi strike
because we have a 100ms delay
stable nymph
i dont think we did back then
mental rose
that prevents you from meaningfully respodning ot him
stable nymph
we just didnt have good enuf options to chalenge that…
mental rose
yeah and back then u could beat players like tanosx with a combination of brain and mechanix
now u cant
bc of stuff like this 100ms delay
reducing the relevants of actual mechanics
relevance8
stable nymph
yr die winnign every tournament until like renewals suggests otherwise imo
u can steal occasional win in arena maybe but
mental rose
tanos wouldn't have won it with a YR that wasn't safety
it wasn't just YR DE, it was DE + the literal top 1 player in the game
on YR
it was busted as heck dont get me wrong
but tanos was getting juiced whenever he wasn't with safety, it showed hard.
and i love tanos ok
i was good friends w/ him
(until ppl roasted him after pan am and he stopped talking to me -_-)
but if the YR wasn't safety
stable nymph
im fairly certain safety and will were the only players who played the kind of elsoed that wud not care for this input latency thing bak then and it was why they visibly dunkd on every1…
mental rose
im fairly certain safety and will were the only players who played the kind of e...
they absolutely were not
the only players
to play this kind of elsword
or 'that' kind of elsword
fiery lionBOT
noobsux has been warned
stable nymph
they played the game for what it rly was and not wat they THOUGHT it shouldve been
mental rose
literally every YR tried to play like safety, hell noutails tried to pull of YR DE and got clapped.
stable nymph
found the word getting me bannd
stable nymph
my guy nou wouldve won alienware if ryan didnt miss every button he pushed LOL
fiery lionBOT
mishani has been warned
mental rose
i had been sparring safety since literally hte first year
that I started playing Elsword
in 2011
stable nymph
clinging onto what made us stand out in s1
mental rose
constantly
stable nymph
when by the time of ara and add the game was completely different
mental rose
clinging onto what made us stand out in s1
maybe u were, I was focused on playing the character that I loved to play and improving as much as possible on that character. When they removed WS from the game, I was far from done with it LOL. I had answers for ara when they yoinked WS out, and I had answers for add when they yoinked her out a second time and made her immortal for renewals
LOL
like
stable nymph
most ppl back then had no concept of macro because it simply was not relevant until we started waking up to howling or sup
mental rose
not true at all, it just wasn't as strong
until supp
tbh
no
not supp
flying kite
stable nymph
ya it wasnt strong enuf for us to care about
stable nymph
so we never bothered to learn
mental rose
I always cared about macro, I teamed with ling for and was very focused on trying to learn macro in 2s. I was better at micro espec bc i played more 1s, but ling literally had a 30fps craptop for the longest time and would always try to focus on macro
bro
willb in s1
was literally first player i ever saw running a respawn ring
i th ought that was rly smart
stable nymph
like if u watch mp usage from me in any of those old tournaments
it was godawful
and never improved
i just did not care to factor it into my gameplay until i quit and came back after renewals
will used respawn ring and no element
mental rose
i just did not care to factor it into my gameplay until i quit and came back aft...
if you watch that old 2v2 vid of ling and I vs those hackers in arena, you will literally see ling lowkey flaming me
for my garbage macro decisions LOL
stable nymph
bc he didnt have much ed psure LOL
mental rose
that is literally a huge part of y i even teamed w/ someone like that, like i knew about myself i was trying to improve on it
like ling died with at on of mana
and we were up 1
stable nymph
like inspire eves were broke f2p until we started winning tournaments..
leedizzle tournaments were how we got our first ib weps
mental rose
and i got nimble procc'd by the ShK with infi mana hp
and the instead of dying I started kiting and trying to play the magic pixel cuz "I dont wanan give him free kill!!!!"
fiery lionBOT
mishani has been warned
mental rose
then he respawned with no mana and i died 3s later and u can just see he thinks i am dumb as hell LOL
mental rose
bc he didnt have much ed psure LOL
yeah it hoiught that too
but i also n oticed
that the respawn ring
was actually putting in work
LOL
he'd respawn way faster than we were used to and have iron scraps or smth to boot
like it was actually a problem
lowkey
i enjoyed th inking about the macro and I appreciated how the game's macro emerged organically
from it's micro
and btw
stable nymph
like once it got to just some chars win the moment they secure 100+ mp advantage over u
stable nymph
and u werent playing a char that cud do that
i feel like continuing to play said char
is failure of macro…
mental rose
like once it got to just some chars win the moment they secure 100+ mp advantage...
well that never rly happened to me until after i stopped playing and then came bak in 2018
and when that happened i actually did try to reroll
fiery lionBOT
mishani has been warned
sinful anvil
chat banned
-_-
I went through all 4 roses trying to see if they had options to deal with a lot of the nonsense that was going at the time
but i was also
stable nymph
i tried to force eve every tournament like up until renewals and then i had my taste of nasodraven14 and twitface
and then the tournament after that was gbh into onetap spurt
sinful anvil
looking for characters where i could leverage my mechanix and tastes as well
stable nymph
and i was jsut like
stable nymph
the game ive been playing died so long ago
sinful anvil
if YR was a husbando
instead of a waifu
safety wouldnt have been playing YR
LMAO
stable nymph
like i remember portix and i signed up for that tournament
sinful anvil
the game ive been playing died so long ago
100 ms seems to have disappearted relatively recently
stable nymph
and we just noshowed bc it was so insane
eve converts for blak hole
then dw oneshots with spurt
then during respawns they get mp to do it again
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
stable nymph
i think too many of us in the pre renewal period clung on to wat we thought was cool rather than doing wat actually worked
sinful anvil
this game's macro always began with and emerged from its micro its always been like that. I expect a lot of wild nonsense from these games n tbh it's a part of what makes them 👌 imo, but what's important is that, at a fundamental level, it feels good to just move around and exist on the characters in the game. if that stops being a thing then that's a huge no thanks from me
sinful anvil
i think too many of us in the pre renewal period clung on to wat we thought was ...
bro
well
please don't group me in with those peeps then LOL, that was not me and it's also not where i'm coming from with this 100 ms issue
in fact
that was 1 of the major issues i had with kirbyblader
back in the day LMAO
OR AT TEH VERY ELAST
KIRBYBLADER'S FANS
OK
kirby would cut the nonsens
when it was important but all the hype vids and stuff
had nasodraven15's pulling up in arena
trying to do step-it-up combos
and then flaming wind sneaker
for being lame boring ez mode zz>zz braindead
stable nymph
like if safety played swordies idt hed b platform sweeping for no reason or egoing ^zs
sinful anvil
and thats also another thing
i think it also might come down to
to an extent
the difference
between the characters
that we played
LOL
because eve was 1o f those swaglord characters ok
like u had a lot of hot steppa combo pop off vid type peeps on eve 2
but for a lot o those types of players
wind sneaker was like the literal antithesis to all of that
thats why u had players like qwasser who would roll WS and then try to do all of these fancy shmancy weird combos and stuff
o try and stand out as unqiue
and i always was of the opinion
that this person
doesn't actually know how to play elsord...
like there's a time and place for all of the moves he is using
in his combo videos
stable nymph
ig wat i think is that we were all being qwassers
sinful anvil
yeah
i absolutely
was not
LOL
like ever
people hated on em for it too
they hated on US
i should say
because
wind sneaker players ing eneral
LOL
(i mean ithought she was cool dont get me wrong)
sinful anvil
in his combo videos
like there's a time and place for all of that, but qwasser didnt actually play the actual elsword pvp
so he didn't understand
and there4
did not have an appreciation
for just how cool the character was in real matches
like all of those niche weird routes he was finding
I KNEW THEM ALL BTW, but i understood their value within the context of actual matches in weird niche situations
the Airelinna that everyone started fuming about in season 2
that busted broken skill
had been functioning that exact same way since day 1 of its release
stable nymph
like in earlier seasons i feel like learning the niche things was useful and there was meaning to the depth
but then as the game just devolved to securing resource advantage to snobal ppl to death
sinful anvil
it's just that no wind sneaker bothered to mess around with it because you had NF reducing your mp gain to 0 and the thing cost 150mp. they lowered cost by 30 mp and all of a sudden everyone is tosisng it out and talking about how op it was. I have clips of me using linna in S1 to dodge mana break myself during dread chase delay and dodge the missiles ok, i thought THAT was cool as hell. That was MACRO!!!! all of those cool uses for linna to tick urself out of the busted setups had been saround since day 1!!
stable nymph
everything else just became unimportant
sinful anvil
but then as the game just devolved to securing resource advantage to snobal ppl ...
those weird niche things maintained there relevance and I would argue they still have a lot of relevance today right now,you can literally see it
you said it ended with ara
but that is nonsense
when ara released
and SD was broken
with flyign kite
the biggest counterplay kite i noticed was understanding how low-altitude shenannigans worked, and then using ur air options to play the platforms when you know they're fishing for kite, bc if they hit u and cause low-altitude nonsense, it messes up the kite tracking and cancels the skill
then combine that with either of the 2 linnas
im sure eve oculd have done it too
could*
and this was back safety rolled off of WS bc she didn't do enough damage after siege nerf, RS was being a pain with "house runes"
and it required "too much precision" (safety words) aka 2 much effort to deal w/ him in neutral on WS when you can just roll SD and ^x outrange his runes.
and yk it wasn't my #micro obsession that stopped me + safety from winning alinware laptops either. That entire 2v2 team comp with linna and YR res + suppression, bleed dmg was MY IDEA BRO ILL SAY IT. It was actually a really disgusting big money comp that we had no business losing on. We lost that tournament and placed 3rd because I hard choked (after chugging energy drink bad idea -_-).
that wasn't macro problem that was me sucking as a player
LOL
stable nymph
like relying on kindness of sd to continue to intrract instead of clocking more kite seems kinda lame
sinful anvil
like relying on kindness of sd to continue to intrract instead of clocking more ...
there's no more kite to clock
when she has full beads
fiery lionBOT
noobsux has been warned
sinful anvil
yes, and doing that would put her on cooldown. If she did that during altitude shenannigans it wou ld put her on the platform directly beneath u
then if u followed up on her back side (because she cancelled it with her counter skill), then u get catch. WHich mind u, u need ot be able to have ur character RESPOND to ur inputs within 100ms to be able to do that reliably JUST SAYING, but it was def a thing
stable nymph
why would u need to respond, if u know ur going to low altitude and they will end up below u and vulnerable u have all of kite animation to react..
sinful anvil
i had a LOT of exp in that matchup but it also leveraged rena mechanics i had spent a long time developing so u could say that part of it was teh 'cool' factor. I rly fcng like rena tho idk what 2 tell u, i had a WS obsession LOL
sinful anvil
why would u need to respond, if u know ur going to low altitude and they will en...
bc u dont know where they are going to end up specifically below
u
because of hwo it tps them
all over the place
like when it happens
it's really eratic
stable nymph
like if u r either cooked or they are below u and vuln
stable nymph
then u dont rly care about case where u r cooked right
u just send it assuming they r below u
sinful anvil
well u do care about the case where ur cooked because it might end up
in a scramble
LOL
and then whether or not u get cooked depends on how u react to and manage that situation
but also
in the event that htey end up below u, which often does happen
the way you play the platforms to stay in low-altitude positions
u dont know what exact position u will bei n
in
when they kite you
you might be moving through the top side of the platform and have majority of ur character model on top of the plat, in which case if u get kited at the moment ull take mid-air hit stun and then insta recover on top of the platform
thats like
the best scenario LOL
but it could also be that ur majority below the plat and they kite you once
and then cancel
after 1h it
so you drop down to the plat below, and they may or may not end up directly below you (as opposed to off to the side), in which case you 100% have a scramble on ur hands LOL, i'd be looking to stomp and then try to cross them up or smth because if she turns around and presses falling u already kno how that goes 💀
but also if she is slow with the cancel, and hits you several times wiht kite while you're below the plat, you might actually get pushed UP onto the top of the plat again
which is like
unexpected ideal scenario
LOL
also this part is rena specific but it gets a lot messier (which is a good thing for the not-SD player in this case) if u add airelinna in2 the mix
but thats rena privilege iiwii...
sylph or nymph either 1
tbh i used sylph vs safety
adn nymph vs the other SD's
stable nymph
tbh im so irked reading how much u had to prep for this scrnario when in aras pov shes just pushing her button
sinful anvil
THATS
stable nymph
and when it gets low altitudes
stable nymph
u get to roll the dice again in 20s
sinful anvil
cuz i had WS obsession and had been playing the character for so long, I genuinely liked thining about the WS mechanics and tools available to me, and how to solve new in-game problems with them i LOVED it. And also mind u ok i get how it's irking but
this strat was rly consistent
agaisnt p. much every SD EXCEPT safety
i don 't think rearou started playing SD seriously until the suppression era LOL
i approached every SD match like this and the result is that if the SD doesn't turn their brain on more than just pressing kite + falling they're going to lose. And I would almnost always lose to safety on SD
but i already almost always lost to safety on WS
LOL
and the mirrors i had vs safety's WS where I was literally pulling out every trick in the book to try and win were legit the funnest matches I ever played in elsord full stop
and i lost the vast majority of those matches like he actually steamrolled me
thats y fendo and co lowkey would always hate on me in early s1 bc they'd see someone say 'mishani top ws' while knowing that i regularly went 10-3 vs safety in spars. But that's ALSO why i can confidently say that safety was absolutely not just a macro player.
safety was strong from the ground up
sinful anvil
u get to roll the dice again in 20s
also the 20s is ur opportunity to capitalize and catch n all that. In the case of WS like obviously I would be trying to do dmg and build up mp for linna, but as eve u probly ahd actual damage options back then LOL
stable nymph
i didnt mean to imply they were pure macro but rathr the rest of us werent rly
sinful anvil
TBH I CANT BELEIEV U SAYING ALL THAT BRO ngl im not doubting u but idr you ever being
i dr you ever being
a micro swaglord eve bro LOL
and is til thought
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
sinful anvil
.
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
sinful anvil
HUH
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
mental rose
and is til thought
i still thought u and lameduck were cool as hell on eve espec your duo. also i was a closet lameduck fan on the low icl...
i think that what is aid
but my POINT
is that
wel
ok
maybe 1LD's eve era
is throwing off
my memory
i didnt pay muhc attention2 i t cuz we got hard cheesed r1 in that 2nd 2v2 tourny it was actually tragic...
and then 1ld ended up in finals
heavens fist vs weiyan
LOL
then agian tho now that im thinking about it
in s1 idr seeing you and willb in arena 2v2 very much....
but we did see alot of kirbyblader and like caiius for example
stable nymph
i was 180ap tier in s1
fiery lionBOT
mishani has been warned
mental rose
OML
stable nymph
i could not queue into most ppl
mental rose
we were 180 tier too
stable nymph
and needed kirbyblader to help keep derank
mental rose
like always
i might be misrememebring
remembering
nah im def misrememebrimg im sure we got you in 2s in s1
bro my brain
is just
has so much 1LD in it
LOL
stable nymph
ss was like 140 and duk was like 160?
mental rose
u guys were friends w ling to right
i think he started deranking
after u guys started
stable nymph
s1 had like our +7 deadly glad period
but it also had elympics
and +10 henirs toward the end
mental rose
ok ngl i wasnt a "micro kool combo swaglord" but i still was rly cringe about like not cheating, and staying ss to pvp "legitimately" against good players instead of 'stomping on scrubs'
but ngl i also didnt mind fighting u guys over and over in 180 ap tier arena either 💀
mental rose
and +10 henirs toward the end
did u guys actually maejk +10 henirs htats crazy
respecc..
i am ethically opposed to killing mobs it is what it is
but i always thought
henir challenge
was mad cool
LOL
people had all of the strats
down
for how to properly handle each boss and the strats themselves were also cool
stable nymph
type h card for 20m
mental rose
made kool use of elsword physix mecheanics and yeah
stuff like using certian monster summoning cards
u know
i also rly liked the idea of
collecting different monster summoning cars in order ot use them
in free training
to test different game mechanics n see how they worked
and figure out new stuff LOL
like I LIKED THE WAY IT HAD u
stable nymph
like jerb was micro man compred to kirby or rearou but kirby was micro man compared to willb…
mental rose
or i liked the way it incentivized you to think critically about all the different types of mobs uve encountered in the game, and which ones have mechanics that would help u test w/e it is u want to test, or practice w/e it is u want to practice
mental rose
like jerb was micro man compred to kirby or rearou but kirby was micro man com...
bro
the thing is
kirby
played really smart in 1s im sure every rena tell u that ok
fiery lionBOT
mishani has been warned
mental rose
SRS
the thing about kirby is i feel like he did a lot of circus stuff for the fanZ ok LOL
like the gap between kirby and jerb
was
HUGE
in terms of how effective they actually were
at winning gaems
caiius was basically playing on 100ms
back then
LOL
stable nymph
even wen hes trying idt he has positive matchup vs will even despite there being pretty big gap in mechanix and familiarity with sword ppl
mental rose
like caiius would springstep so fast in arena that if I randomly jumped infront of his elboy
mental rose
he would springsep 3-4x into my body before realizing 'the rena is right next to me i can just press z'
LOL
YEAH
mental rose
even wen hes trying idt he has positive matchup vs will even despite there being...
that's how it was with
safety and I
LOL
i think a large part of was also that safety took a hiatus early on and was playing a ton of persona 4 arena (vanilla version), and before that he played a lot of blazblue and etc
meanwhile
like bro i used to play mabinogi
sup 😡
i mean and gunz and all taht but thats diff
safgety tried to explain corner concepts to me in elswrod terms in like 2011
and i legit thought he was speakin tongues at first LOL like hwas ex plaining why the bottom right corner platform on wintery is really strong for WS
bc of how they can cover every option
with BFS, reflect kick, etc
and iw as like 🐒
stable nymph
movement tech wss
mental rose
idgi ima just dodge his attacks and hith im w/ mine ezpz 🐒
stable nymph
so overrated in our era
mental rose
WS movement was huge but if el tlike it was under appreciated LOL
actually u kno what
ur right
i forgot about some of the hooligans
i remember there was tihs rena
eucliwood
she would run petri 3
and clearly had some sort of >>vZ macro, cuz >>vZ was NOT easy on rena at all
and he would petri u
and then
spam the macro
and >>vZ at the like mach speed
and chunk ppl for 40% with it
LOL
like yeah ok bro
mental rose
movement tech wss
tbh tho when i look back at my first 1v1 arena montage
i kinda cringe
because of how muhc ^V ^V ^V i was doing
on rena
LOL
like there is literally no reason
its not elboy ...
stable nymph
psure will was better at cem 1s than i was despite him not being able to eve spring comfortably while i was like second coming of mal
stable nymph
tbh i hated how non eve players treated eves doing low consecutive springs as
good movement for eve
mental rose
i 100% had better control of character than safety but he still was better at ws 1s
mental rose
tbh i hated how non eve players treated eves doing low consecutive springs as
ME TOO
ok for first 6 motnhs
fiery lionBOT
mishani has been warned
stable nymph
like eve needs her diagonal dash to do a fast fall, but if u land from a fast fall u lose the ability to diagonal dash after a neutral jump (which gives u starting height to do anything useful like place a ^z)
low consecutive springs cudnt lead to anything so the bottlenek was moving in a way that let u start with a jump while retaining diagonal dash
which mal discovered u cud do by bak canceling the landing animation
kindred frost
yeah I agree, that is super frustating. It makes me feel so slow, and that I cant trust my inputs, which affects my game play and decision making. I lose trades I feel like I shouldnt.
buoyant folio
All rena does is move around by kicking, eat hot chip, and spam funny arrow
Okay mb Mishani you're so right
cold chip* 😔
kindred frost
I love how we're talking about the science of input delay and Lerne pops up and is like "I hate her voice man"
buoyant folio
LMAO
I mean it's true
she sounds like an angry hag
off-topic but look at this beautiful creature
kindred frost
off-topic but look at this beautiful creature
you me and nisha are the rabbit gang
kindred frost
is there anyway to fix these input delay? Like maybe a software or something
I already play on full screen
buoyant folio
I'm certain high refresh rate can lower latency
stable nymph
ngl it was pretty useful in teams bc it just let me hover around ready to respond to things way more readily than i cud otherwise
buoyant folio
VSync can make latency problems worse
Obviously a good connection helps a lot
and a constant stable fps
kindred frost
I have 144hz refresh rate
buoyant folio
but like most of latency will probably be tied to the servers themselves
so you.. won't be able to do much
to lower it
kindred frost
smh ~_~
stable nymph
but the return on time investment was pretty low compared to if i had just learned to bettr use blink/spitfire and explored less greedy aka more reliable combo routes
kindred frost
but the return on time investment was pretty low compared to if i had just learn...
brooo why does blink feel so CLIENT SIDED MAN
stable nymph
in 1s i was basically at the level of 1s players alts
kindred frost
like I be trying to catch with it and they just skill out of it
stable nymph
brians dw would dumpster me even without spurt
buoyant folio
Brains
stable nymph
if u get skilled out of something a few times it probably means it doesnt work on ppl who r mashing aka shud probably stop doing it LOL
buoyant folio
I mean
you can arguably be outmashed out of almost anything if someone tries hard enough
and if the game decides to be quirky
Besides using a skill also lets you learn timings and placement
better to use and learn than to not learn at all and remove a skill completely from your kit
kindred frost
if u get skilled out of something a few times it probably means it doesnt work o...
nah that makes sense, it just looks like it should!!! It would be so easy if it did, cause I either use mind photo and just a whole tenaciy or time it with xx>x and sometimes I miss up
stable nymph
stop doing it in context where u just saw it not work
buoyant folio
P sure there's some players who h ave learned how to reliably mash out of things thanks to certain mechanics and bugs the game has though
💀
buoyant folio
stop doing it in context where u just saw it not work
Ye that's where learning comes in
buoyant folio
nah that makes sense, it just looks like it should!!! It would be so easy if it ...
95% of the game ngl
"It looks like it should"
Yet it doesn't.
and there's also the fact that "it looks like it shouldn't"
Yet it does 😭
stable nymph
me trying ca in pvp
tag someone with a button and it feels like i can shower and come back and theyl still be in hitstun
buoyant folio
Why stop at a shower
You can probably go through 4 years of college, find your dream job
get a boyfriend/girlfriend
get married
have 5 children
have a couple of grandchildren
Retire
and then they'll still be hitstunned
✨
stable nymph
i dont rly agree that everything is mashable but maybe i havent run into specific folks u have in mind
mystic elbow
Havent ran into the main character himself Zeemoney
That guy either has the luck of seven gods or just breaks his fingers mashing out of stuff
sinful anvil
All rena does is move around by kicking, eat hot chip, and spam funny arrow
not tru at all there was mad nuance to rena's movement, especially in s1
sinful anvil
its a srs take bro ppl mean it LOL
sinful anvil
and u got add role
buoyant folio
I'll make sure it's more obv it's a joke
buoyant folio
That guy either has the luck of seven gods or just breaks his fingers mashing ou...
God
this almost sounds familiar
mystic elbow
sinful anvil
like eve needs her diagonal dash to do a fast fall, but if u land from a fast fa...
BRO
THE EVES THAST DID THE LOW OCNESCUTIVE SPRIGN STEPS STARTED MAKIN ME CRINGE AFTER A WHILE
buoyant folio
https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-642035179493...
God we should make a meme w this and add DA in it
sinful anvil
especially after i fough tu and lameduck in sparring
buoyant folio
DA 🤢
sinful anvil
and i go a lot of exp playing agianst jenny in 1s
and etc
and hten i would c these eves bro
mystic elbow
Id use it for bad takes
sinful anvil
altho ngl
buoyant folio
Yo like
mystic elbow
“LEAVE ME ALONE”
“75mp on awk isnt a lot”
“AGHH”
sinful anvil
actualyl n vm tbh idk if eve rly cared about lowkkcik
sinful anvil
low consecutive springs cudnt lead to anything so the bottlenek was moving in a ...
is this wehrte
where
'reverse momentum taser cancel" came from?
LMAO
broi i was dy ing
wait no
i think fendo
stable nymph
idts no cbs player did mal movement stuff
sinful anvil
that was probly fendo
no yeah
that was from teth air vs fendo arc mb
oml tht was so awkward
but it was so
dam funny
LOL
air had like +10 full add dmg cbs talkign about pianist fingers and trhe 'reverse momentum taser cancel' tech but then the irony
wa that azimuth
from appletree
he mained eve
and was unironically
a professional pianist
stable nymph
air cudnt rly springstep normaly iirc
sinful anvil
like he had music scholarship at university SF from vancouver and everythign and would regularly be doing piano performances
and then come home and play eve LMAO
so they were memeing on tyhe pianist fingeres
but like unironically
💀
sinful anvil
like eve needs her diagonal dash to do a fast fall, but if u land from a fast fa...
do u kmean like, if u fast fall after diagonal dash, an dur on the ground,
if u neutral jump from the ground
u cant do a diagonal dash?
stable nymph
ya
fiery lionBOT
.skwrl. has been warned
sinful anvil
oh god
stable nymph
how u land affected ur next jump
sinful anvil
wth*
why is that
do u kno LOL
like y would ur previous jump affect eat ur dashes in next jump if u land to reset them first
stable nymph
i think that was just the purpose of them giving eve a heavy landing animation
sinful anvil
OH
stable nymph
like when u land from a fastfall u dont go to neutral
sinful anvil
is it the heavy landing animation that stopped u?
stable nymph
i supose so ya
sinful anvil
i swear
rena not having a heavy landing animation in an environment where every other character did was 1 of the most busted things about her LOL
stable nymph
i hated cbs so much back then
sinful anvil
like when u land from a fastfall u dont go to neutral
so u would
back to turn to land in neutral
and that solved it right
<
like on the wya down from diagonal jump
stable nymph
and then turn back to face forward bc iirc if u only turn back it automaticaly forces u i to a dash
stable nymph
ya eve cud enter her dash without inputting dash ehich
made it easier on us to deal with born to blood
sinful anvil
NAHHHH U CANT JUST WRITE OF SHMOVEMENT BACK HTEN OK I T DEF WAS IMPORTANT
sinful anvil
ya eve cud enter her dash without inputting dash ehich
🤝
i swear the only ppl who had to respect leg wound
were like
other melee characters
💀
maybe aisha>?
stable nymph
it forced eve into zzz active but
stable nymph
our actives were strong so it was ok
sinful anvil
LOL
sinful anvil
tbh
after they gave ws
leg wound
ngl
landing leg wound on an eve
felt like
u just won the game
l.
tbh maybe that was cbs
cuz i dont thinkw e ahd leg wound low kick
until after cbs
lmao
probly bc cbs was so hard
to
catch
ok tbh how r u gna say u weren't focused enough on macro when u had
thunderbolt hyper
🤔
MN ELSORD WAS SUHC A COOL GAME LOL
stable nymph
i mean the fact i interacted at all insted of just
waiting for one of the best hypers in the game
probably means i was an idiot
sinful anvil
did u even
tbh i thnk only time i actually fougth u in tourny was that alienware tournament
and we dont talk abt that 💀
fiery lionBOT
divine_scholar has been warned
a bunch of times
sinful anvil
and tbh
sinful anvil
i mean the fact i interacted at all insted of just
isnt that what u started doing in 2018
but in 2018 u had better options
than ever b4
for doing that
at least i think
2018 was flamewall timeline tho..
kindred frost
How long ago was that
It resonated with me that hard that I remmeber
I still remmeber howling when I read that
stable nymph
2018 cbs or cu
sinful anvil
thats when i lost to marco oover n over dspite clearly having bertter mechancis neutral and etc
that was laso priopr to 100 ms change 🙄
stable nymph
idt i played eve as dirty as i shudv until 2019 era
kindred frost
idt i played eve as dirty as i shudv until 2019 era
whats your ign?
stable nymph
i wish the good players were around to experience it
i am errorcode
i did stuf like
sinful anvil
but thinking about how 2 solve the problem w/ mechanics being 1 of the huge tools @ ur disposal is still peak. Without that it's so sleeper
and that still aplies todya 2024 there are problems that oculd b ezily solved
stable nymph
jumping as the partner of the guy i was comboing was about to come in for a save
sinful anvil
with mechanics if it were nt for the fact we haev a massive
stable nymph
to trigger low altitude so i cud get a free mash on a 200mp
sinful anvil
to trigger low altitude so i cud get a free mash on a 200mp
LOL
stable nymph
cu was just broken bak then too
kindred frost
i am errorcode
omg I remember you, you were the CE
sinful anvil
but remember
sinful anvil
to trigger low altitude so i cud get a free mash on a 200mp
if u tried this before
and im not saying it wasnt viable before bc we def were on that nonsense #tumblecharacters,
but if u tried it in tourny and got hit at wrong time
u could lose
the 200mp
in 2019
u could just let it rip
and ur mp in particular
was rly valuable
wait
no yeah
ok im not sure how ezily u could get it back from swap
maybe u just swap and ur back in LOL
stable nymph
ya i just mean i was fully scumlord in 2019 no more playing the game for how i wanted it to be played
playing it for wat it was…
im sure the older era equivalent wudv just been clocking converts to hf ppl until it was time to clock converts to fred
i didnt even use hf
idk why i kept using assault spear
sinful anvil
yeah
wqhen u said that
the other day
i was confused
LOL
espec in s2 3v3s?
you didn hf?
maybe i was thikning of whoa
stable nymph
in tournament days i didnt hf
sinful anvil
tournament days as in 2019+?
stable nymph
im talking alienware to renewals era im psure i didnt bring hf
sinful anvil
y didnt u hf?
wait
was hf good
during alienware times
i remember a LOT of assault spear atp
stable nymph
it was a giant stun
sinful anvil
did it have the dmg tho
stable nymph
assault spear was basicaly a harder to hit hf that i cudnt follow up after usually
idr but even if hf itself didnt do as much dmg
follow up oberon guard wud def put it above
sinful anvil
y didnt u bring it???
stable nymph
and itd probably lead to mb
sinful anvil
i always assumed
stable nymph
prob because i was stupid
stable nymph
id probably be only considering best case scenarios
where i can folo up on spear and it hits targets hf cudnt
rather than realistic scenario of
spear being harder to hit in general on multipl targets due to funny angle and being difficult to follow up
stable nymph
ya
sinful anvil
multiple eves
being on the spear wave
after a certain point
LOL
tbh is spear a base eve skill
it must be
stable nymph
but cn and cem both had variants
sinful anvil
well hf was also a cool skill
stable nymph
cns was horizontal and imo much better bc easier to hit multiple ppl with that x axis coverage
cems was feeder move imo until eve got core
sinful anvil
horizontal spear u just jump over it if linna is out
diagonal spear it takes up the whole linna
adn then explodes hitbox through the whole thing 🙄
altho HF would do same
did the shockwave of hf stun?
or just laucnh
launch
stable nymph
maybe we didnt use hf because some chars had stun resist
launch on shokwave ya
only stuns on fist hit
stable nymph
the only ones that mattrd
stable nymph
ip too i think
stable nymph
ya thats prob y
sinful anvil
ILL SAY IT
stable nymph
hf unusable where it counts
stable nymph
brazzersman tho
sinful anvil
mcweenietron scorched the earth...
sinful anvil
brazzersman tho
brazzersman
was crazy
LOOOOOOL
and the craziest part
is he'd appear
in like the dead of night
with the sunhat on
playing in the relaxed
layed back way
possible
stable nymph
will was forged in vn powrr hours
sinful anvil
he'd stand
stable nymph
thats how he sees so far into the future
sinful anvil
over my body when i was kd
and wait for me to get up
and then press stoic
he didnt care
that i knew he was gonna do it
he'd do it anwyay
and iw ould tell safety
what is wrong w this brazzersman house run rs he literally justt presses stoic
but the thing is he would take games and it felt like he shouldn tb taking games it was weird
a true enigma...
stable nymph
michawk was the og…
sinful anvil
oh yeah i dont htink i ever saws michawk even type
stable nymph
before will repping the no flash swordies there was michawk
sinful anvil
LOL
but nah he would get carried away sometimes w/ regret i swear him and regret would try n do some
swordfire egochecking shennanigans sometimes...
stable nymph
i wudnt b surprised if mic was primary elsoed player will modeled his gameplay off of initialy
sinful anvil
michawk n regret...
stable nymph
just no frills but efective and we fought him so often on our eves
sinful anvil
did u notice how
regret
used to play pretty well
then he got rly geared in s2
or s1???
it was at somep oint
he realized swordfire was busted
stable nymph
regret was much worse than michawk by the time i ran into him regularly
stable nymph
i just remember him as tank luna n swordfire
stable nymph
random counters
sinful anvil
by the time he was on thta luna swordfire life he was alrdy gone...
like i remember him swordfire + luna'ing em in 1v1
unironic 100-0 no exaggeration
like he tanked and then did it
and i still won because nimble + airelinna
but i was genuinely confused
bc of how bad he was playing neutral and everyting
stable nymph
he basicaly had no neutral from wat i remembr
stable nymph
michawk was a stoic wizard
sinful anvil
like new player first time elboy bad
WAIT MAYHBE THAT WASNT REGRET
WAIT IM BRIAN BLASTING
THATM IGHTVE BEEN SEIQQ
LOL
stable nymph
like he wudnt even need sord fire for ppl
weiyan was high tier elboy mechanics with near michawk lv stoic usage which was rly rough to deal with
sinful anvil
yk in old forums 2011/12 someone made a meme suggestions post where they joking said that they should make phoenix strike do a 180 and fly back across the map after it reaches max range
fast forward 2024
mod phoenix talon
💀
stable nymph
rs had rng projectile reflect so sometimes eve wud just
sinful anvil
rs had rng projectile reflect so sometimes eve wud just
LOOOOOOL
stable nymph
explode herself trying to meb him
cn cant dash x launch him
god wat an awful passive
sinful anvil
a classic 4 sure
in busted siege era
u siege z weiyan against a wall
anda ll of a sudden it blows back and hits u in the fce
face
and then weiyan presses awaken
and lunas u
LOL
tbh
the amount of times
ive tried to reflect kick
meb
and failed
and just gotten hit for no reason
cuz the timing was awkward
then they finally made refelct kick super armor
sinful anvil
no i would always mistime it bc i was afraid of being hit and never practiced using reflect kick for actual reflects so wasnt sure about when the reflect frames came up or how long they stayed activ
but the intrusive thoughts would win way too often
cuz in my head I would imagine
"they're running active skill rings, they have MEB llvl +9999, it does a billion dmg, adn if i reflect it it will deal double dmg......"
"+ its slow..'
i dont thin it ever worked out
unless i went and chased down an MEB that had no one near it cuz it already whiffed
and then kicked it
at the side of map by myself
LOL
stable nymph
eves wud usually fly higher than meb level too wudnt they
sinful anvil
ya
also after they nerfed the original reflect kick hitbox to not be insta-activation 360 launhc
there was a huge delay on the hitbox bc it was 2 parts to it
so if u actually wanted to use it as an 'insta launch' like before, you had to turn ur back to the opponent and once ur foot was touching them, and then press it
bc the only "insta" hitbox was behind rena
but idt u could reflect
from the back
so
LOL
if meb is coming and ur comboing their team mate
and u turn to rk launch rip
stable nymph
i think weiyan mightv been my lowest wr matchup in like the pre tournament era
stable nymph
of like the actualy good ppl and not like spurt cheese at least
weiyan and regret had like saemish gear i think
but weiyan actualy played the game
sinful anvil
ya
weiyan was the only RS
pre-house rune
he put so much work
into developing that rune game
i legit dont think i ever saw an rs making use of those runes like weiyan did
and then they patched in house rune RS that could literally fly indefintiely ez np
stable nymph
idk why he chose to play with hackrs rather than like
stable nymph
ppl of similar skil lv
sinful anvil
and all of that tech he had spent last 2 yrs building up got streamlined over night LOL
stable nymph
like he was literaly kirbys partner for a tournament
throws that away for forkchung
sinful anvil
OH YEAH IT WAS KIRBY AD HIM VS 1LD
sinful anvil
throws that away for forkchung
bro im tellign u
weiyan
kiked
the hooligans bro
i got him in arena queue on BDO
like a month aog
ago
he was in a similar type of hooligan LOOL
and mind u
he even pulled
the weiyan special
and lag-warped out of my grab to 1 shot me with ulti ok
THOSE R WEIYAN'S PPLS
AND MIND U x2
WEIYAN LIVED LIKE 10 MIN FROM ALL OF US
and was would still randomly lag like he was from cambodia or smth....
stable nymph
wifi warriors
sinful anvil
net balancer t hat was not regualr..
stable nymph
dad using microwave
sinful anvil
i think he was the GM of armada but idk if he was the original gm
and in that case idk who was original gm...
sinful anvil
dad using microwave
LOL
stable nymph
1lds guild
sinful anvil
i thought 1lds guild was skittles
stable nymph
skittles was armada wasnt it