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mystic elbow
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Well crosso ones are easier since crosso’s the easier dungeon

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Im sure some pve nerd has the other one

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But if libra doesnt have it im willing to bet no one else does

lavish socket
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I have seen it been used in KR pvp tho it looks very broken

abstract yacht
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its mbable isnt it

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well
ig you could use it to force down a mb

dull forum
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30 second cd

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full screen tracking force

abstract yacht
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wait it's 30s??? :jari:

dull forum
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yea

lavish socket
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Yup

abstract yacht
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BRUH LMAO

better haunting spirit

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:lmaocry:

mystic elbow
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Its like pre nerf shattered earth all over again

lavish socket
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It's full screen tracking that's has pretty good damage and most people just MB it in KR

mystic elbow
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Yea but when u think about it

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The force is free to use

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N ppl are having to spend resources to avoid it like that

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N only 1% is ever going to have it too

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😭

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I pray no one gets it in NA anytime soon

dull forum
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hyper accel is as strong as is

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cuz its ona 30seconcd

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spammable forces r obnoxious

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hence why fog/hyper/haunting u see them being thrown off cd

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meanwhile obten/clock not as much

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or shatter

mystic elbow
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Imagine 30 sec cooldown shatter

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😮‍💨

abstract yacht
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I dont hyperaccel spam cuz Im confident Im gonna get hit by a stray bullet lmao

lavish socket
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Make all force active have 180 sec cd

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LMAO

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Jk

abstract yacht
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tbh force actives should have a separate PvP cd.

lavish socket
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Yea

abstract yacht
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they have done that b4 with normal skills I believe so is not impossible

dull forum
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thats the redhead classic

mystic elbow
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👁️

lavish socket
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Obtenation

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Lol

dull forum
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that too like

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me pressing iron body= they drop obten

mystic elbow
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Aisha special

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Obten

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Clock

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Strength skill

dull forum
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so thats 1 less option for the next 160 seconds

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☠️

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next tuesday finally pvp wep

lavish socket
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Wed

abstract yacht
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so like

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are ppl who have Bombardment force just

100% winning their matches?

lavish socket
lavish socket
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Not many people have it in KR as well

abstract yacht
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like idk
how do u even fight someone with it lol

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they can just stall and spam it for guaranteed catches without trading

lavish socket
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I think this is a problem of since not many people have it KOG not bothering to fix it

abstract yacht
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I mean if it didn't hitstun that would change things

but from what Im understanding, it has hitstun

lavish socket
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Similarly like the Rosso challenge force active since not many ppl have they don't fix it

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that Force active heals an incredible amount of HP

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For being a spammable force active

twin pawn
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anytime after that u can basically tell they're going to use it if they have it for a free catch

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im also almost 100% positive it only hitstuns initially but idk ive only seen it used like three times

lavish socket
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So basically it's shattered Earth before the nerf

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Where people would use it really quickly as their first catch

twin pawn
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u can even super armor it with ur own force active idk its probably just not that big a deal to me

warm hornet
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oh yes, got to make sure their dead. i like how in my fights, i remind people to make sure i'm dead in a fight. XD

hollow hound
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Some Add players are really toxic.

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XD

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Like they win and still salt at you.

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???

mystic elbow
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u fight "ew" or smth

hollow hound
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Eh, yeah. XD

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But now had a chilling conversation with them.

mystic elbow
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like chill good ? or chill 🥶 bad

hollow hound
mystic elbow
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oh

buoyant folio
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That is difficult to believe

hollow hound
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That was surprising.

buoyant folio
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Ew being capable of being chill?

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Nah he's tryna do something

mystic elbow
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nah he can be chill sometimes

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its like

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a layer

buoyant folio
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those are like onions

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Ew isn't Shrek though

mystic elbow
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of butthole u have to get past

buoyant folio
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🙄 .

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LLOL

versed knot
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When he knows you're a girl

buoyant folio
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just say you a 6 foot tall man

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ez pz

versed knot
hollow hound
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It's like I dodged a salt bullet.

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Since I did not "salt" back.

buoyant folio
buoyant folio
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Cassianwole

versed knot
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Exactly

buoyant folio
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or

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Cassiwole

versed knot
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She be whale

buoyant folio
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?

mystic elbow
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Casswole

abstract yacht
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sounds like casserole.

mystic elbow
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thats ok

buoyant folio
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Cassawole...

knotty kraken
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cassowole

hollow hound
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NL is a menance. o.o

buoyant folio
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everyone hjere is a menancencnencenencnececencnce

versed knot
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Said the one that used dme on me twice in a match 🔫

buoyant folio
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where

versed knot
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Wym where

buoyant folio
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WHERE

buoyant folio
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!?

twin pawn
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consume lerne

versed knot
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IT CANT BE PVE CAN IT

buoyant folio
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yes it can

kindred frost
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Using elsword lore to express my undying love to my partner

lavish socket
kindred frost
clever sigil
kindred frost
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Plus I also think I've been missing pvp so much I been working so much am also waiting for reset to get the awk and chatting here about anything related to elsword is how I get my fix

mystic elbow
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For some reason.. G is very nice to me when I’m on CS

buoyant folio
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because she doesn't know it's you

mystic elbow
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I dont even remember talking to them on my SH

hollow hound
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Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

mystic elbow
knotty kraken
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i love getting double fogged

fiery lionBOT
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pyro3119 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lavish socket
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ahh..

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well anyway it is client side stuff that why it happens

mystic elbow
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delete that

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when warning about hackers just say there's a hacker in SS q

lavish socket
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there a hacker in arena ig...

hollow hound
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Ok.

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Thanks for the information.

hollow hound
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Class?

mystic elbow
hollow hound
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¿Initial letter? 👀

buoyant folio
gritty wadi
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Road to +11 >:3
( I spent all my materials c': )

empty ore
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So with the new pvp season and whatnot

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I noticed that my Magic attack with my VoS dropped hard

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Before they were only like 10k apart

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now its half

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give or take*

white valve
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SoA lost a lot as well

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used to be 93k for pvp

mystic elbow
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This their way of making our weapons weaker so we’d get the duelist weapon?

white valve
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see nothing about it in patch notes

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i still need to test if its actual damage lost or just bugged

mystic elbow
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We can test that in a bit if u want

white valve
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kidnapped by VNs for pve so probably a bit later

mystic elbow
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💀💀💀

empty ore
hollow hound
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We need someone with a +11 duelist weap to check the stats.

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If it's still low, then gg for the nukes, I guess.

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(Or maybe not)

twin pawn
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the nukes definitely still nuke if kr is anything to go off of

white valve
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Did a few spars and stats seems the same

gritty wadi
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-Defense dropped as well, some geared people with ~70% def, now have ~60%
my max hp -9% (735k to 644k)
-The "free training" gives me strange numbers of damage
-My pet doesnt give me stats

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duelist +10 with 28% pawa

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maybe with +11 can reach 45k~

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This is my +11 vos

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will be similar

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so advantages...
-more mp red (5% without normalization)
-certain skill dmg
-2%mp red or 8% chance of double attack
-instead of % pawa, crit dmg and all skill dmg could be interesting

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and im still doing research 7w7

unkempt glade
abstract yacht
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ppl: nah duelist is equal to SoA

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KoG: we'll see about that

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ninja nerfs PvE weapons on PvP

white valve
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Pretty sure its just visual i still do full damage

abstract yacht
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so is the duelist wep functional as is in +9

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or would u guys rather keep going with vos +11 or whatever wep u guys got

abstract yacht
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THEY EXIST, LOWER THAN B TIER EXISTS

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that said why the hell was I placed in E rank lmao

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did they like, reset rank completely

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everyone starts from actual 0

mystic elbow
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Yea everyone's E rank rn

abstract yacht
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huh.

mystic elbow
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I see one B rank though

abstract yacht
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wonder if this is gonna be the new season reset standard

mystic elbow
abstract yacht
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just, shut everyone back to 0

mystic elbow
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idm that

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even Gin is E rank

abstract yacht
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at least that would show ppl who are actually willing to go for SSS

mystic elbow
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and he was star rank before

abstract yacht
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instead of getting placed SS for free

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although

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won't this screw the queue more than it already was?

mystic elbow
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yea probably

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I think what will happen is a lot of the lower players are gonna have screwed up W/L ratioes if theyre constantly having to fight star ranks every reset

abstract yacht
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suddenly I don't have dignity stones...
nooo I don't wanna do heroic....

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me: does duelist wep has specialize?
checks
me: oh it does... oh my god... alr time to buy stones

click on exchange

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bruh I have enough coins for my alts even

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this enough for like 10 chars

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and I prob have more on my alts themselves :wheeze:

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at least they are useful again, I guess

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oh wait it's 30 each slot, :lmaocry:
nvm it's more like for 3 chars then

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me to myself:

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what the-

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the skill dmg and mp cost start at the same value as armor's

Why crt dmg starts at even a higher value than armor can even reach-

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excuse me I jumped from 2.5 to 6.5 😭 ? how high can this go???

white valve
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7%

abstract yacht
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of course... it has enh effects.

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oh hey would u look at that, the +12 isn't actually a whale privilege stat

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I feel slower and I don't know why

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the only thing I'm changing is VoS to duelist wep

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and my vos has no aspd

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my aspd is still the same, 27%

fiery lionBOT
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overlord_cameron has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

abstract yacht
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I got proc'd FS' revive and I used drain on the dude
the drain did happen on his screen but not on mine 😭

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my own drain betrays me smh

celest ore
noble pelican
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Can’t wait to charge MP as Aisha-

boreal kayak
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this gear carried trash can actually just die

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i sure love doing nothing to anyone somehow no matter how much i hit them

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so like

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why is everyone E

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not everyone needs to be E

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i mean come on

mystic elbow
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they completely reset ranks

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and calm yourself down

versed knot
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Bring that back pyro

lavish socket
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I was looking at an older message and then the discord app updated

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Cuz I didn't notice that the conversation changed

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I think the reason why everyone is at e rank is because some people complained that there were not enough players

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Whether that be in Korea or anywhere else is anyone's guess

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In my personal opinion I do like this but I understand why casual players would not like this

boreal kayak
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yes, because i sure love doing a 2v2 with my friend and get one shot by devestating strike for 1m damage

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yep

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oh boy sure is fun

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what is this, 15 losses in a row now because of this crap? **** this game

knotty kraken
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sounds like a skill issue

hollow hound
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I mean, I think that if everyone is at E rank, more people would be motivated to achieve higher ranks.

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So yeah, there would be more people playing pvp.

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I guess.

boreal kayak
versed knot
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Naw it'll more like "Dang am getting outskilled in E rank and never gonna get out of this slum and cant get better cus ppl didnt let me learn"

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10/10 should go learn in sparr

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❤️

hollow hound
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💀

mystic elbow
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just give it a few days? this happens every reset regardless of rank

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star ranks will be bullying literal S ranks normally so nothing about this is different

abstract yacht
boreal kayak
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i mean i dont think getting one shot by devestating strike is a skill issue..

versed knot
abstract yacht
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I mean I love the fact that we have to climb from 0 again like in the old days

but at the same time... this feels eeeh

mystic elbow
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so true

boreal kayak
mystic elbow
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i agri ppl (S rankers) are not gonna have fun w/ this change

mystic elbow
versed knot
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Y'all remember back in the days we used to get paired with whoever in queue regardless of ranks and you'd get nothing while going up against a B rank as an SS and gained nothing but wasted time

mystic elbow
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yes 😭

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bro i was C rank and got hit w/ an SSS FB

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then SS NI

boreal kayak
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i should be doing something i would like to think

versed knot
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That was a great time, finally crawled to SSS after 800 matches

mystic elbow
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if it makes u feel better no matter how much defense u have youll still get one shot but youll be doing more dmg to make them mb if u had better gear

boreal kayak
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and yet clowns up above say i have a skill issue when its just a gear issue most of the time

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yeah, hey clown. you think your so good, where are you then

mystic elbow
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@knotty kraken yea where are u

knotty kraken
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hmm?

mystic elbow
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more than likely

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its your weapon and overall stats

abstract yacht
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in my personal opinion I still feel season 1 had the best ranking system.
cuz it was measured by your winning and losing streaks mostly

hollow hound
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Ahhh, yes. I remember when I was winning against a BQ... My HP was almost full but they casted Brandish and game over. 😂

mystic elbow
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weapon, stats, erp, costume do i need to continue?

knotty kraken
boreal kayak
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i mean i could care less if you block me really

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in fact let me return the favor lol

knotty kraken
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u asked where i was

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so here i am kid

boreal kayak
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does anyone here mind sparring me so i can learn again?

mystic elbow
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yall can ED match

versed knot
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AYO SPARR? SAY LESS FAM

mystic elbow
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bro

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NOO 😭

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NOOOOO

boreal kayak
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lol jk

knotty kraken
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please bol

versed knot
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No one shot, this man is about to be zzzx'd to death

hollow hound
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I can understand your frustration, but at this point the more you rant about it, the more power you will be giving them. Sadly, some people would try to make you feel bad and stuff to increase their egos, so the best you can do is ignore them or don't salt back.

knotty kraken
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do it

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i aint even been on today

mystic elbow
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Ms NessA is so nice sadgeplant

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Now among my favorite players

dull forum
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Thoughts on new pvp chat

mystic elbow
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w/ Mitsu n Cosmo

dull forum
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Did it save the game

mystic elbow
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💀

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did it save the game.

knotty kraken
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pvp chat doesnt exist

dull forum
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Yk I am capping cassian

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Apparently they made it harder to get rp

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Which I'm happy for

mystic elbow
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now yall probably wont ever have to derank

dull forum
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Cuz I can play chars for longer

abstract yacht
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I can't really sparr with ppl who are starting to PvP

either I go too soft that I literally sometimes walk around and get hit to let them combo
or go as I would go in arena and not let them play 😭
I can't measure play level

mystic elbow
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u sound like starmeow cept he's just the 2nd option whole way thru

dull forum
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I did 2 games on genesis I got kicked out of rotation cuz I won both games

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Then I was forced to play es

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Then fl

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Then ad

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☠️😭☠️

mystic elbow
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what rank u at now

dull forum
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Rankless

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I'm at work

boreal kayak
mystic elbow
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oh this was b4?

boreal kayak
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FP right?

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i was the innocent

abstract yacht
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were u the IN?

dull forum
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This was las night

boreal kayak
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i had to try with you. lol

dull forum
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B4 reset

abstract yacht
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I mean if I really wanted I could've pulled BP on you and that was game

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and that's kinda my issue

mystic elbow
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icic

abstract yacht
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my nuke button basically

mystic elbow
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well rn everyone ive seen aside from 1 person is E rank

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😭

knotty kraken
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battle pass

boreal kayak
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oh, i see

knotty kraken
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god likes to hit people with it

mystic elbow
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i like to hit ppl w/ my sub 90 mp nuke

hollow hound
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How much % do you gain per won match?

abstract yacht
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not a lot actually

hollow hound
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I am not in game right now.

mystic elbow
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how much per loss

abstract yacht
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from 24% went to like, 19% I think? I don't remember

mystic elbow
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ngl the loss % vs win % has always had a crazy difference

abstract yacht
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I think I gained what I lost

hollow hound
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Why E when you can derank to F.

abstract yacht
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but the % isn't a massive jump like hurrhurr E rank? go from 10% to 60%

no

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I'm still in 39% and I did quite a few numbers of matches

hollow hound
mystic elbow
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A rank about to be high rank

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😭

abstract yacht
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sounds nice TPChuckleJustABard just like s1 TPChuckleJustABard

versed knot
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No more ez access to the funny chair

knotty kraken
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😭

mystic elbow
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thats ok nowadays u can just buy the rosso or berthe chair

abstract yacht
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me in my funni swing:

versed knot
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See, funny chair is free

mystic elbow
dull forum
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Time to game on immortal

versed knot
clever sigil
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and, hot Take:

(I want to preface this, I'm aware that very VERY few people harbor the same mentality as me. So, Hope you're prepped to cringe at this)

TL:DR:

there may be some issues with everyone starting at E rank, And some Demotivation, But the Stat normalizing, Resets, and Current yet temporary queue times makes these pvp changes seem nice. I like it.

NON-TL:DR:

I can see how everyone being E can be a de-motivator. especially when people want to fight folks at their own level. But, I kinda like it.
It's smilar to D2's "issues" with SBMM VS CBMM. When Rank isn't considered or most ranks are closer together, queue times are faster. If they're farther apart? You gat a longer queue time.

Again, as I said about fixing/ improving arena. Gotta add some more incentives(weekly rewards for reaching certain ranks/Overall wins), or rewards at the end of the seaosn (I Can give ideas, or send you to the Thread I started AGES ago about PVP Re-invigoration).

There's SOOME balancing of the stats. (untill folks get their duelist weapon amped up to +11 and 12), But if they can add an "upgradability" option for the duelsit gear, (a pipe dream) it'll iron out the RNG/ Time investment factor (so time can be invested into your abilities, piloting, etc.)

And, the "stat pvp normalizations" I approve. Sure there's still gonna be some heavy hitters, but I can mess with it.

This can be smooth brained coming from me, But I can mess with this.
All that is left is a way to bring up the game population, or at least the PVP population. And that's gonna be a massive Abyssal Taking (undertaking isn't even deep enough to define this objective).

abstract yacht
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the thing is they used to have upgradeable sparring gears

but they scrapped that after s4 so like...

they probably won't want to re-add it because m o n e y

clever sigil
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tragically true.

boreal kayak
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i am a raven main myself

clever sigil
clever sigil
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mollywhopped the soul outta me @buoyant folio

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gg

buoyant folio
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Hi

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I'm loving this new weapon

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but I'm so stupid and bought a +9

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😭

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I forgot the cube existed

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kill me

buoyant folio
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Wyntter

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fund me

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🥰

twin pawn
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no

buoyant folio
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😔

celest ore
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e rank is crazy

clever sigil
lavish socket
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LMAO

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imagine u work hard to get A or S rank

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just to get it rip away from u again

clever sigil
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Weren't a good chunk of folks here saying that Getting S rank was EZ?

hollow hound
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💀😂

mystic elbow
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Pre change yes 😭😭

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Today no one can get out of E rank

clever sigil
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and , ngl, Im down for the climbing, We freaking ball.

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More people to throw hands with.

clever sigil
hollow hound
clever sigil
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tho i get how crazy it is atm.

mystic elbow
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I saw a TW with B

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Idk how they managed that

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Considering they have an equal w/l ratio

hollow hound
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Let's farm that A.

knotty kraken
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it could be the bug ngl

hollow hound
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A is the new Star rank.

clever sigil
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won't deny one thing tho, The AP gain is abyssmal.

lavish socket
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nah we geting F rank right guys lol

knotty kraken
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their rank prob wasnt reset

lavish socket
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LMAO

mystic elbow
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It is awful

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4% win

hollow hound
clever sigil
summer merlin
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I shoulda bre bought jells

mystic elbow
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Paeq and quan prob have some

summer merlin
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Nah it's cuz I'm sellin

mystic elbow
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Ic how much are they

summer merlin
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Yesterday at 10 mil, now they at 46

mystic elbow
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LOOOOL

knotty kraken
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me when i have 15 stacks

kindred frost
mystic elbow
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Mona ily but what the hell is this

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😭😭😭😭

kindred frost
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Just do it, dont give up

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uhhh what else do people say

kindred frost
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YEA

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what other generic motivation statements are there

mystic elbow
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Err

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BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD

kindred frost
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YEAH

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no pain no gain

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what the

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i gotta work harder to get to ss?

clever sigil
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Does osmoene know a Surya that starts with the Letter "D"?

kindred frost
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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THEY SORTED IBS FROM NORMAL COSTUMES AND RUINED MY ORGANIZATOIN

lavish socket
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Join the party

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I had to reorganize my stuff too

kindred frost
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welp off the bat pvp p weapon looks very much worth waiting for

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mpr and dmg

lavish socket
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Yeah the only problem is getting to a +11 if ur broke like me

clever sigil
lavish socket
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😭

clever sigil
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and, I fear for how disgusting those Duelsit weapons will be at +11.

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If i could earn a +10? then that weapon can be good enough.

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(at least after I get a SoA)

lavish socket
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Apparently they lowered the damage for SOA and VOS

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For PVP

white valve
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Didnt

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i still do full damage

lavish socket
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why the numbers are different

white valve
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bugged if i have to guess

lavish socket
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Fine

kindred frost
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in yalls honest opinon should I switch to deulist weapon now or keep my +!1 vos until I ccan +11 it

lavish socket
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Keep your vos until you can +11 the duelist weapon

mystic elbow
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Don’t u have an SoA

kindred frost
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I did, but I didnt really work on it when I found out we were getting a new pvp weapon I decided to wait

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to actually work on it

lavish socket
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If anything just have that SOA PVE only

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Since it's close enough to an SOA

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Unless you want to min/max

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Then go right ahead

kindred frost
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its go time

mystic elbow
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If the SoA is +11 I’d just have that as the main weapon

kindred frost
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yeah its not 11

mystic elbow
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Unless u have crazy luck with enhancing

kindred frost
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tene and Rma are the same person right?

mystic elbow
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Yes

kindred frost
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got eeeemmm

knotty kraken
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my full pvp setup only gives 26.7k attack lmao

clever sigil
#

. So, Serious question for you folks.

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has anyone here been reported for "Gameplay" or playstyle?

mystic elbow
#

Not that ik of

clever sigil
#

I think im going to fall victim to a False report.

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Dunno why they're (a Surya) is reporting me, but they aren't ableto muster a reason for reporting me.

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Don't even know what I did to them, So i asked them "Was there any latency, lag, delay"?

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They have given no sort of Reasoning, Even at this moment. I still don't know what the hell I did to them.

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Besides stopping my replies ( I Stopped my replies and questioning at this moment)

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Is there anything I can do?
( and all I can even think they're going haywire or hellbent on me is for my playstyle, Hell. . . I don't get it. You got innovations, Seighart, and some other Ravens out there that play FAR more flasher and Refined than I)

abstract yacht
#

depends, was him just reporting you for "gameplay" or did you get an actual warning or something?

clever sigil
#

Got no warning.

twin pawn
#

then it wont mean anything

abstract yacht
#

because if that someone is just going "I'ma report u for XXXXX"

ignore them.
even if they did report you, high chances the CS is gonna ignore the dude's report

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or give them a polite "no"

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because unless you're hacking, there's nothing they can ban you for.

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lagging is not a report reason
spamming one button over and over is not a report reason
running around the map is not a report reason

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playstyles aren't a report reason

clever sigil
#

I don't even know how the hell to hack or make a "playstyle macro"
Everthing I do Is all natural, with all natural Flaws, Flare and finishes.

abstract yacht
#

then you don't have to worry about a dude yapping nonsense

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throughout the years I've also gotten ppl who are salty and go "I'm gonna report you"

still fine as is.

there was only one time someone told me they'd report me where I actually felt like I had to do something
because they thought I was hacking and considering the circumstances, I could've been actually been seen as a hacker even though I wasn't
so I threw a pre-emptive defensive CS ticket to point the things I was doing and that it was legit

other than that, these kinds of people are just mad that they lose

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and throw the report card to "threaten" people

mystic elbow
#

Yes they can’t rly report you for how you play

clever sigil
#

Will Try.

#

Thank you guys once again.

noble pelican
#

with my gear + talents, i'ma stay in the slums of E

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my heart can't handle seeing past SSS players while i'm playing with the spar weap 😭

clever sigil
summer merlin
#

I'll forever cherish my E rank era

#

It's been a good run

dull forum
#

@mystic elbow

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im still erank

mystic elbow
#

LMAO

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💀💀💀💀

buoyant folio
#

Wow

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cassian already reached Star rank huh

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gj

celest ore
#

everyone being sss in s3 🤝 everyone being e now

mystic elbow
buoyant folio
#

teach me your ways

hollow hound
#

The "I am going to report you!" stuff usually sounds like a "I am going to accuse you with my mom!". Most of the time people who say that do it to try to "scare" you. It's like a card they take out when they lose or are going to lose.

versed knot
#

Thanks god it only took me 4 years to grow out of that phase

cyan quail
#

Yesterday feels like a fever dream

empty ore
#

It really was

#

Turned out ranking was just broken LOL

noble pelican
#

What changed? I saw there was the emergency fix

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Hope I’m still E rank. The queue time has been great

empty ore
warm hornet
#

Personally, I don't like the change they did with eve's >>z
For one reason...

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It doesn't or cannot be dash canceled in midair or after going off ledge.

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Same with CE's >>ZX

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If anything, i can do a full dash attack off the ledge but doing a combo follow up after the ledge cross is horribly tight now...

cyan quail
#

Q was active from very early in the morning all the way until reset

noble pelican
noble pelican
kindred frost
#

I'm so glad we have pvp gear now that's good

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I'm sure many of us hated the pve wall

#

But this does make me wonder

Is the duelist weapon better or soa?

I'm in a position where both of mine are +9 and not really worked on yet. Duelist has +5 mpr and asd which is great. But does imprint and mystics make it soa better?

I'm interested in min-maxing

white valve
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Duelist is stronger than vos but weaker than soa

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the extra stats from specialize is incredibly strong

warm hornet
# noble pelican You’ll find a way to make it work! Your combos are always mesmerizing

I was hopping that they'll fix the client side jank of it only, as in >>z spear doesn't go out that far in the opponents point of view and thus you really had to kiss the enemy for dash attack to connect.

And how they fixed that?
They didn't...
They made the lundge go in hella fast and deep, so client sided hits will be way harder to happen and it's also now much faster than eve stepping(without accel aura).

But if anything, eve's >>z is now functionally better. But I still hate it that I can't dash cancel it if I go off ledge.

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Like I dash attack off ledge then into a air dash to close gaps and to run.
Now I can't really do that.

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And last to note, >>z loses a lot of momentum the moment you go off the ledge/platform as you do it.

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As in, it becomes slower than the air dash.

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And CE's >>ZX off the ledge doesn't make it any faster.

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And weirdly enough, CE cannot do >>ZZZ when leaving the platform but can do >>ZX.

mystic elbow
#

S ranks represent

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🗣️ 🔥

willow mural
#

ain bro

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💀

willow mural
#

so lemme guess

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crit dmg + mp cost for the armor?

abstract yacht
#

what armor?

mystic elbow
#

er depends on your class

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certain classes like the Adds would use asd

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most classes use crit dmg

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so whatever u feel like would help u more

versed knot
#

FL usually goes to skills for dmg so I say asd

abstract yacht
#

FL has great commands so she's better off in Cdmg

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essentially the choice is
good with cmd but lack skill dmg? Cmd dmg
good with skill dmg but lack cmd? ASD
can do both? Cdmg

warm hornet
#

if anything, command damage is now a fair option for the PvP change.

heavy spear
#

looks at the adrestia that i haven't touched in over a year

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is she still really strong in 1s? like, still have that unstoppable neutral?

buoyant folio
#

luciel 3rd path is so braindead to fight against

buoyant folio
#

she'll never not be strong until they get rid of those multi-hit super armor commands

heavy spear
#

i felt so dirty using her dive that i consciously tried to start using her other tools to catch

buoyant folio
#

her other tools are also broken

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LMAO

heavy spear
#

ok but how's her damage output now

willow mural
#

still broken

heavy spear
#

i see.

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does she still ZZX because i read that was nerfed

willow mural
#

remember when they said they were going to make pvp better

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pepperidge farms remembers

buoyant folio
#

yoo

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You managed to get out of my hits 2 times in a row 😭 @warm hornet

#

what happened there

#

rlly caught ben just to have her be slippery 😔

willow mural
#

SHUSH

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they cant no my weakness

buoyant folio
#

WDYM YOUR WEAKNESS

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you literally kept hopping midcombo

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😭 PLS

willow mural
#

I COULDNT SEE

buoyant folio
#

wdym you couldn't see

willow mural
#

idk

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i just cant see

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mty ahh gettin whooped

buoyant folio
#

sure pal

abstract yacht
#

Ben has a toaster when in PvP

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he ignored my BP twice 😭 and he was just standing still 😭

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jokes aside, u got that fixed or does it still happen?

buoyant folio
#

Isn't ben's

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pc like

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laggy

willow mural
#

no

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it used to

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if it was months ago thats cuz my charger was buns

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but that was fixed a while back

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i can force myself to lag though =]

mystic elbow
#

everyone pvping w/o me

buoyant folio
#

ben u r suspect rn

versed knot
#

It's ok ben I can come in and lag with you ❤️

willow mural
#

trust me eeven if i did it wouldnt be beneficial towards me

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i eat all dmg but i cant even press buttons

buoyant folio
#

god I hate specialization system

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just give me 100% chance

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ezpz

willow mural
#

kinda tempted to specialize

#

but if i wanted to do that id just use my soa

buoyant folio
#

How are you getting

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all th is mana

#

to manabreak and then pull out a powerful skill

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😭 pls

willow mural
#

idk

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SORRY LERNE THAT WAS FUNNY AS HJELL

mystic elbow
#

its FL bro

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😭

#

redhead magic

versed knot
#

Funny the MPx saying that

mystic elbow
#

she's not like us

#

that is kinda funny isnt it

willow mural
#

if i really wanted to be lame

#

i could just loop zz

versed knot
#

What rank are y'all at rn

mystic elbow
#

0

buoyant folio
#

you are literally

#

made of oil

#

everytime I catch you

#

you just jump out

mystic elbow
#

Larry why arent u NL yet

willow mural
#

bro ur atks are delyad

#

i can jump out

versed knot
mystic elbow
#

whens that

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8/14?

#

the jc wont expire by then?

buoyant folio
#

gonna check my connection rq

versed knot
#

Hopefully

#

Yeah I can jc the night before

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Then next morning start loading up

willow mural
#

hold on ill record too

buoyant folio
#

Yeah my connection is fine

mystic elbow
#

loading up? Frown

buoyant folio
#

😭

#

nah don't record

mystic elbow
#

why dont u load up some bt-

buoyant folio
#

it'll be a lot worse to fight you

#

LMAO

mystic elbow
#

nvm

versed knot
#

Feisty arentcha

mystic elbow
#

what are u tryna get

buoyant folio
#

depression

mystic elbow
#

clearly but i mean material items

versed knot
#

Some seed for reforge, teneb char change tix are the main things

mystic elbow
#

char change?

#

wait why

versed knot
#

Found some teneb gloves for cheap than making one from scratch, even with the tix

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So I nabbed em

mystic elbow
#

seii says that he's gonna work on his BQs vos stages

#

1-10 how likely is he to actually do that

#

even w/ nerf

versed knot
#

What, actually going from s0 to 5?

mystic elbow
#

i think s1 or s2

#

idr if he ever finished s2

versed knot
#

Would he grind if you tell him that he gets to pvp a doggo

mystic elbow
#

no he's sayign he'll do it

#

1-10 how likely is he

versed knot
#

Saying-

mystic elbow
#

yes

buoyant folio
#

😭

#

yeah ben is unfightable for me rn

#

pre-pvp weap... was superior

#

😔

versed knot
#

I gib a 4

buoyant folio
#

She just

#

legit

#

I can't catch her LOL

#

I had her in my hitbox range but she immediately skilled out of it

#

😭

#

I'm going to assume

#

elsword servers

#

are very unstable today

willow mural
#

I'm having trouble too

#

But I gotta deal with it n git gud

knotty kraken
#

i love how literally every etw is better than me

#

really living up to my title

versed knot
#

What other etw beside you

knotty kraken
#

all

willow mural
#

Ain't no way bro hit me with a skill off screen 😭

knotty kraken
#

i only ever lose etw dittos

buoyant folio
willow mural
#

Yeah I deserve that

#

Actually no I hate those

#

They feed so much mp

#

You want them? Take them from me pls

knotty kraken
#

im pretty sure if anyone slightly geared their alt etw

#

theres like a 50/50 shot you could beat me

buoyant folio
#

they feed a lot of mana huh

#

but I can't even do much of skill usage when you can utilize that

#

😭

willow mural
#

Yeah they do

#

Cuz it's the z on top of the mana

#

Imagining what if avatar of fire had drains hotbox

#

Hitbox

#

🥴

buoyant folio
#

Rip 🔪

abstract yacht
#

time to buy synergy on my TB cuz she's just so close to be able to acces pruiout

#

40m on an alt y a y

buoyant folio
#

Toilet Baper

abstract yacht
#

oh wait this is the pvp ch- kek didn't notice

buoyant folio
#

🤓

mystic elbow
#

larry doesn't want my etw

knotty kraken
#

if u want

versed knot
mystic elbow
#

yes u did wth

#

then u said 'go ras"??/

#

MY RAS IS +9

versed knot
#

I dun remember this convo at all

knotty kraken
#

imagine fighting a bot today

#

😔

mystic elbow
#

etw is fraudulent 😭

white valve
#

Question why a spiking CA flagging me

willow mural
#

just as the sky is blue

mystic elbow
#

"she's just better"

willow mural
#

and roosters crow at sunrise

#

elsword players will flag

hollow hound
willow mural
#

just a fact of life

buoyant folio
abstract yacht
#

yes?

buoyant folio
#

wow do u fflag pppl as CA

mystic elbow
#

bro i just lost 20%

#

😭

#

gz larry

buoyant folio
#

you after losing 20%

versed knot
mystic elbow
#

cuz this is where im typing

versed knot
#

Welp no further questions, your honor

twin pawn
mystic elbow
#

this add afk'd to try one shot me only for guild heal to happen

#

great ginseng

buoyant folio
#

LOL

#

that's so funny

#

😭

mystic elbow
#

bro sage almost won off of ONE CATCH because of the dmg

#

HP that low off of one catch mike

buoyant folio
#

average sage moment

#

Idek why he plays pvp when he just does it to one shot

#

lol

#

like you're not even playing the game at that point

#

😭

mystic elbow
#

bro took my hp with COMMANDS 😭

#

COMMANDSSSSSS

empty ore
#

Oh that was you on laby

mystic elbow
#

yea im playing on my scuffed laptop so its not great rn

buoyant folio
#

oh commands

#

still not much better

#

😭

#

dude's so overgeared he can take hits and punish you regardless

knotty kraken
#

at least u can beat him

empty ore
#

Ok so another thing I just noticed

#

Pvp stats in sparring are waaay off

#

Before coloring would only be shown like 1-2mil

lilac merlin
#

Cannot wait for the day CA is nerfed in pvp 😣

#

Even if I have to wait a millennia

buoyant folio
#

FR

mystic elbow
#

at least u know youll be waiting a millennia

lilac merlin
#

Sadly

#

Tired of the staying the whole match on the air and SA meta

twin pawn
#

im ngl i prefer fighting CA in 2s

#

in 1s its too much of a toss up with how aggressive that class can be

clever sigil
fiery lionBOT
#
benisputter has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

willow mural
#

oh

#

dont worry im not a punk

#

lucky part is thatt if i were to try im pretty sure id break my charging port even more

versed knot
#

Cant even "I would beat you if I was on my main"

buoyant folio
#

Anri is kinda funny to fight

#

sometimes they completely outplay me

#

sometimes they just

#

can't do anything

#

😭

#

My game

#

seriously

#

crashed

#

when I was winning

#

not even a connection crash too

#

😭

#

god I hate elsword

hollow hound
#

Should I jc my CE to CA for pvp? TPChuckleJustABard

buoyant folio
#

No.

mystic elbow
#

Go cu

empty ore
#

Go CS

warm hornet
buoyant folio
#

Yoo

#

I really had a random Noah whisper me salt for awhile yesterday night 😭 I later learned it was another average toxic player bc of their main

hollow hound
#

Nigh.

buoyant folio
#

Neigh.

cyan quail
#

Base Eve

kindred frost
#

Gonna make some game girl bath and at the with my Cheetos scented bath bomb

knotty kraken
#

and this is pvp related?

versed knot
#

It's instagram from the looks of it

buoyant folio
#

qiG

#

LOL

#

CHEETOS BATH BOMB IS CRAZY

noble pelican
#

true pvp-mains smell like Cheetos. Noted

#

also, how does one even capture "crunchy" in a bath bomb??

clever sigil
noble pelican
mystic elbow
#

@dull forum how dare u !

dull forum
#

its

#

the truth

mystic elbow
#

You’re literally king of els 1s bro

dull forum
#

🥶

mystic elbow
#

😭😭

dull forum
#

yea

#

but 1s is so 1 mess u die l0l

#

plus classes

#

like RV CA GS PR etc just pmuch have

#

6/4~almost perfect matchups

#

so pmuch its still 1catch u die lolz

#

:3

mystic elbow
#

Does that mean you’re king of wusses

twin pawn
#

yuh

dull forum
#

yuh

#

why u think i only do 1s for tourneys

#

:j

#

cuz i gotta keep the wussing to a minimum

buoyant folio
#

wuss min maxxing

#

god the fact that

#

specialization

#

is still annoying

#

even though it utilizes more resources 😭 so it's not spammy

empty ore
#

@graceful nexus Do you use regular or mod Lucky Chance?

buoyant folio
#

perma stuck on 50% to SS 😔

graceful nexus
empty ore
#

Mkay now for the kicker

#

Lead in or Merry Haha

graceful nexus
#

Debuff Removal sounds good on paper but the most noctorious debuff is Fog. So unless it cleanses it before the animation goes off (havent logged in to check) then its not useful to remove the slowdown.

#

So it would only be useful vs random stuff like Devi Bind or something.

#

Things that grab you but dont stop skill usage.

#

Meanwhile normal Lucky Chance increases dmg.

graceful nexus
#

Unmod Merry Haha has atleast a small purpose in lowering KD half the time.

#

Unmod Lead In would be kinda cool but the attack takes forever to come out and if you get hit it doesn't come out.

#

So its basically just Lucky Chance but worse.

#

Im stuck playing ffxiv rn.

buoyant folio
#

god I hate OZ™️

#

girl rlly pulled phantom breathing even though i was out of range and still got me

#

😔

#

suction nerf where

empty ore
#

Never go below plat when getting PB'd

mystic elbow
#

how come ppl wil complain about their partner or who theyre fighting in 2s n just not ask to swap ? 👁️

versed knot
#

Sounds like a ppl that will complain about the spouse but dont wanna divorce

mystic elbow
#

yeaaa basically

noble pelican
#

So, I understand you

mystic elbow
twin pawn
#

she says with 85 tenacities insane command damage and a strength that chunks like a brave

knotty kraken
#

this is the best synergy that i can make rn

mystic elbow
#

player is not a real person

#

😭

buoyant folio
#

god I really love CA's design but CA pvp mains are insufferable

mystic elbow
#

SO TRUE

#

i never met someone who thinks its better to have a bravery nuke

buoyant folio
#

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

twin pawn
#

lorno

buoyant folio
#

wynotr

willow mural
oblique sundial
#

best nuke is active nuke

empty ore
#

Sob

#

my white box doesnt 1 shot with 600k damage.

buoyant folio
#

LOOOOOL

willow mural
#

Wth Arnold still play this game

#

They nerfed Aisha btw

empty ore
#

The AeS's are trying to make mod lightning shower work

#

its not going well

mystic elbow
#

Cog

willow mural
#

Good

#

No more lightning shower

mystic elbow
empty ore
#

Thats geared white box

#

But like

#

thats just the thing

#

CA has great command damage a good neutral and heals.

#

Cant 1 shot at full hp? Fine

#

2 catches and a white box. ez pz

abstract yacht
hollow hound
#

She does not need a nuke.

#

She IS the nuke.

mystic elbow
#

They keep saying it too 💀

#

As this player can carry three high dmg strength skills on the bar

dull forum
#

@mystic elbow cass

#

do u think unbroken belief is a broken button

mystic elbow
#

Yes

#

Though just about everything that char has is egregious

abstract yacht
#

which ig it makes sense, it doesn't leave a field but it pretty much plays out similarly for a skill that costs half of Belief

hollow hound
#

AD. 💀

oblique sundial
#

game is just depressing

dull forum
#

if u lpay well enough u shouldnt really need cascade

#

u have magnolia/vanishing point

#

plus spear head

#

unbroken gives u a chunk of health

#

at anytime when ur low

#

ive healed ppl for 30% hp

#

l0l

celest ore
dull forum
#

did they

#

buff ke this patch

#

why am i doing so much dmg

abstract yacht
#

he always did

#

in fact the PvP patch should've nerfed his dest cmd dmg increase from 100% to 30%

willow mural
#

Bro they didn't even need the obvious issues like revenant or adrestia they don't care

buoyant folio
#

fr

dull forum
#

:(

cyan quail
#

Womp womp

hollow hound
#

In 1vs1, which classes a CE would likely lose to?

dull forum
#

All reds

#

Kappa

hollow hound
#

Redheads are really agressive.

heavy spear
#

does AD still use ZZX as her main damage command?

twin pawn
#

she can but she mostly just dives at you in stoic

heavy spear
#

why does she get everything tho. i chose her because i like having a triple jump but all that crazy other stuff she has i can live without

twin pawn
#

thats CA in a nutshell

heavy spear
#

oh goodie, it still has stoic 🙄

twin pawn
#

only missing a free iron body and dive button

dull forum
#

Dash zxxx has high KD but does good DMG

#

Mine does about 30k a swing on the xa

#

Xs

lavish socket
#

lol

stable nymph
#

so i see in the tournament rules that nearly everything is enabled/allowed

#

but like

#

why are wedding skills prohibited

mystic elbow
#

is that a real question

lavish socket
#

probly just cuz of old habits die hard

#

idk

#

wedding skill not even that great....

#

ask GM raiden if ur wondering

stable nymph
#

it's also strange that there is no mention of whether mounts are allowed

lavish socket
#

...

#

dude

mystic elbow
#

oh youre just trolling

#

alr