There was a CE running fire 4 and 30% mpr who did exactly that
#pvp
warm hornet
if it's that terrifying, where's a Star rank CE?
warm hornet
when?
mystic elbow
And Noir gets star on their CE too
A while back but nothing about CE has changed since then
warm hornet
hmm... whatever then.
mystic elbow
Nah dont be like that
If CE was so bad you wouldnt be able to get even SSS on her
Shes decent. And youre good at her which = SSS
warm hornet
I only made it into SSS because i had a CE mirror match.
and she used summons.
and i didn't.
mystic elbow
I mean u won it so who cares
Better CE won
I could say “I didnt get SSS because I had a mirror match “
N that would still just mean the better Shakti won
warm hornet
fine, fine....
but whatever, i got into SSS with "somewhat" of a meme build and always been riding for style points.
XD
mystic elbow
The up side 
abstract yacht
Doesnt CEs have mod genocide ripper for nuking?
I mean its mbable but also very fast
by the time it's mb'd target shouldve taken at least 75% of its dmg
no?
also heaven fist kinda hurts
warm hornet
my gear and gimmick is catered for minimizing my disadvantage and maximize my retaliation.
warm hornet
if it was me: throw it anyways.
abstract yacht
I dont think anyone wants to pre mb a CEs when summons can trigger it
warm hornet
but most of my fights, i don't have the luxury to burn 300mp.
mystic elbow
Uh CE isnt supposed to use summons
warm hornet
I dont think anyone wants to pre mb a CEs when summons can trigger it
i'll mana break from ophelia, if it's oberon or nasod scout, i don't care.
mystic elbow
love a CE that uses summons
warm hornet
^
too
abstract yacht
Uh CE isnt supposed to use summons
every CEs I fight summon at the vry least Sentry
never I seen a CEs go without a summon
warm hornet
a skilled elboy and elesis can get around CE's summons no problem.
warm hornet
CE gets nothing rly out of using them
it's something, it's just very polarizing.
mystic elbow
It would be one thing if she could just get rid of them like NL does hers
I dont think the something outweighs the negatives
warm hornet
^
mystic elbow
Feeding, victim to splash dmg, telling your opponent where youre at
Heavy on the feeding and victim to splash dmg
warm hornet
if i fight a Tempet Burster with summons, She's get a full skill refund or more from Grenade launcher alone.
i think it's simular to ashia's chain fireball as well.
that skill gives a fair mana back from attacking.
abstract yacht
assuming you let her get you down to the ground
considering lock on can lock on the summon instead
TB air play isnt exactly
great
warm hornet
the problem is getting into TB in the first place as CE.
mystic elbow
Ngl TB even as Shakti
warm hornet
but once you touch her, it's your win most of the time.
because TB's disadvantege is somewhat just as bad or Worst than CE.
warm hornet
TB is just somewhat a Polerizing character on itself and can snowball really hard.
mystic elbow
Here we go
lavish socket
I'll say she more a balance type of broken
abstract yacht
to me TB cannot do anything outside of >>XX super armor and lock-on
warm hornet
the thing is, if you catch a TB (assuming twice) you can just trap her.
abstract yacht
cuz all of her other tools are awful to chase or catch
evrything is too linear on her
well maybe mod... uh
I forgot the trans tena skill
that should have boom but other than that her tools feel limited
cuz most of her skills are all like...
the same
warm hornet
XD
mystic elbow
does this char not clock mp beginning match
warm hornet
personaly, i have no problem of fighting TB or pyro in general.
warm hornet
she has no stun*.
mystic elbow
Wow thats 10 seconds where shes gaining more mp than me for doing nothing
abstract yacht
and she has to wait 20s to clock mp again
mystic elbow
Does she not have several nukes
abstract yacht
cuz 10s regen but 20s overstrike.
warm hornet
and she get no actives for clocking in mana
lavish socket
and she has to wait 20s to clock mp again
u mean the other 10s
mystic elbow
Yea thats 10 seconds where shes sitll gaining more mp than me n doesn’t actually have to interact with me at all
abstract yacht
yeah a lot of her actives are actually good but if u clock mp
bye bye actives
mystic elbow
Now from the standpoint of like
RV
Yea TB isnt crazy cuz RV is
But from the standpoint of Shakti shes pretty crazy to me
abstract yacht
TB doesnt have great mobility though
consiiddering all classes in existence she can be contested if she tries to run away
unlike AeS who can legitimately just obten and keep charging even more mana
lavish socket
Yea TB isnt crazy cuz RV is
thx u I'll play my non-meta TB that has 45~60K cmd dmg
mystic elbow
😐
abstract yacht
TB dmg is great but a lot of her options are very lacking to do as much for it
mystic elbow
From my standpoint
Shes crazy
From the standpoint of someone who plays a better character (RV,CA,GS) she isnt bc theyre literal godtiers
warm hornet
if you play Code Antithesis, you won't see TB that crazy.
mystic elbow
Do we see what im saying now
Exactly
AeS isnt going to find her crazy either
Another godtier
abstract yacht
like again if you get to force her to mana break
that is 3 clocking cycles you made her waste which equals to a minute
her clocking is not very huge unlike others
and with lack of mobility it makes it worse to try clock it out
lavish socket
BIG WORD IF
mystic elbow
lavish socket
HMMM.....
warm hornet
what do you mean if!?!??! time your Super armor, close the gap.
lavish socket
lol
mystic elbow
Ew
warm hornet
best thing TB can stop you is Extruder or an short SA burst.
abstract yacht
she cant fly
she can only dive
her double jump is jank
Aisha can tp away instantly and PR can just fly her way out
others who can clock have better tools to make the clocking work
for TB you kinda... either waste that mana back into spamming >>XX or do your best running
lavish socket
also why would u even count that 3 mp per sec
lavish socket
grenade launcher gives u way more
abstract yacht
if u decide to >>XX spam then all that mp gained goes down the drain
cuz cannon costs about as much as that regen
warm hornet
but no actives...
lavish socket
Of the match
touche
abstract yacht
30 mp that she cant use for anything...
lavish socket
if u decide to >>XX spam then all that mp gained goes down the drain
cuz cannon ...
really....I never had that problem?????
mystic elbow
For those 20 seconds if she chose not to
abstract yacht
during those 30s first of the match she is pretty much a command only character
She cant use actives
and not enough mp for specials still
30 more mp
sure
but until the next Overstrike cycle she has no better ground than yiu
in fact since she cant use her actives she's even lower than u
she cant use X commands either if she rly wants to save that manna cuz her bullet commands cost about the samee as the regen
warm hornet
(if TB misses)
abstract yacht
using the cmd just means the mp she saved goes down the drain
mystic elbow
Omg she doesnt even need to
Yall act like matches are 100 seconds
She doesnt need to interact AT ALL
lavish socket
She doesnt need to interact AT ALL
thx u
mystic elbow
Stop tagging me youre annoying
abstract yacht
yes
and I argued you before her running play isnt great
lavish socket
I love when they dont go after me
warm hornet
Yall act like matches are 100 seconds
because everyone made it a 100 seconds or less.
mystic elbow
Atp im not even talking to u cuz u add nothing
mystic elbow
yes
and I argued you before her running play isnt great
And my chasing isn’t great either
abstract yacht
she doesnt need to interact but her running away is not actually that great
she's easy to catch when she's just running away
fiery lionBOT
pyro3119 has been warned
lavish socket
ahh\
mystic elbow
Smoked.
abstract yacht
her movement is awful
lavish socket
whatevevr
abstract yacht
she doesnt even have super armor on her dive
abstract yacht
Her mobility doesnt really help her clock
She can clock but she has to work a lot to make it worth because her mobility doesnt work well with clocking
warm hornet
everytime i fight pyro, it's ether i never get to do a proper catch or i catch him and he struggle to get out of my grasp.
lavish socket
Her mobility doesnt really help her clock
She can clock but she has to work a l...
sound like a skill issue
warm hornet
sound like a skill issue
please explain.
mystic elbow
Hm ic. Atp imma need to observe the char more or just play her cuz what u say n my experience arent lining up
lavish socket
she has three jump w booster cannon
warm hornet
she has three jump w booster cannon
that is, if you're not in overstrike.
lavish socket
yea
mystic elbow
Good for you.
lavish socket
lol
mystic elbow
She also comes with a freeze, several nukes and lock on that costs 70 mp with 30% mpr
lavish socket
Hyper acc
abstract yacht
like
okay
you are looking at it from a Shakti POV
fair enough
but consider the roster as a whole
more than half the cast can deal with her clocking even if we take down like, 4th paths out of the way
mystic elbow
Once she gets going she gets going
lavish socket
everyone has that
mystic elbow
like
okay
you are looking at it from a Shakti POV
fair enough
but consider the r...
Idc about the roster
Especially not godtiers
Theyre godtiers for a reason
warm hornet
She also comes with a freeze, several nukes and lock on that costs 70 mp with 30...
the nukes becomes non-existence in skill trades.
mystic elbow
They struggle against no one and make every char seem doodoo water
lavish socket
Theyre godtiers for a reason
thx u like why are comparing against broken character
mystic elbow
Thats why theyre godtiers n shouldnt even be used in points
mystic elbow
thx u like why are comparing against broken character
Stop tagging me youre annoying.
warm hornet
They struggle against no one and make every char seem doodoo water
if you kiss a TB, just become glue.
abstract yacht
a cata can deal with her just fine and she aint got like
godtier tools
yeah she got an active nuke but thats irrelevant in terms of chasing and neutral
mystic elbow
I dont think its irrelevant n matches arent just neutral
But Cata is a fair comparison
Cuz shes good but not unbeatable good
But Cata basically wins the match after one catch
Regardless bc she gets her nuke so fast
Even if u esc skill u will prob still get hit with her active
Arnold did bring up some good points about Cata tht I never thought about
Til recently
Cuz no one plays her
warm hornet
i'd say first path Luciels neutral is just as good/bad as CE, but can snowball pretty hard.
mystic elbow
Yes her neutral is very good imo
N she in general just has rly good skills
N can use her 2nd nuke at 200mp with mpr
warm hornet
go play the first path Luciel. her best commands in neutral is just >>^ ZZX
mystic elbow
All she needs rly
warm hornet
everying else is just risk or a hard read.
abstract yacht
Thats kinda my thing
if she can deal with a running TB then I dont think I can consider TB OP on that match
especially if CT can kill quick
that just means TB is inferior
like on the context of a running TB, one that decides to avoid interaction and not press X commands to save up the mana
any aisha can stall her out better so can renas
IM surprisingly pressure her well especially when u consider IM has faster speed and better super armor cmds
Chung is Chung
Laby is Laby
Any eve can also fight a running TB especially CS
if m o s t classes
not even accounting for 4ths
can deal with her trying to stall
then I cannot personally see the class as OP because of the stalling... if a lot of them can chase her down
mystic elbow
I think shes broken n not a lot is gonna change that
But keep in mind
Every single class
In the game
Has smth broken about them
Even OM
She may not be a godtier or even a super hightier character
warm hornet
Has smth broken about them
then it just comes down to who's broken stuff is even more broken.
mystic elbow
Exactly. But to say that
Bc of her neutral shes not is just weird to me
Cuz then Surya wouldnt be broken even tho she can literally snowball at 30mp
Less than actually
OM wouldnt be broken even tho he casually nukes u 800k
And BL wouldnt have been broken (prenerf)
Just cuz his neutral isnt crazy
warm hornet
OM neutral is somewhat worst than CE's.
mystic elbow
Its a lot worse
In like
Every single way
That char has NO super armor cept that one active
but the fact of the matter is
Once these characters
Get going
Theyre winning
Once TB has mana shes winning the match
Idk about OM necessarily cuz his community makes sum questionable choices
She is broken, the character even if it has backlash gets 30 mp round start which means she already gets to mb or use esc quicker than I would
She has a freeze that even does a little bit of dmg
Several nukes
N no matter how much pyro wants to downplay it
Lock on is a good skill
Especially for whats 70 mp with mpr
It forces me and rly most characters to get rid of resources just to get away from it
warm hornet
pick your poison, Minerva or Tempest Burster?
mystic elbow
She has rose mp gain which is innately good
Both of them are just as bad for Shakti so it rly doesnt matter
warm hornet
i rather fight Tempest Burster than Minerva.
warm hornet
i'd fight CU.
mystic elbow
Just because youd rather fight CU
Doesnt make her not broken
CU is heavily under represented but shes broken as hell
warm hornet
i chose not CA because i have to play perfectly to somwhat punish her.
warm hornet
CU's Disadvantage is just as bad as CE or TB.
if you have a stun, she has one less option in neutral.
warm hornet
if it's laby, don't bother doing >>^XZ if laby is flying.
mystic elbow
Queens throne legit gets rid of her KD on commands that will 1. DO DMG 2. NOT FEED 3. GIVE HER ALL THE MP IN THE WORLD
she also just doesnt ever seem to be out of mana
warm hornet
her electron ball can even go past 2 meters.
warm hornet
CU neutral is better than CE, but it's not unstoppable like CA.
CU can snow ball better than CE, but CA naturally does.
dusk dock
Btw congrats on SSS, AYSSSplayer
warm hornet
Btw congrats on SSS, AYSSSplayer
thanks.
dusk dock
I remember when you were just an AYSSPlayer
warm hornet
:v
dusk dock
Oh how time flies
mystic elbow
Yes but CU is still very broken
Even if u prefer fighting her
Look at more than just neutral
CU has a crazy kit
N so does TB
warm hornet
CU has a crazy kit
go tell that to a CU main.
mystic elbow
Pyro just brainwashed yall just like how RaS players brainwashed the entire community
One thing you’ll realize
Is there is very little ppl in this game
That realize their char is broken
But im sure theres good CUs that will agree
dusk dock
Wait hold on
dusk dock
Can't any class reach SSS
mystic elbow
Yea realistically
warm hornet
but others just do it a lot easier.
dusk dock
I did SSS on Magical Adds. My goal is to do it on the Phsyical Adds now.
abstract yacht
I mean you can SSS with everyone, you just pray you don't keep encountering the same RV over and over 🛌
mystic elbow
Or can clock u out
dusk dock
RV slander goes crazy
dusk dock
Omg same
mystic elbow
I hate laggy RVs
dusk dock
The one move they can use in the air
warm hornet
like i said before, i only got SSS because i got into a CE mirror match.
mystic elbow
Any RV with delay should cut off their fingers n let their dogs play
Im sure the dog will still win
dusk dock
like i said before, i only got SSS because i got into a CE mirror match.
Sonic versus Shadow type beat
Pls tell me you got the vid
warm hornet
i've exploited their weakness as i show none.
dusk dock
PLEASE
warm hornet
Pls tell me you got the vid
i forgot to record it.
dusk dock
OTL
warm hornet
the moment i got SSS
dusk dock
You were locked in
warm hornet
XD
dusk dock
First time getting SSS?
warm hornet
2nd time.
dusk dock
Ong same
I was MPx at the time
They just keep deranking
😭
When I lock in, I can get 60%+ ez
Its just that my class shines more in 2s
And i dont wanna do allat
mystic elbow
I want to do 2s
warm hornet
then don't.
mystic elbow
Yea all she does is feed in 2s
abstract yacht
I wanna do 2s
but 2s just feels more like a 1v3 
either my partner is a deadweight or I'm the deadweight
so it's 1v3 one way or another
mystic elbow
Ive heard thats usually how it is
Til u reach higher ranks
But it does make u better at the game
dusk dock
Nah like
😭
I feel like I'm in the zone while my teammate is fighting for their life
I'm not at the level to worry about others yet
dusk dock
Real
warm hornet
if i'm in 2s, don't bother saving me.
warm hornet
because they'll do their best to conserve mana and not expect me to live.
mystic elbow
N just wait til padna either KDs or mbs then u can get a catch
dusk dock
Or that one time they literally stood still at the start of the match to feed their awk nukes
^this was my breaking point btw
mystic elbow
If i ever get genuinely interested in playing the game again
Id probably be done with 1s
warm hornet
ones are always fun for me.
mystic elbow
I get bored fighting the same person
Over n over
Even if im winning
If I wanted to do that
Id spar
mystic elbow
Sure after jc
Then I can go back to my Shakti
After
A year
Of not being Shakti on my main
abstract yacht
"Man sure is good to play DoM and experiment that Plodia skill"
KoG: what Plodia?
warm hornet
mystic elbow
Id love to see DoM as a godtier
warm hornet
this from yesterday.
warm hornet
it's over 200mb
warm hornet
funny thing, this CE is a fan of mine apparently.
hollow hound
like i said before, i only got SSS because i got into a CE mirror match.
Riseon Pride.
empty ore
I was told to not save anyone who isnt worth saving
You really shouldnt excessive saving is bad just because you are expending resources to save them
Sometimes you need to finish off the guy you've been comboing
warm hornet
You really shouldnt excessive saving is bad just because you are expending resou...
it's only bad if it fails or becomes a trade.
empty ore
Imagine if you're trying to save your opponent from a redhead
warm hornet
me: i'll try saving you anyways.
empty ore
ok hes gonna pop stoic and continue on his merry way
mystic elbow
Now I wasted however much mp to either get caught, wasted mp just for them to get caught 2 seconds later or ^
empty ore
You gotta make these ppl feel pressure.
Your teammate can break and get some distance.
celest ore
some of you getting to sss, some of you dropping out of the season early,
i'm more in the "get to 50%, realize its not happening and switch characters" gang
heavy spear
dear god same
mystic elbow
Im the “get bored, switch characters” gang
heavy spear
what holds cata back from being truly godtier? or are they actually godtier and people just dont know yet
warm hornet
i'm the "refuse to job change" gang. (and became a CE specialist for fun)
empty ore
Thats why im playin laby rn
dusk dock
Me when the mind is over
mystic elbow
Cata is still losing to GS, RV, PR
empty ore
He's got that good stoic normal, but he still gotta work for his catches
Plus he has no infinite.
Well
i should say no easy one.
heavy spear
oh, right
warm hornet
same with CE.
heavy spear
imagine if lu ^x reduced kd :(
mystic elbow
Imagine if Lu vx had hitbox 😔
celest ore
Pyro just brainwashed yall just like how RaS players brainwashed the entire comm...
this that rose that killed me with 7 x commands oh hell nah
empty ore
cause the claw normal does go on forever. just ya know, ya need to ambush too
mystic elbow
Not u scrolling up
celest ore
😭
mystic elbow
I do that too tho
empty ore
Pyro just brainwashed yall just like how RaS players brainwashed the entire comm...
Ya know lets talk about this
mystic elbow
🤝
celest ore
tb is another one of those characters man
i would absolutely hate her if there were more than 2 of them
heavy spear
i think i've only ever faced like. one TB and therefore i know next to nothing about what she does
mystic elbow
Quannix youre now my 5th favorite player in the game
celest ore
lets gooo
hollow hound
I want to practice some pvp.
mystic elbow
Do et
hollow hound
They are CS now. :0
warm hornet
wow, Hime is.
hollow hound
Ye.
abstract yacht
see? 💀 CEs players still dropping Sentry to these days
warm hornet
because it's cheap and easy to skill chain with mega electron ball.
empty ore
I'd love to see a solid meb stacking CeS
hollow hound
I'd love to see a solid meb stacking CeS
You got it right here.
hollow hound
because it's cheap and easy to skill chain with mega electron ball.
Meet AYS.
mystic elbow
Im kinda surprised I havent seen anyone cmd dmg stack on CA
cyan quail
like i said before, i only got SSS because i got into a CE mirror match.
You need to drop lightning chain and Rekindled, the MP feed is too agregious in 1v1 where resources mean everything
If I could capitalize on it on my AV with 20% MPR I can't imagine a DPS char with more MPR
Aside from that u were doing good, it's those two things holding u back the most
mystic elbow
morganlafei
Crazy player
empty ore
At one point I hated lightning chain so much i wanted to make a video dunking on it.
Its not good
its a feed
dull forum
LC is just wak
cyan quail
I can somewhat understand it for some characters, even if I personally disagree with it as a whole, but CEs has multihits and Core so it all adds up
Also if you ever Q past 3 am everyone has it equipped and I believe it's pretty self explanatory why
abstract yacht
the amounts of time I reacted to a random hit and press awk to confirm the catch but Lightning Chain went and remove the delay 💀 both against me and against the opponent
its just that bad
buoyant folio
Ppl in arena gonna hate me fr
Yo
😭
who is Morales
their connection is so bad please
I have never seen someone lag this hard until now
and I thought the aussies were bad
nvm it seems like a very odd situation between the both of us
dusk dock
Sparring got boring so I placed a challenge on myself. Get SS rank with just this gear:
actually hold on
the wep is for DoM
Much better.
buoyant folio
I'm
fr
trolling derankers that have gear and revive title rn 😭
why derank if you're going to make it slow for yourself
dusk dock
Updated.
I'll use the first set fo A-S and then use Berthe wep when I'm trying to get SS
hollow hound
Using summons in pvp as CE is not a good idea. There are some who take the risk bringing Riseon Pride to oneshot.
dusk dock
me when code yellow splash dmg
noble pelican
I'll use the first set fo A-S and then use Berthe wep when I'm trying to get SS
I wish you luck with your challenge!
dusk dock
I wish you luck with your challenge!
tyty
clever sigil
Using summons in pvp as CE is not a good idea. There are some who take the risk ...
imo, Summons are scary.
main problem is if you're taking excess chip damage and you're not nuking, but if you got a heavy hitting skill, you're solid, just the matter of the cycle continuing
Cycle: Trades -> Summons -> Get mp from them while taking chip damage -> Nuke -> Summoner MB's -> Repeat.
main thing is how to stop summoners from getting to that point to begin with, mainly if you're not doing giga Damage,
and this isn't limited to CE, you got PO, NL(only regard is bibii with the DoT being heavy)
forgot to preface: average to uneraverage melee user perspective.
clever sigil
fight looked fire as-f.
would call it: The Duality of the CE enjoyer:
willow mural
CLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
dusk dock
Desperate
NEFFEX
clever sigil
when the song drops, but it buffs your opponent's swagger(Colorized):
also keep on pushing mang
dusk dock
when the song drops, but it buffs your opponent's swagger(Colorized):
me when the
ty
man
RV sure is a lag friendly class
clever sigil
gg man
warm hornet
mission complete.
style points on @clever sigil
clever sigil
ya did the work, I'm just out-brained o/
clever sigil
that was a TP. you're good
funny, the TP was good, but I guess he's not in the greatest mood.
buoyant folio
I spent all day using a horrible mana build 😭
I stopped since it was unironically destroying my rank
I don't do enough damage wheeze
hollow hound
"All day".
buoyant folio
okay
part of a day
MY BAD Sir Specificius the First of the Northern European Seas
hollow hound
Um, actually...
buoyant folio
hollow hound
That looks like a Dark Souls boss name, lol.
clever sigil
also im just ain't good against em atm, about to sucumb to the Sonic slash, ngl
buoyant folio
Imo Aisha in general is just
weird to fight against
Rose feels like she has auto-aim is2g with the angles she shoots from though
empty ore
hot take: AeS is tougher to fight than CE and PO combined.
Thats because Aisha requires you to have a constant level of aggressive play towards her. Lest she stand still and get mp.
clever sigil
Thats because Aisha requires you to have a constant level of aggressive play tow...
call me smooth brain, but aggro on aisha (AeS ) is just iffy, bit hard to contest her neutral without a sonic slash.
which...is what I want to avoid relying on.
empty ore
If you're FB you dont have a lot of stoic
So sonic slash as a panic button is fine.
You just need that one good catch
esp early game if you want to ensure your victory
But thats iffy
because it requires you to play around a character whos whole objective is to make you come to her.
It doesnt help that Aes has 3 SA commands that are easy to execute.
XZ (rocks) >>ZX and >>ZZX
If you feel a LS is coming tho jump
because you can SS outta that once its done lol
Best thing I can say is
An Aisha thats moving, isnt charging.
heavy spear
why does MN get armor on her dive
dusk dock
Why is OM's radio knife so useless?
oblique sundial
Honestly your best bet vs aes is just alt tab
Watch a YouTube video or something while you wait for her to kill you
And then check if they're out of queue before you queue again
clever sigil
sounds like my good o'l saturday morning.
. But on a serious note, and I say this out of respect, you can do better than those three lines.
I'll drink the copium later, give me ideas.
oblique sundial
I'm saying this as an aes player
It's such a lopsided matchup you might as well just afk
clever sigil
Even better that you are, That means that there's got to be some person whose your Achillies heel, or has given you trouble before.
buoyant folio
4th rena makes me toxic
Legit the most disrespectful variant of rena lmao
Stink Ink!!!
clever sigil
btw, Lerne, Was i lagging at all during our fights? or nah?
oblique sundial
I mean gl ig
I don't really queue on this character anymore, it gets kind of boring to autowin matches
clever sigil
also @empty ore thanks for the words.
heavy spear
for me aes is a race against time before they get lightning bolt
it's not a very long race against time.
cyan quail
It's not even a race when they have both Obten and Clock matchstart
heavy spear
that too
mystic elbow
A race where AeS starts at the finish line
oblique sundial
Aes has round start booms and tele
heavy spear
once they get that giant constant stunning orb it's all over
willow mural
they should put a cooldown on meditation before the round starts
oblique sundial
But then she's still passively gaining what
3 mp a second while moving?
And then she stands still for 10
willow mural
better than the bajillion she earns to begin with
oblique sundial
Ig
And then unless you have a double jump she can just circle camp unless you're on one of like two tiny maps
And if you do have a double jump you still have to worry about >>xz, chain fireball, circle, etc
Cringe character
clever sigil
chain is somewhat bearable.
Getting over the lighting shower -> Lightning Ball is where the madness slaps.(or just arises)
buoyant folio
btw, Lerne, Was i lagging at all during our fights? or nah?
Nah
out of a lot of people I've fought today
You've had the most stable connection
lots of people been just
attacking out of my attacks 💀
and it's just driving me crazy
clever sigil
all i can consider is Gap closing when possible(Power assault o'l reliable, (Flash when possible),Mod HSS), keeping away when AeS got the stoic, just need more time, and less Tekken playing.
Lerne, Happens, inevitable shinenigans of the NA servers.
heavy spear
s queue is dead and i was about to ask if anyone fights me on my MN to let me know if i'm lagging
oh btw could i get that pvp title tier list if anyone has it?
mystic elbow
Freed Shadow > GoE ≈ Eclipse
rich quail
Steel Wall title is probably on the high end, too. Res Shred + Rez + heals seems pretty great.
empty ore
Hm wait, i was wrong on one thing
Forgot that berthe title is basically a free reset.
Double shadow bolt flaskbacks
heavy spear
oh yikes, best i have on that list is resistant to destiny
rich quail
Shadow's Descent can be gotten pretty quickly, at least.
heavy spear
well i think i'm lagging anyway so might as well get it
rich quail
yes join me here on the side of res shred builds
empty ore
Use that phoru title that gives 15% title count
heavy spear
that counts towards shadow's descent?!
abstract yacht
hot take: AeS is tougher to fight than CE and PO combined.
thats no hot take
AeS is legitimately just aa to fight with.
free mana, good clocking tools, boom tenacities, mega sized stunning skills
little mp feeding relative to her own gain
she just sucks at actively interacting vs others which just further push players to just play cower.
heavy spear
ok well that's shadow's descent done, i'll likely have eclipse by tomorrow
i almost wish that viper shot had SA but at the same time i'm alright with the amount of SA MN already has
i dont feel quite comfortable using it raw in neutral and tbh i find myself not using it much at all
mystic elbow
I dont like eclipse personally cuz yea it does save u from dmg sometimes
The res is useless
N it feeds
So id rather just not use it 😭
heavy spear
i'd imagine i won't get much use out of it for pve either and i should just stick with sotc until i get something better
empty ore
N it feeds
This is why I should buckle down and farm 17-5
Cause I dislike those swords.
celest ore
https://i.imgur.com/NKuBniH.png
you forgot dancing flame weapon for lmao tier
abstract yacht
https://i.imgur.com/NKuBniH.png
remember when Curse of Chaos was meta? look how much it has fallen
mystic elbow
This is why I should buckle down and farm 17-5
🤝
mystic elbow
It's a bit more viable for Eve.
Eh I disagree just cuz eve already has a lot of commands that feed a lot
I prefer goe on every char
noble pelican
Eclipse makes LA’s res passive actually work in PvP
🫠
I don’t PVE enough to even dream of other res passives
cyan quail
Unless you're playing a ress character, GoE is actually preferred over even Freed Shadow in 1v1
The procs are nice, but it's value comes in the MP on break, which definitely adds up
Considering how feedy Eclipse is, I'd say it's the worst of the three but still top 2 for 2v2
oblique sundial
doesnt the buff from freed shadow last an extra like 10 seconds or smth
kindred frost
darn is que dead?
abstract yacht
Unless you're playing a ress character, GoE is actually preferred over even Free...
GoE and FS being a competition on whether do you want 99% dmg reduction or a 1/10 mp refund on mana break
kindred frost
bro im about to throw my keyboard off my balcony if it doesnt INPUT DASH
abstract yacht
keyboards can also have skill issues 🥹
dusk dock
knotty kraken
its really funny when an eve gets salty at me for camping over them with galaxy after a rez title proc
willow mural
not the flag
hollow hound
Why the flag? LOL.
These people I swear.
I like how they went directly to the skill.
You predicted well.
hollow hound
its really funny when an eve gets salty at me for camping over them with galaxy ...
Tell me that is not a CA.
cyan quail
They were SSS last time I fought them.
They went into 2v2
It was a uh tough environment
hollow hound
Oh.
abstract yacht
Dekom: oh oops wrong button
Ara: here we gooooOOOOOOOO
Dekom: all planned
dusk dock
FOR REAL
IT WAS A MISPUT
This wasn't tho
100% intended
they got the payback
😭
abstract yacht
HOW IS THAT ENOUGH HP TO TAKE LIKE 20 TICKS OF UNDYING
YOUR HP BAR IS LITERALLY NOT VISIBLE
dusk dock
guild heal be like
We do a little bit of trolling
This is why I don't like rez titles
dusk dock
They bore me
I won the first match but the other three were lame.
Same approach and neutral
Nothing worthwhile
How stale can PvP be sometimes
hollow hound
Welp...
buoyant folio
I lost the first match against them
then won the next 5 😭
they only win if they can one shot you
But man Lithia is rlly painful to fight against
Add somewhat has a command to like
fiery lionBOT
.lerne has been warned
buoyant folio
Oh right
super armor through her stomp super armor command 💀 but it's so slow
xxzzz 😭
versed knot
Of all the things to complain about, why that
mystic elbow
i would've logged out
versed knot
esc skill kills are funny as hell
mystic elbow
if it makes u feel better im pretty sure Roses does dmg too
dusk dock
Of all the things to complain about, why that
I try to keep my complaints to a minimum
dusk dock
Didn't know that tbh
celest ore
if it makes u feel better im pretty sure Roses does dmg too
it does and i also killed somebody with it once
versed knot
Funny esc kills
mystic elbow
it does and i also killed somebody with it once
AS U SHOULD
🤝
its funny as long as it doesn't happen to me
mystic elbow
wth
versed knot
❤️
mystic elbow
stop wishing ill on me !
abstract yacht
Rose kinda funny cuz is the only damaging escape skill that actually doesnt hitstun
versed knot
No it's not ill will, it's funny will !1
mystic elbow
NO??
versed knot
Nah nah I can see it, we sitting on a porch, sipping coffee and thinking back at how an esc skill killed you
And lmao'd
mystic elbow
you're delulu
celest ore
its funny as long as it doesn't happen to me
real
dusk dock
I heard yall like infinites
cyan quail
Lithia's is objectively the worst escape skill in the game
It won't even get you out of hitstun half the time
But I agree, it dealing damage is pretty silly
oblique sundial
I heard yall like infinites
I was expecting to see you get juggled by the dia tbh
Kinda disappointed
oblique sundial
I don't think I have flagged in like years
hollow hound
Why can't they play chill and accept mistakes and learn from them.
Idk what is the thing with flagging, like, you are not better for doing it.
No matter if you win or not.
oblique sundial
See, ppl do worse when they're ticked off
me after spawncamping a dude for three minutes and then clicking avoid as teammate
willow mural
sometimes i flag on purpose cuz i have sausage fingers
hollow hound
And just because I WON 1 TIMEEE.
willow mural
on accident*
hollow hound
on accident*
That happened once and until this day I feel bad.
mystic elbow
i was test streaming and was fighting a CA player won
one of the watchers told me to flag her so naturally
i did
😌
willow mural
toxic
hollow carbon
we just gonna ignore that triple jump that fl just did
willow mural
what triple jump
hollow carbon
what triple jump
first clip
dusk dock
Huh
hollow carbon
she tripled jumped up to the plat
dusk dock
Lemme see this rq
hollow carbon
the what now
willow mural
double jump synergy
dusk dock
That's not triple
celest ore
thats just what it looks like when elesis circle double jumps yeah 💀
dusk dock
^z increases jump height
hollow carbon
😭 what is a synergy
dusk dock
In combo with the synergy
willow mural
if you have ke, fb, and es in your synergy, it will grant elboy raven and elgirl the ability to double jump
..............
.......you dont know what synergy is??????
hollow carbon
nope
hollow carbon
okay
willow mural
it should bring up your el search party collection
hollow carbon
yea
willow mural
on the top you should see a marker to switch to synergy
hollow carbon
yea
celest ore
double jump synergy users surprisingly rare tbh
willow mural
basically, synegy are additional stats the game lets you work with
combine multiple characters on your synergy page to recieve that benefit
for example, to recieve the first path synergy, you must have at least 3 characters who are first path
hollow carbon
how important is it
willow mural
game changing important
hollow carbon
how do i turn it on
willow mural
youll need to have a synergy ticket
200 ep points at ariel
we also get synergy tickets from the log in event
hollow carbon
😭 i got one for 15 days
willow mural
thatll do
the main thing with synergy is that you need to have those characters on your account
hollow carbon
i dont have KE😭
willow mural
and they have to either be at least 1st job, 3rd job, or master class to recieve that effect
all characters have 3 synergy effects
the first is always gonna be the path line effect. you just need to be 1st job for that.
the next effect you get at 3rd job, and the last you get at master class
hollow carbon
how do i get laby friends
willow mural
you need to have nisha at master class
willow mural
if you click on the synergy on the right side, itll show you who gives that effect
hollow carbon
do these stack with collection
willow mural
so clicking on labys friend will show nisha
yes
collection will only apply to those who are registered in your espc
hollow carbon
😭 i might actually found some motivation to xp farm
willow mural
and you can only get collection upon reaching lv 99 and being at least 1st job
synergy applies to JUST the character
hollow carbon
that SUCKS
willow mural
if you want synergy on both aisha and rena, youre gonna have to fork over 400 ep (40m ed)
hollow carbon
😭
oblique sundial
Synergies are for nerds who do math
willow mural
Cope and seethe.
mystic elbow
this guy is literally freezing in his own combo
oblique sundial
Just gorilla your way through the game
mystic elbow
😭
willow mural
Synergy is for nerds who want 32k more hp in pvp
hollow carbon
how game chaging is 25% master artifact xp increase
willow mural
It's better than 0
hollow carbon
😭 these slots look expensive
mystic elbow
if u get that + 50% exp from phoru event + 25% exp u can get from artifact stage 3
it'll prob make a big diff
hollow carbon
is their any form of xp increase events happening rn
willow mural
No
willow mural
Which is weird cuz last time they had a 2x boost
hollow carbon
if i farm trosh while doing masterclass material farming
that would be a good way to save hella time when doing collection
willow mural
Hey smart idea
willow mural
an
willow mural
(wow!)
mystic elbow
u get +10 foj for free
willow mural
richter
hollow carbon
this is my collection who would make a excellent trosh farmer
willow mural
twins picaro
hollow carbon
i have tp mc
mystic elbow
FP or DA i guess
hollow carbon
ikr im so lazy when it does to collection
dull forum
honestly
willow mural
es is there
willow mural
what?
hollow carbon
how yall doing
im doing alr hru
willow mural
stop being leze
dull forum
bros bored
i got cooked
hollow carbon
youre telling me you dont want to farm rigomor dungeons 25 times?
😭 who wants to do that
mystic elbow
wdym
dull forum
i got 2nd
versed knot
What are y'all chatting in pvp chat
willow mural
because we are pvpers
mystic elbow
free monies
versed knot
So true
hollow carbon
because we are pvpers
who want to sit an do 25 rigo dungeons 71x
willow mural
but i didnt built my litahia
dull forum
honestly i was shocked nobody signed up
willow mural
and im not about to get mopped on the flor with +11 soa or whatever
mystic elbow
n @hollow carbon devi, fp, da are probably your best choices
dull forum
honestyly like
mystic elbow
ngl im not shocked
mystic elbow
they're doing too many tournaments
they should've just waited til all her paths were out
hollow carbon
n <@895831263942946867> devi, fp, da are probably your best choices
ill prob do devi
mystic elbow
ummm FOR U YEA
hollow carbon
😭 when does this kc even get distributed
hollow carbon
they been giving away alot of kc lately
willow mural
yeah
im not complaining
i cant load up so this is great for me
but i dont want the headache of doing pvp
=3
hollow carbon
im hyped for 3rd path lithia
hollow carbon
im more of a GB gorilla style
I cant seem to find a good gbs in pvp
well gb in general
willow mural
We both sucked donkey dong so it's ok
dull forum
i won gb tourney
willow mural
hollow carbon
i won gb tourney
😭 how are you winning these tourneys
mystic elbow
did u
willow mural
My only issue with they tourneys is I gotta fund too mucj
willow mural
I gotta get hyper accel again
dull forum
have u seen the faker
dull forum
meme
hollow carbon
have u seen the faker
no
hollow carbon
😭 like how are you winning these tourneys
mystic elbow
just buy it
hollow carbon
arent you a elsword main
mystic elbow
cept fog obvi
willow mural
Bruh