pvp

[empty ore]

You're so silly NessA, dont you like being windblasted for 50% of your health?

[hollow hound]

Actually, I prefer being windblasted for 75% of my health.

[heavy spear]

somewhere in a distant corner, anemos weeps (and then sharp falls)

[sacred niche]

Remember when WS/AN does neat loops, combos, and resets and not ^^z (repeat) to kill in PvP?

[oblique sundial]

No, I remember them looping zz>zz

[heavy spear]

so do i :(

[sacred niche]

Oh right ^^z (repeat) my bad. kekw

[real viper]

I don't mind the wind blast 50%+ hp bar but plz do something with her awk

[oblique sundial]

Dem has a cute little stick thing that just eats homing attacks for some reason

[gentle trench]

Anyone who can be my afk dummy? >.<

[willow mural]

sure

[gentle trench]

😄

I have a spar room

Password is bennie

[willow mural]

ayyyy

[mystic elbow]

I have acquired salt

but I had to be CA to get it

[gentle trench]

xD

[hollow hound]

:0?

[mystic elbow]

hi

[real viper]

Isn't doing that would leave your opponent an open to counter back?

Unless you dive when your opponent is low on the ground which connect the stomp on the ground from the dive iirc

[willow mural]

yeah @gentle trench

0:03 i couldve skilled out

maybe if u used that one skill where he fires outta bost sides of the cannon before doing the combo again?

[gentle trench]

yeah i guess Im too slow and sloppy >.<

[real viper]

Not quite, your timing is

[gentle trench]

like here? ;3

[real viper]

The dive is too early

[gentle trench]

how about the shot that launches me?

[real viper]

This moment

You didn't re-catch

It created a small open

Kd on midair is different with hitstun in midair

[gentle trench]

on all of them or just that one?

[real viper]

All of them

[gentle trench]

gotcha

so my >>XX the >>X is on time but the 2nd X I have to wait a bit before pressing it?

[real viper]

Ye, you can try time your land to hit your opponent

It should launch her back up

[gentle trench]

Q___Q

this way was great because if I didnt catch my opponent wouldnt get KD

but that means she can escape?

[real viper]

Yes

[fiery lion]

undefeated1337 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mystic elbow]

for CC isnt it best to just do stomp combo

[gentle trench]

fug >.<

this one is best dps but corner only -yasu

[real viper]

He probably not familiar with it yet?

[gentle trench]

u mean ZZZZ >>^Xv?

[real viper]

Nah

He meant the loop stomp

[gentle trench]

that im not familiar with it?

[real viper]

By cannon jump then stomp, loop it

I think it's what he meant

[gentle trench]

yeah im rookie of the year xD

oh wait isnt that something positive about growth

guess Im just rookie

[gentle trench]

Xv repeat only?

[mystic elbow]

yea basically

[gentle trench]

or >>Xv ^v?

[mystic elbow]

no

[real viper]

https://youtu.be/pXfWy1v2URc

Similar to this

[gentle trench]

hmmm I guess >>Xv <>>Xv could work

[mystic elbow]

not similar its basically that

[real viper]

(I was testing random stuff back then)

[gentle trench]

oh its one of these where u launch them up super high

also trey u play CC? ;o

[real viper]

I mean, I remember other CC doing it more flowly (?) while mine feels more hasty

[real viper]

Yes, used to

[gentle trench]

pro

[real viper]

But JC due to pve content

[gentle trench]

awww

[mystic elbow]

yea it depends on

[real viper]

Will go back at some point

[mystic elbow]

character weight

and lag/delay

[gentle trench]

😄

what weight is lowe? elboy?

[mystic elbow]

idk

[gentle trench]

its a sick combo

[real viper]

Certain char feels heavier other which affect how high you launch them (base on my feeling)

[mystic elbow]

I don't think he shares a weight with anyone

[gentle trench]

kinda hard to visualize when to use attacks with eu lag and being a noob

I should try it

[mystic elbow]

Domo does it with AU lag so u should be fine

[gentle trench]

^^ pfew

whos domo?

[mystic elbow]

theyre DA now but they used to be CC

and b4 CC they were FP

[real viper]

My Chung also DA atm

Cuz pve content

o3o

[gentle trench]

understandable >.<

[real viper]

Cuz INT is usually lag/delay sensitive so I don't often get to do x-drop or that stomp stuffs

Risky of giving them a free escape

[gentle trench]

oh what would u do instead?

also booo ur not on solace? Q_Q

[real viper]

Sadly no

[gentle trench]

otonashi said its a good infinite but it lacks damage, its hard for ppl to MB tho

[mystic elbow]

Yea

Its fine that it lacks dmg bc

CC is a stupid good oki class

[real viper]

Unless you can let me borrow certain acc on Solace so I can visit there

[gentle trench]

oki?

[empty ore]

https://youtu.be/N5Y5ZpsEhvQ Also reminded of this

[fiery lion]

bigwoofles has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[real viper]

Hehe

[mystic elbow]

Recatching

[empty ore]

recatching after a wakeup

[real viper]

It's fine to be lack of dmg

As it's hard to time the mb for opponent

While you can continue gain mp if you can maintain the loop

[gentle trench]

insane

[real viper]

They can end up use more mp to break than they need

[gentle trench]

because of heavy stance or?

[mystic elbow]

No he has good skills

[gentle trench]

real

[gentle trench]

oh fair especially if they MB

I can do leap and guardians rage or something

mod burstwolf idk xD

[mystic elbow]

U can just mod landsmash in a lot of cases

Or scare chase

[gentle trench]

but since artillery nova deals so much damage now I feel like every skill i use is a bad investment Q_Q

oh right i gotta learn how to scared chase catch Q_Q

[real viper]

Ye he got plenty of tools to work around, it just depend on how you use them

[gentle trench]

anyone has a vid from that? >.<

[empty ore]

Nova can win you matches, but if you crutch on it too much it makes you predictable.

[gentle trench]

real

[real viper]

Use your >>X, your best command

[real viper]

Indeed

[gentle trench]

X to catch with scared chase? ;o

[real viper]

Rely on it too much will make you become more predictable

[gentle trench]

but they het blown so far away

[real viper]

Learn to predict where they will get launch and land

[gentle trench]

i usually can work around it by using obtenebration after awakening to aim but i do rely too much on it

plus using it at ben did only 30% of his HP

[mystic elbow]

Wait what

[gentle trench]

how do i get near them> just run?

[mystic elbow]

Pls dont use obten for that

[gentle trench]

xD

[mystic elbow]

Its a waste of an obten

[gentle trench]

i lack knowledge about my opponents still, so i cant really read them

[real viper]

Just move around, observe their movement

[gentle trench]

no i mean after scared chase

[real viper]

You can try it yourself in training

Try with Lowe

Should be able to tell by yourself

[gentle trench]

I cant make it in time

[real viper]

Just try launch Lowe then angle your scare chase to make them fly in the direction you want

[gentle trench]

i dont see how

[real viper]

I'm not onl to showcase you

[gentle trench]

oh like ZZZZ ScaredChase > mod land smash

but to ''oki'' how can i scare chase

[real viper]

Use >>X for cheap catch instead of land smash

Not worth to use mp on

[gentle trench]

oh cool that worked

but can I get a catch using scared chase?

[real viper]

Like I said, try with Lowe

[gentle trench]

or is it only good after a catch?

[real viper]

You'll see what I mean

[gentle trench]

ZZZZ SC >>^X worked

but how do I get a catch with SC

or isnt that a thing?

[real viper]

It's situational

I often use when I see them above

[gentle trench]

ah I see so they are above so u SC and it goes like C then u >>^X and maybe guard on that platform?

[real viper]

That can do

Or you can >>X for easy catch from the scare chase

Cuz the cannon blow hitbox is wide

Similar to guard

[gentle trench]

kinda like this fail?

ah so >>X land <<x

and after <<X how do i catch? just Z i guess?

[real viper]

In that case, you can chain with burst wolf

[gentle trench]

oh smart one

[real viper]

There are so many cases that I can't list out

[gentle trench]

gotcha understandable >.<

ty for this one tho!

😄

[real viper]

Guard too early

[gentle trench]

that guard missed hard and I messed up the combo xD

haha yeah

[real viper]

Don't get hasty with combo

[gentle trench]

yeah thats probably my biggest flaw

i dont wait at all Q_Q

damn timing...

kinda funny how my timing also sucks when Im recording songs

atleast we can correct that tho xD

but hey i made a lot of progress today Im pretty happy haha\

@willow mural thanks for being my dummy ^^

[willow mural]

npnp

[gentle trench]

its bedtime for me now, have a good one guys ty for the help o/

[willow mural]

i had to shower so i afkd

cyacya

[real viper]

Oke 👌

[gentle trench]

^^

[willow mural]

o/

[willow mural]

WOOO

BEAT A GENESIS

patience is key 🧘‍♂️

[oblique sundial]

its insane to me that some people are just playing with 5 seconds of delay

like this very specific well geared add player

[glass echo]

And then they make us suffer by queueing

[oblique sundial]

like i know theres a server closer to you, theres probably one meant for you if were being honest

yet youre here, on na, playing a completely different game than everyone else

[glass echo]

What was that Rena doing when she awkedddd

[oblique sundial]

but apparently thats the only person in queue, so its time to play a different game

[willow mural]

not the 99%

[abstract yacht]

Dont recommend this.

characters have a landing animation but they can react earlier than the animation leads to believe
if you dont follow it right away with something (like guard) BEFORE they land
then it's a bad thing to do

[willow mural]

ok i got sss now

[abstract yacht]

I'll never find this reliable due to lag/latency/whatever

[willow mural]

i really need to level an alt bh

name ur favorite comeback!

[abstract yacht]

the cannonball shot actually doesnt give mana to you but it does to the opponent, though.

[mystic elbow]

He gotta go

Idr his name

But he gotta go

FL has to go too cuz why is that possible

[heavy spear]

learning how to deal with delay is probably the biggest skill issue i'm facing right now tbh

[mystic elbow]

Depending on the class they play u dont

[abstract yacht]

If its ara or chung just give up

or DeM

or Laby

[mystic elbow]

Idk about Ara

SU for sure n probably SH

Idk about DeM wither

Laby yes..

Chung yes

Eve definitely

[willow mural]

noooo dont let fl go

pvp is all she has

[mystic elbow]

I’m mostly talking about ✨ R e v e n a n t ✨

[willow mural]

just nerf the superarmor

and the length of the branch grab

whatever you call it

[mystic elbow]

His super armor and oki game is the biggest issues for me

[willow mural]

creep

the multi hitstun swamp thing

make it so youre stunned like 3 times and then can move

[abstract yacht]

that skill that throws spear up I think rise up? has pretty good delay for what little endlag it applies on the caster
its also a tenacity

[mystic elbow]

uh what does that have to do w/ fighting a DeM w/ delay

[abstract yacht]

are we not talking about the time stops that skills/awk apply? I've always called them delay
as I just did above.

[oblique sundial]

definitely doesnt have the word perk in it

[mystic elbow]

i dont think we're talking about the same thing..

[mystic elbow]

must be AbsoluteLerk then

my fault king

[oblique sundial]

yeh thats probably it

and dem with delay is aids because they all spam nether shredder and nether shredder lasts 6 years

[mystic elbow]

i forgot about that

[sacred niche]

Man... Most characters or classes that get on my nerves most of time are Aisha, Rena DyB & PH, Eve's CE & CA, Raven's RH & RV, Chung's Cent, Ara's SU, Add's OM, Luciel DeM, Rose, Ain RI & Bluhen, Laby's NL & TP, Noah

Just getting to queue on these ones I know I'm not gonna have a good time.

[mystic elbow]

Every class in the game is unfun for me

Everyone got some annoying gimmick u gotta deal with

[sacred niche]

But istg overall atm, I hate OM the most.

[heavy spear]

none of us are having fun here, we're just addicted

[mystic elbow]

OM is like

one of the easiest

characters in the game

[sacred niche]

Satan incarnate

whoop too late lol

Jokes aside though, giving Add Mental Hygiene (a.k.a old stoic strong but not really) suction, the box thing that I forgot the skill name, and Code Yellow.

It's just... why.

[willow mural]

bcuz they dont take pvp into account

[mystic elbow]

sorry what I meant was

OM isthe easiest to FIGHT

[sacred niche]

Low-key, I'd rather deal with the other Add's 3 paths, even with MpX's dumb stuff, than facing an OM on queue.

[dusk dock]

Overmind hate club? You love to see it.

[oblique sundial]

overmind is just platform camp until you have enough mp to try and oneshot

[gentle trench]

I think its yasus special move tho >.<

[willow mural]

Anytime people whisper me I try not to look at em cuz Ik it's something corny

But if ur an oz abusing dark iv phantom breathing u ain't got no space to throw shade

[oblique sundial]

yeh i just wanna know why there are so many add players that just

dont play on the right server

[willow mural]

The dominator?

[oblique sundial]

ye

[willow mural]

Couldn't even hitstun him properly

[oblique sundial]

dude just grazed until he could mash starfall

like thats great man glad i play on na where i expect to find people who are also from na

[willow mural]

U LOVE TO SEE IT

Caps sry

[oblique sundial]

cant even say its just like canada/mexico or something

thats not 800ms ping

[willow mural]

They still need to nerf darkness

[oblique sundial]

attributes should honestly just not exist in pvp

[real viper]

They are fine to exist

But the problem with it is...

They don't have internal cd

KR suggestion did mention about it

Doesn't matter how much resist you built, players will always find their way to shred it and abuse it

By adding an internal cd to attribute activation, it would solve the whole dark iv burning mp

Attribute was normal until ppl found out about the mystic "attribute activation chance increase" build on mystic

[abstract yacht]

it's been abused since 2014

[real viper]

But it wasn't popular until the build was discovered

Iirc

Mainly after the release of mystic (some times after?)

[abstract yacht]

it literally was being abused since Ara's release and further added with Add

[real viper]

Rly

I didn't play before elrianode era to know that

[abstract yacht]

mystics didn't do anything, attributes have been abused for years before even elysion existed

Mastermind with plague was hell

[real viper]

But isn't it easily counter by having high resist?

[abstract yacht]

yeah, if you even managed to balance all 6 elements

ERP didn't even exist, getting good resistance on all 6 elements to cover for all sorts of battles wasn't really easy

like oh boi 2016
transcendence release, Mastermind just spamming ZZXX and gaining full MP out of plague abuse and spamming that suction skill 💀

[real viper]

But anyway back to point, I think KR make sense when suggesting to add an internal cd for attribute activation

That should solve the issue, I think

[abstract yacht]

I also remember asuras on her release having it because she had the mana drain + energy absorption

and it only got worse by the years until I don't know what happened that no asura had plague anymore

also oo I'm satisfied I made this CEs quit pvp

first encountering her as BlM and all she did was spam ZZX then run away as soon as she could to repeat, so like, her gameplan was just spam SA cmd then run away to let the multi hits do the job on gaining mana and if I ever got her down she'd just stall away

went to my EtW so I could play on her trash running but she slapped me a one shot skill <-<

was like, alright... alright

brings DA
destroys her in 2 matches in a row
CEs no more to be seen

aaaaaah downgrading to other players' trash gameplay is boring and pathetic, but man does getting rid of them sure is satisfying

[heavy spear]

there are plenty of characters stronger than CE but ones that run and summon are a special kind of annoying

i fought one of those the other day, she tried to run at me with another summon so i just apollyon'd her

she whispered me saying "sob"
like sweetie just think about what you're doing.

[dusk dock]

You real for remembering this

It was such a pain

I remember MM getting tons of MP from old Hamel SD set back when he could clock

[hollow hound]

Idk what I did in the settings but I can't see other players mana bar.

[hollow abyss]

bru this dude

[hollow hound]

Name?

[mystic elbow]

?

Did you really tag me in a 5 month old comment

[hollow abyss]

?

[mystic elbow]

You’re joking.

[hollow abyss]

Im just confused why it's cringe?

The first thing I saw so I guess Im entertaining it

[mystic elbow]

Because there was quite literally nothing wrong with the original pvp channel

[hollow abyss]

Alr

[hollow abyss]

yes

[hollow abyss]

Na I wasn't

[mystic elbow]

Stop tagging me it’s annoying.

[fiery lion]

sericq has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sericq has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow abyss]

I was done 15 min ago chill buddy 😂

[mystic elbow]

[hollow abyss]

I only asked bc of the sudden hostility

[mystic elbow]

Ok?

[hollow abyss]

Alr then

what

[willow mural]

i dont have the mana checker

[gentle trench]

Does Lowe have random KD or is it just wind? Its kinda weird sometimes he gets KD after XX XX XX but sometimes I can XX XX XX XX ZZZZ

[real viper]

does your weap has wind attribute on?

[gentle trench]

Yeah wind 2

But its such a significant inconsistency

[real viper]

that likely to be the reason

[mystic elbow]

Lowe physics are weird so it’s best to practice combos on normal players

[real viper]

also iirc, Lowe has lower kd rate compare to actual players

cuz doing XX loop 3 times, your opponent has already kd

but Lowe can endure upto 4 times

(exclude wind attribute)

and like Cassian said, Lowe's physic is kinda weird

[gentle trench]

Oh sweet

[gentle trench]

Nah I can do it 4 times in pvp I think

[gentle trench]

Yeah xD

But u could do that one trick on lowe so I might aswell >.<

Just wish lowe had normal KD

[real viper]

but what trick are you looking for?

[gentle trench]

https://youtu.be/pXfWy1v2URc

But then I failed and looked at ways to correct it while stretching KD

But lowe had kinda weird KD

And finding a afk dummy is such dedication >.<

Plus Im half busy

[willow mural]

Yeah adding an internal cooldown to attributes would help

I'm also not against just removing them tho

Ofc there will always be cheese in pvp, but it's ridiculous

[gentle trench]

Yeah kinda would be nicer to have consistency xD

[real viper]

are you still trying it atm?

[gentle trench]

But then again u can practice for consistent stuff and just be lucky sometimes because wind xD

I gave up a little back and now doing arena >.<

[real viper]

do you perhap want to screenshare for me to watch?

just curious

[gentle trench]

A match?

Yeah sure ^^

[real viper]

ah no, I mean screenshare your view, not a match

cuz I'm not on NA

[gentle trench]

Oh yeah but do u mean screenshare a match or comboing lowe?

[real viper]

maybe practice with Lowe first

[gentle trench]

Alright

I dont have a mic in my pc xD

Ill call you and share screen

[real viper]

you don't need to

[willow mural]

...goodness

[mystic elbow]

he deserved that for being GS

[oblique sundial]

i hope dias command damage never gets nerfed

[mystic elbow]

i hope it gets gutted

[oblique sundial]

why am i beating a DA

[mystic elbow]

cuz DAs kinda suck

[oblique sundial]

forgot about that

[hollow abyss]

Ok? say it wit yo chest homie

[mystic elbow]

Is there a reason you're attempting to annoy me?

[hollow abyss]

dog you talked first

bruh this coward is annoying me good lord

[mystic elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-cringe-gif-20747133

[oblique sundial]

😭

[hollow abyss]

😂 that man love that word it basically describes him at this point

[willow mural]

THROWBACK

[hollow abyss]

annoying ahh

[mystic elbow]

"Why did FL get nerfed"
part of why:

[hollow abyss]

nah ur annoying

hop off

[mystic elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1082805921438244995/1138605510090833920/deji-crying.gif

[mystic elbow]

yes sirrrr

Ay what can I say bro

you're incredibly smart

[fiery lion]

sericq has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mystic elbow]

sniped

[hollow abyss]

and no one cares what yo bum ahh say

[mystic elbow]

I was just complimenting u

like I would've never thought to send a cry about it gif

[hollow abyss]

ur a discord nerd🤭

[mystic elbow]

yea i love discord dont u

[hollow abyss]

when I ain't dealing wit ppl who say stuff for no reason sure

[mystic elbow]

mood bro

[hollow abyss]

no one cares bro

[mystic elbow]

they dont????

tragedy

my life is ruined

[hollow abyss]

yeah man

[mystic elbow]

yea my life is ruined

Lost at life select fr

[hollow abyss]

👍

[mystic elbow]

im just glad im not creating imaginary beef

[oblique sundial]

dude just really wants an anime rivalry or smth

[mystic elbow]

its ok

[hollow abyss]

shut yo emo ahh up sit in ur corna niga

[mystic elbow]

ppl gotta get entertainment somehow

[hollow abyss]

facts

[oblique sundial]

dont ping me

[hollow abyss]

I do what want

[oblique sundial]

cool

[hollow abyss]

if I want to ill do it

[oblique sundial]

do it in a way that doesnt involve me

[mystic elbow]

RayZiki 🤝 Me = Entertaining each other

[hollow abyss]

If I dont I dont

he not wrong

[hollow abyss]

well then dont get in the way

[oblique sundial]

in the way of what

[fiery lion]

arnoldp has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow abyss]

tuff

[mystic elbow]

sniped

[hollow abyss]

just us talking

[hollow abyss]

alr well its been real

[fiery lion]

sericq has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mystic elbow]

sniped=

[knotty kraken]

mee6 doing a service

🫡

[hollow abyss]

no shii

bru no he not

[willow mural]

yall still at it?? 😭

[mystic elbow]

we jus talkin

[hollow abyss]

hold one more

Im ending it here

if I get sniped so be it

all y'all can shut yo weird emo anime pillow having ahh up

alr nice

✅

[mystic elbow]

its bc u said ahh instead of the real world

word*

say the real word coward!

[hollow abyss]

bru

you a coward

Im getting the last word

[mystic elbow]

SAy IT

[hollow abyss]

just end it here

[fiery lion]

sericq has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mystic elbow]

thats what I thought nerd

[hollow abyss]

sniped

player eliminated

[mystic elbow]

bros muted

LOOOOOL

😭

sniped fr

[hollow abyss]

I was gon type it regardless nerd

[mystic elbow]

no u werent

[hollow abyss]

best believe I was

[mystic elbow]

nah son

if u actually an add player its not in ya gene's

[hollow abyss]

yeah son

[mystic elbow]

ya gene's didn't code for being cool

[hollow abyss]

huh

[oblique sundial]

dont think the dude has anything worth mentioning in his jeans

[hollow abyss]

I play any character

[mystic elbow]

its genetics bro u dont get it?

oh you're just

a prime elswordian

thats ok

we all love elsword

[hollow abyss]

its a ok game now

[mystic elbow]

its an ok game if u play an ok character

[hollow abyss]

best believe it's my genes

[mystic elbow]

if u do pve and picked elbow u lost at char select

[hollow abyss]

bru

I just said I play other characters

[mystic elbow]

i was jus saying

[oblique sundial]

its okay until you fight an optimal rose in 1s

[mystic elbow]

are u fighting Slrun :)

[oblique sundial]

yeah

i alt f4ed :)

[mystic elbow]

lmaoo thats my guildie

LOOOL

[oblique sundial]

im not watching the cutscene

lmao

[mystic elbow]

YOU WERE WHO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT??

[oblique sundial]

yeah

i dont feel shame

[mystic elbow]

ngl I probably would do

he does NO dmg

[oblique sundial]

he doesnt do damage but 400 mp vs 100 mp just doesnt work

and i cant nuke

[mystic elbow]

he a good MN which is always

gonna be annoying

[oblique sundial]

i just dont know why a zoner has that much SA and mobility

[hollow abyss]

my genes> cassian genes

uh

[oblique sundial]

and a suction oki

[mystic elbow]

NAH

yea

[oblique sundial]

its like laby with a gun

[hollow abyss]

yea

[mystic elbow]

my gene's r

too good

ongawd

[hollow abyss]

cap

well

glad I cured my boredom

[mystic elbow]

youre welcome

[hollow abyss]

ye

add me

RenoXP

[mystic elbow]

sec im getting soulmated

[hollow abyss]

I don't play that much but ya know

Igh

[mystic elbow]

tho Arnold

Slrun is VERY squishy

so u dont rly need to one shot

[oblique sundial]

well you see that involves me winning neutral early enough

and theres a 90% chance im not going to do that because blazing bullet is better than my entire kit

[mystic elbow]

t r u e

[oblique sundial]

i deserve it for playing a bad character ig

yeah i literally dont have a way to deal with her

unless she makes a huge mistake, im going to lose first exchange and get snowballed

[mystic elbow]

u think if u were DeM or Cata you'd be able to?

[oblique sundial]

i mean i am dem, so no to dem lul

[empty ore]

What class is he playing

[mystic elbow]

sorr

[empty ore]

Ok Dem

[mystic elbow]

I ment

DiA

not DeM

[empty ore]

no wonder

[oblique sundial]

dia i at least have >>xz to crutch on and cata has an air dash with super armor

dias also got the cage so having 100 mp actually means something

Dem just has the funny gimmicky snowball

[heavy spear]

dem is cheese

i would rather nuke or gorilla, which is why i'm enjoying cata

[oblique sundial]

crazy how umbuxia dms me after winning to complain about dem

[empty ore]

https://youtu.be/8QcCPvRkxbk?t=8
Antithese scary

[oblique sundial]

and the dude just keeps going lol

[empty ore]

Oh that guy,

very weak

[oblique sundial]

never seen someone that upset about a win

[mystic elbow]

It's giving Ryxma

[oblique sundial]

90% sure its their alt

[empty ore]

Lets talk about more important things

Like how you just cant tank daybreaker

[mystic elbow]

but DyB can tank u

[oblique sundial]

ill tank whoever i want

[empty ore]

I learned alot today, im satisfied.

Im on a high rn. Now I know how Gojo felt after getting his butt handed to by Toji

[oblique sundial]

me after learning that dem can loop >>^zxz

[hollow hound]

Blacklisted. ✅

[oblique sundial]

i miss when ravens did more than zzxx

[gentle trench]

WHAHAHAHA just won from the most toxic player ever

Tenebrexia

And the funniest thing is I did it as a chung against an aisha, but I used her own playstyle

I literally killed her with 3x Artillery Nova from a long distance

Its not something to be proud of, but she used this massive lightning azoth has

Luckily I was able to dodge one with obtenebration and another one because she was too predictable, the other two were from so far away I countered with artillery nova because she wasnt fast enough to catch up the hitstun (even tho its mega long) because it was so far and I was able to shorten the last hitstun with guard (I think?)

Feels really good, she always plays super toxic AND flags AND complains about stuff like bullet blitz to FP’s and then uses it herself all the time

[empty ore]

Good job, thats definitely a hard fight to win.

[gentle trench]

😄 ty!

Finally revenge >.<

First time fighting her with my VoS 😈 cant wait for S4 and S5

Is that gonna give me a lot of damage? Like 20% more or something?

[empty ore]

Yeah its a very nice boost

[gentle trench]

Nice 😄

[willow mural]

clown behavior

[empty ore]

Why my kind so gay

[willow mural]

what

[empty ore]

Its been a meme for years that all Aisha mains are gay

[mystic elbow]

Gey men

All of em

[sacred niche]

Fighting Aishas in general is tiring and annoying overall, ever since 2012 or lower than that.

Hell, all my els life, I've never seen an aggro Aisha at all that'll let you make the one on the running part instead of them like they usually are.

[heavy spear]

i'd probably play an aggro aisha

are luciel mains gay too

[mystic elbow]

why would they play aggro

💀

thats asking to lose the match

[empty ore]

Cassian is right

an aggressive Aisha is a dead Aisha

[sacred niche]

Guess you misinterpreted what I said, fine, to make it easier to understand, and Aisha that actually combos you to death plus spells, instead of the usual ''let them get to you while I charge mana, cast a spell and run, repeat" one.

[empty ore]

My dear friend rei, you know I understood you well.

[sacred niche]

Probably(?) Mtm leans on that part, but no, most players I see still does the same stuff what an Aisha does.

iir my memory right, only CQCexpert/Kozin was the one who managed to pull that one out, or I'm just coping on his DW plays I guess.

[mystic elbow]

uhh they rarely do that

most aisha's obviously will charge and play passive

but they definitely do combo

or use some sort of infinite combo they have

[empty ore]

https://youtu.be/n8SlbE7_EPY
The closet player whos plays close to your ideal is this kr player shadow body.

Absolute beast

[mystic elbow]

I swear my mtm is the only one that does no dmg

[empty ore]

Stack double attack

[mystic elbow]

thats how fast I want to do my bonks

[empty ore]

And you'll be a monster

[mystic elbow]

honestly I could cuz I don't use that Aisha for pve at all

pve'ing with aisha

lol

mayb just oz

LA pve was so boring

[empty ore]

Pveing with Mtm late game is kinda sad

Oz is a ton of fun for me

[mystic elbow]

Yea I haven't rly done it

I only did berthe w/ mtm and la

me artifact not stage 4 yet

[empty ore]

Nice, you were probs supporting more then

Cause im looking at her DPS potentional

and its not great

[mystic elbow]

yea her dps is

lol.

ive seen an oz dps tho and that was pretty interesting

[empty ore]

Shes fine as long as the boss isnt small.

Get as much cdr as you can spam abysmal field 100% uptime

[mystic elbow]

wouldnt that mean she can be pretty lackluster for all of the raids

at some point

[empty ore]

Im talkin rosso small

Anni and Ran are tall

[mystic elbow]

O okay

[sacred niche]

Bruh, now this is the type of Aisha player that if I get beaten up at, I wouldn't even be mad.

[mystic elbow]

MadamCosmo plays similar

just

does no dmg

...at all

[empty ore]

I remember her, i'd love to see her geared up.

[mystic elbow]

they're a very wholesome player

if I was rich I'd consider it

[sacred niche]

guess I haven't saw that person yet on queue, but all Mtms I see on the Arena overall just camp run and charge and hoping Energy Ring does everything.

[empty ore]

Yep welcome to 2023 MtM

I actually miss old energy ring tho

[mystic elbow]

They barely do arena

you'll catch them in spar

I gotta find RF acc for Aisha zz

[sacred niche]

Man...

https://youtu.be/zqrighWCbSc

#KozinCopium

[noble pelican]

This is true!

🥲

[mystic elbow]

its ok yer still cool

[noble pelican]

Ty Ty 🥲

[mystic elbow]

we'll get u geared up one day

[noble pelican]

I appreciate it. I’ll be rocking the +10 void in the meantime

[mystic elbow]

where did the +10 foj go

[noble pelican]

Ah…I have no mystics

[mystic elbow]

hm okay

when i see u again ill give mystics

[noble pelican]

Ah—

Noooo! It’s ok!!

I’ll figure it out!

[mystic elbow]

they rly dont cost a lot

its like

40m per stack

[noble pelican]

Dang

That’s what I earn in a month

🥹

[mystic elbow]

😭

what is this 10 cents an hour paycheck

[noble pelican]

If I was smart, I’d farm in PVE

[mystic elbow]

pve is gross

[noble pelican]

Very gross

[mystic elbow]

fighters every week and selling golden apples is sufficient

[noble pelican]

I’m trying to farm those

It’s just…

I like mtm too much

💀

[mystic elbow]

understandable

u can always make a bunch of mtm alts

[noble pelican]

It’s on my bucket list

[mystic elbow]

hehe

[noble pelican]

I’m in the works of one

Someday!

[noble pelican]

This person is my biggest aspiration! Love their stuff

[empty ore]

Oh my its you! Its so good to see you fellow Aisha main

[noble pelican]

[mystic elbow]

ill main aisha for aisha stuff

[abstract yacht]

because KoG incentivizes gaymeplay on Aisha :pepehands:

[noble pelican]

I welcome any reason for playing Aisha

[noble pelican]

💀

[empty ore]

Shes cute, shes purple, got charm. a bit tsun. But shes a queen in our hearts

[mystic elbow]

my mtm weak as a mezzo forte

even w/ VoS I had multiple ppl tell me

my dmg is too low

[empty ore]

Give me a +11 stage VoS

fill it up with about 15-20% double attack.

They will die

[noble pelican]

Same here

[mystic elbow]

I have +11 S5 VoS

[noble pelican]

[empty ore]

How much ASD you got tho

[mystic elbow]

I was gonna get BnW but I feel like MtM doesn't need it

uh

idk

I did crit dmg

[empty ore]

Crit damage is fine too. its just that magic staff gets buffed by ASD as well

[mystic elbow]

oh

maybe i should

like

read passive

s

💀

[empty ore]

Nono this wasnt a passive read.

I had to test this stuff

[mystic elbow]

ik for one I need a bit more mpr

o rly

[noble pelican]

I’ve realized that too. I’ve been stacking cmd dmg until I realized the passive was a skill

😔

[mystic elbow]

its prolly also cuz

the ppl they're comparing my dmg to

has +10/11 duelist

and im +9

[noble pelican]

You’re not alone

[mystic elbow]

+9 duelist gamerrrss

[noble pelican]

Let’s gooooo

[noble pelican]

Guess it’s time I change all my duelist sockets to ASD + crit dmg

[mystic elbow]

I don't think I use mag makeup enough

[empty ore]

Eh why

[mystic elbow]

why do I think I dont

[empty ore]

Well many reasons probably
-lost its delay

• Some staff commands get messed up

[mystic elbow]

tru it feels like she's completely vulnerable after using it

and thats kinda annoying when I specifically use it to clash

[empty ore]

Yeah you cant use it to clash anymore

Its best benefit is stalling out delays/obtene

[mystic elbow]

yea ill use it for that and sometimes against iron body

depending on how far the elbow/elesis is

and how much mp they got

[empty ore]

Yeah even using it now

Magical makeup just dont feel right

Still gonna use it tho

[noble pelican]

Plus, you look cute after using it

An added bonus

[abstract yacht]

can't worry about staff messing up when the MtM is just spamming ^^Z

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1073493779027349575.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

[noble pelican]

Until you miss the input and get one shot

[empty ore]

Hey, pilot error

[mystic elbow]

on laptop sometimes the input just raw doesnt go through

happens to me w/ ara vx ^x too

[solid socket]

Is there any good nyx videos from kr or in general pvp wise out of curiosity I haven't found any or maybe I'm just bad at looking

[celest ore]

this game is weird in how it handles inputs, i assume another one of their bot measures but like

[heavy spear]

and all this time i thought it was a skill issue that my commands were messing up sometimes

[empty ore]

ghosting

[versed knot]

There's sometime certain parts of maps that dont allow players to go down the platforms too

[celest ore]

just to elaborate on this, this is probably the only game i've ever seen that absolutely refuses to accept anything from steam input

this means you cant configure a gamepad properly, it means you can't stream the game either

did i mention elsword is a ridiculously inconvenient game

[oblique sundial]

Imagine if they just used steam servers and implemented some sort of rollback netcode

[lavish socket]

See don't give me hope now that dangerous

[mystic elbow]

Were u still looking for RL weapon

[lavish socket]

Yes

[oblique sundial]

i mean there might be a few things that might just not work with rollback

like booms

[mystic elbow]

I found one

[lavish socket]

WOOO

Where

[mystic elbow]

Tyrants dummy self didn’t reply to me when i asked if u were still looking

Sec ill DM

[lavish socket]

Tell him If he can hold it cuz I'm working right now

[mystic elbow]

Tyrant isnt the one who has it

Hes the one who tasked me to find it

I DMd u the person selling tho

So just contact em whenever

[lavish socket]

Ok

[dusk dock]

HAHAHAHA if only 😔

[oblique sundial]

dems complete lack of damage really hurts

like yeah cool infinite braveries but does it really matter if you can tank to 500 mp

[heavy spear]

infinite resources that you have to use to clash or dodge your opponent's nukes

[oblique sundial]

maybe if i wasnt so far behind on gear i wouldnt have this issue

or if i just picked cata like a non-stupid person

[heavy spear]

cata lu >>^zzx is kinda funny lol

like why does it linger that long

[dusk dock]

Because KoG

They like doing stuff like that

[noble pelican]

Lingering hits make it seem as if their game doesn’t lag

“I hit them?? Wow! I must not be lagging then”

It’s fun to watch funky stuff like that imo

[charred pine]

how many ppl here are interesting in playing PvP at a competetive level and want to get better? (leave a reaction)

[mystic elbow]

Probably just @gentle trench

Everyone else is not new at all

[charred pine]

guess i should rephrase that then. trying to make pvp active with more people in the top ranks

[mystic elbow]

For 2s?

[charred pine]

mhm

[mystic elbow]

Umm I think maybe @willow mural is interested in 2s

I want to do 2s but not as Apsara

[dusk dock]

Would react but I'm on my PvE arc rn

[mystic elbow]

Ew pve

[dusk dock]

This newly acquired VoS aint finna build itself

+10 FoJ can only take me so far

[mystic elbow]

U interested in 2s?

[oblique sundial]

I'd do 2s but I blow at 2s and get flamed

[dusk dock]

Yes but 2s is more gear reliant than 1s sadly

[mystic elbow]

If it makes u feel better arnold

Finish your vos..

[charred pine]

just learn from your mistakes. i can help with that

that too

[mystic elbow]

Can you?

[oblique sundial]

Do it for me

[charred pine]

hell still need to finish my +8 vos to stage 5

[dusk dock]

Me whenever I get abducted into 2s sparring rooms for fun

[willow mural]

yeah thats a me

[mystic elbow]

I’ll do it with u but not for u

[oblique sundial]

Ayo?

[mystic elbow]

Ill run berthe with u

Idm

Helping find parties n all that

[oblique sundial]

Alright then

I mean dem is op so

[mystic elbow]

If anythin i think u only need S4

[oblique sundial]

Shouldn't be too hard

[mystic elbow]

Its just time consuming and boring

[oblique sundial]

Yeh that's half the reason I haven't started

[mystic elbow]

Only thing that can make it difficult is your teammates being @$$

[oblique sundial]

But maybe with vos I'll hate dem less

[mystic elbow]

No 💀

[oblique sundial]

Rip

[mystic elbow]

You’ll do more dmg but like

Not as much as you would if u were ANY other LuCiel

[oblique sundial]

Ye

+10 void cata casually doing 120k with an active

[mystic elbow]

🙂

Fair and balanced

[oblique sundial]

Totally

About as fair as dia command damage

[mystic elbow]

I loved getting deleted by bound combo

I miss when in Winners bound combo would send them to the background

[oblique sundial]

Dem can at least snowball in winners

Start off with a bravery lul

[mystic elbow]

How fun!

Buff Ara.

[oblique sundial]

Please do not buff Ara

She had her time

[solid socket]

buff noah

:D

[oblique sundial]

No?

Buff inno

[charred pine]

buff DA

and cent

[willow mural]

buff tp 😏

[mystic elbow]

her buff was during a time where 4th paths didn't exist

:(

[oblique sundial]

It's okay 4th paths will get nerfed eventually

When they can stop milking money out of them

[mystic elbow]

@charred pine u have a 10 vos so why are u getting the 8 to S5

[charred pine]

to make it my pvp wpn

the 10 vos is for pve

[mystic elbow]

But

Its the same weapon

Like.. optimal for pve and optimal for pvp is like the same weapon

[charred pine]

one is mystic'd with dmg the other with element proc chance

[mystic elbow]

[charred pine]

plus i barely have enough cp to enter ran raid

+8 vos has dignity sockets too

[mystic elbow]

Huh well

I dont rly

Get the point

Of two separate weapons

[charred pine]

in short, testing builds without hurting my cp

[mystic elbow]

ic

[dusk dock]

;c

[willow mural]

i goof around with +9 apoc wep cuz i hate myself ig

[dusk dock]

You just like a challenge and a somewhat fair fight

And to have fun

:U?

[willow mural]

i should fight with no wep next time 😏

[glass echo]

I goof around with my +11 FoJ because I hate myself

[heavy spear]

i haven't even touched the free foj we got a few weeks back

not a single sensible thought in my brain

perhaps i should make it an exp weap

[dusk dock]

spar time

[oblique sundial]

When I played dia I'd use a +8 SD weapon every now and then

But now I'm literally just gonna do nothing so lul

[willow mural]

O

Whoops

[gentle trench]

🙇🏼‍♂️yup

[gentle trench]

Take me with you guys >.< Im at S3

Im mostly a 1v1 guy, but I think I might be one of the better 2v2 classes? SA, buffs, massive nova hitbox, heavy stance spam XX

But isnt 2v2 only SSS? I think nobody below ques

[oblique sundial]

i mean 2v2 will put S players with SSS players

[real viper]

2v2 not that popular in other server outside of KR, I think?

unless sparring room

[oblique sundial]

It's pretty popular on na and I can see why

1s turns into an unskippable cutscene vs most of the cast right now

2s always has some sort of interaction and a lot more characters become viable

[real viper]

rly...?
I rarely see 2s in arena on INT

[oblique sundial]

Int idk about

[real viper]

2s make everyone more aware of situation, not just randomly pressing skill and kill for score

but it's indeed has it own unique feel compare to 1v1

[oblique sundial]

I'm just getting bored of 1s

Either setplay or get setplayed

And now I got people /wing me to flame me when they win???

Like you just can't have fun anymore

[cyan quail]

Been like that for a while now

[oblique sundial]

The unintended consequences of optimization

[sacred niche]

Nah, more like the curse of playing Aisha or Luciel.

--or by playing characters with the easiest cheese method = getting flamed by dms/whispers

[oblique sundial]

Honestly dias the only luciel worth complaining about

Dems snowball is annoying but it's only about as strong as the hundreds of other win conditions in the game

Dia though nah that character shouldn't exist, why did I think JCing would be a good idea

[hollow hound]

I wouldn't mind playing 2vs2 but I need more practice.

[sacred niche]

2v2 or 3v3 would've been neat imo, but the fact that doing special actives or awakening affects everyone on timestop frames regardless if teammate or enemy.

If only the timestop frames only affect enemies, 2v2/3v3 would be interesting for me.

kudos to peeps who can handle those long timestops ngl, but it ain't my cup of tea Like... I could make a sandwich out of those timestop frames before I could even get to move

[mystic elbow]

Well that’s part of what makes 2s more interesting

You cant just no brain and win

[real viper]

I suppose it's 1 way of how the game punish for using S.Active too random

[real viper]

like Cassi said ^
I also think it's interesting that way
just the difference between teamfight and 1v1

[empty ore]

Practice, is a very important thing

[mystic elbow]

Idk with the amount of characters with multiple awks and booms the mode would just be way too easy

[empty ore]

But when you dont get to practice. What do you do. do you go in random 2s and wing it and just die because you have no idea how to really be a team player?

Cause ideally the core of the mode is the same, get mana to press button and kill opponents. But theres 2* other factors for you to worry about

[real viper]

maybe sparring room would be the solution?

cuz you can't practice alone if it's a teamfight imo

[empty ore]

Yes that is the most obvious solution. Everyone who wants to be decent should head into a spar room first

Cause I sure didnt lol

[noble pelican]

me too. that's why ya only see me in 1's

occassionally, there'd be 2v2 rooms in spar

[noble pelican]

you're not alone too...dunno why people feel the need to /w after winning. pvp should be fun :c

aisha curse

[sacred niche]

Weird that you two find it "interesting'' w/e, it would've been fine if you can timestop with special actives or awaken for your team while they continue to move and re-catch or chain along with it. Like... basically helping your team secure the hit is a helping part.

[empty ore]

Nobody finds us fun to fight 😭

[noble pelican]

i've seen that a teammate can still move if they're, like, off the screen. would be interesting to see a "team mates aren't effected by team mates' SAs/awakenings" change

[noble pelican]

at least we'll continue looking cute 😭

[sacred niche]

Like... imagine 3v3 you or your teammate secures the enemy side in a locked combo or special active, while your other teammate decides to awaken, SA is continuous damage = gets interrupted causing KD -> enemies can move.

Oh yeah... ''help"

[empty ore]

If you've ever 2v2'd with Apsara you could be standing still for like 5+ seconds cause they're setting up their burst

Im like

Ok when is it my turn

[noble pelican]

[sacred niche]

like... ''CAN I MOVE PLEASE??? EVERYONE??''

[noble pelican]

true, true. i can already envision it

"I wanna fight too, not be a statue"

[sacred niche]

fr when old PvP when RoF wasn't nerfed = has 1 bead awaken at start... imagine 2v2 or 3v3 starts...

[noble pelican]

oh god

if they kept that + forces were a thing...

i'd cry

[sacred niche]

Yeah, like, I'd just cook a full course meal and they're still not done.

[noble pelican]

[mystic elbow]

I was told I’m “dishonorable” on MtM bc I wouldnt let the other person combo me

But apparently it would be fine if I was Ara

So now theres a player who absolutely despises my MtM but likes my Ara

Even if he constantly makes backhanded remarks

[mystic elbow]

Well the way I see it is, the mode would be wayy more brain off with that

You wouldnt have to think about when to use special actives or awk

It would just be 1s with 2 extra people in it

[sacred niche]

I get what you mean, but let's face it, that method works if 1, you're playing with close people or guildmates that knows your strategy.