Roll
#pvp
willow mural
Here
mystic elbow
But with undying on
U “kill” an eve
Use a freeze frame skill
And b4 they can roll over n heal
They’ll die
gentle trench
Thats good hitbox
willow mural
Clock is the yellow clock, obtene is the thing that turned me purple
mystic elbow
That’ll work unless they were healing b4 they initially died
Like here
Had the NI had undying
He probably wouldnt have lost
willow mural
He would've killed me yeah
mystic elbow
Thats what u wanna avoid
willow mural
At the end I could've used a time stop skill and killed him with my undying
gentle trench
Hmmm its pretty good
mystic elbow
Yea
willow mural
I think he died to a fire debuff or something
But yeah don't underestimate how well people are at running
mystic elbow
If Benis was a CA he couldve instantly started healing
willow mural
That was the longest 40 seconds of my life
mystic elbow
Yeah
willow mural
4th eve
gentle trench
Icic
mystic elbow
Yeah oppressive eve
gentle trench
Hmm maybe my hitbox is not big enough
And if they heal…
It seems to be a common thing? Even a title u guys said
On the bright side, I might be able to ditch that skill now and get iron howling for a nice stun or wonder wall for super armor instead
I got pretty good mid air so staying above someone is pretty okay
mystic elbow
Eclipse is a very common title
A lot of the people u fight will have eclipse or freed shadow on
gentle trench
I use man against the sun, outdated much? XD
gentle trench
Which one should I aim for?
gentle trench
A lot of the people u fight will have eclipse or freed shadow on
This? XD
mystic elbow
Eclipse is good
But I personally use GoE cuz I dont need a revive and the swords from Eclipse tend to feed
GoE is Guardian of Elrianode
willow mural
Freed shadow is like a mix of both
mystic elbow
Freed Shadow is smth you probably have to get a lot later
mystic elbow
How fun
echo tangle
not too bad
mystic elbow
Eclipse is like 60 runs I think
Unless they changed it
O u need man against the sun and shadow’s descent first
U have man against the sun
But do u have shadow’s descent
fiery lionBOT
Woofles#2341 has been warned
mystic elbow
Nvm
Bruh
To get Eclipse itself u have to kill Solace within the 60 seconds he spends in phase 2
10 times
gentle trench
Still need shadows descent
5x solaces fortress huh
Lets see which one that is again
Oke cant get hit more then 30x
Gotta do it 5x
300k cp sparring gear +11 void
Oh 450k with the expiring elrianode
Guess I give it a try
echo tangle
make sure to get a perm elrianode set from prof phoru mission
gentle trench
Theres a perm one too?
echo tangle
you can get a permanent elrianode armor that doesnt expire
if you have the timed one you must have opened the returning player cube
gentle trench
Oke cant get hit more then 30x
Damn thats never gonna happen
gentle trench
you can get a permanent elrianode armor that doesnt expire
Oh found it! Nice 😄
How is undying droprate? Just got a 50% drop box
echo tangle
drop rate doesnt affect raid drops
and you can only receive drops once a week unless you use reset tickets
echo tangle
no
gentle trench
echo tangle
most of the time you get it from exchanging blazing crystal which you get if someone on your team drops a foj or if you dismantle an foj/accessory yourself
gentle trench
To get Eclipse itself u have to kill Solace within the 60 seconds he spends in p...
How hard is this?
mystic elbow
uhh not sure
for me it was easy cuz I did it on CA
but u just need a burst dmg skill to take the rest of his bars
gentle trench
I can get carried right?
mystic elbow
yeah
gentle trench
Sweet
gentle trench
most of the time you get it from exchanging blazing crystal which you get if som...
Wait foj drops there too?
echo tangle
are you talking about undying flame the accessory right?
gentle trench
Void>foj>vos>soa right?
gentle trench
are you talking about undying flame the accessory right?
Yeah
mystic elbow
u can skip FoJ
gentle trench
Ah gotcha
mystic elbow
just get your armor up n go for VoS
gentle trench
1.5mil CP right?
mystic elbow
as CC u should be able to find runs pretty oka
echo tangle
yeah
gentle trench
as CC u should be able to find runs pretty oka
Oh really?
gentle trench
Im a complete pve noob
echo tangle
CC provides SA and damage reduction which is useful
mystic elbow
o lordt
echo tangle
also freeze and other buffs
gentle trench
CC provides SA and damage reduction which is useful
Passive?
echo tangle
through his skills
mystic elbow
yeah for the most part
gentle trench
People said its really hard
mystic elbow
Berthe is only hard with slow DPS or a bad party
gentle trench
To get in I mean
mystic elbow
Ohh
gentle trench
Or that was soa
mystic elbow
it is if u play Elsword
echo tangle
as CC the worst you can do is provide SA during the 2nd phase of 15-5
mystic elbow
any other character has a support class
that can get in raids
For SoA you'll need 5m CP
so dw about it
gentle trench
SA?
echo tangle
super armor
gentle trench
Oh gotcha
echo tangle
red outline on your character
gentle trench
Cool
mystic elbow
it doesn't last long so you'll have to keep recasting it
gentle trench
Do u guys use drain?
gentle trench
Are those unique force things worth it?
mystic elbow
sec
thats what ppl mostly take for 1s
some will replace shattered with elrian clock
or shattered with drain
gentle trench
How big is illiphia normal vs unique difference?
mystic elbow
u can get the third passive slot by completing Master Class levels
gentle trench
Oh I see
mystic elbow
HP is increased by 25k and you heal wayyy more
gentle trench
Oh worth
echo tangle
more HP is always good in pvp
gentle trench
What are the other two called?
echo tangle
middle is ignite
mystic elbow
here is a side by side comparison
The third is El's Aspiration
When it procs it summons the boss from Hall of El to send an attack to your opponent
it's a good pressure tool
it can cause your opponent to waste resources or force a mana break
glass echo
Now I can copy Cassian's build 😳
gentle trench
The third is El's Aspiration
Only see a face acc on board xD
Its untradable? Or just not for sale rn
mystic elbow
It's a legendary force skill so you can only get it from the dungeon Hall of El
or by Glave
Using Henir rewards
same with Fog and Elrian Clock
gentle trench
Ah gotcha
mystic elbow
iirc it takes 4 weeks? to be able to get one
gentle trench
Pain
echo tangle
before you try and get it remember to also get stuff for PvE
gentle trench
How much is unique ignite?
echo tangle
varies
mystic elbow
Unique Ignite usually sits at 400m
echo tangle
I sold mine for 450
gentle trench
before you try and get it remember to also get stuff for PvE
Haha yeah ur right, should get VoS
echo tangle
no I mean
gentle trench
I dont wanna go down the rabbit hole to endgame but I want a VoS xD
echo tangle
you should work on progress PvE instead of focusing only PvP atm
gentle trench
I use void :c
gentle trench
Did 300 runs for it then quit
fiery lionBOT
Hashime#3840 has been warned
glass echo
Game sucks what can I say
Too much of a bother to get that free stuff
Imagine doing PvE
gentle trench
Imagine doing PvE
Real
mystic elbow
pve sucks 
gentle trench
Yeah its terrible
mystic elbow
ive been stuck doing it since August
gentle trench
;-;
glass echo
Why do you do this to yourself
gentle trench
Does anyone here have a apex pro keyboard?
mystic elbow
I do
gentle trench
Not tryna flex I got a used one for cheap because I needed a mechanical one
mystic elbow
I'll have to check when I get home on Wednesday
gentle trench
I just put it like this
gentle trench
Oh pog
Id appreciate that
I like it how it is now, on 0.2 it types when I breathe on it so I almost cant chat with people haha
Im thinking of maybe putting my x key super fast responding so I can get better at x drops
But for some reason u cant change actuation for the arrow keys? 🤨
Like why?
gentle trench
I do
mystic elbow
why does it look like that
gentle trench
mystic elbow
my steelseries software is diff
gentle trench
Only the left side is customise able
gentle trench
mystic elbow
ou...
gentle trench
True yeah I could do that
gentle trench
But I dont think they changed it
mystic elbow
its probably fine
gentle trench
U said u use a different program to customize it?
gentle trench
Seems like mine has engine built in lets see
Ah its the same after all, the engine is just a different tab that opens
mystic elbow
idky it doesn't let u customize the whole thing
atomic marsh
Hello does anybody wanna do some sparring
I don't wanna fight the laggy RV in queue atm
loud wadi
it's a trap...
atomic marsh
What
loud wadi
exactly what i said ..
gentle trench
I could
atomic marsh
exactly what i said ..
I am not a laggy RV
gentle trench
Smh
I spent like 40 minutes searching how to reroll additional effects on stuff like drabaki
Why cant I find anything? Am I dumb?
atomic marsh
You just use the blessed time and space scroll or whatever it's called
gentle trench
Ty!
willow mural
Only thing that's worse than an RV is a laggy RV
fiery lionBOT
Numbers#7005 has been warned
willow mural
Lmao
willow mural
I hope you don't encounter and gns on your way
mystic elbow
I got one
atomic marsh
Whoever gave him that needs to be gunned down
willow mural
I refuse to enter arena until that gets nerfed
atomic marsh
So anyone wanna spar??
gentle trench
Sure!
heavy spear
what can i do against CA, if anything?
mystic elbow
roll over n perish fr...
willow mural
Play passive
mystic elbow
Maybe
willow mural
I hope u have a haunting spirit
heavy spear
i got close to beating one for the first time last night but still lost cause they decided to just time me out with constant >>x in the air
mystic elbow
n win the game off it
mystic elbow
yeaa
mystic elbow
Idk if IN has anything to knock CA out the air
willow mural
Lu >>zx 
mystic elbow
heavy spear
i had trouble with them as AD too lol
but at least i had chasing prey and >>^zx
willow mural
I still say to play passive and see if you can catch em with a grenade or stomp or smthn
willow mural
4th path privilege
mystic elbow
hence why AD is on the same level in tierlists
willow mural
If they're dashing around or spam jumping it's not worth trying to hit them
Dont jump around because they'll probably hit you with those ridiculous multihit lingering balls
Alternatively tank them and gain some mp
Save that escape skill
empty ore
Alternatively tank them and gain some mp
This only works on bad CA's
If they're dashing alot on the ground, try to get behind em to graze for some mp. Just dont get too close or you'll get mind photographed or slaped
Also make sure you're not blowing your mp load too early. Cause with healing she can turn the game around so fast. 0mp and 80% hp means nothing if she has mp
willow mural
aight anyone wanna spar
oblique sundial
what can i do against CA, if anything?
youre kind of forced to clock
you get 1.5 mp a second on the off character so you might get a soul spread catch if youre lucky?
rich quail
One thing you can do to test your ping is send a whisper to yourself, and see how long it takes for the response to come back.
willow mural
One thing you can do to test your ping is send a whisper to yourself, and see ho...
ty for showing me this easter egg
rich quail
You're welcome. o/
mystic elbow
I go like
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In guild chat
dusk dock
New mod skills
mystic elbow
You’ll b ok
gentle trench
What are these flying swords?
Laby using em, aisha using em
Must be a force skill right?
empty ore
(toplel there's audio desync mb)
Its him, he's literally dropping packets in some parts of the vid.
oblique sundial
nah the op part eclipse is that shield
gentle trench
I changed almost all my skills and kept on doing matches
Im almost A rank now lmao
Good news tho is that I found a top 30 star rank CC who gave me some nice advice
mystic elbow
Yea thats who I wanted u to find
heavy spear
in the back of my mind i'm tempted to switch to dem cause i'm curious and they seem to have an easier time in neutral
how's their damage output? i assume they can't infinite like inno can but would i be missing out on a lot of damage?
mystic elbow
Uhh INs dmg output is def better
But DeM would probably have an easier time against the new characters
oblique sundial
Inno is cooler dem is easy mode
heavy spear
i'm going to miss inno's pve clearing
heavy spear
ok good
i'm probably going to miss inno's dmg the most though lol
i'm looking at videos of dem and tbh their dmg seems low
maybe these players are just undergeared
oblique sundial
Vs big bosses dems damage is higher iirc
heavy spear
oh i meant pvp
oblique sundial
O
gentle trench
Is 1.5% crit really better then 1% physical on sparring gear?
oblique sundial
Like crit damage?
gentle trench
I went for physical but then a pro told me it was bad and I should get crit instead, but it sounds weird to me
burnt jungle
phys/mag max value is only 1% and crit dmg is 1.5% max, but crit dmg benefits on any class
when u jc to a class that is a different atk type, ur wasting more jellmantis and ep for that
gentle trench
Oh I see
Gotcha 🙂
How do you guys put ERP?
PvE
100/100 exp
-> 100/100 -mp?
PvP
100/100 -mp
->50/50 HP
—>50/50 Elemental
- all def or - cooldown?
echo tangle
If it's your main character EXP -> all skill dmg
or exp -> idr
I would advise against a pvp page
gentle trench
Against a pvp page? Why
echo tangle
because you only get one free erp page and you rather use that for pve than for pvp
gentle trench
Ah yeah I just bought the second one because I think the -mp is just too good
Was kinda expensive tho 🤒😵💫
Does item drop rate work for VoS and undying etc?
gentle trench
Hmmm, then I guess I should go for skill damage. I dont think Ill be doing a lot of dungeon grinding after getting my title and VOS and undying etc
echo tangle
are you sure? elsword is a pretty grindy game and you're going to have to at some point
normally page have one page for grinding and the 2nd free one for dmg
gentle trench
I think once I +11 vos and got my slots filled that I force myself to stop progressing to prevent myself from spending too much time and money on the game, and then I just pvp xD
But some day I need SoA, so u are kinda right
echo tangle
thing is you are going to need for play PvE if you want to progress PvP
when you focus solely on pvp first you're going to gimp your pve progress
such as focusing on your resources for getting pvp items instead of things for pve
gentle trench
True, getting 1.5CP gonna be quite the challenge already
echo tangle
you need to do your dailies weeklies and farm
have you been doing your rigomor daily and henir weekly?
and rosso raid weekly and lots of other stuff
gentle trench
Rigomor daily is titans grotto?
Henir is time and space challenge mode?
Rosso raid idk yet what that is haha…..
echo tangle
Rigomor daily = clear any rigomor dungeon 5 times or 15 times for weekly
check your quests
gentle trench
Oh like that
gentle trench
I think I finished it on accident yeah
echo tangle
Henir is henir's time and space normal + challenge
and rosso raid is the Raid dungeons in Varnimyr region
gentle trench
Ah for undying etc?
I wanna do it but I dont have a party, and I dont think I can solo with 500k cp right?
gentle trench
Oh nice
Maybe I should try making a party, didnt see one when I looked
What dailies are good?
echo tangle
right now the important one for you to do is Rigomor
but Heroics and Secret Dungeons are also fine to do around your level
gentle trench
I dont see any rigomor on daily or weekly
echo tangle
have you already cleared 5 rigomor dungeons today?
gentle trench
I thought it was yesterday but maybe Im mistaken
gentle trench
So rigomor daily to craft amethyst prophecy, henir for force upgrade slot?
Oh stone I misread
echo tangle
to craft armor henir to upgrade a force
rigo to craft armor
henir to upgrade a force
It's recommended that your work on upgrading Head Hunter force
if you do not have one then buy one off the board
the lowest rarity one one is usually under a 100m
echo tangle
yeah
you'll have to ask someone who knows CC
but if you want to support better then Sage is a good one to get
gentle trench
Guess Im going to need to watch some videos on this
gentle trench
Wasnt there another armor then amethystine aswell
echo tangle
Sage and Crimson are the only ones that matter
well Ceru does too but it depends on your class
echo tangle
Tenebrous yeah its the set you make after you finish Rigo
and reached tirnog
which you need 3m CP to do
or 2.8m CP
gentle trench
I cant skip amethystine and buy clean tenebrous?
echo tangle
you see +0 pieces because they either have bad effects or unidentified
gentle trench
But amethystine will be useless after getting rigo right?
echo tangle
and you don't even have the CP to enter tirnog so you can't reforge it
Amethystine IS rigo
fiery lionBOT
Undefeated#2424 has been warned
gentle trench
Oh damn
gentle trench
Alright! XD
echo tangle
trying to "skip" to tenebrous isnt something you do
unless you have billions of ED (or money) to spend
gentle trench
How much billions are we talking
mystic elbow
@gentle trench see if u can get at least reforge 9 rigo
Then just enhance it to +8 for now
mystic elbow
I would advise against a pvp page
This is bad advice
mystic elbow
How do you guys put ERP?
PvE
100/100 exp
-> 100/100 -mp?
PvP
100/100 -mp
->5...
Sorry for double ping.
PvE you’ll want to make your cp as high as possible as a support. So yes ASD then iirc for making CP in general higher go polarize and boss dmg
You NEED a pvp page to be able to pvp effectively
EXP/IDR will have to wait
Those will be on a third page
You’re a pvp main that has to balloon their cp up to get into berthe so things like exp/idr is like 3rd option
For pvp order of importance is MP Cost -> HP -> Elemental Resist -> MP +2 then anything else I guess
Most important ones is MP Cost, HP and Elemental Resist
So 200 ERP
For MP +2 you need 250
iirc u get a free erp page from a quest
And you’ll level up quite a bit from getting to 1.5mil and again from berthe stages
gentle trench
Bruh I have 630.800CP with 100 points in exp and 23 in skill dmg, 630.450CP with 100 in -mp and 23 in HP with my PvE build
But when I have my pvp built on 100 -mp 23 +hp I have 400.000CP and with the 100exp and skill dmg 410.600CP
gentle trench
iirc u get a free erp page from a quest
Oh pog
Thanks for the in depth explanation again ^^
mystic elbow
123 ERP then?
If u want u can reset the 100 points in exp and put it into skill dmg
gentle trench
Should I get 10 crit instead?
mystic elbow
Oh
Always go for 5% Physical Attack Power or +6 Physical Attack Level
If you’re using Refined then iirc the numbers are 3% Physical Attack Power and +4 Physical Attack Level
+500 Physical Attack Power isnt good
gentle trench
Gotcha
Should I get physical attack level +1 on the others?
Or keep the base disk ones 1-5?
gentle trench
Ah theres one disk that gives +3 levels
mystic elbow
Replace those
I dont think u need to replace anything on the yellow one
Its optional, but u can replace Yellow Stage 3
If its dungeon only
gentle trench
Always go for 5% Physical Attack Power or +6 Physical Attack Level
Both equally good?
😄
gentle trench
Replace those
Thanks!
+1% magical attack power good?
I think my shots and skills use magic attack
mystic elbow
Yes!
mystic elbow
+1% magical attack power good?
Its good if your a mag character
Since CC is physical he has no use for mag stats
gentle trench
How much better is 1% crit dmg vs 3% normal crit?
mystic elbow
Well technically crit because u cant do anything with crit dmg without having crit itself
With reds go for phys attack level
gentle trench
Im already 100% crit >.<
mystic elbow
Blue phys attack power
gentle trench
Alright 🙂
mystic elbow
1.5% crit dmg gives me more CP then 1% phys att lvl 🤔
Bc u have a lot of crit
Too much crit
gentle trench
Too much yeah?
How about maximize?
Im indeed 87.5 crit and a 10% crit passive
I used a bunch of the shining dual crit -mp magic stones
I also have 2x12 on my elpheus wel and 6 on hair and top I wanna replace for crit -mp but I might switch IB still so I guess I keep the stones
I think I put shining dual on wep and IB wep, because I think its most beneficial? -2% for 5crit is pretty sweet. Then I just gotta make sure to get some maximize on my spar and 5/5
If Im right most people run 75% maximize +/- right?
gentle trench
Im at 78% and my crit is 87%+10%, and I will get another 22.5% crit from my sparring gear, so I guess I can get some sage action speed to be 125-127% and some shining dual acceleration for move and jump?
Whats red 3&4?
Oh my bad
Gotcha
mystic elbow
Im just curious whats your el collection
mystic elbow
Ya
gentle trench
How bad is the quest? XD I have enough kc left to p2w myself out of this one
I got like a lvl 75 70 and a 60 I think
99 71 70 70 69 56 50 49 48 45 43 40
Some were from events I think
mystic elbow
Level all those characters
gentle trench
What dungeon would be optimal to run for this? I could do an elrianode one to get the guardian of elrianode title or I could speedrun it PvP style by doing shrine of the two headed serpent and I believe the drops are also pretty okay?
gentle trench
Its only 20m in ED Shop
ED shop means board?
gentle trench
Oh seems like its EP?
gentle trench
I cant find it
mystic elbow
Ill take a screenshot when I get home
gentle trench
Found it
Thats gonna be like 35-45 quests xD
Hmmm 350kc not too bad, but Im not ready for berthe yet and will get the points regardless I guess hmmmmm
mystic elbow
You get points from leveling
gentle trench
Is guardian of elrianode better then eclipse?
gentle trench
You get points from leveling
Oh pog
mystic elbow
Is guardian of elrianode better then eclipse?
For me personally yea
But its more of what youre looking for
Guardian of Elrianode is for dmg
Eclipse for defense/res
gentle trench
I dont like res, but thats a irrational decision xD
mystic elbow
Most ppl have undying so the res is kinda meh anyway
gentle trench
Gotcha ^^
gentle trench
Can I transfer my +11 void to VoS? Like will I get a +10 vos in return or should I dismantle my void for a chance to get a amulet? (I think it worked like that?)
heavy spear
we've had this discussion before, but if i'm at ~330k cp in +9 elris and a +10 void
the first thing i should be focusing on is getting a rigo set, right?
also i found a video of a guy doing decent dmg (pvp) with dem lol
and he seems to use nether shredder a lot less and dem's other tools a lot more
heavy spear
my plan is to wait for an event that gives a free vos
and no, never had one
mystic elbow
Go get rigo then yes
heavy spear
tbh i feel more attached to my luciel than my AD, even though AD is so much better in pvp
heavy spear
if i end up liking dem (and i can go for the class switch now), i'll probably focus on gearing them before my AD
mystic elbow
Gearing up DeM will probably be easier bc DeM is loved
heavy spear
should i be xdropping as lu? i don't see them xdrop much so i assume no
empty ore
Dont X drop
heavy spear
does her xdrop not reduce kd then?
heavy spear
switching to dem
empty ore
heavy spear
ooooh
yeah, it was my assumption that frequent switching would be more efficient than xdrop lol
gentle trench
Lmao got FoJ
Literally day 1
I remember 300 runs for void weapon
How bad is VoS droprate?
gentle trench
Elrianode is too weak to skip Rigo with
How much CP do u need to skip rigo?
gentle trench
Yeah not gonna happen on elrianode lol
gentle trench
+13 foj? XD
mystic elbow
I did it with +11
fiery lionBOT
Undefeated#2424 has been warned
gentle trench
I dont recommend dismantling any weap
What to do with it tho?
mystic elbow
keep it
gentle trench
Once I have VoS
mystic elbow
recently we had a tournament that capped at void
gentle trench
Oh 😮
mystic elbow
ya
gentle trench
Mean xD
gentle trench
Pain ;c
mystic elbow
Yeah u can only reset twice
oblique sundial
does her xdrop not reduce kd then?
adds 10 kd iirc, just do zzx if youre going to dem
in the corner you can loop just the launch part of it, super braindead and ruins mana breaks
mystic elbow
Why 😭
Its pvp too
For Circlet you’d want double maxi 20-24%
And MP Cost 5% Spirit Stone Effect
For armor you’ll want double dmg red 20-24%
You can probably just do another dmg red on Spirit Stone Effect
Necklace you’ll want whatever as the effect
But then the skill type you’re stacking. So if you’re stacking a bravery like Nova for CC
You’ll want a bravery 5% on Spirit Stone Effect
For rings you’ll want crit dmg 7-10%
And phys/mag attack power on stone effect
fiery lionBOT
Undefeated#2424 has been warned
dusk dock
For armor you’ll want double dmg red 20-24%
Tfw I stack HP on my artifact armor
gentle trench
Sounds op as fug
gentle trench
I dont think I can equip anything
I have this little guy flying behind me
But no tab etc for it yet I think
gentle trench
Artifact gear drops from those pvp bosses?
gentle trench
They require artifact gear
Yeah I dont have any yet but I dont think Im allowed to equip em yet either
dusk dock
Cant remember but you can always buy them from board
abstract yacht
Artifacts are not PvP related.
They dont drop from PvP NPCs nor Dimension Sinister, if either is what you refer with "PvP bosses"
unless you name Master Roads "PvP bosses" which kinda feels weird but I can see why I suppose-
mystic elbow
Tfw I stack HP on my artifact armor
Thats also an option
abstract yacht
speaking of HP
I have a question
I never understood HP's socket "(Max. 50% of HP)" like
how am I supposed to tell when have I capped?
you give me a % cap but the socket is in flat values
mystic elbow
You’ll be capped when the hp stat no longer goes up
dusk dock
Sounds like a whale issue
oblique sundial
hey now its a luciel issue too :(
heavy spear
dem first impressions:
lu zx does all the work for me in neutral and it's so funny
most people are too laggy for me to zzx (this may be a skill issue)
ciel's xxxzx is super leaky
i wish lu had a clearing skill in pve
heavy spear
well regardless i don't think i'm climbing tonight
there's a gen in queue and i literally can't do anything against him
oblique sundial
unfortunately
oblique sundial
Idk it's not a terrible matchup, rise up costs nothing
And the little stem thing from swamp ruins the tracking on a lot of homing moves so I'd assume it works the same with his new mod
Actually kind of curious about whether or not mod rise up is an upgrade now
gentle trench
El tower defense doesnt give any exp?
Also whats the best way to speedrun it?
- gate of darkness
- que
- fighter potion
- after finishing f8? Or wait que again
gentle trench
How much ED are those per hour xD
gentle trench
I guess I could try to make a party find channel here
heavy spear
oh wow, i would love to have mod rise up
empty ore
Also whats the best way to speedrun it?
1) gate of darkness
2) que
3) fighter p...
- God
- Rosso Calamity Wheel
- Grab a buddy or rando
- Use the timed Guardian of Secret Closed Space
- Spam runs
gentle trench
Whats 1 and 4?
mystic elbow
Gate of Darkness
And 4 is a title
U can get the temp one from professor phoru tab
gentle trench
Oh gotcha
Sweet! Ty
If I que and wait I also get stronger then auto start right?
rich quail
Yep.
empty ore
Yeah but doing that is slow as molasses
gentle trench
But its a noticeable difference right? i feel like it was pretty much break even
Nice got the title 😄
Its really good
rich quail
Congrats.
gentle trench
50/150 for guardian title 😮💨
It sucks but I cant complain knowing people done this 3-4 years ago
And I solo in 1.5-3min
Also at 95/100 for the ERP setting, gonna give me atleast 100k CP extra so were getting near the 1M ^^
mystic elbow
yeah I ran that dungeon 1000 times for title
gentle trench
It was 1000 back then?
I kinda remember something crazy like that
I didnt even try it
gentle trench
Ah maybe when I came again it was 300
Sheesh
Poor u
I did 300 for void, put +11 amu and dipped
If only I saved my amu ;-; I literally quit a week later I think
fiery lionBOT
Arkie#1756 has been warned
empty ore
I did that poop twice
mystic elbow
who tagged me
empty ore
ne
mystic elbow
wot u say
gentle trench
Uhh, why is there a vos weapon cube in the story mode rewards of altar of invocation?
Does that mean I can get VoS with only 750k CP?
gentle trench
mystic elbow
💀
mystic elbow
find a party first yeah
mystic elbow
heavy spear
i beat her twice now and she's salty
i question how geared she was considering i wasnt doing a lot of dmg to her neither was she doing a lot to me
"imagine running and spamming a Trans class holy sht"
that's rich coming from an aisha
gentle trench
Doesnt ur weapon scale with ur job too
gentle trench
that's rich coming from an aisha
Whahaha
gentle trench
Doesnt ur weapon scale with ur job too
Like the attack power
heavy spear
she probably meant 4th path
gentle trench
Yeah xD
heavy spear
i just whispered back "i respect you" because props for sticking to VP
gentle trench
Yeah its pretty cool
Gives us all a good feeling
Just checked Oz design and Im not a big fan
IP>CC isnt too bad
What really bothers me tho is that I have to wear a hat if I wanna use AA 4/5 and aurora mustika hair because all korean games just changed to pastel colors
Theres pastel blue in the hair
I love this hair but why did they have to change the colors ;v
Sorry for the blurry screen pics, would be better with a screenshot but I dont have any editing program on my pc and also no discord
heavy spear
woah i just got beat by a CrA too
empty ore
"imagine running and spamming a Trans class holy sht"
Imaging gaslighting people. You chose to play a trans VP, you're complaining about a problem you made.
People are funny like that
heavy spear
reminds me of the person who told me mana breaking is cheating
abstract yacht
so, Havent been able to play Els due to well uh PC dead
How's it been with Genesis' stupid Chasing Prey mod :^)
just as stupid as I imagined?
willow mural
so, Havent been able to play Els due to well uh PC dead
How's it been with Gene...
😏
abstract yacht
💀
man doesnt even stay next to you
man just hits, doesn't elaborate further and leaves 💀
willow mural
it only needs 80 mp, maybe even lower cuz mpr
also the cooldown is laughable
u can mb and hell catch u again
abstract yacht
It's so...
It's not that it's surprising; but it's... how to say, how do you manage to make the same dumb thing
for the 3rd time and still think it's okay, KoG.
abstract yacht
Mod Maximum Dive.
Literally nerfed to the ground because it was breaking PvP
also KoG: lets make chasing prey 🤦♂️
willow mural
let make chasing prey again but more broken
abstract yacht
You can even monke key mash the hell out of it
cuz pressing it without targetable enemy doesnt cast the skill
literally safe as hell to just smash it 💀
heavy spear
i couldn't climb at all last night cause a gen was in queue :)
willow mural
just nerf the range and have both adre and gen cast the skill even if a target isnt in sight
there
abstract yacht
Besides the obvious dumb range;
If it could be casted without target within range that would be a good way to tone it down
cuz that at least would force players to have awareness of where u are at before using it
but noooo
only usable if someone is in range
mystic elbow
"imagine running and spamming a Trans class holy sht"
huh? IGN?
willow mural
they did say they were gonna release a pvp only balance soon
abstract yacht
Yeah uh I dont have hopes for that.
willow mural
they have a bad track record with that, but even the biggest pvp noob can tell whats broken
mystic elbow
pvp balance should include the deletion of skills 
mystic elbow
they have a bad track record with that, but even the biggest pvp noob can tell w...
believe it or not
the rly cant
even ppl who've played this game for years
will say with their entire chest
"CA isn't as bad as ppl think"
willow mural
i mean stuff like chasing prey and chasing prey 2
abstract yacht
Whenever they balance PvP things
3 things happen:
1: nothing of value changes
2: broken things eat dirt to the point is worthless
3: new broken stuff rise up to the same level as the nerfed things prior said nerf.
willow mural
🧢
abstract yacht
💀
mystic elbow
I recently fought a DA that basically said DA was balanced
willow mural
goofy
mystic elbow
lemme cross out names b4 I get banned from server
abstract yacht
immediately tracks only if theres smn in range, making it absolutely broken to just blindly spam it
instant gap closer with instant hitbox
cheap
low CD
okay maybe the vertical Hitscan is a litle bit weird but 💀
chasing prey not great?
willow mural
not to mention the super armor dives
those should be nerfed to be just like fb's
only get super armor when you land on the floor
that way i can catch you with explosive fist 
abstract yacht
also good delay too
in the case u chasing prey smn in super armor u can immediately just dip or counteract cuz delay is sufficient to do so
mystic elbow
abstract yacht
DA sucks until he can slap that oracle
but that suck part doesn't matter when the broken part flips the game immediately 💀
heavy spear
dear diary i beat a laby for the first time
i abused dem triple jump
which is kinda dumb tbh
mystic elbow
noiceee
abstract yacht
His ZZZX breaks (in a bad way) because he naturally has high aspd
doesnt rly have much KD decrease tools and besides ^X his commands' KD rates are bad
almost no skill is good for chasing in neutral besides pulling light and split light
Pulling light is nice but gets predictable the more you fight against DAs considering the range is literally right in front of him. well, it works for instant catches in small places like wally rooftop
Split Light do be a nice tool tho
aerial movement good to maneuver but really not great for chasing, he got no good follow ups after aerial moves.
can make the opponent panic I guess.
at best he can create a safe zone around himself with the bubble commands which is nice altho I personally don't like that, I ain't the kind of player who just waits for the other to come to me, I'm in PvP to smack or get smacked not to play hide and seek. stalling is trash
ZX good distance coverage with super armor but also easily avoidable, hardly has a hitbox and he has little to no tool to follow up cuz as I said earlier most of his tools dont really work for chasing, sure it gives the opponent a hard time to see an opening but also there's basically no interaction, do you consider that good? you're not catching anything he's not catching anything what is it good other than to show presence of "ey I'm right here" it's basically an afk match with extra steps
I mean unless you fumble and fall into it by accident but I'm not gonna consider accidental mistakes to say smth is good cuz that applies to basically anything.
Whatever freeze cheese you guys talked me about weeks or months ago, Im not mentioning it either cuz literally never seen any DA do that ever so I have no opinion on that matter
prhaps brave cover is good for 2's Idk
Out of my 1's experience, since I don't play 2's, not just as a DA but also fighting DAs; most of DA tools rly don't work much for its environment relatively to most classes out there.
Maybe they do in 2's but since I don't play 2's, nothing Im saying here applies for there.
like bruh I fought a star DA with my trashy newly made BlM and it was so easy to win against him in neutral
I just lost because well not a geared BlM, vs a stacked DA so he could just tank my [__] and then oracle insta kill
like maybe yeah he doesnt suck in 2s
in 1 tho no, his neutral is very mediocre
he just can outweight that mediocre-ness by having a really dumb nuke with the size of the sun and lingers like the stench of a public bathroom
oblique sundial
Lol
clever sigil
I am not a laggy RV
Your name looks familiar. Do you have a ES?
I like your skillz if so.
Also I hope that RV Isnt me.-.
knotty kraken
they should make all these teleport skills like unmod smash
is the opponent moving?
if yes: whiff
mystic elbow
His ZZZX breaks (in a bad way) because he naturally has high aspd
doesnt rly hav...
A lot of this sounds like pure skill issue. I've never seen any DA player have a problem with KD. Especially because most ppl will mana break bc they're afraid of you getting mana. No skill for chasing? You literally have a homing active. If Pulling Light is becoming predictable it's a product of your own making. Meaning, the skill isn't predictable, you are. Pulling Light will always be a good oki tool for DAs to use. Of course against other DAs it's gonna be worse to use because that's how it is in general in mirror matches. But against other characters? that tool is busted. A lot of this message is personal gripe and skill issues you're having on the character. No other DA has issues like the ones you're talking about. Yes it's good because as long as you're hitting someone you're getting mana for it. Meaning, even though it's not a full combo. You're still getting mana for it.
His neutral is nowhere near mediocre
Mediocre neutrals are characters like FL, OM, and SU
DA has SA and good movement
Just because it's "easily avoidable" doesn't mean it's not oppressive. Like I could run away from ADs dives the entire match does that make it not oppressive round start? DAs >>ZX is still oppressive if you're playing a more human character
As I said, a lot of this is your personal gripe and has nothing to do with the character itself.
heavy spear
does dem's freezy spear thing not freeze kd? cause it doesn't seem like it for me
mystic elbow
Not wot
heavy spear
i thought it'd be a tool for extending a combo when they're close to KDing
glass echo
Your name looks familiar. Do you have a ES?
I like your skillz if so.
Also I ...
They do have an ES (I'm in the same guild)
mystic elbow
They do have an ES (I'm in the same guild)
glass echo
I'm just letting them know 🥺
abstract yacht
A lot of this sounds like pure skill issue. I've never seen any DA player have a...
If you wanna go siege sure he doesnt have KD issues but his commands dont rly loop while making dmg like FP, and most also feed MP unless u go the ^X way, which is... just base Chung gameplay rather than DA, that's just any chung who can do so
Yeah Pulling Light is a good skill I said that, other than that? no
even Pulling Light can be countered at times because if it doesnt hit it only splits at the end, which, takes a long time to do so, on top of that the balls dont have much tracking range backwards, so just crossing the projectile can, 90% make you avoid it, I'v done so maaaany times
Im saying this not from just playing DA, but also from fighting DAs, legit fighting DA is easy for me, the only bad thing is most of my alts lack dmg so most DA can just tank me through then burst me out, outside of nuking? he's a joke to me.
Pulling Light is predictable and easy to bait out too
It's also contestable considering a lot of classes have long super armors, I mean well I play EtW so I suppose shouldn't be a surprise I contest it (but srsly a lot of classes can contest it)
ZX doesnt give an openin
okay
alright
but he can't stop the dash, well he can but the stop is a little late on, which you still have to dash a certain length
knowing that? when I see DAs spam that command, outside of my main; I just spam >>^X on Laby or >>^XXZ on BlM or even just wait him out on a side with ES' >>XX~
If they only know >>ZX, ES' >>XX will easily catch themfor being stupid
and while sure as I said before u may not see opportunity to catch him due to super armor, doesnt mean he's invincible, >>^X of Laby chips him out while he can't react against it (or can even take advantage of client side and gain MP for urself without giving him any) because he's locked to the dash animation
and >>^XXZ of BlM on top of the same reason as Laby, is also super armor and moves you through so crossing his dash with BlM's movement is both chip dmg on top of moving to safety and with his dash having no big hitbox he can only eat it up
He has little to no control over the dash once input'd, outside of oracle/riveret lingeringso long you'd still get hit even if iframed; I rly don't have issues fighting DA unlike AD or RV who one has thick and lingering hitboxes on top of her 24/7 SA where even at her (very short) vulnerable frames she still has safety and an instant gap closer while the other has a controllable super armor, gap closer and range tool all in one command on top of having a [crunch n munch] but as a tenacity
like if u run away from AD? she can actually chase you down because chasing prey, that double shockwave Idk Red something
RV commands have insane range in itself
DA? if u run from DA, what is he gonna do? toss split light and pray it does smth, cuz he rly doesnt have that much else to chase in neutral
willow mural
does dem's freezy spear thing not freeze kd? cause it doesn't seem like it for m...
its easier when theyre frozen in air tbh
cuz if theyre on the ground, chances are, theyre gonna fall as soon as the freeze ends
when theyre in the air u can spam lu zxxx
heavy spear
yeah i noticed that
willow mural
or u can place swamp under em
heavy spear
but for me it's like, i freeze them and start hitting them and they stop taking damage while still frozen as if i'd reached kd limit
so either it doesn't freeze kd or i'm doing it wrong
willow mural
im pretty sure they still take kd
when i was fighting a daybreaker and shed freeze be, shed try her best to one shot me cuz as soon as that freeze ended i kd
heavy spear
sounds like it's better used when i first catch em instead of before i reach kd limit
willow mural
i think itd be best to use it right after u lay down swamp so u can get as much cp as possible for soul infest
heavy spear
also is it a skill issue that i find some players too laggy for me to consistently zzx them
sometimes the x doesn't even land
oblique sundial
i thought it'd be a tool for extending a combo when they're close to KDing
Launch and spam <>x into it and you'll occasionally catch
Or just use evil claw
willow mural
ouch my pvp aint as fancy as i want it to be >=T
gentle trench
Is it true that we cant get HP on artifact additional effect? Should we get crit/maximize instead?
Oh thats circlet, I see the armor can get HP
Oh but 8% dmg reduction>17k hp right
willow mural
im way too reliant on wing and i feel like my combos arent doing enough
empty ore
@willow mural I can see I had you in a match. But I afked in que too long. mb
abstract yacht
Oh but 8% dmg reduction>17k hp right
generally yes but if u got a lot of dmg red already could always go with HP I suppose
willow mural
no prob
gentle trench
Should I get:
Artifact ring = 2x4% crit dmg and 2% physical attack?
Armor dmg reduction 2x12% and 8%
Circlet crit/max 12% and -5% mp?
abstract yacht
I believe the mpr from stones is Dungeon only so I dont think that one matters
gentle trench
:c
abstract yacht
oh, seems it isn't if wiki isnt lying to me
but if you strictly want to make your artifacts strictly for PvP, then I guess yeah thats the gist of it
willow mural
im playing so badly today 😔
gentle trench
Cool ^^
gentle trench
:c
knotty kraken
im burnt on pvp i think
:pat:
gentle trench
I think im 84% maximize and cap damage reduction after artifacts wth? I already maxed my crit ☠️
Guess I socket everything with shining dual crit&-mp
abstract yacht
Maxed crit on stats or with passives
gentle trench
With 10% passive
gentle trench
I think im 84% maximize and cap damage reduction after artifacts wth? I already ...
Also -26% mp already jesus
atomic marsh
Your name looks familiar. Do you have a ES?
I like your skillz if so.
Also I ...
Yes I do have an ES
heavy spear
i just fought a gen that only approached with mod persistent rush
it was a wild ride
heavy spear
s
atomic marsh
Nvm now I'm fighting an RV
Ugh
Fun character 💀
I think I might've found your GN
Yotari?
They only used it once against me so maybe not them
Oh boy, now there're laggy Nishas in queue
heavy spear
Yotari?
aye
i float between 30%-40% in S and i probably won't get any further until i get better gear lol
atomic marsh
Watch out for this Nisha named Nsha
fiery lionBOT
Numbers#7005 has been warned
atomic marsh
Very laggy