melting point is the fakest move ever
#pvp
echo tangle
oblique sundial
was that you
oblique sundial
heres the first lesson for aisha
if you play lame enough, you can beat almost anyone
echo tangle
I need to learn the art of lame
heavy spear
melting point was why i was considering making a LA
but i'm way too aggro to play lame
so i picked AD
echo tangle
I should probably get more speed + HP right?
willow mural
whats your aspd?
echo tangle
119.5%
willow mural
hp definitely
idk how reliant aisha is on speeds cuz teleport exists, but there are a couple of theme here
mystic elbow
what to invest in pvp after cdr mpr hp mp res
idk cdr
heavy spear
how good is twilight? not that i'd make one but i dont see her a lot
willow mural
i have cdr
mystic elbow
then whatever u want
mystic elbow
how good is twilight? not that i'd make one but i dont see her a lot
she's pretty okay
the other rena's are better
so not many rly play her
empty ore
how good is twilight? not that i'd make one but i dont see her a lot
Really good with gear. All of her buttons can do mad damage thanks to predator passive. KD issues are her fault but she makes up for it with good mp gain.
empty ore
idk how reliant aisha is on speeds cuz teleport exists, but there are a couple o...
You need jump speed more than anything. Because it affects the height* of your teleport. And the range of your >>ZX command
abstract yacht
Melting point lasts a lot and it always inflict hitstun
so unless someone can drag you out of your camping zone or has an iron body
you're unapproachable
if the map has a curve then even better to "counter" projectiles
It's impressive how KoG managed to give all 4 Aishas tools to play the lame way but also little to no tools to actually play like a normal character
willow mural
ooh, thanks for the info!
heavy spear
long ago, when level cap was 70ish, i reached SSS as a lv50ish night watcher solely because of skill notes
the one that made one of her traps ignore defense
echo tangle
ok tried aisha so far but my gameplan needs help
mystic elbow
can u record your matches
mystic elbow
im not that good with aisha yet but arkie is a pr0 n can prolly help
abstract yacht
Oz can spam her XX... uh... vX???
Idk
the one where she just stands in place summoning angkors
abstract yacht
legit stupid and effective
empty ore
XXvX~X
abstract yacht
its a hold-able super armor so you can control how long it stays or if u need to go out safely while also creating several tracking hitstunning bats
empty ore
Its dumb yes, great for pressuring and keeping people away
But now that I have the experince of using bats I can say this
abstract yacht
like you can camp with that
its an annoyancr
empty ore
Any time she is using bats is time shes not charging.
abstract yacht
uhhh
empty ore
Had to fix that
abstract yacht
does she need that when she gains like 4 mp per sec while awakened
abstract yacht
far as I can tell from the Oz I fought yday the bats dont consume that much either
I'd get near she'd use it and her mana like
didnt rly look like it was going down
empty ore
Ideally you do the command to cast one bat to scare people away.
I forgot what class you play, but there are gaps for you to get in.
abstract yacht
currently as a DA I have little to no options to get to her
because DA has no projectiles and no viable super armor either
ZX has super armor but is not reliable for a face to face
abstract yacht
most cases also she always had mana to counteract with mod ring of darkness
empty ore
Even if you think you have no options. There are definitely ways to catch a camping Oz, let alone aisha
abstract yacht
as little mp as it looked it was always enough to cast that thing
empty ore
Its a game of patience. Even if you arent getting a catch you must make the Aisha move.
empty ore
That is true Mocaff
abstract yacht
in a battle of Aishas AeS outright wins because of meditation advantage
celest ore
aes and oz are broken in the same way blm's damage is broken
and by that i mean literally just not tested in pvp
or at least i assume
mystic elbow
AeS and Oz are stuck in a cycle of being buffed to oblivion then nerfed
nerfed part has yet to come
we must wait
abstract yacht
MtM is also an annoyance
girl has like 3 pull skills that are cheap as hell but has the size of a pancake
mystic elbow
abstract yacht
Ik a pancake is small but Im using it as big in this case
celest ore
mtm is annoying too yeah
abstract yacht
I just didnt seem it fitting to say black hole
empty ore
MtM is also an annoyance
girl has like 3 pull skills that are cheap as hell but...
Energy ring is one of the strongest actives in the game
celest ore
aes and oz are broken in the same way blm's damage is broken
i have a theory that blms are so rare in kr they just
don't know
idk if its true but offer me up a better explanation
empty ore
Im sure they know
celest ore
like i dont think anyone in charge of development would let her keep that damage if they knew about it so i assume they dont know about it
๐
abstract yacht
How is RH not annoying
well when u face RHs like these...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006998502942982245/1076832728332386416/bandicam_2023-02-19_05-11-27-942.mp4
mystic elbow
well there's quite a few characters that are near or have the same damage
abstract yacht
You dont build hatred for them ๐
empty ore
Like her damage is disgusting but her damage is more mana breakable due to Rose guns having an extra hit for no reason.
celest ore
well there's quite a few characters that are near or have the same damage
grand master before they turned her sword into a feather
mystic elbow
I don't hate RH as a character
but with the amount of complaining Raven players do in general
Makes me find fighting him annoying
abstract yacht
Like her damage is disgusting but her damage is more mana breakable due to Rose ...
I feel this is only rly the case for PO
but thats why some POs build hard on plgue IV
cuz BlM can yeet 60% of your HP in 3 XXX loops
and thats barely feeding you like 70 MP
celest ore
oh yeah blm doesnt even feed
empty ore
PO despite everything is one of the more flawed classes in this game
celest ore
she just kills
mystic elbow
It's not necessarily that
empty ore
Yeah you got battleroid
mystic elbow
it's that she does so much damage that you get no mp in comparison
to the hp u lost
undergeared blm would feed a lot more
abstract yacht
Hmmm I love losing 70% of my HP with barely any MP to break that she quite literally would drop me before I could mb
abstract yacht
mystic elbow
ah yes
celest ore
nah bro average random blm you've never seen before in arena hits like a vos KE
mystic elbow
a command dmg char with a nuke..
mystic elbow
huh..
abstract yacht
BlM MHS is like
okay
it does 3k% on its own
but then it has 50% chance to double dmg
mystic elbow
okay? 
heavy spear
i've yet to win against an AeS (but that's probably a skill issue for me)
mystic elbow
have u ever seen hayai use that dang as skill
abstract yacht
so u can just get 6k%
.
mystic elbow
I have yet to recover
abstract yacht
the base value is fine if we compare it to most nuking skills that go around 4-5k
it's the sheer fact that it has a 50/50 to go up to 6k%
celest ore
i mean the damage values on some things just straight up dont make sense
abstract yacht
and be an absolute destroying skill
celest ore
to bring it up once again, mod blaze wing
abstract yacht
one time u get hit by mhs and survive and be like aite thats fine
then others u get the 6k% and u like
where my hp go
abstract yacht
it does happen sometimes to me but usually because of them using a diff nuke skill that others would generally use
like a GS I think 3 days ago used his MC
that hurted me like 70% HP and I was like
????? HELLO????
getting nuked by a normal skill thats just thursday
Man used MC and yeet my HP
bro I was emotionally damaged
celest ore
i imagine thats how people feel when i hit them with triple sonic ๐
haven't memed with that skill in a while i should do it again
heavy spear
y'know, aside from that laggy CE that was gatekeeping me earlier
is CE even good? i feel like once i get geared i can just pop her summons
oblique sundial
i've yet to win against an AeS (but that's probably a skill issue for me)
i wouldnt blame you aes is just broken
there is no win condition vs aes
mystic elbow
is CE even good? i feel like once i get geared i can just pop her summons
if she uses summons her only gameplay is outgearing people
if not then she just kinda oki's u to death
But she's ok in 1s
idk about 2s
heavy spear
there is no win condition vs aes
even as AD?!?!
celest ore
and sometimes they feed me 9 billion mp and i nuke them
oblique sundial
what is AD going to do about someone who stars the game with 100 mp
celest ore
oh aes is pure cheese lol
heavy spear
two(?) sources of stun > all of my stoic
abstract yacht
AeS just has a mana source without having to fight you
and not just from standing still
oblique sundial
she gets what
abstract yacht
so she can do whatev she wants
then come to you asnd stun you
and then u can't do anything back
oblique sundial
2.5 mp a second naturally or something 5 a second from thonk and then 10 from whatever
fireballs give her like a trillion mp a piece so if you get hit by a poke lol
celest ore
AeS just has a mana source without having to fight you
i like how if the aes is paying attention there isnt actually anything you can do about this if you roll cargo airship
and by like i mean hate
abstract yacht
I have that map banned cuz of that curve
fiery lionBOT
Arnold#1526 has been warned
pastel creek
Are all movement techs still doable on a mechanical keyboard
oblique sundial
your only chance is if youre on a tiny map like walleys rooftop and have godlike mobility
oblique sundial
Are all movement techs still doable on a mechanical keyboard
why would they not be
pastel creek
I dunno
oblique sundial
only thing ive had a harder time with is eve stepping and thats less because its a mechanical keyboard and more because of the keycaps
celest ore
i have that issue with stepping in general and again mostly because of keycaps
cherry profile works best for me in this game
oblique sundial
low profile keycaps are nice for this game
like the logitech g915 sucks as a keyboard but if the only game you play is elsword its great
celest ore
yeah low profile choc switches
there's some other keyboards with those now, i can't name em off the top of my head
couple from keychron idk
oblique sundial
theres a few cheaper ones
redragon made a weird laptop keyboard thing that i bought for memes
if the keycaps werent rubbery it probably would have been great for this game
celest ore
ewwww rubbery what'd they do that for lol
oblique sundial
only god knows
nah i think the most important thing for this game is not having ghosting and having n key rollover
if you dont have those things, rip your inputs
celest ore
you can get away with not having full n key but it highly depends on the board, it's weird and complicated
but for the most part yeah
oblique sundial
i tried playing this game on a netbook in like 2013 because babys first laptop
never again
celest ore
i cant even think of a good way to explain it 3am moment but yeah dropped inputs just due to trying to play a game is painful
some keyboards without full n key use some clever optimization trickery to reduce the likelihood of you noticing in a gaming scenario
which is actually kinda cool
mystic elbow
Are all movement techs still doable on a mechanical keyboard
As long as your keyboard doesn't ghost you should be able to do everything
celest ore
but no way to guarantee thats what you're gonna get
oblique sundial
you cant use macros
a one frame drop and everything stops working
totally havent tried
mystic elbow
celest ore
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celest ore
a one frame drop and everything stops working
funnily in the game where a nasa supercomputer can't avoid dropping frames
oblique sundial
unless you got one of them fancy ones that read the game or smth
but then youre probably gonna get banned frame one lul
mystic elbow
ogod that used to be annoying. the game closes out for absolutely no reason and u just see this ugly guy in a hat 
oblique sundial
xigncode got made that i had a fancy mp3 player open
oblique sundial
also gets mad if you try to play this game through wine or smth
celest ore
it does can confirm tried recently on steam deck
it does make it to the character select before it boots you now which is further than it got before tho
celest ore
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oblique sundial
two xeons and more ram than a ps4 has hard drive space and id still probably get frame drops
oblique sundial
Cinnebench is nothing
celest ore
want a home rack someday ๐
oblique sundial
The real stress test is silver tree
celest ore
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oblique sundial
Home server rack is cool but it's kind of a pain
Worth it if you're a super nerd
celest ore
i can't even entertain it currently anyway as things stand atm
internet too spotty for something to rely on
like it works but it has entire days of just being angry and i'd rather not
oblique sundial
I live in a commie town that decided to start their own isp
So I have gigabit fiber
oblique sundial
dude nobody wants to pay $100 for 70 mb/s
oblique sundial
i will gladly pay $70 for gigabit though
nah though server tower isnt worth it unless youre hosting like
skyrim together and minecraft servers for you and your friends
everything else its just a glorified space heater
celest ore
well rn i just pay for a dedi from a provider for such gaming purposes and other things
oblique sundial
with a 4000 watt power supply
celest ore
but yeah heat and power are real concerns too
also thought about colocation, maybe in the future
oblique sundial
idk what that is tbh
celest ore
tbh theres probably different terms for it but basically
you build a server and for x amount of dollars per year a datacenter will run it on their power, networking, etc.
celest ore
yeah ๐
oblique sundial
wdym
oblique sundial
skissue
oblique sundial
my raid slave is getting bullied D:
mystic elbow
Good!
mystic elbow
Not anything that interests me but I'll tag the vid
oblique sundial
thx
mystic elbow
oblique sundial
mod sparkly bs is gonna feed 18000020039 mp
oblique sundial
dont you have an essay to write
celest ore
dw ill mail you some more jellis when i get on tomorrow
mystic elbow
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oblique sundial
just make chatgpt write it
celest ore
if you want (please)
mystic elbow
Boy u rly.. thought I'd use chatgpt?
they have ways to detect if it was written by AI
mystic elbow
if you want (please)
Yes please
oblique sundial
yeh
oblique sundial
my teacher friend is about to fail half her class over it
oblique sundial
funny to me but probably not to the school
mystic elbow
half the class can't write an essay?
mystic elbow
It's not hard
oblique sundial
idk im not a 16 year old
celest ore
Yes please
i genuinely have too many like its causing problems for me and i'd rather do this than flood board
mystic elbow
instead
celest ore
ill give you as.many as you want
celest ore
alright
mystic elbow
my Ara's basically is
oblique sundial
oh god that reminds me i have to go back to school this fall
mystic elbow
oblique sundial
dont tell me what to do!
oblique sundial
what did i just say
mystic elbow
there u go
oblique sundial
abstract yacht
huh
how comes every char I use to PvP (Except main) aren't bravery focused 
how do I manage to casually pick the STR (or none) ones
I wanna share my brv ring to them too but neither of them have an use to it lmao
goes to BlM - fight an AD - she catches me - I make some trade offs (leave her HP at 80%)
frenzy is active, so I chase her
Awk into multi headshot
literally dead
me for the next 2 minutes:
visual horizon
goes to BlM - fight an AD - she catches me - I make some trade offs (leave her H...
LOL??
visual horizon
how comes every char I use to PvP (Except main) aren't bravery focused <:Finanan...
Mood.
Me finding out that MO nukes with either Serpent or Apprehension:
"So I need a Strength Ring now??"
full yoke
give nova pvp buffs
flame furry back
most champs have super armor on dashes
and we need anti air and runign tackitws
mystic elbow
huh sariels?
shooting dash is a boom
so if it's not working then you're either using it at horrendous times
or she's lagging and moving around during i-frame
full yoke
that could be it but shes had void wep no armor she was just sliping thoguh everything
my crow my awaking
and bursting blade
fiery lionBOT
Just salen's blanket#6626 has been warned
marsh plume
Me finding out that MO nukes with either Serpent or Apprehension:
MO runs fog
Stacking serpent is fine but it might get convoluted
Cuz that's ur range utility also
empty ore
icant find it sadly
find what
full yoke
Eve escaping from all of my iframes
dusk dock
people sure are kiting a lot more recently
full yoke
^
Nova got rid most of he's super armor dashes
While others do
He's air combat is 200 MP or the heating blast skill mod
Also raven has no double jump or dashes in the air aside revenant
He's core protection while awakening can be activated which stun hits you
Lots of cons
empty ore
Eve escaping from all of my iframes
You sure this player aint a lagger?
Also in 1s I get NI's catching game is like a B grade. If I were you i'd take advantage of the time she spends in SA firing lasers to >>^X air missle. Get that mp to maybe even dive. Hellfire is good for stalling out SA frames
empty ore
Also raven has no double jump or dashes in the air aside revenant
Synergy says hi you get a double jump.
celest ore
Synergy says hi you get a double jump.
^^^ i've been playing around with it
instinctual movement, highly recommend it to any ele/elboy/raven pvp mains who wanna meme hard
full yoke
1s?
She has auto targeting system it's a sariel
Also she flies high perma
Wait synergy gives double jump ? What do I need for it ?
Also it works on PvP?
He has no moves for mid air or fast moving super armor like most things have rn and he got nerfed for that meanwhile the others are bck
dusk dock
Honestly same. I always wonder which synergy gives double jump but since I'm an Add PvP main, I don't really need it tbh
Still hesitant about using my synergy tickets (I have a cumulative total of around 67 days+ of them)
full yoke
Yelpers it's hard to get or not
I don't remeber what I have to do to get the synergy effects
abstract yacht
Instinctual Movement.
KE FB ES.
a little bit harsh that these 3 characters (except their 4th path) need a synergy in order to get something others have by design (minus Aisha/Ain) but it is what it is
abstract yacht
Honestly same. I always wonder which synergy gives double jump but since I'm an ...
the synergy only provides double jump to Els, Raven and Elesis. no one else.
mystic elbow
Theyll be fine
In exchange they also get broken fourth paths that basically have a double jump
oblique sundial
Genesis is laby with a sword
willow mural
Man I hate fighting 4th paths
dusk dock
Same
oblique sundial
4th paths are the reason why network monitoring software exists
willow mural
How has KR not complained about this
Usually they bend over backwards when they make a fuss
abstract yacht
because they have more focus on PvE rn
there probably are some complaints here and there as per usual but ain't rly on people's major attention
willow mural
Biggest oversight ever
oblique sundial
Ravens nonexistent kd table
abstract yacht
They haven't even done anything since Reboot for PvP
major PvP change they did since then was the introduction of duelist armor and that only made things more brutal 
PvP is not a priority clearly
and that's kinda understandable considering most playerbase are PvE focused these days
willow mural
Which is true, but if ur gonna offer up anothe game mode that you often advertise and set up tournaments for, it should be way more balanced
visual horizon
Stop making me fight mpx
"VOID FIELD!!"
abstract yacht
"VOID FIELD!!"
2015 flashbacks
oblique sundial
Aisha 4th I'd garbage
echo tangle
visual horizon
I'm getting my kneecaps broken.
I guess this is the consequence of switching mains.
visual horizon
I'm so used to LB that I'm like "that's not what that command does anymore".
willow mural
Ik nothing is gonna happen but eh
visual horizon
Watch me get beaten by a Level 99 Transcendence character.
visual horizon
My nightmares are haunted by Adrestia.
And also this one DBr I keep running into and dying to.
abstract yacht
I lose a lot for being forgiving
visual horizon
It's him.
echo tangle
never show mercy! 
willow mural
I'm not abusing scaldic enough
abstract yacht
I dont abuse my nukes enough
visual horizon
What is this one skill.
The diagonal one.
That DBr has.
It's haunting me.
Also I straight up have no idea how to catch on MO. >^ZX is too predictable.
oblique sundial
i love when he breaks at zero then proceeds to use a 300 mp boom ecksdee so much fun
garbage character design
willow mural
Is she doom bringer or daybreaker...
abstract yacht
diagonal...?
Quake Buster?
kicks an energy diagonally downwards then it keeps moving forward when it hits ground
is it that?
solid socket
I honestly call daybreaker dab
visual horizon
He jumps in the air and then nukes you with a diagonal bolt of energy
solid socket
Because it's funny
visual horizon
I keep running into this "whitedeomon" guy.
And I keep getting my lunch handed to me.
This is almost as bad as when I kept running "Corsena" yesterday and had my dinner handed to me (they were an Adrestia).
Sobs.
I miss LB PvP but also I'm a Morpheus main now and I have to suffer through this to learn how he works.
solid socket
My take from fighting them is if >^zx is too predictable you can read your opponents movements and probably get something off of back door or whatever the skill was called or maybe if they're a class that dives a lot you could see them diving and use >^zx to counter it since they'd dive straight into your balls
It depends on the circumstance
visual horizon
NOT THIS GUY AGAIN
solid socket
Idt >^zx is a command you'd want to try to catch aggressively with but more of a counter to another aggressive attack like a dive or a dash if you see it coming
visual horizon
I give up.
I got caught once.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This is so frustrating oml.
visual horizon
I know he doesn't but gods this guy feels like he has infinite i-frames.
Like ???????
dusk dock
Stop making me fight mpx
Me
visual horizon
I hear the Awakening noise go off like every 3 seconds I wish I were joking.
oblique sundial
he could heal me instead of doing damage and id still hate him
abstract yacht
at least be gratetul DB doesnt have combo counter anymore
aka Statis Field when he could recast it even while being hit
dusk dock
Or when knocked down
abstract yacht
oblique sundial
im not grateful for anything theyve done to add
characters trash
boring and terrible or boring and god tier
dont care which
visual horizon
I hate it here.
oblique sundial
still aids
visual horizon
I just had my breakfast handed to me by the ApS that I beat earlier.
audible groan
dusk dock
There is no middle ground
visual horizon
If I encounter this DBr one more Ishmael-damned time I will throw my 1,000 USD laptop out the window.
(I'm joking ofc)
But GODS this is frustrating.
abstract yacht
I hate it here.
Fight him some more you may find understanding in him
DB doesnt have really good neutrals
he lacks a lot of super armor and the one he does is just a slow aaah dash
visual horizon
From S-Rank LB to B-Rank Morpheus woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Not again.
abstract yacht
Blaze Wings 
willow mural
Gottem
visual horizon
That's genuinely like that 8th time.
oblique sundial
i cant facetank him
visual horizon
I don't comm in Elsword.
Not even when it's required (i.e. Icerite)
Communication? Guilding? Nah bro I'm mute.
celest ore
a little bit harsh that these 3 characters (except their 4th path) need a synerg...
yeah i had the realization the other day that since i play a first path class i can set this up for basically free
since im gonna be using first path damage synergy anyway lol
willow mural
Idk how I get out of pvp
Maybe when I win enough
But this is a learning opportunity
It's all just mpx so might as well
visual horizon
I'm legit learning nothing other than ">>^ZX sucks as a catch, try something else" and so far the only thing that works is XZZ which is frankly, easy to counter simply by wearing super armour.
abstract yacht
Considering you changed to a class you have little knowledge about
I would rather take the matches with a grain of salt and rather experiment with different tools here and there and build knowledge to the advantages of each of your tools
oblique sundial
Idk how I get out of pvp
Simply uninstall the game
abstract yacht
Since learning another class is a lot different even if they're the same character
oblique sundial
And install a better game
willow mural
My FL is too cute
I gave her dog ears
They surprisingly blend in well with her hair
visual horizon
Me when I fight literally anyone today:
"Win 20 PvP matches" oh boy.
How embarrassing is it that I've only been able to win matches against people who aren't 3rd Job yet.
celest ore
damn ๐
visual horizon
How long is the essay supposed to be...?
oblique sundial
I have not slept
20mg melatonin 75mg diphenhydramine
mystic elbow
neerrrffff
oblique sundial
You will go to sleep
willow mural
O
LOL
I can wind against this guy granted I don't let him hit me too much
He has a super strong wep
celest ore
speaking of procs how you like my meme title
celest ore
not even surprised
visual horizon
I... was just beat by an Adrestia... who's not even Adrestia... idk what her 2nd Job is called.
But. Ow.
oblique sundial
Skill issue
willow mural
Bruh
visual horizon
Dude I have done nothing but lose since I started this. I think I'm just gonna stop for today.
visual horizon
Skill issue
Thanks. I really needed to hear that.
quits PvPing permanently
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oblique sundial
celest ore
double jump suits me so well im really glad i got this
i was worried i wouldn't like it
mystic elbow
o thanks again for jellies
celest ore
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mystic elbow
Why's SS queue live when im too tired to play it
willow mural
Barely awake
visual horizon
Aw, dude, right when you start working on your essay, too? That's rough.
willow mural
It's just me and this mpx
mystic elbow
I've been working on it since last night 
willow mural
Ugh I'm playing so badly
abstract yacht
still one of my most satisfying matches
solely for I was tossing airelinnas at questionable moments just for sake of set up but it paid off in the end
oblique sundial
I've been working on it since last night <:Bruhge:975536538723168266>
You deserve this for procrastinating
heavy spear
i'm going to try to stay away from pvp for now until i can gear up
i don't expect to be successful in that
mystic elbow
Actually I was so tired that I literally couldnt think of what to write
heavy spear
but i know that i'm likely not going to climb up past 50% into S even if i try my hardest
heavy spear
i do have pve quests to do until i hit a wall and can't progress until i get better gear
willow mural
Arena is something else
heavy spear
oh, i was mentioned
celest ore
but i know that i'm likely not going to climb up past 50% into S even if i try m...
if its too hard wait until this says like 20-14 days remaining
willow mural
I have great gear, but I'm still coping lol
celest ore
trust me works every time
heavy spear
whats that from
celest ore
heavy spear
o
celest ore
i hate s rank
heavy spear
i think i fought you yesterday
celest ore
probably
heavy spear
Corsena
celest ore
ive been pvping yesterday
heavy spear
i played WS and GrM/CrA in times of old
while i liked playing the latter two, i missed having a double jump
which, tbh, is much of the reason why i picked AD
aerial mobility is nice
celest ore
not to sound like a broken record but you might really like that instinctual movement synergy
heavy spear
dunno what that is, havent played since before 3rd jobs
celest ore
ohhh a true returning player
heavy spear
yesterday i fought someone who was still a blade master and his name was something like "we back in 2010"
and
i respect that.
celest ore
idk how to properly explain from zero what el search party collection is lol
basically you can register other characters from your account for buffs
and then you can further enhance that with certain combinations of characters https://elwiki.net/w/El_Search_Party_Collection
basically KE + FB + ES in synergy = elesis raven and elboy can double jump
dusk dock
https://youtu.be/rOe_E2i15z0
still one of my most satisfying matches
solely for...
Aint no way you did this twice and proceeded to nuke them while they were teleporting ๐
dusk dock
ohhh a true returning player
I have been mainly on and off but the last thing I remember before I came back was when Henir was able to done with a party
heavy spear
anemos being able to nuke like that is sooooorta the opposite of what i remember WS to be
i also hear that zz>zz is super leaky now too
celest ore
i dont think a single anemos player has been seen doing zz>zz in like 6 years
heavy spear
iirc NF used to enhance her kick hitboxes so if it doesn't anymore then yeah that makes sense
celest ore
oh idk much about rena actually i just know they don't do it anymore for whatever reason
abstract yacht
This was when Reboot was new so I was also just trying AN for the first time and just wanted to yeet smn with the newly changed dive kick bombing
AN these days actually use sharp fall, Gyro kick or low kick to nuke
dusk dock
Real
abstract yacht
the airelinna rly just look disrespectful on hindsight but I rly needed them to build call of the wind passive 
willow mural
I've been playing pvp for like 4 hrs
With no circlet on
I am the best pvp player of all time
glass echo
willow mural
hope u got it tested out then
mystic elbow
I did dw
empty ore
How has KR not complained about this
They have, for instance. there are so many complaints about nerfing DA on their balance board.
abstract yacht
and what they did
20 > 12s super armor and mostly because of PvE mainly :^)
oblique sundial
la >>zzxxx
willow mural
what would be better in pvp
phy atk power inc, ignore def, crit dmg, or asd ๐ค
i have a ton of these shards idk what to do with
willow mural
im leaning towards ignotre def
abstract yacht
what's this for
1st line of duelist?
empty ore
Ignore def is only good if the target has a lot of def
empty ore
Clean
mystic elbow
Huh
mystic elbow
Same
empty ore
Ive been there before
buttons just not working
when im pressing them and nothing else
oblique sundial
DA is cringe
mystic elbow
t r u e
willow mural
i feel so cool ๐
empty ore
Honestly he deserved that for that glitch
celest ore
i seriously love provoke fr
abstract yacht
nah, for artifact rings
as... far as I'm aware... Def ignore (stat) is a (Dungeon) strictly stat
oblique sundial
so many coins and nothing to do with them
empty ore
as... far as I'm aware... Def ignore (stat) is a (Dungeon) strictly stat
There are some cases you can get it and itll work in pvp. I.e imprinting
abstract yacht
well imprinting is not a stat though, it's a buff 
although well some imprints do also mention (Dungeon) ig but still
most sources of def ignore are (Dungeon) only and I'm sure artif is one of them too
full yoke
Why not get ASD on ring ?also this PvP do artifacts even help on PvP?
Ignore Def is better on PvP than pve
Many last stage mobs and boss don't even have defence
abstract yacht
just looked it up on wiki, yes the def ignore from artifacts is dungeon only so
abstract yacht
Many last stage mobs and boss don't even have defence
uh, the opposite, they do. there's a reason shredding defenses is the meta on Ran raid
warm hornet
i'd request some input and thoughts in my gear.
i have 38.75% increased damage reduction when i'm 30% hp or lower.
double attack is roughtly 50% chance.
and i use indomitable will
solid socket
Assuming you're not unironically using come hell and high water because it's suicide
warm hornet
i am.
solid socket
Your maxi is low, indom is okay but I would still socket crit
warm hornet
i'm SS with it.
solid socket
I wouldn't in all honesty since the hp draining is just gonna kill you if your enemies know what they're doing
I'm usually sss(currently ss because season just began last week and I'm slacking) and that's not gonna work past getting into ss imho
I'd use undying flame because countering res titles is nice
warm hornet
alright. thank you for the feedback!
i'll give undying flame a shot.
but i use high hell and high water because i'm mostly going to lose neutral is most fights anyways...
solid socket
Might be a tough task to get but I usually also use 15-5 acc and Solace Mr acc with a red damage ID for face middle
warm hornet
should i trade the additonal damage for maximize?
solid socket
Yeah that's a thing with ce but on the flip side if you lose neutral and you bank on a one-shot via the title, there's a very good chance you'll just die trying
warm hornet
oh, i also have 10% reduce additional damage on my accessories. (around there)
solid socket
I'd get an ereda rof and magic necklace since the extra stats and idents can help too
But that's also a tall order because you either pay 1.5b+ or your sanity doing ereda
solid socket
What's your mpr at?
warm hornet
i forget, what does MPR stans for?
solid socket
mpr is rly important in pvp nowadays and since CE's neutral game isnt strong I imagine she'd want mpr to use skills for catches/damage to negate that
Mp cost reduction
solid socket
Yeah that'll be an issue
If you have a pvp erp page I would get mpr at least in there asap
solid socket
Yes but you'd still want as much as possible
Most just try to cap it
I personally am only at 22%
But I need more
solid socket
That's also why IW isn't used in pvp as much: because the mpr socket increases crit as well, mpr being important means you have 100% crit anyway due to dignity stones
solid socket
I think if u want efficiency it'd be better for you to use goe/eclipse/freed shadow and get mpr sockets and ditch the IW idea due to how important mpr is and the aforementioned already getting 100% crit anyway
Just due to existing with dignity stones
warm hornet
oh and as for my playstyle, i play summonless.
solid socket
Idk how efficient it may or may not be but I've seen CEs in kr videos kill with both heavens fists with that kinda mpr esque build
warm hornet
hmm.
solid socket
That's all I can say tho since outside of general stat knowledge and builds my eve knowledge actually isn't that much(ignore my role it's just to match my icon)
solid socket
Yeah I'd see KR CEs nuke with that and pressure but that was in 2s
warm hornet
i guess i'll have the skill ready for 2s then.
solid socket
Not 100% sure if mpr would make both usable in 1s due to the extra mp you gain in 2s compared to 1s
full yoke
what is come hell an d high water do
that ppl use it?
nvm servhed it
this is for pvp afking huh?
like 10 mp for 10 % hp ?
prisma surge
Of the 12 years that I have been playing, it took me a long while to get to 246k combat power.
I log on today, make a new character, and then the game just hands me a free permanent+9 void and elrianode set. My new character, 1 - 99, and 260k combat power in just one day.
Why do I even try
They even made Genesis a better Rune Master.
Then there's people walking around with like 6mil combat power. I can't do this anymore. I quit.
echo tangle
dont mean to sound rude but it sounds like you were slacking if you spent 12 years and never made it to rigomor
willow mural
Of the 12 years that I have been playing, it took me a long while to get to 246k...
Mate this is pvp chat
But to give some words, the game has changed drastically over the 12 years you've been on
I've been playing for almost 5 i think? When void was still endgame and you have to farm it like 1000 times to get the wep.
It's long since been dethroned as the best weapon in the game and is now used as a stepping stone for you to get better ones.
Yes, it might be frustrating to see a easy CP boost like that, but in this game, the farther you get, the more you see that cp doesn't equate to power.
And yes, Genesis is broken, but he has the virtue of being a 2022+ elsword character
mystic elbow
Iโve been playing for 6 years am still not 300 erp or 6mil CP
Thatโs cuz I slacked off n sparred for majority of it
And also because I simply didnt know what to do to get ahead
solid socket
I've been playing for 3 and I am at endgame
mystic elbow
But yeah this a pvp chat
solid socket
The variety...
mystic elbow
If I could delete that comment I definitely would
solid socket
Actually I think it's 4 now
CP doesn't mean or do anything in pvp so I'm not sure why it's here either tbh
willow mural
Probably thought they were in PvE
prisma surge
I still quit.
echo tangle
unfortunate I hope you find another game you will enjoy 
pastel creek
Of the 12 years that I have been playing, it took me a long while to get to 246k...
Bro WHAT ๐
How i just
echo tangle
tight sable
just 1v1 arena
and why
why not CE bcuz of her summons and why not CS bcuz of her blinding
echo tangle
CE summons only become a threat if there's a huge gear gap i think
as for CS I don't think blind has ever been much of a issue
especially since you can build resist for it
tight sable
do u think summons can be used for getting mana
like, for the opponent to gain mana
by hitting them
echo tangle
yes the opponent can definitely build mana off her summons
tight sable
what happens if u got blinded with a 500 resistance to light
does it not blind u at all
echo tangle
duration will be short
tight sable
also what about CU? what's good about her for pvp?
echo tangle
ones of the things I remember is that she has one of the best mobility for eves, her projectiles can cover a large amount of the screen, can regen HP, and good catching skills
solid socket
blinding and summons arent that bad when compared to ca invalidating your ability to play the game
is basically how it works
mystic elbow
CU is very strong but CA is just easier and overall better
solid socket
from what i hear yeah pretty much this, i also hear cs isnt bad at all by any means its just that ca is one of if not the stupidest character
real viper
free regen HP/MP per sec is already a broken thing if you think about it
like Cass said, CU is very strong but not easy
CA on the other hand...
like easy reward but effective
CE and CS tend to be effective on low/mid rank imo, but not quite when fight against well experience pvp-er
there are things they can use and do from what you think it's your advantage to counter back at you
just a personal opinion
cuz I don't have many experience with CE match up
abstract yacht
CP doesn't mean or do anything in pvp so I'm not sure why it's here either tbh
my friend unironically building ASD and Pola on ERP to get Sunshower to heal more on his matches:
empty ore
why not CE bcuz of her summons and why not CS bcuz of her blinding
Summons are an easy way to get blown up via splash damage. Not to mention they are targets for extra mp.
CS has damage issues. Commands arent really that strong, Only one good damage button while you try your best to force breaks.
tight sable
how's CU in pvp?
empty ore
also what about CU? what's good about her for pvp?
Great air commands, solid buttons like Illusion thorns and spear burst. Stole CE's cooldown reset passive and makes better use of it. Assault spear big damage.
oblique sundial
cu is super good but gets ignored because ca is just broken
eventually CA will get an actual nerf and CU can start to shine
mystic elbow
dusk dock
oblique sundial
the thought makes me happier than playing the game
dusk dock
may you continue to have happy thoughts
warm hornet
what is come hell an d high water do
it gives 1%~10% increased damage based on missing HP. it stops HP drain when at 30% hp and bonus damage is at 10% when at 30% hp.
warm hornet
my sockest are based on getting to the 30% hp threshold.
full yoke
Hm so alot of hp or Ido will.
warm hornet
i have 6% crit rate, but with indomitable will, i'll always crit when i'm low hp.
and thus, i used crit damage specialization.
so at least, everything i can throw will hurt. (eventually)
willow mural
How about ppl make all past classes a 2023 update
that would be interesting to see, but that would be a bad idea overall
imagine if everyone could airdash, had 24/7 superarmor, suction, etc etc
empty ore
eventually CA will get an actual nerf and CU can start to shine
See thats the thing
CU can already shine, just nobody is playing her in favor of the easier Eve lol.
full yoke
Yeah so what you saying it's good that some do and spam it
But we aren't allowed to cause we are old as?
mystic elbow
it would make more sense and make the game overall better if they took away the most broken stuff
rather than just giving it to every char
warm hornet
back in the old days, skills can be interrupted on startup if you try to mash out of a combo with them.
and thus, waste mana.
and today, we mash skills to escape small combo gaps.
mystic elbow
it's definitely better now than pre-hitstun patch
only thing is now some hits last wayyy too long
willow mural
im fighting the same mpx and he keeps winning
i think i hate that class too
gottem
empty ore
Good for you.
empty ore
Everyone had to start somewhere.
Unfortunately now since you won itll be harder because they will try more.
willow mural
oh hes gone
after that match i took like 5 min
and when i came back he disappeared
๐ me playing way too cocky and almost getting served
oblique sundial
i think i hate that class too
you should hate this class
dude breaks the rules of the game
dusk dock
i think i hate that class too
funny how I met you as MPx
and how I hate the class now as well
dusk dock
๐ me playing way too cocky and almost getting served
aint no way you actually won this
willow mural
I was able to run around with like 1 hp for 40ish seconds
Maybe if he had undying I would've died earlier
abstract yacht
๐ me playing way too cocky and almost getting served
dont do that
you used V after using blazing wings
Chivalry/WotS dont update their effects when you swap
a skill soft saves the effects on which state you used it as.
Also that is why one must always bring undying flames to PvP
Never go easy cuz your opponent is at 1 HP 
willow mural
i know that
i tried to switch as soon as clock went off but dude couldve shadow stepped or something
abstract yacht
fair
willow mural
in that case i still shouldve gotten a little closer so he had less of a window
if he had clock i wouldve been screwed lul
abstract yacht
she can be... predictable
willow mural
what is it about FL that makes her neutral bad?
You're relying on zxxx a lot
There are no dives or rushes like the other eles have
You do have >>^xx, but watch your back...
You can use >>^zxxx / >>^xzz for people whoa re just running all over the place, youd be surprised on how many times you can get a catch
celest ore
worst part of other eles is them not having rushing sword and provoke fr ๐ฏ
willow mural
tfw rushing sword used to be an elesis base skill
heavy spear
i remember when CrA lost leap and rushing sword in 2016 or so, and she was at her absolute weakest
willow mural
leap would be nice to have back too
not like i played back in the days when she had it ofc
heavy spear
the only way CrA could catch was with mindgames hoping they'd blunder into your injection
and it was so easy to mana break all her damage as >>ZX~X no longer stalled it
celest ore
not like i played back in the days when she had it ofc
leap and rushing sword were very good to have on bh back in the day yep
celest ore
did i just
level up erp from arena
abstract yacht
PvP gives slight Exp, yes.
full yoke
@mystic elbow they did that before but instantly rebuffed em nova just stayed behind no anti air chasing tool or stuns
They just spam everything and we can't do anythin
What's that unholy damage of ni does he have a +11 van or vas ?
Also this nova acreewed up he shouldn't have mb
He has he's passive and probably crow up
You can use the ghost for e and awaken if possible it was eazy win
Yeah he's overheated
Geared
I never mb free MP is fun
mystic elbow
You not mbing is def a problem
Im pretty sure shooting dash can be used as a chasing tool
oblique sundial
Isn't it a whole boom
mystic elbow
Yea
oblique sundial
Lol
celest ore
sometimes i dont mb just to see what ridiculous plot armor the chung is gonna pull out to keep the combo going
what is his hitstun
knotty kraken
x (eats an entire sandwich) x
full yoke
welps i never mana break
but i reached sss when iwas in meta items
rn that im worse than even non meta items
im like s close to ss
the chasing tool dosent help against an evve flyuing
away also its a good enough range to consider chasing
secondly we got a tenacity skill which dosent overheat which is shooting dash and ground impact
cround impact active was alot better than the tenacity strength we have
willow mural
Anyone who calls you out for mbing are silly
celest ore
i was once told that mana breaking is cheating
well whoever said that was lying
celest ore
that wont help against me, an elesis, x dropping as often as possible because its one of my biggest damagers
willow mural
Cheating is pulling out some exploits to win
Mb is a good tool to have
I use it when I don't want to use my escape skill
full yoke
i dont know how to x drop reset kd tbh