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keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 2:20 PM

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before IoE modding saves:

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📎 01m_24d_2025_modded3.zip 📎 01m_27d_2025_modded3.zip

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before B save slot copy and try to uninstall IoE and roll back save

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📎 03m_16d_2025_DD_with_IoE_ships.zip

faint flower Mar 16, 2025, 2:28 PM

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keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 2:30 PM

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ok. Thanks for the clarification.

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game crashes from main menu even without loading save. F

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oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 3:53 PM

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if it crashes in the main menu, then it's likely not to do with the save

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i'll take a look, then is it this save that you'd like to be fixed?

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 4:30 PM

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sorry it took a while (spent an age importing the mods to the editor), but by the looks of it, it seems that your active ship isn't from any installed mods.

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i'll boot it up with saveedit and get a better look

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huh, weird thing is it's using the KTI titan, which is in the mods i've got installed with testing. are any of these mods modified or OOTB?

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i will say that the save does look pretty broken from the JSON. lemmie bring up a vanilla save for comparison

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here we go

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what i'd assume went wrong is you've sold an IoE ship, and for whatever reason that broke the JSON somehow and caused the issue

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 4:51 PM

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Yeah, that save looks a bit......wonky?

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 4:56 PM

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what's weird is that i get completely different results from launching in the editor or through the executable. the editor treats it like the ship doesn't even exist on the save, while using the executable gets to enceladus, finishes the crew animation and then crashes

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actually, that part's an error on my end, i didn't have the mods loaded properly

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but it does show more promising stuff now, a heads up that the ARMFocus mod no longer functions

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huh, once I remove both problematic mods, it just crashes. no caught errors, no problematic scripts or scenes, nothing

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oh yeah, forgot to mention, the second problematic mod is TurnNBurn

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i'll try bringing in IoE to see if that fixes it

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huh, it works fine with IoE on my end

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now that i think about it, it totally could be the IoE specific slots. i'll try emptying those and give it a try without IoE

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nope, same issue again

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i'll try switching to a vanilla ship then disabling

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doesn't work, but once again no errors ffs

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last attempt, i'll try with a vanilla ship purchased from dealer

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nope, once again same case. guess i'll have to try editing the save file

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no luck, importing crashes

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 5:19 PM

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Which save are you working with, exactly?

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I need something to distract me, I kinda wanna look through the stuffs

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 5:23 PM

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save b from here

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i suppose for reference, loading that save without IoE only throws these two warnings, which come from vanilla code from some of the new events, and don't cause problems outside of their respective scripts

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not even anything that usually throws for a missing ship or slot, it's completely silent

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i think i might take a break and finish up a quick hotfix for IoE that i found with testing this, oh and for reference it didn't do diddly squat for this specific issue

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new release:

Fixed errors caused by the recent changes to image loading that still prevented the Oberon and MAD-CERF from loading
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.1.5

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 5:37 PM

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oak echo oh yeah, forgot to mention, the second problematic mod is TurnNBurn

I want to believe that this save can be saved.

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 5:37 PM

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the only way i could get it to work is with IoE installed, sadly i don't have any leads for the crashes that occur without it

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oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 5:39 PM

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yeah, i suppose that is the other thing, the chances of something working after removal will go down with more mods installed, more things to go wrong

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oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 5:42 PM

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it should be fine for QOL mods that won't affect a save, however the moment that certain core changes are brought in (mostly new ships and slot changes), that's when things start to break

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 5:50 PM

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oak echo the only way i could get it to work is with IoE installed, sadly i don't have an...

now it crashes with it (

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 5:51 PM

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hm, that's weird. just to make sure, none of the mods have been modified after download, right?

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 5:55 PM

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hmmm. i'll try to re download

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 5:59 PM

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oak echo hm, that's weird. just to make sure, none of the mods have been modified after d...

on loading of the save game crashes.

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last unedited mods

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:00 PM

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i see

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:00 PM

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📎 mods.zip

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my mods

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this save

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:03 PM

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i'll give them a look, and i'm assuming save B?

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:04 PM

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Save B = A.

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HMMM

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now game crashes from menu after some time.

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F to me

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📎 dv_performance_1.csv 📎 dv_log_0.txt 📎 engine_log.txt

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:05 PM

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sounds like a bug that an older version of IoE had, i'll take a look

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:05 PM

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📎 engine_log2025-03-16T20.02.59.txt

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:05 PM

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oak echo sounds like a bug that an older version of IoE had, i'll take a look

Than you

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I broke my game and my save but I can't figure out HOW I did it.

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:07 PM

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keen sky

Failed loading resource: res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/ships/Oberon.tscn

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i have a feeling, that I need FULL cleaning of save and game at this point (

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If i'll be lucky i'll be a ble to load per-IoE save after this.

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:09 PM

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keen sky Failed loading resource: res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/ships/Oberon.tscn

yeah, that's an issue that i did fix with 2.1.5, but it shouldn't have any effect unless you had the oberon as the active ship

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:10 PM

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oak echo yeah, that's an issue that i did fix with 2.1.5, but it shouldn't have any effec...

my active was KTI

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with 2 arms

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:10 PM

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yup, so it wouldn't have been an issue

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:11 PM

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oak echo yup, so it wouldn't have been an issue

and that's why I can't figure out what the source of the problem is.

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should i try to re install game and mods?

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 6:13 PM

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You don't KNOW what 'ungodly amount of mods' means 🤣 My FONV and FO4 games have >100 each

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:14 PM

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wise plank You don't KNOW what 'ungodly amount of mods' means 🤣 My FONV and FO4 games hav...

I agree. Some ppl run Starsector with 25+ mods

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which are PACKAGES and not separate add-ons

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:16 PM

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keen sky should i try to re install game and mods?

i don't think reeinstalling is going to help things, as from what i can see, it's a pure mess of several mods not playing nice with each other. it's bad enough that the entire IDE crashed, so i'm probably going to do a bit of experimentation before i can come up with anything definitive

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actually, might be in part a memory leak also, as i don't think i've ever had it use this much before

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:17 PM

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oak echo actually, might be in part a memory leak also, as i don't think i've ever had it...

strange. so it's a leak by some mod....

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:17 PM

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oak echo i don't think reeinstalling is going to help things, as from what i can see, it'...

ok. i'll wait

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:17 PM

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keen sky strange. so it's a leak by some mod....

could very well be. i have no way to say for certain atm

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 6:18 PM

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Wait, hev, were you able to get the save exported? I don't have a free slot rn, and am too lazy to shuffle files

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:18 PM

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i don't have a fresh one as i overwrote it with a modification, but i can quickly get one

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 6:19 PM

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I'm just super curious at this point

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:20 PM

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📎 alexsave.txt

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:23 PM

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oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:23 PM

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keen sky

just realized, you don't have the KTI-K225 in this selection, is that potentially a cause

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:24 PM

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???

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:25 PM

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your save has the KTI titan as the active ship, yet the mod for it isn't in the zip file

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:26 PM

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...

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re downloaded and added.

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so far anti virus is ok

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it works

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kinda

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:28 PM

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i'm assuming they're the interlunar containers, right?

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:29 PM

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yes

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:29 PM

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yeah, they have an issue with IoE. i've tried to find a fix, but considered it not worth it as i couldn't find anything reliable that didn't cause a dumpster fire elsewhere

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:29 PM

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WTF happened... Maybe i deleted KTI with IoE...

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:30 PM

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oak echo yeah, they have an issue with IoE. i've tried to find a fix, but considered it n...

so i'll try again to uninstall IoE and load old save

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:30 PM

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try that

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 6:31 PM

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So, quick question: why does the garage in the save appear to have TWO ships?

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Am I thinking backwards?

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:32 PM

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wise plank So, quick question: why does the garage in the save appear to have TWO ships?

O__o

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 6:32 PM

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Oh, nvm, I AM

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Ignore me

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Tired SHUSH

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:32 PM

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happens to the best of us lol

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 6:33 PM

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I was like: 'why is this same ship in here twice?'

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:34 PM

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It works on old save

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 6:34 PM

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Cursed

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 6:34 PM

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good to hear

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:35 PM

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keen sky

01m.27d.2025

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:35 PM

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wise plank Cursed

kinda

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o7 to IoE but i want to play the game not mod loading.

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at some point ALL, including IoE was working, but not anymore(

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01m.28d

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till update on 25 or so Feb.

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 6:39 PM

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I'm way too tired to go through the saves fully. 🤣

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 6:40 PM

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first one to "go in sunrise" was "NTCED Parts Pack", now it's "IoE-re". I'm scared that more mods gonna break(

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 7:11 PM

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Thx for help, @oak echo @wise plank ! Old save works)

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remember bug with self destruction of equipment n J-menu?

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it has returned.

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 7:17 PM

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oof. i could never get that to replicate, do you mind sending a screenshot at all?

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 7:18 PM

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oak echo oof. i could never get that to replicate, do you mind sending a screenshot at al...

looks like it caused by memory leak. i have already restarted game.

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the scary part that now it affects ALL equpment...

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not just "hands"..

oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 7:19 PM

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i see

wise plank Mar 16, 2025, 8:07 PM

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I didn't do anything 🤣 Wanted to, so like..... thought that counts? lolol

keen sky Mar 16, 2025, 8:41 PM

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wise plank I didn't do anything 🤣 Wanted to, so like..... thought that counts? lolol

LOL

faint flower Mar 16, 2025, 11:07 PM

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oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 11:08 PM

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i'm currently on that bug rn, is it specific to the bender or does it not work on other ships?

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oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 11:09 PM

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it's likely related to the recent fix for a CTD with them

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oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 11:12 PM

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i haven't checked, but they likely still don't

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oak echo Mar 16, 2025, 11:15 PM

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ok, so they do add mass, which means it's an issue with the launching of drones

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least that rules out not actually being installed

faint flower Mar 16, 2025, 11:35 PM

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oak echo i'm currently on that bug rn, is it specific to the bender or does it not work o...

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faint flower Mar 17, 2025, 3:09 AM

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oak echo i'm currently on that bug rn, is it specific to the bender or does it not work o...

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oak echo Mar 17, 2025, 3:17 AM

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might be a moment before either of those will be fixed, i've found another CTD that happens with the drones, so that's priority for the moment

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oak echo Mar 17, 2025, 3:18 AM

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yeah, thanks anyway

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btw, is it specifically the titan or another ship that the bulker doesn't show up on? it appears fine on the bender (it's the first ship i had active)

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oak echo Mar 17, 2025, 3:27 AM

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i see

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actually, do you mind sending a screenshotat all? there's been a few different problems with it over time, i just want to know how i'll approach it

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oak echo Mar 17, 2025, 3:32 AM

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i see, thanks

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oak echo Mar 17, 2025, 3:38 AM

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alright, i'll give them a look too

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atomic hare Mar 18, 2025, 11:31 AM

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Haven't checked other ships but yeah titan k225 seems to have some things wrong with it. In my current configuration:

Harvester-class Haul drones don't work (they show up in the equipment menu and I can buy them but they don't work during the dive)
either I'm stupid or the THI Bulker MPU doesn't process minerals or remass (and there seems to be no space in the cargo bay shown where they would process)
in Cargo Bay Accessories the two fabricator options don't appear on the ship (I can buy them in the equipment shop but there's no protrusion in the cargo bay that I could see in the non-rewrite version) and they don't work

Tho I'm quite happy to say that the engines and thrusters DO work, this thing is like a muscle car compared to before 🙂

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Yeah the THI Bulker MPU and the harvester-class haul drones don't seem to work on my Eagle Prospector either

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 4:09 PM

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i'm working on that now actually. i've just fixed the hard-stop drones, and yet another issue with textures loading incorrectly on the oberon and causing it to not load, so hopefully there will be a release later today

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actually, suppose while i'm working on this, i could get bay accessory baffles to work as well

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looks like it extends to all IoE cargo equipment, and the hold kits don't even appear to show up at all

oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 7:25 PM

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atomic hare Yeah the THI Bulker MPU and the harvester-class haul drones don't seem to work o...

i've been using the titan for testing, but on my end at least it works on the eagle now

faint flower Mar 18, 2025, 7:46 PM

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 8:12 PM

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hopefully tonight, however i don't have any specific leads for the titan itself, so if i don't have any actual fix i'll still push an update for what i've already had fixed

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 8:24 PM

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that might be natural, as it is a tutorial feature and will slow down their appearances over the first few months

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 8:34 PM

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hm, are you getting other events spawns like normal?

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 8:40 PM

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you might just be getting unlucky with AI spawns then, although i can't say for sure. would you mind sending a zipped up copy of your logs folder at all?

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 8:45 PM

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yeah that should be fine

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i believe that this is normal behaviour, looks like a titan derelict to me

faint flower Mar 18, 2025, 8:47 PM

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oak echo i believe that this is normal behaviour, looks like a titan derelict to me

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 8:48 PM

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i'm assuming the crash happened before you sent the logs, right?

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also, there is another issue that i did find, so if it's ok with you, would you mind zipping the entire save directory as there's a few other things I'd need that aren't in the logs folder

faint flower Mar 18, 2025, 8:53 PM

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oak echo i'm assuming the crash happened before you sent the logs, right?

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faint flower Mar 18, 2025, 8:53 PM

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oak echo also, there is another issue that i did find, so if it's ok with you, would you ...

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 8:56 PM

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i will need more than the save, rather the entire directory if that's ok

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 8:58 PM

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yes

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oak echo Mar 18, 2025, 9:36 PM

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one of the derelict delights events wasn't spawning properly

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 1:06 AM

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ok, i've taken a proper look at the issue, and what i can tell is that if two or more mods add events, only the events added by the first mod to load will be able to appear. I am going to look for a workaround, as other places that source these events will still try to point towards a now missing event

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 1:29 AM

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ok, i think i'll make a new release for both IoE and derelict delights to make sure the fix goes out, I still haven't found anything to make headway on the titan issue so it'll at least get those fixes out of the way

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 1:30 AM

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exactly

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plus would not make it the first time i'd forgotten to document a change i'd made lol

faint flower Mar 19, 2025, 1:32 AM

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 1:33 AM

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in fact, there's a minor change made to derelict delights since I last pushed an update that i can add

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 1:38 AM

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new release:

Yet again fixed another error with ships failing to load due to trying to find an image in a nonexistent path, this time with the Oberon's shaders.
Fixed hard-stop drones, and another CTD that was derived from the last fix for a CTD involving them
Delayed loading of Game.tscn to allow mods that load after this one to add events
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.1.6

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 4:39 AM

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yeah, i haven't found a fix for that yet

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 4:42 AM

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yeah, sadly i don't think i'll get a fix in tonight. i've had little success on actually getting a link to what causes them to not show other than the fact that the ship just does not register them as equipment

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 4:45 AM

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yup, although hopefully when i find the fix, the accessory baffles will work as well

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 7:26 PM

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it's intentional that the miners that dive with you slowly dissipate over time, although if it's a sudden drop, perhaps check on a new save to see if it works there as it's tied to the in-game clock

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 7:29 PM

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yeah, it's more so to get newer players to speed with how interactions with other ships and crews happen

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oak echo Mar 19, 2025, 8:42 PM

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nope, only one should appear. i probably forgot to disable some test code

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oak echo Mar 20, 2025, 9:33 AM

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luckily I haven't needed to. dv is pretty modular, so updates aren't likely to break things unless they directly change something within the mod.

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I also do work with the experimental branch when I'm developing mods, so I do get to see when things that would break other things happen so it can be rectified before it comes out to full release (actually did have a case with derelict delights not too long ago when the salvage changes were in the works)

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oak echo Mar 20, 2025, 9:37 PM

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haven't had much time to look, but sadly i haven't had much luck

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oak echo Mar 20, 2025, 9:53 PM

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i guess you'll just have to use a different ship in the meantime, from what i can tell it's just the titans which the cargo bay equipment has problems with, everything else works fine

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oak echo Mar 20, 2025, 9:58 PM

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I think i do need to change my approach to the issue, it might not actually be an issue with the ship itself

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ok i think i actually got it this time, it was a typo causing it to create a new scene instead of attempting to replace the titan scene, which explains why i wasn't getting any errors either

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https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.1.7

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Release 2.1.7 · rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite

Fixed a typo causing the Titan series of ships to be unable to fit equipment added by this mod.

faint flower Mar 20, 2025, 10:09 PM

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oak echo Mar 20, 2025, 10:20 PM

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yeah lol

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the syntax is perfectly fine, I just forgot to check what file I was changing with the new titan

faint flower Mar 20, 2025, 10:34 PM

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silk cave Mar 20, 2025, 10:59 PM

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a rogue maintenance worker decided to prank me by applying a highly reflective coating on my oberon and pointing all of the ship's lights towards itself causing it to glow

oak echo Mar 21, 2025, 12:35 AM

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oops, i think whatever i did with the shaders didn't work properly, i'll take a look

oak echo Mar 21, 2025, 12:54 AM

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https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.1.8

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Release 2.1.8 · rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite

Fixed issue with the lighting map being used in place of the normal map for the Oberon's hull

silk cave Mar 22, 2025, 8:47 PM

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is it possible to make IoER compatible with the ShowReliability mod? it doesn't work when IoER is installed, not even with vanilla equipment

oak echo Mar 22, 2025, 9:13 PM

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i suppose so. i thought it was just a modification of the text, but i suppose not. it is probably subject to the priority difference however. i'll give it a look when i get home

oak echo Mar 23, 2025, 11:44 PM

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new release:

Fixed CTD caused by NPC miners being spawned on the title screen
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.1.10

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Release 2.1.10 · rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite

Fixed CTD caused by NPC miners being spawned on the title screen

faint flower Mar 25, 2025, 12:12 AM

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oak echo Mar 25, 2025, 12:13 AM

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that should have been solved in 2.1.9, but i'll give it a double check

faint flower Mar 25, 2025, 12:14 AM

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oak echo Mar 25, 2025, 12:16 AM

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yeah, that version did fix an issue where the range was displayed as 800 but the actual detection area was locked to the 400m default of vanilla drones

faint flower Mar 25, 2025, 12:16 AM

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serene gyro Mar 26, 2025, 7:46 AM

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Crash to desktop after a second viewing the THI Harvester-class Haul Drone on the Rear Right Hardpoint.

Mods used:
AchieveDeez! Gimme My Achievements Back!
Derelict Delights
Elon Interstellar (A mod I jerry rigged together by changing the "Y" mod, a simple text change, shouldn't affect anything.)
Industries of Enceladus Compat Port
Kitsune Start
Mod Menu
Stated Claims

📎 dV.zip

oak echo Mar 26, 2025, 3:31 PM

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i'm assuming from the logs that this was done with an OK720?

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anyway, under that assumption, i couldn't get it to trigger personally on my own save, i'll try loading yours to see if i can

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hm, i can't get a crash to trigger

serene gyro Mar 26, 2025, 4:27 PM

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oak echo hm, i can't get a crash to trigger

Strange, for me it happened each time I tried to preview that module on that hardpoint, no idea why it wasn't able to be replicated on your side. In the end I just decided to put it on my rear left hardpoint, and I haven't had any crashes or whatnot from it being in that slot. Regardless, I am loving the mod and the derpy OK720 that is included; it actually works surprisingly well for a joke ship.

earnest sigil Mar 29, 2025, 4:44 AM

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seems to be weird things happening with the "deep dish" OCP variant, i am unable to decelerate at all when entering the rings, when in the virtual flight service the ship kinda just decided when it wants to follow the laws of physics

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something odd is that while trying to fly in the rings the ship resuses to decelerate or change course, however during the slowdown from being in the astrogator/mechanic menu it DOES decelerate as the speed is changed when you exit the menu

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OCP 214 DD

oak echo Mar 29, 2025, 4:50 AM

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i'll give it a look

earnest sigil Mar 29, 2025, 4:51 AM

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good luck hev

oak echo Mar 29, 2025, 4:52 AM

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just purchased one and entered the rings and it seemed to decelrate just fine

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would you mind getting video footage of what happens on your end at all?

earnest sigil Mar 29, 2025, 4:53 AM

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VC so i can stream?

oak echo Mar 29, 2025, 4:53 AM

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that works

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ok i see, and very bizarre too. might be the equipment selected, as i just went with stock from dealer

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ok, best guess i have so far is that there's a problem with the collider, but i can't say for sure

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yeah, perhaps send a screenshot of the equipment loadout that you could get it to happen with and I can see if i can replicate it fully on my end

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let me know if you find anything with the mods and i could perhaps see if there's a workaround

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alright, lemmie give it a look and i'll see what it does under the hood

oak echo Mar 29, 2025, 6:05 AM

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@earnest sigil i think i have something that might work. i've got what is currently a very crude alternative that instead of doubling the limit, just straight up removes it. see if this works for you

📎 yzqh2t8.zip

wise plank Apr 1, 2025, 11:14 PM

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Question about IoE and it's replacement: Is there a configuration that adds a cradle ARM inside the cargo hold? And subesequently, a beacon or THICC mounting position?

oak echo Apr 2, 2025, 6:37 AM

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nothing for either of those yet, although for the former i do have something pretty close with a modification to the OCP: #1242427385417039943 message

stark hull Apr 3, 2025, 10:38 PM

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So while playing with both this mod and More Minerals I noticed a lot of Be minerals spawning regardless of depth so I made a few new games and counted the spawn rate to test. Turns out even after 8 new games and various depths i was consistently getting at least 3 out of 5 roids with be and usually 4/5. I then tried several new saves with each mod loaded alone and spawns went back to normal regardless of which mod I had loaded so somewhere there seems to be an odd interaction causing it to skew the mineral spawning somehow tho I can't figure it out so far digging through the files. Mostly just giving a heads up and wondering if it's just me somehow lol.

oak echo Apr 3, 2025, 10:46 PM

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thanks for the heads up, will see if i can take a quick look later but probably won't be able to do anything definitive until sunday.

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i guess for the meantime, enjoy good profits lol

stark hull Apr 3, 2025, 10:47 PM

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no problem and i've just been ignoring the be for balance lol.

oak echo Apr 3, 2025, 10:49 PM

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fair enough

thick drum Apr 4, 2025, 10:08 AM

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Is this mod supposed to be the updated version of Industries of Enceladus or is this its own separate mod?

wise plank Apr 4, 2025, 10:55 AM

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It's a WIP bringing IoE into the modern age, to work well with other mods, and support the new manifesting / formatting system

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I guess you'd call it a whole new mod? But it's based off the OG IoE files, afaik

muted roost Apr 4, 2025, 1:03 PM

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Is it safe to replace the old IoE with this?

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In a running save I mean

wise plank Apr 4, 2025, 1:05 PM

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I believe that's the entire intent

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I'm not running it, so don't take my word for it

winter sandal Apr 4, 2025, 1:23 PM

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muted roost Is it safe to replace the old IoE with this?

Switch to vanilla ship before that.

muted roost Apr 4, 2025, 1:26 PM

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Pure vanilla or just a vanilla hull?

winter sandal Apr 4, 2025, 1:32 PM

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muted roost Pure vanilla or just a vanilla hull?

Vanilla hull should be enough I think

oak echo Apr 4, 2025, 3:39 PM

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wise plank I guess you'd call it a whole new mod? But it's based off the OG IoE files, afa...

yeah, it's pretty much a modification of the original IoE, so there's a large portion of it that's the same or similar

oak echo Apr 4, 2025, 8:54 PM

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new bugfix:

Fixed misaligned MAD-CERF sprite from the updated sprite
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.1.11

jolly saddle Apr 5, 2025, 3:30 AM

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diiiiiid
the docking bays on the frigate get fixed?

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ah they did
excellent

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thank you <3

thick drum Apr 5, 2025, 4:17 AM

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muted roost Is it safe to replace the old IoE with this?

Yes but for some reason it will delete every modded ship in your fleet except the Frigate for some reason.

jolly saddle Apr 5, 2025, 4:21 AM

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that
didnt happen to me
huh

marble eagle Apr 6, 2025, 8:44 AM

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was testing and found an old bug that happened in the original version of the mod, when using the pigeon and buying equipment you get a ctd in the drone tab

oak echo Apr 6, 2025, 8:46 AM

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by drone tab is it the drone storage tab or one of the drone hardpoints?

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hm, giving a check of both drone storage and drone hardpoints, it works fine for me. is there anything else that might be at play, such as other mods?

marble eagle Apr 6, 2025, 9:08 AM

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oak echo by drone tab is it the drone storage tab or one of the drone hardpoints?

the drone hardpoints

marble eagle Apr 6, 2025, 9:08 AM

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oak echo hm, giving a check of both drone storage and drone hardpoints, it works fine for...

only the save editor and enable achievements

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i think it was the second hardpoint

oak echo Apr 6, 2025, 9:35 AM

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hm, i tried a new save and still couldn't get it to replicate

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actually nevermind, just got it to trigger

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seems to be caused by previewing the MLF haul drones, then previewing another equipment, then trying to preview the haul drones again. for whatever reason it's deleting the instance of the hauls and is throwing errors. i'll try to see if it happens elsewhere first just to know the scope of it

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ok, seems to be a bit more specific, previewing the hauls anywhere then previewing them on the right drone hardpoint causes it, at least there's a lead, but that's about where it ends for what i can see

oak echo Apr 7, 2025, 6:46 PM

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new release 2.2.0:

Fixed issue with the Pigeon having a second excavator that wasn't being removed properly when trying to preview MLF Haul drones on the right drone hardpoint
Added the YME - a cheaper fission variant to the Model E
Added the rest of the OCP used in the OK720
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.2.0

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Release 2.2.0 · rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite

Fixed issue with the Pigeon having a second excavator that wasn't being removed properly when trying to preview MLF Haul drones on the right drone hardpoint
Added the YME - a cheaper fission va...

winter sandal Apr 7, 2025, 7:21 PM

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Oh what a name.

oak echo Apr 7, 2025, 7:24 PM

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oh wow that is pretty fitting

winter sandal Apr 7, 2025, 7:28 PM

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I'm gonna assume rest of K37 went to E for smelting and habitation.

oak echo Apr 7, 2025, 7:29 PM

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~~huh i didn't even consider how it would fit in with how EP works~~ yeah it's a pretty clever touch

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i guess i could actually add that to the description, i do need to patch the built-in manipulator for the salvaged OCP so i'll have a patch soon anyway

oak echo Apr 8, 2025, 1:37 AM

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new release 2.2.1:

Fixed the Stripped OCP's arm appearing above other equipment
Fixed baffles not appearing on the Stripped OCP
Removed an extra L that appeared in the Y-ME stat description
Updated the Y-ME's description to explain where the reactors were sourced.
Fixed typo in the Stripped OCP's description
Fixed cargo bay display on the Stripped OCP
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.2.1

jolly saddle Apr 9, 2025, 8:42 AM

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interesting
the Zurbins have the same effect on the visfeed as fusion drives

jolly saddle Apr 9, 2025, 9:02 AM

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orrrrr im just silly
mb

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....
thats very strange

tawny jacinth Apr 9, 2025, 10:52 AM

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not sure if its been mentioned before
the OCP piranha has an issue where ore near the exit of the bay counts as outside the bay even when the hatch is closed
this causes arms to grab and pull on ore thats inside the ship

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it also stops astrogation if the ore is near the hatch

oak echo Apr 9, 2025, 3:43 PM

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this is likely from when i updated the colliders to bring fixes that had been made to the vanilla OCP, they looked close when i was at 100% zoom, so i likely didn't see any discrepancy. thanks for bringing it to my attention

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actually nope, completely different issue, and i have no idea how this got past

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guess i accidentally removed a couple of polygons without the object being visible

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new hotfix:

Fixed missing polygons on the OCP-Snap
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.2.2

tawny jacinth Apr 9, 2025, 3:50 PM

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that was impressive speed from finding out the issue to fixing it

oak echo Apr 9, 2025, 3:51 PM

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you gave a pretty good explanation of the issue, so it did help narrow down the cause by a good margin

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also considering that it was specific to the edge of the door, it did pretty much explain that it was to do with an incorrectly shaped object

tawny jacinth Apr 9, 2025, 4:00 PM

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doing programming helps you learn how to make a bug report i guess lol
yee thats fair

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 12:02 AM

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Something . . . off here. I tried slapping this on as the sole mod and starting a new game, and most interesting equipment isn't in the list at all. Some is in the list, but only has the code for the translation string.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 12:06 AM

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yeah the translations on this mod are a little weird, i've only ever had that happen when launching from godot directly, and i never was able to get the same to happen outside of godot, so i kinda forgot about it. i'll take a look into it

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 12:06 AM

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I rolled back to 2.2.1 and it works fine.

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I think the fix for the OCP snap broke something.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 12:06 AM

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weird, all it did was adjusting one of the cargo bay shapes

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i'll give it a look

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 12:08 AM

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Dunno. Loaded the last version, and now suddenly there's more equipment in the lists. Like, the hardpoint lists were 100% stock equipment, not even translation codes in them. Other spots, like the PMS drive (?) and the new aux slots were represented by the translation codes.

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None of the new ships showed me any change if I selected them, they continued showing the last ship I selected. The PMS drive definitely was in the preview and fired properly in the simulation, though.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 12:09 AM

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very weird, although i would expect that from the PMS as it's vanilla equipment, just usually inaccessible

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i'll start a new save, see if i can get the same to happen

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 12:11 AM

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I tried it from an old save, same result.

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The dealer ships DID show up visibly on their line in the dealer, which I understand is meaningful, but when selected the info panes didn't update to the new ship.

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Although . . . I did start YET a new game to try with 2.2.1. I think my first seed was 365. (noticed it because it was days in a year.) Picked a new seed for the 2.2.1 try.

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I don't feel like that should be meaningful, but it is something I did different.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 12:14 AM

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well, it's something to try regardless

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 12:16 AM

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Same problem in the new save with 2.2.2. Let me chuck the save your way. Should be a typical new game, though.

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Wait, why does this say reVAMP? Am I useing a file out of the other thread?

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 12:18 AM

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both use the revamp name, it caused a lot of problems trying to switch when i initially ported so i just kept it. i really should change that though

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just loaded your save too, and it works without a hitch. weird

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 12:19 AM

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For some reason one of my files is reWRITE . . . and I don't know if it's the old one I took out updating mods, or if I've been doing something silly and was using the wrong file.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 12:19 AM

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the rewrite one is a really old copy, before it was a direct port

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actually, yeah just double checked. i used rewrite on only the first two releases of this version

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 12:20 AM

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I THOUGHT I had carefully separated them . . . maybe I just delete 2.2.2 and don't remember, or maybe I'm being an idiot. Let's find out.

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Nope, the idiot wins the day, I'm just clumsy.

I swear I remember double-checking that I put the right one away.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 12:21 AM

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it happens, also partly my fault for not putting version numbers in the file names either

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well, at least that's cleared up

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 12:50 AM

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Still SOME oddities.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 1:07 AM

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oh huh, that's a ship i haven't even properly released yet. guess i forgot to disable the code to have it appear in the dealership

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yeah cause it wasn't ready for 2.2.1, i started work on it soon after and guess i just forgot to ensure that it wasn't ready for 2.2.2

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absolutely my fault on that part, i suppose i'm best finishing it up and making a release for it

stark hull Apr 10, 2025, 1:11 AM

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oak echo thanks for the heads up, will see if i can take a quick look later but probably ...

Have you had a chance to look around yet? Cool if not just checking. At this point I'm more curious about what could possibly be the cause then anything as it's pretty weird to me lol.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 1:12 AM

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i wasn't able to find anything properly definitive yet, i still am looking on occasion, but nothing i can say directly to fix it

stark hull Apr 10, 2025, 1:14 AM

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No rush or worries. Wouldn't have even mentioned it originally if it weren't some strange interaction between the two mods.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 1:16 AM

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yeah, sadly interactions with mods aren't always so straightforward. i almost always keep only the mod i'm directly working on enabled in the modloader to make sure i'm focusing on it directly

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really only when they're brought to my attention, like with this, do they ever get solved

thick drum Apr 10, 2025, 1:19 AM

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marble aurora Same problem in the new save with 2.2.2. Let me chuck the save your way. Should ...

Where do I find the savegame file? I want to know if I can change the amount of money I have in my game because I want to get my hands on all the modded ships that I lost by switching to this mod from the old version and I am not interested in grinding for them again even though it would be a lot easier to do it because I still have my Frigate.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 1:19 AM

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they're found in the appdata, at %appdata%\dV\

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although you'd struggle to manually open and edit them, as they are encrypted. i would say take a look at the SaveEdit mod, which lets you do that in-game: https://discord.com/channels/426287934870781952/1288340696075604083

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 1:23 AM

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I am SO SAD that the low-stress ARMs won't feed the Tsukiyomi.

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I was thinking to myself, "this is just right for a C'thuluship."

thick drum Apr 10, 2025, 1:32 AM

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oak echo although you'd struggle to manually open and edit them, as they are encrypted. i...

Thanks, I now have more than enough money to get them back, just need to get them to spawn in the dealer.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 1:35 AM

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marble aurora I am SO SAD that the low-stress ARMs won't feed the Tsukiyomi.

actually, i suppose that's a pretty feasible change to move the front slots further in, as there have been people saying that they're too close to the outer low-stess points

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 1:43 AM

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I was actually gonna fill all five, just for funsies.

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Shame drones are so messy with it. Each drone uses the mount as the centerpoint - and the centerpoint is widely spread out, so they like to fight with each other if you use something like deceleration area or to guide them around the ship.

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Zero buffer and a massive decel zone works okay, but zero buffer has some of its own problems.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 1:55 AM

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i suppose it is something that comes with ships that big

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 2:12 AM

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Yep. Though it doesn't help that the buffer and decel zone get weird. The decel zone centers on the hardpoint, the buffer centers on the COM, and if you shrink the buffer to near-nothing (it doesn't like letting you set zero) you get a band of decel around your buffer, instead of around the mount. And sometimes only around part of the buffer, because the way the center of each zone is different. Like on the K37, you can end up with a band of decel behind your butt.

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 2:33 AM

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One more tweak. Hotkey 2 and 3 disable both left or both right turrets. If you have a symmetric loadout, you probably usually want to disable the two front right/left or the normal left/right hardpoints.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 2:43 AM

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oh huh, guess i didn't assign new ones when i duplicated slots. i'll look into that

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 3:13 AM

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new release for 2.2.3:

Adjusted hardpoint positioning on the Tsukuyomi
- Front low-stress hardpoints have been moved 8m closer to the center, which makes RA KRB-500s more viable to feeding the excavator
- Sidebound low-stress hardpoints have been moved 5 meters back
Added the CK line of ships
- The CK's are a highly modified line of Eagles designed as interplanetary trawlers for cargo too delicate for standard cargo bays - typically people and processed ores
Adjusted the hotkeys for the Tsukuyomi so that each individual slot can now be toggled individually
This does shuffle around the order of hotkeys
The minus and equal keys are now able to be used for toggling hardpoints
Reduced Mod.manifest clutter
Saturated the used ship pool to compensate for the recent surge in ship additions
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.2.3

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 4:02 AM

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Well, can't salvage this I guess.

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Not even sure a ship in cargo would register, though.

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 4:07 AM

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yeah, sadly it doesn't count. i'm guessing that there may be a chance for that to change when the CERF gets a vanilla implementation though, if i don't get the motivation to figure out an implementation for the frigate beforehand

jolly saddle Apr 10, 2025, 7:56 AM

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the frigate has 3 reactor cores and yet when choosing the reactor core used you only pay once

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the NDSHB (the 1:1 mineral hold kit) should prooooobably be removed
or nerfed

marble aurora Apr 10, 2025, 10:06 AM

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If it wants to be a vanilla+ style mods, all the conversion holds are suspect, because they're essentially tiers of strictly better options. But I don't think it's that kind of mod.

jolly saddle Apr 10, 2025, 12:34 PM

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yea
still
its a bit ridiculous

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 2:18 PM

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yeah, this mod kinda is a brick in that sort of gameplay style. i personally prefer the vanilla+ mod style, although given this mod isn't mine and i'm just maintaining it, I do intend on keeping space's general design choices over my own for it

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heck who knows, maybe one day i'll make a more balanced version

ripe pasture Apr 10, 2025, 4:43 PM

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hey most of the mining companions are broken
the list is:
nakamura prototype hunk
nakamura p-type prototype hunk
N-A mining companion
N-A P-type mining companion
NT P-type mining companion
NCT Blaze companion
NCT P-type blaze companion
THI interlunar container
all these just don't appear visually on the docking bay and can't be launched

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these where all tested on the right front OCP docking bay

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and the other mods i have are, mod menu, derelict delights and HevLib

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 4:49 PM

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Yeah, it's a known issue with derelict delights equipment. Currently it's not planned to be fixed, as all patches that I was able to them to work with broke IoE in worse ways further down the line

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If I figure out another way to get them to work, I'll make sure it's in the patch notes, otherwise you're best just using something else

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Also, you likely don't need HevLib, as none of your other mods need it currently

ripe pasture Apr 10, 2025, 4:50 PM

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oak echo Yeah, it's a known issue with derelict delights equipment. Currently it's not pl...

oh i didn't realise they where DD equipment i though they where IoE

oak echo Apr 10, 2025, 4:52 PM

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Yeah, I can see why you'd assume it's from IoE though, that sort of equipment does fit this mod pretty well

ripe pasture Apr 10, 2025, 4:54 PM

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yeah ill just disabled DD equipment since im not using anything else from it

vapid fjord Apr 11, 2025, 3:31 AM

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Could you check the stats of the laminar turbines and the light ultra capacitors cuz the change in stats to the ship arent the same as what the description says it should be

oak echo Apr 11, 2025, 3:32 AM

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sure, i'll give it a check

vapid fjord Apr 11, 2025, 3:32 AM

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Ok thanks

oak echo Apr 11, 2025, 3:34 AM

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from a code standpoint they look ok, lemmie check it in game however

vapid fjord Apr 11, 2025, 3:37 AM

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When they are previewed the change in mass doesn't match what it says it should be. I'm not sure about power generation or capacity though

oak echo Apr 11, 2025, 3:38 AM

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ohh, it's the mass that's different. i was checking the generation and capacity stats

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thanks for clarifying, don't think i ever would've checked

vapid fjord Apr 11, 2025, 3:39 AM

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Ya no problem glad i wasn't just crazy or it was a conflict

oak echo Apr 11, 2025, 3:40 AM

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there's a good reason i don't think i would've checked, mass is in a completely different area to the majority of important stats

vapid fjord Apr 11, 2025, 3:46 AM

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If possible could you check the processed cargo hold total for the k tech kti titan the description says it has 26 tons for each mineral but in the upgrades it only shows 42 tons total

oak echo Apr 11, 2025, 3:48 AM

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sure, suppose i could give it a look when i'm done with this fix

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ok, so the fix is even more of an embarrassing one. the masses are stored in one of the very few files that i didn't do a direct port from the original IoE, and i forgot to port it across entirely. this is totally on me, guess it's insignificant enough that it did take this long to find

ripe pasture Apr 13, 2025, 12:17 AM

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@oak echo do you know if the rewrite makes this mod compatable with the k-tech mods?

oak echo Apr 13, 2025, 12:17 AM

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should do, they worked in my tests

ripe pasture Apr 13, 2025, 12:18 AM

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wonderfull

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well something aint compatable cause the game crashed

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it crashed so hard that the only log it made was this

📎 engine_log.txt

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helpfull

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damn it was pilot zoom

oak echo Apr 13, 2025, 12:24 AM

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just pilot zoom and IoE, right?

ripe pasture Apr 13, 2025, 12:27 AM

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I was running most of K-tech, moar radar, DD,IoE and mod menu as well as pilot zoom

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removed mods until it stopped crashing

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pilot zoom was the one that stopped the crashing

oak echo Apr 13, 2025, 12:29 AM

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yeah, i think PilotZoom's mod main was written incorrectly from the start, as it doesn't even let me launch before it throws an error with it

ripe pasture Apr 13, 2025, 12:30 AM

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idk enough to say if this is wrong or not

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modloader being defined as "false" probably doesn't help

oak echo Apr 13, 2025, 12:32 AM

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that part's fine, it's the fact that modloader doesn't have an "l" function is what threw the first error.

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and the replaceScene function apparently has bad syntax anyway

ripe pasture Apr 13, 2025, 12:33 AM

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amazing

oak echo Apr 13, 2025, 12:34 AM

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i mean, it's nowhere near as amazing as it may seem, the debugger does tell me that it doesn't have it

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anyway, try this, it should work a lot better now.

📎 miFkMeO.zip

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i'll also send it to Kadaire for them to push it to the K-Tech github

jolly saddle Apr 27, 2025, 3:34 AM

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terrible news for the zurbin economy

jolly saddle Apr 30, 2025, 12:13 AM

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wait so does the fission EIME gain anything over the base model?
or is it just cheaper?

oak echo Apr 30, 2025, 12:37 AM

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pretty much just cheaper, the fission reactor is technically a downgrade compared to stock EIME assuming price isn't considered

jolly saddle May 1, 2025, 4:17 AM

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@oak echo here ya go

📎 dV.zip

oak echo May 1, 2025, 4:29 AM

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first thing i would say would to update derelict delights, you are using a version ~2 months older than the current version

jolly saddle May 1, 2025, 4:30 AM

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yep
thats a good idea

oak echo May 1, 2025, 4:31 AM

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as for the event itself, i don't know why it's spawning several OCPs, just i know it was attempting to spawn several at once. what's weird is that they only stopped trying to spawn once the THICC had despawned

jolly saddle May 1, 2025, 4:32 AM

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lmaoooo

oak echo May 1, 2025, 4:35 AM

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i mean, i guess it's similar to the recent bug with MoreMinerals where there was an abundance of beryllium, it's there if you want to capitalize on it, but while i can't figure it out there's nothing to stop you from capitalizing on it

oak echo May 4, 2025, 7:16 PM

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ripe pasture May 4, 2025, 11:26 PM

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oak echo

given the option I would preffer having more compatibility than not

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even if that needed a dependency

foggy spear May 5, 2025, 7:08 PM

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oak echo new hotfix: * Fixed missing polygons on the OCP-Snap https://github.com/rwqfsfas...

Three issues with the OCP-209 on 2.2.3

First, I'm encountering what may be the same issue with the OCP-209 in 2.2.3. Arms (RA ORD) grabbing ore out of the bay and odd behaviour for ore and ringrods around the bay threshold.

Second. I have an inexplicable (and unusable) High Stress Mount on the OCP-209 I bought from the dealer. The Ship came with standard equipment for a KF-37, and had the KF-37's rail gun on this mount. I've had no bugs just leaving it empty. Didn't try launching with it filled.

Third, the rear left docking bay is unable to have a THICC return to the cradle after ejection. The THICC instead gets stuck at an angle and the cradle pulls about 600MW trying to constantly pull it in.

oak echo May 5, 2025, 8:14 PM

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i'll see what i can do about it

oak echo May 5, 2025, 10:22 PM

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foggy spear Three issues with the OCP-209 on 2.2.3 First, I'm encountering what may be the ...

I have the issue of the K37 loadout being applied to the OCP fixed, but i wasn't able to replicate the other issues. If you could get screenshots or video footage of it happening (the latter would be more preferable), that would be great

ripe pasture May 6, 2025, 11:49 AM

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oak echo

would it be possible to make the dependency optional?
so the extra compatability is disabled if the dependency is not found

oak echo May 6, 2025, 3:39 PM

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i mean, yeah that could be done, although in reality it's a heck of a lot easier to just add a second mod into the zip and call it a day

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given the complications with doing that, i'll probably end up having a second release of IoE that comes packaged with any dependancies, as doing that does break down the moment updates to the dependancy happen, or you're using other mods that need or are the dependancy

ripe pasture May 6, 2025, 3:51 PM

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oak echo i mean, yeah that could be done, although in reality it's a heck of a lot easier...

I mean wouldn't it be just wrapping all the extra code in an if statement?

oak echo May 6, 2025, 4:00 PM

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i mean, yeah you could check through that, and it likely would work, although the issue more so comes with sustainability. if i do ever plan to add more equipment, it's a decent bit inconvenient to work with the legacy method than it would to just include the necessary methods in the dependancy mod

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also, something i forgot to add, but checking for mod dependancies can be pretty unreliable and/or time consuming. if the mod's zip file name changes in a way that breaks all of the terms it searches for, it fails a check in that sense, or alternatively you could open up each of the zip files and manually check for the mod's name and version (as the modloader does not store it currently), which in of itself adds potentially several seconds to the boot time, as even on some of the more powerful hardware i've seen it add 1/8 to 1/4 of a second minimum per mod zip it checks

foggy spear May 8, 2025, 7:01 PM

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Going to keep poking at the OCP issues I had today, but a different detail:

Auxiliary Cargo equipment is available for the K37, KX37 RAM, and K44, but not the KR37 Runamisi

oak echo May 8, 2025, 7:13 PM

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yup, that's intentional.

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some cargo bays are too small or too oddly shaped to fit it

foggy spear May 11, 2025, 11:34 AM

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Got to mucking about with the OCP DD model because I was bothered by the bay extension placement being to the fore instead of the aft.

Seems to fit quite nicely aft (w/ associeted kit as well) if you mirror the entire bay door assembly so it opens counterclockwise instead of clockwise.

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Big faff. Absolutely the kind of junkyard mod I want to see miners doing to ships. But nice to actually be able to get ore into the processor with the main torch (I found the bulker unit unusable trying to get ore into the fore bay with thrusters)

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Also would justify - like with the snap - the additional cost and having to disable the geometry assist

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since the bay door opening aft-end first is a great way to dump all of your cargo the way the autopilot tries to do it

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(Also corrected the rear port and starboard ports being flipped, while i was there)

faint flower May 13, 2025, 10:06 PM

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oak echo May 13, 2025, 10:16 PM

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sort of, it's more so seeing how much people are ok with a minor inconvenience with a second download, and if not if they'd rather wait a little longer for releases to go through.

Currently, as it stands, there are about 20% or so of people who don't want to deal with a dependency mod, which is not an insignificant percentage. The best solution I see is that I'll be making a second line of releases that have the dependency packaged in for those who don't want to deal with it. I can't really say how much extra work this will take me, but I don't presume it's enough to be any major inconvenience

faint flower May 13, 2025, 10:17 PM

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oak echo May 14, 2025, 7:45 AM

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new release for 2.3.0:

Fixed issue where the K37 loadout was used on all non-variant ships, which resulted in ghost slots on several ships when purchased from the dealership
Cleaned up InputMap modification code. You should no longer get any errors with the equipment toggles added by this mod (9, -, and =)
Refactored how equipment is added, This release, and all releases of this branch from here on out, will require HevLib 1.5 or newer. Without this dependency, no equipment or equipment slots added via this mod will show up at Enceladus Prime.
- If you would rather not download a second mod as a dependency, please see the P fork of this mod. Do note, that specific version cannot guarantee any compatibility with other mods due to an internal instance of HevLib, which may or may not override any dedicated instances of the mod, which itself may cause other mods that require it to stop working, IoE included.
- The P fork can be found here.
Fixed DMW Cannon not appearing on the middle left low-stress hardpoint on Titans, OCPs, Bald Eagles, Wasps, and Tsukuyomi Frigates

For reference

Main Branch Mod: here (HevLib 1.5 Dependancy)
P-Fork Dependancyless Mod: here

timber veldt May 14, 2025, 6:05 PM

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hello, I'm new to modding delta V here and I cant seem to get this mod to work? I've downloaded both https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.3.0 and https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/HevLib/releases then put them into dV Rings of Saturn\mods but when I look at the equipment menu in Encleadus there are no new modules (such as the OCP-209 having four docking modules).

I've tried this on an old save with lots of ships and on a new save with the starter ship. Do I need to get a modded ship in order to access the new equipment listed in the repository?

Do I need to to download a mod menu to ensure that Hevlib is loaded first?

GitHub

Release 2.3.0 · rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite

Fixed issue where the K37 loadout was used on all non-variant ships, which resulted in ghost slots on several ships when purchased from the dealership
Cleaned up InputMap modification code. You sho...

GitHub

Releases · rwqfsfasxc100/HevLib

Library mod for ΔV: Rings of Saturn that provides several useful functions - rwqfsfasxc100/HevLib

oak echo May 14, 2025, 6:06 PM

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do you have the --enable-mods command line enabled for the game at all?

timber veldt May 14, 2025, 6:07 PM

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yep

oak echo May 14, 2025, 6:08 PM

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hm, do you mind sending your logs at all? they should be located at %appdata%/dV/logs

timber veldt May 14, 2025, 6:08 PM

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which ones?

oak echo May 14, 2025, 6:09 PM

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zipping the entire folder should be good, i don't know which will be necessary if at all, so just doing them all should mean for less fuss

timber veldt May 14, 2025, 6:09 PM

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k

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📎 logs.zip

oak echo May 14, 2025, 6:10 PM

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by the looks of it, mods weren't actually being loaded the last time you launched the game

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which is weird, because the command line looks correct to me

timber veldt May 14, 2025, 6:12 PM

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oh you've got to be kidding me

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i just tried relaunching the game

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not the first time i swear

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and now its working

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I hate computers

oak echo May 14, 2025, 6:13 PM

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it happens, at least it's working now

timber veldt May 14, 2025, 6:13 PM

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Thanks for modding this game!

I cant wait to check out your mod here

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wait a second

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I think I might know what my issue may have been thinking about it now

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when the game looks for the mod folder in the game directory, does it look for a folder named mods or a folder with mods in the name?

oak echo May 14, 2025, 6:16 PM

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it's a folder named mods

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it's case sensitive as well from what i can tell

timber veldt May 14, 2025, 6:19 PM

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ok maybe not then, I had some other mods in a folder called inactive mods in the game directory. I renamed it to inactive moods a bit ago in case that was the issue, I don't know if that's what fixed it or if its a coincidence.

oak echo May 14, 2025, 6:20 PM

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most likely a coincidence, i don't really know what else could've caused it other than the ccommand line having a typo, or it being added after launching the game

oak echo May 14, 2025, 6:21 PM

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timber veldt Thanks for modding this game! I cant wait to check out your mod here

anyway, yeah thank you. i don't really like taking too much credit for this, most of the work was done by spaceDOTexe, i just maintain it, but thanks anyway

timber veldt May 14, 2025, 6:41 PM

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I figured out the issue I was having, turns out if you launch the game from the executable in the game folder it doesn't read the command line from steam.

When I was messing around trying to get mods to work I was always launching with the executable in the game directory because it was just conveniently there.

Thanks for responding so quickly. Sorry for wasting your time it never occurred to me that could be an issue.

oak echo May 14, 2025, 6:43 PM

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lol not at all. i do launch from the executable a lot because my friends find it annoying that they get notifications every few minutes that i'm playing the game, one of the downsides of modding with a steam installation. I just assumed that most people launched directly from steam. i'll update the modding guide on steam for how to launch with command line without steam, as I do have a batch file that does it for me

winter sandal May 14, 2025, 8:23 PM

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Creating shortcut and adding --enable-mods at the end works just as fine.
"something\dV Rings of Saturn\Delta-V.exe" --enable-mods

oak echo May 14, 2025, 8:27 PM

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oh that's neat, i didn't know it could be done with shortcuts

ripe pasture May 14, 2025, 11:33 PM

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timber veldt and now its working

the machine spirit felt that you contacted tech support and decided to fix itself

oak echo May 15, 2025, 3:55 AM

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P-Fork specific update:

Fixed critical crash caused when loaded with mods that load equipment on init
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-of-Enceladus-Rewrite---P-FORK/releases/tag/2.3.0-HL1

Anyone using the base IoE should not have to directly worry, however HevLib does need to be updated for the same fix to apply

flint hull May 15, 2025, 3:57 PM

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I was playing normally without the mod then i installed the hevlib to get it working and now no games load, they instantly make the game go not responding and i cant play. this is my modlist plus save edit (also didnt know if i should star a new one or ask here so)

oak echo May 15, 2025, 3:57 PM

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that was an issue with HevLib that was fixed in an update to it yesterday; see it's latest release page

GitHub

Release 1.5.2 · rwqfsfasxc100/HevLib

Improved efficiency of the mod main

The examples it had previously are no longer necessary, given that a more verbose documentation is provided with the mod anyway

Reversed the load polarity of ...

flint hull May 15, 2025, 3:58 PM

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i have the 1.5.2 version of hevlib

oak echo May 15, 2025, 3:59 PM

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i see. i know that saves load a little slower due to the way equipment is added, but i've not seen any crashes from it. i'll give it a look myself rq

flint hull May 15, 2025, 4:00 PM

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okay, ty for the quick reply btw

oak echo May 15, 2025, 4:04 PM

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it loads fine with those six mods installed. i am getting some errors from SaveEdit, however they happen when the title screen is being loaded, which I'm guessing you can reach

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just done it a second time to confirm. it does take a couple of seconds to load, and does show the load icon and act similarly to a crashing application if you make any inputs, but it doesn't crash

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if you're ok with it, can you try it again? If it crashes, do you mind zipping up the save folder, as I'd need the logs from it. It's located at %appdata%/dV

flint hull May 15, 2025, 4:08 PM

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wierd, np ill get those save files to ya, idk why its doing this

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im guessing i send you the most recent DV video file?

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or is it the DVB file

oak echo May 15, 2025, 4:13 PM

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i'd want the entire save folder, as there's things i'd need to reference from several files

flint hull May 15, 2025, 4:13 PM

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ah okay

oak echo May 15, 2025, 4:14 PM

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most of it i likely won't need, but i can't say what i will and won't need until i take a look at them, so it's on the side of caution and to make it a bit easier on your end to need only one upload.

flint hull May 15, 2025, 4:15 PM

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ye i sent it to ya

oak echo May 15, 2025, 4:23 PM

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hm, i don't see anything that directly causes it to crash, and your save loads fine for me. if you're ok with it, would you mind sending the mods zips you use so i can directly test with them instead, as I may have a difference with my own set?

flint hull May 15, 2025, 4:24 PM

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yeah i can do that no problem

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📎 mods.rar

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also im going to be doing stuff here so i wont be responding fo a couple of hours (maybe i will have to see how it goes)

oak echo May 15, 2025, 4:27 PM

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alright, i'll see what i can do with what you've provided

flint hull May 15, 2025, 4:28 PM

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scratch that it appears I am not needed yet so I can respond :/

oak echo May 15, 2025, 4:29 PM

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lol alright

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weird, i cannot get it to crash whatsoever. both running it in the debugger and as the game standalone work for me

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it does take a few seconds to load into the save though

flint hull May 15, 2025, 4:36 PM

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hmmm my drives and PC are dying on my end so it might be that my PC is taking forever to load, I tried to leave it for 5 min but I'll try and leave it longer after I get done making food here

faint flower May 15, 2025, 4:40 PM

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flint hull May 15, 2025, 4:42 PM

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hmmm, the only thing I see similar is moar radars

oak echo May 15, 2025, 4:44 PM

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If you're ok packaging up the save folder and sending it to me, that would work best

faint flower May 15, 2025, 4:44 PM

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oak echo May 15, 2025, 4:45 PM

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Of course, I can still work with my own installation of those mods, so don't stress about it

faint flower May 15, 2025, 4:46 PM

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oak echo May 15, 2025, 4:48 PM

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flint hull hmmm my drives and PC are dying on my end so it might be that my PC is taking fo...

always possible that it could be the case. i do have plans to add a visualisation for how much of the equipment patching process is done, but i think i might prioritise that as it would likely help a lot with cases like yours

flint hull May 15, 2025, 4:49 PM

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okay, im going to try and start a new save now and let it run for like 30 min loading so ill see if its really a mod issue

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ok i let it load for like 20~ min and it didnt work, its prob the mods

oak echo May 15, 2025, 5:14 PM

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i'm giving a second look at things, and i think there is one potential way that the issue could be prevented, but I do need to readjust loading as there's a few issues with the implementation that cause a similar crash

flint hull May 15, 2025, 6:20 PM

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alright

oak echo May 15, 2025, 9:40 PM

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don't know why i didn't check this earlier, but this was in the engine log. What it tells me, though, is that there is a disconnect between how stuff is loading, which as you say may be a result of the speed of your pc. On the plus side, the fix i was already working on seems like the most straightforward approach to it

faint flower May 16, 2025, 2:47 AM

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oak echo May 16, 2025, 2:51 AM

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sure, no harm in doing so

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:16 AM

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Newer version of the mod seems to struggle with actually applying components, went back to an older version. Yes, I have Hevlib installed, and it is updated to max. For whatever reason, when buying a component, it doesn't reliability replace the one I bought.
Kinda existing half bought with the original non bugged component still there

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This isn't where the items just don't spawn and it instead leaves an empty spot, the items are registered as purchased, but not really.
Quantum thrusters.

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I don't have any other mods that change the way the components are implemented, only ones that add more (derelict delights being one of them, with some bootleg parts.)

oak echo May 17, 2025, 6:25 AM

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maybe restarting your game could help? I can't replicate the issue, and equipment swaps out just fine for me

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:26 AM

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I've opened the game multiple times today

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and installed and reinstalled the mods straight from github

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I could only assume it may be due to the crashing I encountered earlier when fucking around with mods that the base game may be a bit borked
It was just modmenu and save editor not really agreeing and modmenu caused crashes after using saveditor

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I'll just wait before trying it again, I wanna be able to play the game lol

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If I do experience the issue again I'll be sure to send the logs

oak echo May 17, 2025, 6:28 AM

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alright

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:29 AM

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It's getting late but I'll see about testing a little

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I was specifically using the non p-fork (base version)

oak echo May 17, 2025, 6:32 AM

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hm, that one should be more stable. perhaps if you can send me a list of mods you have installed I could get a closer representation to how it behaves on your end

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:32 AM

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Things are kinda just... missing

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:33 AM

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oak echo hm, that one should be more stable. perhaps if you can send me a list of mods yo...

From top to bottom:
Derelict Delights
Hevlib
Bootleg ERM & PDT Laser
AchieveDeez
Modmenu
IoER

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📎 dv_log_0.txt

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Game crashed and broke when using the P fork, I am assuming I need to take out the mods and rezip them lol

oak echo May 17, 2025, 6:36 AM

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that one isn't intended for use with other content mods, i kinda slapped a no warranty label on it as it will behave unexpectedly due to how it's packaged

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:37 AM

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Oh okay

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I'm fine just using an older version, I will try reinstalling the base game to see if that helps.

oak echo May 17, 2025, 6:37 AM

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it was more so for people who didn't want to download HevLib alongside having to download IoE, not much else for it really

oak echo May 17, 2025, 6:37 AM

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oak echo

see:

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:38 AM

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Understood

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Basically just everything included

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Game is installing again

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Deleted config and cache files too.

oak echo May 17, 2025, 6:39 AM

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just thought, does the equipment dissapear after loading a pre-2.3 IoE save in 2.3?

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:39 AM

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Oh, I can test that soon

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Just give me a moment.

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Things are still gone after a reinstall.

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Moving back to old version.

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Things are back, as I expect them to be, in the old version.

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I am assuming this may be something more akin to a save data issue, I did use save edit...

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But only did so to give myself some starting cash, nothing else, and disabled it right after.

oak echo May 17, 2025, 6:44 AM

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it could be an issue with the config, if it's ok with you, would you mind sending me the save at all?

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:44 AM

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Yeah, one sec

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📎 IoER.cfg

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(I don't have anything too personal in the save data, I think the worst one could do is suspicious ship names, but besides that, I don't think it wouldn't be too much of an issue besides paranoia)

oak echo May 17, 2025, 6:47 AM

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yeah, most of the personal data would be in the logs, assuming the game is run on the C: drive

flat mango May 17, 2025, 6:50 AM

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I don't even think you could even really take that much as it's all diagnostic information

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Most you'd probably get is my steam ID but you wouldn't even really have that much use out of my profile page
This is a singleplayer game 😛

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god

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god dammit

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New account

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Gonna turn off emoji conversion immediately

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Good riddance :/

oak echo May 17, 2025, 7:17 AM

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this problem keeps on pulling up dead ends. the equipment is still there, it's like it's being invalidated on the ship side before it gets added to the upgrades menu. i think i might need to make a change as to when the equipment is added for the fix, but it may take a while to sort out

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i did find a typo with IoE however, so while that's in my mind i'll make a release on that

flat mango May 17, 2025, 7:20 AM

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Aight, take care

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Thank you for your work.

oak echo May 17, 2025, 7:30 AM

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Updated to 2.3.1:

Fixed issue where the second iSMB array in Nakamura Dynamics's larger couplings did not provide the additional 700 MJ of storage over the single units

Main Release: here (HevLib 1.5.4)
P-Fork: here

oak echo May 17, 2025, 3:45 PM

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Updated to 2.3.2:

Adjusted load order of TheRing.tscn to prevent conflict with mods that modify dialogue
Main Release: here

flat mango May 17, 2025, 7:09 PM

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I'll test it out when I get the chance if this is a fix to the issue i had

oak echo May 17, 2025, 7:18 PM

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it doesn't fix that specific issue, this one is rather an issue with dialogue not updating with derelict delights. i'm going to try to get the equipment to be added earlier than when enceladus is loaded, and if it doesn't work, then i'm probably going to label it as a similar case to when this mod split from space's IoE

flat mango May 17, 2025, 7:33 PM

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Alright, understood

oak echo May 18, 2025, 7:16 PM

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oak echo

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How much would people care if I gave this mod a dependency for the sake of compatibility? This would mean an additional mod you would need to download maybe once or twice at worse, assuming no issues arise.

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I wouldn't care / I wouldn't mind

flat mango May 18, 2025, 7:16 PM

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Oh nice

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I would've voted for the winning answer anyways

oak echo May 25, 2025, 10:23 PM

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Updated to 2.3.3:

Reverted to using traditional Upgrades.tscn replacements for the addition of RCS and numerical equipment (mass driver magazines, propellant tanks, fission rods, ultracapcitors and turbines)
Brought mod main logging to a more modern standard
Main Release: here (HevLib: here )
P-Fork: here

faint flower May 26, 2025, 1:27 AM

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oak echo May 26, 2025, 1:32 AM

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depends, mostly if i have time and feel like making one. I did add a handful not too long ago, so there's always those to look for

faint flower May 26, 2025, 1:38 AM

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oak echo May 26, 2025, 1:39 AM

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the salvaged OCP, fission EIME, and CK prospector variants

wise plank May 26, 2025, 4:36 PM

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Question: Does IoE have a Kitsune with dual opposing hardpoints, capable of mounting Gungirs?

oak echo May 26, 2025, 4:38 PM

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not yet

flat mango May 27, 2025, 2:14 AM

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oak echo depends, mostly if i have time and feel like making one. I did add a handful not...

Can we pretty please get a dedicated drone carrier frigate

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@oak echo it works for me, the new update functions

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Specifically installed newest version of hevlib & IoE

flat mango May 27, 2025, 2:35 AM

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parts are there and things are working as intended btw

oak echo May 27, 2025, 2:37 AM

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flat mango Can we pretty please get a dedicated drone carrier frigate

Doesn't the titan already sorta fit this? It does have 6 slots for companions

flat mango May 27, 2025, 3:41 AM

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I want m o r e

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Though if I gotta be fair the refurbished frigate idea was probably from the previous mod owner/manager

oak echo May 27, 2025, 3:46 AM

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It was, although if you want more slots, I believe there's an extended version of the K225 in the ZKY mod, although I've not used it myself

flat mango May 27, 2025, 3:47 AM

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Yeah I remember wanting to try it out but it was the period where I was having a lot of crashing issues.

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I'll just see about trying that out

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If I had to come up with the design, it would possibly be in a similar vein to that refurbished racing drone/craft. Something from an older era but still has a niche hobby to it.
While instead of racing, what do you think would be a better fit for the new main purpose?

oak echo May 27, 2025, 3:50 AM

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Probably not too far from the use cases of the kitsune, quick hab runs and POI updating

flat mango May 27, 2025, 3:55 AM

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An old voyager type ship?

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While albeit not nearly as good for mining it sports high mobility and efficiency, while being larger than the kitsune

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Like it's one of the original craft that went to moons and whatnot, and people want to still give it a use. It may as well be a mesuem exhibit /hj

oak echo May 27, 2025, 3:58 AM

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Fair enough

flat mango May 27, 2025, 4:01 AM

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Probably would have a bit of EM resistance

dark canopy May 27, 2025, 11:25 AM

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Having a problem with recent versions of the mod, though unsure if this is the right place to report it. Basically, when i try to install cargo bay variant from this mod (such as R-A mk2) it would do so, but won't function, and you will be able to install another one on top of it. Additionally, short version of K255 (K225-SH) is somehow broken - when i try to select it in at dealers it won't display it's stats or description, instead displaying previous selected ship stats. These problems persist regardless of other mods (tested), though i do have some other ones. I am on the 1.74.19 GOG, mod version is 2.3.3, HevLib 1.5.10.

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📎 IoER.cfg

oak echo May 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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dark canopy

I do need the entire save folder packaged to be able to debug (as if you were reporting a bug for the vanilla game; see https://discord.com/channels/426287934870781952/1067385553261166602), as I don't really have much to go off of with just the save files

oak echo May 27, 2025, 12:28 PM

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ok, i was able to replicate and fix the issue with the K225-SH, but I could not get the issue with the MPU to happen at all. the only case i can think where that issue would arise would be if a cache made from before IoE 2.3.3 still existed, but HevLib 1.5.10 should have fixed any cases where that could happen

dark canopy May 27, 2025, 1:02 PM

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oak echo I do need the entire save folder packaged to be able to debug (as if you were re...

Here.

📎 dV.7z

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Here's how it looks.

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If it helps - this bug isn't present on 2.2.3 if i remember correctly.

oak echo May 27, 2025, 3:02 PM

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dark canopy Here.

this is running an old version of IoE, please check with 2.3.3

dark canopy May 27, 2025, 3:06 PM

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oak echo this is running an old version of IoE, please check with 2.3.3

Newest version.

oak echo May 27, 2025, 3:07 PM

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i will need logs for it, as right now it works completely fine on my side using 2.3.3

dark canopy May 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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oak echo i will need logs for it, as right now it works completely fine on my side using ...

Here, just after last screenshot. It's on the second save, i bought a new ship and R-A MPU Mk2 was "already bought" so i was able to return it from trade-in for 0 dollars. I had to remove cache folder content as it was too big for discord, i hope it's not relevant.

📎 dV.7z

oak echo May 27, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Thx, just a note that in future you're ok to include it as there's a 50mb limit for this server. I don't think I'll need it specifically but I'll let you know

dark canopy May 27, 2025, 3:18 PM

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oak echo Thx, just a note that in future you're ok to include it as there's a 50mb limit ...

Sure, but it was over 70 i believe? I'l send it separately in case you'l need it.

oak echo May 27, 2025, 3:36 PM

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mine is just about 10mb, but i guess it can change

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hm, by the looks of it, same case as last time where the cache didn't get cleared. i might actually need the cache from your end. if you'd rather not bother, it is just a simple case of deleting the cache folder for HevLib which should fix it

oak echo May 27, 2025, 4:09 PM

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Updated to 2.3.4

Fixed missing dealership promotional render for the K225-SH

Main Release: here (HevLib )
P-Fork: here

dark canopy May 27, 2025, 7:10 PM

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oak echo hm, by the looks of it, same case as last time where the cache didn't get cleare...

📎 cache.7z

oak echo May 27, 2025, 7:20 PM

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yeah, doesn't look like it cleared properly. try using the new HevLib version, and if that doesn't work could I please have the logs

dark canopy May 27, 2025, 7:34 PM

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oak echo yeah, doesn't look like it cleared properly. try using the new HevLib version, a...

Manually removing hevlib cache fixed it. I'm on the last hevlib and IoE. Thanks for all the help.

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flat mango May 27, 2025, 9:23 PM

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I would like to mention I specifically have an issue with the BlasTR thruster not loading on my Titan properly, log included. It does not load all of the thrusters, including the side, two front, and two back.
I do not know why installing a separate mod would make specifically a few thrusters for a specific mod like this not function. deleted hevlib cache for this too.

📎 dv_log_0.txt

oak echo May 27, 2025, 9:36 PM

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weird, they work fine on my end. might be a visual thing perhaps as the C50s don't display properly, but function just fine

flat mango May 27, 2025, 9:48 PM

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I tested, literally cannot brake

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Let me just grab the most recent version

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Things might've been updated overnight or something

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They literally just aren't there, as I am testing rn in Minding

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Savegame included with a hevlib doc file or whatever

📎 dv_log_0.txt 📎 library_documentation.json

oak echo May 27, 2025, 10:12 PM

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ok, i've replicated your setup more closely, and it's an issue with ZKY

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i don't know where it is, as i'm not getting any errors or anything from the equipment system, so you might have to bring it to Za'krin

flat mango May 28, 2025, 1:26 AM

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I got that mod exclusively for the bigger titan

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I'll let them know though.

oak echo May 30, 2025, 1:26 AM

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Updated to 2.3.5:

Adjusted method of adding equipment to work with HevLib 1.6.0

Main Release: here (HevLib )
P-Fork: here

gentle mantle Jun 5, 2025, 2:00 PM

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Is it correct that KX37 RAM can't install Locking Bolt although it has combined processed storage?

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The Pigeon also state that it has dry weight of 70k but if you take everything off to the lightest it actually has about 20k

oak echo Jun 5, 2025, 3:31 PM

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gentle mantle Is it correct that KX37 RAM can't install Locking Bolt although it has combined ...

it isn't although I'd guess the reasoning why it's given them is that it's a modification of the stock K37, which would use them. i'll change it rq

oak echo Jun 5, 2025, 3:32 PM

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gentle mantle The Pigeon also state that it has dry weight of 70k but if you take everything o...

the dry masses weren't written by me. i'll take a look at how they're decided, and i'll make a change to it if necessary

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hm, basing it off of the K37, the dry mass stated is slightly higher than the minimum mass without remass. i'll base it somewhat off of the pelican considering they're similar vessels

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Updated to 2.3.6:

The KX37-RAM now uses the correct hold modifiers.
Lowered the dry mass of the Pidgeon Prospector

Main Release: here (HevLib )
P-Fork: here

gentle mantle Jun 5, 2025, 5:51 PM

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👍

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 1:01 AM

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just updated to the main release (and installed HevLib)
and
uh

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 1:50 AM

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weird. missing and duplicated controls. lemmie take a look rq

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ok, i see the duplicated controls and have them fixed, which is weird as i am 100% sure that i set them up correctly, but it's weird it's not showng minus or equals as options, as both of them were controls set up for docking bays after they broke

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ok, through the editor with the fix, this is what it should look like after the patch. i'll build it rq and test with the base game to make sure it's consistent

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ok, at least on my test of it from the base executable, it works. lemmie push a release rq

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Updated to 2.3.7:

The Tsukuyomi should now use the proper control schemes for hardpoints
Main Release: here (HevLib )
P-Fork: here

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@jolly saddle see if this works for you

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:10 AM

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tyyyy

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will update once this dive is done

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:18 AM

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y'know, jexia since you're a frequent flier of the tsukuyomi, how overpowered do you see it in comparison to other ships?

i was thinking that maybe it and a few of the other IoE ships could do with a balance in the way you obtain them, perhaps through a quest of some form

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:22 AM

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oh yeah the tsuku should absolutely be a quest thing

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but in terms of capability

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its extremely capable

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but you REALLY have to invest into it

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especially if you want the higher end equipment

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like its arguably THE best ship for endgame

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in terms of balance i would probably ask that the cargo bay be made narrower?

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well
not really balance since even that wouldnt bring a downside

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just with how ridiculously large it is

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but the cargo bay is obscenely sized

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:27 AM

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yeah that's fair, i'll have to think about how it could be nerfed, as i don't think reducing the cargo bay would exactly make it any less op, so there would have to be some other downside

as for the equipment side, it iss 35+ million for the vessel in the dealership itself before anything. (although thinking about it, this is pretty much the main downside to it)

i suppose that could be one thing that a quest could do, help lower the initial hurdle but make you have to really work for it outside of being really good at making money

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the vanilla game does have two good starting points for how a quest would work for the two questline specific ships, being the modified titan with a search around and find out a story type of quest, and bald eagle with a find me and pay an obscene fee as i don't wanna give up my ship type of quest

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:29 AM

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yea

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i'd go for one similar to the titan M

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:31 AM

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yeah. i did consider having combat be a factor, but I don't think it would be exactly hard with it's current AI.

pretty much the one difficulty with the search around quest is actually writing it, but i'll think of something for it

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:31 AM

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maybe you hear about a rare ship collector who's looking to make a trade

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or smth

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:32 AM

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yeah, something like that could work. could even have it tie into the major faction conflict or something, there's actually quite a bit that could be put into it with a ship like it

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i just thought of another one: you buy out the BBW

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would be really funny of a thing, and i could also have the rest of vilcy get mad at you for it, but that's another idea out there for it

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:35 AM

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that would be funny but that doesnt sound like a greaaatttt idea

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:36 AM

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yeah, would need to be an obscene amount (like 100 million) to make sense, and I don't really feel like it would exactly be a good idea doing that

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:43 AM

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oak echo Updated to 2.3.7: * The Tsukuyomi should now use the proper control schemes for ...

didnt seem to work

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ok well now controls arent reused

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in a weird way at least

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:43 AM

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just the minus and equals controls aren't appearing i'm guessing

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:44 AM

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nope

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i do appreciate the granularity but honestly i think having the low stress mounts share controls is fine

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:45 AM

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i suppose, mind if i get a copy of your save folder at all, i might be able to see what's going wrong on that side as it might be something with how the controls are setup. if i can't figure it out, i can always revert it

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:46 AM

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this isnt a major pain

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this is entirely usable as is

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its a little weird but it completely makes sense

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how are you expecting it to work?

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:47 AM

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pretty much it should go 1-7 for the main hardpoints, then the docking bays get 8, 9, -, and =

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actually, just thought, do you have 9 either?

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:47 AM

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nope

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:48 AM

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hm, that's weird

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:48 AM

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did this need an update for HevLib?

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:48 AM

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not really, the change is entirely IoE side

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the only things i can think of it not working are either A: the controls are not being loaded for whatever reason, or B: they're not bound in the config

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on a completely separate note to this, i just realized how much is loaded when the library re-caches equipment, as this was the first time in a while i loaded up IoE using CMD

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anyway, i think for this issue, i might be able to solve it via either the engine log or the config file, but really up to you if you want me to take a look as it works fine on my end

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:51 AM

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jexia jumpscare

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:51 AM

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indeed lol

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:52 AM

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oak echo anyway, i think for this issue, i might be able to solve it via either the engin...

this is perfectly doable

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as is

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its a tiny inconvenience
and thats it

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:52 AM

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alr

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 2:54 AM

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weird that its different for you tho lol

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ahhh computers

oak echo Jun 8, 2025, 2:54 AM

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absolutely. i guess one thing i haven't tried is wiping the config and seeing what it does then

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oh huh, that would do it

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weird that it generated the config just fine afterwards, lemmie restart

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ok yeah, giving it a restart fixed it

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that's bizarre

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anyway, that should be the fix

jolly saddle Jun 8, 2025, 10:09 AM

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oak echo yeah that's fair, i'll have to think about how it could be nerfed, as i don't th...

and yeah its extremely expensive

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ESPECIALLY once you start fitting the higher end drives for RCS

flat mango Jun 8, 2025, 3:12 PM

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Personally I remember finding a salvageable Tsuki frigate myself as a random encounter and accidentally bloated it up as I tried to take it home :(

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Why not have it be a salvage thing you have to return to? Deliver components back and forth. You discover this ship floating around, holes punched through it from an agreed old battle as it's started to collect ice chunks on its hull, explaining how it could blend it to other systems like Scrapwright recovery options satellites and other long range detection methods

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How you get it back to functioning is first by bringing components over or repairing them. If it was possible to program into the game I would've suggested a unique text box interaction that only happens if you have the OME drones equipped. But maybe for the repair process you will need to find HAL-9000 life pods and to basically feed them to the frigate so you can strip the pods for parts. By the time you get it running you'll need to break apart the asteroids yourself or they may even just melt off the ship if you fed it enough components

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I'm primarily thinking of "stages" of the repair process may work better. Every week or few days you'll need to return to it and pay for components with encelledollars, originally payment for basic systems repairs so you know what you're working with

oak echo Jun 9, 2025, 2:21 AM

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something along those lines would probably be pretty good, possible yes, but would be a lot of work for a system like it.

ironically, the idea to use maintenance drones is actually the easiest out of any of them (the comms system is surprisingly complex in the features it has, the code to handle it wouldn't be too much to add), for the other ones, it would likely require a completely new system to be put in place (such as the ability to put stuff in cargo to start a dive), or just a lot of 3D modeling (such as for parts to bring to the BBW, models for a damaged frigate, etc)

the idea for repair progression (leaving crew to work on it) might actually be a way of doing it, however it does seem a bit over the top considering that it would probably just make more sense to do it at enceladus anyway

oak echo Jun 9, 2025, 3:08 AM

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oak echo on a completely separate note to this, i just realized how much is loaded when t...

oh yeah, almost forgot for when i posted it, @wise plank since you were asking a while back about the sheer amount of procesing that HevLib does to adds equipment to slots, this is about the best way i was able to visualize it loading stuff in real time if you're interested

gentle mantle Jun 9, 2025, 7:34 PM

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The KX37 RAM I owned is having both type of Mineral Hold Kits after 2.3.6 update. I guess it won't be for any new RAM spawn after this?

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idk if this RAM going to cause any problem if I keep using it so I'm going to sell it and get a new one

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Wow that is a lot of processed storage

oak echo Jun 9, 2025, 7:55 PM

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gentle mantle The KX37 RAM I owned is having both type of Mineral Hold Kits after 2.3.6 update...

Yeah it's a consequence of the change, the slot data from the old one still exists, just it won't function

oak echo Jun 9, 2025, 7:56 PM

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gentle mantle Wow that is a lot of processed storage

Yup, just has the smallest cargo bay volume out of any ship in the game

gentle mantle Jun 9, 2025, 9:36 PM

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Size of Bald Eagle it is seem

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Wonder how sluggish it would be at full capacity

winter sandal Jun 9, 2025, 9:47 PM

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oak echo Yup, just has the smallest cargo bay volume out of any ship in the game

So small I don't even see it listed in screenshot

oak echo Jun 9, 2025, 9:57 PM

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Good point, I just remember setting it equal to that of the baldie and I guess never wrote the stats for it

gentle mantle Jun 9, 2025, 10:16 PM

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Even the OCP with it cargo disc ripped out still list as "Cargo Bay Storage: Yes"

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😂

oak echo Jun 10, 2025, 3:32 AM

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turns out it wasn't just the CK-65 line of ships that was missing it, i'm making a patch rn

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Updated to 2.3.8:

Adjusted the canon of the PMS torch. It is now a true NTR, with nothing but a propellant line to the reactor and no additional tech used within it.
- Also adjusted the stats of the torch. It now has mass, and weighs in at 250 kg. It's price has been lowered to 4 thousand, and repairs now cost only 250 to perform.
Adjusted the stats of the Zurbin main drive. It now will sell for 1 million, which currently only affects the sell price of any Tsukuyomi frigates, and it's repair costs have also been increased to 50 thousand from 8 thousand.
Added missing cargo bay volumes to the Y-ME, CK-65 and CK-69 ships.
Added the vanilla-unobtainable laser point-defence turrets from vanilla. They now have the same unlocking requirements as the NDPT-4205

Main Release: here HevLib
P-Fork: here

jolly saddle Jun 10, 2025, 3:39 AM

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wooooooo

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did you end up nerfing the thrust of the zurbin?

oak echo Jun 10, 2025, 3:41 AM

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nope, i left the thrust the same. it just makes the frigate that little more expensive to buy, but more so tied to it's condition

jolly saddle Jun 10, 2025, 3:42 AM

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mhm
alr

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i am happy that you didnt tbh

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oh hey the keys work now!

oak echo Jun 10, 2025, 3:43 AM

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that's good

oak echo Jun 10, 2025, 3:44 AM

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jolly saddle i am happy that you didnt tbh

honestly, i wasn't planning on doing so either. the patches made to the torches for this update are more so to provide actual stats to vanilla equipment other than just using default values and calling it a day

jolly saddle Jun 10, 2025, 3:45 AM

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mhm

oak echo Jun 10, 2025, 3:52 AM

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honestly, i'm surprised it took this long for anyone to call BS on the PMS torch, i literally wrote those out in 5 mins without much thought whenever i did add it, at least it's mostly cleared up now. i guess that's what you get for accidentally putting the price at 400k for a mediocre torch

jolly saddle Jun 10, 2025, 9:07 AM

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is that correct????
576 tons????

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i would imagine not right lol

oak echo Jun 10, 2025, 1:57 PM

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It is correct, although I don't know if the hull is visually correct though now I'm giving it a look. It is intended as an internal storage focused ship, so I might have forgotten to add the visual parts that help sell that, as right now it does look too close to an ordinary prospector

brave sable Jun 10, 2025, 7:24 PM

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How does the SSE NANI Torch Refit wear work? I was flying with it and all of a sudden it started getting damaged while full burn and finally gave out completely.

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I am flying a Antonoff-Titan K225 by the way so maybe it is just the ship config causing increased wear.

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Also the save was vanilla before adding mods, forgot to mention that.

oak echo Jun 10, 2025, 8:10 PM

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It has the same damage model that the standard NANI has. Wear is used to tell how much of it's fuel is left, and it doesn't have too much fuel unfortunately, around 45-60 seconds of burn. It's not entirely intended, but a consequence of how the wear system works, but you can extend it's lifespan with maintenance drones however

gentle mantle Jun 11, 2025, 1:40 AM

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oak echo It is correct, although I don't know if the hull is visually correct though now ...

Hmm you're right. And the 12 crews limit also. Maybe change the hub bridge to OCP one might give it enough the different?

oak echo Jun 11, 2025, 1:42 AM

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Yeah, something along those lines and a larger hull footprint was something i was thinking

gentle mantle Jun 11, 2025, 10:36 AM

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Look like the Pigeon is missing "(per mineral)" indicator on its processed cargo

oak echo Jun 11, 2025, 8:07 PM

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yeah, a lot of the descriptions were made before they were added to vanilla, i'll make the fix rq

gentle mantle Jun 12, 2025, 8:57 AM

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The Stubby Titan also. Although I could make a guess which kind of cargo type they have judging by how large it is

winter sandal Jun 12, 2025, 11:06 AM

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OK720 specs list low stress two times, if you haven't changed anything from original IoE it should be 1 low stress and 4 docking bays.
CK-69 missed m^3 in cargo bay size.

oak echo Jun 12, 2025, 6:10 PM

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winter sandal OK720 specs list low stress two times, if you haven't changed anything from ori...

should be fixed now. i don't recall changing anything for the OK720, but it should now display docking bays

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honestly i might consider bringing webtranslate to this now, would make fixes like these a lot quicker to implement outside of a patch

gentle mantle Jun 13, 2025, 5:23 AM

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There a new KX37 RAM spawn in the dealer so I bought it and it still has double mineral hold kits

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The vanilla OCP-209 somehow gain 4 docking bays like 207, and 214 which isn't state in the stat card but can equip them. I have equip all 4 containers to show in this image

oak echo Jun 13, 2025, 5:42 AM

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gentle mantle There a new KX37 RAM spawn in the dealer so I bought it and it still has double ...

i'll give it a look. i do have a good idea what is causing this, being a problem with modifying the K37 as well, although the fix i'll be putting in place should fix it for good this time

oak echo Jun 13, 2025, 5:43 AM

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gentle mantle The vanilla OCP-209 somehow gain 4 docking bays like 207, and 214 which isn't st...

huh. it is intentional that it has docking bays, but i could've sworn the stats are modified. i might be either remembering the wrong thing, or it's jank with the translation server, but i'll get a fix in place for that

gentle mantle Jun 13, 2025, 2:29 PM

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oak echo huh. it is intentional that it has docking bays, but i could've sworn the stats ...

Vanilla OCP-209 doesn't have docking bays but if it is in IoE then it is as intended then. Just need to add it on the stat card

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On that note, does 214 DD suppose to not have auto-rotation on bay door open? The 207 SNAP doesn't have it but it state that in the description while 214 DD doesn't

oak echo Jun 13, 2025, 3:58 PM

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gentle mantle Vanilla OCP-209 doesn't have docking bays but if it is in IoE then it is as inte...

I probably should have phrased it better, it's intentional under the context of IoE. i'm well aware it's not a feature in vanilla, and it was one of the main features of the mod. iirc, it was plastered several times through the original's github

oak echo Jun 13, 2025, 3:58 PM

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gentle mantle On that note, does 214 DD suppose to not have auto-rotation on bay door open? Th...

it's intentional

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i could add it if you feel it's necessary, however it was not a part of IoE when i started porting it, so I didn't include it

gentle mantle Jun 13, 2025, 9:10 PM

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oak echo i could add it if you feel it's necessary, however it was not a part of IoE when...

I suppose add the description saying that it doesn't come with auto-rotation software like the Piranha would be enough

oak echo Jun 15, 2025, 6:31 AM

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Updated to 2.3.9:

Fixed missing thermal consumption stat for the ND-PMS torch
Added missing (per mineral) identifier to ship stats, and fixed equivalents for variable holds to line up with vanilla formatting
Fixed issue with the KX37 RAM's duplicated mineral hold kit slots
Added a note on the lack of the Deep Dish OCP's variable geometry assist capability

Main Release: here (HevLib )
P-Fork: here

brave sable Jun 16, 2025, 4:22 AM

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oak echo It has the same damage model that the standard NANI has. Wear is used to tell ho...

Ah ok

gentle mantle Jun 16, 2025, 7:05 PM

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oak echo Updated to 2.3.9: * Fixed missing thermal consumption stat for the ND-PMS torch ...

Took a quick glance and look like you fixed everything about ship's stat card, and description. Although I need to wait for a new KX37 RAM to spawn in the dealer to see if the duplicated hold kits is fixed

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👌

oak echo Jun 16, 2025, 7:07 PM

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yeah, only thing that's still missing is the modification to the OCP's stats, but that is still in the works (yesterday's release to HevLib contains most of the backend, however i do need to convert the translations to the new version before i can use it)

tall yacht Jun 18, 2025, 4:20 PM

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this unbricked my IoE save, thank you so much

oak echo Jun 21, 2025, 6:44 PM

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Probably best to make this announcement on this mod page considering it's the most popular out of any of the mods I develop.

I'm going to be gone for the next 2-3 months for work, and it will mean that long away from my PC, and also equally as likely from the internet as well, so I'm not going to be able to work on any mods until I get back.

Given that I'm not going to be able to make any fixes to mods, I've made a Google form that should be enough of a template to providing the information necessary to make a fix. I have also made it work for any of my mods, so it will be in one place for me to work through when I get back.

It's not a required thing at all, I will still accept bugs or feature requests made on a mod's GitHub, however I will be going through bugs reported through this form before any other reports.

The link to the form is as follows: https://forms.gle/vUoarawnYjy3hXJi9

Google Docs

Hev's Bug Report Form

As I am personally unable to respond to any bug reports fir a couple of months, this Google form will be used to keep track of bugs that arise. If any third party patches come through, please DM me directly on Discord with a link to the discussion so I can be made aware of it.

This is a parallel to how bug reports are done normally, and many pa...

crimson tundra Jul 28, 2025, 10:01 PM

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Am I missing something with the Rusatom-Antonoff MPP-N1?
It says it buffs the mineral processing rate by 140%. I have the fabricator MPU with a base 50% conversion rate, which I tuned to the maximum of a bit over 70%.
Assuming 140% means a 40% bonus, that should get me to 98%.
And if the 40% buff is on the base 50% untuned conversion rate, that should still be 90%.
But I just grabbed a chunk of over 400Kg Berillium and after processing I got 252Kg processed.
What am I missing?

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I have two fairly good geologists so I don't think the estimate was off by that much. When I was rocking the MPU with 90% mineral processing rate the numbers worked out about right.

thorny shell Jul 31, 2025, 6:10 PM

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huh lots of stuff has been added since i last checked

oak echo Jul 31, 2025, 7:01 PM

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crimson tundra Am I missing something with the Rusatom-Antonoff MPP-N1? It says it buffs the mi...

I would assume this is an issue with geologists, as at least in my experience they are inaccurate by a hundred or two kg, even on beryllium.

I'll still add it as a bug report so I don't forget to double check when I can

thorny shell Jul 31, 2025, 7:59 PM

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would i have to remove or disable the original IoE and install the revamp?
another question: how do i download from Github (i am dumbass i know but i need help)

ripe pasture Jul 31, 2025, 8:44 PM

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thorny shell would i have to remove or disable the original IoE and install the revamp? anoth...

the releases section

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the nexus mods versior is out of date btw

thorny shell Aug 1, 2025, 5:34 PM

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but do i need to remove my original version though?

ripe pasture Aug 1, 2025, 8:26 PM

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yeah, its not a patch or fix

thorny shell Aug 1, 2025, 8:26 PM

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ok cool

hidden hatch Aug 8, 2025, 11:33 AM

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This has probably been covered somewhere but I cannot find where, anyone know why certain NTCED parts don't work with IoE?

oak echo Aug 8, 2025, 11:55 AM

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I don't have a full answer for that, there's been a few reports that I've seen where NTCED doesn't work properly both with and without other mods. My guess would be that both mods modify nanodrone code, but I wouldn't have anything to back that up just yet

hidden hatch Aug 8, 2025, 1:29 PM

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oak echo I don't have a full answer for that, there's been a few reports that I've seen w...

Does IoE add drones?

oak echo Aug 8, 2025, 1:33 PM

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Yes, there's the harvester class set of drones added by the mod

edgy dagger Aug 8, 2025, 6:33 PM

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crimson tundra Am I missing something with the Rusatom-Antonoff MPP-N1? It says it buffs the mi...

I also thought there might be something wrong with the MPP so I ran a little test, my geologists are pretty shit but I don't think it's entirely on them

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ofc a sample size of 10 can't be treated as definitive proof but 90% of the results point at the mpp not doing what it claims to be doing

oak echo Aug 8, 2025, 6:43 PM

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Ok, wow that's actually pretty in depth, but that does pretty much confirm there's an issue with it. I'll hopefully be able to work on it this weekend, but that does depend on an uncertainty or two for how much time I can spend on it

delicate sonnet Aug 11, 2025, 1:40 AM

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i'm getting this crash when running the mod, happens usually when i idle on the main menu but also happens in game. not sure why

📎 engine_log2025-08-10T19.38.41.txt

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not exactly sure why but i pinpointed it to this mod

oak echo Aug 11, 2025, 2:27 AM

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delicate sonnet i'm getting this crash when running the mod, happens usually when i idle on the ...

Do you mind sending me a zipped up copy of the entire /dV folder after the next crash at all? this log file only has the boot text created when starting the game

delicate sonnet Aug 11, 2025, 3:42 AM

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oak echo Do you mind sending me a zipped up copy of the entire /dV folder after the next ...

i ended up fixing it by reinstalling, i think i might've been using an older version of the mod. apologies for the confusion

oak echo Aug 11, 2025, 5:01 AM

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No worries, at least it's fixed now

edgy dagger Aug 11, 2025, 9:38 PM

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oak echo Ok, wow that's actually pretty in depth, but that does pretty much confirm there...

Imo it doesen't need to be changed, MPP is already overpowered as it is

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It allows you to freely install any MPU without worrying about smelt-rate, whether it gives remass or not and about how annoying it is to make your ore enter the MPU chamber

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MPP will suck all your rocks dry and then they just instasmelt the moment they enter your mpu for a single frame

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Just get it and a fully dialed-down Nakamura and you have a better Mitsudaya that gives you remass and doesen't instantly empty your batteries

oak echo Aug 11, 2025, 10:58 PM

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That's fair. The way I see it is that something like the preprocessors should probably reduce efficiencies rather than improve it just by how quickly they can process ores themselves. I'm not going to do that however, as I'm trying to be as close to the original IoE as is reasonable

icy yew Aug 12, 2025, 8:44 AM

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Hey! Maybe i've missed it but i can't see anywhere if this mod is save compatible or not. I'd like to use it on my current save id i can, will this cause issues?

oak echo Aug 12, 2025, 9:05 AM

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It's pretty comparable, and really it'll only cause issues in places you'd expect to, i.e. if you try to disable the mod while having any ship added by the mod as the active ship (game will crash when trying to load a save), or if you have any equipment added by the mod fitted to a vanilla slot (it'll disappear from the slot and you won't get a refund for it unless you switch back to having the mod and switch to something vanilla)

edgy dagger Aug 12, 2025, 9:13 AM

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oak echo That's fair. The way I see it is that something like the preprocessors should pr...

was it possibe to go above 100% process efficiency before the rewrite?

oak echo Aug 12, 2025, 9:19 AM

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nope, Space was pretty clear about making sure it stuck to the laws of thermodynamics

edgy dagger Aug 12, 2025, 9:31 AM

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Sadge

icy yew Aug 12, 2025, 10:11 AM

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oak echo It's pretty comparable, and really it'll only cause issues in places you'd expec...

Thats great, im fine with removing the mod causing issues as long as adding it wont mess up the save!

icy yew Aug 12, 2025, 5:28 PM

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How does preprocessor remass efficiency interact with remass efficience of the main processor? If the main processor also remasses does it add to the efficiency or is it just one or the other?

oak echo Aug 12, 2025, 6:50 PM

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It's an additive percentage, so the base processing efficiency of the MPU is multiplied by the percentage of the preprocessor's efficiency, and then that number is added to the MPU's base efficiency

icy yew Aug 12, 2025, 7:30 PM

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So you mean that mineral processing efficiency of the MPU is multiplied by the multiplier (120% for example) of the PPU. And the Remass efficiency of the PPU is added to the remass efficiency of the MPU? So an MPU with no remass capability with a PPU with 10% remass efficiency becomes just the 10%, but if your MPU has 40% remass efficiency it would become 50% remass efficiency in total?

oak echo Aug 12, 2025, 7:32 PM

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It only affects mineral efficiency, so it doesn't work like that

icy yew Aug 12, 2025, 7:32 PM

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Oh but some of them have a remass efficiency listed as well

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im just wondering how that works if both the MPU and PPU have remass efficiency

oak echo Aug 12, 2025, 7:33 PM

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I think that's the remass efficiency of the unit itself. I'll give the descriptions a look as it sounds like clarification might be needed

icy yew Aug 12, 2025, 7:33 PM

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uhu, the mineral efficiency multiplier is clear to me, but the remass one is less obvious to me

oak echo Aug 12, 2025, 7:35 PM

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Yeah, I think it's intended as the remass reclamation of the preprocessor instead of the modifier. I'll make changes to them for when I next update IoE

icy yew Aug 12, 2025, 7:35 PM

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Great! Then it would be nice to clarify as well in the text what happens if both the PPU and MPU have remass efficiency

oak echo Aug 12, 2025, 7:36 PM

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Especially considering they're written like an MPU instead of something like self reclamation rate and efficiency modifier, I'm surprised no one else has noted it since I've been working on IoE

icy yew Aug 12, 2025, 7:37 PM

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Haha right?

oak echo Aug 12, 2025, 7:37 PM

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Welp, I'll make the bug report on the github as I am out of the house rn, but I'll hopefully work on it soon enough

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Here it is if you want to follow it: https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/issues/6

GitHub

Clarify preprocessor efficiency stats to specify what unit they aff...

Current preprocessor stats are equivalent to how they're written for MPUs, despite each efficiency affecting a different unit

icy yew Aug 13, 2025, 2:14 PM

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From the way the module is defined i think its supposed to multiply the remass efficiency just like it multiplies the mineral efficiency. This module multiplies mineral efficiency by 140% so i'd assume its intended to multiply remass efficiency by 120%.

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Cant find the code that actually modifies the MPU efficiency to see if thats the current behaviour though

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@oak echo

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Oh nvm i found it for the mineral efficiency now, i dont think it performs the same multiplication for the remass efficiency though but i might be wrong

icy yew Aug 13, 2025, 3:14 PM

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Okay i think i understand it now, the preprocessor only processes ice independently of the MPU (which is actually implied by the description of the modules). So the PPU processes for example 40kg/s of just ice, the efficiency of just the PPU is used for this so for the one i linked that means 80% of the ice is wasted so if you have a more efficient remass MPU working in parralel the resulting total remass efficiency can be a lot lower than just having an MPU alone but more ice will be processed.

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This might make a PPU pretty undesirable if you care a lot about remass efficiency since for example the 140% mineral 20% remass PPU "wastes" 32kg of ice per second

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Wonder if this is intended (and if im reading the code correctly of course). "Preprocessing" implies it should improve efficiency, which seems to be true in the case of minerals but if you run a very remass efficient MPU its very very detrimental to run a PPU since its "stealing" ice from the MPU which it then processes at a very low efficiency if im understanding correctly.

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Might be intended but i think its worth mentioning in the specs or flavour text

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Since the stat is listed as "ice melt rate" i feel like that melted ice should either be processed at whichever efficiency (MPU/PPU) is highest or the PPU should augment the MPU efficiency (additively or multiplicatively) so high remass MPU's still have a reason to run PPU's

oak echo Aug 13, 2025, 4:41 PM

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icy yew Since the stat is listed as "ice melt rate" i feel like that melted ice should e...

I don't believe these were intended with remass as a focus (they were added to the mod months before I came onboard), but doesn't mean that one of them could be changed or a new one added. I'll probably make one that has a high remass rate but makes the MPU have a slight mineral efficiency deficit to compensate.

Plus, I suppose it would also give me an opportunity to see about adding speed tuning to them, like how MPUs got a while back

icy yew Aug 13, 2025, 4:57 PM

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oak echo I don't believe these were intended with remass as a focus (they were added to t...

Yes i understand, that seems good. I feel like maybe just being able to turn off the remass part of the PPU might be fine as well, it enhancing the remass capabilities of the MPU might be too strong i agree

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Or like you said, being able to tune it and maybe instead of remassing getting faster as speed increases like with MPU's it decreases instead so you can let it remass at decent efficiency but very low speed

winged shale Aug 16, 2025, 3:15 PM

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Uh small issue, whenever I start a dive (For reference I'm in the Eagle Prospector), I have a unidentified object in my cargohold, that blocks stuff in there, and I can get rid of out of the front (Its invisible or doesn't exist outside the hold, I can't tell), but it blocks stuff inside the hold

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Which is fairly annoying if I want to use my MPU

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This thing

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nvm its already one of the issues on the github

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📎 dV.zip

oak echo Aug 16, 2025, 3:46 PM

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I'll give it a look. Unfortunately may not be fixed for a moment as I do have a crash report for another mod on the bug report form that I want to prioritize, but I'll hopefully be able to look at it soon

oak echo Aug 19, 2025, 5:49 PM

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winged shale

ok, having given this a look, nothing stands out for the issue at hand, but looks like your release of HevLib is broken as the folder within the zip appears to have been renamed

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also appears that armfocus has been broken and broken for a while, might have a look at what can be done about that later but it's not related rn

oak echo Aug 19, 2025, 5:55 PM

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winged shale

would you mind sending me a zip of your mods as well so i could perhaps confirm this issue as well?

oak echo Aug 19, 2025, 5:58 PM

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oak echo ok, having given this a look, nothing stands out for the issue at hand, but look...

just noticed that it didn't make a config file, which is doubly weird

winged shale Aug 20, 2025, 8:49 AM

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oak echo would you mind sending me a zip of your mods as well so i could perhaps confirm ...

Ill send it later today

winged shale Aug 20, 2025, 1:15 PM

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📎 mods.zip

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 12:03 AM

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so I'm currently trying to port the NTCED parts pack to work with IoE and it works on the trtl but n other ships. I think it's a weapon slot problem but I have NO IDEA how to fix it. how do you handle the modifications to weapon slots in IoE? any guidance on how to patch for compatibility?

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i did a bunch of modifying to get the mpu drone sworking to begin with (and personal modifications) but as a whole I just have no idea how IoE works

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 3:10 AM

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okay so this is partially a note to self but there's no weapon slots on any ships other than the trtl for the drones specifically. i have no idea how to set them up for IoE is all

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 3:13 AM

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I've taken a look, and I believe it's to do with the fact that ships are loaded before NTCED loads it's WeaponSlot nodes to memory. If you instance a new copy of the WeaponSlot node after initialization of mods, all the equipment is there, however the WeaponSlot nodes on ships don't have them. I'd try increasing NTCED's priority to -100 and see if that helps things

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I do have a different approach as a backlog project that's been dormant for a while, but considering I think this might actually be the root source of the issue with WeaponSlot loading, I might start work again on it sooner

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 3:17 AM

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oak echo I've taken a look, and I believe it's to do with the fact that ships are loaded ...

Actually, just tried this with some other mods with the same issues and it didn't work, might be a thing with preloading ships instead?

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 3:23 AM

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you tried setting priority and it didn't work? huh. this is phenomenally odd

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I wish I knew more about Godot

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thanks for looking so late at night btw

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 3:24 AM

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formal bane thanks for looking so late at night btw

it's fine, i'm west coast time so it's like 8:30 here so not really too bad

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 3:25 AM

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formal bane I wish I knew more about Godot

absolutely, it has it's *quirks* (at least it also does give an incentive for me to actually work on a solution now, it has been a known issue to some extent for months)

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 3:54 AM

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winged shale Uh small issue, whenever I start a dive (For reference I'm in the Eagle Prospect...

Ok, finally able to give this a proper look, and i'm only able to replicate it using only the mods you provided. Replacing IoE and HevLib with the proper zip files fixes the issue

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also, i would recommend removing ARMFocus and replacing it with the latest version of VelocityPlus as ARMFocus does not function on modern game versions

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 4:24 AM

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oak echo absolutely, it has it's \*quirks* (at least it also does give an incentive for m...

weapons from other mods not working has been a known issue? well either way good luck with fixing it since i am not quite competent enough to fix it

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 4:25 AM

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mostly just derelict delights companions and containers not working, for most mods it's fine, just might be something special with that and NTCED.

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honestly, i haven't figured out what makes those much different, other equipment mods like booteg work fine, so idk really

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 4:39 AM

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NTCED implements its own special advanced drone plant thing

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which I also modified a whole bunch but what matters is that there's a custom script there

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 4:48 AM

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yeah, i do fear that might be the incompatabilities as IoE does modify drone code as well

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and by the looks of it, both modify the getTunables() function of it, and neither call a super, so that sounds like it's grounds for compatibility problems

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 5:04 AM

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i have literally no idea how to patch this but man i WANT to

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 4:04 PM

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so i'm trying to figure out how to make this work. what could calling a super do here? i've finally got a weekend where i could actually work on this

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 4:27 PM

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It basically calls the function that it's overwriting. It means that, depending on how the function is written, you could theoretically only write the code you want to patch in, while leaving the rest of the function alone

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This modification to the sensorGet function in ship-ctrl.gd from VelocityPlus should be an ok example of it:

        match sensor:
                "diveDepth":
                        var depth = CurrentGame.globalCoords(global_position).x / 10000 - 1.0
                        return depth
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                        return .sensorGet(sensor)

Whenever sensorGet() is called, this function is called. The match statement (equivalent to a switch statement in other languages), checks the value of the sensor variable. If it's equal to diveDepth, then it's own function runs and returns a value, if it's anything else, then it sends it to the vanilla or previous modification of ship-ctrl.gd to run that sensorGet function instead (the super is denoted by putting the period before the function's name) and returns the value from there

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 5:13 PM

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OH i think i set up supers in my personal modified version of the code but man i'm not sure. currently in grad school so VERY busy despite really wanting to fix this

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I feel like there has to be a better way to write mods in general so they extend vanilla behavior as a whole but I really don't know
I'll have to look at IoE's code too

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the weird thing is, though
it works on the starter ship, just no other ships. that's what really concerns/confuses me

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 9:39 PM

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Yup, same thing happened with derelict delights as well, and it happened on any slot referenced from the K37 scene, which meant every K37 variant's slots (excluding the K44's rear two) worked as well.

My best guess is that it's something to do with the K37, maybe that it's referenced elsewhere or something that updates it, but I never could figure it out

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 9:41 PM

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formal bane I feel like there has to be a better way to write mods in general so they extend...

That's sorta why I made some of the things for HevLib. Rewriting this mod to make it more compatible with others made me realize just how tedious it can be to deal with a lot of equipment being added to the upgrades scene (which was further backed with derelict delights having like 8 equipment pieces being added to a majority of hard points), so I built a tool to cut out the middleman and have the game add make the slots for you

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 9:53 PM

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oak echo That's sorta why I made some of the things for HevLib. Rewriting this mod to mak...

maybe these mods just need to be ported to HevLib? if you've already set this stuff up then it seems like it'd just be a port that's necessary

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if I only knew how to actually USE any of this stuff I could do that, but grad school starting = no more time

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not going to ask you to do free work anyway, I'll just have to figure htis out on my end as hte days go by

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 10:09 PM

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formal bane maybe these mods just need to be ported to HevLib? if you've already set this st...

Not really necessary, the library does the heavy lifting, but it's nothing more than that, a library (and why IoE requires it as a dependency, as most of it is common code used by other mods as well). Besides, any fixes for this specific issue haven't even been made yet, as I've not really had much time for it either

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 10:10 PM

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formal bane if I only knew how to actually USE any of this stuff I could do that, but grad s...

There is some documentation on it, but it's not really that good imo and is not up to date. I am willing to do some help for it if you want, as most of the setup for it is pretty easy, but absolutely up to you

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 10:53 PM

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I would absolutely appreciate help with getting this going, yes, thank you very much for offering

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 11:07 PM

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I suppose should at least ask, on the K37 (being the only ship to actually fit the equipment), does it work as intended?

formal bane Aug 23, 2025, 11:26 PM

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Thankfully yes

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Thing is, like
I can equip it on ships apart from the K37

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It just doesn't work there
On my end, at least, using a heavily customized version of NTCED

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But I can't imagine how changing the advanced-drone-plant.gd file would make it fittable on ships other than the K37

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I could pop into general and screenshare it to show what happens

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or just drop the modified zip, either way it's up to you

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 11:54 PM

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formal bane Thankfully yes

Well, at least that narrows it down to needing a fix for just the WeaponSlot side of things, if it's functional outside of what it can be fitted to, then I don't think trying to find a fix on the code for them will help.

oak echo Aug 23, 2025, 11:55 PM

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formal bane I could pop into general and screenshare it to show what happens

I should be fine (I'm also out of the house rn so probably wouldn't work too well), I'm able to replicate the same thing with another mod, but if you're ok sending a zip, I could perhaps work on something when I get back

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 12:15 AM

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well here ya go either way, it's busted but I also reimplemented the MPU function (I don't think it was used prior) so

📎 NTCED_Parts_Pack.zip

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either way enjoy whatever you're out of the house doing!

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 2:40 AM

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Updated to 2.3.10:

Fixed crew handling causing rare crashes. This now also ensures that habitat kits that change crew numbers work properly.
Now uses a script to check for a valid HevLib instance to ensure a proper installation is used,
Preprocessors now do not have the HevLib NodeAccess module preloaded when instancing, which is something they never used and thus got removed for an unnoticably quicker load time
Now uses the dynamic equipment driver system, which actually gives a noticable improvement to loading into saves
- This change also fixes the issue that happened with MPUs, RCS and consumables when added through the legacy equipment drivers
  Main Release: here (HevLib )

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 3:52 AM

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the chad surprise update at 10 PM
does this fix the issue or is this just a patch that was going to happen?

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 3:53 AM

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just a patch that was going to happen, mostly a few quick fixes that came about during testing, but the equipment driver improvement has been a week and a half in the making. now it's out of the way, i'm now able to focus on a fix for the weaponslots

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 3:54 AM

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oh okay, that makes sense

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 3:55 AM

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yeah, most of that was actually spent working on this part of the patches done tonight: #1354537481197850655 message

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 4:08 AM

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super good either way

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 7:13 PM

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Updated to 2.3.11:

Now uses HevLib WeaponSlotDriver tools
Updated HevLib check to now look for v1.6.9 or newer
https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.3.11

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 7:39 PM

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oak echo Updated to 2.3.11: * Now uses HevLib WeaponSlotDriver tools * Updated HevLib che...

inexplicably, these updates broke my copy of Moar RADARs
do I need to edit on my end? I don't think it's been updated in a while, just working on that now

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modding htis game really is tough.
going to try to fix it on my end first though

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 7:41 PM

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probably not, but it's weird that broke considering it's not really doing much that this would break. i'll give it a try with the release copy to see if anything happens on my end as well

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ok i see what you mean

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 7:43 PM

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i have no idea how these things happen

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 7:45 PM

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i don't think the function to set the LIDAR values actually gets triggered, just set a breakpoint at the start and didn't get triggered when i selected one of the new options

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yup, breakpoint on the vanilla function and instantly triggered

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 7:49 PM

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huh. patching nonsense then

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 7:59 PM

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might mean that another node was updated before lidar was, and that specific scene used the lidar script

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:31 PM

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augh, i don't have the energy to debug this now
some ohter day

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:33 PM

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yeah, i agree. i've tried a few things without success as well

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:35 PM

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IoE might be patching LIDAR, I was able to fix this in the past with priority changes but hm
going to give it a look and see what I can do

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:39 PM

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might be, but the only thing that does anything with lidar (at least that i can tell), is the hud/AutopilotOverlay script, which just calls a lidar function. could be that, but idk

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:40 PM

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wtf it works in godot but not in the release game

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:41 PM

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weird, doesn't work when launched through godot on my end

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and not even a priority change fixes it either, hm

winter sandal Aug 24, 2025, 8:41 PM

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formal bane wtf it works in godot but not in the release game

Had this happen before due to mod loader being modified

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:42 PM

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winter sandal Had this happen before due to mod loader being modified

THAT'S DEFINITELY IT

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i was using the variant that can access stuff from folders

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the original modloader just did not work for me, no matter what I did the game wouldn't load mods from ZIPs with godot

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:43 PM

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you can get it to work by making a mods folder next to godot's executable, same works with dlc and the tales folder too

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course, still is problematic by having the folders there even when disabled through the modloader script, still weird it works on your end though

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:45 PM

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see I immediately get errors when trying to load from mod zips

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Loading resource: res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/Settings.gd
Loading resource: res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/Settings.gd
 modules/gdscript/gdscript.cpp:817 - Condition "err" is true. Returned: err
 Cannot load source code from file 'res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/Settings.gd'.
 Failed loading resource: res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/Settings.gd. Make sure resources have been imported by opening the project in the editor at least once.
Loading resource: res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/Settings.gd
 modules/gdscript/gdscript.cpp:817 - Condition "err" is true. Returned: err
 Cannot load source code from file 'res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/Settings.gd'.
 Failed loading resource: res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/Settings.gd. Make sure resources have been imported by opening the project in the editor at least once.

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and from there everything collapses

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:46 PM

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mind if i have a look at the zips you're putting in the folder at all?

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:46 PM

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sure, in addition to hevlib and ioe i've got hte ofllowing:

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📎 DerelictDelights-2.0.12.zip 📎 Moar_RADARs.zip 📎 NTCED_Parts_Pack.zip 📎 PilotZoom.zip 📎 SaveEdit.zip 📎 VelocityPlus.zip 📎 BetterRefining.zip

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modified moar radars for myself as well as ntced but those are just for me

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:48 PM

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hm, only thing i can think of that's causing the issue would be an incorrect file structure in the zip, but i'd assume you're using a release zip

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:48 PM

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correct

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:49 PM

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i'll throw in the one i uploaded this morning and see if it works

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nope, works fine for me. bizarre

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:49 PM

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3.5.3 or 3.6.1?

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:50 PM

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3.6.1, and the IoE zip from earlier

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:51 PM

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trying an Alternative Tactic

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nope STILL HAPPENS

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going to replace hevlib and ioe to make sure

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OH it's REPEATEDLY TRYING TO LOAD THE SETTING SFILE

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Loading resource: res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/Settings.gd
Loading resource: res://IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp/Settings.gd
 modules/gdscript/gdscript.cpp:822 - Condition "err" is true. Returned: err

twice in a row???

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which leads to hte debugger throwing Parser Error: The member "IoEConfig" already exists in a parent class.

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:54 PM

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do you still have IoE enabled in the addedMods array at all?

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:54 PM

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no the addedMods array is gone

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...what the hell it came back

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i feel like a dumbass. fixing that now

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but i DELETED THE FOLDERS

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ok thank god it finally works now

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:55 PM

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it'll still exist in the res:// folder, as the mod loader unzips the mods to it, so it'll still be there. comment it out or delete the line and it should stop happening

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:56 PM

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DIVISION BY ZERO IN THE VIDEO PLAYER

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that's hilarious

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...no wait it doesn't work. i just forgot to enable mods

I should probably go back to focusing on biology

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now it's saying Invalid get index 'is_debugged' (on base: 'Node (ModLoader.gd)'). at line 42 of the mod loader
huh?????

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i think my install is cursed

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 8:59 PM

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yeah the is_debugged is an additional variable i added to the modloader to make it easier to distinguish release behaviour from launching in the editor, means i can check for when not to load folders from mods not loaded

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 8:59 PM

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ohhh

winter sandal Aug 24, 2025, 9:00 PM

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Actually what broke in yours MoarRadars?

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 9:01 PM

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it just completely stopped functioning

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with IoE the new radars default to the stnadard behavior

winter sandal Aug 24, 2025, 9:02 PM

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In tuning and in dive?

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 9:02 PM

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yup

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i got caught in a division by zero loop becuase the video looper is broken

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content.size is 0

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okay i fnially got rid of all the errors. now I can at least debug this on my end

winter sandal Aug 24, 2025, 9:11 PM

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Hmm I used your version with IOE and it seems to work in dive, only tuning is displaying incorrectly. (Tested with Cone radar)

formal bane Aug 24, 2025, 9:13 PM

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okay hold on let me check again

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phenomenally odd. okay it works i ndive now, tuning is just broken

winter sandal Aug 24, 2025, 9:21 PM

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formal bane phenomenally odd. okay it works i ndive now, tuning is just broken

Yeah initilly the issue with that was my typo that added space to if else statement, it fixed problem on vanilla but I too saw that tuning is somehow broken with other mods.

oak echo Aug 24, 2025, 10:35 PM

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i got a fix working, the issue was the script not updating in the upgrades and tuning menu scenes, so i just replaced it with the patched script instead. see if this works

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📎 Moar_RADARs.zip

formal bane Aug 25, 2025, 2:56 PM

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the derelict delights containers being busted is known, right?

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OH i had an old version. nvm

oak echo Aug 29, 2025, 8:53 AM

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Updated to 2.3.12:

Reorganized and rewrote stats for the preprocessors to make the fact that they reclaim water themselves, while modifying the mineral reclaimation of MPUs
Fixed display numbers for the mineral storages for the CK line of ships
- Reduced total processed storages by 25%
- Increased CK65 hull value and mass by 25%
- Increased CK69 hull value and mass by 50%
  https://github.com/rwqfsfasxc100/Industries-Of-Enceladus-Rewrite/releases/tag/2.3.12

tall elm Aug 29, 2025, 9:49 PM

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Does anyone notice a 'wobble' when trying to aim? I dont know if it is Enceladus or HevLibs Fault.

oak echo Aug 29, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Would you mind reporting it to the bug report form at all? It's not one that would directly need logs or anything, however it would let me see whether it's an issue with mods or an imbalanced build

Google Docs

Hev's Bug Report Form

This form is used to keep track of bug reports for any of my mods. Anything that you may see as problematic should be reported here. You may still report bugs to the Github or Nexus pages, however I will always prioritize reports made here beforehand, regardless of how critical for the sake of keeping it organized and in a fashion where everythi...

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I've not noticed any wobbling myself, however I have been mostly testing unbalanced equipment anyway so it wouldn't be something I'd notice out of the ordinary

oak echo Aug 29, 2025, 10:39 PM

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tall elm Does anyone notice a 'wobble' when trying to aim? I dont know if it is Encelad...

Actually, to cut the middleman, mind if I ask what your entire loadout is so I can replicate at all?

tall elm Aug 29, 2025, 11:02 PM

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hi @oak echo , sure. Here is everything you need. I hope it helps. If you need anything more, just tell me.

oak echo Aug 29, 2025, 11:07 PM

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tall elm hi <@895127161650962552> , sure. Here is everything you need. I hope it helps. I...

That looks like vanilla behaviour to me, as the autopilot seems to be compensating for the pulsed thrusters overshooting the rotation. If you want to make it more stable, I'd choose a set of thrusters with the "variable thrust" capability

Also, those mods won't work as they're not in a .zip form

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replace the folders with these files (and leave them compressed), make sure you have the --enable-mods launch parameter enabled and the mods should work

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📎 DerelictDelights.zip 📎 HevLib.zip 📎 IndustriesOfEnceladusRevamp.zip 📎 ModMenu.zip 📎 VelocityPlus.zip 📎 Moar_RADARs.zip

#Industries of Enceladus (Compatability) Rewrite

For reference