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#The Sixth Voice -A Third Party Homebrew LCP
solid basin
I am not sure that if the charge gained this way can stack over the maximum charge?
rocky hawk
it cannot
solid basin
Can this system works on forced movements?
rocky hawk
yes!
solid basin
all of your attacks against them are considered critical hits.
the CP of Koremasa
Is this means PC don't need to roll the attack test and auto-critical or just work on success attacks?
rocky hawk
the later
solid basin
thx
I noticed that Brigid-Class NHP do not have the Unique tag, it is mean to design like that?
solid basin
but the hr core allow to have mutiple nhp
solid basin
the Brigid-Class NHP have 1/scene limit, and base limit is 4, so it charge can't be exhausted before the fifth battle in single mission, wow
i have never meet a mission last more then 4 combat
rocky hawk
ive played in em
solid basin
that's quiet a long campaign
rocky hawk
not common but it happens
rocky hawk
High Range Rifle
solid basin
what about the O.R.S for the M/K2, On-board Reloading System?
solid basin
because i'm translating this into simple chinese, so im considering keep the abbr or translate it into full words,
i don't want to misunderstand the original meaning,
craggy hinge
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craggy hinge
Found another typo. This Maiden's Blush trait should say it loses invis, not looses invis
wary topaz
thinking about trying to kitbash a primrose and i realized just how weird its feet/hooves are
rocky hawk
none of its limbs even connect
wary topaz
its like hooves that have been stretched out into the proportions of human shoes
yeah i just noticed that arm that connects directly to its thigh
god this is going to be a mess to kitbash
definitely not going for the pose in the kitbash
rocky hawk
its sort of got that hydra type of limbs goin gon
wary topaz
ssc just slapped that shit on wherever i guess
rocky hawk
the lore is that its all magnetic
so they dont ever actually connect
which is why its got such long arms
dense cedar
prim <3
misty lance
decided to alt the Lich instead of the Kobold?
rocky hawk
yeah
i had no ideas for the kobold
and yellow got my brain spinning on it
damn rat
minor updates
unkempt iron
Oh yumny
limber maple
I will say, feel like having two 1/round traits that have wildly different proc clauses like that, you're really pigeonholing yourself into having to do a "Stystem Save or become Movement Reduced" every turn (so mostly just specific lich systems) in order to not spend you entire turn proccing all your traits or feel bad you aren't using your frame to its full potential. As well as forcing very specific stuff onto your build to enable those actions in the first place.
My two cents is that it feels like having one or the other would probably be better - I would say the first one, since at minimum you always have access to Fragment Signal, while specifically Systems saves are a lot more limiting (and you're basically just copying an existing invade option, which feels a lot less exciting).
rocky hawk
thats actually a really good point, i was feeling weird about 2 1/rounds and i wasnt quite sure why but i think you sort of put it well
im just not sure the specific area of moment control/support that isnt already covered without getting TOO weird with it
maybe changing uptold secrets so that when you hit with a tech attack or they fail a save you can teleport them and yourself up to 3 spaces?
something like that?
idk, i like the sort of duality of forcing them out of possition while being hyper mobile
i feel like its close but just, doesnt have the MAIN thing that makes it all click
limber maple
So, my gut reaction is that is way too much free movement. I did a (admittedly deterministic) Push 2 when targeting with a tech for one of my mechs, and that proved to be really strong. So even a teleport 3 on one target is a lot, especially since you're already giving a free move to one of your allies every turn.
Let alone it also being on yourself.
rocky hawk
i think its got enough self mobility with the core passive
and im not sure it really even needs movement control when minotuar and goblin exist
limber maple
(Also also, if this is 1/round, you're running into the two 1/round things on a mech heavily dictating its turn by turn gameplan again. My rule of thumb is that a mech should stick with one trait like that. Since it says "this should be part of your gameplan, so look for things that enable it, but do other stuff, too.")
limber maple
and im not sure it really even needs movement control when minotuar and goblin e...
That's always going to be a tricky space, because, yeah, there's a lot of movement granting/forcing stuff in core. Black Witch, Sunzi, Goblin...
rocky hawk
exactly
i think it needs like, a defining trait here and its hard to exactly quantify the specific space im trying to expand
theres no point making homebrew that retreads base game concepts (either better or worse)
and god knows i aint doing better
limber maple
Heck, you've already got Rangertail doing the "grant a movement equal to speed" except it's deterministic via Lock On and up to Range 20.
limber maple
I meant to mention it from the start but then realized I forgot about it. 😅
rocky hawk
its not a memorable mech, too well hidden
mind camo
why ive only ever seen it played once
you think i should change temporal hyjack then? im not sure if the vibe is different enough
also i wasnt sure if you had any thoughts on shackleton or lovers knot,
limber maple
I'll freely admit, that I've more or less reached the end of my Game Design Acumen. 😅
It mostly extends to telling people why their thing probably won't work out quite how they want it too, oops. Ask Iki how many of his NPCs I buzzkilled.
limber maple
also i wasnt sure if you had any thoughts on shackleton or lovers knot,
Truthfully, I haven't looked at them. Tbh, I've not really been in the Game Design Brain much recently. I'm like a cat. Sometimes I'll just see something when I poke my head in a chat that I pounce on and give a comment. I mostly just look in on channels to see vibes.
rocky hawk
honestly, thats so fair
im always more than happy to get any sort of feedback from you
probably like, top 3 homebrew authors
limber maple
My reputation far exceeds my skills, haha.
rocky hawk
real
but dont sell yourself short that was some pretty good analysis
now i have to actually do something with it alas
limber maple
Well, if I can pass on general lessons from the mistakes that I've made, I'm always happy to, haha. The biggest lesson is that homebrew creators almost always tend to overcomplicate mechs. I'm just as guilty. Most core mechs are actually really simple platforms, and a lot of times stuff could probably be spread over two frames.
rocky hawk
thats so real
limber maple
There's a reason when making frames for Stellar Codex, I made a rule of "At most two positive traits, and one negative. No integrateds." (And of course broke both of those at various points. But it was an interesting challenge to try and distill frames a lot further than I would probably want to. Ended up with some of my favorite results.)
limber maple
I mean, I made, uh... five during Iridia? Huh, less than I thought. Though that's after removing some during redesigns, haha.
I just didn't want to end up with 4 or 5 out of 8 frames all having integrateds. 😛
(So in the end, only one frame has an integrated, even with the roster expansion.)
It's mostly that Integrateds are an easy way to make a frame's complexity bloom, haha. Since they always come with their own inherent gameloop you have to play with.
rocky hawk
thats so true
limber maple
Not to say never use them, just always think twice before deciding you really want one. (That's reminding me that I think Ru made a guide on Integrateds at some point in the homebrew pins.)
rocky hawk
Think I'm gonna drop some of the movement control for movement buffing cause less other mechs do that
Maybe temporal hyjack to when a hostile character in sensors boosts, ally moves up to their speed as a reaction
Exchange the swap for uh
Maybe allies that star their turn adjacent get an extra 1 or 2 speed?
limber maple
Stuff that encourages positioning is always a safe bet.
rocky hawk
Anything that benefits smart play and teamwork feels better than solo power
Lich lisense is just , weird
limber maple
Maybe temporal hyjack to when a hostile character in sensors boosts, ally moves ...
I almost wonder if it might work better as something like the Sniper's Moving Target - the target has the choice of either giving up the boost, or letting one of your allies boost.
rocky hawk
Ooh that would be fun actually
More dynamic, that's a really good idea
I might just use that
Gm interactablity!
They count as players too
limber maple
Leans a bit more into the control aspect, instead of feeling like pure support.
In practice it probably isn't going to be that different, but it gives a different texture.
rocky hawk
And gms getting choices and being able to actually DO something about it feels nicer
limber maple
Anyways, just my two cents, haha.
rocky hawk
Good 2 cents
I'll sleep on the other ability
I like the core but it could maybe use a bit more complexity
Maybe
rocky hawk
Bella are there plans for a striker Sunzi
uh, its a possibility
sunzi lisense doesnt quite lend itself towards being a striker
could give it an integrated of course but like
complexity
although
maybe
realspace breach can really help extend a weapons range, and the hyper mobility of the lisense could benefit a cqb/melee style
rocky hawk
hmmm, no i think
finite wyvern
Temporal Hijack is super cool!
So much more so than te original one
Position swap thing
rocky hawk
you can thank @limber maple for helping with that
finite wyvern
Also should inertia placebo be only allied characters or have a short range?
It doesnt really need 6 heatcap anymore tho but like we can keep it
Thats my only comment atm
rocky hawk
its not just allies because i want it to be able to be used with antilinear
so you can take someones conditions, see yourself taking them, give them to yourself again, then give them to an enemy
finite wyvern
Oh sorry i mean
Have a short range for allies
Not only allies it should affect you
Like range 3 for some flexibility
but thats a playtest thing
limber maple
Untold secrets, you'll want to make note of the duration. Is it equal to the original condition duration? Or a set "until end of next turn" or whatever. (I would probably also exclude Stunned, just because it's not particularly fun for either party.)
rocky hawk
we will see how often it ends up being used
rocky hawk
Untold secrets, you'll want to make note of the duration. Is it equal to the ori...
I HATE THE STUN CONDITION RAAAAH
but uh ill check antilinears wording for that
alright yep just gotta add teh until the end of your next turn to both bits
makes it a touch wordy but
finite wyvern
Stupid idea but maybe it just gives you jammed or immob or something for stunned and then inflict jammed or immob or something for stunned if you want to “absorb stunned”
Since Lich has a stun system so
But thats just finnick idk
rocky hawk
im not sure i wanna touch stun with a 10 foot pole
finite wyvern
I mean you arent really
youre just allowing this to work with stunned witohut inflicting stunned
rocky hawk
plus, stay of execution explicity makes a stun thats uninteractable
which is kind of weird
finite wyvern
yeah for stay of execution so it still works
without applying more stunned
thats why
unkempt iron
Yeah for no heat cost and unlimited targets that seems kinda nuts
rocky hawk
think its fine as a full action core power?
rocky hawk
yeah im comparing it to monarch core
misty lance
I think it might still need some cost even as a full action
also something something if I had a nickel for every Sunzi alt named the Tomyris i'd have two nickels something something
rocky hawk
less damage, less range but moves and slows
rocky hawk
I think it might still need some cost even as a full action
also something somet...
is there really another?
dense cedar
feels a little bland imo
rocky hawk
i just dont want a core thats just, your integrated weapon is now better
unkempt iron
Yeah as a burst 10 full action with a bunch of displacement and status feels kinda nuts
misty lance
is there really another?
from hardvac blues, yeah
I don't mean anything by it, I just think it's a funny coincidence
unkempt iron
Maybe only within range 5 so you're guaranteed the accuracy
rocky hawk
i do want a range 50 teleport
rocky hawk
Maybe only within range 5 so you're guaranteed the accuracy
lowkey the first idea i had when you said that
unkempt iron
lowkey the first idea i had when you said that
Helps with the teleport being on crit
Also im envisioning bunching many enemies with it, then beckoner swapping an enkidu or something similarly wacky with a bunch of targets close by
And the impair synergy with saves on the frame is nice
rocky hawk
And the impair synergy with saves on the frame is nice
yesssss
rocky hawk
Also im envisioning bunching many enemies with it, then beckoner swapping an enk...
this was the hope, you can use non sunzi systems
anything with a teleport on it
for you or other people
unkempt iron
Zip type engine, skirmisher2 with the bow for free damage setup
rocky hawk
done
unkempt iron
Oh fuck its just now occurring to me that new frames means new pishly art
Im salivating
rocky hawk
yesssss
unkempt iron
Another cool ass bow mech, weird beefier lich, chunky nelson
rocky hawk
and dont forget
rocky hawk
RAILGUN RAILGUN RAILGUN RAILGUN RAILGUN RAILGUN
unkempt iron
Fractal spider
unkempt iron
Im picturing it having some weird ass arms pulling it through a broken glass looking portal
Like airachnid from transformers
rocky hawk
i think you are thinking of a different mech
unkempt iron
I mean with the redirection
rocky hawk
ah! that would be sick as fuck actually
unkempt iron
Im picturing it using tears or alterations in realspace that look like splintering, fracturing glass
rocky hawk
like, shimmering mirrors and reflections
unkempt iron
Yess exactly
unkempt iron
Im realizing the leggy pulling through the portal look would only work if the reaction was teleportation
unkempt iron
ill pass that along to pishly
Gnashing my teeth
unkempt iron
Im realizing the leggy pulling through the portal look would only work if the re...
At least from a visual to mechanic kinda translation
unkempt iron
Scary
rocky hawk
@forest trail prove you are real (hes at work rn for sure)
but like
you can just summon him like a demon
but with less candles
unkempt iron
People who do art and writing for the game i like are scary monolithic figures in my mind /hj
But yeah if I see weird broken glass visuals on the lovers knot im gonna pop
rocky hawk
it will probalby be a little while till he is actually,like, free
unkempt iron
I figured, I remembered how long i was patiently kicking my feet waiting for the Kore art
rocky hawk
fuck... koremasa is so pretty too
unkempt iron
I KNOW
And the exhaust scarf
I wanted to ask, are the little cylinders on the hips the Mika magnets or the skurikens?
rocky hawk
the shuriken but they arent on, so the plasma blades arent out
unkempt iron
Im assuming the hilt is either the sickle or the blinkblade
rocky hawk
also if you look on the leg, it said ORS
it was meant to be OES for overdriver exploitation sequences
but thats why the Cyrus has ORS infront of it
unkempt iron
Hell yeah
rocky hawk
its a designation for plasma weaponry now
unkempt iron
Fuck and the badges are so peak
unkempt iron
Im so glad one of my players is building it first
She isnt sure whether its gonna be a heatgunner or more generic controller
rocky hawk
love me a massa
unkempt iron
Is that a term for heatgunner?
unkempt iron
Ohh word i have just been abbreviating it to kore
rocky hawk
wild is still normal
rad is fun and ironic
whens the last time you said lowkirkenuenly
unkempt iron
Yesterday
rocky hawk
holy fucking peak
unkempt iron
Unforch
rocky hawk
bridging the gap
unkempt iron
Im a linguistic genius
rocky hawk
a cultural ambassador
unkempt iron
Ill tell you what, im on a mission from God to get my players acclimated enough with lancer that I can unleash them to the depths of Pilot NET and itch.io and let them return to me with the most fucked, hair pulling evil ass builds known to man
unkempt iron
Things that require me as a newish lancer GM to start making the most fucked encounters possible just to keep them in check
My bf is running an empakaii
rocky hawk
im so sorry
limber maple
Ill tell you what, im on a mission from God to get my players acclimated enough ...
"I want all your builds to include at least three homebrew sources."
rocky hawk
i think i saw someone who made a build and it had litterally no base game stuff at ll12
unkempt iron
Jesus christ
Yeah no im "suggesting" people take max of one homebrew source
Most that are are going sixth voice, but my bf might switch to the Kasai from vacation guide to draum
rocky hawk
ive heard draum is pretty good
unkempt iron
He realized its very similar to empakaii but its sustain is absurd and then he gets to be a t-rex
rocky hawk
havent seen it myself
unkempt iron
And hes kinda considered jumping ship from mr big hand
rocky hawk
the less empakaiis the better
unkempt iron
Yeah like cool you can do your whole ruining my life grappler murder mitten bit
Imma get mine tho and in the mean time here's 6 heat
rocky hawk
exposed? for free?
wary topaz
"I want all your builds to include at least three homebrew sources."
[ LICENSES ]
HA Koremasa 3, SCENE RENAISSANCE 1, PTI Magician 1, C&H PESILAT 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Integrated Weapon, Integrated Ammo Feeds
[ TALENTS ]
Gladiator 3, PEN TESTING 3, Ionized 3
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:2 SYS:0 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:17 ARMOR:0
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:10 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:+1 LIMITED:+3
SPD:5 EVA:12 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated Weapon: Fusionbleed shuriken
Flex Mount: Macethorn Plating
Main/Aux Mount: Rendwire Sickle / Fusionbleed shuriken
[ SYSTEMS ]
UF-1300 ‘Bulldozer’ Fuel-Spikers x5, //shadowfist, Project Duplicate, Blinkblade Slice x6```easily the best build i've ever concocted
rocky hawk
YES that was it
omg it was ll6
and the builds also fucking sick
with shadow clones
wary topaz
the only base game stuff it has are the core bonuses
limber maple
Wow, can't believe you'd ping me and not use any of my homebrew. /s
wary topaz
and the builds also fucking sick
i think the worst part is that its a like, genuinely pretty solid build lol
wintry imp
havent seen it myself
Draum has some really fun mechs and really seems to hate the idea of Horus having a good time
Which as someone who loves Horus mechs
Understandable
lusty steppe
"I want all your builds to include at least three homebrew sources."
Yk it takes a different level of dedication and game knowledge to find some insane combos to mash up with various hb sources
haughty dagger
I was talking to somebody who was bragging that all their drones had 30hp due to using five different homebrew things.
And, like... yeah, well done for trawling through that much content to find that. But what purpose does that serve? It's picking out content specifically to make something so game-breaking that the GM will either not allow it or else create homebrew to counter it.
Or, in that specific case, achieve nothing because when the mech has less HP than the drones, you shoot the mech
this is maybe not the place for my rant. My apologies
rocky hawk
Lmao no that is crazy
unkempt iron
Hence why ive laid out the restrictions i did
unkempt iron
Zip type caliban dd288 is haunting my brain. Its totally unnecessary and is just taking 1 damage for pretty much no reason
rocky hawk
Zip type is such a weird little enabler
finite wyvern
```-- HA Koremasa @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA Koremasa 3, SCENE RENAISSANCE 1, PT...
PTI mentioned
Elite ball knowledge
rocky hawk
Actually thinking about zip type, 8 was curious about what you guys would consider the best designed system/weapon/trait in the sixth voice
Not the most fun or balanced but like
Design principles
I'm trying to nail down that sort of ephemeral concept
unkempt iron
Zip type is something i think is very neat but I struggle to find an application for. I think in terms of overall design I like zip type and the shredder cannon
unkempt iron
Mechanically it being a low damaging ap cannon with a really solid enabler effect both for its own aux weapons and also allies feels really nice, kinda like a pseudo lock on with a lot of upside
Also it being a loading weapon makes it feel like a tube of magnetic scrap exploding into the center mass of the chassis and hampering them
And by ap cannon I obviously dont mean it having armor piercing, moreso the shredded condition making the three damage it does deal feel almost incidental
finite wyvern
Actually thinking about zip type, 8 was curious about what you guys would consid...
Wire Slither
It feels like a very nice way to give a 3 speed mobility while encouraging it to play into its hacker/striker gameplan
And the Naga as a whole, for being a frame that actively combines hacking and striking rather than conveniently being good at both
kindred prairie
Actually thinking about zip type, 8 was curious about what you guys would consid...
I don't know if it's the best but I find Morrigan to be really interesting.
- Keys seamlessly into the base game content while not being gamebreaking
- Opens up build options for midliner,
- The power comes not from the system itself but which talent/trait/systems you bring and with its hefty cost of 3 SP, you gotta choose carefully what you'll bring with you
- Worse comes to worse, you can always use it for +2 Diff at a distance without LoS, which is nice in a pinch.
- Cherry on top, it's not limited, so you can spam till your heart's content (you won't want to, but that is one less resource to manage)
rocky hawk
The Morrigan my beloved
kindred prairie
Impeccable vibes and terrific art chef's kiss
gloomy lotus
Wait whats the morrigan again
Sluagh nhp
finite wyvern
mhm!
unkempt iron
And the Naga as a whole, for being a frame that actively combines hacking and st...
One of my players is gonna jump from chomolungma to naga and im excited for him to start really stabbing
finite wyvern
I may be biased because of my name tag
But what you made is surprinsgly rare in homebrew
unkempt iron
The notion of it being a 50/50 ish hybrid of both roles is very rare
Chomolungma is a hacker that can be used as a striker, calendula is a hacker/controller that has a mount thats helpful for poking stuff
Naga is a special little (size two) guy
rocky hawk
its so pretty
dense cedar
One of my players is gonna jump from chomolungma to naga and im excited for him ...
oooooooo
dense cedar
its so pretty
FOR REAL!
PRETTY MECH!
for me perhaps the prettiest
rocky hawk
yessssss
finite wyvern
now just buff ghoul nexus
/lh
ghast neuxs I mean(?)
Yeah it is so pretty it’s butterflies and rainbows and I love it
I love pretty lancer mechs
rocky hawk
Maybe playtest tomorrow
rocky hawk
the NEXT
wintry imp
had a player confused, just wanted to be sure
rocky hawk
np
unkempt iron
Looking forward to testers getting their hands on the new four frames so I can dangle them in front of my players that are restless and still unsatisfied with their ll3 builds/frames
rocky hawk
You are free to use em for testing
I think the most recent version hasn't been posted yet but I'll do it when I get home from work tomorrow
But if you wanna use a slightly older one you can probably find it if you search all files I've sent
Probably in horus hangout chat
unkempt iron
Ok cool
The version in there has shackleton and lovers knot but not the alt lich or sunzi
rocky hawk
The version in there has shackleton and lovers knot but not the alt lich or sunz...
Ah fuck
I'll send it over when I get home
wintry imp
You know what I’m really surprised by? There’s no real vampire frames rn that I know of
With the overshield love this homebrew has I thought it’d make sense
Honestly I think it could actually be a naga alt frame in theory
rocky hawk
You know what I’m really surprised by? There’s no real vampire frames rn that I ...
I do have a friend whos made a couple but I don't think he's on pilot net
wintry imp
Oh?
rocky hawk
With the overshield love this homebrew has I thought it’d make sense
Black mountain technically has a little
I don't think it's been updated in a bit and I have literally no idea how balanced it is
But there's a vampire
rocky hawk
Honestly I think it could actually be a naga alt frame in theory
I could see it actually, like a spend HP to lock on for free or maybe you steal hp on consuming lock on
wintry imp
Also even the flavor works with current systems which is a nice touch
unkempt iron
Could be a funny alt frame for a vlad, some kind of life drain mechanic as a quick action when theyre immobilized or grappled
rocky hawk
Oh I could see that
Not sure if any more alt frames are in the cards but chances are there will be a new liscence eventually
craggy hinge
Are there still plans for a playtest today?
rocky hawk
That was yesterday and I couldn't cause I had to go vote
This Friday is a solid maybe
rocky hawk
Well I do have all of next week off so we will see
gray musk
Is this v3 compatible?
rocky hawk
Some of the compcon active mod stuff isn't but the lcp itself is
gray musk
Sweet!
unkempt iron
Yippeeeeee
rocky hawk
you enjoying your lich alt aster?
gloomy lotus
you enjoying your lich alt aster?
Gimme a sec I just got home
Shackleton can do knockback down?
TWO TOMYRIS FRAMES
ONE FROM HARDVAC BLUES
ONE FROM SIXTH VOICE
That’s fucking genius
Sphinx. Goooood name choice
What are those stats???
Why is it egg shaped
rocky hawk
which one?
rocky hawk
whats up with the stats?
gloomy lotus
🥚
The diagram looks like an egg
6 heatcap???
I feel like I walked into an esher painting
Shouldn’t recollection of bluer skies and brighter days also affect the Sphinx
rocky hawk
its already pretty powerful so im gonna test to see how it feels
gloomy lotus
its already pretty powerful so im gonna test to see how it feels
You’ll put it in a test. I’m the tester
finite wyvern
6 heatcap???
god forbid horus make a working reactor
the stats are pretty hogh, but please nerf anything but the heatcap i beg of you
but they really arent egregious
theres few weak points but the only high stuff it has is systems
and it has a pretty basic hacker profile there
gloomy lotus
god forbid horus make a working reactor
Sometimes it’s funny
bright flint
so like i have another LCP, Hardvac Blues, that also adds a sunzi frame
i did not expect it to be the same name. i am giggling.
rocky hawk
what does the other one do?
bright flint
what does the other one do?
misty lance
Sizw 2 controller/defender
literally all they have in common is that they're sunzi alts and the name I think
bright flint
yeah it's just funny to open a mech and 2 the same alt frame name twice
rocky hawk
i have been kind of tempted to change it
bright flint
the name could be changed, but the actual contents of your tomyris are really cool
sunzi with a bow
sunzi with a bow
rocky hawk
i was jsut gonna do another prominant archer
bright flint
it's like if emperor stopped buffing allies and decided it wanted to turn into a controller /pos /j
(in all seriousness it feels more like a ranged controller mourning cloak, which is sick as fuck)
rocky hawk
i love bows so much
bright flint
bows are so coolllll
bows being hype as shit is the entire reason i got into archery
rocky hawk
Alternate names i have are Amage, Six Sky, Nzinga
they are all rulers as well as generals/warrior cause i felt the vibes were cooler
gloomy lotus
so like i have another LCP, Hardvac Blues, that also adds a sunzi frame
i did no...
I said that too
bright flint
Alternate names i have are Amage, Six Sky, Nzinga
amage and six sky feel sick as fuck
unkempt iron
This confuses me, it punishes enemies for walking away from you?
rocky hawk
Amage is a greek queen who led a 1 day suprise attack and Lady Six Sky was a Mayan Warlord Queen
unkempt iron
Amage is a greek queen who led a 1 day suprise attack and Lady Six Sky was a May...
Six sky sounds dope as fuck and mesoamerican cultures are super underrepresented in pop culture compared to greek/roman stuff
rocky hawk
i know lancer likes using the names in the original language
but apparently theres some uncertainty around her name?
also it may be too long
dense cedar
oo interesting
misty lance
I decided to go look into Lady Six Sky and maybe calling the frame by the Mayan translation for Six Sky ("Wak Chan") might work?
tender tide
real you could shorten it to just "ajaw" for her title too
but six sky sounds so metal
misty lance
Six Sky is super evocative tho, youre right
rocky hawk
yeah... im leaning towards that
need a new name for the bow then
anyone got any ideas?
hold on, it could still be a bow but what about an Atlatl
misty lance
Based on that PDF I got, the six in her name is either from Ixuuw, Mayan goddess of the moon, or derived from what the document only describes as a "celestial centipede," the wak
tender tide
she seems to have been really fond of studying the phases of the moon and other things of cyclic nature so i wondered if something like a cycler bow would be a fun design and name
rocky hawk
she seems to have been really fond of studying the phases of the moon and other ...
ooh that kicks ass
rocky hawk
i might be able to tie some of this stuff in to the overall frame flavor
tender tide
oh my god the concept of a bow with an ammo feeder belt i just giggled
harrison armory Would make that
misty lance
also, I just realized this: "six sky" and "sixth voice" go really well together
novel rock
What is Greenwash?
Myconid implies it is a rot, but it seems more supportive than anything
I was expecting something that debuffs, burns, and mutates things it touches
rocky hawk
Greenwash is almost entirely benign to hostile forces, the naga primarily uses it to apply lock on and thats about as far as its direct violence goes
both Naga and Myconid rely on greywash in combo to actually hurt things
novel rock
I haven't looked at Naga yet
just Myconid, Fitzgerald, and Hazard
rocky hawk
Myconids fold pike just, applies greenwash where it forms into armor, it passively emits it also but its less effective that way
read naga description for more greenwash lore cause thats the main mech that uses it
but they both use Duelwash
novel rock
maybe I'm just not a fan of passive styles and that's why Myconid doesn't look that exciting to me
which is a shame, I love the flavor and art for it
rocky hawk
you can play up its ability to double stack voral gun attacks
so you can get extra benefit from auto stab and mods
novel rock
yeah, being able to save a slot on not taking 2 vorpals is pretty nice
I'll give it a chance
I'll be doing some test fights with my group to try and convince them that 3pp is fine to use
maybe it just looks like it punishes enemies less on paper
dense cedar
I LOVE GREENWASH! I LOVE NAGA AND MYCONIDA
novel rock
I did a run with the Fitzgerald earlier today and it was hilariously fun
gave mine dual shock knives, and it came up a lot more than I expected
dense cedar
yeah, being able to save a slot on not taking 2 vorpals is pretty nice
also yes this is a great point that can be compounded:
- Stabilizer mod from Monarch 2 can now be used for TWO Vorpal Gun attacks at the cost of ONE in SP
- Autostabilizing Hardpoints can be used to give an accuracy to TWO Vorpal Gun attacks every round
novel rock
I did overlook that yesterday when I was talking about it
maybe it could do a better job as a Centimane Scylla spam build than the Gorgon can
finite wyvern
blob-ass stats
novel rock
Nexus also fits the Nanite cloud asethetic too
finite wyvern
OHOHO THIS?
NOW WE'RE COOKING
this is the striker/controller I wnated
for years
misty lance
just realized this, but Shackleton doesn't show up as an altframe for the Nelson in comp/con v3
rocky hawk
?
misty lance
it might be an issue on my part, then
wary topaz
raleigh alt-maxxing
rocky hawk
now check the nelson alts
wary topaz
my brain is a single polygon
single point, perhaps
bright flint
it might be an issue on my part, then
what is leviathan that sounds sick as hell
misty lance
what is *leviathan* that sounds sick as hell
lusty steppe
it might be an issue on my part, then
why did Nelson became a cowboy 💔
rocky hawk
Aster is campaigning for size 2 sphinx , so stats are probably gonna get shifted if that happens
gloomy lotus
:]
unkempt iron
That would be neat, its already beefier than lich (because like duh) also quadruped size 2 puppy mech would be fun
Minotaur but more ouppy
rocky hawk
Wuppy wog
I could cut the sphinx name to make it some sort of dog
I'm probably gonna change shackleton
Damn, none of these mechs are gonna have their original names
Could be Blink as in blink dog
tender tide
if you're going the dog angle you could make it the barghest
rocky hawk
Or Phase as in phase beast or panther whatever that thing is
tender tide
one of those fairy dogs in legend like meeting them is an omen of death type thing
rocky hawk
I think I've heard of barghest frames before
tender tide
oh peak
im looking through the fairy dogs on wikipedia there's straight up one called Gurt
misty lance
hellhound?
rocky hawk
GURT????
tender tide
: yo
rocky hawk
hellhound?
It's not really a hell hound type of mech
gloomy lotus
one of those fairy dogs in legend like meeting them is an omen of death type thi...
Corgi
rocky hawk
Not a dnd creature sorry aster
tender tide
Corgi
true when i meet a corgi i Too fear im going to die soon
theyre so funny
js some bullshit with legs
gloomy lotus
Not a dnd creature sorry aster
Dog
rocky hawk
Worg? Gnoll?
Idk, I don't think there's much in the way of dogs
We can just say one of the others is dog coded or whatecer
Just not lovers knot
gloomy lotus
Sphinx should stay as a name
rocky hawk
You have ideas?
bright flint
oh by the way, i'm making a grutte pier build! it's very fun looking
here's the part where i make a mockery of myself though. it's for a oneshot based off of monty python and the holy grail.
hes very self conscious about his LHAC being 1 inch shorter than normal
finite wyvern
You have ideas?
honestly not really besides “teleport spam + maddive heatcap”
unkempt iron
Nuccav and walking armory feels like a good shout with the bow
At least if you wanna push good single target damage
And then the impair helps prevent burn being cleared
finite wyvern
yeah the integrated is a pretty powerful integrated that obviously cant be modded
so we need ways to increase the damage
dense cedar
And then the impair helps prevent burn being cleared
oo that's a good point, hadnt thought of that
unkempt iron
If youre trying to bully a single target, doing nuccav, walking armory and hunter lock gets you to a cool 1d6+3 energy plus 2d6+3 burn, with overkill rerolling all the low numbers
Unsure what you would want for increased accuracy aside from the innate "within range 5"
rocky hawk
trajectory arc lets you get accuracy at 10
unkempt iron
Skirmisher zip drive can help you get range 10 lined up
Six sky 2, pegi 1, leoleth 2, purple thorn 1
finite wyvern
Six sky 2, pegi 1, leoleth 2, purple thorn 1
what do the leoleth and purple thorn mods fo famage wise
unkempt iron
Leo is less for damage and more to clear slowed and let you teleport when you trigger skirmisher, and purple thorn gives accuracy at range 10
Alternatively, drop purple thorn one for sunzi 3 for final secret so you can trigger it on your own zip drive damage
rocky hawk
1 damage was just, not a downside
unkempt iron
Oh fuck that doesnt work then
Shoutout to me for not reading i gotta change the whole shit
rocky hawk
free 6 movement skirmisher was a bit much
unkempt iron
Best move here is preplacing accelerate in the direction of a particularly enticing target the turn prior. On the go turn, wing to clear away slowed as needed and activate blinkspace tunneler, then move and boost through the accellerate, place the realspace breach, and overcharge to fire the bow through it at a target up to 20 spaces away
-- HA Tomyris @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
HA Sunzi 3, HA Leoleth 2, HORUS Pegasus 1
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Heatfall Coolant System, Universal Compatibility
[ TALENTS ]
Stormbringer 2, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Walking Armory 2, Skirmisher 2, Centimane 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:0 AGI:0 SYS:6 ENGI:2
STRUCTURE:4 HP:11 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:9 REPAIR:4
TECH ATK:+6 LIMITED:+1
SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:14 SENSE:15 SAVE:14
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: CYRUS PLASMA BOW
Main/Aux Mount: Warp Rifle / Nexus (Light)
[ SYSTEMS ]
W.I.N.G x3, Hunter Lock, ZIP TYPE ENGINE, Accelerate, Blinkspace Tunneler, Realspace Breach
Particularly funny is teaming with an AmPhan who pops core to have you go first and tunnel them through at a target that you've also teleported closer
You can drop sunzi 3 and realspace breach for purple thorn 1 and the arc mapper
unkempt iron
I am once again chewing on the idea of a maidens blush Virgil DMC cosplay build but trying to figure out how to go about it is making my head hurt
timid frigate
Well, Singularity Motivator and Fold Knives is already a solid way to achieve that, depending on how you feel about Atlas you can pick up Terashima and either of the Jager Kunsts
Perhaps some Sunzi stuff too if you need more ways to Teleport.
wary topaz
needs to be longer
rocky hawk
Yes ma'am
wary topaz
jokes aside, phenomenal design
rocky hawk
The little mirror fractures, the harness (a lovers knot one could even say), the big ass gun, the backpack battery it's so fucking peak
unkempt iron
Risk of rain railgunner vibes
unkempt iron
Fuck, Bela yet again being a real one
rocky hawk
Railgunner mastery skin was a design inspiration
rocky hawk
Playtest soon maybe?
unkempt iron
Fuck yes, my laptop is a potato but I would like to
Tachyon lance asura lovers knot
Skitter between burnable squishies close by and a choice target far away in the opposite direction, and a few of their friends
Cone of death to melt grunts, half a tachyon lance is still 2d6 halved energy and 4 burn
unkempt iron
Lovers knot wips
The stub barrel is pretty fire im gonna be real
craggy hinge
Lovers knot wips
bright flint
Playtest soon maybe?
im staring
limber maple
Indeed! (I got my own pride flag mech just today, haha, so I'm admittedly probably biased.)
rocky hawk
Show?
limber maple
limber maple
Yeah, haha. When I scribbled a suggested tally on, it was only, like, seven.
rocky hawk
Give or take 22
limber maple
If the artist decrees it, though, who am I to argue? 😛
rocky hawk
I love the gun
limber maple
Yeah, it's pretty cool. Higher-tech take on a Deck-Sweeper.
Anyways, I'll stop taking attention away from your stuff, haha.
rocky hawk
Lmao not even
dense cedar
have lcp or images etc on hand?
ive not paid attention lately
dense cedar
What other manufacturer uses shibari
LOL
dense cedar
YIPPEE
rocky hawk
dense cedar
peak
unkempt iron
Its so fucking dope
rocky hawk
Full splash one
unkempt iron
Yumyumyummy
God my party has too many striker/hackers, between this and the six sky im about to have too many artillery/controllers
kindred prairie
Holy fuck that design is so sick...
Love the details of the lower part of the torso...
gloomy lotus
Yellow cook again???
solid garden
Full splash one
Trans flag hell yeah
Out of curiousity, how has jörmungandr fared in playtests?
Wait why is m/k2 tankier than everest? (Repcap)
(I'm looking through everything for the tierlist)
gloomy lotus
Out of curiousity, how has jörmungandr fared in playtests?
ò-ó
solid garden
Wait why is m/k2 tankier than everest? (Repcap)
4SP💔
unreal crypt
Full splash one
Dang Pishly moved quickly on this one
gloomy lotus
Dang Pishly moved quickly on this one
Yeah he played it
rocky hawk
Typically he does the whole thing in like 3 hours?
rocky hawk
how do we feel about this compendium
gloomy lotus
how do we feel about this compendium
Would a corpo that’s shilling this as high end luxury (hunting) gear mention the word “war”?
rocky hawk
they arent shilling it as hunting gear
deaths head mentions how its a combat chassis
same with black witch
gloomy lotus
deaths head mentions how its a combat chassis
Combat - not war
Specifically the word war, would they use it? Is it not too vile and down to earth for ssc?
rocky hawk
metalmark is expicitly milspec
gloomy lotus
metalmark is expicitly milspec
But does milspec have the connotations of the word “war”?
rocky hawk
does warrior count?
gloomy lotus
does warrior count?
You can do that. Or “combat resolution”
rocky hawk
combat resolution is funny
gloomy lotus
Way more removed from war as a concept
rocky hawk
also i seperately ended up tweaking mk2
got an sp, got a heat cap, lost 2 hp, and got an armor
Hybridized lost AP
rocky hawk
i got distracted
it was irking me
the thing im meant to be doing
changed to conflict resolution
gloomy lotus
Very good
dense cedar
statblock? 🥺
unkempt iron
Im like obsessed with looping a tachyon lance with this thing
I have no sense
"What if Railgunner could only use her special with every shot"
solid garden
got an sp, got a heat cap, lost 2 hp, and got an armor
Goated sp
kindred prairie
I feel that using the past tense to describe DH's technical/operational role feels like the frame is outdated. and I can't imagine SSC keeping an outdated design on its catalogue especially when there's (in fiction) better one available in the shape of the lover's knot
Secondly, the use of "window and higliht point" might be a little too common of an expression as the first image that popped in my mind was regular household windows. Now I don't put it past SSC's bigwigs to own property outfitted with unbreakble glass, but it won't help me visualize how that glass is used by the lover's knot. Choosing more technical or specific terms should help. Moreover, I don't get how the frame gets to deploy and use the glass ; sure brainwaves are used to fine tune re ricochet but I assume the frame need to deploy the unbreakable glass first to bounce the shots off from.
Finally, don't want to seem pedantic but the actual name of the moth is (true) lover's knot with an apostrophe.
rocky hawk
what does it do again
rocky hawk
I feel that using the past tense to describe DH's technical/operational role fee...
for the last point it is true lovers knot but for many of the ssc frames half the name is removed
like its "deaths head hawkmoth"
kindred prairie
gotcha
rocky hawk
updated compendium
made it more clear that the drone is used to ricochet
and changed deaths head tense
craggy hinge
The LK uses drones to ricochet now?
rocky hawk
the drones are a method for the glass
craggy hinge
Close enough, welcome back Cochise
rocky hawk
i wanted to include a part about how they also can coat the shots with it but it was too wordy
but it is cannon
solid garden
updated compendium
- "Almost no significant loss of kinetic force"
- Damage is halved when ricocheting
Hmmmm
craggy hinge
Its called marketing look it up
rocky hawk
- "Almost no significant loss of kinetic force"
- Damage is halved when ricochet...
significant loss of kinetic force is in reference to how ricochets typically deal NO damage
overall combined force is equal to 1
so no loss
solid garden
overall combined force is equal to 1
ohh that makes sense
solid garden
Its called marketing look it up
this is a funnier interpretation tho
overall kinda struggle to see the value with the ricochet and anything in the license. Active antisynergy with core siphon. Getting multiple half damage weapon attacks is usually best with weapons that focus on their secondary effect, which death's head doesn't do
like being able to hit two targets with one shot of kraul rifle is cool but not exactly what you're going for I'm guessing
rocky hawk
nah its ONE attack so core siphon treats it all as the first attack
solid garden
but you make separate attack rolls no?
rocky hawk
nope
solid garden
oh nvm
craggy hinge
Core siphon says first attack roll...
rocky hawk
it also makes nuke cav/ op cal/ mods that only trigger on the first attack double (or more) dip on bonus damage
with line weapons you can lay the lines so that you can hit more than just 2 people
3 gives you 1.5x effective damage
4 is 2x
but its spread out in an aoe
rocky hawk
and it lets you sort of work around ordnance
gloomy lotus
Then again =≈≈
gloomy lotus
exactly 2x if you have even damage
If
rocky hawk
50/50
craggy hinge
Bel. Ghoul's right, core siphon doesnt work
rocky hawk
read the last sentance of gemini charge
craggy hinge
...Where is it
rocky hawk
here
solid garden
we all can't read💔
craggy hinge
I see
That begs the question though - how would that work with accuracy/difficulty when its relegated to one character?
rocky hawk
it applies to the attack roll
so if you have a lock on, then you add that dice when seeing if it hits that specific character
craggy hinge
So if the second guy in a line is prone you get accuracy on the first guy?
rocky hawk
no, youd roll (lets say a 10)
then first guy has 1 accuracy
roll 1 d 6 for that accuracy
next guy has 2 accuracy, so you roll a second one and then just
do like normal
solid garden
oh so one roll but individual calculations with that roll
should probbly be clarified
rocky hawk
yep
craggy hinge
So the d20 is more or less the only part of the "roll" that applies to all characters
Weird
rocky hawk
So the d20 is more or less the only part of the "roll" that applies to all chara...
yeah
solid garden
wait how does this work with fuel rod gun...
it is just an on hit effect, pretty sure the limited is the shooting itself since otherwise isn't specified, so it should clear 8 heat for one charge which is pretty funny
solid garden
ah ok
ig my players just haven't missed with it so I never had to think abt that really
craggy hinge
I wanna see a Lover's Knot with siege stabilizers, stabilizer mod, and neurolink targeting with concussion missiles. "Fuck you, whole map's impaired now"
rocky hawk
form of the myraid can basically ensure you hit everyone on the map
solid garden
Kraul rifle...
craggy hinge
Yeah there's a few on-hit effects I think the LK might break completely. See the warp rifle
craggy hinge
form of the myraid can basically ensure you hit everyone on the map
IF the weapon has enough range. Fortunately first party content has enough range increases to make almost any ranged weapon have that reach
lusty steppe
Kraul rifle...
yamato deadlock flying across entire map
solid garden
yamato deadlock flying across entire map
yup. nelson in shambles as its one thing is stolen
craggy hinge
Rapier class carronade on an LK could clear swathes of a map's cover at a time lol
rocky hawk
warp rifle would massivly struggle with teleporting cause it would do so little damage
craggy hinge
Putting potentially the entire sitrep out of position is a worthy trade off for small damage imo
rocky hawk
Rapier class carronade on an LK could clear swathes of a map's cover at a time l...
that would be really funny, unfortunatly you still need los
put arcing on it
forest trail
Let them know about the Sharanga Missiles
rocky hawk
hope they stand 8 spaces togther
craggy hinge
that would be really funny, unfortunatly you still need los
There's workarounds, just eats LLs
rocky hawk
sharanga is funny
lusty steppe
Rapier class carronade on an LK could clear swathes of a map's cover at a time l...
"we aint bulding here pal"
rocky hawk
you never told me what this symbol was from
rocky hawk
i KNOW ive seen it
solid garden
oh right. Welp, nuccav opcal crack shot crit should do a decent chunk
craggy hinge
you never told me what this symbol was from
Crack shot?
forest trail
you never told me what this symbol was from
Crackshot
wary topaz
you never told me what this symbol was from
Isnt that crackshot?
wary topaz
I know everything
craggy hinge
damn you guys are good
And/or massive dorks
rocky hawk
pegasus motherfucker
wary topaz
And/or massive dorks
Yeah ok that too
rocky hawk
@forest trail you gonna end up playing any of the other new frames?
i think youd like the six sky
forest trail
I fucking love all of them and want to play all of them
wary topaz
Six sky?
lusty steppe
i've got a funny idea for lovers knot, nightfare
lusty steppe
i've got a funny idea for lovers knot, nightfare
its either ultimate troll potential for giving soft to two enemies or you suddenly can pretty reliably give your ally soft cover in exchange for 2 damage?
wary topaz
Interesting, id want to see that first trait tested with that one leoleth teleportation system
It seems somewhat free to me in the right circumstances
rocky hawk
zip type is different now, gives 1 heat not 1 damage
so its less spammable
(specifically to hurt maidens blush)
solid garden
oh right. Welp, nuccav opcal crack shot crit should do a decent chunk
2.5+1 (warp rifle crit) + 4.5x3 (modifier crit) = 17 average damage, well over maximum threshold
wary topaz
It might be fine, im at work so im not very capable of thinking right now
rocky hawk
lmao fair
(plus it also doesnt trigger final secret)
but yes, you can use skirmisher 2 to gain 1 heat to teleport and attack for the 1d6
bow has overkill and 1 heat so you can do some funny things with that
wary topaz
Yeah something like that is what i worry about
But the whims of playtesting shall reveal all
unkempt iron
(plus it also doesnt trigger final secret)
This was heartbreaking for me
rocky hawk
i would still say its overall worse than amber phantom
unkempt iron
Amphan is nutty and if one of my players goes to pick one up im screaming
I really hope I can either partake in or lurk for the next playtest because ooooooh
solid garden
I'm currently screaming a little at white witch specifically because of house guard 2 + fluid burst, did not anticipate that
unkempt iron
The new frames make we wanna yell
wary topaz
Amphan is nutty and if one of my players goes to pick one up im screaming
Im in a group with one and yeah its damage trait is pretty free lol
unkempt iron
I'm currently screaming a little at white witch specifically because of house gu...
HoG 3 seems wild with camus razor or Noah on a white witch
unkempt iron
Im in a group with one and yeah its damage trait is pretty free lol
Praying this never finds me
solid garden
wait I meant HG3 yeah
solid garden
HoG 3 seems wild with camus razor or Noah on a white witch
girl fluid burst is literally free
not even free action so it isn't even stopped by stunned it just happens😭
solid garden
erm?
rocky hawk
emergency repair module
craggy hinge
HoG 3 seems wild with camus razor or Noah on a white witch
HoG 3 on virtually any mech w/ stuff from the Drake or Saladin licenses is pretty damn good
solid garden
HoG 3 on virtually any mech w/ stuff from the Drake or Saladin licenses is prett...
yeah good but still requires a quick action. or is there something free other than fluid burst that counts for HG3 that I've missed?
craggy hinge
Free? I'm not sure
Swallowtail core sorta comes- no not really actually
Black Witch's mag parry comes a little close but is still a reaction, not totally free
solid garden
nah I'd say reaction is free enough
unkempt iron
Im a huge fan of the shackleton btw. Much love to the other alts but something about a big fuck you bruiser that just indiscriminately mollywhops everything around it scratches a very nice itch in my brain
rocky hawk
i love being a big heavy bastard and just beating the shit of you
tender tide
type shit
finite wyvern
I fucking love all of them and want to play all of them
btw pishly do you have more free art
i like
ur art a lot
but ym frames have weird specific requirements/niches
(this is not me asking for a comission dont worry)
forest trail
what's up?
finite wyvern
do you have more free art not on itch?
I like your art a lot :)
Your emperor is very whimsical
forest trail
Oh if you mean like a general gallery for tokens I do not unfortunately
finite wyvern
mhm gotcha
bright flint
im a massive fan of lovers knot its so fuckin absurd
for my next trick fuck the whole map
lusty steppe
For my next trick, i shall make the civilians of Robloxia VANISH!
gloomy lotus
do you have more free art not on itch?
NPCs
devout turtle
does the Lovers Knot have an lcp?
ignore me five seconds of research told me it might be out today go figure
rocky hawk
does the Lovers Knot have an lcp?
its in here
the shackleton/six sky/sphinx do not have art/compendiums yet
lovers knot has been tested 3 times so far
rocky hawk
if you do lemme know how it plays
devout turtle
aye capitain
frigid flare
I do have a question Bela, is there a endgoal of how many new frames you're going to add?
solid garden
crazy
dense cedar
above and beyond
wary topaz
8 licenses 12 alts 1 gms and then 2 secret evil frames that subtract from the total to bring it down to 19
rocky hawk
the mechs that kill you
wary topaz
pretty sure most of them can do that
rocky hawk
wary topaz
bela you should make a dusk wing alt
wary topaz
i should change my name to theirs as well
dense cedar
no thanks
vivid idol
Full splash one
jokes aside this is peak design
rocky hawk
bela you should make a dusk wing alt
Then id have to make an alt for each other manufacturer again
And then I have to deal with kobold lisense
And probably kidd
And almost certainly Gilgamesh
bright flint
I FINALLY REALIZED WHY I LIKE THE LOVERS KNOT SO MUCH
ITS ARC PROJECTOR TOKUGAWA BUT REAL
craggy hinge
Full splash one
Looks incredible!! Reminds me a lil of the Oleander Snarferman drew
craggy hinge
Is that the art for it in the compendium?
Unless he also did the compendium one and I dont know about it, no. Im talking about this one
unkempt iron
And then I have to deal with kobold lisense
Yesyesyesyes rubbing my hands together greedily
rocky hawk
NO
It's NOT HAPPENING
I'm more likely to make non sixth voice stuff that that point
It's a really big project as is so
craggy hinge
Yeah... I dont wanna come into your house and tell you how to live your life, but I would agree sixth voice is starting get a lil big
craggy hinge
Back when it was an alt frame and a license for each manufacturer it already felt huge. It's double that now 
rocky hawk
Yeah I'm not adding any more mechs
I have ideas
But I'm gonna save those
NPCs are the most likely
jolly gorge
why does the mech have bondage ropes
craggy hinge
Did you read its name
craggy hinge
Everything pishly touches is peak
rocky hawk
Huge railgun and shibari is what the lancers crave
jolly gorge
Shibari is ssc anyhow
jolly gorge
NPCs are the most likely
NPC's are hard and weird
I'd be inetersted to see what you make
rocky hawk
My only idea that I have so far is a cqb hacker
jolly gorge
could be neat
rocky hawk
So it has a couple of invade options, shoots you (gun would have a little heat on it)
Weak to long range and burst damage
rocky hawk
Itd be sixth voice branded and on the same itch but probably a seperate file
In case people don't want em
jolly gorge
good choice
I always wished that liminal space had a seperate NPC and mech lcp
since 3 manufacturers is excessive
but the npc's are good and I use em
craggy hinge
why does the mech have bondage ropes
I thought of this late but the moment hasn't completely passed
jolly gorge
I am confused
rocky hawk
Transgender
jolly gorge
what does the flag have to do with shibari
rocky hawk
Members of the lgbtq community are often more openly kinky because they are less tied to the shame of sexuality
limber maple
Yeah I'm not adding any more mechs
Words said moments before getting another mech idea.
(Not that I would speak from experience or anything. 😛 )
jolly gorge
I was not aware trans people and daisuke ishiwatari had so much in common
rocky hawk
I have more ideas... I just have more self control right now
rocky hawk
I was not aware trans people and daisuke ishiwatari had so much in common
What the hell is that other thing you said
wary topaz
self control is lame
jolly gorge
What the hell is that other thing you said
creator of guilty gear
rocky hawk
I CANT ADD MORE
limber maple
I have more ideas... I just have more self control right now
Understandable! You're saving things for your next book.
wary topaz
i simply allow my project to be scope creeped to oblivion
jolly gorge
99% of the character designs have like 12 belts
rocky hawk
99% of the character designs have like 12 belts
I did get a belt today...
craggy hinge
~~Words said moments before getting another mech idea.~~
Yeah after making the 4 in my homebrew I told myself I wouldn't put myself through the torture of doing more. And here I am with ideas, afraid to execute them
rocky hawk
i simply allow my project to be scope creeped to oblivion
I already have alas
limber maple
Yeah after making the 4 in my homebrew I told myself I wouldn't put myself throu...
Scope creep is real. Send help, my 8 alt frame project has expanded to 20 alts.
craggy hinge
Im no firefighter. That burning building is yours to conquer lol
limber maple
Tbf, it's alt frames... so even more impractical because almost nobody will use any of them compared to licensed gear. 😛
rocky hawk
Why not? People love alt frames
rocky hawk
I have axed two mechs
I'm not sure if I have any I could stand to cut
Uh, gloire? Maybe ?
limber maple
Is that an alt for literally every lisense
Nah. Even totaling the ones from my prior project, there's still no coverage for even a single manufacturer. I think I'm two or three frames off from each? So I can't even boast of that. 😔
craggy hinge
Uh, gloire? Maybe ?
THATS LIKE THE BEST ONE WHAT HOW COULD YOU
jolly gorge
but they have been axed from the release lcp
rocky hawk
THATS LIKE THE BEST ONE WHAT HOW COULD YOU
Uh okay ummm subutai?
jolly gorge
true as well