the way my soul sank
#The Sixth Voice -A Third Party Homebrew LCP
bright flint
jolly gorge
(Not anyone don’t use horos 1 on Blackbeard)
spare dune
Anyways yeah hi that’s my art Dreams of Belonging (the white witch) is piloted by an NHP and also the drawing isn’t finished the ferrofluid has an oil-slicked sheen to it that I haven’t drawn yet
dense cedar
goblin deez girl pills
dense cedar
gottem
bright flint
the nhp in question is a sweetheart i homebrewed a fairly over the top custom hardsuit for him to offset all the downsides of
being an nhp
rocky hawk
goblin deez girl pills
this isnt relevent at all but i got a new progesteron prescription and they are fucking neon orange for no reason
like taking jellybeans
bright flint
the narrative is cyberbullying him he needs an innate exotic trust
spare dune
LMAO
bright flint
this isnt relevent at all but i got a new progesteron prescription and they are ...
insane
spare dune
I get no use out of my innate exotic so it’s okay
rocky hawk
innate extoic is crazy
bright flint
I get no use out of my innate exotic so it’s okay
this guy doesnt run black thumb thats the only reason i let him have this for the record
spare dune
this isnt relevent at all but i got a new progesteron prescription and they are ...
I wish I could take pills for T but alas I’m forced to face my intense shaking terror of needles
spare dune
At least I would if I DIDNT LIVE IN THIS HELL SWAMP
rocky hawk
dont they have patches?
spare dune
dont they have patches?
Gel but it’s more expensive and I have an idiot cat who rubs on my shoulders when I sit down
rocky hawk
I wish I could take pills for T but alas I’m forced to face my intense shaking t...
my brother takes it and he said the needles arent that bad
rocky hawk
Gel but it’s more expensive and I have an idiot cat who rubs on my shoulders whe...
i thought it was inner thigh
knew a guy who did it that way
bright flint
it's basically a combination of 3 basic hardsuits
personal kinetic shielding, the carapace hardsuit, and the assault hardsuit
takes the best aspects of all 3 and smacks them together, then adds an innate set of aux melees on it. this sounds insanely good but it wont stop him from dying instantly
spare dune
my brother takes it and he said the needles arent that bad
It absorbs better on the shoulders and inner thighs but either way it’s not easy to get unfortunately
jolly gorge
At least I would if I DIDNT LIVE IN THIS HELL SWAMP
There are maybe 28 US states this could describe
spare dune
That’s very true
rocky hawk
im gonna guess like
bright flint
There are maybe 28 US states this could describe
its the swampiest helliest one
rocky hawk
florida
gloomy lotus
There are maybe 28 US states this could describe
50
jolly gorge
Georgia?
bright flint
bela is right
rocky hawk
georgia isnt as swampy i dont think
bright flint
i know his geographic location because chaos is my polyamorous boyfriend whom i love <3
rocky hawk
swamp can only mean a coupla things
gloomy lotus
Not Nevada lol
What’s a nevada
rocky hawk
dont even worry about it
jolly gorge
What’s a nevada
My glorious state
rocky hawk
YOU ARE COOKED
spare dune
i know his geographic location because chaos is my polyamorous boyfriend whom i ...
I’m going to throw rocks at you <3
gloomy lotus
not true!
some places are too dry to have swamps
Still hell then
rocky hawk
CHOPPED SHIT STATE
rocky hawk
for what???????
jolly gorge
Just go anywhere else
bright flint
i know his geographic location because chaos is my polyamorous boyfriend whom i ...
(this is also the other reason i gave him an innate exotic bc im A Little Biased. at least it's not one he can reasonably use in mech combat)
spare dune
My state is a state of denial
jolly gorge
for what???????
Fuckin no one here
rocky hawk
i love the empty desert
jolly gorge
Exactly
gloomy lotus
My state is a state of denial
Oregon?
jolly gorge
plenty of roomy places to die of thirst
In the mountains the weather is immaculate
rocky hawk
theres plenty of places to just hide away from people up in the mountains
jolly gorge
Never below 20, never above 75
rocky hawk
though my mountains are
jolly gorge
Mountains of Nevada is peak
rocky hawk
probably not tall enough
gloomy lotus
Never below 20, never above 75
75°C? You good?
rocky hawk
75 f
jolly gorge
75°C? You good?
K
gloomy lotus
Oh
jolly gorge
75 K
dense cedar
this isnt relevent at all but i got a new progesteron prescription and they are ...
LMAO
I might start prog in a few months
maybe not
ive been kinda unstable
rocky hawk
LMAO
I might start prog in a few months
maybe not
ive been kinda unstable
its,
if you arent stable i wouldnt recomend it
go with the normal ones first
spiro and estrodile are enough
jolly gorge
I’m in Ohio rn and it’s minimum -10 maximum 90 and this shit fuckin blows
dense cedar
I've been on E over a year now
but im like
maybe kinda having a crisis
idk
it's complicated
need therapy
maybe need anxiety meds
One of the big things I want from prog tbh is further breast growth
rocky hawk
anxiety meds are goated
rocky hawk
One of the big things I want from prog tbh is further breast growth
i got a bit, spiro was the big thing for that
and by big i mean basically nothing
dense cedar
i need to work on my appetite/eating
need more meat and fat on my bones
dense cedar
and by big i mean basically nothing
wait
what?
also im on spiro too
rocky hawk
you can drive through em and its so pretty
timber nacelle
I don't really have experience with HRT but I can say that fluoxetine has done wonders for my mental health
jolly gorge
This conversation is deeply related to sixth voice
rocky hawk
wait
what?
also im on spiro too
i was not destined to have big tits alas
timber nacelle
This conversation is deeply related to sixth voice
LANCER is inherintly transfem
jolly gorge
Idk what that means
rocky hawk
This conversation is deeply related to sixth voice
half the mechs are trans coded
rocky hawk
koremasa, sluagh, fitzgerald, black mountian, naga, myconid, purple thorn
maidens blush
jolly gorge
I wasn’t aware mass genocide was trans coded
bright flint
i love myconid im never going to use it because im too much of a gorgon lover
rocky hawk
sluagh probably the most so
rocky hawk
i love myconid im never going to use it because im too much of a gorgon lover
thats so fair
bright flint
this kitbash i posted earlier is actually my first ever piloted mech, Nimue. It's a gorgon despite appearances!
bright flint
its basilisk projectors make massive blades of light that, when they strike their targets, instantly cause severe system damage
jolly gorge
Sisyphus gorgon is DEEPLY in the game
bright flint
warhead gorgon
the warhead is supposed to be a kraul rifle
dense cedar
i was not destined to have big tits alas
oh i see
i may be doomed too
but i will fight fate
bright flint
because it's a vorpal + kraul + saddle lancaster
rocky hawk
oh i see
i may be doomed too
but i will fight fate
the facial changes were nice, prog also helps fill in for the less t
dense cedar
i gotta start exercising more and eating more and more fatty food
rocky hawk
i have an ass apparently
timber nacelle
Idk what that means
mecha as a genre has often been beloved by trans communities as it feeds very well into body dysphoria storylines and the whole "reject your natural form and instead use a body of your own creation" core of the genre
dense cedar
the facial changes were nice, prog also helps fill in for the less t
Yeah I've like subconsciously been hating my face less lately
rocky hawk
lighter facial hair
jolly gorge
mecha as a genre has often been beloved by trans communities as it feeds very we...
Ah I suppose that is a fair interpretation
bright flint
this kitbash i posted earlier is actually my first ever piloted mech, Nimue. It'...
carries its allies on its back and leaps around all the time while tearing people apart with its vorpal cannons, super super super fun to play. the other pilots i was with were a melee tokugawa and a goblin, so they needed the protection
dense cedar
lighter facial hair
fuck i need prog
rocky hawk
Yeah I've like subconsciously been hating my face less lately
i can sort of pass sometimes now so, it all helps
dense cedar
hate hate hate facial hair
bright flint
also sorry for not really giving much input on the current discussion, i'm only like 50% trans? im gnc as hell and dating 2 trans guys but i dont have much input here
bright flint
hate hate hate facial hair
OH MY GOD SAME
jolly gorge
mecha as a genre has often been beloved by trans communities as it feeds very we...
I have always interpreted in the way Miyazaki did, basically just fighter jets. Machines of war and suffering sure are fucking gorgeous
bright flint
I have always interpreted in the way Miyazaki did, basically just fighter jets. ...
it's both, truthfully
rocky hawk
also sorry for not really giving much input on the current discussion, i'm only ...
close enough you get to count
bright flint
tyyy <3
jolly gorge
I have always interpreted in the way Miyazaki did, basically just fighter jets. ...
Or the curious archive video on god engines
I LOVE PACIFIC RIMMMMMMM!!!
rocky hawk
I have always interpreted in the way Miyazaki did, basically just fighter jets. ...
they are!
ive had to fight the hell out of the mech fucker alegations
but they are pretty
i just like looking at em
jolly gorge
ive had to fight the hell out of the mech fucker alegations
I’ve given up fighting the jet fucker allegations
rocky hawk
the list didnt help
timber nacelle
or like every kojima game, "war is hell and the downfall of the human race, but got damn is soldier cool huh?"
dense cedar
the list didnt help
lemme guess, smash list?
rocky hawk
no
dense cedar
ive been meaning to make one/s with friends
rocky hawk
it was a BIT that went too far
bright flint
look at smith shimano corpro. look at smith shimano corpro and tell me the mechs are not traditionally attractive. tell me that rn.
spare dune
I’m going to do bad things
bright flint
they gave black witch toes. why did they do that.
spare dune
I won’t say to what. I won’t say to who.
rocky hawk
out of 10 ratings for how good each mech would be to fuck and reasoning
bright flint
INSANE
dense cedar
out of 10 ratings for how good each mech would be to fuck and reasoning
based based based
i wanna do that with 1st party + sixth voice
jolly gorge
or like every kojima game, "war is hell and the downfall of the human race, but ...
MGR:R lol
timber nacelle
out of 10 ratings for how good each mech would be to fuck and reasoning
not a mech fucker, just thinks about fuckin mechs 🤨
jolly gorge
Just the whole game
dense cedar
anyways yyall have fun i need to go clean this flesh prison called "my body"
rocky hawk
black witch was
10/10 t4t bdsm gfd
bright flint
jets are hot but in a different way from how mechs are hot, to me
mechs are hot in a traditionally attractive robotfucker way. jets are hot in the "slamming the gas pedal on this insanely fast car makes my heartrate go up 10,000000%"
gloomy lotus
black witch was
10/10 t4t bdsm gfd
*you wrote 11/10
bright flint
:squint:
rocky hawk
if i was i wouldnt have doen the list
rocky hawk
casue thats too close to home
rocky hawk
at least 10% of them were
x/10 DIED
bright flint
im with sigo here im sorry
spare dune
You are a mech fucker it came free with your fucking pilots license
gloomy lotus
im not a mech fucker even is the funniest part
Dusk wing rated at 9/10
rocky hawk
I MEAN
bright flint
there is like no act more intimate to a robot than literally CLIMBING INSIDE OF IT AND CONTROLLING IT
bright flint
all the best pilots are mechfuckers thats how it is those are the rules
timber nacelle
MGR:R lol
extremly that one, the scene in which you are confronted with the horrors of what you are doing to people by dicing them into little bits, you get a letter grade for how well you diced them into little bits
gloomy lotus
eninku was 8/10 ghengis was 3/10 stuff like that
Enkidu was rated 9/10. Ghengis was 4/10
bright flint
if you dont have complicated feelings about your robot you arent doing it right
rocky hawk
black witch, amber phantom, and myconid were the top 3
jolly gorge
all the best pilots are mechfuckers thats how it is those are the rules
I’m not but I’d wax ur ass in an armored core 1v1 LOCK IN.
rocky hawk
the myconid is the closest one to being actually true
misty lance
You rated the Enkidu as high as the Black Witch
i'm sorry but you are not beating the allegations
gloomy lotus
the myconid is the closest one to being actually true
Rated 10/10
rocky hawk
yep
dense cedar
"YOU ARE A MECH FUCKER! IT CAME FREE WITH YOUR FUCKING UNION CERTIFICATION!"
rocky hawk
i rated rakshasa too low ngl
gloomy lotus
this was pre sluagh
Update the list!
rocky hawk
NO
gloomy lotus
Update it!
rocky hawk
im trying to burry the mech fucker jokes
dense cedar
i rated rakshasa too low ngl
freak (loving)
jolly gorge
extremly that one, the scene in which you are confronted with the horrors of wha...
“Yeah I don’t actually know anymore if this war I’m fighting is justified or not but FUCK this is rad.” Literally just the “this isn’t my sword” line
rocky hawk
my real life girlfriend is in that server
bright flint
and seriphem was not rated
seraphim? what from?
rocky hawk
old version of sluagh
dense cedar
if its in this lcp im about to bang my head into a wall for forgetting
same thought
rocky hawk
its very complicated but its no longer there
got retextured
i think the only remnant is the sluagh compendium entry
misty lance
did the seraphim have art?
spare dune
Honestly mesh piloting is so Inherently intimate it’s why I always have extended compartment
rocky hawk
did the seraphim have art?
yes by my girlfirend
but she didnt want it shared at such a wide scale
so its removed and im not gonna put it here
spare dune
3some with me, another pilot, and the NHP in my mech systems
rocky hawk
im sure its somewhere if you really wanna look
misty lance
ah ok
rocky hawk
3some with me, another pilot, and the NHP in my mech systems
which nhp
spare dune
Wouldn’t you like to know
rocky hawk
nope kills you
spare dune
In all honesty whichever is the meanest to me about it
timber nacelle
I feel like noah would be the most caring
dense cedar
also Typhon but that's my own creation
imagine someone who really fucking hates authority and also is very responsible
rocky hawk
noah is the best options yeah
timber nacelle
In all honesty whichever is the meanest to me about it
sehkmet
rocky hawk
nope you die
spare dune
Exactly
bright flint
3some with me, another pilot, and the NHP in my mech systems
'another pilot' you can namedrop me
spare dune
That’s the point if I don’t die at least once during it then am I really having a good time /lh
bright flint
its ok you can namedrop me
spare dune
<3
rocky hawk
polyamory has evolved so much
timber nacelle
my mechfucker sibling has given their opinion, also noah
spare dune
I’m the bravest person in this room
rocky hawk
no, the most foolish
im not saying they cant be HOT
just that dying halfway through is fun for nobody
timber nacelle
I feel like me and athena would get along better as friends, maybe not lovers
timber nacelle
yeah
bright flint
polyamory has evolved so much
our third sadly doesnt play lancer </3 we gotta get him into it hes such a kicked puppy i adore him
rocky hawk
for sure
timber nacelle
nope kills you
"ASURA clones now recognize the need to keep their pilot alive and will operate within parameters set by their pilot’s medical and psychological tolerances." from the flavor text for ASURA, so I think it would ALMOST kill you
rocky hawk
id be too worried to enjoy it
bright flint
i mean thats fair yeah
rocky hawk
30 seconds
dense cedar
our third sadly doesnt play lancer </3 we gotta get him into it hes such a kicke...
what does it mean for a person to be a kicked puppy lol
dense cedar
30 seconds
bright flint
what does it mean for a person to be a kicked puppy lol
hes very emotionally unstable and extremely sweet but frequently very, very sad
bright flint
like when you have a dog that was clearly abused previously so they shiver at the sight of brooms and such
that's how he is, just as a person instead
fierce arrow
my mechfucker sibling has given their opinion, also noah
It's me, i'm the mechfucker sibling
rocky hawk
man
fierce arrow
damn i posted at the worst time
dense cedar
like when you have a dog that was clearly abused previously so they shiver at th...
okay yeah the picture helped here
rocky hawk
like when you have a dog that was clearly abused previously so they shiver at th...
this is so fucking real
bright flint
yeah no its quite sad but i love him hes very sweet
im worried lancer would give him a heart attack from the choice paralysis
unkempt iron
this isnt relevent at all but i got a new progesteron prescription and they are ...
Frothing at the mouth I need my doctor to put me on prog NOW
dense cedar
I wanna but not sure I should yet
mental state isn't the beeeest
bright flint
so like what's the visual on gloire's Extended Zone Control. how am i ramming from 3 tiles away.
dense cedar
go go gadget extendo fist iirc
rocky hawk
basically yeah
unkempt iron
One of my new players is new enough that they dont understand the concept of homebrew vs the "official" massif expansions and they straight up don't get why there wouldn't be a white witch alt made. Specifically because two of the people in the group are using sixth voice alt frames
And she's like "I like the systems but not the actual frame, why doesnt the white witch have a parallel one like the gloire?"
And ive explained multiple multiple times that these things are passion projects of fans of lancer and dont just like magically spawn into existence or come folded into every license
rocky hawk
LMAO
Tell em the reason I didn't make a white witch alt is cause I have no idea what to do with the liscence
unkempt iron
Also like, the systems and frame go so well together, its hard to imagine a different set of traits working well with them
winged crag
Could have the self damage do something else ig?
rocky hawk
Just checked through the liscence again
Id probably do something like, when you start your turn immobilized you can ping someone for damage
The actual want to take damage is pretty limited on the license itself
I don't know if it even needs an extra trait to do that so
Maybe some other enabler like, you have resistance to the first instance of damage you take each round
So you can get bigger value out of camus
Maybe as a reaction so you can choose the instance but only while immobilized
You are kinda stuck to some defender flavor but
Make it more of a striker as a hybrid frontliner
unkempt iron
Damn youre cooking
unkempt iron
Oh that would be delightful
rocky hawk
The goop...
gloomy lotus
Tell em the reason I didn't make a white witch alt is cause I have no idea what ...
Striker!
rocky hawk
Yeah
forest trail
maybe when it takes damage, it charges up
Legally Distinct Non-Copyright Shock Claws 2: Electric Boogaloo
rocky hawk
maybe when it takes damage, it charges up
Legally Distinct Non-Copyright Shock ...
John retort loop
forest trail
Just make retort loop integrated, trust me it won't break things
rocky hawk
It probably wouldn't to be fair
But white witch doesn't need the help
I like making alt frames for liscences that need it a bit more
Like barb
Mourning cloak
forest trail
In seriousness though WW's license is already extremely narrow, it'd take a lot to of wrangling to make an alt for it tbh
unkempt iron
Alt frame where all the numbers are doubled and its size three
And it gets an integrated dd288 that can skirmish and doesnt have to charge
rocky hawk
Explodes you with my mind
unkempt iron
And also it gets all of the lich systems integrated for free :3
rocky hawk
and its got 100 in every stat
unkempt iron
Purple Witch
New personal mission, trying to catalog of all of Bela's pet peeves and cooking up a lich alt frame so I am successfully psychically exploded
unkempt iron
Not even your own?
rocky hawk
depends
for playtests always for personal campaigns only if they really want to
current one yes but
first one no until like half way through
jolly gorge
Little more tanky, less damage
less damage?
than atlas?
the one with a main and a worse bonus d6 than amber phantom that has a main/aux
that atlas?
rocky hawk
yeah
jolly gorge
uhhuh
jolly gorge
the one with a main and a worse bonus d6 than amber phantom that has a main/aux
and sp 5 and heat cap 4
jolly gorge
the one with a main and a worse bonus d6 than amber phantom that has a main/aux
JK2 goated but anyone can use it
the humble mourning cloak
unkempt iron
Is the atlas really that bad??
jolly gorge
jaeger dodge iss extremely good, great license, giantkiller is excellent
rocky hawk
its weak its not like
jolly gorge
the mech isnt that bad, but its damage is not impressive
rocky hawk
awful
jolly gorge
its base stats are just so bad that the great traits struggle to make up for it
and ye as a striker the damage is not impressive
unkempt iron
Gotcha
One of my players who is very very new was intrigued by it
I will keep all this in mind
jolly gorge
it is a deeply punishing mech, definitely a hard to use one, and even harder to build
but I personally call it B-tier
it's not kobold at least, it does do things
unkempt iron
Yeah no even in a hypothetical sense the kobold seems like a license you steal from
unkempt iron
the kobold is one that feels like it needs alt frames to make its license work on a bespoke frame. ghoul and salamander are both solid
gloomy lotus
the kobold is one that feels like it needs alt frames to make its license work o...
Zheng’s a good Kobold alt
unkempt iron
Zheng’s a good Kobold alt
lol yeah thats true
kobold with superheavy mounting and a DD288
#opwaytoobroken
gloomy lotus
kobold with superheavy mounting and a DD288
You can achieve similar with the Plasmagauntlich
Since you can soul vessel the downside
gloomy lotus
Thats devious
:] 90% of what I play is Lich
lusty steppe
the kobold is one that feels like it needs alt frames to make its license work o...
wait from where ghoul is from?
unkempt iron
wait from where ghoul is from?
Trouble on DPOK
unkempt iron
:] 90% of what I play is Lich
I must become enlightened
gloomy lotus
I must become enlightened
The core, if you go with what’s written, priest heals and buffs, anything that affects anyone really, is yours if you want
And soulvessel applies to overcharge. Ask your dm if you take heat before or after the action or if they allow the action before the soul vessel teleport
Celestial shackle from goblin you can apply to yourself
You can protect enemies from players
Which can also reposition you quite a lot
Wandering nightmare doesn’t have the unique tag
Bentham/Foucalt elimination can be used to active your core.
Didymos only lets you move next turn as your doubles if you use it on yourself
gloomy lotus
So many neat tricks
Most things work. Though you should ask your dm about the core power
abstract stump
-- IPS-N Hazard @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Hazard 3, HA Gilgamesh 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Integrated Ammo Feeds, Overpower Caliber
[ TALENTS ]
Crack Shot 3, Walking Armory 2, Grease Monkey 2, Demolitionist 2
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:9 REPAIR:7
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+4
SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: HRR-SENESCHAL
MAIN MOUNT: HRR-SENESCHAL
HEAVY MOUNT: Legionnaire Battle Rifle // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
Emergency Armature x6, Brigid-Class NHP x8, SPEAR Charges x6
Probably a very common concept for a Hazard I whipped up. Might be better on a Gilgamesh, but why not I say.
abstract stump
Yeah. Long range guns, RPG, some minor support. Hazard really feels like an IPS-N Gilgamesh. Which in turn feels like IPS-N's version of a GMS Everest. I kinda vibe with it. It feels quite versatile in builds.
Artillery? Check. Striker? Sure, get a shotty or melee! Its got something.
rocky hawk
Always got something
abstract stump
Had to return to the Primrose cause my last build didnt satisfy me. but this might be the dumbest idea i've ever had. Evasion Build With Falcata, and having Terashima Blade on Lord's Stance. Armament Redundancy since both weapons are VERY unique. And Flourishing Twirl is there just because, though only having 3 uses means one has to choose their timing. Ok, thats the last time i'm posting in a while lol. Cheers.
-- SSC Primrose @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
SSC Primrose 3, SSC Atlas 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Full Subjectivity Sync, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ TALENTS ]
Executioner 3, Pankrati 3, Exemplar 2, Brutal 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:2 AGI:5 SYS:0 ENGI:1
STRUCTURE:4 HP:15 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:5
TECH ATK:-1 LIMITED:+0
SPD:7 EVA:15 EDEF:8 SENSE:10 SAVE:15
[ WEAPONS ]
MAIN MOUNT: SUPERHEAVY WEAPON BRACING
MAIN MOUNT: Terashima Blade
HEAVY MOUNT: Acrasial Falcata (DDMR) // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints
[ SYSTEMS ]
Flourishing Twirl x3, Armament Redundancy
dense cedar
kinda cooking here
i often overlook atlas
terashima blade's pretty cool here
rocky hawk
Yesss
jolly gorge
this is kind of semantics but where is the controller bit of black mountain's support/controller
rocky hawk
Lock on and doom
rocky hawk
Sure it but in past iterations it caused impairment
jolly gorge
the mech isnt controlling enemies it's just making allies not whiff ever
jolly gorge
Sure it but in past iterations it caused impairment
ah, well that would be controller
rocky hawk
It's a debuff
jolly gorge
but it doesnt
jolly gorge
the mech isnt controlling enemies it's just making allies not whiff ever
that doesnt harm the enemy in any way unless the allies do something with it
so support
it's kind of semantics, but I bring it up because I have no idea why BM gets save target 12 lmao
jolly gorge
the license definitely has control in it
jolly gorge
Cause it's got -2 tech
kinda figured that was to ensure it being incapable of being offensive like the emperor
rocky hawk
Spin!
jolly gorge
wha
misty lance
It's synergy for flourishing twirl
rocky hawk
Lots of saves on the frame too
jolly gorge
I mean lots of mechs have saves in license but either save target 10 or 11
rocky hawk
Core, magnetic
jolly gorge
blackbeard core
just because you have saves doesnt mean you deserve 12
very few deserve 12
jolly gorge
IMO primrose should lose save target in exchange for the ability to remain alive
you may have intentionally avoided evas 9, but I would argue it should have it
rocky hawk
Really? 20 threshold is weird
jolly gorge
"If an attack would put this benefit beyond +3 it resets to +0."
Im confused
9 base + 2 full sync + 3 passive + 6 HASE
jolly gorge
fair enough
I understand wanting it to not reach evas 20 to differntiate it from other high evas SSC melees like mourning cloak (or general strikers like amber phantom), but I dont think making it just evas 19 actually achieves that differentiation
but I understand why
rocky hawk
It's mainly just so it can be hit by not crits
And it's got good ass stats anyway so the crazy high dodge felt pushed
Overly high stats is something I had too much of in the past
jolly gorge
I think 11
rocky hawk
Blush can use the 12 though
jolly gorge
I don't think it's massively too strong with the 12, though I dont fully grasp why it wants it other than a trait that forces a save which lots of save 10-11 mechs ahve
license invovles no saves
rocky hawk
For which one
jolly gorge
personally I might consider hitting its save in exchange for tech, so it can use the great e-war options that moruning cloak can struggle to have the HASE for
jolly gorge
For which one
blush
rocky hawk
Oh that's because it's built very much around rend
jolly gorge
personally I might consider hitting its save in exchange for tech, so it can use...
I think this would be neat at least
but I get that one more than I get primrose tbh
I kinda just, dont understand what primrose brings to the table that another mech cant also do
but that's mostly a me issue
rocky hawk
Nasty threat and dodge
jolly gorge
so ye blush having 12 is more sensible
rocky hawk
Toku needs exposed for its threat and isn't a super heavy mech
So you get executioner value
rocky hawk
Lmao
jolly gorge
oh btw very good that rend doesnt immobilize anymore lol
as it is, it is like, 85% as good as lycan's power flux, and then we get extremely good other traits + a passive
jolly gorge
goated mech
the everest replacement that was NOT intended to be that
universal problem solver
manticore was like, almost a respected mech, even with unstable system
but now if ur on manticore license, THE GOAT, is RIGHT THERE
rocky hawk
I do like that so much if it's power is just from how good the claws are
jolly gorge
restitance trait that is only second to black witch who does NOTHING but have resistance to kinetic
was there an intent behind eternity hammer doing 4 different damage types
or just aura
just curious of there was some master plan
rocky hawk
Aura
jolly gorge
fair
rocky hawk
The rainbow theming
jolly gorge
ye
rocky hawk
I also just wanted a good high damage super heavy that wasn't gms
jolly gorge
this is not a real critique but I wish primrose had a heavy in the license lol
that is just me being whiny about sheavies tho
jolly gorge
I also just wanted a good high damage super heavy that wasn't gms
THE HUMBLE COMBAT DRILL?
rocky hawk
Oh it's good I can't deny that
past turtle
Teamkill the mech:
-- HA Enkidu @ LL11 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Blackbeard 3, HA Tokugawa 2, HA Leoleth 3, HORUS Manticore 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
The Lesson of Shaping, Reinforced Frame, Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
Technophile 3, Black Thumb 3, Duelist 3, Nuclear Cavalier 3, Pankrati 2
[ STATS ]
HULL:3 AGI:4 SYS:0 ENGI:6
STRUCTURE:4 HP:27 ARMOR:1
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:16 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:-2 LIMITED:+3
SPD:5 EVA:12 EDEF:8 SENSE:5 SAVE:16
[ WEAPONS ]
Integrated: Plasma Talons
Integrated: Fuel Rod Gun
FLEX MOUNT: Chain Axe
FLEX MOUNT: Thunder Sword
[ SYSTEMS ]
SEKHMET-Class NHP, Jörmungandr-Class NHP, W.I.N.G x5, Lightning Generator
rocky hawk
Sekhmet jorg is a scary combo
past turtle
sad it only comes online at ll9
rocky hawk
Id love to see it in action
vivid idol
In seriousness though WW's license is already extremely narrow, it'd take a lot ...
Absolutely, I was barely able to make one, and it to longer then most licenses
The only ways you can really change things up is how it uses it stuff, but even then that just risks it being WW to the left
vivid idol
Like barb
Do you already have this one made or no?
Id love to hear what you got cooking for it
rocky hawk
Subutai
unkempt iron
I spent all last night at a house show unable to stop thinking about an m/k 2 flavored as using miniature blinkspace gates to reload, and as soon as im done nursing this hangover I am banging this bad boy out
Feel free to throw suggestions at me for systems/weapons to slap in there, right now im torn between an AMR or CPR for the heavy
jolly gorge
Teamkill the mech:
-- HA Enkidu @ LL11 --
[ LICENSES ]
IPS-N Blackbeard 3, HA...
actual tragedy that Jorm activates on slowed or impaired and NOT immobilized
suffering from plasma talon success
jolly gorge
Subutai
oh speaking of subutai
basically armor 1.5 hp 8, pretty low for a defender that is diverting hostile attacks to it
am I missing something cuz that seems kind of unusably low
like low HP defenders are like white witch drake and lycan who have massive armor or resistance traits
(or both hi lycan)
drake does too but blast plating is usually worse than slag carapace
jolly gorge
like low HP defenders are like white witch drake and lycan who have massive armo...
or sagarmatha, who has a free brace, and is also kinda bad lol
rocky hawk
It's got difficulty on the rail and extra movement didn't want it too tanky
rocky hawk
actual tragedy that Jorm activates on slowed or impaired and NOT immobilized
Jorm is already so strong its been changed a ton
Used to even let you knock people prone
rocky hawk
Feel free to throw suggestions at me for systems/weapons to slap in there, right...
Cpr is funny but you can't always assume you have the core
Amr works better with the anti ord trait
The +1 accuracy and ap means thing like missile racks are actually kind of good
Howitzer is just funny
jolly gorge
It's got difficulty on the rail and extra movement didn't want it too tanky
difficulty to hit an evas 6 is kinda not useful
like ur evas 6
ur not building agility, your HASE is hull/engi + maybe sys at higher levels
so like, that's not useful for us to remain alive
it's true that it being able to move while immobilized is extremely potent
but I do think it kind of just isnt a defender
jolly gorge
but I do think it kind of just isnt a defender
or, rather, can't really be
jolly gorge
Jorm is already so strong its been changed a ton
oh I dont mean it should be buffed to count immobilize lol, just a funny thing that it doesnt work when they have the worse version of slowed, not saying it's a bad thing tho
timid frigate
Did your group ever test the Vauban Sigo?
jolly gorge
no, that one Im not sure we're gonna use
timid frigate
Yeah I was wondering how to best utilize it as well, cuz it also seems to have a thing that gives attacks against it +1 Difficulty conditionally but the Evasion is 6.
jolly gorge
yeah I mean the vauban is extremely good, and that is not part of the strength
it's nice tho
timid frigate
Right, makes sense.
jolly gorge
it's not completely useless
but it is not enough to make you a defender if ur bulk is armor 1.5 HP 8
timid frigate
Truth
jolly gorge
no, that one Im not sure we're gonna use
(iskander is just so fucking strong)
we do have an iskander and he is a menace
rocky hawk
Islander is so nuts
jolly gorge
Yeah I was wondering how to best utilize it as well, cuz it also seems to have a...
I too am a little unsure on the best way to use it, my gut would be hull+sys with engi at later levels, get an easy to spam heavy weapon, skirmish + invade every round
and then if we dont want to skirmish or invade we use vauban systems or the passive
like just autostab HMG + the 1d6 from solfotaric, 3d6+4 at LL3 + slowed and impaired as a basic zero pacer turn is really good
and iskander license is a series of extremely potent but highly niche quick actions, so replacing the invade with one of those on some turns is very easy
you can also comfortably replace the invade and systems investment with spamming the shit out of pinpoint focus and put people in air jail while doing the same 3d6+4, but that setup crumbles when faced with an ultra since you can only do it on each person once
and if ur playing with suldan (which you probably are if ur playing with homebrew), LL6 you take enhanced systems upgrade, go for goblin 1, attach a jam or puppet systems to what you are already doing
- an option to take lesson of the open door and run false idol prepared actions and bully enemies that want to accomplish anything at all
yapyapyap the mech can do a lot
jolly gorge
Islander is so nuts
extremely so
timid frigate
Sounds good
jolly gorge
difficulty to hit an evas 6 is kinda not useful
I am stupid btw
the difficulty is to hit anyone BUT subutai
so my point remains lol
we're just gonna shoot the subutai and it will die
look here! shoot me! I'm not tankier than my friend! ok, sure thing man
also, the subutai is kind of in a similar situation to vauban lol, heavy mounter with a pseudo bonus d6 lmao
I think the subutai should be given armor 2, but it needs to lose something in exchange
I would say drop the AP from the gun
jolly gorge
you could make it speed 2 instead of speed 3, and make it so that whenever it becomes immobilized it instead becomes slowed
rocky hawk
But my juggernaut drive
wooden yew
sorry if this was pointed out already, but there's a typo in the lcp in The Morrígan's system description
finite wyvern
Bella this is a serious error I am taking you to the union for public execution via overcharge asura autostab opcal hmg john everest
rocky hawk
What's the typo? I may be stupid
limber maple
"attacks (against) them," presumably.
abstract stump
Back again with another dumb build! Although, I think I nailed it lol. yes, it's an Amber Phantom, but I used Primrose and Leoleth for the build. I think it is very cool. I debated adding Jorg NHP, but Amber isnt exactly known for it's Heat Cap, so I left it out. Otherwise, we got Rend Axe for free attacks to combo with Duelist, Thunder Sword Greenlight for movement deterence and burn, shock knives with hunter for obvious reasons. Dazzling Wind for flight and potential prone of enemies (I debated Zip Engine, but the prone of Dazzling sounded better, but either is interchangable).
-- SSC Amber Phantom @ LL6 --
[ LICENSES ]
SSC Metalmark 2, SSC Primrose 1, HA Leoleth 3
[ CORE BONUSES ]
Overpower Caliber, Superior by Design
[ TALENTS ]
Duelist 3, Hunter 3, Nuclear Cavalier 2, Spaceborn 1
[ STATS ]
HULL:4 AGI:0 SYS:0 ENGI:4
STRUCTURE:4 HP:21 ARMOR:0
STRESS:4 HEATCAP:11 REPAIR:6
TECH ATK:0 LIMITED:+2
SPD:5 EVA:12 EDEF:6 SENSE:10 SAVE:13
[ WEAPONS ]
FLEX MOUNT: Shock Knife / Shock Knife
MAIN MOUNT: Rend Axe
MAIN/AUX MOUNT: Thunder Sword (GreenLight Projection) / Shock Knife // Overpower Caliber
[ SYSTEMS ]
Dazzling Wind x5, W.I.N.G x4, Reactive Weave, Personalizations
rocky hawk
Amber phantom jumping all over the place is really funny
I think thunder sword was a really good idea cause you are so rarely gonna be in the same spot each turn
abstract stump
It feels like the most Gundam Exia of all Lancer frames lol. The Sixth Voice stuff really adds to it.
Thunder Sword is a great deterant. Nobody wants to take free 5 points of AP damage lol. And I forgot Duelist gives you Feint so you can move out of the way lol. Extra funny and uses for Thunder Sword XD.
(So many features I lose track sometimes lol)
rocky hawk
made some minor tweaks
black mountain and primrose now have 10 save target
fixed the Morrigan typo
hazard now only grants its reliable to non aux weapons to prevent pistol spam
koremasa lost its armor but gained 2 evasion up to 10 and plasma shimmer now works on all attacks
makes it much more dodgey
unkempt iron
Koremasa my beloved
jolly gorge
makes it much more dodgey
I love gambling with my life
rocky hawk
its overall more survivable cause you have plasma shimmer
jolly gorge
yes fs
rocky hawk
fs?
rocky hawk
ah
jolly gorge
evas bulk is just funny
rocky hawk
im not sure what futher tweaks things need
i know you have a lot of opinions, so is there anything that stands out to you as needing nerfed/changed?
jolly gorge
lmao
a day does not go by in which I don't hear those exact words
hopefully my opinions are good and useful lol
jolly gorge
did primrose get any changes other than losing save 12?
jolly gorge
I think it's a big nerf and while I do agree with the nerf I find it quite resonable to bring something else up slightly
rocky hawk
honestly, im trying to lower the overall power level
lot of comments about things being overtuned
jolly gorge
totally fair, and honestly it's entirely possible that primrose is still perfectly powerful
Idk, it's a harder mech for me to visualize the power of
rocky hawk
its not like, nuts single target but its got a bunch of area control
jolly gorge
if you want to further that, a buff it could find is you allow it to overwatch people who stand up from prone
now idk if it should neccessarily get that in its current state, may be too much, but that functions with its current kit and license well and furthers its design idea
kinda depends if you want the LCP to be balanced like the amber phantom is or balanced like the drake is lol
rocky hawk
you know
thats a good point, but
i think the idea is i want people to look at it and go, ah, that seems pretty balanced
jolly gorge
well, lol, I'm not sure how much I can help with that
rocky hawk
its more of just bringing down the overall power level
im aiming for under amber phantom but over drake
like a
jolly gorge
well, lol, I'm not sure how much I can help with that
as someone who plays the game in a very locked in manner, I can only really know if something's absolute power is too low or high, not how any individual who puts superheavy mounting on kobold would think lol
jolly gorge
solid base stats, extra threat is extremely good for heavies, speedy, solid SP, NOT heat cap 4, reasonable bulk,
I think mag weight distribution might deserve a very slight buff
like that's what power knuckles do without being 1/round and are aux's
I think that would probably keep it in low A, but make it feel a bit better
also it's on crit with a weapon type that is very hard to find accuracies for (heavy melees).
Chain axe does a fuckin SHRED on crit and it gets duelist
rocky hawk
yeah i think that bit will be changed
jolly gorge
yeah like either you could make its prones more valuable by letting it overwatch people when they stand, give it some method to raise its rolls, or add some bit to the on crit
I dont think it needs much, but I do think it deserves a little
jolly gorge
what would say the three strongest mechs are?
I will answer this in a sec
Glorie having a passive that it cant use with hyperdense is rough
Goire having tech 0 and SP 6 is a little weird, I get that it's a tortuga alt, the sleeper e-war mech, but like, tortuga is the sleeper e-war mech and its license does not help it do that in any way at all, so gloire doesnt care
idk I think maybe allow it to use its passive while slowed at like half speed, but lose a tech and an SP, idk that's just a random thought
jolly gorge
I havent considered that opinon thoroughly enough to be firm in it
but it's a reasonable enough idea that I will say it
to be clear I think gloire is like, probably not particularly overtuned
jolly gorge
what would say the three strongest mechs are?
it is a good thing that i am struggling to answer this
I am actively searching and struggling to find an answer
Rakshasa is up there
rocky hawk
Black mountain too for sure
jolly gorge
yeah probably
a nitpick, but myconid being tech 0, every single horus mech is tech 1 minimum. You can make a horus tech 0 if you gotta but it's definitely weird
symbiosis is cray but I dont fully know the rammies on it never used it
Myconid is probably up there for strongest
woah I had not read Slaugh's passive
ok so leader 3, unlimited times so long as they are adjacent
I would put a round cap on the passive lol
like 2/round or smth
1/round/character minimum
but if you dont like that, 2/round
yeah final answer, rakshasa, myconid, slaugh
with rakshasa being mostly fine, myconid maybe being overtuned, slaugh being #1
rocky hawk
I would put a round cap on the passive lol
oh my god its supposed to have one
i must have deleted it when i swapped the cores
fuck
jolly gorge
FUCK YOU T3 Ronin/Operator/Specter, my buddy gets 1d6 overshield for all 3 of your attacks
jolly gorge
lol much more reasonable
still quite good, but ye BM, rakshasa, myconid
I do not think BM deserves more nerfs
that poor poor mech
rocky hawk
it was one of the earliest designs
but its also got one of the best compendiums so it can tank the nerfs
jolly gorge
dude yeah no that one goes hard
jolly gorge
it was one of the earliest designs
I genuinely fucking purged all of my early designs, none of my mechs look even slightly like their first concept versions lol
that's just the nature of them
rocky hawk
tied with Grutte Pier i think
rocky hawk
I genuinely fucking purged all of my early designs, none of my mechs look even s...
oh yeah
thats so fucking real
the base idea was giving out 1 oversheild non stacking and then whenever someone with overshield dealt any damage it did 1 ap more
jolly gorge
I had a mage mech that swapped between artillery/striker/defender based upon its elemental state, and it was almost balanced, but it basically had to have 4 traits minimum and crazy base stats to even be mildly competent at all 3, and I just scrapped it
rocky hawk
I had a mage mech that swapped between artillery/striker/defender based upon its...
thats actually so fucking cool
i love that archetype
jolly gorge
but ye it Lightning (artillery), Fire (Striker), Earth (Defender), Ice (controller)
rocky hawk
if i were to make one it would basically just work like rakshasa
choose an element each turn or like on repair
like uh
rocky hawk
oleander
rocky hawk
Im a sucker for a lightning theme
ITS SO COOL
manticore my beloved
one of the most fun mechs
beckoner in general is really fun
jolly gorge
choose an element each turn or like on repair
yeah that is a much better way to go about it, this mfer could hot swap elements with a protocol
jolly gorge
ITS SO COOL
FC's logo lmao:
rocky hawk
LIGHTNING
jolly gorge
I am particularly obsessed with lightning theming
rocky hawk
thats so real and based
gloomy lotus
I am particularly obsessed with lightning theming
:]
rocky hawk
aster play more manticores
also aster, how do you feel about playing mechs developed by outside companies
jolly gorge
but ye it Lightning (artillery), Fire (Striker), Earth (Defender), Ice (controll...
also one of my most dubious NHP, Janus-class NHP, Protocol to stance switch the NHP, each stance had a seperate limited 1 Full Tech
rocky hawk
like uh, heca
jolly gorge
it was dumb
gloomy lotus
like uh, heca
Let me go check
rocky hawk
or orchis
jolly gorge
Let me go check
heca is an ecoterrorist
rocky hawk
orchis is ssc but its not like, actually ssc
jolly gorge
"On Free Sanjak, the Hecatoncheires is a weapon of terror"
just fuckin outright says it
gloomy lotus
heca is an ecoterrorist
Look I play Lich. I terrorise reality daily
jolly gorge
nonono
not terrorizing spacetime, an unfeeling physics concept
terrorizing humans and wildlife
as nanites typically do
jolly gorge
i hate heca
I have a heca player in my game
Overcharge nanocomp krakatoa infiltrator build
maximum wildlife death
krakatoa OC krakatoa hide
rocky hawk
I have a heca player in my game
im so sorry
jolly gorge
repeat
rocky hawk
that thing having a heavy mount and no downside is nuts
jolly gorge
im so sorry
it's okay I put a guy with a line in the map and he has to run away for a round while I beat his team up
gloomy lotus
also aster, how do you feel about playing mechs developed by outside companies
It’s Horus by design so I’ll probably play it.
gloomy lotus
aster play more manticores
Lycan maybe. Am I ready enough to go into the death pill bug? Not yet
jolly gorge
I mean lycan is really just better manticore
they are different
but lycan is just better lol
rocky hawk
but it doesnt FEEL like a manticore
gloomy lotus
Just read heca. Not my usual approach but yeah that fucks. Wanna see what it does if I do hydra and an ally does swallowtail ranger
jolly gorge
that thing having a heavy mount and no downside is nuts
didnt you used to say this mech sucks
gloomy lotus
I mean lycan is really just better manticore
Yeah no the psychological violence on the Manticore might be usable against Bel in play tests
jolly gorge
idk man that drone pretty damn good
pretty fuckin shit active but hey I don't like those anyways
gloomy lotus
Right now I was cooking up a Rahleigh tortuga mix with just two systems and a mod and… uh… 7 hand cannons, two of which fire for free
:]
jolly gorge
typical raleigh things
gloomy lotus
not terrorizing spacetime, an unfeeling physics concept
Spacetime has feelings, see Outer Wilds
jolly gorge
Right now I was cooking up a Rahleigh tortuga mix with just two systems and a mo...
now imagine being a stortebeker, firing 5 hand cannons, AND firing a heavy melee, and then doing that every turn
what a normal reasonable mech
gloomy lotus
typical raleigh things
Yeah then just Roland and then just tortuga hyperdense
gloomy lotus
what a normal reasonable mech
What is a reasonable mech?
jolly gorge
stort
gloomy lotus
Knife egg
rocky hawk
has a drawback that can be exploited or played around
jolly gorge
everything but stort, lycan, phantom, iskander, orchis, empakaii
everything but them
is reasonable
rocky hawk
phantom?
jolly gorge
phantom is close to reasonable
rocky hawk
what is phantom
gloomy lotus
everything but stort, lycan, phantom, iskander, orchis, empakaii
:] yippie
jolly gorge
what is phantom
amber phantom
rocky hawk
AH
jolly gorge
it would be reasonable if it wasnt nelson erasure
rocky hawk
i love the context but just
jolly gorge
just literally better at nelson's job in every way
rocky hawk
FREE 1d6
rocky hawk
when you hit like ll5
jolly gorge
but if you build them well around a well built team comp, they have no weaknesses
rocky hawk
and all the npcs are teir 2 but you havent hit ll6
jolly gorge
when you hit like ll5
oh ye tier 1's are pretty weak
but like T3 specters doing 50 damage in a skirmish
gloomy lotus
NPC's are fucking broken lmao
Why is that, actually?
jolly gorge
just absurd damage
rocky hawk
but like T3 specters doing 50 damage in a skirmish
lmao i love specters
just send in a vet with limitless and just delete 2 structure
jolly gorge
this is core book btw
rocky hawk
love me a short cycle
rocky hawk
the most valuable stabilize ever
jolly gorge
true
jolly gorge
the most valuable stabilize ever
until they have limitless
and then just shoot you with anything
rocky hawk
what is the best npc to ultra in your opinion
not for power but for like
fun to fight
jolly gorge
it depends on the enemy team comp
oh
nvm
I was gonna say breacher if they have a lot of low evas bulk
but that isnt fun to fight lmao
rocky hawk
like an ultra spite is bad
jolly gorge
eat shit 60 dmage ur shredded
Im gonna do it again
and Im gonna that 3 times this round
rocky hawk
i lvoe me a cataphract
jolly gorge
ultra monstrocities are reasonable
just call them biomecha so they can be e-war'd
and give them a heatcap
and then they're good
gloomy lotus
How do you fight an ultra witch?
jolly gorge
How do you fight an ultra witch?
melee assasin
gloomy lotus
Thanks
gloomy lotus
Ll1
gloomy lotus
Yes
jolly gorge
walls lol
gloomy lotus
Playing technophobia
jolly gorge
or use your active
jolly gorge
your active will help you get in and explode it
gloomy lotus
Noted
jolly gorge
and split up as to get not predatory logic'd
it's real map dependant but #1 rule is they cant hurt you while dead so bum rush DPS max is often the play
gloomy lotus
Yeah guess so
jolly gorge
fun to fight
seeder
hear me out
search
so long as you have a person with a big sys stat, ultra seeder is fun
ultra pyro is fun as a crawling ball of death
but I genuinely think seeder
jolly gorge
yeah lol, quick action systems check, you learn the location of all mines in sensors
if you fail the check you get nothing tho
gloomy lotus
…
jolly gorge
did bela scam you lol
gloomy lotus
Nah she didn’t like my solution to not knowing I could look for the fuckers
jolly gorge
Core book
"Mines within a character’s SENSORS can be detected by making a
successful SYSTEMS check as a quick action, otherwise
they are HIDDEN and can’t be targeted."
gloomy lotus
I ran Lich and did the OBJ, walked into 3 of em. Took damage from one iirc or none
jolly gorge
"Detected mines
can be disarmed from adjacent spaces by making a
successful SYSTEMS check as a quick action; the
attempt takes place before the mine detonates, and on
a failure, the mine detonates as normal."
gloomy lotus
I ran Lich and did the OBJ, walked into 3 of em. Took damage from one iirc or no...
Continued doing obj
jolly gorge
lich minesweeper
gloomy lotus
Yeah
jolly gorge
the better play, grapple the seeder, and use that fucker as the mine sweeper
gloomy lotus
By just walking into them
gloomy lotus
the better play, grapple the seeder, and use that fucker as the mine sweeper
Too far, not arsed enough to care
jolly gorge
lol fair
gloomy lotus
Walk through mines repeatedly is more simple. Let me actually use didymos
unkempt iron
everything but stort, lycan, phantom, iskander, orchis, empakaii
Is stort really that crazy? It hurts my brain trying to make sense of a build for it
Beyond dual cat hammer, high acc ranged toy
jolly gorge
Is stort really that crazy? It hurts my brain trying to make sense of a build fo...
at low levels it's mid, at high levels when an accuracy means a 50/50 crit rate, it's highest damage mech in game
a very simple way to use it is var sword + cannibal/bolt thrower
with core integrated + hunter for 3 total rolls to crit
and use that to reload the big damage heavy ranged weapon
with a 50/50 to crit, 3 rolls has an 87.5% crit rate, with overcharges also comfortbaly being on the table at high LL's
as well as, if you whiff a crit, you can just make it a crit 1/scene, which is usually enough
and if you need more, active
so yeah, @ LL6 it's a little hard, 9+ it's the biggest damage in the game
and it doesn't have survivability troubles, it doesnt have speed troubles, it doesnt have any real troubles at all
and it can use reprise to just comfrotably violate duplicate action restrictions
misty lance
I didn't realise that Stort had 7 e-def
that's kind of obscene
jolly gorge
yeah insane mech
one of my players used one during the final mission of our last campaign, LL12, like fuckin 19 phase bossfight, basically 3 eidolons back to back to back, he did so much damage lmao
he did like 2/3 of phase one's 120 HP turn 1 AFTER using shahnameh on a buddy (which he used reserves to bring), so wasnt even full damage
all in all the boss had like 1200 HP or smth lmao and the combat only lasted 21 rounds, and that was with doing a shit load of mechanics
lots of destiny-esque raid mechanics and eidolon mechanics to bypass immunities and stuff
jolly gorge
but its also got one of the best compendiums so it can tank the nerfs
it actually inspired the compendium for by Camus
not directly, more spiritually, the kind of philosophical writing idea
rocky hawk
Nah she didn’t like my solution to not knowing I could look for the fuckers
you didnt ask to search for them!
rocky hawk
it actually inspired the compendium for by Camus
thats actually heartwarming
black mountain and piere have so much aura
rocky hawk
one of my players used one during the final mission of our last campaign, LL12, ...
what????? 19 phases???
1200 hp and 21 rounds is nuts
jolly gorge
thats actually heartwarming
This is the compendium
"If you are to kill, then you are a killer. Hypocritical and thoughtless beings scry proofs of moral calculus to justify the sinking of a blade into another's flesh. Monoliths of hypocrisy. Such justification cannot exist. Killing cannot be justified. Rage cannot be justified. Hatred cannot be justified. These things are the origin of all else, and thus have no reasoning. They simply are. To exist is to hate. To exist is to end another's. We sit in metal mockeries of human forms built to fire god-breaking bullets and world shattering blades. Don't be afraid. Life clings to the point of your dagger. Push it."
rocky hawk
my players do like 4 rounds in 4 hours
gloomy lotus
you didnt ask to search for them!
I didn’t know I could fucin do that
jolly gorge
This is the compendium
"If you are to kill, then you are a killer. Hypocritical...
not done yet
rocky hawk
holy based
jolly gorge
because Im sitll messing wth it
rocky hawk
This is the compendium
"If you are to kill, then you are a killer. Hypocritical...
goated
the idea of, how come we are trying to do good things in war machines is one i love
there was gonna be a compendium about it that got scrapped
jolly gorge
my players do like 4 rounds in 4 hours
it was an 8 hour boss fight to be fair lol
jolly gorge
1200 hp and 21 rounds is nuts
it was a final boss of a 1.5 year long campaign lol
I had to make it insane
the mfer could freely invert cause and effect at will
he could make you drop dead, and then go stab you when you cant stop him (cuz ur dead), completing the cause and effect, just flipping them
so making it make any sense to have the players win required having them lock tf in for 21 rounds
rocky hawk
thats crazy
i do plan on doing something like that but one of my players checks this thread occassionally so i cant say anything
jolly gorge
lol good luck
rocky hawk
nothing quite that nuts
jolly gorge
you gotta give it a weakness, his weakness was that he only gets so long to go through with the cause, and if he doesnt complete the cause fast enough, the effect ends and is pushed to him
but absurd powers with massive exploitable weaknesses are soooo fun
jolly gorge
you gotta give it a weakness, his weakness was that he only gets so long to go t...
so the person that died stands back up, and he just dies on the spot
anyways off topic but ye, stort blew through a couple of his health bars in record time
rocky hawk
stort moment
unkempt iron
Im glad me and my whole fireteam are new, so they dont ruin my encounters like that
Well
Ruin is a strong way of putting it
Blitzing through in a way that I am not yet experienced enough with lancer to compensate for
rocky hawk
ITS SO COOL
kindred prairie
dragonkid11 noted that your mechs are kinda overtuned. I wonder how busted the roster is, it didn't feel that way at first glance (but clearly I'm wrong looking at past convo here)
rocky hawk
It's, complicated id say?
Id you have thoughts about what may be overtuned lemme know
But Id like to think it's fairly balanced overall post changes
jolly gorge
dragonkid11 noted that your mechs are kinda overtuned. I wonder how busted the r...
most of the overtuned things have been changed to be much less so
a couple months ago, it was very true, as of the most recent patch, it is very close to first party balance
she is very receptive to feedback and clearly has a deep understanding of the game
unkempt iron
Did the comp con revert some of the changes? I thought the damage boost of black mountain was a 2/round reaction
solid garden
Harrison armory dissaproves👎
jolly gorge
Did the comp con revert some of the changes? I thought the damage boost of black...
comp/con v3 has exploded many things
one of my friends last night reported that he somehow had a version of one of my mechs in his comp/con that only ever existed in 1 lcp file, and he never once had that file downloaded
he never once had FC 1.0 on his computer, and the follesdal somehow was displaying as its 1.0 version
unkempt iron
Horus put it there
solid garden
What's up with them?
rocky hawk
no i just know the guy
jolly gorge
it is always commendable to make anything at all, create art for it, and put it into the world
but yeah that shit is so big lol
iirc it was 60 mechs
it is very very commendable to have THAT many ideas and flesh them out enough to create an LCP for it
rocky hawk
im not sure how fleshed out all of them are
jolly gorge
YOUR WORDS NOT MINE
jolly gorge
oh fr
misty lance
mine is like 40
so I understand
jolly gorge
ok well still, I mean no disrespect at all
but yeah most of it is kind of non-additions that do nothing new
jolly gorge
I have my opinions on the server's moderation that I will withhold
so my opinions of him are hardly affected by his banning
gloomy lotus
hes banned here lmao
???
rocky hawk
its a little strict, but i think you can say that
gloomy lotus
Who
rocky hawk
it makes sense for a server this big, no real time to delve into things
but it does have its downsides
uh, jyva
hes in open table
gloomy lotus
What bout him?
rocky hawk
hes banned and he made the newcomers
gloomy lotus
hes banned and he made the newcomers
What’s that? Do you dislike it?
jolly gorge
but yeah most of it is kind of non-additions that do nothing new
which, to be fair, is extremely hard to not do, and the LCP contains a decent bit of actually good stuff, it would just be better off if the chaff was cut to makle room for the good stuff to shine
rocky hawk
i dont hate it, i dont use outside homebrew at all
jolly gorge
sixth voice supremacist smh
rocky hawk
~~the real answer is i find that most homebrew mixes poorly ~~
YES, ALL OTHER HOMEBREW IS TRASH THAT I SPIT UPON
jolly gorge
~~the real answer is i find that most homebrew mixes poorly ~~
YES, ALL OTHER HO...
honestly I find this not to be true
rocky hawk
other than MY GLORIOUS CREATION
jolly gorge
like i hear people say this all the time and I dont agree
rocky hawk
i mean thats fair but stuff like zip type can get busted