Esp since some of the more complicated weapons like the power sword and knife aren’t on the right
#Space Marine 2
grand lantern
clever ember
You're right, since the power sword is dead in the middle and has dedicated horde and dueling stances.
vestal cedar
love when the game bugs out
just had a mission get fucked cause the ammo containers we needed completely bugged out and we couldn't pick up like half of the resources available
restarted the mission and now all of the weapon pickups are fucked
lovely
barren coral
Yeah, that was fun playing "dodge the sorcerer" for a elevator
vestal cedar
it's really annoying that the game just fucks up completely when i try to quit out literally every time
gritty cove
For all the games flaws this has been my emotional experience with it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Scr3bRXbA9o&pp=ygUZY3JpdGljIHRhc3RlcyByYXRhdG91aWxsZQ%3D%3D
Took me right back to 2009
vocal spade
yeah its quite a nostalgia trip
vestal cedar
on mission 3 and the pickups on the elevator are STILL bugged
now neither me or my friend can pick up any of the weapons
the only good thing is that we have access to the ammo boxes now both of us
tame surge
huh, I just had the crash reporter show up during the intros
and the intros kept running until I told the reporter to not send, which shut the game down
vestal cedar
i'd honestly consider this a game breaking glitch low-key
we're just not able to finish this mission cause we are not able to use the resources
vestal cedar
it's working after we restarted the mission
frosty karma
Is it for both of you or just them
past stone
on mission 3 and the pickups on the elevator are STILL bugged
Oh me and my friends had to glitch too
tho it was only the grenades and healing items we couldn't pick up
sadly don't know if there is a fix, we just powered though it (took us 4 tries, not fun)
modest oxide
AI companions being ass is a time honored tradition, like Coach walking off the roller coaster in L4D2
south swallow
Tis criminal that there aren't enough phobos options to go 3 man phobos team
vestal cedar
Melta Rifle is so good
tame surge
Heavy Bolt Rifle seems unexpectedly weak, though
Like... it barely does anything that the regular bolt rifle doesn't, it feels like
worldly pebble
AI companions being ass is a time honored tradition, like Coach walking off the ...
He went off to be a one man cheeseburger apocalypse
vestal cedar
Gadriel is really funny
vestal cedar
For those we cherish, we die in glory!
vestal cedar
that's all i got
they unfortunately aren't actually in the game
which is kinda goofy ngl
we got the uhhhh
Omega Marines???
but no Lamenters
vestal cedar
not even a dlc chapter, like, come on
barren coral
the DLC chapters are Ultramarine successors
vestal cedar
i would have gotten the season pass if the Lamenters were in it
barren coral
I suspect we're going to get a pile of Dark Angel successors in the season pass
so Lamenters not for a bit unfortunately
vestal cedar
pain
also the season pass is fucking expensive
chances are, if we end up being lucky and the blood angels get a season that includes Lamenters somehow, i'll just buy that separately
modest oxide
The season pass is primarily cosmetic, free line has all the gameplay stuff
vestal cedar
i am NOT spending 40 euro on cosmetics, in no universe is that happening
at least, i hope they will let you buy shit separately and not just through the season pass which is 40 euro
royal heart
To be fair it is all the cosmetics. All of them. Forever
They might try to do all the first founding chapters...
vestal cedar
yeah but i also payed 40 dollars for Shadow of the Erdtree
royal heart
Very true
vestal cedar
which was basically a whole ass game on its own
maybe in the future it will be worth it but i certainly don't think so for the time being
royal heart
I just got gold edition before the price hike so maybe I am biased in favour of the season pass
vestal cedar
i pre-ordered the normal version
gold edition is 30 extra bucks so less expensive than buying both separately
but still 90 euro for a game just for cosmetics
instead of the normal 60
might get the season pass at some point in the future if the game keeps getting updated and stays good
royal heart
Gold edition used to be only £20 more
barren coral
<@&1281758630688981034> anyone for Operations?
royal heart
Or just before the EA
spark tendon
Lets go
grand lantern
<@&1281758630688981034> anyone for Operations?
I’ll be on in about 10 mins
vestal cedar
80 bucks for game and season pass would be palateable for me
unfortunate i missed it
barren coral
RAVKD
vestal cedar
anyway we'll see how the game progresses
i might end up biting for the season pass at some point later so long as it doesn't suddenly change in price
barren coral
T5T6k
south swallow
Like... it barely does anything that the regular bolt rifle doesn't, it feels li...
In game its weaker than the bolt rifle but almost has twice the bolts and has extra pierce. I think it's weird too, but it did need to have a distinct role from the other bolt guns I guess
primal venture
Its a horde suppression weapon, basically
vestal cedar
i've been using Melta Rifle to just obliterate swarms
i kinda fucking need it cause me and my friend are duo on the highest difficulty
those constant checkpoints are a life saver
Chairon is basically only useful as a living reliquary equivalent to revive us when we need it
south swallow
for a sec i thought you meant you were doing operations at the highest difficulty\
im pretty sure those require/highly recommend having classes up to a certain level, with some upgraded guns n stuff
vestal cedar
for a sec i thought you meant you were doing operations at the highest difficult...
nah the campaign
turbid nebula
Heavy Bolt Rifle is fine, especially upgraded.
turbid nebula
The Auto Bolt Rifle is the one that I haven't really found a use for.
south swallow
im a big fan of the basic bolt rifle so far
turbid nebula
Considering it has less power, accuracy, and ammo count than the heavy
vestal cedar
Melta Rifle + Laspistol + Chainsword is my favourite combo
south swallow
the auto shoots fastest, so is most comfortable of them all for hipfire spraying and prayin
turbid nebula
My favorite is honestly just the stock Bolt Rifle if I'm running Tactical
south swallow
same
barren coral
DIJQ5
vestal cedar
been using laspistol to pop big enemies and just butchering small hordes with Melta Rifle
turbid nebula
You can tap fire it and have it be essentially a marksman rifle
vestal cedar
chainsword 3 hit+stop is goated
turbid nebula
For heavy, I'm pretty much exclusively Heavy Bolter
I am uncomplicated. I like the dakka.
south swallow
laspistol?
turbid nebula
Yes
south swallow
yeah
vestal cedar
thinking of the other 40k game, Darktide lol
the loading screen is the exact same
past stone
im pretty sure those require/highly recommend having classes up to a certain lev...
funny thing is. high level operations are easier with 2 players and a bot
cuz the bots cheat ,they barely take any damage and actually do shit compared to the campaign bots
low hearth
personally im waiting for someone to load up modded XCOM 2 with space marine characters and make a "i think theres something wrong with my copy of SM2" joke
vestal cedar
yeah i was thinking that
having played on Angels of Death
Chairon is NOT taking any damage at all
in 1 second my healthbar will halve as soon as a nid gets close
turbid nebula
I just need somebody to make a handy Dawn of War soundboard.
vestal cedar
Chairon will wade through 500 nids all attacking him and get jump attacked 5 times and take no fucking damage
turbid nebula
So whenever I get knocked down, I can spam my teammates with "BROTHER I AM PINNED HERE"
vestal cedar
do you get the lethal damage thing in operations too
turbid nebula
MOrtal wounds?
vestal cedar
that yeah
turbid nebula
Yes
vestal cedar
makes sense
turbid nebula
And how many times you cna go down depends on the difficulty
vestal cedar
i see i see
yeah the only reason we've been able to actually win is just the constant fucking checkpoints
turbid nebula
Also the joys of leveling up moving up a difficulty level, and learning that different difficulties haeve different enemy spawns
vestal cedar
they've been a godsend
turbid nebula
Or "Oh fuck, that's a Hellbrute"
past stone
Or "Oh fuck, that's a Hellbrute"
rather a ||hellbrute|| than 3 ||terminators|| honestly
vestal cedar
though last mission we did learn about what Aurora is
which made me think "yeah, we're going to see some chaos in this game huh"
south swallow
is ||helbrute|| a spoiler? I was gonna say I love the way the game presents a ||helbrute|| to us
legitimately scary enemy
vestal cedar
i had no idea we would see that much chaos shit so i'd say so?
i thought i might get to see some marines at best
south swallow
the follow up would be are we keeping this channel spoiler free or nah?
south swallow
Cause the game has only come out for like 3 days or so right?
copper swallow
The codex astartes does not approve this action
I started the final mission last night but couldn't finish it before bedtime, I sure hope my co-op buddy can load in from the same checkpoint...
the entire arc on the last planet is one giant mission 
vestal cedar
so far best way i can describe him is as an annoying younger sibling who keeps pesteting you(in this case the you is Titus)
copper swallow
I found it really funny how he's like gossiping to Chairon about how Titus is firstborn and Chairon looks at him like
vestal cedar
Yeah lol
copper swallow
"you can't just ASK someone why they're not born Primaris"
vestal cedar
It's very funny
copper swallow
He's hogging all the good interactions (idk about the Operations ones I've only successfully finished one)
copper swallow
Doing it solo is a struggle, the bots don't know how to cover you on the objective
it went a lot smoother yesterday after my second battle brother got his connection issues sorted out and we could have a full squad
I would not want to play the pyreblaster gimmick missions solo :/
vestal cedar
Yeaaaah that would suck
I'm playing duo on highest difficulty with my buddy
Which is why we've not gotten so far, among other things
grand lantern
kinda funny how rare this is
primal venture
It's even funnier when Sniper is extremely good too
grand lantern
Yeah they're kind of weird to play because you use your pistol so much
But they're very good
primal venture
Yeah, the precision weapons in this game fuck
grand lantern
The other nice thing is that the bolt pistol is real good
I'm confused why they can't get the heavy bolt pistol though
primal venture
The Vanguard's Instigator Bolt Carbine can take a Warrior to execution range in five well aimed trigger pulls
Maybe four, I haven't done exact tests
primal venture
The 2 Armour can make it a little tricky but I've had a lot of success
Plus they get the cool Reiver helmets
grand lantern
I've mostly been playing Tactical, Assault, and Sniper
I want to try more out but the grind is real lol
primal venture
Yeaaah
I've been doing Heavy and Vanguard for the moment
Heavy is extremely fun, although it suffers from only really being able to use the Heavy Bolter off the rip
proper cosmos
I've heard assault really suffers without perks
primal venture
The other two suffer from pretty extreme ammo economy issues
proper cosmos
But also, having used the power sword in campaign, I'm now all in for bulwark
primal venture
The power sword is so good
proper cosmos
The hit pause hit finisher is so cool
Hammer seems a little underwhelming, at least at level 1
grand lantern
A lot of the weapons gain a lot of stats with rank ups
The standard issue ones are kinda peashootery
proper cosmos
Mm, yeah
barren coral
The Vanguard's Instigator Bolt Carbine can take a Warrior to execution range in ...
The issue with the instigator is it's fighting with the Melta for Vanguard's primary slot
proper cosmos
And inimagine the assault getting hyperarmor while charging will be useful
primal venture
The issue with the instigator is it's fighting with the Melta for Vanguard's pri...
I'm fine with that, the Melta is good but it's not overwhelming to the point where I don't want anything else
barren coral
Melta lets you full heal
primal venture
?
barren coral
Contested Health is bugged rn
The game only checks if you have contested HP and doesn't check the healing you get when you attack with it
So if you deal enough damage in a single hit you can overheal the contested HP
It's dumb
grand lantern
That's probably not gonna last long haha
barren coral
But like I'm the only person talking about it lol
grand lantern
Maybe it has good perks but I'm kinda confused by the bolt carbine for sniper
Since it feels like it benefits very badly from the cloak
primal venture
Contested Health is bugged rn
I'm not that desperate to push difficulty that I'm gonna change weapon over it
Basically
grand lantern
And inimagine the assault getting hyperarmor while charging will be useful
Yeah some weapons (thunder hammer) really need it
Power Fist gets it natively but its hard to make use of without just fucking dying lol
proper cosmos
Yeah
primal venture
Maybe it has good perks but I'm kinda confused by the bolt carbine for sniper
Bolt Carbine feels like it defeats the point of Sniper lol
proper cosmos
I hope fist is [has] good [builds]
grand lantern
My guess is that since you get a lot of recoil control its a CC and better ammo economy weapon
proper cosmos
I guess the carbine is if you wanna break stealth with combat knife?
barren coral
I think the bolt carbine is meant for sections where you expect to just always be in the shit
grand lantern
But like... the BSR and LF are super good and super not weapons other classes can really replicate
grand lantern
I think the bolt carbine is meant for sections where you expect to just always b...
Maybe, I think the Kraken handles a lot of those situations ok
primal venture
I think with Camo Cloak acting as a deaggro tool you should be able to use your big guns wherever, unless it's a really tight snafu
grand lantern
How big is the damage boost from camo cloak?
barren coral
Yeah, most people take the 75% buff
It's only on the first shot
but with the Las Fusil that's all you need
proper cosmos
Anyone have a good repository of the perks and weapon traits out of game?
Searching for one is miserable you just get ai build guide slop
proper cosmos
I think it increases it
grand lantern
Makes sense
clever ember
I was wrong about there being no primary gold! The Iron Warrior color set has it and there is retributior gold too, but it's very dull.
Almost bronze or copper.
barren coral
<@&1281758630688981034> anyone for more ops?
proper cosmos
Oh right. The operations jetpack is so shit compared to the campaign one
grand lantern
Or the MP one
onyx forum
on mission 3 and the pickups on the elevator are STILL bugged
Is that the moving platform where you need to ||protect the chains||?
That one is bugged heavily, you need to complete it one try and it's worth lowering the difficulty. The crates on that segment also don't provide cover and enemies shoot through them in addition to the issues with pickups, weapon spawns, and them just forgetting to give you ammo and weapons.
grand lantern
The PVP jetpack is super good
3 charges, decent recharge time
Unparalleled mobility
onyx forum
I do get they want the Operations jetpack to not break the mostly ground-bound level design but having more uses of it at a shorter cooldown would be great.
Assault gets perks relating to perfect dodges so they basically want to ignore the parry mechanic.
primal venture
Afaik you don’t even get the hover without a perk
bizarre?
south swallow
you can hover im pretty sure? now im doubting myself lol
proper cosmos
I totally understand the cooldown, I just think it doesn't give nearly enough height
south swallow
but i do believe you get a bunch of extra cooldown as you level up
like ability cooldown stuff
the low jump did feel a bit silly
but i get it
grand lantern
you can hover im pretty sure? now im doubting myself lol
I’ve tried it and it just didn’t do anything
grand lantern
but i do believe you get a bunch of extra cooldown as you level up
There’s some sources of it but surprisingly little
proper cosmos
Perks let you get a total refresh on a perfect dodge
grand lantern
I think assault rules in PVP but it’s my least favorite operations class
primal venture
It might be one of those classes that needs deep investment to really click
proper cosmos
I was gonna main it in ops but I miiight move to bulwark
primal venture
Heavy has soooort of the same problem with its alternate weapon choices
But it also has the Heavy Bolter as a really stalwart baseline option
grand lantern
Perks let you get a total refresh on a perfect dodge
Only on jump pack dash perfect dodges
vocal spade
oh lovely quote from a traitor :3
proper cosmos
Yeah, and has a better windows iirc
grand lantern
he was real as fuck for that line tho
The Ultramarines, apparently
proper cosmos
I'm pretty sure it's actually a generic bark for the librarian in dow1
But the campaign lib is a traitor, so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
proper cosmos
I think they're being cute with the attribution
grand lantern
I need to test the hover thing
proper cosmos
Winking at the camera
grand lantern
There’s no perk for it so maybe try r button just wasn’t working
primal venture
same button as sprint for PC
grand lantern
I use the aim key for it haha
grand lantern
I think assault is my fav PvP class
vocal spade
I think they're being cute with the attribution
yeh it think its cute :3
grand lantern
The mobility is great
vocal spade
i should try the PVP sometime
grand lantern
And there’s a fair amount of verticality on the maps to use it
grand lantern
i should try the PVP sometime
It’s a little tacked on feeling but continues the trend of space marine 1’s weirdly unique and compelling PvP gameplay
The TDM mode is kind of butt though - just deathballing
The CSM voice lines also fucking slap
I love the world eater so much
primal venture
The Alpha Legion sniper is the most calm and rational CSM I've ever heard
Straight up chill dude
south swallow
I think assault is my fav PvP class
For me it often feels like tactical just carries me. Though assault has been my highest high, because you have so much positional power
I think the pvp is a little barebones rn but those bones are solid. The maps are generally well designed with multiple angles and verticality
They have something super solid to keep building from
grand lantern
Tactical is super good in pvp
Their ability to check corners and boost damage rules
primal venture
what do people think about Heavy overall?
grand lantern
I like them in PVP but they need buddies
Not that independent
Which isn’t unique - tactical and Bulwark also want buddies
I’m less sold on them in operations but that’s just because they feel so ammo constrained without perks
primal venture
In Ops you are basically mainlining heavy bolter until a certain point
But that's also like, more than good enough a lot of the time? It chews through basically everything
grand lantern
I’ve heard the HPI is good
primal venture
At level 10 you get the multi-melta ammo refund when you kill more than 5 dudes with it
And then it's crazy
grand lantern
Yeah it’s the only weapon which approaches the red barrel damage
Which is a high accolade I think barrel explosions might be the biggest single damage instance in the game haha
Based on how they chunk fexes anyway
primal venture
They do a fucking lot
south swallow
what do people think about Heavy overall?
The meta is still shaking out, but the heavy is a newby grinder imo.
A lot of unwary melee classes expect it to get stunned when they hit by they don't, and the HB is a chainsaw. The heavy is the undisputed master of ranged trades and will outright dare you to try and measure up.
That being said, for all that power, it has powerful vulnerabilities to getting flanked or caught out
south swallow
Ahh my b. For ops so far I see them as crowd cleaners and team supports. A lot of their team abilities rock, and they easily top ranged damage on the score card; but they are not for the faint of heart, you absolutely need to be able to perfect dodge/parry to survive
The HB gets way better as you master it and can steroid its damage, and I like the plasma but it's ammo pool is lacking baseline
The MM is amazing much like the melta on vanguard is, but they have fewer tools to close distance. It's a lot easier to keep yourself safe with it though
If you run plasma or mm you gotta get real comfy rocking and rolling with the bolt pistol for minor engagement
Plasma is real rewarding when you see those piles of like 6-12 warriors
onyx forum
I haven't levelled it much, but Heavy Plasma and Plasma Pistol felt great versus Thousand Sons as well
south swallow
Rn I'm trying to level the hb so that it can be my Swiss army knife
Hoping to just steroid damage and accuracy
I think the ammo count is broadly acceptable
Though really my main is the vanguard atm, love it
onyx forum
I've been splitting my time between Tactical, Vanguard, and Bulwark
Still not great at Bulwark though
south swallow
I'm trying to level the occulus bolt carbine atm despite thinking the melta is just the superior choice atm. I looked down the line and you can get the bolt carbines firepower really really high
onyx forum
The block/parry setup is a bit fiddly
south swallow
That's the issue that's really turned me away from bulwark
The block/ parry thing
I've felt more at home with assault
primal venture
Speaking of which, what do the defense types mean??
I saw the chainsword has like
Block, Balanced, Fencing
south swallow
Block means you can't parry anymore iirc, balanced means you can do both and have a smaller window for parry's and fencing gives you a much larger parry window
(I don't like block, but I guess you prefect dodge more often it works out)
If you*
south swallow
I also saw that with mastery, the chainsword can get more firepower than the hammer and fist; which I thought was crazy
Not there yet, but I love assaults having the running attack boost
Combo'd with the fists running attack
Superman punching everything
tropic widget
There’s a weird charge up build for power fist in there somewhere
proper cosmos
Falcon lunch
Aka voles
wanton grail
Correction: has anyone else experienced the game constantly crashing and just being totally unable to play
tame surge
No, after some initial instability until I updated my graphics driver and had the shaders pre-created, it's been smooth. (Except that one time, where the crash reporter somehow triggered while the game seemed to be running fine, then closed the game upon clicking "don't send". But that was during the intro logos, so whatever.)
copper swallow
Haven't had issues, just took quite long on initial install
tame surge
(weirdly way way smoother than Darktide or HD2)
copper swallow
I'm not playing on a very high end rig since my computer's 4 years old, only performance issue I got was some in-engine cutscenes looking kinda low-poly while playing co-op
And yeah I've crashed less than in Helldivers 2
vocal spade
This morning the servers seemes bit unstable
copper swallow
actually haven't crashed yet but give it time
wanton grail
I'm on a really high end machine but I alt tabbed one and now I can't play the game at all
Before that it ran beautifully
spark tendon
I'm on a really high end machine but I alt tabbed one and now I can't play the g...
Which processor do you have?
proper cosmos
Getting a lotta lag today, anyone else?
wanton grail
Which processor do you have?
Amd Ryzen 7
spark tendon
Amd Ryzen 7
Verified game files and restarted steam?
wanton grail
Verified game files and restarted steam?
Still need to do that actually
brisk notch
I'm far in tje game but i'm already loving it
tame surge
In game its weaker than the bolt rifle but almost has twice the bolts and has ex...
I mostly think it's weird and a bit of a shame how many bolters we got that are barely different from each other.
Did we really need 4 or 5 steps of "this trades accuracy and firepower for RoF"? Bolt carbine, occulus bolt carbine, auto bolt rifle, heavy bolt rifle, bolt rifle.
Leaving out the bolt rifle (because of course the basic allrounder needs to exist), did we really need 4 steps of this? Wouldn't 2 more have been sufficient?
Like with the sniper weapons, where we have bolt sniper and las fusil, plus the stalker as a DMR, and arguably the instigator carbine.
That's good variety, all of these are quite distinct in their applications.
Melta, obviously, that's got a very clear niche. Plasma too.
Marksman bolt carbine... Okay, makes sense once you look at the classes, so you can have a "stalker bolter but for the phobos class" weapon. Plus, it is rather different still.
But from that first set of five, I'm thinking I'd rather have swapped some stuff out or modified the stats somewhere to give a bit of a different vibe.
Maybe instead of the Heavy Bolt Rifle, bring in the Executor Bolt Rifle and have it be a stepping stone in the direction of the stalker - lower RoF but bigger bang.
Give the occulus an IR sight, to reflect all the sensors.
Something, anything, to make them more distinct.
Not that I'm not enjoying the game, to be clear, it's just idle thoughts.
royal heart
Marksman carbine is not a marksman weapon, interestingly
brittle glade
hello
tame surge
Marksman carbine is not a marksman weapon, interestingly
Did I mix the names up? It's the semi-auto carbine isn't it?
It gives phobos a slow but higher damage option, is what I meant.
primal venture
Did I mix the names up? It's the semi-auto carbine isn't it?
It gives phobos a ...
It's actually not available in Operations, Vanguard has the Instigator, Occulus and Melta Rifle
tame surge
Huh
primal venture
Instigator is the closest they get to a precision weapon but it's really good
tame surge
That's a weird choice (Edit: not making Marksman available to them. The instigator is obviously an appropriate choice.)
main plume
so does everyone else have like a weird 2-3minute span where they're stuck on the barge with no ui before loading into an operations mission?
kind of assumed this would be fixed after EA
vestal cedar
Is that the moving platform where you need to ||protect the chains||?
That one i...
Yep
We managed to complete it
But that shit was buggy as fuck
primal venture
so does everyone else have like a weird 2-3minute span where they're stuck on th...
You gotta move into the loading zone where the Thunderhawk was to trigger the loading screen lol
proper cosmos
Evasion+tactical ambush seems like a fun sniper combo
perfect dodges give stealth, melee which breaks stealth deals +100% damage
spark tendon
anyone wanna play?
brisk notch
https://fixupx.com/spectralidax/status/1833946414499725421?s=46
That remind me that in every "The space shark are sacry - 40k lore" video out there. To illustrate tyberow they use a Gura fan art
Litteraly this pic wwith a termy helmet
vestal cedar
Tyberos...
south swallow
tyberos with a trident is an idea
vestal cedar
he's got Hunger and Slake tho, they're cool enough
viral patio
I would kill for a couple more shades of purple in this game
vestal cedar
i would love some more yellows so i can do a better Lamenters cosplay
viral patio
grenades feel a little too good in pvp
viral patio
i would love some more yellows so i can do a better Lamenters cosplay
the first season is all about Ultramarine successors, hopefully we get a similar update but for Blood Angels
royal heart
I reckon after dark angels next season
vestal cedar
would be fun
honestly if we get lamenters at that point and i'm still deep in playing the game, i might just get the season pass
viral patio
I hope we get more customisation for chaos marines, because I'd love to make some Fallen
(beyond just a colour swap)
vestal cedar
yeah
more actual like, armor customization
would be nice
currently it's just like, some basic level up armors for each class and colorswaps for the chapters
brittle glade
give me pot belly death guard.
vestal cedar
i would greatly enjoy a beaky helm
brittle glade
Maleum Caedo cossplay when?
vestal cedar
truly
viral patio
I keep trying to come up with cool colour schemes and ending up with black and gold, or white and gold
barren coral
Scythes of the Emperor?
They got mostly eaten by Tyranids, got a whole bunch of new marines from Cawl, then the last firstborns got killed by a bunch of genestealers protecting Cawl while he was doing stuff.
barren coral
Tbh, common fate for Ultramarine successors
vestal cedar
Lamenters almost met the same fate
barren coral
I mean
thats just Lamenters
common Lamenters L and all that
tho IIRC they finally are off their Crusade
And are starting to replenish
barren coral
Can't be the unluckiest chapter if you are no longer a chapter after all
vestal cedar
truly
royal heart
their unluckiest quality is that they never die
brisk notch
i'm happy to report that my first game on the side of chaos (i played a death guard) was a victory
brisk notch
turn towards my Mortarion Mini "I mean yay and ?"
tropic widget
Keep at it I suppose. You do you boo.
grand lantern
i'm happy to report that my first game on the side of chaos (i played a death gu...
For the dark gods
spark tendon
anyone up for a game?
wary plover
yeah i'd be down
past stone
anyone up for a game?
me
austere aurora
wanton grail
if anyone else is crashing while loading into the game upvote this thing
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/bugs/64-crashing-on-seizure-warning?page=1
vestal cedar
me and my friend have been playing on the hardest difficulty and that urge has been violently beat out of me
we exit every single encounter absolutely fucked up barely alive
stray smelt
You went from lore-accurate space marines to tabletop-accurate space marines
vestal cedar
those nids have fucking hands lemme tell you
we also make extreme use of every fucking checkpoint
more often than not we get absolutely bodied and have to restart
stray smelt
Oh in campaign, I thought you were complete maniacs and doing top-level operations
vestal cedar
nah
we might tho
my friends are all difficulty nuts so we usually go into games on whatever the highest reasonable difficulty is
we do skip out on like, ironman difficulty stuff where the run ends if you die, because honestly it's not particularly enjoyable usually
but other than that we usually full send it
south swallow
i think with operations, itd be a deathwish to go into top difficulty with unupgraded gear
and also just not that fun, because everything would probably be a massive bullet sponge
barren coral
Oh in campaign, I thought you were complete maniacs and doing top-level operatio...
Ruthless is pretty fun and not bad once you have the gear and perks
Because higher difficulty is absolutely a stat check
You just
flat out don't have the tools without those upgrades tho
And have zdps
vestal cedar
interesting
barren coral
Honestly, idk if there are any enemy health increases
(they absolutely have damage increase ofc)
It's just
there is a very real stat check when you have to deal with 10 rubric marines v 3
south swallow
yeah i just figure that with the damage values changing from like 2 to 13 over the course of a weapons experience/upgrade track
there is a reason it does that
on the difficulty curve
beyond just making you absolutely destroy literally everything
the difficulty level probably accounts for you having a bolter that is shooting sniper rifle level rounds per shot on full auto
at higher difficulties
if it didn't, i think higher difficulties would be kind of a joke
grand lantern
Honestly, idk if there are any enemy health increases
It’s hard for me to tell but yeah
You need to kill fast because the spawns go sicko mode
grand lantern
lmao
low hearth
it was extremely good
primal venture
||Brother Dreadnought|| deserved more screen time, it was fantastic
barren coral
<@&1281758630688981034> Anyone for ops?
grand lantern
Yeah just let me get some water and boot the game up
barren coral
yeah fair enough doing same
tropic widget
I can also join to round things out.
barren coral
PT9XY
spark tendon
Anyone up for marinating in space?
spark tendon
Anyone up for marinating in space?
<@&1281758630688981034>
clever ember
grand lantern
oh fuck yes this game was incomplete until I learned I could play the Skull Bearers!
clever ember
Yeah, you can color each limb, each pauldron, the helmet, the backpack, and chest diffrent colors.
verbal mortarBOT
Sadly you can't make just the hand red, but you can make the left arm red?
tropic widget
Big red power fist is very doable is all I want to point out.
turbid nebula
Sadly, I'm not really a fan of the Power Fist
spark tendon
game keep crashing on startup for me, anyone encountered a fix?
primal venture
Did you verify your files?
Also, to the folks playing Assault like @proper cosmos I know you were having issues with the class and honestly, as much as I hate to say it, the issue may be with the Power Fist
I'm using the THammer rn and it just pulverizes shit left and right
The basic light attack covers more than a 180 degree angle around you, its crazy
proper cosmos
Oh the hammer rules
THe problem is the class perks, separate from the weapons
the powerfist does seem real anemic
spark tendon
Did you verify your files?
yep
spark tendon
It isnt
south swallow
Yall talking in operations? As far as I can tell, the fist is fine. Just a change in playstyle a bit
You wanna be doing a lot of running attacks
I do love me the chainsword though
Ironically I find the hammer a little slow, such that I take a lot of extra hits that I don't want to be. That being said, all three rock
I'm mostly dedicated to the CS cause I can see it's damage at relic level is bonkers
primal venture
I feel like those numbers aren't reaaaaally representative of the final damage
viral patio
assault really feels neutered in Operations, compared to the other modes
love it in PVP, but I'd rather play anything else in Operations
primal venture
I really don't agree
stray smelt
What's wrong with the Assault?
viral patio
the jump pack is worse
that's not a point of opinion, that's a fact. You don't go as high, you don't go as far, you don't stay up as long and you can't get more air-time with shift. it seems knee capped to prevent boundary breaks
main plume
yeah it's weird that the pvp jump pack gives you the full suite of abilities but the operations one is so limited
primal venture
If Ops Assault had the capabilities of Assault in other modes it'd just be the best class
Period
viral patio
the reason it feels worse don't actually matter to me
I like the other classes plenty, I'll just only use Assault in PVP
but it feels like a shame I don't like my favourite class in coop
main plume
If Ops Assault had the capabilities of Assault in other modes it'd just be the b...
eh, there are ways to balance it imo. give it a longer cooldown / shorter cap on the uses maybe
primal venture
then it just feels worse in the other direction
proper cosmos
The problem is that the ops assault pack barely gets you over your base height
Like if it had the full story mode power, yes, that would be busto
But it has fewer charges, longer cooldown, and doesn't go even half as high
primal venture
I dont't think I'm gonna convince people of my view, so fair enough
proper cosmos
Like if it went a few meters higher, so it doesn't get caught on goddamn everything, that'd be fine
Like
That? That is too high to jump up
viral patio
that's why I think it was nerfed specifically to prevent sequence breaks
grand lantern
I feel like those numbers aren't reaaaaally representative of the final damage
I think those numbers are made up or something, same as the “10% more damage” stuff
proper cosmos
That isn't a sequence break!
grand lantern
That shit feels way bigger than 10%
proper cosmos
There are stairs right next to it!
grand lantern
I also wish Vanguard got wall sticks in operations
I miss my rollout flanks from MP
viral patio
that's not what I mean, I mean that if it could jump that high then they might be able to skip bits of some levels
but still, I'd prefer invisible walls to this
primal venture
I think those numbers are made up or something, same as the “10% more damage” st...
Yeah thats my exact feeling
proper cosmos
Oh, therre are unvisible walls
You can't jump over certain gaps
or down ledges you can just step off
viral patio
interesting fact I've noticed actually, is if your landing icon isn't over certain areas, you can't jump at all
like there are jumps across gaps you can make, but not if your "cursor" is somewhere you're not supposed to be
the three platforms at the oil refinery at the end of the first operation
you can jump from one to the other, but only if you point your cursor to it
proper cosmos
And god forbid the cursor play nice
vestal cedar
i have A-ranked the trials for all of the classes now and bought some more color stuff
my lamenters cosplay is now a little bit better
game still crashes every time i try to quit out
grand lantern
Scared that space marine 2’s large popularity is gonna lead to a new DoW like Warhammer fandom cohort of people who think the Ultramarines are cool
vestal cedar
DoW?
grand lantern
Dawn of War
spark tendon
Dawn of War
vestal cedar
ah
spark tendon
game still crashes every time i try to quit out
It crashes everytime I try to launch it so we balance it out
vestal cedar
the Ultramarines are a bunch of squares and their dad is to quote Konrad Curze, an "avenging bean counter"
and yes that is a direct quote from Curze
spark tendon
Wasn't conrad a traitor iirc?
grand lantern
the Ultramarines are a bunch of squares and their dad is to quote Konrad Curze, ...
🥰 whoa fr
vestal cedar
Wasn't conrad a traitor iirc?
yeah
he's the dad of the guys who like to skin civilians for fun
spark tendon
Also yes ultrasmurfs are squares
vestal cedar
iirc Konrad had the funny future sight and it drove him batshit insane
pretty sure he's dead if i'm not remembering things wrong
a Callidus Assasin executed him
grand lantern
He’s one of the “humongous asshole” traitor primarchs not a “tragic figure” traitor primarch yeah
vestal cedar
debatable
grand lantern
He’s one of the most definitively dead primarchs
vestal cedar
he kinda was completely fucked by his future sight
since he could only see negative outcomes or some shit iirc
but he is also a tremendous fucking arsehole yeah
reminder that his kids are the ones who skin people for fun, and that wasn't a falling to chaos thing either
south swallow
I feel like ultramarines are cool though. I'm a space wolf fan, but ultramarines aren't lame
primal venture
yeah kurze just impales a bunch of people on spikes
vestal cedar
i'm a Lamenters fangirl so you won't catch me rooting for the Ultrasmurfs
south swallow
Eh I'm not of the mind that I have to dislike other chapters to like the one I like most
vestal cedar
though now that Robot Gorillaman has Ultradepression™️ he is slightly more interesting
vestal cedar
Eh I'm not of the mind that I have to dislike other chapters to like the one I l...
mostly think they are kinda boring cause they are always the "best of the best of the best" and just win everything
south swallow
I think a lot of the newer people entering into warhammer lore also don't have to live through the Matt ward Era of space marines and ultra marine superiority
vestal cedar
my boys are literally gods least favourite loser squad who get completely fucked up any time they do anything as well
south swallow
See they haven't really been matt ward ultra marines in forever
But that rep sticks with em
primal venture
yeah I'm not exactly going to bat for the UM here but they're not the writer's specialest favourite boys forever now
and haven't been for quite some time
let's not pretend they are
grand lantern
I actually do like the Ultramarines a lot
south swallow
Like Calgars modern claim to fame is getting his own ass entirely kicked to win major battles
primal venture
even in this game the 2nd Company takes severe casualties by any standard
south swallow
He doesn't even have arms or legs these days
grand lantern
Which ironically makes them being the posterboys a little sad for me since it means they get less of that unique ultramarine character since they are just “standard template space marine”
primal venture
yeah I want more of the cool bits to shine through
waiter, more roman aesthetic please
south swallow
(I will stand by my thought that Imperial Fists make better "standard" marines even though Ultramarines invented the codex Astartes)
Imperial "gosh I love bolters" Fists
vestal cedar
them being the standard marines would make the Black Templars a million fucking times funnier
grand lantern
waiter, more roman aesthetic please
More axes!
primal venture
yes please
grand lantern
(I will stand by my thought that Imperial Fists make better "standard" marines e...
The problem with standard IFs is that that will trick new players into trying to paint yellow
:p
vestal cedar
lmao
primal venture
pain
vestal cedar
gods i really want to have a few Lamenters
but they also have one of the fucking worst paint schemes ever
south swallow
Like my favorite chapter is the space wolves. A. Because they are so incredibly silly in both concept and execution and B. The silliness meter wraps back around to cool semi frequently;
But I'm also a big fan of the White Scars, the Iron Hands, the Ultramarines, the Rav- pretty much all of em. I'm not that interested in the dark angels though
past stone
The problem with standard IFs is that that will trick new players into trying to...
White scars are out for the same reasons
south swallow
Imagine if putting on the white scars scheme made you minutely faster
primal venture
Loyalist wise, Lamenters are peak
viral patio
I love the Dark Angels. The cool knight aesthetic, the ridiculous catholic guilt that really defines them, the "we're totally not a legion" thing where they and their successors have a single organisation, I dig the robes too
vestal cedar
Loyalist wise, Lamenters are peak
💯
past stone
I love the Dark Angels. The cool knight aesthetic, the ridiculous catholic guilt...
robes over armor is just an awesome aesthetic
how i wish i could change the fabric color in the game...
primal venture
Traitor wise, Iron Warriors easily top my list
proper cosmos
Blood Angels
Love the intersection of Angelic, noble artists with literally bloodthirsty maniacs
Angels and Vampires: Both Bishonen™️
primal venture
I'd like them more if the colour scheme weren't All Hyper Aggressive Red
grand lantern
There is campaign camo for that at least
vestal cedar
another awful color scheme is the Marines Malevolent
hazard warning sign looking mfer
proper cosmos
Tbf I think the iron warriors have the hazard tape trademark
vestal cedar
that is true
primal venture
They do and it's peak
proper cosmos
But no those mm are pretty ugly
primal venture
Not good
viral patio
I'd like them more if the colour scheme weren't All Hyper Aggressive Red
I tend to give blood angels a gold trim, rather than the default red
it looks a lot better
proper cosmos
Also boy do some ops suck with melee heavy comps
Assault/bul/vang vs ||helldrake|| seems not great
Heavy bolt pistol is good, but not that good
vestal cedar
My fav secondary so far is Plasma Pistol
viral patio
love the plasma pistol/power sword combo for the bulwark
vestal cedar
I'm a big fan of the chainsword due to the stomp it has
viral patio
I do like how the heavy attacks for the chainsword are all just space marine brute force
no fancy sword stuff, just space marine to the face
south swallow
Honestly I think my distaste for DA comes from them getting like... a gamut of tactical styles in their tabletop offerings in lieu of other chapters begging for some love, moreso than disliking the DA directly
Woops
Honestly something that trips me up with the power sword is that it can't do a non combo heavy to get an easy gun strike
viral patio
yeah, that's really a problem with like, the big few chapters of space marines
south swallow
The chainsword and the knife both can like, snack a gaunt off the cuff and get a cheeky pistol shot in
viral patio
but then again, that's a problem with space marines/the imperium in general, in that they get more stuff than other factions
south swallow
Easy armor segments
viral patio
I've not really tried the knife yet, how is it?
south swallow
It lacks crowd clear, but it's extremely fast; once you get some mastery with it, it can be wicked
I'm maining it on my vanguard
Cause it combos really nice with the increased perfect parry window
its biggest advantages are how fast its heavies can come out and its general speed
but it has no flashy area clearers really
so you gotta be careful about getting surrounded
my main use for it is i can hunt down warriors and other high health specials quickly using my zip line and a barrage of lights and heavies
viral patio
I was thinking of doing some ops as Vanguard, so I'll give it a try
vestal cedar
for anyone who has played assault
can i remove the like
jump pack marker thing that's active whenever i'm just running around
cause if i can't remove it i'm going to have to change class tbh
it's really fucking annoying
vestal cedar
well
guess i'm not playing Assault
i don't even know why it's constantly active, it doesn't make any sense
grand lantern
You can get a lot of the assault experience without that with Bulwark at least
vestal cedar
it just annoys the fuck out of me to have a glowing orange marker constantly blinking on the ground wherever i look
grand lantern
Yeah that’s valid it’s pretty intrusive
vestal cedar
i would play vanguard but the armor having that ab thing instead of having proper armor
also kinda just annoys me
modest oxide
That's how I feel about Sniper's lack of helmet
vestal cedar
i got the helmet from the black templars tree specifically to not have any class with no proper helmet
modest oxide
At least give option
grand lantern
I will say that Vanguard is fucking fun
vestal cedar
gonna play bulwark
grand lantern
Probably my favorite class
vestal cedar
vanguard doesn't have the funny plasma pistol
modest oxide
Vanguard with a Melta is delightful
vestal cedar
i will probably try vanguard even if it looks dumb
modest oxide
Kind of weird only Jetpack gets heavy bolt pistol
grand lantern
vanguard doesn't have the funny plasma pistol
It is a real draw
vestal cedar
why does the tactical class not get plasma
modest oxide
Vanguard keeps tricking me into thinking it moves faster because it has a different walking cadence
grand lantern
why does the tactical class not get plasma
Or sniper with no heavy bolt pistol
royal heart
I love the phobos abs
vestal cedar
yeah
royal heart
Its the best part
vestal cedar
the abs are just dumb, why would you have less armor
royal heart
Presumably it's so the reivers can do callisthenics
vestal cedar
it's the same reason i get annoyed whenever they take off their helmets in the cutscenes
royal heart
Idk
modest oxide
I assume for the armor it's a mobility thing
vestal cedar
probably
modest oxide
Hard to do the flying kick pose with big meaty torso
royal heart
Yeah I dont think the regular space marines are very good at bending
grand lantern
Yeah Phobos is the cut down quiet “stealth armor”
royal heart
Phobos probably go prone more often
The abdomen is the least bad part except for the limbs to get shot so if you wanted to take out any armour on the torso
It'd be there
Irl its actually very bad to have stomach acid leak out but for a space marine their healing factor is wild so it's probably not that bad
modest oxide
Makes getting the Armor Boosts feel great
Honestly just love the armor system in general, exactly enough Doom (2016) juice
and Gun Strike not taking a bullet, blessed
south swallow
Tbf space marines in the actual lore have an issue of not putting on helmets
vestal cedar
ok bulwark is pretty fun
haven't done all too much with the shield but having a plasma pistol and a melee is good enough for me
gonna try vanguard
thankfully i have the Black Templars helmet unlocked
cause i really don't like the weird skull helmet that the Vanguard has
and i like the open top helmets it gets for its upgrades even less
south swallow
I do wish the vanguard got a heavy bolt pistol, but they do get a pair of actual bolters while the assault has only the pistol
I'm in luck, I'm a big fan of the reiver helmet
vestal cedar
any open helmet or no helmet aesthetic is instantly lost to me
south swallow
And it's the only game one can play where reivers are good xD
vestal cedar
i don't like it on principle
south swallow
(Honestly giving tabletop reivers a melta rifle would be huge. They still wouldn't be great, but it'd be something)
tame surge
I'm struggling to get gunstrikes with anything but the chainsword, tbh. Well, except for perfect dodges and counters, but provoking them with the melee weapons seems really hard and inconsistent.
vestal cedar
my friend seems to have taken a shine to the Charcharodons Astra
south swallow
So, on basic enemies, the chainsword and the knife can use a heavy from neutral to guarantee a gun strike
On heavier enemies you generally need paries or dodges
I notice on the power fist your running attack can semi reliably trigger a gun strike opportunity on basic guys
And I think the hammer is the same
I struggle most with the power sword as far as setting up for easy gun strikes
I think because it has no neutral heavy
royal heart
any open helmet or no helmet aesthetic is instantly lost to me
but the reiver has a helmet...
but yea I love helmets more than no helmets
no helmet can be good, but helmet is peak
spark tendon
<@&1281758630688981034> its time
vestal cedar
Melta Rifle is SUCH a good gun
grand lantern
Yeah!
wary plover
man i wish you could change the cloth color on the bulwark
my world eaters guy would look so sick with a red tabard
south swallow
I have made my tactical a crimson fist and my vanguard a wolf Spear
Made my heavy a red scorpion
wary plover
all my dudes are world eaters lmao
stray smelt
So, I got forced to play a Tactical marine due to being dropped into a match with a Heavy and honestly
I really like the class and the weapon options, which surprises me because no one else seems to play it
tropic widget
You’re saying they’re perfectly average just like in the tabletop?
stray smelt
Well on tabletop they're not a thing anymore
wary plover
are the servers fucked for anyone else rn?
grand lantern
Tactical fucks
I expected them to be kind of bland but the wide weapon selection and flexible options are just like “yeah I like to play space marine”
south swallow
You’re saying they’re perfectly average just like in the tabletop?
hah, nay, i am saying they are exceptional in all respects!
theyre the most "play how you want when you want" class imo
verbal mortarBOT
I think everyone goes "Oh, they are default. I not wanna play default. >:(" which er, admittedly I fell into but I guess I'll have to give them a review.
south swallow
they're an everest instead of "normal guy" to put it in lancer terms
stray smelt
I expected them to be kind of bland but the wide weapon selection and flexible o...
I do wish they got like
One(1) more pistol option, and also the combat knife purely for lore accuracy
But other than that, I like it
verbal mortarBOT
Honestly, they seem a bit more like Tactical Marine Sgts. than Tactical Marine Brothers, if that makes sense?
stray smelt
With the obligatory chainswords, yeah, I can see that
silent mist
I expected them to be kind of bland but the wide weapon selection and flexible o...
The auspex scan is also such a damage boost
And you can also do things like "yeah this one guy is taking quad damage" w/ perks
vestal cedar
gods
this shit is fucking crazy
got to the ||burial world mission with all the chaos shit, fucking HELL||
i think this is the final mission of the game
but i'm not going to be finishing it until tomorrow
silent mist
Yeah the final mission is a long one
kindred zinc
Long is an understatement
vestal cedar
we had to just get to a checkpoint and stop cause my friend needed to go to bed
vestal cedar
we got to the point where ||We need to take out the last three pillars to stop the Aurora device||
proper cosmos
further jet pack griping
The helipads at the end of Inferno?
gaunts are allowoed to jump between them
the jump pack isn't
grand lantern
wait what?
I can grapple across those gaps with Vanguard lol
I just need a victim
primal venture
The helipads at the end of Inferno?
That's untrue, I've done it
proper cosmos
Really? Maybe I'm aiming/spacing wrong
primal venture
You need to pivot your aim up to get the maximum distance, but it's definitely possible
proper cosmos
also the fact that you can parry out of attacks but not dodge I think makes fenncing weapons much better than trying to dodge
primal venture
I think for slower weapons, absolutely
proper cosmos
Which is a bit awkward, considering that a lot of the assaults weapons are very slow, and it has a lot of dodge related perks
Hang on
Does any melee weapon have a higher speed rating higher than 7+?
kindred zinc
Unlocked relic weapons for the plasma cannon and plasma pistol tonight
vocal spade
why is Heavy Bolt Gun so weak
did they mix up stats for basic bolter and Heavy Bolt Gun??
primal venture
It's not weak at all
vocal spade
it feels very weak against warriors and Rubicae
primal venture
How are you using it? If you slam full auto against everything you're not gonna get anywhere
Go for headshots and fire in 5-6 round bursts
vocal spade
yeh but compared to regular bolter
primal venture
Compared to the regular bolter it does the job very respectably, and it does far better against hordes
Throttling the rate of fire to maximize accuracy and DPS takes practice, but it's very powerful when you do
vocal spade
yeah like its good against gaunts and tzargors but it feels so much weaker against mediums
so im like misunderstanding the heavy part of the bolt gun there
primal venture
Like I said, headshots, burst fire, it dings down mediums very competitively
Especially Rubricae, who seem to have a really high headshot mutiplier
vocal spade
yeah thats what im doing
proper cosmos
Controlled bursts at the head, at medium ranges, using zoomed in heavy stance
But also, deleting majoris isn't really the boltgun's job so much
vestal cedar
Deleting Majoris is the job of the Plasma Pistol
vocal spade
yeah i just mean what does heavy bolt gun do that regular boltgun doesn't do better?
vestal cedar
Plasma, melta, chainsaw
primal venture
It doesn't need to reload, it has far better RoF, it has better damage
vocal spade
oh right magasine size
primal venture
It even has enemy pen with a perk
proper cosmos
Also judging just off base weapon stats without considering perks and weapon traits is going to be a limited perspective
vocal spade
oh i don't mean stats
it takes 15-20 headshots with relic heavy boltgun to kill rubric marine on subtancial difficulty from what i counted
i haven leveled regular boltgun but from what i been told its on same tier around 6-10 headshots which is much more manageable
primal venture
Right, and the regular bolt rifle has, baseline, a third of the ammo with a much slower fire rate and reloads
vocal spade
tbh i should prolly run Stalker boltgun on higher difficulties
primal venture
wait do you mean the heavy bolter??
or the heavy bolt rifle
that the tactical has
vocal spade
Heavy Bolt Rifle
primal venture
im not gonna blame you for that mistake but do try and make it more clear next time
because i had assumed you meant heavy bolter the entire time
vocal spade
i have not called it heavy bolter once
primal venture
it's not hard to see why I might confuse "heavy boltgun" and "heavy bolter" though
primal venture
in that case - yes the heavy bolt rifle doesn't seem great
its all good
miscommunication
vocal spade
heavy bolter on heavy seems pretty neat tho Multimelta is just better for hordes, especially with the ammo refund perk
not played much of it tho
vestal cedar
Melta Rifle is my fav primary so far
proper cosmos
Yeah melta rifle seems nutso
primal venture
It's pretty whacky
vestal cedar
Melta Rifle+Plasma Pistol+Chainsword is my god combo
Plasma Pistol is so fucking cracked against bosses
literally just melts when you do charged shots
for a lot of the campaign bosses i was just hugging the ammo box while aiming down sights with my charged plasma pistol
primal venture
It's no heavy bolter but its nasty
vestal cedar
i can't aim for shit so i don't really like using the bolters that much, funnier to go in with the melta and chainsword and pick off majoris with the plasma when possible
the one trial where you have to do 5 headshots was the bane of my existence for a minute
vocal spade
melta rifle on vanguard is very funny
vestal cedar
i'm using it on vanguard actually
vocal spade
yee :3
vestal cedar
i think the funniest thing about my Vanguard lamenters cosplay is that it's covered in Black Templars and Imperial Fist regalia
vocal spade
trying to custom paint sets is bit of a hurdle with how weird the unlocks are
vestal cedar
I think it's still obvious it's a Lamenter and not an Imperial Fist
At least, i hope so
vocal spade
like generic company designators are mostly under Blood Ravens heraldry
vestal cedar
It's weird yeah
The Deathwatch parts are just under random chapters
There also doesn't seem to be deathwatch parts for both arms and legs which is strange imo
vestal cedar
Bruh
brisk notch
I kinda like the combat knife
vestal cedar
i'm a chainsword kinda gal myself
i need the melee to pick up the slack against majoris and minoris whenever i'm low on ammo or need to reload and such
chainsword is good enough against crowds and single targets
proper cosmos
Yeah, chainsword I think is actually really good
vestal cedar
the 3 hit then stomp combo is god tier for dealing with minoris nids
vocal spade
chainsword is comfy as its same move set as in original
3 hit stomp can pretty reliably deal with smal to mid sized hordes
primal venture
Chainsword is very versatile
I imagine the double stomp + the +50% radius perk will be hilariously good
vestal cedar
yeah probably gonna go crazy
vocal spade
knife is great at fighting single mediums, but unfortunately they tend to have smoll guys with them so the chain sword stomp is kinda handy at making room
proper cosmos
I guess against chaos you get less density
But then against chaos you don't get the synaptic shock
The weapon silos are weird to me
Powerfist being a clear weapon I'd just weird to me
And it really just feels like the bad thunder fist, being that they're both slow crowd control weapons with charge up play
Exelcept that the fist just had less reach
And neither generate many gunstrikeable staggers ime
Going chainsword I feel like I get more opportunities to get armor back with gunstrijes
Honestly I think Vanguard might be the class for me over assault
vocal spade
assault in PvE is kinda dissapointing
vestal cedar
Assault is fun but unplayable for me
The little orange targeting thing on the ground that is active constantly when you play assault annoys me too much
vocal spade
apart from that one armor tick vanguard just seems much better in almost every regard
primal venture
Hard disagree with that
grand lantern
The heavy bolt rifle’s hat is I think that it remains very controllable in long bursts
So you can actually rip through hordes pretty well like a baby heavy bolter
But I think it’s kind of a small niche because tac marine is not usually a dedicated horde control team member
stray smelt
I mean, I kind of enjoy it?
But admittedly that's because I usually play heavy bolter, well, Heavy.
I'm wondering what to swap it out for
Is the El Generico Bolt Rifle good?
Grenade launcher notwithstanding?
grand lantern
It struggles with groups because of poor rof but it’s solid
grand lantern
I mean, I kind of enjoy it?
But admittedly that's because I usually play heavy b...
Oh yeah it’s not weak it’s just a role I think tactical is often not the one filling
south swallow
Yeah if you check the stats, hbr has less firepower, more penetration, almost twice as much ammo in the mag. When using it you also notice it's not got a much higher rate of fire, meaning you can sustain bursts and stay in the fight for longer.
But it IS weaker that the basic bolt rifle on a per shot basis
It differs from the auto bolter in that the auto is about getting more shots burped out faster, and it is also weaker than the bolt rifle in terms of firepower
Incidentally I think I'm not a big fan of the auto or the carbine
grand lantern
Which carbine? There’s like 4
HBR also resists bloom better than pretty much any other gun which is nice
south swallow
The one that's just called the carbine xD with the foregrip
The occulus is not my favorite necessarily either, but the basic carbine really feels like pissing in the wind or running around with a super soaker
grand lantern
I only used it once but it was knocking warriors into execute state pretty fast at short range
spark tendon
game anyone?
wanton grail
Really hope an update comes out soon so I can play
granite zinc
Heya, got the game!
Is the season pass worth it?
Kinda sad the color purple is behind the season pass, so I can't sons of the phoenix
spark tendon
Heya, got the game!
Is the season pass worth it?
I got it myself but i have plenty of disposable income.
btw anyone wanna play some ops?
vestal cedar
i kinda want to get the season pass but i think i'll sit on it for a bit
see what happens in later seasons
granite zinc
I need to level up some first, i just have a heavy on lv2
vestal cedar
i want to play the game more first
see how long i'm going to play it
40 bucks is
a LOT imo for just cosmetics
if you got the gold edition and payed basically only 30 extra that's probably more palateable
spark tendon
I need to level up some first, i just have a heavy on lv2
we can do low level stuff
granite zinc
Sounds good!
My code is:
KA6EY
south swallow
id say put some hours int othe game before getting a season pass
an easy way to look at it is whatever your hourly rate is, put enough hours into the game that you could pay for the season pass before considering buying it
grand lantern
The season pass is pretty much just drip
So its kinda on how cool you think specific kinds of space marines are
stray smelt
Also we don't know what will be in the season pass, and neither do the developers yet
grand lantern
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