Elden Ring (DLC hype room)

[frozen olive]

Shadow of the Erdtree is sitting at mixed atm on steam

[mellow silo]

Still want to be able to be summoned by 150 players

[mellow silo]

Probably just salty gamers tbh

[frozen olive]

i'm going to be pumping up my stats as far as i feel like it

which will be

very high probably

[dusty kraken]

...I decided to play for a few minutes on my lunch break (yay working from home) and got invaded by a guy who ran up to me, ||drank tholiers concoction|| and...that was the invasion.

[vivid spire]

HAHHAHA

[frozen olive]

just cause i need more stats

[tranquil copper]

lmao

[frozen olive]

incredible

[mellow silo]

Honestly I'm at a point where I'm just good, stats wise

[frozen olive]

i just want more of everything i have

[mellow silo]

60 VIG, 60 STR, 40FTH, solid other stats

[frozen olive]

to make it easier

a little bit more vigor and some more faith

[atomic jetty]

king shit

[mellow silo]

I've even invested Mind for godsake

[frozen olive]

i desperately need more mind and endurance

spamming spells constantly and they are eating my stamina and fp like nobodies business

[mellow silo]

24 Mind, 25 Endurance baby

[frail ferry]

i just got enough to summon a pricey spirit ash

[junior spade]

im at 60 endurance cuz i fuckin need my shield to Work

[mellow silo]

Although I'm not much of a caster

[frozen olive]

holy hell

[frail ferry]

behold

[junior spade]

oh im wearing that too

im at 140 equip load max

[frail ferry]

wtf are you wearing

bullgoat?

[mellow silo]

insert r/anarchychess meme

[twilit path]

yehhhh boiiiii endurance mains unite

[frozen olive]

bro is carrying the entire inventory at once wtf

[junior spade]

solitude set + big ass shield + solitude greatsword

[frozen olive]

damn

[junior spade]

its Ole Reliable, its the only way ive been able to get to phase 2 of (final boss here)

im legit just tanking him with the biggest shield i could get

[frozen olive]

i've gotten there with just summons

really

[frail ferry]

man im just rocking with the wolf shield and the darksteel hammer

and crucible armor

[junior spade]

yeah im tanking FOR them

[frozen olive]

getting absolutely fucked though

and my sorc shit does

basically no damage

[frail ferry]

i mean imagine him to have good magic resist

[junior spade]

even just tanking for my mimic tear has been working for phase 1

[frozen olive]

like i'm spamming ||Knights lightning spear|| with the ||flower hammer lightning debuff|| and it's doing NOTHING

boss is just built like a brick shit house and eats all of my ||lightning magic||

[frail ferry]

holy seems to do pretty good

[frozen olive]

really now?

[frail ferry]

at least in the first phase

[frozen olive]

i don't even know if i have any good holy spells

[frail ferry]

havent survived long enough to check second phase

[frozen olive]

fair

honestly

[paper badge]

can I summon you with luna and then if we win I can help you beat it

[frozen olive]

tried a good bit of destined death but the results were middling

[frozen olive]

not online atm but if you're playing when i am sure

[frail ferry]

well the nuclear option is always there

respec to bleed

[tranquil copper]

he doesn't bleed well

frost works decently

bleed does not

it technically procs

[frail ferry]

frost?

[tranquil copper]

but like

[frozen olive]

time for cold

[tranquil copper]

yeah

[frozen olive]

gods my fucking

[frail ferry]

pog

break out the ice lightning

[frozen olive]

my main character is a Carian frost sorcerer 😭

[frail ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-you-could-not-live-with-your-own-failure-cant-move-on-gif-17833087

[frozen olive]

my DLC character is a fucking pyromancer

i am in fucking shambles

[tranquil copper]

also @paper badge going to fuck radahn up atm, will be in dlc shortly, few more minutes after for me to get to final thing

I have a very good idea of what I need to do to get there quick

I'm talking base game

[frail ferry]

ah

[tranquil copper]

currently have to re-unlock the dlc again because I started ng+1

[frail ferry]

well how the tables have turned

[atomic jetty]

yeah dlc reqs are not spoilers, is all good

[real shadow]

Sure love spending 80% of the fight doing nothing.

[tranquil copper]

hoping I dont have to try figuring out where the radahn festival flag is

[frail ferry]

||does she know chat||

[junior spade]

i think my current plan is to just find more scadutree blessings

[tranquil copper]

because I do not want to go rooting aroud for flags rn

[frozen olive]

same

[junior spade]

im scadutree level 16, not sure what the cap is

[dusty kraken]

I've been using || Milady with Blood Tax and the Solitude Set|| minus the helmet, where I instead where the altered commoner's circlet. That's done well for me so far.

[frozen olive]

i need to power level and get scadutree blessed

[tranquil copper]

20

I rec 18 for final boss

[atomic jetty]

i cheated in all the base game graces and teleported to the castle courtyard, and it just gave me the festival

[paper badge]

I am at level 20 and it is still beating my ass

[frozen olive]

getting utterly demolished by the final boss

[paper badge]

you need every scrap you can wring out

[tranquil copper]

I'd prefer not to do that is the main thing

[frozen olive]

this boss is super hard

[paper badge]

level 20 scadu that is

[tranquil copper]

I can live with mohg and radahn being dead but some of those graces have flags tied to them

[atomic jetty]

aaaah

[tranquil copper]

lmao the crucible knight and leonine misbegotten are in here

[atomic jetty]

could try using coordinate teleports??

[tranquil copper]

im not supposed to be in here before they're awake

[junior spade]

what level does revered spirit ash max at

[real shadow]

Its SUPER fun getting grabbed and dying first thing, seriously fuck this fight

[tranquil copper]

radahn isnt there if the festival flag isn't up

[atomic jetty]

[tranquil copper]

hence me not wanting to root for flags 😔

[junior spade]

damn slim are you getting one shot?

[real shadow]

Half my deaths are him grabbing me.

[frozen olive]

what fight?

[real shadow]

Messmer.

[frozen olive]

ah

[real shadow]

He does like 90% of my health with that grab so if I'm even a little low on health, forget it, retry.

[frozen olive]

i've literally never had him do anything but ||become a missile|| for the first attack

[paper badge]

I straight up cannot dodge like 75% of what the final boss is doing without bloodhound step

[real shadow]

Oh that's always his first thing, it's the second that can lead to me becoming kebab.

[paper badge]

so I've given up on milady

slapped bloodhoun on beast claws

[frozen olive]

i always summon Dung Eater

[paper badge]

I'm not bothering with melee

[frozen olive]

Dung Eaters aggro game is peak

[mellow silo]

That grab I've found is really easy to avoid tbh

[golden pond]

Helphen's Steeple and Zamor Ice Storm 🙏

[junior spade]

something that helped me with every boss was the flask tear that gives you 1 free hit

[mellow silo]

You just roll away and he misses, and it's ridiculously telegraphed

[frozen olive]

Dung Eater does not care at all he will pull full boss aggro immediately and just send it

[mellow silo]

The real killer is the flame throw into spear into spin combo

[vivid spire]

Hey wait

[frozen olive]

yeah the bosses have a lot of insane combo's

[mellow silo]

Or the one where he just goes nuts and starts doing quadruple backflips

[frozen olive]

i could not have gotten anywhere without summons

[vivid spire]

Does rhe hippo drop five fragments

Or just one

[mellow silo]

2

[frozen olive]

which is different from base game

i beat Malenia solo with a sword and the DLC bosses are just different

[paper badge]

my current stat lineup, aimed the camera out into the open sky to avoid any environmental spoilers

[golden pond]

Hoping I don't have to change much from mine

[paper badge]

you will

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946027628589113344/1254573781691924490/unnamed.webp?ex=6679fc62&is=6678aae2&hm=5463fb943477327d278c81dd36e58da4b533d7fcaa1227919338ce1357b16e59&=&format=webp

[golden pond]

Just need to get to ||Rellana, demolish her brutally then I can have my silly moons x2||

[paper badge]

it's straight up this

[junior spade]

i know ive respecced a few times now

[golden pond]

Nah, I'm built diffy

[frozen olive]

i have not respecced at all for the entire dlc

[atomic jetty]

can confirm

[tranquil copper]

aight fuckit

[frail ferry]

ive gotten so far with one build if i respec i lose

[tranquil copper]

I lose, I have to unlock all graces

[atomic jetty]

make a copy of the save maybe?

[golden pond]

Battlemage Hugues is gonna slap 🙏

[tranquil copper]

already did before doing mohg

was just hoping to avoid having to do too many potentially bricky things

[atomic jetty]

ah, understandable

[frozen olive]

i'm at the final boss and i may have to respec here

but i will try everything else first

[dusty kraken]

Ironically I went the other way with the DLC. As I sorta went 'Ah fuck, I need to really lock in and focus' instead of 'Eh, I can fuck up a bit and not worry too much about failing' XD

[vivid spire]

It dropped one for me

I mean the one at Charos

Not the boss

[mellow silo]

Oh, no idea then

[golden pond]

Less hit per fight if more damage

[paper badge]

my biggest problem is staying not-dead

[tranquil copper]

yeah there's some grace you have too hit in order for radahn festival to start

blegh

[old brook]

No amount of talisman will make me die in any more boss-slaps so it's all damage baybey

[frozen olive]

not dying is a significant worry

[golden pond]

Dying is part of the process

[frozen olive]

serious issue

[mellow silo]

Need to get that flamedrake+3 for Messmer

[frozen olive]

i've gotten better at it

honestly

i think i'm just going to need to do what i did for Malenia to beat her

and just try for a few days

lock the fuck in and just practice

also powerlevel and max out my fragments and blessings

[dusty kraken]

Unironically, yes. Normally I play slow and careful but this DLC hits so hard I need to go dodgier and harder hitting or I'll get ground down with how I normally play XD

[tranquil copper]

aight dlc unlocked

[paper badge]

pw set to HORUS

[frozen olive]

i think i'm missing a sacred tear as well

gonna need to grab it

[tranquil copper]

2s testing if I need to get up to the gate again to unlock it bc if I do I need to hit like

3 flags and 4 bosses

[atomic jetty]

flasks max out at +12

so if youre below that youre missing 1 yea

[frozen olive]

i am pretty sure it's sitting at 11

[atomic jetty]

you also get a max of 14 total flasks

in case youre missing golden seeds

[frozen olive]

i really need to get every advantage possible so i'm going to grab that last one

i am sitting at 14 so i am good

[tranquil copper]

ok yeah i need to make it to the boss room

be there shortly

just need to figure out how to warp through the impassable bit and it should be fine

[frozen olive]

i'm not going to have any shame fighting this last boss

every advantage possible shall be mine

[paper badge]

my biggest complaint with the DLC is. relatively minor. but I do think it's a very huge fumble on fromsoft's part

[dusty kraken]

What I'm using: ||Rotten Wing, Two Handed Sword Talisman, Shard of Alexander, Blood Exultation to boost up my Blood Tax Milady||

[paper badge]

why on earth would they tie the sekiro-style blocking to a tear

and not a talisman

[golden pond]

To limit its usage, idk

[paper badge]

also

wrt the final boss

I cannot stress enough that like

[tranquil copper]

boss spoilers because I can use this treck to get some funny pics: he eepy

[paper badge]

I cannot dodge a lot of that shit without bloodhound step

like rolling does not go far enough and/or does not have enough iframes

[tranquil copper]

he seems designed for blocking and/or using the ||deflecting hardtear||

[frozen olive]

i can dodge pretty much everything ||in the first phase||

but ||second phase just demolishes me so far||

[tranquil copper]

oh thats. Hm. Ok I'll try doing this but I might need to trip certain flags anyway...

[frozen olive]

at least the deflection thing last a long time

honestly probably long enough for any boss fight i'd think

[vivid spire]

BAYLE YOU FUCKER

[golden pond]

Need to go grab all the damage boosting talismans for magic

[vivid spire]

as soon as I step in

He slams me and I die

[golden pond]

Especially the silly cast speed one

[vivid spire]

I do opaline

But nope

[tranquil copper]

I uh

[golden pond]

😭 gf had that, didn't make it through fog gate all the way and she got bitch slapped immediately

[tranquil copper]

I fell while tping

whoops

yeah ok im just going to do this the "intended" way

ughhh

trip to ||shadow keep|| ig

[vivid spire]

I’m gonna go back to Romina

Got to 11 fragments it should be enough

She’s weak to bleed right

[paper badge]

I appreciate your efforts to get to the final boss in a timely fashion but I have to go to bed soon lmao

[frozen olive]

honestly i didn't actually have much problems with ||Bayle killing me instantly||

[tranquil copper]

thats fair, I'll see if I can prep this before bed then I'm sorry 😔

[frozen olive]

got in just fine, everything after, not so much

[paper badge]

we'll try tomorrow!

[tranquil copper]

I dont think I can make it to final boss in shorter than like 20m, I've got only super-basic stuff available to me because they changed all the flags (understandably)

[tranquil copper]

aye! o7

[frozen olive]

i will also be available tomorrow

might need to do a bit of prep but even without it i can give it a shot

[tranquil copper]

as a neat thing btw, spoilered just in case but theres not much to see here you cant actually climb ||the shadow tower|| before setting the various flags in central off because the staircase straight doesn't exist

now, someone mentioned a way to skip ||ensis|| - if you're still around do you remember where that spirit spring was?

[mellow silo]

I do

[tranquil copper]

pretty please 🙏

[frozen olive]

also i mentioned at some point that i wanted to try to solo whatever the hardest boss in the dlc was for clout

i retract that statement vigorously

[mellow silo]

There is a passage underneath the Pillar Path Waypoint Grace that leads to a bunch of poison swamps (thank you Michael Zaki), and further beyond is a cabin and the spirit spring

[frozen olive]

i am absolutely not fucking doing that

[tranquil copper]

I don't I'm going for gold with this thing I love the fight

[tranquil copper]

ty 🙏 going that way now saves me a bunch of time because it should be a straighter path and I dont need to slowly grind down anything in the way

[vivid spire]

Romina still fucking sucks

God I hate this

[frozen olive]

i'm getting bullied so hard i don't even know how i'm supposed to win at all

[vivid spire]

I can’t get to the main story at all

[frozen olive]

so i'm just going to try to win

[vivid spire]

Fuck it I’m not fighting for the goodness of humanity anymore

[tranquil copper]

oh hey

I found an npc I never saw

neat

[vivid spire]

I am fighting out of rage

[tranquil copper]

explains why I never found them lmao

[vivid spire]

Because all four of the bosses I have found

Have proven to be utterly insurmountable obstacles

[mellow silo]

I was hoping Romina would be the ER equivalent of Rosine. But nope, pink centipede guy

[vivid spire]

sigh

[vestal night]

so in the interest of saving myself some time trudging around
is there anything of note outside of ||Midra's Manse|| in the spooky area?

[tranquil copper]

no

[vestal night]

okay good

[vivid spire]

Back to fucking sautree farming

[tranquil copper]

I left a message there saying dead end ahead for a specific section because there's just an enemy and 3 madness cleansing bolii there

[vestal night]

then I can just deal with this and not wander around aimlessly there

[tranquil copper]

if there's more its not visible in the fog and certainly not worth it

[vivid spire]

I mean

[tranquil copper]

@mellow silo before I continue is it down these cliffs (grace is directly behind me)

[paper badge]

there is one last scadutree fragment

[vivid spire]

The fact that I die over and over and get mad is proof I’m not absorbing the work as Miyazaki intended

[paper badge]

tucked away in a random corner

[vivid spire]

Dying is supposed to allow you to learn and grow

So failure should be seen as just another attempt at learning

…I just need more fucking fragments I guess

[golden pond]

Stare vigorously at the toes

[paper badge]

unrelated to the pain and suffering of the final boss

[frozen olive]

time for fragment

[golden pond]

They wouldn't be so detailed if that wasn't the intention

[paper badge]

a lot of the bosses have phenomenal OSTs

my favorites are Dancing Lion and ||Mother of Fingers||

[frozen olive]

yeah the music is insane

[tranquil copper]

yup just found it as you sent that, ty <3

[paper badge]

||https://youtu.be/yacry9jD6sU?si=7kBJLY9XtMZLL4I2|| it's so fucking majestic. it really fits the ||cosmic horror and awe|| vibes

[frozen olive]

yeah

[vivid spire]

HOLY SHIT

[frozen olive]

so glad i got to that fight

[vivid spire]

I STAGGERED HER

[frozen olive]

nice

[vivid spire]

I ACTUSLLY DID IT

then I died

Honestly I’m getting that same feeling I got fighting Margit

[tranquil copper]

ight ||shadow keep|| breahced

[vivid spire]

It’s been replaced from fun to just anger

I want to win now

[tranquil copper]

im going to take the front door bc I just need to get to ||messmer|| and ||the west side||

[vivid spire]

You are roadblocks

Romina is so resistant to status

Bleed spam maybe

I don’t know

[real shadow]

GOT'EM

[frozen olive]

won

i had a big roadblock clean out

[mellow silo]

What are you speedrunning?

[frozen olive]

earlier

i fought all the difficult ones back to back

[tranquil copper]

getting to the summoning pool outside final boss so I can be summoned later :')

because I forgot with how long its been since I played that you need to go up to them and interact wtih them to activate them

so I have 0 dlc pools active

[vivid spire]

Sigh

How are yall fighting the bosses!

I am behind and I don’t like it

[frozen olive]

with great difficulty

[vivid spire]

That’s….

[frozen olive]

and Dung Eater

[tranquil copper]

you're very much not that far behind

as mentioned last time

[vivid spire]

What I’m doing right now but I’m using mimic

[frozen olive]

Dung Eater helped a lot

[vivid spire]

I have twelve fragments

[frozen olive]

aggro king

[vivid spire]

But it seems like my damage output is just lessened

[frozen olive]

i fought like 4 bosses back to back with 15

was difficult

but i managed eventually

eeked out every little bit of cheese i could

[golden pond]

Gf killed ||bayle dread dragon|| with 8 lul

[frozen olive]

damn

respect

[tranquil copper]

i can see that being quite doable

status is cracked for that one

[golden pond]

Yeah, she's hella stubborn lmao

[paper badge]

legit I would use that song for a final combat encounter in a ttrpg

[golden pond]

Shes a Jarwright user 🙏

[frozen olive]

i fought (boss spoilers)||Midra Lord of Frenzy, Scadutree Avatar, Bayle the Dread and Messmer the impaler back to back to back to back||

[paper badge]

woag

[frozen olive]

did a bit of a boss rush

for ||Scadutree|| i found some cheese

which was nice

||Frenzyflame does big ticket damage against it, i managed to kill one full phase of it with ONE cast of Midra's Frenzy Flame||

||and it was the first phase too||

[junior spade]

I can now reliably get to phase 2 of (final boss here) but boy howdy that phase 2 is Something Still

[frozen olive]

yeah

it's a WHOLE thing

[junior spade]

phase 2 final boss spoilers ||I love that theres a gimmick item you actually get to use, im so tickled and giggling over it its such a nice touch||

[vivid spire]

I got so close

I got so fucking close

[golden pond]

https://fxtwitter.com/LISTNRADIO/status/1804864844887179742

[frozen olive]

||Miquella's great rune?||

[vivid spire]

and some of yall beat Romina with blind luck

Maybe playing a caster was a mistake maybe I should just do melee and shield

[junior spade]

it was skill :P

[frozen olive]

i beat her with thunderbolts and lightning

[vivid spire]

…….

[junior spade]

I like to think im very good

[frozen olive]

very very frightening for me

[vivid spire]

Lighting didn’t work for me

Bleed kinda worked but very little

Fuck

I’m gonna go to bed I’m angry

[frozen olive]

oh yeah i ended up doing a blood tax great katana as well

[real shadow]

Romina is a pain in the ass, don't feel bad.

[frozen olive]

lightning wasn't actually that useful for her

[vivid spire]

Yeah

That’s the thing

[frozen olive]

she's tough

[vivid spire]

I’m the only caster in the server

[frozen olive]

i'm

literally a caster???

[vivid spire]

Incantations

[frozen olive]

i've been caster killing every boss almost

[vivid spire]

Not sorcery

[frozen olive]

yeah

what do you think ||Knights Lightning spear|| is?

[mellow silo]

I'm a halfcaster at least

[frozen olive]

it's literally the only thing i've been using

[vivid spire]

How many points do you have in fai/int because I have 60 and it doesn’t seem to work

[frozen olive]

against like, every boss except ||Bayle and Romina||

[real shadow]

Reminder that every major boss in this game is base game end-game difficulty so if you're getting frustrated, take a break, ain't no rush.

[mellow silo]

Lotsa Messmer spells for me

[frozen olive]

i had like 50 faith when i fought most of the earlier bosses

[vivid spire]

Did you get the orb

[frozen olive]

i think i did actually hit 60

[mellow silo]

And of course a Fuckoff Greatsword

[golden pond]

So are all the basic enemies 😭

[vivid spire]

Oh

[mellow silo]

Still fighting Messmer

[golden pond]

Wonder how much 70 int is gonna slap

[vivid spire]

Rings of light is good for stagger

[mellow silo]

Soon...

[frozen olive]

i did beat messmer

was hard

[mellow silo]

Orb shall be MINE

[frozen olive]

but me and Dung Eater cleaned his pockets

[vivid spire]

Wait there’s only three Mesmer spells in game right

[mellow silo]

Yep

[frozen olive]

think so yeah

[mellow silo]

I have the other two

But missing orb

[tranquil copper]

if you want me to help with messmer I should have the summon pool by him set up soon, will be available in like 15m if that

[frozen olive]

i have all three

[mellow silo]

Oh, that would be wonderful

[frozen olive]

i use none of them cause the boss i am at rn does not care about fire

not even a little bit

in fact it doesn't care about anything i throw at it

[mellow silo]

Will still probably die in Phase Two though, basically no experience there

[tranquil copper]

dw I have basically no exp with the fight, I managed to 3 try him by accident

[mellow silo]

Being a Summon alot means that I know Phase One like crazy, but not Phase Two much at all

[real shadow]

Phase 2 is "just keep dodge-rolling oh my GOD why are the giant snakes from Bloodborne back"

[tranquil copper]

oh that's spooky ||if you clip into his room before the cutscene plays its completely dark and you can't see anything||

[vivid spire]

My dad saw me die for the fourth time

He’s keeping a tally

[tranquil copper]

o o f

[vivid spire]

“Why do you even play these games”

“To have a sense of accomplishment at an impossible task”

“Was that what they were made for? You seem to be getting upset”

“I’m not a quitter.”

Dane and Mimic work as human shields

[mellow silo]

Real

[golden pond]

As if life isn't failing and learning from that

[vivid spire]

The issue is that the HP goes way up for the boss

[frozen olive]

i am become sisyphus

[vivid spire]

My overwhelming rage will make me win

[frozen olive]

especially for this final boss

[junior spade]

at least with spirit summons the hp doesnt go up

[vivid spire]

Whenever I played armored core I’d always win after hours of sitting and staring at the tv

[golden pond]

Eldritch horrors vs the Indomitable Human Spirit

[frozen olive]

i need to get the revered spirit ashes too

[vivid spire]

I never won in a pretty way it was always covered in blood

[frozen olive]

Dung Eater needs a zenkai boost

[vivid spire]

Alright Romina

Round five

[frozen olive]

his soulless husk of a body needs a power up

[real shadow]

https://fxtwitter.com/Liz_Caingcoy/status/1804707930970931586

[frozen olive]

lmao

[real shadow]

I know the exact dungeon and yup, happened to me too.

[frozen olive]

just realized ||Scadutree is optional||

man

that sure is going to cause headaches for a lot of people

or well, it probably has

guides will make that redundant i suppose

[real shadow]

The game does tell you what they do.

[frozen olive]

the boss

[vivid spire]

Alright Romina

[real shadow]

Oh, pft right

[vivid spire]

Round six

[frozen olive]

it gives a kind of fucking important item

[tranquil copper]

ok nearly done with my prep, soon relaunch in online (hopefully the save is not flagged somehow from unlocking all graces base game)

[vivid spire]

Round eight

[frozen olive]

you do really want to fight ||Scadutree Avatar||

[vivid spire]

I’m gonna play lethal company

With my friends

[tranquil copper]

completely fair

take a bit of time, enjoy yourself

come back to it when you feel generally better

[frozen olive]

sounds like a good idea

[vivid spire]

Romina is kinda hot

[golden pond]

How tall is the ||arena wide sword swipe from rellana||

[vivid spire]

But not as cool as Rellena

Just cringe

[frozen olive]

holy shit

[tranquil copper]

oke @mellow silo while I relaunch in online lmk what password we're using for summon pool. I can probably also direct drop sign outside room thinking about it but I want to confirm pool works

also I can't warp from where I am rn for some reason

actually should probs fix that first

[frozen olive]

Ludwig is on the final boss and he's on attempt 267

godsdamn

[golden pond]

||I wonder if I can moon over it... can probably moon over the moon slams, unless it doesn't count as being off the floor like a jump||

[old brook]

'scuse me did this ||Bear|| just perform a feint

[frozen olive]

268...

[tranquil copper]

boss has hands

[frozen olive]

it has so much fucking hands

[mellow silo]

Code LANCER

[tranquil copper]

you can. If you're visibly taken off the floor you're not grounded and as such jump

[tranquil copper]

roger, should be down in 3m or less

[frozen olive]

he's fighting it solo which makes him doing less damage than me make sense

[golden pond]

Let's goo, moon time

[frozen olive]

fighting it solo is such a challenge run beat

[tranquil copper]

otoh with no summons he has normal boss hp, you're working on 1.5x if you use 1 npc or player

if you're just using ash then yeah no he's same hp tho

@mellow silo check the summon pool next to the boss fog at ||messmer||

should see me with a big fuckoff hammer

[frozen olive]

i really want the summons stuff

i might give it a shot no summons but i SEVERELY doubt it'll help

[tranquil copper]

completely fair its cool stuff - you get it after anyway even if you don't summon him though which helps a lot

I didn't summon for my winning run outside the ash summon

[mellow silo]

Do not see you

[tranquil copper]

ok im going to just use a normal sign then, the summon pool system is likely borked somehow

[mellow silo]

What level are you?

[tranquil copper]

2s to load in on warp

209 still

password SHOULD be bypassing that tho

[frozen olive]

i might try to do some non-summon runs

[tranquil copper]

as it definitely works for pools

[mellow silo]

Oh yeah, you're too high level to show up in pools

[tranquil copper]

either way signs by fog now

fairnuff then, I love poorly documented stuff 😔

[mellow silo]

200 is the max o can see

[tranquil copper]

should be there

its a real sign this time so should b- yeah there we go

gimme a sec before going in to see what got nerfed on me

need to know if I need to lighten my load etc.

ok good to go

[frozen olive]

ok i apparently don't need summons to get their items so i will probably try some runs without npc summons

see how it goes

[junior spade]

I think my strat Will Work i just need more practice and to figure out two dodge timings in particular

[tranquil copper]

damn deflecting tear did NOT work

im sorry for being so useless in that

[twilit path]

damn, ||Romina|| first boss I haven't downed within 1-3 tries

She just moves so much, back and forward

esp once the second phase hits

[mellow silo]

Died just before phase two

[tranquil copper]

signs back down

swapped physick and talsimans to something closer to my original setup

my raw damage is worse but thats fine - thats not the point of what I prepped

god I fucking suck

[mellow silo]

Got one more attempt in me

[tranquil copper]

signs down

I will try to suck less im sorry 😔

[rich lintel]

holy fuck this is hard

[mellow silo]

HOLY SHIT

[tranquil copper]

im sorry it took me 3 attempts again

[mellow silo]

WE DID IT!

[tranquil copper]

ty for resetting his frost btw

[mellow silo]

I do not care in the least, I was stuck for hours

[tranquil copper]

the fire on your weapon (as i assume thats what it was) reset it enough for me to get 2 extra procs

[mellow silo]

Yup, Fire Knight Greatsword has, you guessed it, fire

[tranquil copper]

oke, now I eep too

[mellow silo]

Same here

[tranquil copper]

as I'm unable to help with the final fight as of rn

[mellow silo]

It's 12:30 in the morning rn

I'm tired

[tranquil copper]

5:30 here :')

[mellow silo]

But at least I can rest happy

[tranquil copper]

gonna be up at 11 I think - trying to reset back to human hours rather than "I woke up at 5 pm"

[left willow]

should anyone care to join, I'll just be dicking about in VC for at least a while

[tranquil copper]

enjoy o7 theres a fair few fun things to find in the new overworld

[mellow silo]

Faith requirement 60 for the Orb

Nope

44, take it or leave it

[tranquil copper]

te spear has completely gorked damage

no poise damage but eh

[glossy delta]

Oh
My god
I just hit the best fucking part of the DLC so far
(Events that occur in the last area of the DLC)
||THE SHOWDOWN||
||THE MIQUELLA MANIACS CIVIL FUCKING WAR||

[tranquil copper]

gl o7

[glossy delta]

Oh no I beat them

First try
But it was AMAZING

[tranquil copper]

they're not why I said good luck

:)

[glossy delta]

lmao

But yeah that was just
RAW
RAW RAW RAW
HELL YEAH

||Everyone having dialogue??????????????????????????????????||
||WITH EACHOTHER AND NOT JUST YOU??||

||Ahnsbach dueling Leda while I handle Dane, my Mimic and Thiollier tangling with Moore||
||As everyone talks about their ideals and how its a shame its come to this||

MWAH
KISS KISS

[junior spade]

ITS SO GOOD

[glossy delta]

||God||
||And my favorite part honestly was seeing Thiollier lucid again, and with something approaching resolve||
||Going 'this is what St. Trina wants, and I'm here to do it'||

||Boy got off his Lean addiction||

||I still find it very funny that a big plot point of the DLC is a poisonous deep purple drug that makes you drowsy||

[junior spade]

Just wait till what comes next

[glossy delta]

I have, alas, been spoiled somehat, but I'm excited to see it with my own eyes

[frozen olive]

You are not prepared

[glossy delta]

I bet I am not

[frozen olive]

I guarantee it

[glossy delta]

OMG
(more of the above)
||Ahnsbach forgives you for killing Mohg 🥺 ||
||I fucking love this old cultist grandpa||

[frozen olive]

||Ansbach is cool||

||where did you get dialogue with him?||

[glossy delta]

||After the Miquella Maniacs Civil War, go up the elevator and he's right by the doorway to the big staircase||
||I assume you must do his quest and summon him for the MMCW||
||You can confess(!) about killing Mohg, and talk about how Thiollier did well in the fight||

[frozen olive]

Oh!

||i went up but i must have missed him||

||hope he's still there, i summoned him for the final boss, idk if that advances him away or not||

[junior spade]

He's such a cool concept for a character

[glossy delta]

Oh sweet lord
(LITERAL FINAL BOSS SPOILERS)
||Yeah Radahn is gonna be one of those Raptor Of The Mist bosses||
||Also Omen horns on his arms- Mohg Moment?||

[frozen olive]

||did you summon Ansbach?||

[glossy delta]

Oh and I just checked yeah
||Summoned him, he is still by the elevator after one attempt||

[frozen olive]

Nice

Ty

||Ansbach mentions that Radahn may have some Mohg bits in him||

||"General Radahn, it's nice to see you after all this time, but those remains do not belong to you. Lord Mohg will have his dignity"||

[glossy delta]

Okay (MORE LITERAL ACTUAL FINAL BOSS SPOILERS)
||I think this is probably a 'get all the scadutree blessings' boss in fact||

[frozen olive]

Yes

Like i said

You are not prepared

[glossy delta]

||Yeah it seems like Radahn is getting incarnated into Mohg's body||

[frozen olive]

||Consort Radahn is harder than Malenia by a significant degree from what i've found||

[frozen olive]

||something like that i think||

||just wait until you get to later parts in the fight||

(Spoilers regarding the final boss, do not click if you haven't fought it for a bit)||replace world with boss||

[glossy delta]

||Oh Frejya||
||By this point I am well used to arena wide instakill vast explosion nuclear bombs||
||Its passe by this point||

[frozen olive]

||It's much worse than that||

||far, far worse||

Btw did you fight ||the Scadutree avatar?||

[glossy delta]

||Not yet no||
||I figured I'd go in and see the big boy then go around and explore a bit further||

[frozen olive]

👍

Sounds like a plan

||Scadutree Avatar has some neat stuff so i'd rec killing it at some point||

[vestal night]

spelunking down the big hole in the coast now

[frozen olive]

As you do

[golden pond]

All the classics have Spelunking in the Big Hole

Terraria, minecraft, eldy ring

[vivid spire]

https://youtu.be/67ffuBQ8YvM?si=8h1TobMPdroCD8Dy

Ohh

Now that makes sense

I can go elsewhere

I needed more than one person to hammer that to me

I will say

Some of the bosses have very punishing movesetse

[golden pond]

Yeah, treat the blessings as the new runes system

[twilit path]

oh. I guess this room is messmer's. Sorry friend, don't think I'm ready for you

I'm viscerally upset that Commander ||Gaius does NOT give a MY NAME IS callout as he rides in||

[golden pond]

I hate birds

all birds

delete birds

[dusty kraken]

New throwing knives are great vs birds

[golden pond]

I hate birds especially on thin fucking bridges

I roll past the attack but bird swoops past so camera is fucky and it makes me roll off the platform

[twilit path]

oh shit ok this guy is quite difficult.

p1 easy... p2? Get fukt

what scadutree blessing level are people at near endgame?

I feel like I've done a pretty good job scouring for them but not sure

[golden pond]

last i hear, people were doing final boss with 18 or so

[twilit path]

ah, still got a bit to go then. I'm only at 12

[old brook]

||okay loving the meteoric greatsword, thing hits like a freight train and Ash moves like one||

[nova smelt]

I SOLOED MESSMER

[old brook]

AYY CONGRATS, i know nothing of the fight aside from Very Hard

[nova smelt]

Turns out it's hella easy if you use ||the claws of night||

Like, I switched to that weapon and then beat him immediately

[vivid spire]

Hmm

Screw it I'm done being a caster

Melee time

[old brook]

I always end up a spellsword of some variety

There's too many fun things to play with

Right now I've got an Ultra Greatsword, ||Karate||, ||Poison Perfume||, and 50 Faith/Int

[golden pond]

Helphen's Steeple and Carian Regal Scepter

[old brook]

Helphen's is such a cool model..

[stone cove]

Oh shit

So

Scriptsmith weapons. They have native physical scaling from int/faith. This carries over to Fire/Flame Arts/Magic/Lightning/Cold/Sacred

[old brook]

That seems like a great way to make something cold as hell

Ice Knife.. just like Dungeons Dragons..

[stone cove]

It seems like a great way to get some crazy ar on some very good weapon movesets.

[golden pond]

i like it cause cold c:

[old brook]

I don't have the brains to figure out Cold so I do all them other statuses

( Except Rot because they hate giving us that and for good reason )

[golden pond]

mimic tear fucking sucks man

you got a staff man, use it

just walking at maliketh, getting beat up

[frozen olive]

||it would have been really cool||

[golden pond]

Ranni Acquired

can't wait to hit dlc and get slammed by a reality check

cause man these base game bosses ain't shit

[steel scroll]

Oh my god. I can't believe it. I forgot to change my talismans after I respecced into the lightning axe. I've been walking around with holy boost this whole time. I FORGOT TO PUT ON MY TWO-HAND TALISMAN. GOD.

NOT JUST HOLY BOOST. SCORPIOM CHARM HOLY BOOST. IVE BEEN TAKING MOFE DAMAGE FOR NOTHONG

[frozen olive]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[steel scroll]

Also I beat dlc ||rot|| boss. So the ||scarlet rot was a direct result of the crusade. WHOOPS.||

[frozen olive]

Nah

||The scarlet rot exists independant of Romina, she just did some fuckshit with it||

[limpid peak]

||scarlet rot is from an outer god, I think||

[golden pond]

jumped radagon's big slam, still got hit, what the fuck man

landed on some nice soft rock and still took damage 😔

[frozen olive]

||There's a whole outer god of Rot, Romina just combined the Bud she found with the Scarlet rot to try to save it from dying, since Rot even as a form of malevolent decay promotes its own kind of life||

[limpid peak]

I'm stuck on four bosses, my strategy of just wandering off and doing something else when I'm stuck has finally come to an end

[frozen olive]

Yoooo i was in that predicament as well

I just locked the FUCK in and fought them all back to back to back to back

[limpid peak]

Commander ||Gaius|| is a monster, he's the one I'm currently beating my head against

but there's also ||Bayle||, ||Mother of Hands|| and endgame spoilers ||Consort Radahn||

[golden pond]

what's your blessing at

[limpid peak]

just got it to 14

[golden pond]

||Bayle|| shouldn't be a big issue then

[frozen olive]

For the endgame one

[golden pond]

gf did it at 8, you got this gamer

[frozen olive]

You'll want to max out your scadutree blessing

And your revered spirit ash

Not using summons for the dlc is basically handicapping yourself

[golden pond]

not using them by default is a handicap tbh

[frozen olive]

In fact you're actually just doing a challenge run if you don't

The DLC even gives you a whole resource just for powering them up

[golden pond]

tbf
that's cause the dlc is tuned differently

[limpid peak]

I'm using summons, when the boss gives me an opening to summon them 😄

[golden pond]

summons would be fucking useless without the spirit ash lmao

[frozen olive]

I'm going to power level my character and grab all of the revered spirit ash and scadutree fragments for the final fight

In the words of my favourite Elden Ring character

"I've given thee courtesy enough"

[limpid peak]

just went back and first tried Bayle, lmao

[golden pond]

you got this

||gaius next||

[steel scroll]

BAAAAAAAAAYLE!!!!!!!!!!

[limpid peak]

Elden Ring Ahab is the best

[golden pond]

gonna be funny getting one shot all over the place

[limpid peak]

oh god

yeah, you might suffer a bit until you get your vigour up

unless you just don't get hit

which is always an option

[golden pond]

Battlemage Hugues is gonna tank for me 🙏

[frozen olive]

My favourite character in the DLC

||CURSE YOU BAYLE!||

[frozen olive]

A tip also

Scadutree fragments are NOT some optional difficulty tweak

[golden pond]

Uhmmmm

To you maybe

masochist run time

[frozen olive]

It's intended progression just like leveling up

So unless you want to do a SL1 run of the dlc and die in 1 shot to every boss, you WILL need them

[steel scroll]

Igon: ||His damage might genuinely be overtuned in a way I've never seen on an NPC summon before. Like this is some black iron tarkus shit. I genuinely think he might be able to solo him. I kneel.||

[frozen olive]

||Igon is hatemaxxing and he has a build 100% designed to fucking murder Bayle the Dread||

||He lives for the sole purpose of killing Bayle and i respect that||

[golden pond]

Occupation: Professional Hater

[frozen olive]

It's not an occupation

[rich lintel]

holy shit the || putrescent knight || is goofy

[frozen olive]

It's a lifestyle

||Igon LITERALLY lives to kill Bayle||

[frozen olive]

It is yeah lol

[golden pond]

tempted to go get marika's soreseal for even more dumb

[frozen olive]

You're going to get demolished

[golden pond]

yeah but funnily

[limpid peak]

you need this armour set:

It's the ||Rakshasa Armor||

[golden pond]

hohoho

[dusty kraken]

Yay home and getting a chance to Elden Ring some more. Though need to wait for friend to wake up and help me transfer some items. Until then, I'll try to find myself some upgrades.

[limpid peak]

oh, you have dodge the boar charge early

[steel scroll]

Mfw I put on the right talisman for my build and suddenly the bosses start taking damage

[limpid peak]

okay, ||Gaius|| Phase 2 is worse

[steel scroll]

Unironically his ||radahn special is way easier to dodge than the shit ass charge||

[frozen olive]

The ||charge is actually bullshit||

[limpid peak]

yeah, I can't get the hang of dodging it

[golden pond]

||WHY A FURRY SCORPION, UGH||

[frozen olive]

You can't dodge it normally

You have to run to the side and dodge away from it

Otherwise it's random if you actually are able to dodge it or get hit anyway

[steel scroll]

I have defeated ||guy fieri. What was nanaya's problem.||

[limpid peak]

I have no idea what boss you're talking about 😄

[frozen olive]

||Bitches love frenzyflame, may chaos take the world||

[limpid peak]

||Mother of Fingers|| is dead!

whoo

just 2 bosses left

[tranquil copper]

if its still giving you issues, grab barricade shield on a 100 phys block shield

the hitbox for it is bugged and sometimes overlaps more than it should

so sometimes it will clip you for 1/4 and its fine, sometimes it'll oneshot you bc it hit 3 times in a second

[golden pond]

not even a difficulty reality check, shame

[limpid peak]

that's a good tip, it's hard to pull off because he keeps charging me mid-animation, but it works

[tranquil copper]

o7 - bear in mind that on pressing the weapon art button you can immediately hold block during to keep blocking witht he buff active, as the activation once complete does start blocking

[golden pond]

|| DIVINE DOG DEAD IN STYLE||

god i love int scaling swords

who needs fp anyways

[steel scroll]

messmer spoiler ||who the fuck is the based serpent||
||jk im guessing its the same guy that ate rykert. how'd he get in there.||

[frozen olive]

||the Divine Dancing Lion was i think the last boss i killed before the final boss ironically||

[golden pond]

||it was the first one i ran into, i'm trying to rush to Rellana so i can get my moons and funny swords||

[limpid peak]

||wrong direction||

[golden pond]

i'm aware now 😭

[frozen olive]

|| got to Belurat early but i was supremely uninterested in the place so i never ended up fighting the Divine Dancing Lion||

||came back to it as my final fight before going to the final boss||

[golden pond]

Battlemage Hugues came in so clutch

[limpid peak]

got hit with the old "inappropriate activity" for trying to summon 😔

[golden pond]

insane poise damage on the guy

[frozen olive]

I've been using Dung Eater

His aggro game is unmatched

[golden pond]

Until i throw a comet

😭

[golden pond]

||down right, ye? or up right||

[frozen olive]

Dung Eater aggro's so hard i can spam a boss in the back with incantations and they won't even turn around

[limpid peak]

||uh, north, I think||

[golden pond]

||oh like a green place?||

[stone cove]

I just thumped him

He wasnt too bad? I just rolled through his charges and stuck my light greatsword into his boar's skuill a lot

lightning damage seems to nicely fuck him up

[tranquil copper]

||North East, you're going the right way if you find a troll guarding a bridge||

[tranquil copper]

I'm glad the charge was working correctly for you 😌 I'm kind of curious as to what causes it to be fucked up like it currently is

[golden pond]

getting lost in a catacomb instead, but i assume it's this way

[tranquil copper]

because it looks like its a roll straight through angle but that very clearly doesn't work even with the latest safe timing

[tranquil copper]

nope you went too far north

[golden pond]

damn it

[tranquil copper]

back there

[golden pond]

too late

catacomb time

[tranquil copper]

ofc just showing you where to go after

[golden pond]

god i love helphen's

70 int meat stick walking around slamming imps into the floor

[steel scroll]

spoilers for a boss in the nort-west of the map. sometimes you just need to hit the unga bunga button.
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/880135241614917705/1254764062399660073/1904a0cb4fa35-master_playlist_1.mp4?ex=667aad98&is=66795c18&hm=27af14c3e2a3a4321e231430ea36572020b9e0bdbe89c4d47ca2f1c4f1ef5c36&||

(this is how the last run ended hence my panic sipping)

[stone cove]

Oh, that's bizzare, i was able to consisently roll it

[tranquil copper]

might've just been good parts of the arena then idk. Unless you're using a roll extender? Because Bloodhound step was able to consistently clear the entire thing

[stone cove]

Nope, just medium rolling!

I just ofught him near the start where he charges you

and cackled at his very dramatic FULL BOAR ACTION attack when he phase changes.

that was very funny.

[tranquil copper]

specifically:

• Light/Med roll can technically clear it sometimes if the end hitbox doesn't catch you and you roll as the ||tusks|| are about to impact
• Bloodhound step can consistently clear it using the above tell
• barricade shield blocks it but sometimes makes a godawful noise because multiple hitboxes impact it

(and the last part, and seeing mimic tear roll into it and then get hit 3 sep times for around 330 each, is what tipped me off that there's something fucky with the hitbox)

[stone cove]

Werid! I really did not have trouble rolling it

Like i got clobbered a few times, but killed him on my fourth or fifth try

[tranquil copper]

he's otherwise fine outside of that afaik

[steel scroll]

i used boltblink dodge to swooce past him after i enter and pulled out mimic

[tranquil copper]

also replicable for the ||red bears shockwave X attack||

[stone cove]

I did find Wing STance was great vs him, because it lets you re-enage

[tranquil copper]

if you get hit by only the ||shockwave|| part of it they one-tap you at +14 scadu

which does

[stone cove]

and like everything in the game, smacking a target with piercing sdamage during an animation messes them the fuck up

[tranquil copper]

not seem intended

[stone cove]

I have killed the red bears

never got one shot

[golden pond]

||no boss in fog rift catacombs? :C ||

[stone cove]

Dragoncrest

Dragoncrest Greatshield + Opaline Hard tear = Eat 70% phy resistance, ya jerk.

[tranquil copper]

the ||X|| is a lot easier to avoid and they teach you p well how to do it in phase 1, as long as you don't try dodging directly into said thing you would never see it in phase 2

I tried dodging into it

haha

[stone cove]

There is!

[golden pond]

wah

i scoured the whole thing to my knowledge, only got ashes

[tranquil copper]

also yeah thats been hard locked on my talisman/physick the entire dlc

[stone cove]

I dont keep it on most of the time

[tranquil copper]

like for context I fought ||gaius|| and some other stuff around the same time, ||gaius charge|| was able to onetap me while ||messmers stupid long combo|| when it hit me clean 3 times couldn't kill me

[stone cove]

Right now my goto talisman loadout for exploring is Blessed Blue Dew, Taker's Cameo, Rotten Winged and Milcent's

But when it's boss time, i switch off Dew and Taker's to put on Double-headed Turtle, and whatever other talisman i think fits

If the damagee is reallllly getting too much, i start stacking up Dragoncrest and an elemntal, or even do elemetnal + pearldrake (goddamit Darksouls, i keep wanting to write "paledrake")

[stone cove]

So, my theory here is it might be a perfomance issue? Elden RIng has notirously bad pc perofmance, and evne with a very, very good pc, i still get the odd werid signfianct frame drop/freeze for a moment

[tranquil copper]

the weird part to me is that those fights both haven't had performance issues that I could visibly see unlike final boss and the misc ||wicker giants|| dotted around the map

so if there IS an issue its subtle enough that its not visible

[steel scroll]

meanwhile bayle was throwing the entire fromsoft special effects library and his hitboxes were fine

[tranquil copper]

ironically yeah lmao

[stone cove]

Yeah, i'm just spitballing.

But like i just... didnt have any of the hitbox issues people are talking about

[tranquil copper]

I definitely had some issues with his ||breath attack|| and his ||FUCK YOU I STILL HAVE TWO WINGS YOU HAVENT SEEN|| but I never had dupe hitboxes for him

[stone cove]

and i'm normally pretty senstive to werid hitboxes

[tranquil copper]

honestly, probably going to keep a copy of the current weird save around for once the tables fixed up more and then turn hte hitbox visualiser its supposed to have on

[steel scroll]

although one dig at bayle, why the fuck cant i target his KNEES

[tranquil copper]

and see if I'm right or if I'm seeing ghosts

[steel scroll]

uh, knee, i mean

[tranquil copper]

||this would only make bayle stronger||

[stone cove]

I need to download an up to date cheat engine table just so i can dump a bunch of crafting mats into my inventory

[tranquil copper]

the good one hasnt been properly updated, if you have the last version of one that has an item spawner by ID I have a table of those tho for the new DLC mats

p much every script for doing specific flag changes is bricked atm tho so dont use any of those

[stone cove]

I never do, all i do is drop items into my runs

[tranquil copper]

|| https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12XgmvQNdT1k9aWP-J7qwqo1gu2ooIEqFdh23IWsOCL4 ||
courtesy of The Grand Archives as of 3 days ago

[stone cove]

usually stuff that is theortically infinte, but requires grinding

[tranquil copper]

more saying in case you needed to edit Summon Pools for example or wanted to experiment with quests without a second run. I completely forgor in my entire run through the dlc that you need to examine the summon pools to unlock them

[steel scroll]

this is now an official messmer post
https://vxtwitter.com/detectiveraidou/status/1805111328472011017?s=61&t=n_ODcJbXaokFRSjEcg_VxA

[tranquil copper]

so couldn't use them to come help someone yday after I started ng+ which was awkward

[stone cove]

Nah, i have mutliple other characters who are dlc ready

[tranquil copper]

o7 fairnuff

[limpid peak]

||Gaius|| is dead

thank you FATIO, whoever you were

[stone cove]

Grats!

[golden pond]

||fog rift catacombs... please tell me i get to respawn at the gate and don't have to make the entire trek||

[limpid peak]

he kept aggro and only got hit once, what a champ

[tranquil copper]

||you talking about death respawn or getting out of the catacombs?||

[golden pond]

||it's at the gate, thank the looooooooord||

[tranquil copper]

ahk definitely death respawn then

[golden pond]

||liek a 5 minute trek to get to the boss 💀 would've lost it if i had to do it every time ||

[limpid peak]

shit, now it's only one boss left

I've gone through the other three and can't procrastinate anymore

unless... I go hunting for Scadutree Fragments

[tranquil copper]

which one?

I have a guess but

wanna ask

also make sure to ||grab the 5 scadutree fragments|| after the boss you just killed

[limpid peak]

extremely late game spoilers ||Radahn||

[tranquil copper]

yeah I figured it was that one

[fleet bronze]

God the addition of non-blood arcane weapons kicks ass, and the two strength ones seem really kind of nuts

[golden pond]

😔

hugues is too hammer happy, keeps bonking the guy when he's in riposte

i diiid it

ngl

difficulty spike is actually fun

💀 fuck you mean i put in 6h a day

[old brook]

Fissure Spoilers: ||We put Orphan of Kos on a Horse, cunning stuff, Fromsoft||

[frozen olive]

Truly peak

[steel scroll]

I think I just scored the worst messmer clear of all time

[frozen olive]

Owned

[limpid peak]

god, so much Finger lore in this game

but no explanation for why the Three Fingers are like that

[junior spade]

it seems like (from what im reading from base game + new lore) fingers are ||meant for communicating with the beyond, and each finger finds the phone number of a different god; the mother of fingers seems to have lost her number or they stopped answering, so the 3 Fingers just ended up calling the Wacky Wahoo Wild World number||

[limpid peak]

I wonder if ||the various Two Fingers all stop receiving signal too, and what that would mean for the Greater Will. Did shattering the Elden Ring break contact?||

[junior spade]

also, i discovered something REALLY fun but minor last night: I upgraded/changed a Spirit Ash via interaction

[limpid peak]

wait, what?

[junior spade]

Spoilers with minimal details: || I got a Spirit Ash from completing an npc questline, and then while exploring for more goodies and secrets found a puppet of a similar npc, it asked me if i wanted to combine their spirits, and now my spirit ash is Different||

[limpid peak]

neat

[junior spade]

it makes me wonder if theres others or if thats unique

[limpid peak]

I also want to learn more about the Crucible, it's clearly more important here, more talismans and adherant, but I think I missed some lore about it

[junior spade]

at the very least theres more horns

[limpid peak]

yeah, found a bunch

and a combined Crucible talisman

and more omen themed stuff

[junior spade]

👀 havent found the combined yet, that sounds ominous

[steel scroll]

Final dlc area spoiler. Omg they added the datamined ||twinblade of abundance end decay. Different lore though.||

[vivid spire]

Hmmm

[limpid peak]

pre or post boss?

[vivid spire]

I’m gonna sleep

[limpid peak]

eepy is as eepy does

[vivid spire]

I’ll tackle ||Romina/Scadutree/Messmer|| later

Hmm

[steel scroll]

Pre

[limpid peak]

damn, missed that then I think

[vivid spire]

Yall does anyone have a list of every fragment

[limpid peak]

thought I explored well enough

[vivid spire]

That would be helpful

[limpid peak]

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-scadutree-fragment-locations

[vivid spire]

Also the Miquella seal would be good to get my hands on

[limpid peak]

looked it up today

just got to 15 and I'm on the final boss, so I figured I'd look up some more

[vivid spire]

I’m gonna change my build to melee if casting doesn’t work

[limpid peak]

you're looking for the ||Dryleaf Seal||

[vivid spire]

But casting should work it’s just that these bosses are HARD

[limpid peak]

it was in the... east?

[vivid spire]

Alrighty

[tropic stream]

Honestly, I love the one handed light greatsword moveset so much lmao

[limpid peak]

light greatsword is honestly cool as hell

my next run, I might use ||Rellana's||

'cause, paired weapons are sick

but I might do a run with the Dancer's set first

[stone cove]

I fought messmer!

Kileld him on my first try =3

[limpid peak]

nice

[junior spade]

thats impressive

[stone cove]

Hornsent died, but hey, that's whbat he gets for not giving me his name

[junior spade]

he's a bitch and a half

[limpid peak]

he's not the hardest boss in the game, but he is absolutely not the easiest

[junior spade]

i had to go upgrade a lot for messmer

[stone cove]

I am learning that i am a lot better at games than i give myself credit for

[limpid peak]

took me like 20 attempts

[stone cove]

And honestly, it's actually helping me not get tilted in said games

because if i'm having toruble, it probably is gneuinely hard, i'm not just bad

[grave plinth]

https://fxtwitter.com/eldenringmedia/status/1804371672671359091?s=46

[stone cove]

Oh, huh, that's ajn interesting concept. I duno that off hand dryleaf is that good, but it's an interesting idea

[tranquil copper]

damage wise its great

[limpid peak]

might be useful against enemies that you need to keep up pressure on

[tropic stream]

That's my current build lol

But I'm usually one-handing cuz staff or seal or shield

[tranquil copper]

heavy or keen infusion is an A scaling when its at +25 and the moves are fast with followups

[limpid peak]

which you might struggle with, with an ultra greatsword

[tropic stream]

Did people not automatically test this?

[limpid peak]

I mostly just use my seal for buffs

[tropic stream]

I do wish the martial arts as an offhand did have a smaller delay when switching animations to your right hand's attacks, at least with lighter weapons

Lemme play swordmonk fromsoft

[golden pond]

I wish I could jump and turn into a moon mid jump

[limpid peak]

hmm, damn spear and dryleaf does sound like a cool combo

[stone cove]

So, this is annoying. Ansbach's questline has gone werid on me

[limpid peak]

especially with the throwing spear

[stone cove]

he's gone poof, i never got a chance to choose between summon signs

[tropic stream]

Milady and dryleaf is quite fun

[golden pond]

But I did use a moon to dodge ||divine dancing lion dive bite||, felt cool

[limpid peak]

oh by the way, fans of spells: You can get Preceptor Miriam's annoying teleport

(much shorter range than hers)

[tranquil copper]

did you ||give him the secret letter thing in the storage centre in shadow keep?||

[stone cove]

Yep, done all that, done the Freyja part and handed over the letter he writes

[tropic stream]

Are there any easy somber ancient smithing stones other than the two in the Haligtree, the one behind the stationary dragon in Faram Azula, or the one Anastasia drops in her third invade?

[tranquil copper]

huh

[tropic stream]

Cuz I apparently used all of em

[limpid peak]

there's a bunch in the DLC

[tropic stream]

Oh wait no shit I used all of em

[stone cove]

I ||Defeated Leda when she came after Hornsent, so i'm wondering if that's mucked it up somehow?||

[tropic stream]

I forgot my Carian Knight Sword was also +10

[limpid peak]

one in every ruined forge

[stone cove]

@tropic stream They're all over the dlc.

Like quite a lot of them

[tranquil copper]

idk then. Maybe it has to do with ||Moore/Thiollier? Because I didn't have them at all due to accidentally causing Moore to invade me and I literally never met Thiollier. I also defeated Leda when she went for Hornsent so that shouldn't be it||

[tropic stream]

I need a somber is the thing

and the only forge I've done had a normal one

[vivid spire]

Hmm

[limpid peak]

I think that messes it up, yeah

[vivid spire]

Maybe it’s because I’m spamming the incantations

[wild sierra]

new character and boss ||"Rennala's sister Rellana"|| is one of the funniest dumb naming scheme bits they have done in a game full of these

[vivid spire]

Romina didn’t give me openings unless I got a summon

[tranquil copper]

There's ||an ancient dragon on the way up jagged peak if you haven't killed it yet||

[tropic stream]

Oh god that b*tch

I think she'd be harder than the ghostflame dragons

[tranquil copper]

as mentioned above it didn't mess it up for me

[tropic stream]

So I'd rather just try those cuz they also drop one

[stone cove]

Ghostflames are weak to holy

[tranquil copper]

she's super weak to frost/bleed - grab mimic tear beforehand and just go to town

[junior spade]

if you have the Dragon Man's Cool Item, it helps a lot

[wild sierra]

ghostflames like all non-lightning dragons really do not enjoy Ancient Dragon Lightning Storm

[tranquil copper]

also yeah, that

[real shadow]

The ghostflame that's busy fighting a bunch of soldiers is the easier one because by the time it finishes killing them off he's down almost a quarter health.

[stone cove]

also like there's zero shame in just using cheat engine to give you one

[wild sierra]

you just walk under them and deal 6000 damage

[limpid peak]

alright, looked it up

[real shadow]

Granted that takes...over 5 minutes of waiting but y'knowww.

[stone cove]

Ironically, been teh hardest for me

[limpid peak]

just 4 in the DLC

all from dragons

[real shadow]

cuz of the jank terrain?

[wild sierra]

I was too lazy to wait for the NPCs to finish each other off with their reduced damage and had to wade in to kill the black knights

[stone cove]

Because the npcs do so much damage and juggling them and the dfragon is arse

[real shadow]

Oh I just waited it out.

Sit back and let'em brawl.

[junior spade]

perfect time to eat a snack

[real shadow]

Yup

Note that one of the knights might turn their bow on you if you're in line of sight but the dragon eventually draws their attention.

[junior spade]

i did that with the double dragons, i went and got some oreos lmao

[real shadow]

I'm patient, I'll just let enemies kill each other if they're already fighting.