I do hope they expand on the puppeteer storyline soon post release
#Abiotic Factor
sick charm
soft chasm
the library is rancid
clever flower
That one that can crouch through doors, that got me good
soft chasm
god it stresses me out every fucking time
sick charm
That’s like still the most curious part of the lore for me
sick charm
That one that can crouch through doors, that got me good
Ayep
supple dome
Symphonists too
sick charm
My friend insisted on taking the perk that makes him more noticeable to enemies
sick charm
And of course immediately triggered the composer as we were leaving the library
dusty oak
Okay this game looks sick af, I will enjoy playing it with her in like, 3-5 years
supple dome
Yeah
clever flower
They are not an easy fight especially at the start
woeful raptor
it's fun
dense ember
Hahaha
supple dome
Abiotic fucking RULES
sick charm
And we had to run all the fucking way to the office
soft chasm
composers cannot be fought, only evaded, make wretched nightmare noises as they attack you, and lurk in the most fucked places
supple dome
But yeah prolly wait lmao
clever flower
Security Sector in general
dense ember
As if that wasn't enough, there's the Reaper in sector 4
clever flower
Even just how dark everywhere gets
soft chasm
reaper's a huge baby
supple dome
The reaper is kind of a nerd
dense ember
It's a baby when you know it's weak ess
soft chasm
his sector is the BLOOD AND THUNDER SHADOW REALM
supple dome
But it is kinda scary looking
clever flower
They made him tougher
dense ember
Ah fc
clever flower
But also being kidnapped to a dimension you don't know how to escape
soft chasm
if you're fully cloaked
clever flower
Is probably a lot for the aforementioned 9 year old
soft chasm
fundamentally, reaper is unsettling, but not threatening
unless you go out of your way to make him threatening, in order to get gubbins
soft chasm
which necessitates the ability to fuck him up and get those gubbins
unlike the composers and leyak, who are unsettling and threatening
and both before reaper
soft chasm
Okay this game looks sick af, I will enjoy playing it with her in like, 3-5 year...
anyway yes, abiotic factor is like, a 9.5/10 game for me
it gets a nearly unconditional rec from me to basically anyone that Likes Videogames
clever flower
I've had folks bounce off
soft chasm
it has an exp system that's pretty ass, but not offensively so outside of one and a half big stinkers
and that's the only thing detracting a half-point from it, really
clever flower
also I swear they adjusted xp gain
soft chasm
it's definitely not a game for everyone
clever flower
Things have felt faster
soft chasm
but it's a game that i will recommend to everyone
supple dome
Same
soft chasm
exp gain for some skills has been adjusted with 1.0, but not all
supple dome
Abiotic Factor is incredibly fucking good
soft chasm
throwing and construction were (mostly) made faster
dense ember
I just wish Fishing Skill is more useful
soft chasm
fishing is busted what
dense ember
Apparently it only affects the health of the line so it snaps less but
soft chasm
oh the skill itself
dense ember
Yeah
soft chasm
Apparently it only affects the health of the line so it snaps less but
it also improves fish hp reduction
dense ember
Playing the mini game tha lasts so long each time can be a bit annoting
sick charm
I love mugging the reaper for his shadow crystals with just a single piece of laser redirector
soft chasm
(as long as you have the tacklebox)
soft chasm
I love mugging the reaper for his shadow crystals with just a single piece of la...
not that easy anymore
he's got a sort of health system
sick charm
oh?
dense ember
Fish hp reduction?
sick charm
damn
soft chasm
takes more than one hit to zoot
quite a bit more, and each time you banish him he's more resistant
sick charm
so I gotta get him into the path of the laser multiple times for him to despawn?
soft chasm
on top of that, he's a lot more resistant if he sees you before you see him
clever flower
This was startling to learn the first time
supple dome
I used to just laser pistol his goofy ass
dense ember
quite a bit more, and each time you banish him he's more resistant
Fuck
sick charm
well with 4 people all with laser pistols I'm sure his 'resistance' will disappear soon
soft chasm
instead of a joke
clever flower
Oh for sure
sick charm
the fish gives night essence sometimes when butchered right
dense ember
Yup
clever flower
sometimes
soft chasm
they probably need to make him a bit more dangerous again, but
it's so much more active and interesting than security 0.x
soft chasm
the fish gives night essence sometimes when butchered right
yeah, low rate but reliable
soft chasm
unforchies fishing in abf is as boring as it is overpowered
clever flower
Wait does spuddy affect fish
sick charm
I have no idea
soft chasm
gotta farm up night oil too anyways
GOOD NEWS
clever flower
also what does overpowered mean in regard to fish lmao
soft chasm
ON TOP OF OIL BEING CRACKED IN GENERAL FOR TECH BANDAGES
THE TALAGI UPGRADE IS A SHADOW DEMON DESTINY GUN
sick charm
oh heck
soft chasm
and uses black oil
it doesn't have a t3, so unfortunately it does fall off
but it's goated against like
dense ember
100 damage gun with 6 shots is still damn good anyway
soft chasm
order and all of the plant and reactor-tier exors
much less so against (non-mystic) gks, but
clever flower
I've fought so many of those reactor exes now
soft chasm
that's a gk matchup thing
muted juniper
q: do heavy weapon swings ever get faster?
soft chasm
not after str 8
dense ember
Hahahha...i wish
soft chasm
there are some zonked heavies
sick charm
i have yet failed to see an enemy that didn't get fucked up from a sneak attack crit from a carbon pickaxe
soft chasm
but apparently (i haven't used it because it's a sword lmao) the hardlight saber is mathematically the best in slot melee weapon in the game
and also functions as an always-on shield
and it's a 2h
dunno if it's a heavy or light-but-two-handed, like a couple others
clever flower
It's light
sick charm
its a light waepon yeah
very fast swing speed
I think I'll start using the sword in lab
sick charm
anyone craft the supposed "advanced knife" yet
soft chasm
different sword
clever flower
Hardlight is also light/fast
soft chasm
anyone craft the supposed "advanced knife" yet
nah, i respecced and that's fucked
you go down to 3 in everything
and i haven't gotten cooking back up yet
dense ember
A lot could sure use some polish in 1.0
dense ember
I think what the super chef knife does it ensure always loot drop
clever flower
And yeah I've made the knife, it chops up remains better than anything supposedly, things seem to almost always drop if they can
clever flower
Also: looks neat
soft chasm
and set up my farms of the good blue stuff
wait, do glow tulips make something useful now?
i thought it was just their salad
sick charm
They drop aloe vera
clever flower
Also it repairs one strange gun
soft chasm
As well as silk fish bait for infinite transcendium
it's kinda weird that the betta fish needs encroachment stuff
but also
orc city exor village is way faster transcendium than feesh ime
you don't need such a ridiculous quantity that your biweekly excursions can't cover it
soft chasm
the two railguns in the game both go hard
the t2 magbow is broadly better ime, but the scout has two benefits
one: mag size
two: no projectile, so no projectile falloff
sick charm
yeah that's what i think
soft chasm
two and a half: it's strictly optimal to quickswap after firing like a huge chode and/or counter-strike player
because the draw animation is faster than the pull animation
by quite a margin, as well
sick charm
hmm
woner if t2 magbow headshot will one shot kill a gatekeeper
tbh though
I just use grenades against gatekeepers
mugnade usually sorts out most gatekeeper short of a jotunn real quick
soft chasm
woner if t2 magbow headshot will one shot kill a gatekeeper
one-shots neos
almost or actually one-shots mystics iirc
sick charm
would one shot witches too I'd guess
soft chasm
at least from stealth
sick charm
since the are pretty weak
sick charm
not looking forward to cleaning out the encroachment while menaced by a leyak
although tb
tbh
they are pretty weak otherwise
soft chasm
not looking forward to cleaning out the encroachment while menaced by a leyak
just finish hydro first tbh
sick charm
oh
soft chasm
so like 20 mugnades
sick charm
guess grenade then yeah
soft chasm
bro has like 1500 hp
sick charm
i just want to grab the tulips
clever flower
Laser Grenade and Deatomizer get Nyth down its just sort of whack-a-mole as she flies through tunnels
Lugging around a laser recharger is a solution to many of life's big problems
supple dome
very nice
sick charm
I think they should include a new bar kind of object
where wandering traders can sit and rest at
instead of having them walk around everywhere and be creepers
could also enable them to spawn in Torii
soft chasm
yeah...
they get in my group's fucking way all the time
marion and grayson keep clogging up doorways
sick charm
yeah so I think Bar type object makes sense
a chair for them to appear in
out of the way of others
soft chasm
i am currently farming the excursion bots for hearts of corruption, as one does
waiting for my buddies to get on for the day
and god
the gks are my fucking favorite
they are friend
sick charm
God
I always have sensitive hearing
So I have a good sense of when Leyak is around
But I think I’m so paranoid
That I swear I just heard a leyak in rl
soft chasm
lmao
clever flower
It's such a perfectly uncomfortable sound
brittle comet
i got jumpscared by leyak last session
good think i keep the x-ray lamp on my hotbar
sick charm
I got jumpscared by a leyak last session rounding a corner too
It didn’t aggro though so we just stared at each other uncomfortably
muted juniper
i didn't realize there's a leyak in my base and went to sleep
got chased by her IN MY FUCKING DREAM
oak parcel
got to (hydro spoilers)||put her in the forever box||
supple dome
looked at the new achievements
going to be fun getting some of them
the one i really wanna get on my current playthrough is mostly just ||electric dreams||
gfdi now i want to fucking achievement hunt
gotta wait
oak parcel
that feel when you accidentally oob and now you're stuck
supple dome
been trying to get a fog event with Fog Caller
but it's actually giving me fucking any other possible event except the fog one
sick charm
can't you just eat some fogiri
supple dome
i've been eating fogiri
i've eaten like 5 fogiri
i'm actually going to go insane
5 fogiri down, no fog event
sick charm
why do you want a fog event anyways
supple dome
need a symphonist head
muted juniper
i guess another recurring joke the server i'm in is "welcome to abiotic factor, you have hurt your leg"
supple dome
forgot my teleporter and there is apparently a ||black fog event now for the reaper||
so i've been traversing in the dark like a jackass
genuinely can't see shit
another night with no fog
ok i got the key another way
fucking fog
sick charm
need a symphonist head
Couldn’t you just go to flat hills
My friend and I farmed up symphonists for the armor set before heading too deep into manufacturing
Very good armor
Esp when wearing the foghorns
supple dome
i went to flathill and ||killed Composers until one dropped a key||
ok it seems the only non progression achievement i have left is one i can farm
i also need to kill a ||Jotun|| but that's easy enough
sick charm
i mean don't ||symphonists spawn in flathills? I've found at least 2 lurking around every reset...||
supple dome
i couldn't find any
supple dome
ok ready to go out and kill as many ||Gatekeeper enemies|| as i can for the ||Ragnarok achievement||
supple dome
?
sick charm
Hotbar
supple dome
fanny pack diff
imagine not picking the most goated skill in the game
you get 2 extrra hotbar slots and everything in the hotbar weighs 25% less iirc
i haven't played without it yet
oak parcel
the 25%less is just default hotbar behavior
oak parcel
its just the 2 slots which is still a manditory pick
supple dome
I simply wouldn't play without it
oak parcel
i was hoping 1.0 would come with a trait rework that would just make it default
high badge
I simply would not play with it and be fine :p
supple dome
I mean yeah it's 2 slots it won't ruin the run if you don't have it
But it is nice to have
dense ember
it sure is strange how a fancy pack and let you carry two more rocket launcher but I'm sure a scientist can figure something out
you know, it's funny
how after hours upon hours of Leyak silently stalking you, ||Krasue's manner of 'I'M ACTUALLY JUST GOING TO FREEZE YOU AND KILL YOU'|| somehow feels less terrifying
dense ember
hmmm
so, there's some difference in the early area that I have noticed in my new playthrough
but whether they are 1.0 changes, or new addition I didn't bother to revisit for, I dunno
also, was it this damn hard for cracked flashlight to drop, I'm halfway through manufacturing and these damn order still haven't drop a single cracked flashlight, I need my headlight dammit
soft chasm
what are the changes?
soft chasm
also, was it this damn hard for cracked flashlight to drop, I'm halfway through ...
also no, i see cracked shoulder lights on like every single goon
probably just rolling poor
dense ember
it might be the power of the spuddy, which I do not have right now
so, it looks like that Flathill is slightly easier on the third stage now, as soon as you avoid the guy in front of the elevator, you can pretty much run to the top
there's also an extra respawn point in the mine part of manufactory
soft chasm
it might be the power of the spuddy, which I do not have right now
i haven't worn the spuddy this entire run
dense ember
alright, going on a killing spree then
soft chasm
10-20, somewhere in the ballpark
you usually get like two or three from the manu west apartment guys
sometimes more
sick charm
I’ve been getting nothing but flashlights when I want damned extra sec pistols
25% odds of dropping per pistol grunt my ass
But yeah clear out the fortified compound
I should set up Tesla coils there to automate soldier farming
muted juniper
Friend is scratching head at capacitor drop rate
He thought it's guaranteed from electro pests?
muted juniper
Ok I'll tell him to stop using a vacuum (zero idea why he thinks that's part of the process)
sick charm
vacuum will explode an elextropest
soft chasm
Ok I'll tell him to stop using a vacuum (zero idea why he thinks that's part of ...
oh lmao, vacuuming to kill a pest gives 0 drops
ever
sick charm
which also ruins all of its drops
soft chasm
it guarantees none of the pest's drops
sick charm
so never vacuum an elecctropest
capacitors are worth their weight in gold
more, even
capacitor based economy
soft chasm
never zucc an electro-pest, and consider hard whether you're going to zucc a volatile pest
sick charm
volatile pest stuff can be turned into so much useful stuff
but capacitors are called for in so many ammo recipes
supple dome
Imma do some enemy farming when i get home
sick charm
yeah i've just been rushing through manufacturing and train for soldier loot
and checking back on my coils for robot drops near aquarium
supple dome
Wanna get all the missable achievements i can out of the way so when i finish the run i'm on atm i'll get the 100%
sick charm
once I set up a base of operation in my usual haunt of over the aquarium
i'll have all the tier 2 secbot parts I can wish for
supple dome
Well moreso that you won't get them unless you go for them
sick charm
dlcs seem pretty inevitable for this game
considering a lot of features I think could use more polish and more content
supple dome
Mainly the achievement i'm specifically going for on our run is the ||Kylie Muir one||
sick charm
I still have yet to find a single watch replacement
despite it being in my inventory slot
supple dome
Which is one of the more missable ones
sick charm
i still wanna know what's in anteverse I
supple dome
Cheese
soft chasm
i still wanna know what's in anteverse I
i hope we never actually find out tbh
like, i don't ever want to see the conductor
sick charm
but now that I'm looking for it I feel like i've started to notice its presence everywhere
clever flower
i love patching the lore together for this game
any time there's a Manse Podium i'm so "!!! MY GUY"
sick charm
this gamefocuses a lot on anteverse II
but when will we finally get to the FLESH dimension
still igloo
Any dimension can be a flesh dimension with time and effort!
still igloo
Btw, anyone know if the Long Jump Pack actually works in any portal worlds where the Jetpack doesn't?
The description claims it does, but at least in ||The Praetorium|| it doesn't seem to
still igloo
Might depend on the world, this is just the first one my group is exploring since 1.0
sick charm
I want the long jump pack already
Long for it
Pretty sure I can just use it to skip and hop my way to voussoir still
With a bit of creative use of jump pads
soft chasm
Btw, anyone know if the Long Jump Pack actually works in any portal worlds where...
it does not
sick charm
Think the game really does need some more polish and content
Feel like a lot of the stuff should genuinely be a side grade
soft chasm
yeah, i really want to see more upgrades and sidegrades
interested to see what the new roadmap looks like
still igloo
My group's main gripe is still the truly ridiculous exp grind
still igloo
At least throwing is less awful now, but I've been cooking for three people since day 1, and I'm at cooking 11. Which is <20% of the way to max.
I like the different shields, they mostly feel like genuine options
Same with jetpack vs jump pack
sick charm
oh it does but it's still significantly worse dmage than an arcvolt spear
err lightning spear
despite the fact that you get the lightning spear earlier
sick charm
yeah but lightning spear does 30 bonus electric damage
lodespear does 10 bonus holy damage
soft chasm
the lodespear deals 10 holy damage per tick
sick charm
hmm
still igloo
What is the difference between the Arcvolt and standard Lightning btw?
still igloo
The wiki has them listed as the same, but idk how accurate that is
sick charm
huh
soft chasm
What is the difference between the Arcvolt and standard Lightning btw?
i have no idea
soft chasm
my assumption is either that it gets an increased aoe, or that it applies to the central target more effectively in some way
sick charm
i switch it out pretty quickly for the quill spear when I get the chance
although I think i'll go with the volt staff this run
still igloo
My group is eternally out of quills so I've never bothered with that one
I should find a set of ||security armor|| and use the ||energy shield|| to farm them at some point
sick charm
We are swimming in quills after murdering a bunch of exors
Or we did
I think portalfishing also gives quills
still igloo
Our quill count is very spikey, it goes up quickly until someone notices we've got a bunch and grabs the quill rifle
Then it plummets
sick charm
i noticed btw
that throwing 5 also lets me recover projectiles shot with sceince weapons
I've been autopicking up grinder discs
sick charm
yeah I think i'm just gonna main grinder gun now
still igloo
Especially if it grabs ones that go below the floor
Grinder has pretty much always been a mainstay of my kit
sick charm
i switch it out for quill rifles and deatomizers
still igloo
I have a bunch of other weapons I use but when stuff gets hairy nothing is so reliable
sick charm
honestly i go for headshots and single shots with quill rifle anyways
still igloo
Deatomizers are nice but run out too fast
sick charm
I carry a collector on me
still igloo
Yeah, but using that in combat is a pain
sick charm
true but then you can also just use the supreme mobility of your jump pack to retreat to safety
or in reactors I Just have a hardlight shield that I deploy to hide behind
still igloo
Yeah, there's basically always another good option for any specific situation, Grinder just is a super reliable backup
Which is a nice niche for it, really
supple dome
would be nice to have a tracker for the ||kill 100 Gatekeper enemies achievement||
sick charm
I just figure I’ll get it eventually
supple dome
i wanna have everything ready so i just get the achievements i need to finish the game when i finish the playthrough i'm doing with my friends
going to continue farming tomorrow
def going to be doing more doohickeys than military weapons on my other playthrough
just trying stuff out in my old one and it's really going to be way nicer
sick charm
The flesh dimension gotta be future dlc now that I think about it
Since the Canaan set bonus gives you better deals with them
supple dome
absolute specimen
brittle comet
what does the scientist locator do btw
does it just show your friends in multiplayer
or other scientists (NPCs)
dense ember
sounds like it only detect NPC
at least from the description
only one way to find out really
oak parcel
Npcs and players
supple dome
Npc's and players yeah
dense ember
huh, apparently antejuice can be used for soup according to wiki?
when was that a thing, gonna test it out if it's real
plain cedar
Finally started playing again with my group
And I really missed this game
So hecking fun
brittle comet
went back to where ||janet and abe were|| in labs
||they even say voice lines when you use them||
brittle comet
||they even say voice lines when you use them||
also ||a tiny water cooler||
sick charm
There’s a theory that ||Sister of the Unlost and Janet are the same person||
I’ve read it and it doesn’t seem completely insane
dense ember
My god
dense ember
so, the upgraded laser pistol is strong as shit
remember how the original say it does 10 damage but it's multiple ticks of it so it's good?
the upgraded laser is the same
soft chasm
10x4 vs 30x2
soft chasm
it's a decent gun for sure
dense ember
used the damage number mod so I can like, figure what the heck is going on
fire also does damage to enemies but...
it was very, little
sick charm
oh so it does more damage total + you don't have to have as steady of aim to land all hit tick
yeah I'm definitely gonna main laser pistol as my main sidearm then
clever flower
takes a LOT of hand-cranking to recharge
still igloo
...I had no idea the energy pistol deals multiple ticks, that explains a lot
How does it work with sneak attacks?
dense ember
first hit matters
any after the enemy is alert
one of the main reason why you want big damage weapon to get that high initial double damage
sick charm
Yeah
Don’t use a shotgun as a sneak weapon btw
Just get a pipe pistol or smth and shoot the head
dense ember
oh yeah also
soft chasm
pipe pistol, night magnum, magbow, scout
dense ember
the title of the game
soft chasm
all are good sneak choices
dense ember
||I GUESS WE ARE THE ABIOTIC FACTOR||
still igloo
Magbow my beloved
Though power attacks with the Impact Hammer are my preferred poison when it comes to stealth
oak parcel
carbon pickaxe go brrrrrrrrrrrr
still igloo
How much damage does a power attack do, anyway? Always been curious how the hammer compares to the pickaxes
oak parcel
dense ember
I think power damage does double damage
which well, get doubler with sneak attack
which is why it's so stupid
also, I'm not sure if heavy attack does power attack all the time or not
they are just so goddamn slow
still igloo
I'm pretty sure it's a normal attack for LMB with heavy sharp and blunt, and an even slower power attack with RMB for heavy blunt
dense ember
is there even none blunt heavy
oak parcel
yes
still igloo
Yeah, the pickaxes
dense ember
ah right
still igloo
(Non-quantum)
oak parcel
pickaxes, crowbar 2.0, the one really early one iirc
dense ember
the blunt skill where you get to do a charging heavy attack is pretty nice
but you need to time it well
still igloo
I keep forgetting to try that attack
dense ember
also the initial peccary big stick still remains kinda worthless
since you will only get the strength to use it around manufactory anwyay
still igloo
they are just so goddamn slow
Fun trick btw, you can do the sneak roll during attack windups
Without canceling the attack
oak parcel
trying to get my group together to play is like herding cats
sick charm
I am really hoping for some sword upgrades for the future
still igloo
trying to get my group together to play is like herding cats
First you have to herd them to all play together at the same time, then you have to herd them in-game to get everyone coordinated and moving on the same objective
I feel very maternal trying to organize everyone leaving the base. "Have you eaten? Gone to the bathroom? Don't forget the lunch I packed for you. Remember, we're going to the residence sector, so make sure you're dressed warmly."
oak parcel
like half my inventory is like cot portable toilet etc. for them
dense ember
I'm hoping for more upgrade options for different tools
there is not a lot of upgrade options for manufactoring and lab sectors
still igloo
Cot (Luxurious)
still igloo
like half my inventory is like cot portable toilet etc. for them
A little poop won't kill 'em
(I also eventually gave up on carting a cot around as my armor and gear have become ever-heavier)
oak parcel
no but it will make them want to go back which is what i'm really trying to avoid
still igloo
Yep, I just try to convince them there will surely be a bathroom around the next corner until it's too late
(Bringing a crafting bench to set up a forward teleportation point also helps speed things up a lot when people do need to go back)
oak parcel
security spoilers: || i have descovered a fast way to farm night essence, x-ray lamp and laser the repear grab the night essence, enter and leave the night realm, this resets the essence cooldown and you can lamp him again||
oak parcel
its so much faster than fishing for them
sick charm
Since I do multiplayer I wonder if that will still work
oak parcel
well i was doing it on a dedicated server
oak parcel
random pro tip if you're radiation fishing, open the steam overlay click notes make it your full screen click the thumb tack set the opasity to like 70% and bam no more eye strain
oak parcel
still igloo
Homeworlds are no longer safe from assaults, bleh
sick charm
Saw soldiers in there
sick charm
You know
There are still sectors of the facility we haven’t explored yet
Like Manufacturing East
frozen narwhal
And some of the containment blocks in Labs
brittle comet
Synaptic Labs too
Remember that’s where the development of the Jotuns are
Also where the GATE NVGs were made
I wanna see the other gate facilities though, we’ve seen Cascade, Crown (flathill), Rise, Torii, Intrados, Voussoir and there’s been mention of Keystone, Arch, Finial and there’s still other parts of an arch not used
soft chasm
springer is a nothingburger
we know there's nothing especially interesting there
because it's referenced that it's just like, a small research lab for studying IS specimens indirectly
it's the one the PC and another come from
sick charm
Wonder how quickly they’ll patch the laser collector issue
Until that’s fixed I guess I’m just gonna take my time in the mushroom dimension
soft chasm
Wonder how quickly they’ll patch the laser collector issue
they figured out how to balance the deatomizer lmao
supple dome
hell yes
finally got the ||Ragnarok|| achievement
surprisingly rare
now i just need to do the ||Kylie Muir|| achievement and all the other story ones
brittle comet
Wonder how quickly they’ll patch the laser collector issue
deatomiser charge meter won't show, is that related to this
oh
laser weapons can't be charged now? lame ass bug
i just got the deatomiser :(
supple dome
yeah i tried to charge my deatomizer while while going for the achievement i was hunting and it uh
well it didn't charge
dropped all four of mine into a storage crate until they can be charged again
brittle comet
welp, for now, welcome back database terminal (i am a nice organised boy and do not need this)
As soon as I say that i misplace my drill
brittle comet
oh i didn't realise i needed inkfish for the upgraded magnum
Speaking of means of murder I like the upgraded shotgun, it's my go to for defence robots
you blast them in the back until the warning goes off
i really need to put some time into fishing i've barely done it this playthrough
brittle comet
lmao fuck is that voices of the void
it is
Alpen Signal Observatory (ASO) is mentioned being just over the mountains from Voussoir
brittle comet
yaaaaaaaaaaaay
brittle comet
finally found Carson
I think she hangs out in kitchens
like how Marion hangs out by the fog chests/any powered symphonist scarecrow
soft chasm
I think she hangs out in kitchens
yep
office spawn, labs cafeteria, and maybe residences first food court?
are where I've seen her
brittle comet
i got her in office level 3 break room
soft chasm
huh, where's that one again?
brittle comet
level 3, by the security droid charger
brittle comet
nah, same level as the flathill portal
soft chasm
that is the same level as flathill
oh wait
portal
not elevator
dumbge
not actually sure where that is then
I'll have to nose around once I'm back on pc
sick charm
once you unlock security sector she starts showing up in kitchen areas of the cascade lab too I think
right next to aquarium
met her first there
and then I could upgrade my cooking station in Torii to get her to spawn there instead
she's an invaluable source of pumpkin spice latte now
brittle comet
pick up that can
brittle comet
and then I could upgrade my cooking station in Torii to get her to spawn there i...
oh yeah i just saw that now
time to remember how to make white paint
sick charm
yah need some milk
dense ember
special spice
oak parcel
egg so good for skill farming cooking
sick charm
I can make fr-eyed eggs
brittle comet
back to reactors at long last
has anyone got any tips for exor cha
they're Still a nightmare
oak parcel
deatomizer on maximum brrr
sick charm
Deatomizers yes
still igloo
Sword and board also works
soft chasm
once you unlock security sector she starts showing up in kitchen areas of the ca...
you don't need security for that
soft chasm
okay
deatomizer is the best weapon in the game
this includes all reactor and residence-tier weapons
bring one and 1-2 laser collectors
and combat will stop existing
i am desperate to see it get nerfed
because it just has infinitely better math than every other gun
but until that day arrives, use it and no enemy will matter
brittle comet
yeah i had a feeling it was going to be that
i knew it was great against the jotuns
still igloo
I feel like the Deatomizer is fine in a vacuum, it's being able to carry laser collectors to recharge it that's the issue
oak parcel
honestly easy fix is give it durability with the repair material being cpus
also, does anyone else find the sprint attack on heavy weapons to be massivly overtuned?
sick charm
in vacuum conditions lasers do work better due to lack of atmospheric refraction
oak parcel
also, does anyone else find the sprint attack on heavy weapons to be massivly ov...
like i was consistently one shotting the hydro exors earlier
still igloo
honestly easy fix is give it durability with the repair material being cpus
Personally I'm really not a fan of this, the whole point of energy weapons is to use renewable ammo, giving it an ammo consumption (which is what durability is) is a pretty lame way to nerf it
Another option could be to make its damage partly %hp-based, so it's a dedicated tanky boy remover
oak parcel
its either that or make it and laser collectors really heavy
still igloo
Or make them lose their charge when packaged (either immediately or over time)
oak parcel
then you just carry a bunch of deatomizers
still igloo
Sure but that's fine
They weigh 10lbs and don't have much endurance
When you can't refill them a dozen times
oak parcel
same can just kicked a bit down the road
still igloo
No? There's a point at which the weight and slots aren't worth carrying too many deatomizers while still being worth using, and that can be adjusted by tuning their weight
Personally I stopped carrying around the laser collectors because it felt cheesy and I've found one deatomizer is all I want on me, usually
oak parcel
yeah i ended up stopping around the time collectors started taking assembly was trivializing too much content, but the spear exor almost made me start carrying one again
still igloo
I think somewhat we also just have different combat styles, I've not really had any issues with spear exors but Defense Bots are still my nemesis
oak parcel
they arent difficult, just annoying, not something i find fun to deal with so i just remove them with the deatomizer
defense bots are just a freeze nade and explosives
still igloo
I have an unfortunate habit of avoiding consumable throwables so instead it ends up just taking a lot of circlestrafing
woeful raptor
I've grown dependent on freeze nades
wonder if there's like
a backpack that's just
oh here's a filter list
any item in that list is teleported to a linked container
oak parcel
i mean you can favorite slots and use the distribution pad thing
still igloo
Kind of the inverse of the current favorite slots + distribution pad system?
A whitelist for teleportation instead of a blacklist
oak parcel
god what i would give for inventory automation stuff
constantly changing equipment to farm different places
still igloo
I just want them to speed up the distribution pad
clever flower
distribution pad seems to make decisions on its own, sometimes it takes five seconds of standing, sometimes looking at it from too close makes it instant
woeful raptor
distribution pad is nice and all but
when im out and about i really dont want to deal with Random Robot Oil in my inventory
or some shit
oak parcel
i'm pretty sure the distro pad is just constantly cycling through inventories and it just depends where it is in the list when you step on it
still igloo
Ohhh you mean one that teleports it away as it's picked up, from anywhere
That would be super nifty
oak parcel
30 wt
clever flower
oofe
oak parcel
i mean thats not too bad
clever flower
i'd imagine it's rougher solo but me and my co-op partner have just gotten used to carrying around a portal pad
oak parcel
however the wiki lies it is not 42 slots
clever flower
you could also not take them :p
woeful raptor
but what if i need them
clever flower
then they aren't filler!
woeful raptor
i still want them to get teleported into the forever box
still igloo
i'd imagine it's rougher solo but me and my co-op partner have just gotten used ...
I really need to get around to doing this, my group spends way too much time trying to consolidate inventories on expeditions.
clever flower
putting away those four thousand pieces of rebar is growth
woeful raptor
yeah ill just lug a portal pad around, that works
still igloo
i still want them to get teleported into the forever box
That's why I occasionally put the home base portal exit over the electrified lake
woeful raptor
my science moat
clever flower
I do hope they figure out the thing where a portal kind of forgets that it has power
soft chasm
Another option could be to make its damage partly %hp-based, so it's a dedicated...
frankly, it just needs to have its tick rate halved
50% dps that also makes it stunlock at 50% the rate would make it more balanced
oak parcel
also make alt fire not 100% efficient
actually i think i have a unique balance idea for it, leave the damage and dps as it is but you have to deploy the gun and charge it with a laser emitter
soft chasm
that's just a laser turret
oak parcel
no like you place it down, charge it and then pick it back up
like you have to deploy it to reload it
soft chasm
oh
that would solve the issue of it being convenient, but not the issue of it being the strongest
(or infinite, but there are other science weapons with reasonably convenient infinite ammo)
umbral narwhal
takes a LOT of hand-cranking to recharge
I've been using the Energy Pistol with the Purple Crystal trinket and it makes charging it super fast + passively charges it over the course of like 2 minutes.
Only ever run out in large firefights where I have to deal with lots of dudes back to back
brittle comet
i love these things
wearing the tarasque helmet means i don't see them but it's the spirit that counts
clever flower
Petition to make ||Captain Fili|| a trader, deserves free
sick charm
petition to make waterbot a trader
clever flower
And never change volume
brittle comet
Also where do you get those??
find the secret in space queen after collecting all 25 coins
brittle comet
Petition to make ||Captain Fili|| a trader, deserves free
poor thing
deserves better
||i hope they find space queen one day||
sick charm
Don’t get eaten
woeful raptor
trueee
umbral narwhal
Run like hell
sick charm
||i hope they find space queen one day||
maybe that's part of the the "stories that are left to tell" in the facility
brittle comet
i still hate cloud reactor
still igloo
Anyone know how armor works? The actual damage calculation, that is
oak parcel
ok is anyone else occasionally seeing like a shade version of the night sigil in front of pests and stuff or do i have some kind of crazy curse?
oak parcel
they really need to shift teleporter pads to earlier in the game
candid temple
You can kinda fake teleporter pads earlier by using two personal teleporters
I'm currently staring down the prospect of making a full teleporter network, which is a lot of teleporters
soft chasm
yeah it's an undertaking
still igloo
My group's done that as well, just plop down a crafting bench in a forward location and everyone has one home teleporter and one synced to the forward bench
I'm finally swapping it out for a single forward teleporter pad, so now we have a bunch of random benches we can sync the old personal teleporters to
candid temple
We haven't used the personal teleporters for FOBs, we just walk there. Helped to learn some faster routes through shortcuts.
still igloo
The shortcuts are nice but there's not one to quite everywhere
Like inside the ||Shadowgate|| compound or the ||Praetorium||
Or the far side of the dam in Hydroplant
clever flower
We've ended up with one in Shadowgate, Canaan, and the back of the Praetorium so far
( canaan is mostly for me to go get apples and whatnot without it being a while tedious thing )
also; let us grow them, pls, game
Big Ol' Garden Plot When
but also it's honestly just kind of satisfying and fun to use all the ingame shortcuts there are
especially with a jump pack, you can friggin move
still igloo
( canaan is mostly for me to go get apples and whatnot without it being a while ...
I have one on the overlook by the witch hut specifically for Lodestones
Though that's probably not needed now that we can craft them from fragments
clever flower
i love how scientific and nonsensical everything is and then we just shape and bake Lodestones in the oven like a middle school art class
sick charm
with a bit of cement
soft chasm
Though that's probably not needed now that we can craft them from fragments
it's still extremely useful
because you need full lodestones for telepads
and glue is kind of annoying to get
fishing takes forever and sucks ass, even if it's busted
and making the glue is also kind of annoying
still igloo
Good point, not having to deal with that is worth it
Wait cracked Lodestones don't take glue
soft chasm
do they not?
what's the recipe for a smooshed lodestone?
oh huh
just honey and cement
still igloo
Honey is also kind of a pain though
soft chasm
honey's fine
especially once you've got reactors access
you just have one of your teleporters at the exor village
since you need to be there anyway to keep a transcendium supply, and it's a free neutrino + power cell every reset
still igloo
Oh, just harvesting it naturally? Makes sense, I looked at beekeeping once and decided it wasn't for me
soft chasm
so you just swoop in, grab some antejuice in a barrel or two, swoop out
and then your 15 hives cost 0 upkeep
and you just grab them for 5 honey each whenever you give a shit
which doesn't have to be often
and you don't need a hammer because the power glove is amazing
still igloo
Hm, I should deputize my friend with the beekeeper's suit to set some up
soft chasm
so i just have a crate with a bee suit and the honey + comb
and every time i want honey (or am burning time for no reason and am fine doing it) i just swap the bee suit on, click e a bunch of times, glove them all, and depost a stack of honey
the only pain is getting queen bees from the natural hives
but there's one in far garden and a couple in the mycofields
sick charm
Can you just use fish bones to make glue
still igloo
I have a few queen bees in the freezer already
soft chasm
Can you just use fish bones to make glue
yes, it's just that fishing is annoying and gluemaking takes time
still igloo
I don't really use honey for anything right now though
soft chasm
this started with a discussion on getting mats for cracked lodestones
which use honey
other than that, the notable uses are crystal darts, tech bandages, and crunchy crystal
but the last means fishing in encroachment
however
it is a ridiculously good food
esp. early
unkempt lily
simply personal teleporter all over the place
I had something like 12 or 14 personal teleporters on my pre-update save
still igloo
My group has moved to a diet of veggie stew and salad wraps
Since those are entirely growable
And with moisture teleporters take no upkeep
soft chasm
cosmato salad wraps are fuckbusted yeah
clever flower
Truly don't know how they've retained those stats after even earliest food updates
still igloo
Well, now they summon the Leyak
clever flower
Even before containment! That's just 'sweep an x-ray slightly more often'
and then afterward it's just Free Buff
Wouldn't mind if more things had secondaries, pies are cute decoration and whatall but you need a whole damn one to fill up
clever flower
I assume everyone has The Leyak Box full of 100 essence
sometimes it's fun to pick them up and see how irradiated you get
little elephant's foot, just for fun
woeful raptor
summoning the leyak without the containment is a buff since i think it resets its natural appearance timer right?
so you can just pop it before doing something that might make enough noise to cover the breathing that tips you off that she's here
clever flower
the real debuff is Utterly Sauceless Vegetable Wrap seems like a damn nightmare
the vocal work on the breathing is so good
i hate it so goddamn much
leyak might be one of my favorite survival game mechanics like, ever
still igloo
It particularly shines in that specific period when you can only afford one x-ray lamp across four people
still igloo
Only one person being able to see it is great
"Surely they're just doing a bit, right? ...oh, they're dead. ...oh no."
still igloo
oak parcel
For bees I just grab a barrel of anteverse juice from the mines it lasts like forever and I just have 2 hives set up near it
brittle comet
back to gale reactor at long last
I got the uhhh, hard light sword
the one that needs a shield gen gate defense rune digital gold and mystagogue eyes
candid temple
Hard light sword is amazing
oak parcel
i hope the first dlc they make has a gravity gun
sick charm
vacuum not doing it for yah?
oak parcel
i need to yeet sawblades at people
but like
not the grinder
bigger sawblades
an boxes
an bodies
not to mention moving bodies off of the fucking ammo spawns
:ε
vagrant thicket
still igloo
Is there a way to disable the trajectory predictor for throwing? It doesn't seem to be accurate for the ||Quantum Pick||
oak parcel
i miss the old one
brittle comet
||The Order has fucking M2 Bradleys and hasn't used them this entire time||
sick charm
||The Order has fucking M2 Bradleys and hasn't used them this entire time||
i mean
kinda hard to ||bring a tank into an underground facility||
brittle comet
kinda hard to ||bring a tank into an underground facility||
||they brought all the damn trucks||
||reactors, manufacturing, research (the lobby bit with the first cart you see), all have trucks||
anyway i polished my shotgun
didn't really notice much
oak parcel
ye buh imagine the overpressure damage from a tank in an underground facility
oak parcel
anyway i polished my shotgun
didn't really notice much
oh you'll know when it happens
brittle comet
always was my favourite too
The upgraded romag is nice though
and there's another tier which i'll have soon™
anyway i need to get a skink
oak parcel
i cant use the romag because of the reload
brittle comet
yeah that really annoys me
but the upgraded one does acid damage so it's really useful for caretakers, especially jotuns, it's one of the few things that staggers them
oak parcel
OH
a warning to all
dont touch the bio-fusion imitator for a while
like dont even craft it
it seems to be causing a bug where you cant bandage or splint yourself
might be limited to multiplayer
workarounds are limited
removing/changing suit/trinkets sometimes works
oak parcel
every day the moving box gets closer to an axe tothe face
clever flower
They really need to cut his collision size in like half
oak parcel
it needs soft collision at most preferable none
dense ember
It needs to not stick right to my face or can be pished around
When does it spawns actually, I went through flathill in my new playthrough and it took quite a while until the box appears
clever flower
I didn't know he was going to appear and got jumpscared so bad loading into an old save, I haven't rightly gone through the game again from the start :|a
supple dome
going insane with how my current playthrough is progressing
playing with friends and things are uh
going slow
plain cedar
With my group of 5 I feel like we're going way too fast
plain cedar
I have a need to explore every nook and cranny meticulously and loot everything
There will be nothing left of GATE Cascade by the time I'm done
brittle comet
if you hate the moving box you will go to hell before you die
he is the best
even if he bodyblocks me
supple dome
We just got to the leyak basically
brittle comet
||I wish I could package nibbles :(||
||i feel bad leaving him in wakeman's closet||
umbral narwhal
Man my friends and I have been through ||each of the four|| Reactor Sections a bunch and still haven't found any ||keys to open those Runic Chests||
soft chasm
Man my friends and I have been through ||each of the four|| Reactor Sections a b...
really? those mfs drop like candy
umbral narwhal
Yep, not a single one so far
soft chasm
10% from the bots
woeful raptor
is there enemy drop setting on the sandbox panel thing
soft chasm
so farm them if you want to
or you could go for the the mystagogue that spawns in the data farm
umbral narwhal
I went with a Potato and cleared ||Dusk and Gale|| just now, still nothing.
We've got like 60+ Arcane Scrap now and still no keys.
umbral narwhal
Oh yeah I salvaged the two Corrupted Bots in the Mushroom reactor, haven't seen any others yet.
soft chasm
go back there
and keep going back there
it's a fast farm if you set up a forward operating base by the trams
and you need a trillion corrupted CPUs anyway
umbral narwhal
Yep, I'm thinking of building a shredder of some kind. Maybe a set of laser turrets given electricity doesn't seem to do much to these bots.
soft chasm
just bring a deatomizer
it turns them to dust
as it does every single enemy in the game, because the deatomizer is monstrously overtuned
umbral narwhal
We've got farms using ||Teslas in Labs and Hydroplant, and Choppinators in Office.|| so we'll likely end up with some in Reactors as well
soft chasm
Yep, I'm thinking of building a shredder of some kind. Maybe a set of laser turr...
also yes lmfao corrupted bots are immune to lightning
umbral narwhal
lol that explains a fair bit. Been using the electro mace and charged shield and they're ludicrously tough.
soft chasm
use laser turrets or a deatomizer, or a huge pile of lodestone bolts/discs
since they're weak to lodestone
umbral narwhal
It's easy when my friends and I hit them up as a group because every enemy gets deatomized in seconds from 4 seperate beams. I tend to want to travel lighter for solo farming runs.
Been running the Companion Core and Exor Set.
oak parcel
i do 1 rocket and finish with melee
brittle comet
i beat the game
||i knew cahn was not to be trusted||
||what the fuck did we do||
brittle comet
||what the fuck did we do||
||we caused the fucking roaring https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KnobRGy_Is||
sick charm
||what the fuck did we do||
Apparently ||we broke down the barrier between anteversed and now the anteverse 2 is annexing our own world||
supple dome
science
my friends have opted to attempt physics to solve this issue
it is
not working
sick charm
instead of just building two plan bridges across?
sick charm
my god
oak parcel
why would you build bridges?
sick charm
illusion of safety
oak parcel
i hope blunt weapons get some love in future updates
sick charm
i hope blunt weapons get some love in future updates
I want gravity hammers
soft chasm
i want the woodsman's axe to get an upgrade path
that makes it a real and strong weapon
and not just a cutesy little throwaway
supple dome
i got the sword and i am looking forward to ||making it into a laser katana|| at some point
sick charm
i want the woodsman's axe to get an upgrade path
Yeah
candid temple
since they're weak to lodestone
Lodehammer also works surprisingly well. Once their shield is down, the holy fire stunlocks them
oak parcel
spoiler: wiki weapons list
i mean just look at the disparity
theres so many more and more interesting sharp weapons
i do like that throwing weapons are surprisingly strong (+2 damage per level us very nice) but i wouldnt mind a few side grades
and mechanically throwing still needs some work, not only is the like aim guide kind of annoying (not to mention inaccurate) but you drop out of "throw mode" seemingly at random
sick charm
I would like some upgrades for the cane sword too
soft chasm
theres so many more and more interesting sharp weapons
unforchies there are exactly two melee weapons in the game
(they're both swords)
((there's a third and it's the quantum pick, but my agendaposting must continue))
oak parcel
Carbon pickaxe would like a word
candid temple
Quantum pick is a ranged weapon
soft chasm
true
oak parcel
Carbon pick + sprint attack + sneak attack will kill any non bot non boss before reactors and half the bots to tbh
soft chasm
spears are fuckbusted until reactors, but then they kind of hit a wall and are replaced totally with the two swords and the picks
and the impact and lodehammers are also very strong until then
but light blunt suffers terribly and there's always just a total best in slot weapon type
i really want to see some melee variety improvements
make the clubs actually good
and more of the heavies
oak parcel
I really hope next patch fixes the ailments bug and balances the heavy weapon sprint attack
soft chasm
and then don't abandon hammers at reactors...
and let the lodespear upgrade again, etc. etc.
i have a very large gear balancing wishlist
oak parcel
if they gave the explosive hammer different flavors of cartridges it could be an end game weapon
soft chasm
this game is so close to perfect that every way in which it isn't is glaring and painful
oak parcel
i think other than the deatomizer there arent too many weapon nerfs needed which is nice
soft chasm
hardlight saber and deatomizer
oak parcel
yeah
soft chasm
need to take some heavy hits
oak parcel
i still feel like the hardlight should be a heavy weapon
candid temple
Hardlight is heavy in the same way as lodehammer
soft chasm
it needs to be less perfect at blocking
it's ridiculous that it's just the best shield in the game
oak parcel
oh fun fact its not just blocking, its redirecting
soft chasm
i know
oak parcel
i learned this by accidentaly killing a sniper with it