Hunter the Parenting Pit

[bright aurora]

Because he knows what the consequences are

[weak phoenix]

Yeah, with that.

[bright aurora]

So well

[wicked surge]

I think it's also a mixture of trauma and big D's parenting

[weak phoenix]

I'm gonna call it.

Door made a command decision that got fucked due to Blanks showing up in his sector.

[wicked surge]

there's a reason the word choice for D in doors head is the same word choice as what he said to Marckus in ep 3

[wicked surge]

I suspect door got hit with presence and charmed into telling someone something he shouldn't have

[weak phoenix]

_>

Oh my god

He told his wife

No wonder she showed up in the beginning.

[wicked surge]

because for all his bluntness he is in arc 1 at least intentionally saying old mining days instead of EOD

he has clearly learned the value of compartmentalization and subterfuge even if he isn't a natural talent

[bright aurora]

Oh yeah Door clearly projects his perception of D when he speaks to Markus and Boy sometimes

Because he looks up to his dad that much, even fully aware that D fucked him and Markus up here and there

[wicked surge]

I think that's less adoration but more empathy when I look at the horse episode.

I think that's because of Door being a parent. Door looks at his son and figuring out what he can and can't do and the fear that overtakes him at the idea of him being hurt, and how he'd give his life to save him and he can understand why D handles Marckus the way he does.

[bright aurora]

It is empathy

He clearly respects his father for his parenting skills and his ability to handle watching his children as they walk into danger

[weak phoenix]

Yep

And said respect is sorta gnawing at him internally

mixed in with presumably his divorced or estranged wife adding to it.

[bright aurora]

Even knowing that D made errors as a father sometimes and that him and Marckus didn’t come out of that upbringing unscathed

[wicked surge]

honestly I think the question of whether Door lives or dies comes down to if he can extend his empathy to people beyond his family.

[bright aurora]

He’s a very well realized depiction of an adult son who loves and respects his father even knowing that there were some pretty grisly mistakes made in D’s parenting process

[wicked surge]

like... take the garou. If anyone would understand the need to protect your family at all costs even if meant shooting first and asking questions later? it's Door.

[weak phoenix]

Yeah

Honestly, D should've maybe told the family that they could trust some of the more...interesting side of things.

But that probably would need to be coached in "Trust but verify".

[wicked surge]

Yep.

[bright aurora]

The thing is that D is ruled by fear

Understandably!

[wicked surge]

absolutely

[weak phoenix]

And that would be hard due to everyone's...secret world trauma before the show started.

And that

Also that

[wicked surge]

the entire family is for all their desire to do good is being undone by their fear

[bright aurora]

But he makes mistakes and they all revolve around his fear, fear of losing his children, fear of saying too much, fear that he’ll make the mistake that damns another one of his sons

[wicked surge]

well except Marckus and boy

but a large portion of the family are motivated by fear rn

[bright aurora]

And Kitten

[wicked surge]

... he went into a depressive spiral about how his future was over in the last audio log while his anger was sublimating for his fesr

he is terrified of losing marckus

even D had to tell him to cool it

[weak phoenix]

In this case, two fears. Fear of the blanks and the fear of losing his husband.

Which probably might go crazy if he has to spill the beans to Marky Mark about certain stuff.

[bright aurora]

He did and he is but the thing I notice about Kitten is that he consistently steps forward even when he’s afraid

[wicked surge]

... Matilda also made several steps toward Fatigues jugular when she ripped him apart

and you know fear of him being a stolen moon was a part of that

[bright aurora]

He went for the long shot play against Pyotr, he doesn’t back down from the truth and knowing more, etc.

[wicked surge]

he is brave

[bright aurora]

He’s really brave, it is kind of his big virtuous character trait

[wicked surge]

but here he needs to act in a way counter to those instincts. sometimes the best thing he can do is not throw himself into a fight. not ally with the coalition. but he is doing that.

and that will likely come back to bite him and D big

[bright aurora]

Which is why I guess I just wanna stick up for him and say yeah he’s afraid but he has repeatedly looked fear in the eye and still taken that step forward into the unknown despite being afraid

[wicked surge]

normally I would commend that. taking steps into the arms of the coalition is not what I would commend given we know they're pentex affiliates

[bright aurora]

Yeah that’s the thing

I mea

[wicked surge]

if he wants to give an inspiring speech to the garou

let him

[bright aurora]

The hunters don’t really have a great point of reference to evaluate the Garou vs Coalition relative badness rn

[wicked surge]

oh I know

[bright aurora]

So it’s understandable

[wicked surge]

they're gonna learn the hard way

nothing about how they act is ever "god so dumb why would they do that"

it makes the inevitable tragedies all the more painful

[bright aurora]

Need more Mr Palmer

Absolutely fascinating character

[weak phoenix]

Yeah

And this episode actually gives us a small why about why Palmer's bodyguard was so aggro during the plane thing.

That girl can put the pounds away without it even showing.

Which makes sense

considering all of the augs/drugs that Pentex probably has wired up in their executive level security.

Though I guess I would be hangry 24/7 considering the context.

[bright aurora]

I mean, that or she was understandably in a wretched mental state after dropping all them burgs

It’s all I can do not to cry after dropping like one piece of food I wanted to eat when I’m hungry, I can’t imagine how devastating it is to drop a whole huge group order like that

[weak phoenix]

It probably was both

"Ugggggh, I'm so hungry from the augs"/"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. MY BURGERS!"

If Palmer wasn't there, Blair would've thrown hands with a child and his father.

[frail citrus]

Building on this, he isn't fully wrong. Monsters do try to play on boys better nature, but boy isn't wrong either. He knows that the world isn't black and white, and we know that as viewers too

[weak phoenix]

Okay, so, question.

Is the Liquid Demonseed soda an actual canon thing in WOD?

Because that is just blatant if someone was in the know.

[simple hill]

But people aren’t in the know

[weak phoenix]

True

but that's sorta weird

[wicked surge]

yep. the solution is genuinely to investigate fully. verify if the trust is deserved.

what we should note is that Boy did that. door didn't. and that's a difference in character that could lead to friction

those two need to be thorough

for both reasons

[wicked surge]

also tbf it'd be like if monster killer brew actually turned you into a serial killer. if you didn't have proof it was real it'd sound so ridiculous right?

it's the "just a joke" defense applied to product names

[weak phoenix]

I see

Oh man

Wasn't there lore about how there are empowered serial killers in WOD or NWOD?

[frail citrus]

there was in CofD for sure

but that doesn't mean it isn't in HtP

Voy's said that they've done that already

[weak phoenix]

All righty

[wicked surge]

I believe you're thinking of slashers which originated in hunter

nwod

the good one

[near schooner]

damn it

the burger bit at the beginning has endeared me to blair the bodyguard lady

she was so distraught after dropping them all...

[wicked surge]

girl failure our beloved

[frail citrus]

She's on so many drugs

just so many

[wicked surge]

enough speed and meth that she can eat 36 cheeseburgers while staying in shape for combat

[frail citrus]

It's weird that we can map out a night so thoroughly

like there's a rough timeline on a pentex hit

[sick saddle]

i kind of cannot wait until Door or Boy gets to actually tell Big D what happened at 0'Tolley's, and we get to see if he knows anything about what ||Francis turned out to be||

[simple hill]

I doubt big d knows

Since he seems pretty unaware of werewolf and wyrm lore

[fathom kettle]

It's possible he's encountered the Wyrm's servants a few times but doesn't understand they're connected. He might just think they're related creatures.

[wicked surge]

big D on anything non vampire related;
https://youtu.be/EQ8x7T5buWU?si=_IsirLPc7clXqt1u

[radiant drum]

https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Liquid_DemonSeed

It and Dank Stank are both from VTMB

[weak phoenix]

_>

[short cradle]

my Babalu

[radiant drum]

Babalu sounds like a knock of labubu.

[warped portal]

I love Blair’s breakdown

[slow bay]

Her burgers 😔

[weak phoenix]

I would breakdown too when my stomach is on overdrive due to my employer's healthcare package.

[simple hill]

Wonder what kind of augments Pentex gave her

[weak phoenix]

Well, considering she was trying to eat 36 hamburgers.

I'm gonna say speed and strength augs.

[warped portal]

[extreme burger despair]

[slow bay]

Admittedly, we don't know if all of those burgers were for her

But they probably were

[weak phoenix]

Yeah, there is no way Palmer would eat working class food.

[simple hill]

Hmm

[solemn lintel]

Theres ross

[simple hill]

Palmer isn’t like

[solemn lintel]

Or

Whatever his name is

[simple hill]

The Blacklaws

[weak phoenix]

It's Ross

[solemn lintel]

Okay it’s ross

[frail citrus]

oh yeah the big guy who might be D-spawn

[simple hill]

He’s a manager at Pentex isn’t he?

[slow bay]

He eats it out of brand loyalty

[solemn lintel]

He’s a big guy

[frail citrus]

for you

[solemn lintel]

He could eat some burgers

[frail citrus]

sorry

[weak phoenix]

True

[simple hill]

Would black spiral dancers eat Pentex burgers

[weak phoenix]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[simple hill]

More I think about it

More I think attacking the local werewolf pack with Pentex allies might be one of the worst options available

Understandable action for sure

But still not a good idea

It’ll fully escalate this relatively minor conflict to an all out war

[weak phoenix]

I mean it probably would've been escalated either way?

The 'archs, Cams, and 'bats in Norfolk would have started shit with each other

[simple hill]

I meant with the werewolves specifically

Ofc the vampires are gonna war haha

[weak phoenix]

And that's before we add in the entire dysfunction function within the Cams.

Oh yeah

[simple hill]

Do the hunters really want to fight a multi front war against vampires and werewolves at the same time

[weak phoenix]

The Weres getting poked is the hibernating bear waking up and killing everybody.

[wicked surge]

"... augs? I just gave Blair meth. it's cheaper."

[wicked surge]

probably not but the werewolves did kinda kill one of the hunters own and kidnap another so that is in diplomatic terms what we call casus belli

[weak phoenix]

If only people sat down together and talked.

[split raven]

wdym, Fatigue just did that

https://preview.redd.it/when-you-need-to-sneeze-mid-conversation-v0-nrpg5s5jrhtc1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5756e19228166acad5a9898bd2f814c980591cfa

[solemn lintel]

It’s about to get so much worse lmao

[compact copper]

I’m all in on door dying

My life savings are bet on it

And Voy, I know you’re in this chat

You wouldn’t make me go bankrupt?

[split raven]

inb4 Voy responds with Togo

[compact copper]

Probably

[green geyser]

Did Togo make you make the bet?

[compact copper]

There’s no diplomacy with Togo

There’s only stakes and skewers and hammers and nails

[compact copper]

KILL IT

KILL IT

KILL IT

SKEWER IT TO THE WALL AND DRIVE A NAIL THROUGH ITS HEAD

CRUSH IT UNTIL THERES NOTHING LEFT

[green geyser]

Sorry bad joke

[compact copper]

Nah it’s fine lol

[compact copper]

AN ARMY OF THEM

SLASH AND SLASH UNTIL IT DONE

BREAK THEIR LEGS

DESTROY THEIR SKULLS

NONE OF THEM CAN BE ALLOWED TO LIVE

[simple hill]

they fly though so there's no point to slashing their legs

[weak phoenix]

looks above

https://tenor.com/view/혼파망-피자-당황-community-chaos-gif-16635574

[simple hill]

What if vampires do protect us from predators

[weak phoenix]

I mean...

Not really

That was supposed to be the Were's job.

But they fucked it up during the war of rage.

[split raven]

the only predators they're protecting us from are other vampires tbh

[fathom kettle]

And... barely?

[wicked surge]

the werewolves committed a genocide on such a large scale living in vampire controlled cities was a safer option for human civilization

[weak phoenix]

Yep

And then before that the war of rage

that basically saw the Were's kill or nearly kill all of the other Shifters that were vital to defending Gaia from the Wyrm.

And anyone along with their descendants who survived are either in hiding, hold active blood feuds, refuse to do anything to help Gaia, or are actively working with the Wyrm.

Or if anyone tries to work with Were's, it very much is under "I will bail at any moment if it looks you're going to kill me."

Why the fuck do the Were's fuck themselves over all the time?

[wicked surge]

in universe; genuinely because they are short term thinkers. they don't have vampire level life spans, they rarely make it to old age, and they often fight enough opponents just to protect their home that the fight response is the strongest response and their rage only amplifies that tendency.

out of universe; they're a pastiche of leftist movements and patriarchal culture, combining elements of toxic hierarchies and the struggles of leftist organizing and tent building which is often imploded by acting to relieve pain now

[weak phoenix]

oh wow

Obviously the vampires are power structures that refuse to change.

[wicked surge]

vampire power structures refuse to change because they're commentaries on American political systems being run by the elderly and only handing over power when forced to.

Werewolf power structures are the equivalent of your average anarchs. for all the tribes and history most of these people are gonna be dead before they're 60.

that means they don't really have a lot of time to analyze the structural flaws, and the ones most able to change it are often the ones who benefit the most from a system where beating the shit out of the other guy wins the argument

it's fun social commentary

[split raven]

https://bskyx.app/profile/saltyjub.bsky.social/post/3mar4ag4bhc2g

[simple hill]

Btw do you think big d might be involved in vitae trafficking himself as a side gig

Because Kevin was snacking on a bag of vitae in one of his possibly canon scenes

[solemn lintel]

bag of blood yeah

[wicked surge]

D knows enough about it where I suspect he's fought against those who do or partaken in it himself given the level of knowledge and griping he has when talking about not being able to sell the licks vitae.

Kitten assumes it's part of why D"s so against Marckus learning how ghouls work before the Anton reveal - D has been through those addictions and is not a fan.

I will also note D's ability to handle copious amounts of narcotics and indulging in DMT and still being relatively cognizant lines up with Chapman's description of Heroin being nothing compared to vitae

[simple hill]

There are also rare breed of ghouls that are extremely resistant to being blood bonded or dominated I think?

[wicked surge]

there are revenant families who have their traits I don't know them well but iirc D doesn't line up with any of them.

he could just be unbondable some licks and humans are like that but it's exceptionally rare

also given D's insistence in the dangers of it when it comes to Marckus and having not tried to take any from Kevin or the remaining licks in secret I assume he doesn't want to risk it

although the fact they have been hunting other vampires off screen, including a thin blood does raise questions of what he's done with their vitae

[simple hill]

They appear to have been specifically capturing vampires

And there’s an unknown party imprisoned in a dungeon close to Kevin’s

And it seems like big d was handling the vampire prisoners until recently

When he allowed Markus to handle the thee captured licks minus Kevin

If he wanted to gather up some vitae he had plenty of opportunity

[wicked surge]

yep yep

it would also explain his apparent age as opposed to his actual age vis a vis door, and his insistence that the hunt cannot stop

[unique ermine]

honestly tracks as a sort of parallel to the fatigues

[green geyser]

Not very familiar with WoD, but I imagine Kevin (a vampire) working directly with Hunters is a rarity right?

Even moreso since the alliance is mutual

[unique ermine]

i mean i’m pretty sure even just taking a vampire captive is pretty rare, even more so when it’s not a big organisation that has set procedures for this

[fossil pollen]

Hunters and Vampires using each other isn't all that rare for one reason or another but the mutual arrangement is fairly unique

if Kevin gets caught by his Sire, he's getting dusted, so if he can use the hunters to clear out the locals to make it safer for him, that's a win; meanwhile, the Hunters can use his valuable insider knowledge as a source of rare intel, as well as keeping their cop 'friend' in line with the Blood Bond

[wicked surge]

extremely. the usual hunter to vampire arrangement is "kill this threat first then each other after" or if you're the camarilla,

"we can manipulate the NSA. nothing bad ever happens to the camarilla!"

[weak phoenix]

"Okay, so, I have an idea."

"This better not be the Ghoul super soldier project again."

"No, no, that died in testing. What if...We were to have our ghouls in government create a taskforce against our enemies?"

"...You want to make a Camarilla sponsored hunter team."

"Yes."

"You have thought about this haven't you?"

"Absolutely."

"It does have some appeal. Let me see how it gains traction in the next council meeting."

-- How Task Force Valkyrie was created (probably).

[solemn lintel]

It’s not unheard of as a story beat, since vampires are often player characters and players are good at convincing people Who have good intentions to maybe join teams

But it also is probably pretty rare in the context of the setting itself

[split raven]

player characters are, by definition, exceptional

[solemn lintel]

A little

Point I’m making is it’s not impossible it’s happened before

Just, vampires are secretive by nature and humans are fragile

[simple hill]

In most hunter related games there’s at least one or two vampires willing to make overtures to the hunters

Usually so that they can help their personal political ambitions

By having them hunt their enemies

[split raven]

Yeah the point I was trying to make was that if anybody is going to do something unusual or rare, it's a PC
But also like Vamps and Hunters working together is far from unheard of, especially if the Vamp(s) can hide it or either is good about not killing people or only drinks from animals or blood bags

There is always a bigger threat than a vampire, they're not exactly known for combat prowess

[weak phoenix]

"Why. Are. We. Working. With. A. Leech."

"Simple. We have Shaggy Dogs in the AO and we need the support."

"But a fucking a leech. A leech?

"I don't like it either but you cannot pick your allies. Learned that the hard way in the Sandbox."

"You have something right? In case the sewer leech goes feral?"

"Always do."

[ancient crescent]

https://bsky.app/profile/puzzleheadedpool96.bsky.social/post/3mb42kio4uk27

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Bluesky · Dec 29, 2025, 5:00 AM

[solemn lintel]

Like god dislocating one of Jacob’s bones…

[gusty urchin]

the one good thing that dude ever did

[solemn lintel]

Huh

[fluid prism]

Is that Midna

[simple hill]

The yule goat

Pentex wants to keep the goat stable

So it must be destroyed

[solemn lintel]

Yeah

[compact copper]

Midna gaming

[fathom kettle]

Is the goat some sort of Wyrm demon.

[graceful jay]

No

the goat is a funny thing a local community wants to do

[split raven]

its a thing Gavle does for christmas every year, since 1966, and its become an unofficial tradition for someone to try and burn it, or otherwise see it destroyed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gävle_goat

like, 43 out of the 60 years its been a thing, its been destroyed

[wicked surge]

Interesting theorizing in this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/huntertheparenting/comments/1q9zb5l/perhaps_some_clues_about_the_shucks/

[gusty urchin]

https://old.reddit.com/r/huntertheparenting/comments/1qd0fzu/custom_magic_card_design/?ref=share&ref_source=link

[weak phoenix]

New video!

We find out what was the fucking airplane briefcase was about.

https://youtu.be/nd5hvL2LTcA

And this is also canon

This CEO is a freak

[wicked surge]

Being a member of the ruling executive class requires being a freak by default tbh

[weak phoenix]

Even funnier

the CEO? He's a canon freak.

He's real in WOD.

Or OWOD?

[ancient crescent]

He's also a Black Spiral Dancer

[weak phoenix]

Oh my god

I love this

[ancient crescent]

https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Mike_Dragons-Wrath

[short cradle]

this guy is in the book??

[weak phoenix]

yes

[solemn lintel]

holy shit

[green geyser]

I cant believe hes canon

[ancient crescent]

I love the implication that they shot down the plane with a missile not because it was the best option, but because it was directly mandated by management

[simple hill]

literally became|| director by killing everyone else||

i'm guessing his ||mad ramblings also contain kernels of truth?||

[wicked surge]

Norfolk Wizard Game new ep in Audio only form is now available. I haven't listened to it yet, but for tose waiting: Its here.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/update-02-28-and-151862494?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=web_share

[frail citrus]

👀

[graceful jay]

So

There was a Tumblr shipping poll for gay ships and it was Mitten vs those kids from Stranger Things

And Mittens won because the Byler people did voter fraud????

https://www.tumblr.com/alfabusa/810634492189523968?source=share

Alfabusa

ROUND 2:

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march-gay-shipping-madness...

Tumblr · Mar 9, 2026, 6:34 PM

[solemn lintel]

WHAT

[gusty urchin]

Lmao

[graceful jay]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-mario-start-luigi-won-gif-14206801

[green geyser]

LMAO

[surreal crown]

Mittens also had more total votes

[unique ermine]

honestly fitting way for them to win

[fathom kettle]

The Stranger Thing kids is one side though.

So they should lose points.

[wicked surge]

luck sphere stocks; rising

[graceful jay]

https://bsky.app/profile/eliphusz.bsky.social/post/3mgqhhjyrhk2g

Eliphus (@eliphusz.bsky.social)

Chlorine-free Grimal
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Bluesky · Mar 10, 2026, 10:51 PM

[solemn lintel]

HOLY SHIT

OH MY GOS Hfhdkjsahfkads

i love herrrrr

i want to dunk her into a vat of evil goo

[hidden lava]

the single toof

[graceful jay]

Thats the chlorine yeah

[solemn lintel]

we could go even more evil

gatorade perhaps

[short cradle]

oh she's blonde

[ebon jewel]

detox grimal

[frail citrus]

Unsettling

[weak phoenix]

Be funny if this what a timeskip Grimal looks like.

Still into anime and manga, but isn't a total weeb about it.

[deft urchin]

The yaoi paddle has been retired to the mantle piece

[patent cargo]

And then, late at night, she gets a call. One last job. The paddle must swing once more...

[graceful jay]

https://bsky.app/profile/unboxt.bsky.social/post/3mh2aw3nbxc2p

[solemn lintel]

LMAO YEAH

[unique ermine]

WOAH

[desert token]

I made a stand for Kevin, but my artistic skills are still in early development, so i will just put this description and a bad edited image.
Power( Determined by willpower) : B
Speed( Determined by quick thinking) : C
Range( Determined by foresight) : B+
Durability( Determined by how much they can endure temptation) : C-
Precision( Determined by critical thinking skills) : B+
Potential( Self explanatory) : A
Kevins stand, Rust in Peace(named after the megadeath album), is not a particularly traditional stand, and is actually an ability dependant stand that relies on dominate. It manifests itself as an eastern dragon with red glowing eyes, with dominate being active constantly, without drawbacks as long as the stand is activated. When one or multiple targets have dominate applied on them, regardless of how effective it is, Kevin can choose to place max 4 active conditions on them. These conditions and their effects last until theyre switched, the stand ability is deactivated by the user or the target is dead or incapacitated. These conditions explicitly cant kill their targets, regardless of their lethality( so Kevin cant just kill directly with his ability). The number of conditions is split between targets, so if Kevin has 4 active conditions placed on someone like Ross( lets say slowed, no regeneration, no durability, brain hemorrhage), he will have to deactivate one of them to put one on Palmer.
The stand has a pretty long effective range from the user, which can help Kevin use dominate from another angle or send the stand out to attack someone. While non stand users cant see the stand itself, they can see its red eyes.

[warped portal]

https://youtu.be/ovWqTLziSck?si=tkCMfidelazjFn6S

[solemn lintel]

YEAHHHH ITS OUT

[weak phoenix]

Here we go

Polybi (tried to do something stupid with Polibus).

of Evil

[radiant drum]

FISHING the T R O U T

Unrelated Meat Crime would be a killer band name.

[warped portal]

I sure love FISHING for TROUT

[restive carbon]

probably has been discussed before but

are we sure kevin can even use blood sorcery?

iirc he only used disciplines three times,and every time it was high level dominate

[solemn lintel]

He is also pretty high level.
So I dunno. Maybe he did just spec everything into dominate, or maybe he has low levels of blood sorcery.

He probably has the potential to learn it.

The again, I don’t know how VtM sheets work as a requiem girlie

[split raven]

he used Auspex to find the lamp in the plane crash iirc

[wicked surge]

we are not and it is entirely possible he has never been taught it entirely because he was rarely in favor with the tremere and thus had to learn dominate as a way to get by instead

older editions had a thaumaturgic inept flaw

v5 does not have this flaw but you can still be a tremere who doesn't know just because no one taught you

[restive carbon]

he is the greaat and mighty kevin,a powerful vampire

...hypnotist

[wicked surge]

I mean no he's more than a hypnotist

standing reminder if D hadn't gotten him using DMT there's good odds he'd have killed the entire family

[weak phoenix]

Yeah.

Out of everyone in the North-Norfolk Sabbat.

[wicked surge]

he is a 5th level dominate user in v5 standards

[weak phoenix]

Kevin was the strongest

[wicked surge]

that is literally a near mastery of the discipline only outdone by non player vampire powers

[weak phoenix]

2nd strongest was the Nossi. But, well, he got blown up after eating everyone.

[wicked surge]

pyotr was second strongest after the dibalerie

weirdly ape was probably the strongest single oneovial outside Kevin

[weak phoenix]

Animal strength does that

[wicked surge]

proteam

ape boy don't get that native

[restive carbon]

a very powerful hypnotist!

[weak phoenix]

With a gun!

[wicked surge]

and neither Rick or Pyotr had it innate

[weak phoenix]

Because that ad was canon

So, The Great and Mighty Kevin has a Hand Cannon!

[wicked surge]

yep

[graceful jay]

Oh diablerized Pyotor would have killed the fuck out of Kevin

[weak phoenix]

Oh

[bright aurora]

Pyotr at max power was way worse than any individual member of that pack

[weak phoenix]

Well, great he's dead then because a diablerized Pyotor would've been a nightmare for everyone else.

[bright aurora]

Diablerie, when it succeeds, gives you IMMENSE strength

[weak phoenix]

"God dam it. He's got the cannibal strength. Shoot him! Shoot him now!"

[bright aurora]

it doesn't just grant the diablerist a lot of the strength of the people they consumed, it also massively thickens the blood by concentrating all of what their victims had into the perpetrator

which makes all their Disciplines that much stronger

[graceful jay]

Its mainly due to the fact that Obfuscate Potence is a very powerful combo when your opponent is a stick wizard bastard

[restive carbon]

he ate a brujah and a gangrel,and already was a nosferatu

double potence+ protean was probably enough for him to lift the golden goose

[bright aurora]

between all that extra Discipline XP and also a massive spike in Blood Potency, diablerist Pyotor was definitely boutta tear all the hunters up and then go on an unhinged feeding frenzy thanks to suddenly needing WAY more food

[weak phoenix]

If he did that

how hard would've it taken the Carmilla or Anarch's to take him down?

[bright aurora]

you should not talk shit on the Cammies (where they can hear it), their rank and file are pretty whatever but the people they send to kill you in a Blood Hunt are remarkably dangerous

[restive carbon]

any random coterie probably wouldnt stand much of a chance,but the cammies got specialized kill teams for that stuff

[bright aurora]

pyotor may have been high off his tits on insanely potent blood and fresh new powers but that means nothing to a single digit generation Banu Haqim assassin who's been putting people like pyotor down for the last 2 centuries

[restive carbon]

even after all this he still was a 10'th gen

[wicked surge]

ah fair. I kinda figured Kevin could still win if he got a dominate off, but I suppose it makes sense

[restive carbon]

if he found his way to the basement and had some accountant for dessert

....things could have gotten a bit dicey

[wicked surge]

oh they'd have been fucked

even Matilda would be weary of elder generation serial diablerist with fortitude, potence, celerity obfuscate and dominate at medium to high levels

[graceful jay]

U try to dominate an invisible guy

[restive carbon]

dominate is also

a bit of a crapshoot againszt other vampries

[wicked surge]

I mean I also am assuming Kevin had enough auspex Pyotr had to worry about being spotted

[restive carbon]

auspex isnt something passive

if he didnt know pytor was a problem,he likely wouldnt have had it on

[wicked surge]

weirdly sense the unseen is passive

so while telepathy and aura scrying are active you can just constantly be alert for obfuscated peeps in v5

[restive carbon]

huh

that IS deeply weird

[simple hill]

Hilariously despite being really muscular shitbeard probably didn’t invest any point in fortitude

Otherwise he probably would’ve killed Marcus

Err

Potence

Not fortitude

Seems like he invested in celerity instead

[compact copper]

Ape boy way also able to break his chokehold

And he seemed very fortitude focused

With how long he survived getting beat by Pyotr

[simple hill]

Yeah

But fortitude isn’t a discipline associated with brujah

From the lightning quick punches he threw at Marcus he probably had celerity, I think

That and he’s a biker so it just kinda makes sense

[restive carbon]

well,punches arent really effective at hurting vamps

and pyotr didnt want to kill him

if he died he would lose the opportunity to diablerize him

[compact copper]

That’s true but those are still dozens of potence enhanced punches

He was beaten for like a minute straight

And he was still alive

Also just visually his face was caved in by the end

[compact copper]

Also I know, I was saying ape boy was fortitude focused

[simple hill]

ahh

right

[compact copper]

Since that is a gangrel discipline

[simple hill]

probably yeah

but ofc

vampires are immune to choking by default

so I really don't know what shitbeard was doing there lmao

[compact copper]

Oh yah

I guess Shit Beard’s plan was to literally crush or break his neck

[simple hill]

probably yeah

[compact copper]

Honestly if he had more potence he probably could given enough time

[restive carbon]

yes

[compact copper]

Oh shit yah

I kinda forgot how brutal the hold was

[graceful jay]

https://bsky.app/profile/karlthederanged.bsky.social/post/3mkip7le7sc23

Karl, Man of Birch, Streamer of Man. (@karlthederanged.bsky.social)

Bluesky · Apr 27, 2026, 6:29 PM

[wicked surge]

https://tenor.com/view/northernlion-nl-hammers-beat-him-beat-gif-7823471197919175037

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NbbGG3DpY8

[graceful jay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/918416605506068491/1498372536424202311/image.png?ex=69f0ebab&is=69ef9a2b&hm=906fc4088be70cfc8416ba08f63695b3ca949e597c70521208a35a48a2cd256e&

remember to vote!!!!!

[frail citrus]

Samson 💯

[restive carbon]

move over shadow wizard money gang,your replacement is here

[frail citrus]

man the music for this one is gnarly

[fossil pollen]

orbeez

[split raven]

https://tenor.com/IFJ9.gif

[weak phoenix]

...

Oh god, let them all be safe.

[prisma adder]

What a blessed Tuesday it is for me to wake up to new Norfolk Wizard Game

[prisma adder]

Spoilers for the episode
||So the HtP gang moved from Norfolk USA to Norfolk UK it seems lol||

[split raven]

||they also briefly visited Norfolk AU iirc; Anton got lost there for a bit||

[split raven]

||this + a comment in #1161696306100715550 made me realize, the whole golden goose gang was there; the vampire hunter room is D, the angy boxer room is probably Anton, the gamer room is Kitten and Markus, and the room with the race car bed is Door and Boy||

||i was originally going to post this in #1161696306100715550 and tag this channel for your comment, but i switched it and now the realization feels a lot less smart ||

[radiant drum]

||The room with the genesis would just be Markus's, him and Kitten weren't a thing until after what happened to the family in Norfolk||

[surreal crown]

I know Door's ex is called Keighlyn. Or other Kay-derived name.

He only ever opened up to one person.

[simple hill]

But why did big d ||have a body stuffed in the ceiling||

[weak phoenix]

||It's Big D. It's either a dummy, a realistic dummy, or a ritualistic corpse with wards to protect the house or to keep something contained in the house.||

[simple hill]

That’s ||some really hyper realistic dummy||

Btw

||do vampire corpses actually have elongated fangs||

They don’t don’t they?

Since ||they revert to human body before infection||

So ||that could actually easily be a newly embraced vampire body||

[radiant drum]

||Vampire fangs in WoD are retractable.||

[prisma adder]

||Fangs are retractable and if the vampire is young enough they still leave a corpse||

||Could always have been another supernatural tho like werewolf in human form that they got a jump on||

[restive carbon]

||I was half expecting both Sybil and parker to take one superficial from the nudge on the shoulder||

[split raven]

||the poll before the ep started was a good idea tbh, every time an attack landed i was like OH SHIT ITS HAPPENING, even when it was just Samson and Bill grappling over the eggs||

[simple hill]

Orbeez you mean

[split raven]

https://tenor.com/bhD40.gif

[weak phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-obi-wan-now-thats-a-name-ive-not-heard-in-along-time-gif-11814407

[hardy pasture]

Got around to watching audiolog 3.5

That blue guy is such a fucking troll lmao

[gusty urchin]

https://old.rxddit.com/r/huntertheparenting/comments/1t73kcw/grimal_if_she_was_into_mumin_instead_of_anime/?ref=share&ref_source=link

[weak phoenix]

_>

https://tenor.com/view/whet-what-ew-can-you-not-stop-gif-9908266

https://tenor.com/view/asian-guy-saying-no-saying-no-with-hands-cut-it-cut-it-out-gif-1527082585105317295

[deft urchin]

https://bsky.app/profile/starnetz.bsky.social/post/3mlwfuzkj5c24

Star (@starnetz.bsky.social)

How Supernaturals describe the D Family

#huntertheparenting || #htp || #invincibleredraw

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Bluesky · May 15, 2026, 10:44 PM

[solemn lintel]

who the fuck is that guy in the top left...

[weak phoenix]

probably Vulcan

Or HTP vulcan

[graceful jay]

A character that has shown up before

[weak phoenix]

Before????

[graceful jay]

Ya

[solemn lintel]

Oh did they appear in wizard? Or is it one of those “for just a moment in a flashback” types

[deft urchin]

I think they're in the photograph from the ghoul episode

Although maybe it's a different episode

[solemn lintel]

Maybe

[split raven]

might be Anton

has the right hair and kind of shirt at least

i cant get over horse

ah yep, artist noted that it's meant to be Anton in replies

[weak phoenix]

Anton

Ohhhhhhh

[split raven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD6GD0yVVPw

Premieres <t:1779663600:t>

[weak phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/it-begins-nasa-drinks-gif-15848486

[waxen ice]

👀

[hidden lava]

yoooo

[compact copper]

Hell yah

[solemn lintel]

Oh shit

Good Sunday today

[waxen ice]

This premiers right after I get off work tonight, it's gonna be a Good night

[split raven]

it premiers right as my new game has its first session i'll have to watch it after we're done

[native mural]

JUST GOT THE NOTIFICATION FOR THE NEW EPISODE

[glacial sphinx]

ITS ALMOST TIMEEEE

[native mural]

I HAVE 15 MIN UNTIL IM OFF WORK STILL UUUUHH

[wicked surge]

Watched through the new ep, was v good, have some initial thoughts.
||Initial question: As the treaty of Liege makes the organizations one and the same in terms of aid, does that not make the Leopoldites indebted to the D family for saving one of their own when Marckus Saved Brok? (Yes, I know they're Leopoldites and pricks. But they are fanatical pricks with a self styled sense of honor, and the Reason Marckus was kidnapped was because of A) the family trying to help the Arcanum from the ghoul, and B stopping Brok's from committing suicide by werewolf) so that would constitute a debt owed. I'm surprised Remold didn't mention that to his daughter, honorbound as he is, although I suspect that's also why he actually intended to pay for D's aid to begin with, alongside the Fatigue thing. That aside, V good audio log, very terrifying to see how much reach pentex has, and the fact that even if the family is independent, they are now on the Pentex kill list, and if/when Kevin is discovered by the others, it'll probably get even worse. Also the swedish forest magic feels like a Chekov's gun.||

[simple hill]

i still feel like ||the better option would be to try and bargain with the werewolves rather than risk a conflict||

[wicked surge]

||It is but consider: For the characters, Marckus was taken roughly 2 hours ago, 3 tops. Its been a long night. Everyone is running on adrenaline, caffiene, spite, and grief. Even the most level headed of people would struggle to exercise good decision making in that time frame. Secondly D-Family has no reason to believe at this time that Matilda will be open to negotiating given how she took one of their own, murdered a staunch ally, and then maimed someone who was basically no threat to her.||

[simple hill]

yeah though the last one was more a sign of complete lack of concern over collateral damage haha

werewolves are kinda their own worst enemy sometimes

[wicked surge]

while true it's also ... kind of a good reason to go in armed to the teeth

it's hard to negotiate with the garou on a good day, even the other fera think most of them are fanatics

[simple hill]

yeah they are kinda insane at the best day

why did ||pentex want boy anyways||

[graceful jay]

This was a tidbit gone over in the werewolf audiolog

[wicked surge]

the fatigue family adventure one.
not burger time?

[graceful jay]

Ya

[wicked surge]

Voy, you coy bastard, I'm theorizing and gonna have to rewatch that now

Good work

[simple hill]

i remember this discussion

[weak phoenix]

||Boy being an oracle is becoming more and more true everyday.||

||Vindication||

[simple hill]

it was that Big D ||by saying all werewolves fail to make distinctions implicitly ignoring the possibility of negotiation while also failing to distinguish himself||

that and I think I made the observation that Kitten's statement: "We gotta get Markus back no matter the cost" is clearly irrational. Clearly there's lines that even he would be extremely reluctant to pay

and yeah that's ||clearly in show in this video||

[graceful jay]

Also hope you all enjoy more Chronicles rep

[wicked surge]

||Yeah, its becoming more clear Door is even inadverdantly the man saving the family. It may not seem it at the moment, and you could argue revealing what he knew to Pentex may damn them, but avoiding signing their freedom away to Pentex is a w.||

||If He dies its gonna be real bad||

[wicked surge]

... Were some of the hunter orgs chronicles related?

[simple hill]

||not signing a contract with Pentex is a w yeah||

||I was screaming 'you dumbasses you are better off negotiating with the regent of great yarmouth than work with pentex||

[solemn lintel]

I think the mention of vigils?

I haven’t read hunter the vigil

[simple hill]

i trust pentex exactly the same amount as I can throw Sagittarius A*

[wicked surge]

A fair assesment

[wicked surge]

and yeah i think?

I hjaven't read vigil in ages

[native mural]

Just finished the newest episode

Holy SHIT

Unrelated to the newest episode though

||I need to see more of Ross, bc that motherfucker HAS to be a Black Spiral Dancer right??||

[solemn lintel]

honestly loved benedicte
shes such an asshole

and also

blair ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[native mural]

Ough

Blair 💜💜

She's not the burger lady :[

She said so

[hidden lava]

||"Dad, is Sweden real?"
"Unfortunately, yes."
"I don't believe you."||

[native mural]

Genuinely funny as hell

[solemn lintel]

Choosing to believe she got reaaaally flustered and embarrassed ||when she got called a worm freak||

Before going dead silent and into pentex mode

[wicked surge]

||She went from "These are schmucks who cares" to "We need to kill these guys immediately" - I expect the next arc will have the family fighting off Pentex's attempts to gank them.||

[compact copper]

I think ||the Swede talking was the first time I’ve seen D genuinely scared by another human||

[hardy pasture]

||OH MY GOD THEY NAMED GIANNI'S CHARACTER GABRIEL FUCKING ANGELO||

[weary plaza]

D being ||tired of hearing the word "heretic"|| was a real knee-slapper.

You can almost hear the words of the writers going ||"guys TTS was 4 years ago. please."||

[ebon jewel]

apostle powerr

[ebon jewel]

the union

currently goin thru it rn still but some vigil terms get ported in like compact

[ebon jewel]

gay-kontoret

ah so this is how ||we get back the tts dynamic||

[ebon jewel]

||after being put thru Catholic Marriage Law BS for the last six months, smh cant believe benedicte wasnt citing impediments to marriage||

[fathom kettle]

Wait... which who was this back then?

I wonder if ||Occam will learn ablut Fatigue.||

I kinda feels like it could solve some problems down the line.

[ebon jewel]

i was riffing off the ||deal from the newburgh guys - kitten & d holed up far away from the rest of their family||

[fathom kettle]

Ah.

There is a non 0% chance that the Swede ||was doing the family a favor and is smarter than he lets on.||

[simple hill]

What if Swedish government was amassing supernatural power since the 800s

The Viking raids

Were they just robbers and thieves

Or were they tomb raiding across Europe for supernatural powers

[weak phoenix]

I mean...

There is the fact that World War One spiraled into a global war against a mad scientist that then quickly got blackbagged into history.

So, it would or would not be surprising if nation states in WOD were sorta just getting this stuff, putting in a vault, or actively using it.

Or in some cases being accidental servants to other supernatural powers.

[green geyser]

I am spontaneously reminde dof Genius the Transgression

[weak phoenix]

Like Task Force Valkyrie being a combined Vamp/Technocracy backed group.

You don't get power armored out of nowhere.

[compact copper]

Never underestimate a Swede with a poor grasp on the English language

They are secretly plotting against you and will unleash the undead corpse of Erik the Red when most convenient

[green geyser]

Is this why Mike killed a Swedish Prime Minister

[compact copper]

Yes

[compact copper]

This deep state mercenary can’t possibly be this cute…

[solemn lintel]

She’s like a wet sponge

I want to throw her

[compact copper]

Dump her in milk and throw her against the wall

[simple hill]

I’ll dump her in lava like they did to Arnold schwarznagger

[slim trout]

the episode was rather interesting, But i was so annoyed with how quickly Kitten was signing the documents

[weak phoenix]

Kitten is a man who wants to get his husband back.

Any spouse would do anything to get their wife or husband back.

[compact copper]

Also, I’m trying to figure out the Blacklaw family tree rn

So they all descend from Kronik Fatigue, presumably from whatever family he had before he got mulched in the Philippines

Then it’s Pascal Blacklaw, who was the father of Remold, who is the father of Brok and Benedicte

Occam is also his nephew but I’m not sure how tbh

[ebon jewel]

in-law i assume

[simple hill]

“I’ll do whatever it takes to save someone” is a noble but also highly irrational thing yeah

But they avoided the worst by voiding the contract between them and Pentex

Literally being a leopoldite would be better

[compact copper]

For sure yah

[weak phoenix]

Or any of the other hunter groups

[compact copper]

Also, what faction was the non Swedish bureaucrat representing?

[weak phoenix]

except for the Lodge Hunters, they're snotty, rich prick freaks.

[ebon jewel]

uk government

[slim trout]

were they descended from Kronik? I thought the blacklaws were just a seperate Hunter family

[ebon jewel]

which way englishman
the dispossession of everything u hold dear, or becoming catholic

[compact copper]

No Kronik was a fatigue

He brought pascal along with him during his Philippines colonization

[slim trout]

I get that, I guess I didnt understand the first message

[compact copper]

Ah thanks

Also, it’s kinda funny seeing people say that the coalition members weren’t good at negotiating but like, they didn’t have to be lol

The d family wanted to hunt a werewolf pack

Alone

[ebon jewel]

pascal is separate from the fatigues im p sure

[compact copper]

The coalition held all the cards, they either accepted their offers or they die horribly in the attempt

Offering “good” deals in that context is completely unnecessary

The only reason they didn’t get it in the end was because pentex ruled them as knowing to much

[compact copper]

I thought pascal was a fatigue?

[slim trout]

yeah cant wait to see how the whole "knows to much" thing bites them in the end

[ebon jewel]

i might need to double-check the episode but based on the wiki, pascal was just there as a member of the arcanum

[slim trout]

Pascal is a blacklaw

[ebon jewel]

kronik compares him to wernon from what i remember, but they arent related

i assume a family friend situation

[slim trout]

from what i remember it was more of a Loan of Pascals services

[graceful jay]

Pascal was the Blacklaw and they were all in the same organization

[ebon jewel]

da official word

[compact copper]

Thank you writer man

Also, interesting to know that despite everything, the society of Saint leopold is not a Pentex controlled organization

[slim trout]

I guess their Fanaticism is worth at least that

[ebon jewel]

this is bc the vatican is a weaver-aligned organization

[compact copper]

Oh, neat

[slim trout]

Neat

[ebon jewel]

i dont actually know if thats true lmao its a bit, but it would scan

[compact copper]

Oh

I mean, of the three

The weaver is definitely the most capital G God like

In the Christian sense anyway

[simple hill]

Weaver is slightly more preferable to the worm

[slim trout]

only slightly?

[simple hill]

Okay a lot more preferable

[compact copper]

Yah I gotta say I’d prefer it to, infinite super death forever

There’s very few things that are comparable to the wyrm in how bad they are

[solemn lintel]

He is homosexual

He is desperate to get his actual straight up fiancé back from being kidnapped by werewolves

[ebon jewel]

excuse u he is bisexual

[compact copper]

Also yah the most unrealistic part of this episode was that there was only one 50 page long legally binding document

[solemn lintel]

Okay yeah that’s true

I shouldn’t be biphobic my ass is Bi

Point is

[compact copper]

Quite frankly the Londoner and the swede should have had documents way bigger then they did

[slim trout]

definitely

[solemn lintel]

He is in love

[ebon jewel]

in fairness charles does not seem the most competent g-man

[compact copper]

Hell even the union boys should have had a pretty big contract

[slim trout]

the swede seemed to be the most fair minus the medical prisoner thing

[compact copper]

That’s what you think, but I know a Viking necromancer when I see one

[ebon jewel]

i assume the g is pronounced with a hard guh in swedish but i couldnt not hear gay kontoret

[compact copper]

I mean for Big D’s family joining the union wouldn’t be to bad

They could still do what they do just now they have to tell the union rep whenever they do

And open it up for other members

The status quo would mostly be maintained for them

[ebon jewel]

the main problem w/ the union is they couldnt be bums anymore

[slim trout]

they would have to get approval for all their hunts but other than that your right

[compact copper]

Yah they would need like, income

[ebon jewel]

i do wonder how they even like, have money

[solemn lintel]

I think they’ve got like

Savings

[compact copper]

Presumably D’s gold stashes

[solemn lintel]

And stuff

But no actual income

[weak phoenix]

you gotta pay those union dues...silver bullets against werewolf's doesn't buy it self.

[compact copper]

Since he did mention he found some

[ebon jewel]

the gamer podcast couldnt have done that hot & im p sure youtube didnt have payment yet in 2004

[solemn lintel]

And it’s getting tighter and tighter

[slim trout]

truly a horrid fate, G A I N F U L E M P L O Y M E N T

[compact copper]

Honestly I am kinda surprised kitten doesn’t have a day job tbh

[weak phoenix]

Doesn't Kit also have a family inheritance?

[slim trout]

I should know I have job

job sucks

[compact copper]

He seems like the type to recognize you need income to exist in present society

[weak phoenix]

Because he did gets his parent's house

unless it was just the house?

[ebon jewel]

i assume the arcanum had salaried employment

[weak phoenix]

They probably did

[compact copper]

Oh yah he was kicked out

[weak phoenix]

especially since Fatigue and Blacklaw were members.

So, they probably were paying everybody at the chapterhouse.

[compact copper]

Also yah the arcanum must pay its members since they seem to be working there effectively full time

[weak phoenix]

And the two maids

[compact copper]

It’s a scholarly organization, they need to make sure their scholars like, can live

[weak phoenix]

And git and spit being security guards

[ebon jewel]

Ah the arcanum are the worst evil

a rentseeking academic publisher

[weak phoenix]

I mean

that's the best cover

"Oh yeah, they're just a bunch of nerds. What are they gonna do?"

The nerds secretly have death magik on call.

[slim trout]

also sun magic

Bootleg Hamon

[weak phoenix]

And super secretive Gaelic martial arts

Well, okay, at least with the Chapterhouses in the UK.

Probably a bunch of other secretive martial arts.

Scottish rock breaker wrestling

Welsh dragon boxing

God, imagine being able to suplex a boulder.

[compact copper]

Also like, how much can D know about Pentex if he was at least semi confident he could get out on a deal with them

[ebon jewel]

i dont think he knows pentex

[compact copper]

Like, they were gonna sign it thinking they could betray them and handle them as an enemy

[ebon jewel]

he just knows corporations

[solemn lintel]

D very much doesn’t know about pentex

He doesn’t know much about werewolves and the whole…thing in general

He knows surface level details

[weak phoenix]

And vampire stuff

[solemn lintel]

Like “evil cosmic entropy that seems to call things into its service”

Vampire stuff he knows

He knows deep shit on vampire stuff

[weak phoenix]

Yep

[solemn lintel]

It’s outside of vampires he starts struggling

[weak phoenix]

especially on anything killing an elder

[jagged condor]

V. interesting new episode, i imagine there will be ||consequences for Door's slip up down the line. W for the Union guy being able to summarise that contract, at least- because holy shit those terms were awful (as expected of Pentex)||

||also london mithraeum reference! Definitely dates D to at least Roman times, obvious by "Londinium" but still||

[graceful jay]

My psionic warriors, cancel this boo boo fool immediately

[solemn lintel]

OUGHHHH

[graceful jay]

Pentex does not control the world, they are merely the worst among peers

[warped portal]

"I don't want to talk to him..."

[wicked surge]

I believe the series said it straight: D's field of expertise is, in his own words "vampiric secret societies." While he's had adventures involving mummies, mages, werewolves, and other fera, those are his bread and butter.

IF he'd known more about the garou and their war beyond "Weak to silver, fight corrupt environmental corporate practices", Fatigue's notes wouldn't have been such a revelation, and he'd have been much better prepared to recognize signs of Garou Gifts.

[native mural]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-sfm-team-fortress2-sourcefilmmaker-gif-18587844

[graceful jay]

D doesn't know anything about Pentex because he doesn't even understand how a credit card works

[compact copper]

KILL IT WITH STONES

[wicked surge]

Also that, this man thinks the computer is the devil, and tried to destroy marckus computer as a kid.

In some ways his expertise really is just this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8x7T5buWU

[ebon jewel]

im like 90% sure d has advocated for the gold standard at some point in an episode

[weak phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-groundskeeper-willie-angry-mob-monster-groundskeeper-gif-6793098684128230987

[jagged condor]

Speaking of ||Pentex, I think the Leopoldites sourcing chemical weapons from them is definitely something that might come back to bite the Hunters||

||or at least, from one of their subsidiaries||

[hardy pasture]

||Oh shit I didn't realize they got Vinny to do some voice acting, that's fun||

[wicked surge]

Do you think D would advocate for Crypto before he realzied it was a scam

Because once he knows how its used he's going to hate it

I can just see him being suckered in by the anti authoritarian rhetoric for like... 5 minutes

[ebon jewel]

d is a libertarian but i do think he's too anti-computer for crypto

[wicked surge]

||Sidenote, IIRC in WOD D knowing of the Mithraic cults does not automatically date D to Roman times, because Mithras has been prince of London for ages, or at least with cults there. Per the V5 fall of london book even when Mithras nearly got Guy Fawksed in the 1940s, he survived, and his cults continued to worship him. It also helped his husband/boytoy/twink/confidant, Rodger De Camden has remained a part of London's court/ high society and keeps the cults guided enough to not kill each other, while often negotiating with the Camarilla until Mithras was "reborn". Mithras dissapearence weakened them - but they didn't ever dissapear. So while we know D has been to London, evidently gotten involved with some amount of vampiric under socities there, and was good enough to not die, we can't date when that happened because the Cult could have dealt with him at literally any time London was important. We're talking a time frame between the modern day, and 313 CE, the cult of Mithras is older than dirt||

[jagged condor]

||ah, true

Temporarily forgot Mithras was a WOD character for a second because I got too excited about the irl history of London (the mithraeum is one of my favourite sites)||

[deft urchin]

||Sometimes I forget Mithras was a real dude with how often they get placed as an enigmatic occult figure in fiction||

[jagged condor]

||although I will say the use of the city's Roman name in the same sentence is interesting

But that could be a D-ism||

[wicked surge]

||Yeah it could be another point in "D is really old", alongside using 'minas' and other things. It doesn't mean he visited when it was londinium, but if he's old enough to name the city that way...||

[weak phoenix]

||Either that. Or like with the Family, he had a very odd home school mixed with Hunter Life.||

[solemn lintel]

He’s like Ron Swanson

Libertarian but somehow charming

[ebon jewel]

the power of being gay

[solemn lintel]

No no he’s bisexual!

Hah!

Got you this time

[ebon jewel]

bisexuals can be gay

[solemn lintel]

Let me claim my victory ;-;

I’m thinking about door’s “vampires aren’t people” bit

And how funny it’s gonna be for Kevin to interact with the family again

Cus I’m certain it’s gonna happen

[warped portal]

I laughed at D getting called Ottoman

[weary plaza]

Something few of the YouTube comments (surprisingly polite) noted that D ||cited himself as Turkish, which could put an age limit on his supposed immortality due to the history of peoples in that area.

But it could simply make a different case: the older he is, the further his origins dip into the nomadic history of the Turkish peoples. Anywhere earlier than 9th century CE and you start running east to chase the origins of Turks in Anatolia all the way to Inner Asia. Unfortunately, I'm just browsing off of Wikipedia pages on historical nomadic confederations, so the closer you get to 0CE the more I don't know where exactly he originates in the area, because the origin outlines stop being precise and start being scholarship wars.

Or he's Anatolian and is just using the modern name of the region. But that would be very weird for him.||

Tecatin ↩️

[Reply to:](#1216227286177808584 message) ||Yeah it could be another point in "D is really old", alongside using 'minas' and other things. It||…

[solemn lintel]

||I also don't think he's that immortal. He mentioned going on a hunt with his father, i think as far as things go, while he might have a lot of history, i dont actually think hes...super duper duper ancient.||

||especially since he has a very narrow focus on his supernatural knoweldge, the rest has just been picked up in scattered fragments.||

[compact copper]

||Yah, big d has been shown recently as actually pretty ignorant on a lot of the supernatural besides vampires||

||If he was say, some ancient Turkish nomad who’s been doing this for centuries now, there’s no way he wouldn’t have learned a hell of a lot more about non vampiric threats||

||I really don’t think Big D is particularly long lived, just extremely dedicated to the life of being a hunter and perhaps a little mad||

[solemn lintel]

||he might be a little odd and maybe a little supernatural himself. He might even be way older than humans should be.||

||but I think he’s still not…ungodly amounts of time old||

[compact copper]

||I will say I’m personally averse to any “X member of the family is secretly supernatural” theory besides Mage Markus and… something going on with boy since those are being more clearly set up by the story||

||and Markus being a mage doesn’t actually contradict him being a normal human since he’s not awakened yet||

||So any idea of big d being immortal or even long lived I have some natural aversion to||

[weary plaza]

||Yeah, I'm personally not sure, and without some heavy lifting where he's somehow kept up to date on words for Goturk descendants, "Turkish" pins him to at most fairly recently in the grand scheme of things. It was a fun wikipedia dive at least.||

[compact copper]

Also so like, I know O’Tully’s is evil Pentex McDonald’s

But is it always a hub for formoria like with the audiolog?

Like, if I’m just some normal Joeschmo, who wants burger during lunch time and I go to one, will I be served by a mutated servant of the wyrm?

[solemn lintel]

||i mean his eyes were glowing||

||it's less a theory so much as a question of degree||

||I dont think hes immortal but i think hes been through shit||

[warped portal]

||And his wounds healed in minutes||

[compact copper]

||I personally chock that up to stylist flair of the show||

[solemn lintel]

||i too am averse to the idea that hes actually an immortal shaman badass with 12 souls inside him.||
||But i dont think hes a regular human||

[solemn lintel]

||It feels notable tbh.||

[compact copper]

I guess

[solemn lintel]

like i understand the aversion completely but there is undeniably...attention drawn to the odd details about him

hes certainly...mortal.

like most things that threaten other characters threaten him

[warped portal]

||I don't think he's Emperor 0.8b, but I would put money on D being somehow related to OG Hunters||

[solemn lintel]

but i dont think hes quite normal

some connection to the imbued wouldnt be shocking but i dont know enough about the imbued

[compact copper]

Also, this episode is making me wonder, would a marriage be considered legal if you were married in another country and haven’t been divorced yet?

Because Occam was, for sure not Big D’s first partner

And not his first divorce

[wicked surge]

depends on the relationship with the country

[compact copper]

So like, if Big D was married in America, never legally divorced and then married Occam in Belgium, is his marriage to Occam legal still?

[wicked surge]

international law often amounts to "how much of a pain is ignoring your rules"

[compact copper]

That is true yah

[wicked surge]

legally however in that scenario the law would say that under US law and likely Belgian law, marriage to more than one partner at a time is not recognized by either country, and thus D would probably be viewed as married to his American spouse

but, if he was divorced from all US spouses it's likely that Britain, as a then member of the EU which acknowledged the validity of Belgian/Eu marriages would legally accept it

[compact copper]

I see

[wicked surge]

tldr: "we aren't legalizing it but Belgium has enough political clout that we'll let it slide"

as tends to be the case in international law, real politik rules the day

I also think real politik is why the leopildites accepted Occam's loophole

sure they may not care for the loophole itself, but claiming dominion over an arcanum chapter house, it's relics, it's membership, and knowledge in exchange for rescuing one marckus? not a bad trade

[radiant drum]

Leave it to Alfa and Ogre Poppenang to bring back a funny line to save the day

[solemn lintel]

its because benedicte believes in the power of true love

[wicked surge]

I choose to believe Benedicte believes in the power of romancing divorcees like Door

[green geyser]

Oh shit Gianni jumpscare

[weary plaza]

It's funny how the ||helmet echo just barely covers the fact that he's doing like, a mix between his Durendal and Columbo bits.||

[radiant drum]

"That's right, scurry to the save station bottom"

[compact copper]

Look, she’s a very faithful Catholic in WOD

Believing in the power of love is a genuine way to obtain the power of love to kill vampire

[solemn lintel]

who knows maybe shes not a homophobic catholic.
it's possible

........
-# it's possible.

[compact copper]

Catholic Dutch woman yuri

[weak phoenix]

She's probably a Franciscan Nun!

[ebon jewel]

do u mean this in terms of secular law or canonical law

[compact copper]

Secular

[ebon jewel]

its basically a game of chicken

the marriage only gets legally voided if the authorities found out the divorce never went thru

[fathom kettle]

Is... is Gremil the Tau GF Kitten was supposed to have?

[ebon jewel]

grimal is a riff on shadowsun yes

[fathom kettle]

Oh...

Omg.

[solemn lintel]

Kinda love the occasional “and here’s who they are as a 40k character” bits

If only because the sheer difference is beautiful

[short cradle]

is it called Londonium anymore?

[split raven]

not since the fall of the Roman Empire, at least

at least not in any official capacity

[wicked surge]

Krycman went from destroyer of worlds, to the IRS (he is just as dangerous)

[solemn lintel]

wait who's krycman based on???

[wicked surge]

Inquisitor Kryptman, Recaf lover, Tyrannid discoverer, bomber of worlds, and the relative "sane man" to Fyodor's party of madmen and fanatics

Relative is doing atlas levels of lifting

He got a full series by Eliphas a while back, and showed up in TTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1cXYan0NQA

[solemn lintel]

OHHHHH

that guy

[graceful jay]

https://tenor.com/view/rocks-throwing-throwing-rocks-magik-speed-gif-7697826378082696212

[solemn lintel]

hes so fast

[green geyser]

Wow guys I'm stoned

[fair bear]

||Mr. Watergate is helping me read my Pentex Contract||

[hidden lava]

I love Pentex

I remember making a Pentex ARG for my werewolf game

Where I created a website to allow for my players to navigate and find the files for a Pentex special project login

disguised as a logistics company

Ultimately leading to the reveal that Pentex was trying to create new fera shifters under their control

[compact copper]

I’m gonna assume she is not that then

[surreal crown]

Afaik Ogre Pogre's general statement is the HTP characters aren't meant to carry over as reused/reworked TTS characters, even if they resemble another

Grimal is just Kitten's ex, that's the only real connection there she has to TTS Shadowsun

[solemn lintel]

oh yeah for sure

though, personally, i like to see differences, and it is inherently really funny to say shit like "oh yeah this is technically x 40k character"

but ultimately, they are their own characters, their relationships are unique, and their narrative arcs are unique.
-# it can get a bit annoying sometimes when i see people genuinely attempt to like, make D like the emperor in some way, or that he will have the same kind of narrative arc or even narrative position
-# no! he's not! he's not gonna be a god king hes just a dude!!
-# an extremely wacky dude.

[weak phoenix]

who loves his sons

and will kill for them

[solemn lintel]

yeah

its amusing to make the comparison but ultimately for me its just amusement. its not that useful for actually analyzing him because hes like...

i dunno. he's really fucking funny

something's wrong with him

i would put him in a terrarium to observe him but i suspect he would escape somehow

[compact copper]

Chat, are all the commanders of the society of Saint leopold priests/nuns or just fanatical lay people?

[simple hill]

Technically they weren’t even part of the church until fairly recently weren’t they

Just in 2008 there were like

A couple of dozen of them left

Now there’s thousands

[compact copper]

Oh yah

[simple hill]

But yeah they are more like a Catholic secret society

Rather than an organized arm of the church

So their members can be anyone from a priest/nun to a layperson

[compact copper]

Also now I’m remembering Brennan’s character in LA by night, Adrian Clairmont

A member of the society of Saint leopold and former bishop of the church (he was kicked out)

And I’m like, 90% sure LA by night is canon to the wider setting

[ebon jewel]

it crops up now & again yes

[compact copper]

Sweet

[ebon jewel]

htp would be b4 la by night tho im p sure

[compact copper]

Oh yah but I’m more bringing him up because he’s a canon member of the society who was not only not a priest, but an excommunicated priest

Which like, if someone excommunicated can be a high ranking member then a lay person absolutely can be too

[weak phoenix]

I wonder if that means if the society of Leopold would get found out.

Officially, the Church would have to address the "Okay, so, apparently there are monsters hunters part of our church. That also includes excommunicated clergy. How do we even begin?"

[compact copper]

I thought they were officially recognized now?

So the upper ranks of the clergy does know about them

[ebon jewel]

the pope vagueposted abt them

[weak phoenix]

Also, HTP uses parts of different canon, yeah?

[compact copper]

Yah

It’s a kinda mishmash of original and new

Mostly original though

I don’t remember their actual names I’m sorry

[split raven]

pre-V5 lore and V5 lore don't really conflict for the most part
the Second Inquisition is a V5 thing so plus i think Voy has confirmed that they run off V5 mechanics-wise(or at least, when we were speculating about Matilda, he confirmed that everything she did was based on stuff in the W5 book)

which, its set in 2006 so its kind of in an area governed more by V5 anyways, old lore stops at 2004 with many apocalypses

[wicked surge]

The Ghoul log notd that the "default" state for rules/lore is around V5ish. But it also notes that they do bring in excerpts from the old lore. and of course homebrew exists, like the draught of dominate that was probably used to dominate grimal

[graceful jay]

We have an entire lore disclaimer

[weary plaza]

That I swear gets longer every time I don't look at it too closely

[simple hill]

Do some werewolves work as mercenaries for various supernatural orgs

[fossil pollen]

Yeah, some do. Mostly Forsworn but some Garou are stupid enough to do it, too. There is a lore sheet in W5 pcs can take for Project Twilight as having been or are currently affiliated with them

Catastrophically bad idea but it is a thing

[wicked surge]

saw this on the wod memes subredidt, and wish I had the art to make it (Wizard game ep 4 spoilers) ||Bill kicking the zombie||

[simple hill]

Death strike

Wonder if Benedicte has True Faith

[graceful jay]

https://bsky.app/profile/deborgant.bsky.social/post/3mmty6kqzx226

Deborgant (@deborgant.bsky.social)

I’ve wanted to draw something for #huntertheparenting for ages, and I finally did! This woman completely won me over.

Bluesky · May 27, 2026, 4:59 PM

[solemn lintel]

YEAHHHHH

[compact copper]

I want to say things but unfortunately I cannot say these things without breaking several of these server’s rules

So I will simply let that message imply what I want to say

[native mural]

Ah

Very understandable my friend

[restive carbon]

||I haven't laughed this much in a while

The divorce papers thing goddamn||

[solemn lintel]

honestly i gotta wonder what the writing process for that was

was that planned to be a plot point long in advance? or was it just "wait we could use this here as an out" and taking the opportunity.

cus this series is very tightly written and very intricate, it's genuinely impressive

[ebon jewel]

i mean voy is around

[solemn lintel]

yeah i mean he is!!!!
i could just ask him!!
and in posting this i have implicitly done so.

...however internet anxiety

[graceful jay]

How should I know i dont even know what htp is

[weak phoenix]

Writers when asked a question:

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mind-enigma-spilled-milk-gif-14172730

[waxen ice]

hypertext transfer protocol?

[graceful jay]

How can text be hyper

[solemn lintel]

with technology

[green geyser]

Are you sure

[graceful jay]

It dont even got bits

[compact copper]

Has there been a character in this series people haven’t accused of being secretly supernatural?

[graceful jay]

Nope!

[solemn lintel]

i dont think you can say that about people-

[graceful jay]

Avery is actually meant to be non binary is the funniest bit of that

We just legit forgot to have anyone refer to them by a pronoun the whole video

Other than "you"

[ebon jewel]

bilgewell clocked gay by subreddit

[solemn lintel]

hfdashkjfdas

[compact copper]

Accuses someone of being fae

Turns out they’re just queer

Many such cases

[wicked surge]

local eNBie become an NB - Norfolk Bureaucrat - in 2for 1 pun deal

[graceful jay]

3 for one

New Burgh

Get owned

[weary plaza]

She WORKS for a government. If she's a faerie her whimsy fucking died years ago.

MagmaNaught (any)(ping me) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1216227286177808584 message) Has there been a character in this series people haven’t accused of being secretly supernatural? 📎

Nonbinary villain with zero whimsy or joy is a top tier design choice though.

Voy the Nelson Boy ↩️

[Reply to:](#1216227286177808584 message) Avery is actually meant to be non binary is the funniest bit of that

Nice to have SOME representation for nonbinary that doesn't dress like a color chart. Even if she is a bureaucrat.

[wicked surge]

John wick 3 🤝 HTP 5.4 evil NBies who act via administrative power

[compact copper]

Doesn’t a faerie without whimsy fucking die in this setting?

Like my understanding of WOD Fae is that if they become to normal they literally die

[graceful jay]

The fae parts do

[native mural]

The fae soul dies yee

[compact copper]

Then yah

[native mural]

See but here's the thing, she could be a Thallain, so she wouldn't need to worry about succumbing to Banality

[compact copper]

I mean I guess but like, I still don’t think them having pointed ears and sharp means they’re a Fae

I think they just have pointed ears and sharp features

[native mural]

Why are they that pointed though

[compact copper]

Because they’re a freak

[weak phoenix]

People do that IRL.

[compact copper]

Like a lot of the humans in this show are

[weak phoenix]

There's like a subculture of people who get real elf ear tips.

[native mural]

I just think it wouldn't be too far fetched if a Thallain would be working for a Hunter Organization

Especially since said Hunter Organization already has connections to a company attached to Pentex

[restive carbon]

also unless i am wrong about how faeries work

i feel like the banality of doing deskwork for the coalition would make one explode

[native mural]

That's why my theory is a Thallain

[compact copper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/huntertheparenting/s/xesPGg0eyi

[native mural]

PFFFFT HA

[weak phoenix]

So, I'm watching the new episode

Why does the Swede talk that way???

[compact copper]

English is probably not their first, second, third or even fourth language

[hidden lava]

I think it's just a jab at swedes in general, also probably some leftover voice/character from TTS that didn't have a home, I would guess

(I never watched the TTS series)

[weak phoenix]

The closet he sounds like is one of the Custodes.

But more in the "What the fuck is this old man talking about?" way.

Oh god. That means there's a brother Santodes running around in HTP somewhere.

Funny image though

https://tenor.com/view/knives-out-compels-compelsme-daniel-gif-20215418

[solemn lintel]

I cannot recall a single tts character that was like this(haven’t watched in a while) so I think he’s just like that

[compact copper]

There were a lot of funny voices in TTS but none like this yah

[weak phoenix]

I see

He almost sounds like the shirt AD guy character.

But less unhinged

and not shooting radio hosts.

[graceful jay]

He is a normal Swedish man

Also no hes from the superior series

kinda

Tabletop Boys

[compact copper]

I don’t think Ive watched that one

[wicked surge]

as voy said alfabusa is swedish so I figure

1. Alfa delights in self deprecating swedish humor to the point of voicing gnome boy.

or;

2. alfas other writers are attacking him for being swedish and are possibly Danish or Finnish in secret and this is all a plot to convince the world to continue burning the gavla goat

[weak phoenix]

Wow

I was not expecting ex-husband interrupt

Oh okay, that interrupt is even crazier now

[simple hill]

Not legally|| an ex husband||

[weak phoenix]

Oh yeah

[graceful jay]

https://www.tumblr.com/ogrepoppenangleaksofficial/818271619120332801?source=share

Ogre Poppenang Leaks

-# #hunter the parenting #grimal #kitten

▶ Play video

Tumblr · Jun 2, 2026, 1:43 AM

[solemn lintel]

Yeah

I was there

[compact copper]

Thank you Grimal