#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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neat cedar
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ahaahhh

faint pivot
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Damn

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Ah well, an excuse to claim my enkephalin I suppose

neat cedar
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in another case

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we have

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the next intervall9

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and

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uh

ebon forge
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damn.

faint pivot
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H u h

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SPILL

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Shakes you

neat cedar
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seems to be what people were asking for

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i.e.

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digging deeper into Ryoshu'a feelings on everything

ebon forge
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yeah

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IDLE HEROS 😭

neat cedar
ebon forge
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i knew it felt familar

faint pivot
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I guess it's April Fools somewhere in the world...

faint pivot
ebon forge
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ay wait a sec

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that game sounds fun

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ngl i should play more slay the spire but im also like

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kinda

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a weeb

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# ebon forge that game sounds fun

It's fun, rough around the edges thanks to the ripples of a last-ditch AI translation, but they've been replacing that stuff as we go now that it isn't on life support

atomic steeple
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N corp has spiral, shooty guy, and probably the canto 5 abnos

faint pivot
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Is more of a Gacha than Limbus though, so be warned

ebon forge
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oh its a gacha?

faint pivot
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Yeah

ebon forge
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i saw deckbuilding

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dammit

faint pivot
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It's both

faint pivot
# ebon forge i saw deckbuilding

Your deck is built by:

  1. 4 awakeners, who each bring a minimum of 4 different cards each
  2. Optionally (and sometimes unintentionally), symptom cards which are double-edged swords (i.e. take damage, draw twice)
ebon forge
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oh is it like unlocking librarians for ruina orrrrrr

faint pivot
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So you're building the deck 4 at a time

ebon forge
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damn

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i kinda want a MtG-like deckbuilder

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where it has roguelike elements but also tons of infinite combos and crazy cycles you can hit fairly easily

atomic steeple
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Moses outis, abd we get Smoke mechanics, plus stuff relating to lob corp damage types

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Yuria don quixote flirting with every woman

ebon forge
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like how Phantom Rose is kinda that

faint pivot
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Oh shit?

ebon forge
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as long as you manage cooldowns you can basically like

faint pivot
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Damn I almost forgot about that game

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Good taste

ebon forge
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create loops of skills

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which allow you to do things like infinite barrier

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or +939203029 damage

atomic steeple
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Poise sinking Shi division, using the sorrow swordplay edgar gregor uses

ebon forge
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its mosty just turn count that holds you back

faint pivot
ebon forge
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and sapphire adds a ton of nw stuff

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it's fun

faint pivot
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Ponder

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For next time I suppose

ebon forge
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imo sapphire is more fun cuz the mechanics are deeper

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and the loops are better defined

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i wanna play more enter the gungeon

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nuclear throne too (never touched before)

atomic steeple
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I need to make edits of ring hong lu doing a city tour with his sculpture

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Ina: wah!

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Also, udjats use mirages

faint pivot
cosmic gorge
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Ryoshu canto part 2....

ebon forge
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Ryoshu

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her canto is... interestng

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pacing is a bit weird (part 1 vs part 3)

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but i bet the intervello will give us them juicy things we crave

faint pivot
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Ngl I expected the weirdness cause she has what

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The shortest source material among the sinners?

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She's at least among the shortest 3 iirc

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Anyway it had to be awkward to stretch into 3 acts with how the casting was made

ebon forge
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mmm

cosmic gorge
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ryo's canto had the least amount of 1:1 adaptation among the recent cantos

with yoshihide, the daughter, the monkey and the hell screen being represented by several different people at once

ebon forge
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and the owl, to some extent

cosmic gorge
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mmhmm

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Ren being the monkey is a big brain analysis

ebon forge
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mmm

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and the whole thing about Hohenheim and Fae Dude (forgot the name) kinda being the owl together iirc

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i cant remember

cosmic gorge
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its a fun way to adapt the source material to a completely different story thats for sure

ebon forge
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night tho

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need to sleep now

cosmic gorge
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nighto

eternal gull
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does anyone have a uh

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support id for ryoshu I may use

faint pivot
eternal gull
faint pivot
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1 sec

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Actually send ur code

eternal gull
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im doing boggak (idk how to spell it) but my ryoshu id is really underleveled

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I just dont use her like ever

atomic steeple
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Night carmen

faint pivot
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@eternal gull your code

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pleasee

eternal gull
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tryna remember how to find it 😭

faint pivot
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It's uhh

eternal gull
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W140323690

faint pivot
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Hang on

eternal gull
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here (if anyone wants to add me they can)

faint pivot
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Bring up your ticket

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My code is

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X961210493

eternal gull
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sent a req

faint pivot
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eternal gull
faint pivot
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Accepted

eternal gull
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yaay :D

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time to fucking smash some peccetula to death before I become one :D

faint pivot
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Best wishes!

faint pivot
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Funky how Magic Bullet is framed as a shot you reluctantly take and how Fell Bullet is loosing a few more rounds in the haze

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Both ruin your life but in different ways

atomic steeple
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Interesting detail. Besides the seeming ring focus, the event icon has both ryoshu's color scheme and the blue/white that araya and shiomi had. So maybe more backstory on shiomi, and we flesh out two fingers in the event

Makes sense the Ring is coming in. Not only are they the owners of corridor tech, but as dante said, they are the finger that most values both art and knowledge. Of course they'd want to scavenge tech and knowledge from the House of Spiders

wild mango
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I’m curious what y’all’s thoughts are for the bleed team

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In terms of benching the kk duo to run ringsang + nshu or ring outis

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To further buff the new ring units

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Or if the kk duo is still solid for general use

atomic steeple
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@split beacon

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Paging dr blue

faint pivot
wild mango
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uh

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in story bosses too ig

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sudden arch
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THE TRIPLE STATUS TEAM IS REEEEEAAAAALLL.
doing a Charge + Rupture + Bleed team for my first 50 adversary run

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bless Rabbit heathcliff for being the glue that checks the boxes needed

worthy haven
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They are amazing ids

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I do be having fun with this team

faint pivot
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Lmfao

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A couple, a circus, and the guy they're about to traumatize

worthy haven
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Greg is here for that photoelectricity cause uh Albina Faust is a lil bit of a bum in her first form

faint pivot
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I know it's just a funny image

worthy haven
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True!

minor gust
worthy haven
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Ye

atomic steeple
faint pivot
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Like I'm guessing canon Dante unlocks them in the order of updates but

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God the interactions

cosmic gorge
atomic steeple
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Imagine a coworker you find fun and easygoing, or obnoxious and douchey, gets some mega tragic id just as you are starting the job

faint pivot
atomic steeple
faint pivot
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Ryoshu getting annoyed at how Caposault tries to strike casual conversation as if he always knew her before going red-eyed as soon as she recognizes his sword

atomic steeple
faint pivot
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Molar Sang CLASHING with Molar Ishmael because "WHY DO YOU HAVE SINCLAIR'S CHAINBLADE"

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Just realized that Rain and Olga might not be related but still

cosmic gorge
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Ishmael thwacking Heath and/or Dante for reminding her of her lost girlfriend (dant got the queequeeg ID in their first ten pull and wanted to try it out against the canto 2 mobs)

faint pivot
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The S.E.A. crashout happening early cause Dante also got Starsang

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...hah

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Imagining the panic Molar Ishmael & Molar Sinclair would have after seeing their coworkers manifest W Corp. gear

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They wouldn't know that they're the cleanup crew, only that they had privileged information that W Corp. would probably enjoy keeping secret

signal kindle
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Is the gesselschaft limbus company wiki down

atomic steeple
worthy haven
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eternal gull
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strange

faint pivot
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What Val thought her odds were

stoic fjord
vagrant dove
stoic fjord
vagrant dove
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Her fucking unloading all the barrels in her gunsword on the last coin

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Is so fucking peak

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Her kit sells the idea that she was an exceptionally talented swordswoman so well

stoic fjord
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KJH if the thumb duo allows us to run Tremor Poise Burn i will sacrifice 1% of the human population for the company's prosperity

keen palm
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This fuckin image gets me every time

stoic fjord
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callisto hong lu is cracked even at uptie 3

faint pivot
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⚠️ Canto 9 Spoilers Ahead ⚠️
영상을 시청한 후에 더보기란을 확인해 주세요!

【Limbus Company】 9장 삽입곡 'SAIKAI'에 담긴 이야기를
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커버를 허락해 주신 Project Moon과 Mili,
제작에 협력해 주신 성우 / 작가 / 음...

▶ Play video
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Canto 9 spoilers - it's out

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The unofficial cover of Saikai

stoic fjord
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fuck it's so peak tho

bronze zephyr
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O shit

dusty sigil
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Also man, now that we’re passed it

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What even was in the canto 9 leak?

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I luckily avoided it but now I can’t find it

faint pivot
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@ebon forge a question for thee when you wake up

stoic fjord
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Lord Hong Lu and Mao Faust look different today...
Full Run Un-cut: https://www.youtube.com/live/Ihug63Jp8pI?si=xFCjSD8MC1zlpX9w

0:00 Disclaimer and Members Mentions
1:05 Starter Buffs and EGO Gifts
1:20 Floor 1 Boss (Cut.)
3:02 Floor 2 Boss
4:26 Floor 3 Boss
7:17 Floor 4 Boss
8:35 Floor 5 Boss (Cut.)
10:35 [INF] Floor 6 Boss (Cut.)
11:44 [INF]...

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I need to get all of the nursefather and apprentice IDs fully upgraded so I can do a duo run with each pair

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who invited these guys 💀

keen palm
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Nshu?

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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but also yes AoE

keen palm
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I guess Contempt Awe overclock do be like

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The Best Thing Ever

stoic fjord
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I lowk forgot to switch from triliochosm to C.A.

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it's fine we ball

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I don't have TS4 C.A. anyways this is maybe better for now

keen palm
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I mean Trilochosm is just like

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generally good

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"Deal damage to deal more damage"

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"Yes Ryoshu"

split beacon
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it's 04/04 soon

stoic fjord
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ryoshu birthday soon..... :D

keen palm
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It's her birthday in Korea

stoic fjord
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oh yippee

main scaffoldBOT
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Wonder when we’re gonna get it, probably in 2-3 weeks since the intervallo IDs will delay it

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) This genuinely has me so excited for the valencina rodion id

bronze zephyr
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yeah im curious

keen palm
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The Ryoshu ibrthday art is out '

main scaffoldBOT
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I don’t think that rat is long for this world 😔

tired canyon
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Maybe I am stupid but I can't understand what's so bad about this

I tried for a while

split beacon
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It's reflective of how unsettlingly cold and distant Rien is

stoic fjord
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notably, it's him responding to something that ||directly, word for word reminds him of the day he watched his family get slaughtered and just watched without doing anything||

split beacon
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In context, ||Rien just heard the dying words of his daughter who he watched die in front of him repeated by his adopted daughter who he's actively condemning to a similar fate|| and was able to blow it off with "that was really 'effective'"

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Rien is a twisted bastard who truly regards language as a tool and a weapon rather than a means of communication because he doesn't communicate with anyone

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There is nothing in his heart and he shares himself with no one, him being one of the primary parental figures in Ryoshu's life is very explanatory of why she's kinda screwed up

ebon forge
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Mind, San might not even be a real thing

split beacon
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she grew up with a parental figure she could never trust, never understand, and never predict his responses to her actions

stoic fjord
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there's a reason his name is Rien.

(French for "nothing", roughly.)

split beacon
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which is kind of important for kids. they need to have a sense of like, how the push and pull of social interaction works in order to get used to other people and how to talk to them, and Ryoshu never had that, and as a result it's very unsurprising that she's intensely isolated and uninterested in talking to other people or interacting with them except purely on her own, controlled terms

ebon forge
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Rien La

tired canyon
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....Eh

I don't know

Like,it's exaggerated because it's a project moon story but it feels pretty

Normal. Doesn't strike me as something that horrible.

split beacon
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It’s horrible because it’s normal

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It’s something that happens to real people (in degrees) and it screws them up for life

stoic fjord
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the fundamentals of Canto 9 are that this is all horrible because it's so real

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and normal

stoic fjord
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CALM DOWN HONG LU WHY ARE YOU OUTDAMAGING MANAGER DON

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what are they feeding bro 😭

main scaffoldBOT
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That’s the fundamentals of a lot of project moon honestly

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) the fundamentals of Canto 9 are that this is all horrible because it's so real

main scaffoldBOT
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Art

Madam Poggers (or Juniper) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) what are they feeding bro 😭

split beacon
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I mean yeah the fundamentals of writing impactful tragedy is heightening real suffering with artful exaggeration

stoic fjord
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yeah mb I was not cooking there

eternal gull
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||dont forget the fortold splitting up of limbus company!||

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tired canyon
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I guess I can't get it

Sorry.

faint pivot
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If you'll excuse the awkward turn of phrase

split beacon
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Like the horror of Canto 9 is that you either relate to one of the ways the Nursefathers mistreat Ryoshu or you recognize it in people around you

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eternal gull
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like yeah you could make normal art with paints but all you've been taught is how to do gore art and the specific hues of blood

faint pivot
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He at least had the remaining self-agency to discover he was Poland

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Or rather, a copy of a Library-found Fixer

eternal gull
split beacon
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On another level, Rien saying “that was really effective” to Ryoshu’s impassioned plea is, well, it’s twisted

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He threw her completely genuine feelings back in her face and said “nice try”

neat cedar
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but it hurt

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amd he knew it wouldmhurt

split beacon
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I mean he deliberately crafted it to hurt. He wanted to hurt her, and he chose the words that would twist the knife as much as possible

eternal gull
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unfortunately I am a Rien/index apologist so give me a moment

fluid whale
neat cedar
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See, i believe some.part of him.really.felt ot

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butnhe's also a sick.fuck

keen palm
# split beacon Rien is a twisted bastard who truly regards language as a tool and a weapon rath...

I doooooo think this is maybe too reductive? Rien is clearly sentimental as evidenced by his memories of his daughter, his habit of not finishing stories so he never has to admit anything is over, and him releasing Alyssa simply because Sora asked, and I think him admitting what she did was effective was him genuinely admitting it, but he is far too emotionally broken and stuck in the Index to really have that stop him from doing what he's doing

neat cedar
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and just as much an.abuser as the other Nursefather's

faint pivot
# neat cedar but it hurt

Even if those weren't the ||dying words of his dead daughter||, tis like responding to a beggar asking for food by taking a 100 dollar bill and ripping it to shreds in front of them

eternal gull
stoic fjord
split beacon
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Oh yeah I mean, he’s not completely soulless, there’s aspects to which it’s ambiguous if he’s doing this because he’s a monster who wants to hurt Ryoshu or because he’s a deeply wounded man who can’t handle his feelings

neat cedar
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Both can be true

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is my take

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I very much feel.he doed care but also he likes using words to hurt people

split beacon
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I do think that he really does use language as a weapon before a means of communication though, it’s a theme of his character that speech and turns of phrase are a game to him

eternal gull
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keen palm
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See I never got him doing that

fluid whale
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damn, I missed when it got posted

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mb

keen palm
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He speaks incredibly plainly

split beacon
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The whole “fpoon” thing, and how he manipulates Sora, for example

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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He speaks very deliberately

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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like- yeah. he uses language precisely, and the plainess I think is part of it for the bits that deviate

split beacon
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It’s not about complicated turns of phrase, it’s that he knows how to talk like there’s nothing below the surface yet leave his words’ meanings to the interpretation of the listener

neat cedar
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He says what he says for a reason, evennif said reason is because the prescripts told him to do so

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you don't need to be grandiose to be very good at using words to manipulate or hurt people

stoic fjord
split beacon
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Yeah well, that may be the gag

neat cedar
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still l9ve the detail

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that the beeper prescripts

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are short, flat and immedieate

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while paper ones are more weird and esoteric

faint pivot
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I think that's for Rien's specifically

cloud wadi
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He might also just be reading off a script

split beacon
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But the fpoon thing for me is very important in that it has no purpose unless it’s to show that Rien clearly has a mind to twist language and logic with his speech

stoic fjord
neat cedar
faint pivot
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Sora gets weirder ones, Soradon too

neat cedar
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not really

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they're still pretty short

faint pivot
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Oh wait

cloud wadi
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It shows that Rien has a very particular emphasis on the meaning of words

faint pivot
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Immediate as in

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"Do this right now", mb

cloud wadi
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That he cares deeply about

stoic fjord
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I think they might've gone a bit overboard with the new ring IDs

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this guy is uh

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cracked as fuck. holy shit.

tired canyon
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It just feels like how life is. I don't get it.

Anyway here's something I found

https://youtu.be/0WA2NX4kPSI?si=XKEn-zqaSdBBc_mp

⚠️ Canto 9 Spoilers Ahead ⚠️
영상을 시청한 후에 더보기란을 확인해 주세요!

【Limbus Company】 9장 삽입곡 'SAIKAI'에 담긴 이야기를
9장 주요 인물들의 목소리로 불러 보았습니다. 🎤

커버를 허락해 주신 Project Moon과 Mili,
제작에 협력해 주신 성우 / 작가 / 음...

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neat cedar
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see, he's cracked

neat cedar
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but not kore cracked then index sang i think

tired canyon
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neat cedar
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and they have a bit of a wind up

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to.get to their show stopper

stoic fjord
keen palm
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Sora and Rien both get beepers

stoic fjord
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fuuuuuuck this team is going to be insane

neat cedar
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s3-2 being one and done helps a lot

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with balancing it out

stoic fjord
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I can't wait for Valencina Rodion to become the new solo queen with the evade (if this happens)

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ebon forge
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Also just saw something

split beacon
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To be honest I doubt that the Nursefathers team is gonna be a cohesive unit

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It would be weirdly counter to the story lol

neat cedar
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genuinely

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i think Middle outis

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will.pr9b be the strongest

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mechanically

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because the middle.team isnthe finger

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with the most support

ebon forge
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Albina Fau’s S3-2 is EXACTLY the same as Callistlu’s S3-2 minus the attack weight

split beacon
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Bait used to be believable

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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i doubtnit will

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but part of me wonders

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if the Ryoshu seasonal id

keen palm
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I feel like even if they have no synergy they are all so individually fucking cracked that they will clean house for the rest of yhe game

neat cedar
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will get the spicy urple coin

stoic fjord
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highly doubt it

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tired canyon
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I still want to know

What ryoshu are we getting

Muga?shiomi?

neat cedar
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Shiomi

faint pivot
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Fau has 1 less coin, less weight, 1 less Bleed pot (lmao), and no buff to Ringers

split beacon
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Shiomi

neat cedar
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Muga is more annupgrade of base sinner than an ID

split beacon
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also project moon do the funniest thing and make Matthoutis an ally attack ID

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I would chuckle.

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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MISSED

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Sorry 😭😭

faint pivot
ebon forge
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I made a mistake I mistook them lmao

faint pivot
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You're more right than you think though

worthy haven
faint pivot
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No wait

faint pivot
worthy haven
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Rien is just so strong cause sinking is an unbelievablecracked team

faint pivot
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Wrong image though, lemme help with that

worthy haven
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well "sinking"

stoic fjord
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status synergy: KILLING YOU WITH HAMMERS AND SWORDS AND KNIVES AND SPEARS AND GUNS AND-

faint pivot
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You can practically flip through these @ebon forge

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...flip isn't the right word but-

ebon forge
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Yeah normal version is almost exactly the same lol

stoic fjord
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they're indentical

faint pivot
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Hang on

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Faust

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Has a higher o-lvl

ebon forge
faint pivot
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She has 65 somehow

faint pivot
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It's the same with their source material too lmao

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Albina goes harder with Fascia than Callisto does with Tibia lmao

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I suppose Callisto & Callu had more important things to focus on

worthy haven
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well calisto was a higher level then valencina so he def has seen a lot of combat

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but i would put his combat ability prob def below her

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worthy haven
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ye for sure but Valencina is also a smoke war veteran which i do put stonks in

stoic fjord
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I think in her prime she'd be cracked but also yeah she's boozed up and years out of genuine practice at this point so

faint pivot
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I feel like she isn't just a homebody

stoic fjord
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oh most likely not but I still think she's washed up

faint pivot
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Same

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I was about to say "if Rien and Callisto remain useful to their finger then surely Val would be too" but

worthy haven
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with the exception of rien prob they are all basically washed up even if that does lessen their individual power

faint pivot
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I can't think of how the Thumb would get a net benefit from her

neat cedar
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also

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Unlike rien and callisto

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she was straight up disgraced and exiled

worthy haven
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just like mathias yeppers

stoic fjord
ebon forge
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I find it interesting how the middle works

stoic fjord
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she is not doing shit for the thumb anymore

worthy haven
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Callisto was seemingly ousted due to their inability to make any other magnum opus due to how they see their art

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and the rest of the maestros were not chill with that at all

neat cedar
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unofficially exiled

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for what they suspected himnof doing

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is the most damning condembation the middle.has ever faced

faint pivot
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I mean tbf

neat cedar
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as far as like

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narrative goes

faint pivot
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If they publically kicked him out, it'd go against their whole shtick

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Rules for thee, not for me!

neat cedar
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Not really

faint pivot
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Up until that becomes a problem

keen palm
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Well he was kicked out in every way that mattered

neat cedar
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at least, not their public facing schtick

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No he wasn't

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he srill is able

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to get money

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from lower members

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he's still a part of them, just not as prestigious

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like

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Matthias faced

keen palm
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He begged for money from people he knew

neat cedar
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0 real consequneces or diaruptions to his life style

keen palm
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Thats not an official capacity thing

neat cedar
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Not people he knew

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underlings

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like the implicit vibe is he can get money from lower ranking middle members

keen palm
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Him doing that was demeaning and embarassing though

faint pivot
# neat cedar at least, not their public facing schtick

Yeah but I'm talking bout the more important bit - kicking Matthias without killing him would tell every Middle member "hey if you want out, stir some absolute shit, back it up, and we'll leave you be"

Killing Matthias would be inefficient and also undermine group cohesion. Same outcome either way

neat cedar
#

is it?

keen palm
#

Yes

neat cedar
#

for him?

keen palm
#

He explicitly says so

faint pivot
#

He has a line saying that yea

neat cedar
#

huh, must have missed that somewhere

faint pivot
#

Twas...

keen palm
#

Its the same line you are referencing

faint pivot
#

I believe when he got the purple teddy bear?

worthy haven
#

crazy how much matthias tanked middle stocks

keen palm
#

It is the same text box even

faint pivot
#

At the cost of me wishing him interesting times in hell ofc

#

But who didn't do that for free

neat cedar
#

ChenShrug it has been a minute since i've read the canto

#

but in general

#

Matthias behavior

#

was not new

#

the thing with laevatain was just a height which broke kayfabe

#

so the middle had to do something

#

but i think, for how the middle says they operate

gentle mulch
#

Canto 9 was KJH reaching out to me and saying "yk maybe we can forgive our mothers someday" and i said yes KJH, someday

signal kindle
#

The way Matthias treats kira is driving me to speed run through canto 8 so I can kill Matthias faster

neat cedar
#

it is telling that the punishment for suspected fratacide

#

isnjust

#

soft-exile

faint pivot
#

Tbf

neat cedar
#

These are the same guys who maimed and mutilate people for just looking at you wrong

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

much less actually hurting them

worthy haven
#

ye they way they dealt with matthias made me "respect" the middle so much less and I ring pretty true with what moses says about the middle

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

Ricardo is still my GOAT

#

but yeah Moses and the Indigo Elder are right about the middle

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

They're shit but their coping mechanism is at least viable like the other fingers, is my thoughts on them

keen palm
#

I respect the middle more because Matthias has two themes and they both fuck

neat cedar
#

lol

#

fair mood

#

atill crazy to me

stoic fjord
#

okay yeah true the Middle has excellent music

faint pivot
#

The Middle is compelling in how gosh damn corrupt they are

neat cedar
#

that the kira moment

#

got fully animated

keen palm
#

I'm still joining

#

Theme of me kicking woke moralists up snd down the street 55 times because they scuffed my big sister's new shoes

worthy haven
#

ranking for me themwise is pinky, thumb, index and then ring/middle

faint pivot
worthy haven
#

oh wait

faint pivot
#

It'll buff out, relax!

tired canyon
#

People saying for Ricardo to adopt Kira but

I am sorry he would brain her

worthy haven
#

I might be mixing up pinky and araya theme

faint pivot
#

The Pinky had a whole theme?

worthy haven
#

ye!

stoic fjord
worthy haven
#

well "shiomi" had a theme

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

what?

tired canyon
#

What

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

the Blade Lineage is Kim's syndicate

faint pivot
#

Cause like

#

Their mentor, the head of the syndicate went legit

stoic fjord
#

oh right yeah

#

...maybe they all joined limbus company idfk

faint pivot
#

I hope so

#

Cause like, damn

#

I'd hate for the two to be the sole survivors

stoic fjord
worthy haven
#

oh wait we uh

#

know apparently that the BL in distric 19 were slaughtered by KK

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

Kim and Aeng Du

#

are in fact

tired canyon
#

...man

The one thing that made me go "wait what" during the canto is

Kim is still recovering from the battle we had with him

It's been MONTHS

how badly does distorting someone fuck them up

neat cedar
#

the only blade lineage members lefr

#

Kim.killed the ones inside when he distorted

faint pivot
#

I hate being right late at night 😭

worthy haven
#

ye and the remaining BL seemingly got killed in s corp

stoic fjord
#

fuuuuck

faint pivot
#

Hohenheim wouldn't be ||joining us on the raid|| if distortion was what caused his enervation

neat cedar
#

also prob just

#

mentally drained

tired canyon
#

We were literally carrying k corp ampules to the battle

faint pivot
#

We were valued assets

neat cedar
#

Like truly think his recovery

#

is morr a mental anguish beat

faint pivot
#

Dias skimping?

#

For her favorite group of goobers?

stoic fjord
#

I think having to come to terms with the death of the blade lineage would be part of it, alongside everyone else yeah

stoic fjord
#

we are not her favorite group of goobers

faint pivot
#

Talking bout LCD

stoic fjord
#

we're valued assets but Dias's favorite goober is-

#

ohhhhhhhhhhh

#

isn't it like, Moses specifically

#

I remember her not giving a shit about Vespa

faint pivot
#

Perhaps but Vespa isn't being sent to suicide missions like the LCA

#

And that's affection enough for me

keen palm
#

All the blade lineage are dead except the two ya

stoic fjord
#

why is UT3 callisto lu genuinely cooking MD rn

keen palm
#

I replaced all his skills with sk3

#

And its hilarious

#

Everything died by coin 2

atomic steeple
atomic steeple
bronze zephyr
stoic fjord
#

real asf

atomic steeple
atomic steeple
eternal gull
atomic steeple
eternal gull
atomic steeple
#

Difficulty fitting in with other kids
Busy parents
Brother who became a deranged asshole who will plainly ignore facts
Then getting more time with parents but due to their issues interactions were nonsensical at times

keen palm
#

Okay, let's do the ultimate thread

#

Which Nursefather counts as a mom and which counts as a dad

#

My list is:
Rien, Shiomi, Matthias: Mom
Valencia, Callisto: Dad

main scaffoldBOT
#

😕

atomic steeple
#

On the note of rien, another thing is how complicit he is in hurting women because he's supposed to
Shiomi and the SA metaphor of being forced to have a child
The harm that happens to his previous wife and all his daughters
I realize he's a mix of yoshihide, horikawa and the servant who narrates hell screen

#

The servant sympathizes with the kid, but doesn't oppose the lord. He helps once, but otherwise is just an observer

neat cedar
#

Yeeerp

#

my fav part of Canto 9

#

is how they handle the characters representing aspects

#

of the core text

cloud wadi
#

LCE Greg made reaching floor 15 as charge rupture team almost trivial

#

Just converted all of his skills to s3s

#

And just blended the enemy

#

Literally blended

stoic fjord
#

"brrrrrrrt"

#

callisto lu is currently mulching the enemy for me

quaint cliff
#

-# @te4_p0t

#

it’s an animated gif on xitter

#

but y’know, can’t post the link here because we’re taking a stance or something I guess

stoic fjord
#

the nursefather difference

#

bro used no E.G.Os

#

N Corp Ryo was carried by trilio

atomic steeple
#

I'm curious when we'll get more bleed tremor units

#

Oh, maybe tremor bleed ego

keen palm
#

Next Canto possibly

atomic steeple
#

Hoping we get n corp units with that, yeah

neat cedar
#

insane

worthy haven
#

gotta say really happy how they turned out. Strong but not like mao/kod levels of wtf

atomic steeple
#

The sheer bleed count is so nice

worthy haven
#

ye. I am really happy being able to run bleed without fiends

atomic steeple
#

Thinking of build an hemorrhage team, though I still am missing allen gregor

keen palm
#

I will say

#

I don't actually know what triggers Callu's fuckin

#

Super Skill 3?

#

I only got it once in all 15 floors

atomic steeple
#

It is a countdown

#

He has a status that drains over the combat

worthy haven
#

you start with 21 stacks of tableu and then lose

#

it is really nice that you are not forced to use the s3-2 and yo ucan keep it for when you want to do it

cloud wadi
#

And with all the fusion charge gifts

#

And charge rupture gifts

#

He can use the empowered version every turn

#

And blend a billion people

#

Anyways

#

How the hell am I gonna deal 20k damage in one shot

keen palm
#

AH okay

#

So because he was the only ring unit, I barely ever saw it

atomic steeple
#

Yup
He likes teamwork

#

He loves engagement

keen palm
stoic fjord
eternal gull
#

you know what i'd like him not to show.

#

his potential.

stoic fjord
#

should I allow myself a pull package as a little treat or shall I practice restraint

#

i think I shall practice restraint

#

22 dollars could get me an entire other game

cosmic gorge
#

Restraint

eternal gull
#

restraint

#

gamba is funni
spending money to gamba is not.

atomic steeple
dusty sigil
#

Huh

#

With the intervallo having a ring focus

#

And us just getting the RING IDs

#

What’ll be the new IDs?

cosmic gorge
#

Matthias Outis bc we will be having kira as the duetoragonist

dusty sigil
#

Oh yah that’d make sense

atomic steeple
#

Plus some ring person probably

#

Like the bloodfiend elder

main scaffoldBOT
#

Yeh, Callisto Hong Lu's passive that gives him charge when entering an encounter seems to max out at 5 Ring IDs and we only have 4

Pandora(She/her)(aka WaxMask) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Plus some ring person probably

stoic fjord
#

FULL RING BLEED!!!!!! WOOOOOOO

worthy haven
dusty sigil
#

Oh yah I forgot new characters can exist

fickle crown
#

Shicliff crawled so Youcliff could fucking sprint

#

"Haha I reflect damage!"
Youcliff:

#

This is the second time a Heathcliff ID just completely brute forced the encounter due to grey coat shenanigans

stoic fjord
#

by nmoroder

I think that's what the watermark says

ebon forge
#

Rien jumpscare

cosmic gorge
#

Fairy godmother binah...

stoic fjord
#

why would you fucking say this dante

#

it's so over

bronze zephyr
#

ahaaa

gentle mulch
#

THE LIBRARY LBLUE

fickle crown
#

Suddenly, low quality

karmic escarp
#

pm cosplay meet at sakuracon was awesome

dusty sigil
quaint cliff
ebon forge
#

Oh yeah I saw some people talking about Callisto Hong and I see a lot of people talking about how Callisto could’ve cooked but the fucker just needed to look outside of himself as material for his art

neat cedar
#

Not even so much as outside himself

#

going of the new id, man lost sight of the vision

#

Got caught up in trying to make a universal masterpiece

faint pivot
#

He could've done some REAL damage with that last one

#

Unfortunately the Saru was the last time he ever came close to striking a chord

main scaffoldBOT
#

How the heck does Zwei Sinclair manage to do slash damage with this thing

neat cedar
#

if u swing hard enough

#

anything can be a cutting implement

stoic fjord
#

I need more IDs... I need all the IDs....

#

Double statuses... triple statuses...

atomic steeple
#

I need bleed

#

All the bleed

worthy haven
#

I need like 1 more good pride poise id

faint pivot
#

Fell Bullet can sustain his own stack

#

Use his counter to stably build up Poise, then his s1 to maintan the count

atomic steeple
#

What is all the bleed stuff walp has? I have sanguine desire, harmony, and killer hong lu

faint pivot
atomic steeple
#

Cool

faint pivot
#

Wait, not pregor

#

Allegory

atomic steeple
#

Pregor is prist

#

Yeah

split beacon
#

Not to be confused with peggor

atomic steeple
#

You know, people who feel a pressure to have their disabilities "fixed" might flock n corp ideologies
Then get put under horrible standards anyway

cosmic gorge
#

They give you flesh grafts to "fix" whats wrong with you

#

Probably

atomic steeple
#

Nah

#

They like the hardships of disability, I think

#

An human experience

split beacon
#

Eh, I feel like N Corp would be fine with restoring limbs as long as the limbs are according to the original plan

#

The problem is replacing human experience with something foreign

#

Regeneration wouldn’t be an issue

atomic steeple
#

Oh I meant they wouldn't force people to regenerate

#

They'd see someone who doesn't buy a heal (whether from poverty or choice) as admirable and human

#

And probably farm canned experience from them

main scaffoldBOT
#

Their inquisitors (Guido especially) seem to use a lot of K Corp ampule fluid to heal themselves yeah

Lunatic Blue ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Regeneration wouldn’t be an issue

atomic steeple
#

But also would approve of someone healing

faint pivot
#

Damn shame Guidosault isn't as durable as his NPC counterpart

neat cedar
main scaffoldBOT
#

Yeh
Admittedly Guido's durability was more that he kept not dying rather than him being durable in a fight

red_d_terrarian ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Damn shame Guidosault isn't as durable as his NPC counterpart

faint pivot
#

True

main scaffoldBOT
#

Guidosault UT5 idea: the first three times he dies he instead gets sent to the front of the backup units' deployment order with half HP

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
#

He is in a bad position

#

Where he is a crap unit

#

But

#

Strategies exist around him being crappy

fickle crown
#

Hohenheim didn't even get to see that damage reflection pay off here lmao

#

Ish kicked him a little too hard

faint pivot
#

Called the breaking slam for a reason!~

fickle crown
#

Also I definitely wouldn't have survived this if it weren't for the fact I got the funny HP extension gift a floor earlier

bronze zephyr
#

im so happy

faint pivot
#

Congrats!

#

The benefiit it gives is gonna offset the losses you took, I'd say

quaint cliff
#

realization:

#

Ryoshu’s time sense would make her a great FG player

faint pivot
#

FG?

tiny cave
#

Fighting Game

elder wigeon
#

Do you guys agree?

uneven canopy
#

they made gregor ollllllld

cosmic gorge
#

Feels like two, three layers of memetic irony that i cant exactly parse

#

The only thing im parsing is that neither of the images are who the caption says they are

And that the format alludes to a specific shonen fight type descriptor that i dislike

eternal gull
elder wigeon
atomic steeple
#

Could see weird sellers dresses as cultists in the city

cosmic gorge
#

This reminds of how i wish Mayors' distorted design could be a little better

Her 0rb is a nice reference to the Sinking and Poise ego gifts bc those are her boss keywords
But shes a little too derivative design wise to that guy whose name starts with M

cosmic gorge
signal kindle
#

Poor yi sang 😭

faint pivot
#

It just hit me

#

That Sinclair is SECOND

#

HE'S THE SECOND WEAKEST

faint pivot
#

THAT'S 4 SPOTS FROM THE MEDIAN HOW WEAK ARE YOU YI SANG

gentle mulch
#

yi sang regularly eats poisonous foods

#

I'm sure sinclair actually has like nutrients

faint pivot
#

Hang on I need to find that Morositas Yi Sang meme rq

#

Thank you Faust for sharing this gem with us

#

(That is the Morositas Yi Sang post. Spoils canto 9.)

#

Y'all think Yi Sang relied on his friends for his diet up until the breakup?

#

Hence why he eats flowering potatoes?

stoic fjord
#

I have an idea

We send base yi sang against an enemy, use morositas, and then have the udjat mow down the now level 20 enemy

This is how we defeat the Head

stoic fjord
#

If/when we get IDs of The Head

#

Who do you think would get what?

cosmic gorge
#

Arbiter Outis and Ryoshu
Claw Mersault and Hong Lu

#

Idk vibes

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

A shame Beholders don't see combat

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Beholder Faust would be my nomination then

stoic fjord
#

I wonder if the LCB, with our strongest IDs, could defeat a single Claw

cosmic gorge
#

Regular Claw or an elite one

dusty sigil
#

I really like Queen Bee Meursault in mirror dungeons because with the superheated machetes ego gift you can actually maintain a bleed stack super well on burn

#

So I can get that plus a few bleed EGO gifts allowing my non bleed IDs to inflict bleed

#

And actually get a big bleed stack that doesn’t need EGOs to maintain

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

There are elite claws?

cosmic gorge
#

In Ruina ||the guy with Zena is a juiced up Claw no||

keen palm
#

Ya

#

Meanwhile every other Claw seen has been a "regular" one

cosmic gorge
#

Like the Claws from Birdwatching are less juiced up

#

I assume

keen palm
#

We can't defeat Stars of the City just yet

cosmic gorge
#

We gotta jump their ass

dusty sigil
#

Under pretty special circumstances but we still beat him

gentle mulch
#

defeat? ehh

#

still holding out on that

cosmic gorge
#

<Mersault. Rienclair. Jump his ass>
"Yes Manager."

gentle mulch
#

but then again the wisest move would be just to kill dante so they'd need some plot armor in that regard

gentle mulch
dusty sigil
#

Also man chat, speaking of powerscaling

dusty sigil
#

I think it’s kinda annoying that mang is now being treated like goddamn haki from one piece

cosmic gorge
#

With the Dante Spells

dusty sigil
#

Where it’s now essential to hang with the top tiers

gentle mulch
#

Dante spell of "DONT FUCKING ATTACK ME"

dusty sigil
#

Like Matthias didn’t have a whole passive saying explicitly that mang is for dumb nerds who don’t just hit hard enough

lean fjord
#

You totally can do stuff without Mang, it just helps like any other tool or technique

gentle mulch
dusty sigil
#

Obviously mang isn’t just for dumb nerds but still it’s annoying seeing people act like people without mang can’t match mang

dusty sigil
#

Like all other avenues

lean fjord
#

Yeah

cosmic gorge
#

I hope Kali doesnt retroactively have Mang

lean fjord
#

She wouldn't

gentle mulch
#

i think

#

the new bleed duo dont have mang, they just have Aura and Hype Bloments

lean fjord
#

Because Kali's whole thing is that she's not particularly skilled, just really really strong

dusty sigil
#

my real pet peeve is that there’s no way in hell Jia Qiu is stronger then Kali or Roland just because he has a lot of mang

#

Jia Qiu is a BUM

gentle mulch
#

Kali definitely not

#

like 100% no

dusty sigil
#

Who’s best feat is killing a WEAKENED LEI HENG

lean fjord
dusty sigil
#

WHO LET HIM HIT HIM

gentle mulch
#

Gebura, ehhh, exception for library reasons but also no

#

Roland also a library exception but also no

lean fjord
#

Roland could do it I think, if someone taught him

#

But also not like he needs it

dusty sigil
#

I mean anyone could I think

gentle mulch
#

roland definitely could do it, but why use mang when you can just draw from the light of the library that kills you and turns you into a book?

dusty sigil
#

He’s got plenty of emotional memories to draw from

gentle mulch
#

like a better option is right there

stoic fjord
#

The flow?

dusty sigil
#

Yah

gentle mulch
#

not enough

#

for a claw yet

#

we need to plot auramor farm

dusty sigil
#

I mean the real answer is that the flow wouldn’t even let us fight a claw yet

#

It doesn’t just guarantee victory, it also means we avoid fights we can’t handle

#

Like Callisto without Dante and the rest of the sinners

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
dusty sigil
#

Don coulda taken off her shoes and probably kill him but that would mess up the flow so she wasn’t allowed

gentle mulch
#

I like Jia Qiu because he's H Corp's best aura farmer not because he's strong

dusty sigil
lean fjord
# dusty sigil He’s got plenty of emotional memories to draw from

For some reason this made something click for me

Rien having Wrath as a sin affinity on Furioso always felt weirdly out of place for me
But I think that's the point, it's more than anything else him just copying Roland as best as he can, even though it's not how Rien normally is
And Roland definitely would have Wrath

gentle mulch
#

he's constantly hitting the belt grab like he could whip out a piece but instead he just sends the mao to kill you

lean fjord
#

I do think Jia Qiu is pretty strong tbf

gentle mulch
#

he is

lean fjord
#

We haven't really seen him actually do much when he's giving it effort yet

gentle mulch
#

I think we're still in Urban Nightmare in terms of like. weight classes above/below that we interact with

dusty sigil
#

I mean yah he is I just think calling him a bum is funny so I will continue to do it

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
#

Excited for the finger Bow-bell

dusty sigil
gentle mulch
#

ive got a lot of SWEEPING AMBITIONS for H Corp

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

you'll never survive the NIGHT here

dusty sigil
gentle mulch
#

you'll just be piles of guts for the BACKSTREETS when we're through

#

GEHEHEHE

dusty sigil
#

I swear I’m good at writing and the English language

gentle mulch
#

YOULL NEVER GUESS WHAT I HAVE IN STORE

#

IT'LL SWEEP YOU OFF YOUR FEET

stoic fjord
#

Meursault, crush this guy's skull.

cosmic gorge
#

Are we getting heishous for the sweeper intravello rerun

dusty sigil
#

Maybe

#

We don’t know yet

gentle mulch
stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

here's my prediction

stoic fjord
#

Fr though I think we get Meursault Heishou to finish the set and then someone else

gentle mulch
#

we get a meursault heishou and like.

#

one of the other faction family

#

like jia qiu's group or.

#

even.

stoic fjord
#

ZIGONG PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ZIGONG ID

gentle mulch
#

zigong commander id

#

it'd be everywhere

#

like it'd just go everywhere

dusty sigil
#

Meursault Zigong

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
stoic fjord
#

I wonder how she would play alongside/differently from Hong Lord

gentle mulch
#

i hope shes like

#

a sorta 7assoc thing where she amps up weaknesses

cosmic gorge
#

I hope shes from a different mirror world

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

we got firefist office

#

the guy who had 3 lines

#

who fucking knows

stoic fjord
#

surely they would complete the trio

#

ignore fullstop office

dusty sigil
#

Unironically thought Meursault needs a seasonal ID

gentle mulch
#

butler sinclair

stoic fjord
dusty sigil
#

he doesn’t seem to be getting a HOS ID

stoic fjord
#

please. please stephanclair I don't care if you're like B tier in the modern meta I need to run a trio MDE with you and the other two

atomic steeple
cosmic gorge
#

Maybe a seasonal salt in canto 9.5

stoic fjord
atomic steeple
stoic fjord
#

or like. a fifth ring member.

cosmic gorge
#

Or maybe new ncorp salt to foreshadow canto 10 ficmery

#

Fuckery

stoic fjord
#

true

#

what was the thing about like

#

IDs to tease mechanics? I saw that mentioned as something common at the end of a season

gentle mulch
#

i need a kim upscale

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
#

Mirror World where Kim was in the LCD raid

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

im facading base meur onto everything because it is just so funny to see like

#

"Meursault. manifest hardblood armor"
"Yes Manager"

faint pivot
gentle mulch
#

"Meursault. Reuse your skill."
"Yes, Manager"

gentle mulch
faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

"Meursault, don't bother with anything comedic or silly, just kill them."

gentle mulch
#

"Meursault. Manifest EGO and complete your canto with the collection of the Golden Bough."
"... Yes, Manager."

atomic steeple
stoic fjord
#

"Meursault. Be emotionally open and vulnerable."
"...No, Manager."

atomic steeple
#

There was this convo on reddit that led to:
Dante: What I'm gonna say next will sound crazy, but may be the only way
M: Oui, manager
D: We must break a taboo of the Head
M:... You must have lost your mind

cosmic gorge
#

Accurate
Thats what he says when you make him do a Hopeless ego gift event

atomic steeple
#

Yeah

faint pivot
#

Well damn

stoic fjord
#

okay so with the april fool's event and Faust saying they needed to break a taboo for the bongy guards to come

...I'm fucking terrified for Faust Canto

#

like this HAS to be foreshadowing

faint pivot
faint pivot
cosmic gorge
#

Still wild that they put character foreshadowing in the collab event

Actually i forgot what that foreshadowing was now (the same way the cast forgot the collab event)

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...you know if limbus was an anime the post canto 8 pre canto 9 Fuck Around In Hongyuan saga would be ripe for some filler episodes

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By mentioning the sensation of ms. sun

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...speaking of uh

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Hongyuan

cosmic gorge
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Distortion of the week

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Have we not left yet?

stoic fjord
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Stupid slice of life shit (Ishmael runs some DnD, Don talks about fixers, rodya takes greg for a food trip, dante asks yisang to stop dying from eating poisoned food sent by assassins, etc)

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Don and sinclair: Xichun is wearing us out

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lean fjord
eternal gull
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This keeps happening to me (missaying shit)

eternal gull
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it's been 3 days and we still can't beat ricardo wtf

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Oh speak of the devil
That's normal btw

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we've even switched our team to (almost) mono-blunt

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[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) it's been 3 days and we still can't beat ricardo wtf

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Where do you notice stuff starting to go wrong

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Are you meeting Ricky on low health? Is Rick simply refusing to stagger? Is he beating too many clashes?

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Etc.

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where the battle starts to get fucked is an important diagnostic tool

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we can beat the mooks at the start pretty well and we know that losing clashes to ricardo is a bit of a foregone conclusion (he's lv60 so. yeah) but we can't really deal damage to him even when debuffs himself

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closest we got was almost staggering him once

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I'm pretty sure that, sans M.H.C. you can still beat his clashes

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I'm forgetting if tis be with EGO or not but you can

stoic fjord
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fuck N Corp Sinclair

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I'm killing this guy

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Yi Sang, stab this guy

stoic fjord
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corroded and decided "7 coin harmony sounds good"

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fuck bleed burn

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I'm playing this team again after Matthias Outis drops

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with middle for bleed

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didn't use it enough last time so we'll try using it more this time but idk sometimes he still outclashes it

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[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) How much use do you get out of EGO

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Oh yeah SP

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How much do you meet him with

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usually 35 - 45

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lean fjord
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Are all your units leveled?

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yea, we probably just didn't try enough

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[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Are all your units leveled?

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most of our time was spent leveling blunt units because we almost completely lacked those in our main team

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whats the team

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I stop looking at his SP for 2 seconds

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he corrodes and does harmony

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he does 7 coins

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I restart the combat

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with my ENTIRE HEART AND SOUL

FUCK gripclair

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I keep forgetting about levels when giving advice

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I'm replacing him on burn bleed with middle sinclair the MOMENT I see Matthias Outis teased

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So one or two more tries should be harmless

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his days are NUMBERED. and that number is LOW

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I was using him since he was my only good sinclair ID

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Dw we will get a new n corp team soon

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FAshu, Beesault, lcb cliff (for monoblunt), lcb ishmael (for monoblunt/yoinking ricardo's counters with her high speed since she's immortal), WFaust (for monoblunt) and dieci rodya, all of them are lv40 uptie 3

ICEOUT Hardware (Ping 👍) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) whats the team

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Oh yeah you've been having Ish facetank yeah?

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She can't die if her allies live

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stoic fjord
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it's just that he's the third for burn/bleed dual status in MD

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time to level...

rabbit Heathcliff?

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blupcharge

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something like Fluid Sac might be good for healing if you can fuel it

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don't have it

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we just run base egos + manor ish

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understandable

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Bleed tremor could go well
Give n corp bonuses to lust damage and infliction of lust fragility

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gentle mulch
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fast ishmael is the right call

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Oh yeah since damage is the issue, have you been offsetting Ricardo's Evade?

gentle mulch
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chains of others is also recommended

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FAshu's extra attacks could be really good

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They'd trigger counters

gentle mulch
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LCB heathcliff im not sure about

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Still say she stays on the team tho

gentle mulch
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W Faust is goood i think?

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here's my suggestion

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wait