#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.

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gentle mulch
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SLACKING OFF

faint pivot
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We have multiple IDs of people that died. Perhaps...?

signal kindle
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A certain Sinclair scares me
Why the twink suddenly got aura

stoic fjord
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or at the very least he mentions that as a possibility

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Same

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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I mean

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We already got Poland

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And Iceland

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And the fucking LCD

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What's another?

stoic fjord
keen palm
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Valencia Rodion confirmed yaaaaay

stoic fjord
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world's most predictable outcome confirmed but I'm still happy

atomic steeple
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So by someone's calculations, bad end ryoshu counting as a ring member would fit the numbers for ring buffs and decreasing viewing the tableau

stoic fjord
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@ssmr_rolling on twitter

faint pivot
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I wonder when all the cards are on the table if there'll be a reason to opt out of 5 NF to bring one of their apprentices instead

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I sure hope so, cause it'd make buildcraft more interesting, but that remains to be seen so I'll hold out on hope

stoic fjord
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my guess is that you're intended to kind of go through all of them

atomic steeple
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Plus, it'll probably build up entangled life, which increases as you deal damage
The entire HoS would be like a battery for her

stoic fjord
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Rien Sang, use fell bullet

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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this is why you were sent to the House of Spiders

cosmic gorge
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hmm
so its

stoic fjord
lean fjord
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Fluffy fox tails 😌

cosmic gorge
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Ring: Fau and Hong
Middle: Outis and Ish
Index: Don and Sang
Thumb: Rodya and ???
Index: Sinclair and ???

not likely to be in the HoS: Greg
certainly one of the HoS: Ryoshu

stoic fjord
lean fjord
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I'm unsure if we're gonna get another Pinky NF

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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yes...

lean fjord
stoic fjord
stoic fjord
gentle mulch
stoic fjord
atomic steeple
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Gonna be heath

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For bigger thumb team

stoic fjord
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after the house of spiders we will only be one ID away from a thumb only burn tremor team

gentle mulch
bronze zephyr
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True

gentle mulch
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Like fuck it yk

cosmic gorge
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another sault with a weird relationship with a mom figure

bronze zephyr
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I’m hoping next banner is thumb Heath and Rodya

cosmic gorge
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is this why he gets shipped with outis sometimes

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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Im HOPING we get heath and rodion

bronze zephyr
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Yeeeh

gentle mulch
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but I also HOPED we'd have a burn season

cosmic gorge
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aside from a pair the spares situation

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but yes i also want licocliff

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luciocliff

bronze zephyr
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Maybe it’ll be thumb heath+Rodya then middle Outis

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Then 9.5-1

stoic fjord
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I'm personally guessing Middle Outis will come before the thumb duo

gentle mulch
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april 20ish should be the capstone i hope...

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please be monoblunt, outis

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i barely have a bluntlux team

stoic fjord
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my guess is that she might have modes? or that it'll be blunt skills that do additional slash damage on top of them

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since iirc we sort of have precedent for this

keen palm
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That's how Kiramael works yeah

stoic fjord
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..I was thinking one of the canto 6 bosses but yeah we also have actual IDs mb gang

bronze zephyr
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It’s also how Lamp Greg works iirc

faint pivot
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Oh misunderstood the question

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Lamp Greg does that with his s2 ya

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Ramdon too with her s3 iirc

atomic steeple
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Seeing ring faust's defense
Hope we get a disgorge innards skill someday like that

faint pivot
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I wonder where the names of the HoS people come from

atomic steeple
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Lemme work a lob corp! I can take Nothing There!

faint pivot
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-# Alongside your skin, bones and organs but we need not worry about that!

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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And the Pinkers

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(Water Margin)

cosmic gorge
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what does Callisto have to do with bears

cosmic gorge
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following red's question

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callisto is the name of a bear woman in greek myth

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and Callisto Limbus has

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no bearness to him

stoic fjord
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oh

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hrm

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

faint pivot
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Isn't Rien the only person to have any Greek ties?

bronze zephyr
faint pivot
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...I was gonna follow that up but I realized the Thing I was thinking of wasn't a Callisto

faint pivot
cosmic gorge
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Rien was the sea while Roland was the land

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or something

faint pivot
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I guess it's less the bear thing

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And moreso the transformation?

bronze zephyr
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I figured it was the fact it means beautiful

stoic fjord
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seeing screenshots of the new hidden pack

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one of them

lean fjord
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what is it?

atomic steeple
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Next week can't come soon enough
Wanna shard ring members

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Bleed count!

stoic fjord
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it has a unique ego gift

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I'm seeing reports of uhhh

lean fjord
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lmao

stoic fjord
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+100% damage

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+10 final power at max scaling

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and increased cost gain

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from the chicken gift

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which is batshit insane

lean fjord
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pretty nice

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but it's got to be pretty nice if you're not always gonna encounter it

faint pivot
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What 😭

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Jesus, +10 power

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...is there even a reason to differentiate base power and final power?

stoic fjord
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haven't confirmed but it's what I'm seeing in reports

stoic fjord
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otherwise, I don't know

faint pivot
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r i g h t

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I forgot about that lmao

stoic fjord
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inb4 capstone ryoshu has a multiplicative coin skill

stoic fjord
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I wonder if there are new MDE secret bosses yet?

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nothing stated

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unfortunate

keen palm
dusty sigil
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From @ landobristly

split beacon
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is there a whole comic to go with this

neat cedar
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nay. not yet, at least

stoic fjord
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hit pass level 600

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using the ticket was worth it

lean fjord
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I'm still at like 260 pass level myself haha

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not been very dilligent in my dailies

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but I'm still good on resources for now

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
dusty sigil
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Yah I saw the team posted above

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Looks neat

stoic fjord
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Theoretically the optimal bleed charge team would involve-

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Oh no not that one

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...I think not at least

dusty sigil
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Huh?

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Rhino Meursault?

stoic fjord
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I'm going for a team comp of uhhh

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Callisto Lu
Albina Faust
AEDD Gregor
REAP Ryoshu
Rabbit Heath ig
Ring Yi Sang
Some other charge or bleed

dusty sigil
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Ah

stoic fjord
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In an optimized team comp this would be rhinosault but I just genuinely hate him so he's not going on the team for MD

dusty sigil
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šŸ˜”

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How could you hate him so?

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Our original bleed count king

stoic fjord
keen palm
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I'm doing a MDE run

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and Callou just fucking 1-shot a floor 12 shocking centipede

stoic fjord
glad fable
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Was it the floor boss?

keen palm
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Yeah

neat cedar
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S3-2 does hit hard

glad fable
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Holy shit

neat cedar
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look, man said it's closing time

keen palm
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Floor 15

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FIRST EXTREME FIGHT IS PAPA DON AT FLOOR 15

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TIME TO DIE LMAO

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Nah no way I'm doing this without reflection of a relationship

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ah well

unique bane
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how are the new ids?

atomic steeple
worthy haven
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they are pretty good!

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but not like overwhelming

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they make cool teams

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like no fiend bleed plus hohenheim greg is super fun

atomic steeple
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You can run a ring team
Or a bloodfiend team with them

worthy haven
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ye

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altough I think they are not great with 5 fiends plus them

atomic steeple
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Curious to see tremor bleed with them

cloud wadi
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At least from math

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In terms of count and potency infliction

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Far outstrips any other alternative

atomic steeple
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Thus why I must shard them

gentle mulch
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should have about enough to get harmony next walp

cloud wadi
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Six potency 4 count on an s2 or smth crazy like that

ebon forge
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I love you Fau but you’re bankrupting me with all your IDs and EGO

atomic steeple
cloud wadi
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There has to be a burn focused ring who makes ceramic art

uneven canopy
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the art scene in the City has to be bonkers

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need to see if taggers still exist

wild mango
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Do they unseat the kk duo?

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Just trying to figure out the bleed meta

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I’d bet it’s the 3 core bloodfiends (manager, prince, princess) and the 4 ring ids?

bronze zephyr
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Ill be running bloodfiends minus Barber and the Ring 3*s

stoic fjord
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Callisto Hong Lu cannot possibly be good enough to secure Ring Outis a slot

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Is he truly that cracked?

wild mango
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she does do this

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and callisto lu and albina faust scale off of # of negative effects

stoic fjord
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Fair

bronze zephyr
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Still feel Pregor beats her out but

main scaffoldBOT
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She can't be that bad right?

Madam Poggers (or Juniper)ā€„ā†©ļø

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Callisto Hong Lu cannot possibly be good enough to secure Ring Outis a slot

stoic fjord
main scaffoldBOT
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Oh, does viewing the tableau count Hong Lu or just every other Ring ID?

ebon forge
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Hmmm Callisto Hongler is really interesting lore-wise

main scaffoldBOT
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stares in tremor
Yeah that’s acceptable if her existing buffs Hong Lu enough

Madam Poggers (or Juniper)ā€„ā†©ļø

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Iirc she's not actually all that bad, but her numbers aren't great since she's a 00

ebon forge
uneven canopy
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oh so that what sin resonance is

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no wonder people make envy res teams

main scaffoldBOT
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Okay we tried out the blade lineage IDs we have in the most recent walpurgisnacht easy mode and wow has it not aged well

Rose, Doll of the Labrynthā€„ā†©ļø

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) This is reminding us that we need to get around to building blade lineage (even if they’ve probably …

split beacon
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Which BL IDs

main scaffoldBOT
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Even To Claim Their Bones feels kind of mid unless Kimsault has taken damage

split beacon
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But also yeah the Blade Lineage has one(1) ID who people still stand up for and it’s Mentorsault

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Who is now sadly relegated to being a slot filler / Fell Bullet ammunition pick

main scaffoldBOT
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Faust, Don, and, Meursault
They um… didn’t do much of anything ngl

Lunatic Blueā€„ā†©ļø

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) Which BL IDs

unique bane
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i think muersault holds up ok but the rest are just ok

atomic steeple
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People are already talking of dropping manager don from bleed teams

main scaffoldBOT
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A a max poise TCTB did like 208 damage (though it was only against one target)

split beacon
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BL Faust and Don are completely washed

main scaffoldBOT
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Yeh

Lunatic Blueā€„ā†©ļø

[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) BL Faust and Don are completely washed

split beacon
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Manadon isnt washed tho that’s kinda absurd

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She still hits for like 1000 on a solid 3-2

atomic steeple
main scaffoldBOT
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And BL Sang is less good now since Rien Sang exists

atomic steeple
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A lot of people talk of running bleed without manager, like just meur or rodya from bloodfiends
And that kurokumo duo is more worth keeping in bleed teams

split beacon
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And FB sang

ebon forge
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we NEED to be able to play acquisition videos 😭

split beacon
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KK duo is better for keeping lean turncounts probably but I doubt they have better general utility than the-

split beacon
wild mango
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really funny that callisto/albina duo are so good that they make a 00 meta

split beacon
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Just hold down left click on the window for an ID

ebon forge
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oh seriously

split beacon
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Yes

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Anyways re bleed KK ish is the bleed team’s most superior bleed cash-out option

wild mango
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thats fair

split beacon
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Other than doing the Nsault gimmick

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Because of that, and because Bleed can’t actually proc its associated status on command, KK ish is always going to be relevant in low-turncount clear metas

wild mango
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i was more saying for general use i guess?

split beacon
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Nah for general use putting Manadon away is nuts

wild mango
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yeah

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id assume its manadon, princesault, princess rodion, and the 4 ring ids

split beacon
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She does great damage, regenerates, has YMC built on top of her, has skill2s that reward you for running the good Bloodfiends

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What’s not to love

atomic steeple
split beacon
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I mean yeah but it’s not Season 11 yet so we can take a chill pill lol

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When Dong-Hwan Heath releases maybe it’ll be the end of the Bloodfiend supremacy years

wild mango
atomic steeple
split beacon
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ā€œRewards you for running the good Bloodfiendsā€ implies you’re not getting punished for running the bad one

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Which is exactly how it works

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Manadon punishes you for taking the useless glutton

atomic steeple
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Why is barber outis so washed bruh

split beacon
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Her greed sickens me

atomic steeple
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Anyway, how is the enhanced s2 worse?

split beacon
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Same AoE but it burns the resource that makes Manadon’s S2-1 an AoE in the process for minimal gain

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Without Barber fielded you can just crank out S2s that hit multiple targets over and over, with her you end up being forced to spend Hardblood and lose that

worthy haven
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like kk duo, 4 ring and hohengreg is pretty fun!

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and 2/3 ring, kk duo and 2/2 fiend also gud

split beacon
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The actual reason Barber hurts the team btw is that she’s designed to act as a power outlet for Bloodfeast as a whole

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Her purpose is to turn excess Bloodfeast past what you can use otherwise into more power, but Bloodfeast is actually hard to get in huge quantities and it’s better to just gas up the rest of the team more frequently

atomic steeple
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Ah, a design fumble in their design of the la mancha team

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So if bloodfeast generation was faster she could be more viable

split beacon
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A good comparison point is MultiCrack Faust

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MC Faust is designed to have a rapid outlet for Charge because she can spend it faster than other characters, her paired 00 unit is designed to short circuit her Charge buildup cycle, and she has a means of unloading ALL the Charge count on stack at once via her A-res function on Skill 2

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Thusly she pairs really well with units that can accelerate the charge economy like AEDD Gregor and can quickly convert their Charge support into lots and lots of damage

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Barber could do the same thing if you could consistently generate hundreds of Bloodfeast per turn

keen palm
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(Aka MD)

cosmic gorge
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Didnt pull robot faust

I gotta wait a week to shard

split beacon
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Yeah in Mirror Dungeon, Barber Outis is able to hit her theoretical power spike and become a demon

atomic steeple
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Also, wish barber had a lust defense
For lust res on demand

split beacon
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Her gluttony sickens me

bronze zephyr
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According to roadmap Walp is still a ways away so fortunately I still have ~150 pulls after spending 150 on ring banner

bronze zephyr
wild mango
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@split beacon do you feel like its worth to run ring outis

atomic steeple
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I have ring outis
Will go well with the robots

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Don't have ring sang yet

split beacon
wild mango
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wdym

signal kindle
uneven canopy
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turn someone into a spray can on the spot

split beacon
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I know there are effects that give the Ring Nursefather and Apprentice combo buffs if you field additional Ring IDs

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What are they though lol

signal kindle
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Or like their soul or smn shit

split beacon
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My only thought regarding Ring Outis is that her numbers are kinda mid and she applies a ludicrous amount of bleed count specifically

atomic steeple
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Hong lu gets to drop his nuke faster and get the ring buff online

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Basically, the new ring units gain higher charge count upon entering the encounter depending on number of ring allies
Hong lu decreases his countdown for his big skill faster due to ring allies doing attacks

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Then he activates his big ring buff, which makes them faster, plus clash power and damage amplification

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His skills have "deal plus 5/10% more damage for every negative effect, max 30%"

stoic fjord
worthy haven
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I think its worth if you dont run the fiend version

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but you can also run a version without her!

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its p flexible i think

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I do think you want ring outis if you run aedd greg for the charge amp and go full into the ring duo

wild mango
worthy haven
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depending on what version you most likely run either don plus rodion in the 2 fiend version when you wanna run ringsang or don rodion mersault if you wanna run 3 fiend, 2kk, 2 ring.

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in my opinion atleast

cosmic gorge
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Can you run albina faust on her own without Callilu

keen palm
worthy haven
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you can I think but calisto really buffs her

keen palm
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Oh wait I misread

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I mean if you are giving up outis and gregor

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You give up mersault?

cosmic gorge
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I got so few tickets and only just leveled a decent bleed tremor team

keen palm
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He kinda sucks at the gameplan of blow everyone up and at least princess rodya has more consistent healing and anti bleed tech and you still want don to have AN empowered skill

worthy haven
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but eh

keen palm
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Well I thought we were cutting another fiend

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And only running 2

worthy haven
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oh ye if you run 2 ye you def do don rodion ya

gentle mulch
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we need a blade lineage upscale

karmic escarp
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'we already had blineage upscale'
'yes but what about second blineage upscale'

split beacon
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The next BL upscale will be LCA Kim

karmic escarp
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naw itll be Punished Aeng-Du

split beacon
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A LCD agent denied her mentor…

cosmic gorge
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Whose getting the aeng du id

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With robot arms

split beacon
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Ishmael

stoic fjord
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i genuinely fully believe in the LCE E.G.O :: Dimension Shredder Kim

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it feels like it fits too well

split beacon
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I mean yeah

cosmic gorge
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Shes already a kurocaptain

Her swordswoman greed

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It sickens me

split beacon
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Bamboo Hatted Kim is basically Samurai Jack

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Gotta get back

bronze zephyr
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One day we’ll get drenched Gossypium ego and I’ll be happy

split beacon
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Back to the past our home

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Samurai Jack.

stoic fjord
split beacon
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Watch out.

main scaffoldBOT
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Realizing now that we have very few good bleed IDs

cosmic gorge
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But also lmao if we get aengdumael we now have the irish american in three different asian style ids

split beacon
stoic fjord
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we'll get there eventually. someday soon, my beautiful maestro

cosmic gorge
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Wow he has those

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Doll mouth lines

bronze zephyr
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In terms of exp tickets

We have no exp tickets

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
bronze zephyr
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True……

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Meur’s only gotten Hornet this season

split beacon
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I wonder why the Prescript wanted the Dimension Shredder EGO suit anyways

karmic escarp
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dimshred kimsault, save meursault charge ID society....

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could have some exploit with the Corridor?

bronze zephyr
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I forget which abnos LCE has, lemme see

cosmic gorge
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Dimshred salt for the Ego gear ID team...

stoic fjord
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I promise I'm cooking

karmic escarp
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moth, centipede, fairy of course

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huh. listing them out like that theyre very. bug-ey

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oh and big bird

stoic fjord
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wayward passenger, ebony queen's apple

stoic fjord
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they have the gear

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nothing on having the abno

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very unlikely that they do, seeing as the big guy is in the library

karmic escarp
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ah i thought we were talking gear

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though, isnt it implied that the LC has all the abnos weve fought so far, more or less?

stoic fjord
cosmic gorge
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Creatures of the woods lile

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Lile

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Like

gentle mulch
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Question

split beacon
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there's a lot of woods critters in LCE stock

gentle mulch
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Is adding more statuses to a team worth it beyond 2?

split beacon
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also Hurting Teddy Bear

cosmic gorge
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Fairy tale creechurs

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Only wayward is weird

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In this attempt at theming

split beacon
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generally, dual-status teams work because they have a status synergy

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trem+x usually boosts X when you tremor burst

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poise+x usually gives you something good when you crit that plays into x status

bronze zephyr
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Ebony Apple, Shock Centipede, Ardor Moth, Gossypium, Faelantern, Passenger, are LCE’s confirmed Abnos?

gentle mulch
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I guess it's just poise rupture being nuts

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but idk. triple status so far has just been a failing race to get the appropriate status EGO gifts on top of the EGO gifts that are good overall

cosmic gorge
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Depends

gentle mulch
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Like I cannot buy enough gifts to make full usage of my units

cosmic gorge
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I try to put tremor gifts as much as i can

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In md

gentle mulch
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like im running out

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of shop slots

faint pivot
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Triple is more of an MDE thing cause you're running out of slots otherwise, yea

cosmic gorge
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Bc Downpour, the goop jar, the four lightbulbs and the frog eye are nastyy

stoic fjord
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it's an MDE thing, and you need to route well

cosmic gorge
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Also the wristband

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Tremor is a really good third status that doesnt need you to field actual tremor units

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(i can be of more help if i could actually Name the goddamn gifts im talking about)

gentle mulch
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maybe i just need to reach floor 11 and see

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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STOP PRAYING FOR POISE IT'S TOO MUCH

faint pivot
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Just like in Ruina, Power rules

faint pivot
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Maybe...13

gentle mulch
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MAYBE 13

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idunno

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feels Weird

faint pivot
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No wait, 24

worthy haven
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btw i have been thinking about it and uh wtf is mersault getting this season?

gentle mulch
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by floor 11 i usually plan on just nuking everything

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mayyybe 12

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like zero thoughts when i reach MDIE besides nuke

worthy haven
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cause i feel like we have all characters already slotted minus the detectives and I dont think we get a vespa id just yet esp with kjh wanting to make like a DD canto/intervallo essentially

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so wtf is mersault getting

faint pivot
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Watch we get Dimension Shredder Meursault cause of that one guy who died wearing it

dusty sigil
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Chat, is it just me or are rupture and charge kinda, sister statuses?

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It feels like charge rupture is the go to status combination for whenever a new charge ID comes out

stoic fjord
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mhm

main scaffoldBOT
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W Corp basically established it as a thing early on, yeah

tiny cave
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They seem to be pairing one easy to maintain status (tremor/charge/burn/poise) with one hard to maintain one (bleed/rupture/sinking) for newer hybrids

dusty sigil
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Yah that does make sense

tiny cave
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Cos doing hybrids of two hard to maintain statuses just leads to them having no coin power in story content and RR

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Unless one of the statuses is just MD text and they have actual count maintenance on the other

stoic fjord
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Callisto Hong Lu feels

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short

cosmic gorge
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short in what way

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he feels less tall than calli prime?

stoic fjord
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like

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he's meant to be callisto and is then like half the size

cosmic gorge
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true

stoic fjord
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and I know he can't be the same size

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but like

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he's so fucking tall in his art

cosmic gorge
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calli's drip needs him to be a Loomer

stoic fjord
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exactly

keen palm
main scaffoldBOT
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We decided to take a closer look at the tremor IDs and we've realized that most of them don't have anything that grants them +X% damage, except for the more modern ones like the thumb duo and T Outis

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Oufi Heathcliff makes a lot more sense with that in mind, tremor decay boosts everyone's damage by a lot and his passive can give all of his skills +30% damage for a very easy to fulfil condition

keen palm
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I saw the Thumb Duo have a new item

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that seems nutty

faint pivot
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And AoE ofc

cloud wadi
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do you think there's a group of LCA that are actually Dias's favorites and who wouldn't get tossed aside to provide hype moments and aura

faint pivot
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Yes and they're called the LCD /j

gentle mulch
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yeah it's c

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dammit

faint pivot
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The opposite exists in a group that isn't the LCA yet is still thrown away for hype moments: the LCE

keen palm
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They have a hammer that deals like

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30% damage if the enemy has Scorch?

faint pivot
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Oh Dante's Notes now reference the Durante abilities

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The Golden Boughs, record 4

keen palm
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wait huh

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new bloodfiend item?

faint pivot
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That was last update's iirc

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Er, the one before the Ring duo

stoic fjord
gentle mulch
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new duo is so fast on multi enemy encounters

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i just saw maestro get 9 charge potency turn 1 combat start

faint pivot
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Speaking of EGO, I'm guessing the LCR to the LCB represents resonance - Blind Obsession is Waw for Ishmael but Teth for Ryoshu because the latter has a thread stopping her from closing her eyes (heh)

But is it also detached from danger level, like it is for Abnormalities?

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This is also under the assumption that the LCR for both Limbus & Lobotomy represent output for EGOs

neat cedar
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Ye, i think typically whennit comes to Limbus egos

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it's more a matter of how well they sync up

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with maybe, like

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a cap.at the level of the abno,

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i forget what scorched girl is

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Man, I really hope Faust gets a new tremor ID with a haste focus soon

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I really don’t want Mao to continue to be optimal on tremor

fluid whale
dusty sigil
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Give her like a T Corp ID that spends time to get haste or something

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Also paternal Rodigor from @ AgataSain

fluid whale
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I believe the example abnos for the levels are One Sin, Scorched Girl, Happy Teddy Bear, Queen of Hatred, and Nothing There

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In order

stoic fjord
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They’re so wonderful

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Gregor childproofing his arm is very cute

faint pivot
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Then again

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Red Eyes has both a Teth and a He

dusty sigil
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Hmm, have we gotten any nonseasonal T Corp IDs?

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If not, what are some generic factions that are tremor based?

faint pivot
dusty sigil
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Tremor magic bullet sounds very cursed

faint pivot
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Why can't this?

faint pivot
dusty sigil
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They could be whatever they wanted

dusty sigil
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We have precedent for T Corp Faust

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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also, LCA doing tremor.works vecause thry're shock and awe tactics

faint pivot
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Misspoke, I'm thinking of Sinking

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the way i'ce tended to look at trwmor as a status is that it's all about puttingnur foe ofd guard

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thay too

faint pivot
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Cause in Ruina the Udjat do a lot of Stagger damage

stoic fjord
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Tremor and sinking goes well together in general imo

faint pivot
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By proxy of having really good Guards

neat cedar
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Limbus gave them a fear aura

stoic fjord
fickle crown
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Dealing 1000+ damage and healing to full HP lmao

stoic fjord
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Also I'm personally headcanoning the ammo as having sand-like microblades or some shit that contribute to the sinking and tremor

dusty sigil
stoic fjord
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Especially with the sand status

cosmic gorge
neat cedar
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yeeerp

cosmic gorge
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Umazing

neat cedar
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but ye, mechanically showing thr LCA's weird oppressive fear aura

dusty sigil
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Also yah I checked

neat cedar
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with a mix of sinking and tremor

dusty sigil
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T Corp already has a bind gimmick

neat cedar
dusty sigil
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They can have haste

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For fun

neat cedar
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ye

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T corp have tgr ability to.go FAST AS Fuck

stoic fjord
faint pivot
neat cedar
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which makes sense they are the time peeps

faint pivot
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Fire up Borrowed Time and they start zooming

stoic fjord
neat cedar
stoic fjord
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And use the time to rush down people or some shit

dusty sigil
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Oh I didn’t realize Borrowed time grants haste

cosmic gorge
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Rien needed the insider sabotage nerf to keep his ass from getting Dakka'd to death

faint pivot
stoic fjord
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Fair

neat cedar
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like it's a shame that they got worfed like that

keen palm
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I mean keep in mind

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but i do like that it was actual sabotagr

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and notnjust

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"he's just that strong"

stoic fjord
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Please I need to see the LCA operating at full capacity

keen palm
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"The LCA would have won in a fair fight" yeah they are evil criminals who don't ever fight fair

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No duh

cosmic gorge
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Maybe Rien couldve trounced them still

But would have had some grievous wounds

neat cedar
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I mean, ye

cosmic gorge
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Which would be an aura loss once he confronts ryo

neat cedar
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mhmm

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I hope home girl

cosmic gorge
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Fellas have yall heard of my Harvest God Theory for Limbus'plans for the Sinners

neat cedar
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isn't dead-dead

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nay

stoic fjord
# neat cedar "he's just that strong"

I mean he is pretty cracked, I think if he had used ||shin and mang|| like we know he can it might've been fucked for the LCA regardless but still yeah idk where I'm going with this

neat cedar
stoic fjord
neat cedar
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ye

stoic fjord
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She was cool

neat cedar
stoic fjord
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He would've had to lock in and not do slasher villain shit

neat cedar
#

Like, funny to say but

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i genuinely think

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Mattias

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or maybe Valencina

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were the stronger members

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of the group as a whole

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none of them were pushovers

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but Mattias being just

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

How does Callisto's minions factor into this

neat cedar
#

a horrific force of brute strength

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

Valencina also had

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literal hax

stoic fjord
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I think callisto is the one we have the least like. Actual insight on because we genuinely ||summoned his hard counter and removed his gimmick that probably would've fucked us completely||

neat cedar
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ye

neat cedar
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Rien is pretty much the only one who didn't have an OP gimmick

stoic fjord
neat cedar
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henjust was pure fundamentals

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honed to an insane edge

stoic fjord
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100% LARP

keen palm
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Callisto had an instant kill button, Matthias was invulnerable, Valencia was unhittable, and Rien was just an all around monster

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

Furioso is in fact

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pure fundamentals

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the prescript is a debuff

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if anything

stoic fjord
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We don't know enough about ||Shiomi/Araya|| to say but given what we saw, probably also cracked

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

like man was pure skill

faint pivot
#

But if Hermes still liked Rien I feel like we'd have a true SotC fight on our hands

neat cedar
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and pure skill.gets you far

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The Golden Bough is a book written by a guy who wanted to make a grand unifying theory of certain european myth concepts, which were wrong but i digress

The book posits that europe has a persistent myth about a Harvest God who must be sacrificed for the crops to grow

Its established that in the pmoon series people's emotions and experiences are cultivated to be harvested (in lobcorp, in ruina, in canto 4)

So my theory posits two things:

The laws of the City are designed to maximize the amount of suffering as much as possible (melee combat is encouraged/impassive range is discouraged, etc) because suffering creates emotions that the Head wants for whatever reason

Limbus is fattening up the Sinners with emotional energy across their cantos to harvest their potential in some way

neat cedar
#

bht also

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

everyone in the city cheats

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with the exception of Kali, of course

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Kalo.just being

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built different

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only gets funnier

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as we rise in power scale

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

||though also the sword had to be sheathed to prevent it from going overboard so both ig||

faint pivot
keen palm
cosmic gorge
stoic fjord
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That would make sense, yeah

keen palm
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Nothing in the city is gained without suffering

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

Okay either way we don't actually know much about the Pinky Nursefather's strength

cosmic gorge
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Now the only hope we can think of is how does Dant wiggle their team out of this

faint pivot
stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

I can't help but think Dihui wouldn't have just one Relic on her

stoic fjord
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I need to start farming Rodion and Heathcliff shards

neat cedar
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I mean

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just one relic

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is plenty

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they're not exactly common

faint pivot
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Yes, but this is the City

neat cedar
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indeed

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but relics all come

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from The Ruins

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which is extremely bad vibed and dangerous even by Citu vibes

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and if mattias is any indication

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they can be extremely finnicky

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so finding one that you vibe with is already something that's a bit rare

stoic fjord
fickle crown
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And y'know...

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Also Valencina

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Who will just start burning her eye socket if she decides to use her eye as a crutch

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

i hope

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zhe gets a buff

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

if her apprentice gets to half health

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or dies

stoic fjord
#

LCCB Ryoshu

cosmic gorge
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That makes me think

faint pivot
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Mb I sent that ID out of my brain awhile ago

cosmic gorge
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How does rien and riensangs kits differ

neat cedar
#

not mich

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Mainly that

cosmic gorge
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How about callisto and callilu

neat cedar
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Riensang doesn't get shin or Mang

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or wait

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

he does get shin i think

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

but not mang

stoic fjord
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No mang

neat cedar
#

ye

cosmic gorge
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Shin is aura, mang is rings right

stoic fjord
#

I wonder when we'll get our first id with mang

neat cedar
#

correct

stoic fjord
faint pivot
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Unless Hermes had the HoS deposit different types of Time Safes, I doubt Ryoshu is getting entangled

neat cedar
#

and given how rien sang talks

cosmic gorge
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Mmhm

neat cedar
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him not having mang

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tracks

stoic fjord
faint pivot
neat cedar
#

nopr

stoic fjord
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Maybe 5 words not directly prompted

stoic fjord
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Only shin

faint pivot
#

Huh damn, misremembered

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

more of a gimmick.fight

stoic fjord
#

Next ID release is either the thumb duo or MatthiOutis

faint pivot
#

Unless they intervene in her stead but that sounds odd given the HoS were gaslit to turn her into a prime killer

neat cedar
#

I think that HoS ryoshu will have entanglement as lije

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a controlled thing

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because the big thing about ryoshunis like Kali

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she is just

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built different

faint pivot
#

Lmfao

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Just realized what you meant by that

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Yeah!

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She is unfortunately built different

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God the HoS sucks

neat cedar
#

yeeeerp

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still love how

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they foreshadowed the ehll

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out of ryoshu's time shenans

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all the way back

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with the W corp IDs

faint pivot
#

2023.08.24

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This is what...a few months after launch, guesstimate?

neat cedar
#

something like that, i think

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w ryoshu being weirdly chill about the Waro train

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everyone was like "Ohbyeah she just loves being a osycho and all.the gore"

faint pivot
#

...oh

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I was about to ask how they pointed it out but

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I guess she was being very literal here!

neat cedar
#

yerp

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but also just the way she talks about the train

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she's the only one who feels comfortable on it

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and while that is partially due to her love of just weird shit

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you can look back on it now and see "oh, i see"

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it's also why she can talk to the old woman and tnak her stories easily with FaS

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anything that has to do with messing with your perception of time just. . . doesn't really affect her

faint pivot
#

I don't recall the Old Woman messing with time stuff

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Only that she does White damage and F.A. resists that

neat cedar
#

not directly, but she tells you stories that go on forever

stoic fjord
#

The lob corp walps put into my head the idea of Ryoshu just staring at Whitenight or Censored entirely unimpressed

neat cedar
#

the white damage is essentially her just telling you endless drek

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but in the uptie story, ryoshu is just kinda unfazed by it

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until she says some story that hits a bit too close to home, never finishing the ending

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

hmmm

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i think she wouldn't heal because it's a bit all over the place

faint pivot
#

I feel like it isn't exactly her style yea

neat cedar
#

but maybe the truth of the "art"would speak to her

#

since MoSB is a very, uh

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

earnest expression of despair

faint pivot
#

SMILE AND JUSTITIA RYOSHU LET'S GOOOOO /j

stoic fjord
faint pivot
neat cedar
#

love that ryoshu is just the dual wielder ID

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for the lob corp stuff

#

her and apparently Gregor

faint pivot
#

I hope she doesn't hoard it since it's awesome

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For the LobCorp stuff I mean

neat cedar
#

i think it will probably

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just be those two

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because dual wielding egos is a heavy mental strain thing

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

like, before her, only Geb ever managed it

faint pivot
stoic fjord
faint pivot
faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

It fits

faint pivot
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I was about to ask if she'd reson with those but thinking now, yeah

stoic fjord
#

Give it to her

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"From break and ruin, the most beautiful performance begins."

faint pivot
#

Da Capo - generational trauma, cycles of violence solved with even more violence
Mimicry - living vicariously through another, yearning for better, wanting what they have but you do not

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Oh and art, ofc

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I need not explain how both have ties to beauty

#

Yeah okay she's getting the Geburah and Kali ID

stoic fjord
faint pivot
stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

ifeel if we ever get PT id

faint pivot
#

Both are pretty badass weapon masters

stoic fjord
#

Like. Thematically

neat cedar
#

it can go to eithe rDon, Ryoshu, or outis

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and no one else really

faint pivot
neat cedar
#

they're the ones with the thematics

stoic fjord
#

Was about to say Outis yeah

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

Don in absolutley fits because, ye that

faint pivot
#

Hm Outis is a pretty good candidate too, actually

neat cedar
#

also Doon does have a theme of motherhood

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if not as strong as Outis and ryoshu

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and much more, uh

faint pivot
#

At the very least family

neat cedar
#

adversarial

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could even shift the goal from a child to trying to find a world

#

where she can get her father back

stoic fjord
#

Hrmmm

So for the color fixers we know, which sinner fits each

Like...

Red Mist
Purple Tear
Indigo Elder
Blue Reverberation
Black Silence
Chartreuse Maiden?
Vermillion Cross
Yellow Harpoon

faint pivot
#

Yellow Harpoon is easily Meursault

neat cedar
#

Yellow Harpoon is just sault

stoic fjord
#

We know next to nothing about vermillion and chartreuse

faint pivot
#

Black Silence fits too many people

neat cedar
#

Black Silence we got Heath as the fan fav contender

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but yeah

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well

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depends

#

do we mean

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BS(forma da poser)

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or Black SIlence true

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

see i don't think you can

faint pivot
#

Blue Reverb sounds like an Outis ID

neat cedar
#

because they're very different peeps

stoic fjord
#

As in

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Let's say we can get both of them as IDs

#

Not we consider both for the singular ID

neat cedar
faint pivot
#

Moves with incredible hubris that ends up with their crews dying

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Well not hubris

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More like

neat cedar
#

denial

faint pivot
#

Have a tendency to take the Devil up on their offers

neat cedar
#

is i think the core bit with Blue Reverb

stoic fjord
#

Maybe... Hong Lu?

faint pivot
#

Indigo...Ishmael?

stoic fjord
neat cedar
faint pivot
neat cedar
#

indigo man strikes as ish or sault

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

To rally the Ensamble

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Vergilius...

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Witness

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A good man forced to stand down

#

Now that's a Hong Lu ID to me

stoic fjord
#

True, though the whole "I will pave this path of blood and build the world in my vision no matter how many lives it costs" is not as Hong Lu

faint pivot
#

Correct, though that's paradoxically why I nominate him

stoic fjord
#

At least not immediately

stoic fjord
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So

faint pivot
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If he'd have Verg's EGO he'd have to at least have that part of his mindset too

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As seen with Spicebush

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And Philipclair actually

neat cedar
#

god

#

i still love

faint pivot
#

Not saying Soradon because that one's an exception (you can't tell which bit's from the EGO and the Index)

neat cedar
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the Uptie for philipclair

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essentially being sinclair looking carmen in the face and going

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"yeah sorry about that other guy, but i'm better"

#

Phil;ip gets no respect and ya know what

#

deserved

#

fuck that guy

stoic fjord
# stoic fjord Hong Lord *does* exist

"Fuck everyone who's ever been born, fuck everyone who's ever died, I'M the only one good enough for this, fuck everyone else, I'm doing this and no one is going to stop me."

neat cedar
#

ye Hong Lu when he starts to actually care

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is uh

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scary

#

see also

#

Callisto hong lu

stoic fjord
#

Callisto Hong Lu

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Bro genuinely loves his art i think and it is

#

Terrifying!!

neat cedar
#

he genuinely loved his art

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

We need to get more IDs where Hong Lu has strong opinions and feelings on things

faint pivot
#

Makes me imagine a Red Gaze Hong Lu where instead of the grandstanding Hong Lord does he just goes begone

f

            o



                                                                  e
stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Am also reminded of the Spring Cultivation moment where Hong Lu just glares at Jia Yuanchun

neat cedar
#

ya know who would make a very funny verg ID

#

rodya

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

Remember Rodya's sin

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she is laugh and smiles but that hides a deeply

stoic fjord
faint pivot
neat cedar
#

deeplydespondant woman

#

with a Lot of anger

stoic fjord
#

I need a genuine rodion crashout

#

Like

neat cedar
#

not to mention the theme of losing people close to you

#

despite your best efforts

stoic fjord
#

After fucking everything we have still not seen this woman be genuine in her emotions I think

faint pivot
#

That's really good, actually

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Ties in with her Pride despite Verg showing none of that when he fights

neat cedar
#

an extremely vergilus move

#

man loves us and will never show it

faint pivot
#

TRUKE

#

BROTHER TRIES TO LIE THAT HE ISN'T WATCHING US LIVE IN HIS ANNOUNCER

#

I wanna treat this man somehow

neat cedar
#

also can i say

#

everytime

#

i see vergdante fanart

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it amuses me

#

to no end

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

exactly

stoic fjord
neat cedar
#

i get the vibes

#

there is a very definite closeness that dante and verg have

#

but it's also funny as hell from a meta perspective

stoic fjord
#

It's given me the vague idea of an AU where things didn't go to shit with the orphanage and then I just drop Dante in there as well for fun i guess

neat cedar
#

because the divine comedy was "Dante algheri writing himself into a world where hegets to chill with his fav person in history and dunk on everyone he hates"

stoic fjord
#

Mhm

neat cedar
#

it is, of course, a lot more complex than that

#

but still

#

very funny to see

stoic fjord
#

The sinnerlings are everything to me

As a side note. I just needed to say it again

cosmic gorge
#

This is the funny background context why Dant feels iffy with Outis and why Verg is harsh on her (because aligheri hated Odysseus for silly nationalism reasons)

neat cedar
#

god, such a good april fools bit

stoic fjord
#

Yi Sang and Sinclair sinnerling friendship was everything to me

#

I've been thinking about Dante and Yuri running the sinnerling kindergarten together for days now

neat cedar
#

them ripping open the yuri wound

#

out of nowhere

#

is really the peak of the april fools joke

stoic fjord
#

Like

gentle mulch
#

i really really really really really hate how in human encounters you have no idea which skill is going to go first

neat cedar
#

that is cope, juniper

gentle mulch
#

like thanks sharp needle for proccing on nothing

stoic fjord
#

Life insurance. You only need the head. You only need the head

#

Gregor hasn't suffered enough

#

The apple.

neat cedar
#

the head and someone to pay for it

stoic fjord
#

The apple.

The apple.

The apple.

neat cedar
#

and the head still needs to be preserved

stoic fjord
#

I KNOW

#

LET ME BELIEVE

stoic fjord
#

||Lei Heng's|| body is unaccounted for... lacking a head... N Corp was there... it'll happen... canto 10....... trust me.... you have to trust me

faint pivot
#

We have:

  1. An unaccounted head
  2. An unaccounted chassis (that's also terrifyingly good)
  3. Ways to get people to fight when they don't want to
#
  1. Ways to quickly insert knowledge people didn't start with
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I'm wholeheartedly expecting Yuriheng to pull a ten coiner on us or something

stoic fjord
#

YOU UNDERSTAND!! YOU GET IT

faint pivot
#

An even worse possibility would be her using T-S.P.F.B. twice in the same turn

#

Yeah that's still 10 coins total but having to win two high-end clashes is rather hard! See: Rien

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I can definitely see him saying this exact thing

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stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Considering the sinner's combined forces took down an ex-SotC I think she'd have to be

stoic fjord
#

My thought is that it'd moreso be her own style, as amateur as it might be, but perhaps with training and also the insane amount of power behind it or something

#

...

I kinda wonder... maybe an E.G.O gear?

faint pivot
#

Same thoughts here

stoic fjord
#

Since.. ex-lob corp

faint pivot
#

We meet Yuriheng and she's dripped out in Justitia

stoic fjord
#

I meant an N Corp ego or something

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Whatever fits thematically

faint pivot
#

N Corp. E.G.O.: Justitia

stoic fjord
faint pivot
#

Hey look

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I genuinely feel like Yuri would go well with Justitia

stoic fjord
#

Actually this is already exceedingly self-indulgent we can do whatever

stoic fjord
faint pivot
# stoic fjord Elaborate?

Crushed under the weight of a system flawed, forced to choose the worst option possible in a gambit of self-preservation

stoic fjord
#

Fuck, Justitia Yuri would actually go so hard

faint pivot
#

(That 2nd bit is me interpreting Yuri throwing herself to the Apple as an effort to look appealing to Limbus Company)

stoic fjord
#

Also the whole idea of retribution for sins and like.

Ohhhh gregorrrrrrrr

#

Time for EVEN MORE SUFFERING

faint pivot
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What kind of candy store sells plain raisins?

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faint pivot
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I'm guessing that like

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Some sell cookies with raisins, therefore you could potentially buy just the raisins

stoic fjord
#

Alongside all the nuts and chocolates and such

faint pivot
stoic fjord
#

I go to the big ones with the giant skittles and m&ms tubes

#

I remember going to this huge one in like. Chicago. Or something. I got so much fucking candy it was insane

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
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I’m kind of surprised how much of an impact Yuri had on the community given she only shows up in one canto that’s a third of the length of modern cantos
I guess it was the first canto though

stoic fjord
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I feel like the literacy that exists in this chat makes us go more insane in the interim than the broader community

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Wait, we’re supposed to have literacy?

stoic fjord
stoic fjord
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Justitia is moreso the system itself

neat cedar
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is crazy to me, but goes to show that you don't need much to have a character leave an impact

lean fjord
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Kromer also just has a very strong character design

ebon forge
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callu is fucking hilarious

bronze zephyr
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Oh my god

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They should disable it for certain stages 😭

ebon forge
bronze zephyr
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Holy

ebon forge
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not even enough shards 😭

bronze zephyr
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How.

ebon forge
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uhm cuz im trying to shard every id ever

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and ego

bronze zephyr
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Mmm that’d do it

faint pivot
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Neither could Geburah

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Who despite being the sole exception to the various norms of the system

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Is still ultimately part of it rather than in control of it or, say a whole other system

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...If you saw what I deleted I misremembered who got Philosophy Realized

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Now

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I'll admit I'm dubious on Yuri as she is (was?) meeting the conditions to wear Justitia

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But this is pure conjecture, anything goes
We say her Justice and other stats let her in the cool kids club as part of her reeducation

faint pivot
faint pivot
faint pivot
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(It's Callislu's s3-2)

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Everyone just goes ham in this one

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Meanwhile Hong Lord is just: ||hold on I need to think...think about how STUPID y'all look||

neat cedar
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GUYS

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coupon code

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FOR LIMBUS

faint pivot
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What

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Fr??

neat cedar
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IH777

faint pivot
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It's 2 days from April Fools but WOAH

neat cedar
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might be a fake out tho

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i dunno

ebon forge
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lemme test rq

neat cedar
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damn

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a fake out