Uh
#Project Moon Games: Lobcorp, Ruina, Etc.
cloud wadi
dusty sigil
Kill the previous one
cloud wadi
Probably
cloud wadi
Mmm
Actually
I think they know too well that’s pointless
Not to mention Nikolai doesn’t get any younger from being cloned
dusty sigil
Oh yah, Nikolai is visibly pretty old
cloud wadi
R corp replication tech seems uh limited in that way
dusty sigil
Seems like they can’t reverse aging yet
cloud wadi
Yeah
Perfect copy
Emphasis on perfect
Age included
I’m sure they could make a younger clone
But I think they know it would be pointless
Because divergence means the outcome would be even more substantially different than usual
Easier to just uh
Pick someone else younger to promote
cloud wadi
Other two aren’t too far off though
dusty sigil
Individuals or specific units will also be culled if they are individually bad earners
cloud wadi
Since without reindeers to absorb casualties now they have to absorb casualties
dusty sigil
Other two aren’t too far off though
Probably but they’re safe for now
Also I wonder if it’s soft confirmation we aren’t getting any more reindeer IDs…
We do have a story of all 3 of them being murdered and their unit disbanded
cloud wadi
Well probably get Rudolph in walpurgisnacht
dusty sigil
Oh yah probably
cloud wadi
Bring the number up to 4
dusty sigil
Also I think importantly
The uptie does not bar new rabbits and rhinos
So Rhino Gregor and Rabbit Ryoshu are on the table still
cloud wadi
I do wonder if we’ll get ravens around purgatorio
Hunting escaped fourth pack members in like the outskirts or smth
dusty sigil
I feel like we’ll see them in game before we get an ID of them
They’re very built up to just be revealed in an ID
cloud wadi
Yeah
Wonder what kind of stories they’ll appear in though
Will we make an alliance of convenience with Myo
And have to deal with Raven pursuers
dusty sigil
They are almost certainly STOC level
With how they need to kill r Corp pack commanders
So like, if we do fight them it’ll be a while still
I wonder if they have a purpose besides culling packs too
Like, elite assassins skilled enough to kill the best of R Corp is useful for a lot more then killing employees who are no longer profitable
atomic steeple
Honestly, she should
She is an insane Christmas lady
main scaffoldBOT
She's honestly more sane than you'd think, judging by her uptie story
tiny cave
Well, as expected she isn’t outdoing KoDion any time soon
Does look like a reasonable charge unit though
Conditionals on S1 aren’t too bad (5+ count and 2+ potency is much less than other charge units) and she has damage on it as well
atomic steeple
https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1ppimv8/rodions_va_is_killer_as_...
I hear nothing?
atomic steeple
https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1ppimv8/rodions_va_is_killer_as_...
"We figured out your soldier type: sorry soldier"
"Wait, wasn't my type Jolly soldier?"
"You can have multiple"
Thought gained: Rigorous Self-Critique
worthy haven
Looking at the new id
She feels like shi Faust(fixed) In that there is like nothing wrong with her at all but like she feels so middle of the pact and with high opportunity cost she just seems way worse
atomic steeple
Gotta say, her animations are cool
You know waht could be fun? A charge unit whose guard generated extra shield scaling with charge potency
So late into the fight, they generate thick shields
lean fjord
Kinda REAPShu I guess
atomic steeple
Do you think if the Ring ran into angela, they'd do tests to be sure she's sapient instead of gen ai
atomic steeple
Angela: The head doesn't act as long as I stay inside.
Ring: okay, next test it is.
hybrid lynx
The humble “select all images with [blank]”
atomic steeple
"Try drawing a hand"
"Good, you failed like a person instead of an llm. Don't be sad, we all struggle with drawing hands"
hybrid lynx
Either that or she does it perfectly
atomic steeple
"I practiced for eras, thinking of what it'd feel to hold my creator's hand, or be patted in the head. To play ball games with him"
fickle crown
Like, elite assassins skilled enough to kill the best of R Corp is useful for a ...
Late but I think they're also there to deal with internal problems with other employees
If there's a betrayer somewhere you send the ravens to pick them clean
faint pivot
The uptie does not bar new rabbits and rhinos
It bars nothing even, considering that when we pluck IDs from the Mirror is arbitrary
atomic steeple
If there's a betrayer somewhere you send the ravens to pick them clean
They probably suppress remnants of old r corp
faint pivot
We could be getting Reindeer before the purge, right in the middle, or long after
gleaming frost
Are we getting a Raven
dusty sigil
From @ c_kingdodo
cloud wadi
We could be getting Reindeer before the purge, right in the middle, or long afte...
By the time reindeers get purged there are two survivors to the whole unit
And we know both of them haha
Ishmael and rodion
cloud wadi
Like, elite assassins skilled enough to kill the best of R Corp is useful for a ...
They could be the supreme commander’s personal death squad?
Handpicked unit given all the best equipment and toys
stoic fjord
From @ c_kingdodo
Yi Sang will lock in and become strongest one day, trust
I believe in our micro-plastic consuming mirror-making Austrailian Korean crow boy
cloud wadi
He’ll be the Raven slaughtering Ishmael and rodion
Do you think the Supreme commander is more or less Big Boss
The strongest and most prestigious soldier in the city
cosmic gorge
I believe in our ~~micro-plastic consuming~~ mirror-making ~~Austrailian~~ Korea...
the meme has gotten to you now
dusty sigil
The strongest and most prestigious soldier in the city
Yah probably
cloud wadi
I want him to appear wearing an eye patch and a beret
Gregor Big Boss ID
Do you think Binah kills people who asks her to serve iced tea
cosmic gorge
does she serve tea when asked?
cloud wadi
Yes
Chesed I think briefly mentions that his own librarians sometimes heads up to the floor of philosophy to drink Binah’s tea when they get tired of coffee
Geburah also sometimes drops by for tea
hybrid lynx
From @ c_kingdodo
He got so close
stoic fjord
He’ll be the Raven slaughtering Ishmael and rodion
Trueeeee
Full R Corp team comp... surely... we need more organization team comps... give me Lob Corp team leader ID...
cloud wadi
Isn’t Outis a team captain
And ryoshu
And Faust now that I think about it
Oh yeah
Dias is preparing for another wing war
So that might offer the fourth pack some breathing room in our world
keen palm
cloud wadi
R corp might be hesitant to cull its military assets if they have reason to believe a major war may break out soon
keen palm
Which pack got sent to Hongyuan?
cloud wadi
Reindeer ram and rat. Might be vanguard forces from multiple packs
stoic fjord
Isn’t Outis a team captain
I mean in terms of an ID that actually adds synergy between the Lob Corp employee IDs
And/or E.G.O gear users
cloud wadi
I don’t think that really fits with lobcorp vibe
If Ayin ever actually cared about camaraderie with his friends the plot of lobcorp wouldn’t have happened
stoic fjord
Okay yeah true
cloud wadi
It’s not until like Ruina when sefiras start forming true friendships and cooperating with each other
Well technically until white night dark days
stoic fjord
So you're saying it's possible for the LoR Walpurgisnachts /hj
stoic fjord
Patron Librarian IDs would be cool
cloud wadi
Not even patron librarian ids uhh
Like librarians wearing books ids
For each department
Utilizing various skills from random sources but all tailored perfectly for the departments focus
Malkuth librarians focusing on burn for instance
stoic fjord
That would be cool actually, yeah
cloud wadi
Using techniques from Liu, Dawn Office, etc
atomic steeple
https://old.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1ppimv8/rodions_va_is_killer_as_always/nupdz8u/
"Say one of these facist or communist things or fuck off." - Carmen
atomic steeple
Ishmael and rodion
Angsty yuri
ebon forge
atomic steeple
https://old.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1ppimv8/rodions_va_is_killer_as_...
And above all, you let life defeat you. All the gifts your parents gave you, all the love and patience of your friends, you drowned in a neurotoxin. You let misery win. And it will keep on winning till you die -- or overcome it.
atomic steeple
dusty sigil
Chat, besides expensive EGO usage, what’s the best way to keep N Clair in negative sanity?
Just unopposed attacks?
glad fable
Pretty much
dusty sigil
Ah
Also, I’m realizing a common thread in Rodion IDs
She’s happy and cheerful whenever she’s working as a fixer
But she’s miserable whenever she’s working as a Corp agent
Devyat, Zwei, Dieci, Liu, she’s still upbeat and even happy for the latter three
T Corp, L Corp, R Corp, Heishou?
Hell
main scaffoldBOT
That tracks yeah
split beacon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=occrWIX4ig0
at last, a fandom is created
split beacon
I should probably read it
karmic escarp
there probably is but that'd require combing through every ID (and i guess EGO too) and tallying them
my gut says it's probably sloth but thats just a guess
stoic fjord
"my child will save their resources and make sure to use them wisely"
"Lvl 55 UT4 NRyo don't worry about having the team for it"
keen palm
Gloom is usually the rarest, iirc?
lean fjord
Also chat, is there a least common sin affinity?
varies by team a lot
if you mean across all IDs, I'm not sure
atomic steeple
Gloom is usually the rarest, iirc?
With the two base egos that inflict bind needing it. Plus fluidsac
dusty sigil
if you mean across all IDs, I'm not sure
Yah I meant between everything
ebon forge
It would be fucking hilarious to make my middle name or family name Jia
But I’m not doing that
atomic steeple
Actually, my hair might be ryoshu length
Well close to it
The ryoshu cosplay is real
ebon forge
I’m not sure if I can grow my hair to Hong’s canonical length
Bruh someone calculated this season’s average DPR and it’s 450
Which is apparently like, the average DPR of FS Hong only with FS Heath on support
atomic steeple
Gotta straighten my hair for ryoshu
Oh, reading hell screen
The scene where the daughter burns
And yoshihide can't rescue her
atomic steeple
There's a samurai to stop him
Yoshihide could have tried
But he must have felt powerless
ebon forge
Unless estrogen turns me into Sinclair
atomic steeple
The irony
That someone who lived mocking society
Was ultimately chained by its rules
Made to submit
To the point he could only watch in horror
The samurai, a man who once consumed human flesh in desperation and gained great strength
Was himself horrified by the scene
Yet he still obeyed
It's society
stoic fjord
do you need lust res to activate the cool trick
like
with getting the gaze or contempt
or do you just want pride res
atomic steeple
Aweshu uses lust resonance to inflict Gaze
atomic steeple
You need at least two lust skills per turn
atomic steeple
Also, aweshu can be slow to build up gaze and loses it between waves since the enemies can't transfer the gaze stacks
Maybe the ego helps?
I ut4 her to speed up gaze build up
stoic fjord
I'm currently working towards UT4
so that doesn't concern me too much
the E.G.O I can get after Ram Don
stoic fjord
I am currently trying to figure out what passives for a NSang NShu duo MDE
since NSang is not ammo
things are quite hard
this feels... like not enough
atomic steeple
If I was a sinner: two sheep ids, entire lineup sheep egos
dusty sigil
since NSang is not ammo
EGO guns are very useful
stoic fjord
EGO guns are very useful
not right now they're not
atomic steeple
Too bad he doesn't count as ammo like magibullet
stoic fjord
genuinely baffled that he doesn't
atomic steeple
Mb outis is fun
cosmic gorge
@dusty sigil fellow FabUlt GM
I used Mayors as the FC of the questgiver NPC in a FabUlt oneshot i ran three days ago
I named her Alcaldea as a pun
dusty sigil
<@308743550785290260> fellow FabUlt GM
I used Mayors as the FC of the questgive...
That’s awesome
atomic steeple
It's peak/bleak
The rodya on the verge of opening up, filled with love slowly revealing itself
Who barely cared about being special and jsut wanted Christmas with her loved ones
Who in her final moments, what she wanted to say the most was a phrase of love and comfort she wanted to give her comrades, ratehr than curses, rage or lamentations
stoic fjord
Her uptie story is just. Depressing.
I wish she and her comrades could've had a nice Christmas
ebon forge
Same
stoic fjord
I wish she and her comrades could've had a nice Christmas
They had a turkey roasting in the oven and everything...
She just wanted to share a happy christmas with her fellow Reindeers...
I wish they could've had their Christmas just that once
ebon forge
Idea
Hong Lu vtuber with rigs for a bunch of other pmoon characters
And then we just switch between them for gags
Imagine like, im cracked asf in FPS games so I switch to the Gebura model while I’m playing melee and deleting the whole lobby
stoic fjord
Imagine like, im cracked asf in FPS games so I switch to the Gebura model while ...
ID system on god
fantasy RPGs is immediately Don Quixote
bronze zephyr
canto 9 only two weeks awayyy
gentle mulch
canto 9 only two weeks awayyy
limbus company! just two weeks away!
can you believe it?
limbus!
just two weeks!
wow
i am so happy about this information
atomic steeple
I am fascinated by how finishing the hell screen gave yoshihide a holy aspect
uneven canopy
2 weeks...
atomic steeple
The moment he was ready to finish, he was akin to a glowing Buddha
gentle mulch
a divinity through violence perhaps
stoic fjord
it's like she's in some king of... heaven through vioelnce...
ebon forge
she reached heaven... through violence...
faint pivot
And we know both of them haha
I know but I'm talking about how the Mirror chooses whenever to pluck out IDs for us on an arbitrary basis
We got XIshmael even though she's already dead in that mirror world
Wu Sang interacts with her even though he got confirmation of her death
cloud wadi
btw does rodion have a new mechanic they are hinting for the next canto
cosmic gorge
Only notable thing i can imagine is self sinking
Whats up with that
Thematic sure but
Why
gentle mulch
canto 8-30
oh my god
this team is working
like
REALLY WELL
LCE Yi sang is level 20
oh my god
crimson spindle
Ok I extracted raindeerion
And I have to say
<KJH> the players have had it too good in recent cantos. Too nice. Load the uptie story cannon.
tired canyon
i still think its WILD
that the only time don ever reference the red mist
is on a event that is permanently unavailable now
cloud wadi
Hmm?
No she references red mist multiple times
She brings up the red mist during the First Walpurgisnacht
stoic fjord
genuinely going to start tweaking
ebon forge
keen palm
I thought that was Ishmael pregnant for a second
ebon forge
I thought that was Ishmael pregnant for a second
@dusty sigil
ebon forge
:)
cosmic gorge
I feel the shadow of an contextualess injoke
keen palm
I'm the only one getting Ishmael pregnant around here
split beacon
is odysseychat real, if so where's my invite
ebon forge
Gimme gimme
Accept friend request
ebon forge
Accept friend requests
cloud wadi
There’s odyssey chat?
cosmic gorge
Ive had a long few days and my curiosity needed satiating
Anyhow
RRodya self sinking
split beacon
sorry carmen
cosmic gorge
How much does it
split beacon
it's pretty gnarly
cosmic gorge
Mess with her stuff
split beacon
won't lie
I mean, don't get hit basically
in practical terms all it does is rule her out from red coin interception duty
because she clashes like an absolute monstrosity
cosmic gorge
Wonder if this is foreshadowing of self application for Reasons of just the janky narrative integration into mechanics
split beacon
not only is she a Charge Potency unit
you can just accept the self-Sinking repeatedly for untold rewards and short-circuit her charging cycle
so it's pretty practical for her to hit max conditionals on her skills and fuck shit up in clashes
cosmic gorge
Mmmhmm
split beacon
I kinda wonder if this + the rooster heishou is a presaging of self-status units who are allowed to have unusually strong clashing or damage or status application in return for whooping their own asses a little
She also doesn’t have any way to give herself count so in practical terms it doesn’t matter anyways
You just cave their skulls in and then the Sinking falls off
tiny cave
self sinking negative coin unit that isn't potential man inc
self rupture would be strange, self bleed is already done by bloodfiends
and self tremor is already used as charge 2.0
split beacon
I'm glad self-tremor was banished to the negative zone tbh
tiny cave
wdym banished?
t corp outis uses it
that's an id released this season
only the hybrid tremor units don't use it
split beacon
she does?
tiny cave
yes
lean fjord
Self Tremor does have some funny potential with conversion into positive flavors like that Heath EGO
tiny cave
they'd have to be count based flavours as all the self trem units only inflict count to themselves, not potency
lean fjord
I think there's also a gift in the TKT bokgak that gives a positive Self Tremor?
ebon forge
There’s odyssey chat?
kinda yeah
ebon forge
sorry carmen
lmao i told youuuuuuuuuuuu
tiny cave
it could work as a weird unbreakable/unopposed id
like all your skills give you rupture and rupture count
so you actively want to get hit to make it so your 3/3 rupture stack doesn't become a 6/6 rupture stack and start doing significantly more damage to you
cosmic gorge
Mmhmm
Wait is this just talisman
tiny cave
the intended version of talisman maybe
ebon forge
Mmhmm
Wait is this just talisman
no its just sunshower heathcliff
uneven canopy
fuuuuuuuuck
uneven canopy
but what if... ||she was baby...||
split beacon
holy shit
worthy haven
||also mega suspicious we only saw 3 of the fingers. Also wdym she was fucking raised by like 3 bosses?????||
split beacon
so by implication the Index is by far the most important Finger to Ryoshu's origin huh
specfically because we were shown her "parents" in the Thumb, Middle, and Ring
hybrid lynx
hey what the fuck
ebon forge
||AM I INSANE OR DOES FEEL LIKE LOLANG||
split beacon
you are insane
hybrid lynx
||NO NOT JUST YOU||
split beacon
he repeatedly gestures with an index finger outlined in red thread btw.
ebon forge
ikr
uneven canopy
you can imagine the fanart
hybrid lynx
but if it is truly Ryoshu's father, and he's one of the main leaders of the index, does that by proxy make ryoshu a ||child of the will of the city or do you think he did that by himself||
ebon forge
k just confirmed
worthy haven
||Index was also the finger the thread was wrapped around right||
ebon forge
its not ||roland||
tiny cave
yan is ryo's father and moirai is ryo's mom
ebon forge
pmoon was trolling with it for sure
split beacon
okay I took some screenshots just to highlight the finger motif
we can see for sure that ||Ryoshu's father|| is the Index's representative
worthy haven
||Could we the "father" maybe also be the man ryo had a child with?||
split beacon
doubt it
worthy haven
interestingly ||no thread around the pinky||
split beacon
||we see the three other fingers over a baby Ryoshu in a crib, and later we see a mother NOT* tied by red string to the baby's pinky who looks nothing like Ryoshu||
true bluff
all this hand stuff, wheres the feet rep huh. where are the toes as an organisation?
no I am not a foot person, I'm just laughing at this realisation.
worthy haven
||we see the three other fingers over a baby Ryoshu in a crib, and later we see ...
do you mean this shot? ||cause the baby i think does look like ryo||
tiny cave
We have the head and the fingers
No palm or feet
Presumably the torso is the city itself
split beacon
do you mean this shot? ||cause the baby i think does look like ryo||
||the baby looks like Ryoshu, I meant the mom looks dissimilar||
true bluff
where are my arms, legs, the buttocks huh
true bluff
wait what
tiny cave
Have you seen the L Corp sprites for Gebura and Binah
true bluff
oh thats what you mean
ebon forge
interestingly ||no thread around the pinky||
||a "broken promise"||
true bluff
genuinely was about to say "wait a second they actually have a thighs organisation???"
ebon forge
||they made a promise to ryoshu, and broke it, hence no thread around the pinky? or maybe ryoshu broke it...||
||either way i think its representing a broken promise of some sort||
||maybe to her daughter?||
atomic steeple
I kinda wonder if this + the rooster heishou is a presaging of self-status units...
Hm, some old egos did hit you with self rupture
true bluff
anyway thats my recent fever dream deployed, gonna go back to sleep.
ebon forge
Have you seen the L Corp sprites for Gebura and Binah
Yarhiym Avot Assoc.
atomic steeple
and self tremor is already used as charge 2.0
Kinda silly
worthy haven
||Ring person just being a skeleton is def spooky||
split beacon
||I'm just so confused by how "the child" is never specifically called out as Ryoshu's child, even by people who personally know Ryoshu, and now Ryoshu herself is depicted as a child in the trailer.||
ebon forge
also i love my dancing hong lu watch
split beacon
||With a "mother" and a "father" set aside from the rest of the Fingers' representative paraded in front of us in the trailer||
ebon forge
i gotta wonder
worthy haven
||Thumb women looks awesome, middle dude is fun, ring person horrifying||
ebon forge
||did they make her her own daughter or some shit?||
split beacon
I think it may not be that important
ebon forge
also, ||ricardo is only a big brother???||
split beacon
yeah
worthy haven
I think it may not be that important
||It def fun that we are given no info in the trailer how and why all these I presume heads (Sottocapo etc) of their territory are all together for the occasion||
tiny cave
how fucking strong is the ||father of the middle???||
What peak EDM does he play
tiny cave
||It def fun that we are given no info in the trailer how and why all these I pr...
Isn’t this established in LoR
That they have a moot every so often
worthy haven
ye but we only know the finger bow bell like exist and we dont really know in what form if that makes sense. And this seemed like alsost less official but i could def be wrong here
cosmic gorge
Hmm
worthy haven
we know that meeting is done for like practical reason wheras this looked like more social?
cosmic gorge
Ok i got worried that ||the trailer revealed her not to be a mom||
atomic steeple
My guess here is that it's about the cycle of family
tiny cave
we know that meeting is done for like practical reason wheras this looked like m...
The practical reasons: it would be really funny
atomic steeple
||ryoshu's parents, ryoshu's daughter||
||Ryoshu herself shows cynicism and hang ups about family||
worthy haven
I am also super curious why ||the "white"|| here is the only bold word in the trailer
cosmic gorge
Then i remembered ||lei heng mentions a daughter in canto 8||
tiny cave
White is the index colour
atomic steeple
Also ||Seems they are having the daughter be under threat of being molded by the fingers
I knew they would change the threat, since in the book it was that the lord was atteacted to yuzuki, angry she rejected him and implied to attempt sa before he burned her||
tiny cave
I’m gonna guess index guy is doing some screwery there
atomic steeple
Also ||Seems they are having the daughter be under threat of being molded by the...
That's a cool direction
Not what I expected them to change it into
||And fits
Yoshihide was ultimately powerless against the force of society
So here it's society trying to take over her daughter||
Wait I just realized
The hell screen canto
References time
Dante lore!?
worthy haven
||He is straight mogging us while also doing the Index logo pose at the same time smh||
tiny cave
Can’t wait to see what gets cooked up for index IDs
atomic steeple
Dante in a dress dante in a dress dante in a dress
https://www.rxddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1pqdkiy/wanderer_of_the_inferno_dante_alighieri/
mint cliff
cosmic gorge
Danteh...
mystic ermine
Chat
chat did you
chat did
did you
so you
did
mystic ermine
||He is straight mogging us while also doing the Index logo pose at the same tim...
you did
...
good
mystic ermine
Dante in a dress dante in a dress dante in a dress
https://www.rxddit.com/r/limb...
but they're gone
mystic ermine
I am also super curious why ||the "white"|| here is the only bold word in the tr...
Black Silence
Blue Reverberation
Indigo Elder
Red Gaze
...
||White.... something||
atomic steeple
White crayon
random spindle
White Woman
atomic steeple
Compassion is a cruel feeling to impart on machines that never forget.
https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/last-light-of-a-dark-age-warhammer-29k-disco-elysium.138092/page-9#post-33786164
tiny cave
Looks like one of the fathers is a woman
the five fingers put their combined genetic material in the pot to birth ryoshu
for the funny
cloud wadi
I’m just happy it’s probably confirmation we are getting another capo id
In Korean the Middle guy directly address ryoshu as daughter
Though it might be ambiguous in translation
atomic steeple
the five fingers put their combined genetic material in the pot to birth ryoshu
She is harrison 2nd
Her daughter us harrison 3rd
cloud wadi
I do think it s strange
That in actuality the most important father appears to be the Index
stoic fjord
I’m just happy it’s probably confirmation we are getting another capo id
BURNMOR MD READY!!!
atomic steeple
The index cares the most for the will of the collective
And wield restraining chains
Like the tying strings
cloud wadi
I guess althe only thing that that can get five different leaders of diffferent syndicates together (4?) to raid a child together is an index prescript
cloud wadi
Come to think of it
They might also all be pinkies
Since lei Heng mentions that all of her fathers taught her sword skills
And pinkies are most well known for cool swords
I was wondering why a thumb capo had a katana
gentle mulch
im going to fucking explode
atomic steeple
@winged shard bloodfiends and burn
winged shard
Me have, Poise, Tremor, Sinking, Rupture and Bleed
The only thing left is charge
cloud wadi
I guess they thought lei Heng wasn’t jetstream Sam enough
If they gave the new capo of the thumb katanas
tiny cave
> italian mafia
> katanas
gentle mulch
badass
atomic steeple
She would be cute if she didn't slap ryoshu
cloud wadi
She literally slapped a baby for being unable to stand on two feet
Really feeling the legendary thumb disdain for all outsiders
dusty sigil
ROLAND?!
cloud wadi
Nah just an index guy
The suit is identical to what every other index proxy except Gloria wears underneath their white cloak
It even has the index badge
dusty sigil
Oh right
I forgot they also just wear a black suit
Ok but this is really funny
I wonder who the person saying this is btw
They didn’t seem to be one of the four finger representatives
random spindle
I think someone said she seems to have a pinky string, but isnt directly connected to ryoshu by it?
minor gust
RYOSHU Y.D.A.N
quaint cliff
uneven canopy
gentle mulch
this truly is the limbus company anime
fickle crown
Also I think it'd interesting how the camera rests on the Thumb relative's(?) swords
Just for a second
I wonder if it was passed down to Lei Heng or if it's just something of similar make
uneven canopy
https://youtu.be/rknUoCcUY4E?si=7GE3EbiFYMBA0K_g
whats with the ||beeping in the endshot of the trailer||
fickle crown
I think it's supposed to be like the end of a recording
And then her mother(?) figure appears to have been a member of the pinky and the father(?) is an index member
I like where this is going tbh
Given Ryoshu's low opinion of pretty much every finger so far, they all probably damaged her in some way
atomic steeple
Idea I saw for her bad end id
Ryoshu without her fierceness
Someone who submitted completely to her family
And supports finger ids by making them stronger
Instead of being a juggernaut herself
dusty sigil
Also so like
split beacon
Eh, even if Ryoshu submitted fully to the agenda I think it would probably cast her as a murder trance lunatic
dusty sigil
This trailer does make me think that Ryoshu’s kid is still alive
Since there’s someone to follow the thread back to her
And it’s framed like a message to her
split beacon
IS RYOSHU THE KID?! IS RYOSHU PART OF A CYCLICAL THING AND HER KID FACED THE SAME TRIALS AS HER AS A CHILD?! WHY IS SHE THE CHILD IN THE TRAILER BUT ALSO A MOM?!
AAAAAA
dusty sigil
We know she still has a kid
But then yah the question is like
What’s going on with said kid
I’m betting she’s going through the same thing too
Being raised by the four fingers
split beacon
Oh the Pinky is 100% involved
dusty sigil
Probably yah
Also man
Now I’m wondering if Lord Horikawa is that index guy we saw at the end?
I for some reason assumed he wouldn’t be a fingers member but yah he could be
atomic steeple
Eh, even if Ryoshu submitted fully to the agenda I think it would probably cast ...
Violent, but without that bite of being herself unapologetically
atomic steeple
IS RYOSHU THE KID?! IS RYOSHU PART OF A CYCLICAL THING AND HER KID FACED THE SAM...
Cycle
The thread seems symbolic of ties
Threads of time, across generations
split beacon
feels that way yeah
worthy haven
I wonder who the person saying this is btw
I personally think it's lady opposite to ryo with the pipe and might be the lord(?) but Def more hesitant on the latter part
But I def think it's spoken by the pipe person
keen palm
The guy at the end doesnt seem to be index
He cycles through all the different fingers
He just does the index first
worthy haven
He do be wearing the index suit with an index badge
eternal berry
He's Index, he's wearing the suit
It's what all the Index guys are wearing beneath their snazzy white cloaks
split beacon
no it's the index finger every time
he points with the index, then beckons with it, and then holds it up in a "hush" gesture
stoic fjord
KJH inventing new Korean hand sign mania to replace the pinch conspiracy with Fandom rabies
keen palm
Whos the smoking lady then
split beacon
Ryoshu's mom
stoic fjord
I can't wait for our first ID of the canto
fickle crown
Whos the smoking lady then
Ryoshu's mother and possibly a member of the pinky(?)
Since we do see a ring on a pinky before it cuts to the scene of her mother berating her
dusty sigil
Man, assuming the impossible happens and Ryoshu’s daughter survives this canto
What would even happen to her?
I doubt the LCB would be allowed to take her on the bus
Would limbus just take care of her while Ryoshu’s contract is still up?
keen palm
Its a question of how old the child is going to be
dusty sigil
Somehow I doubt Hohenheim is a good babysitter
crimson spindle
fuckin roland from temu up in here
dusty sigil
fuckin roland from temu up in here
tired canyon
Canon wei pack:every waking second of my life,I am freezing to death. The horns break out of my skin like knives tearing from inside my skull. The fight or flight instinct of a prey animal is so deeply ingrained in my psyche,I physically cannot stop myself from trying to kill anyone that slightly startles me,no matter how much i trust or love then.
Fanon wei pack: woagh...am gote....
main scaffoldBOT
lean fjord
Canon wei pack:every waking second of my life,I am freezing to death. The horns ...
funny sheep :)
dusty sigil
Canon wei pack:every waking second of my life,I am freezing to death. The horns ...
Don can be both
fickle crown
Or someone not Limbus takes her in
Ngl part of me thinks they'd be handed to whatever department Ezra and Moses are from
main scaffoldBOT
Ezra and Moses adopting a child together…
cloud wadi
Pinkie symbolism seems to be directly associated with Ryoshu more than any specific person here
atomic steeple
Ezra and Moses adopting a child together…
Moses kinda raised ezra already
Ezra, Yuria and vespa have no experience tho
cloud wadi
Dias raised Moses
main scaffoldBOT
~~Look just let me be a himejoshi and not let reality ruin things 
~~
Pandora(She/her)(aka WaxMask) ↩️
atomic steeple
Yuria x ezra has grounds
cloud wadi
How about yuria x Moses
main scaffoldBOT
They’re so cute together…
Sophia (She/Her) | The Labrynth Princess ↩️
[Reply to:](#1208554035326484531 message) ~~Look just let me be a himejoshi and not let reality ruin things ~~ 📎
Maybe you should read distortion detective
Dungeon
atomic steeple
Yuria is funny
main scaffoldBOT
I mean yes we should grind out mirror dungeons so we can get Xishmael but that’s not relevant-
DUNGEON
atomic steeple
She keeps trying to be smooth and flirty we women
And failling
Then ezra, who has been constantly arguing with her, goes "both of you stand behind me. Worst comes to worst, I'll buy time for you to run"
And yuri is shook
From one line!
Ezra is smooth
stray sleet
I love Erza so much
fluid whale
whats with the ||beeping in the endshot of the trailer||
considering the ||sounds of burning|| immediately before, it sounded to me like a recording ending
cloud wadi
I am curious as to what ids we are gonna get introduced to the season with
neat cedar
so gang
cloud wadi
Syndicate members?
neat cedar
what are our thoughts on the familiarly shaped Index member
cloud wadi
Probably the main villain
Makes sense now why PMoon refrained from introducing the index
If index, not the ring, is actually the main premise of Ryoshu’s story
neat cedar
||i don't think he's roland, but they're making strong allusions to Roland||
neat cedar
does he not? it sounded like the VA to me, with a different cadence
neat cedar
i'm like 90% certain that is the same va
cloud wadi
I dunnow
He sounded nothing like Roland to me
Too soft to be Roland’s voice
Reminded me more of Chesed
lean fjord
everyone reacting this way truly only proves how effective Roland's mask was
and just how generic he looks
fickle crown
I think it's just incidental since Roland is mostly an average looking guy by city standards. Also the guy in the cinematic has white hairs
dusty sigil
Man, learning that Ryoshu was raised by the finger family polycule makes her comments during canto 7 make a lot more sense
Like yah I see why she doesn’t think highly of more self made families now
fickle crown
I actually think it would be closer to a multi-generational household
Not a polycule
dusty sigil
But still, the idea of coworkers or allies being your “family” disgusting her makes a lot of sense of she was raised like that
neat cedar
Ring person seems like a new school
lean fjord
Almost definitely yeah
neat cedar
Middle guy acts exactly like how you'd expect a Dad frim.the middle to act
ebon forge
Oh god ally ricardo for canto 9 would slappppppp
fluid whale
Makes sense now why PMoon refrained from introducing the index
yeah I was gonna say, guess we know now why they haven't shown up yet
lean fjord
Ring person seems like a new school
Does seem to be where Ryoshu seems to get her thing for abbreviation and reduction?
fickle crown
I do think her capstone ID would also be interesting if she was capable of changing sin affinities based on her team
neat cedar
mhmm
fickle crown
Since presumably she'd embody aspects of all fingers
neat cedar
wjat's also interesting is that
the Ring, Middle, and Thumb carerakers
seem.to be the more. . . close ones
dusty sigil
Also I’m really wondering is like, why they’re all unified for this?
The fingers don’t have good relationships with each other
neat cedar
who directly had a hand in her upbringing
dusty sigil
Most of them are constantly killing each other
neat cedar
Index and Pinky meanwhile, are much, much more distant and cold
fluid whale
Ring person seems like a new school
maybe the impressionists, now? the branches we knew of were Fauvists, Cubists, and Pointillists, but that doesn't seem to correspond to any of them
neat cedar
or well
fickle crown
Also I’m really wondering is like, why they’re all unified for this?
I think it's because Ryoshu might be fulfilling some sort of unifying role (or is possibly being groomed into it)
fickle crown
Index isn't cold, seems more detached
neat cedar
ye
dusty sigil
I think it's because Ryoshu might be fulfilling some sort of unifying role (or i...
Maybe yah
lean fjord
Does seem to be where Ryoshu seems to get her thing for abbreviation and reducti...
That Ring member seemed to have no flesh on their hand, or at least the arm
neat cedar
both arms i think
fluid whale
he is a skeleton
fickle crown
They're a prosthetic user
fluid whale
or like
fickle crown
I think
neat cedar
and i mean, after canto 8
fickle crown
I am betting on full body prosthetics
fluid whale
yeah, prosthetically aesthetically a skeleton
fluid whale
probably used their own body for art?
dusty sigil
Also like, I’m still wondering who Ryoshu had a kid with tbh
neat cedar
when we meet that Thumb lady
lean fjord
probably used their own body for art?
Almost definitely
neat cedar
people are gonna go feral
eternal berry
Yeah, the Five Finger baby-raising project does seem to be something that's persistent. Ryoshu's Pinkymom, Ryoshu herself, and her own child are all framed as essentially living through something similar
Ryoshu is at once returning for her child and is the child returning home
So it seems reasonable that somehow the child as a figure is some kind of unifying force for the Five Fingers
fickle crown
I wonder if the hell screen in this scenario requires all fingers to be present
eternal berry
As for why I have no clue, but knowing PMoon the why of it all will probably be incredibly awful
fluid whale
crack theory I'm trying to call right now even if it's deeply low percentage: ||the 'mom' in the trailer is actually Ryoshu talking to her own kid, not another person talking to Ryoshu||
fickle crown
I actually think it's cyclical yeah
like something tells me there have been many like Ryoshu
ebon forge
btw I can confirm that it shouldn’t be Roland
neat cedar
ebon forge
PMoon is trolling
neat cedar
I mean yeah, that's obvious
fickle crown
we also know that this is the last in a series of family trauma related cantos so I wanna see how PM pulls this off
neat cedar
like i think thatnthere are allusions u can draw bith visually and thematic withnwhat he says
but therenis actually no way it's him
ebon forge
Yuh ik they’re teasing it
eternal berry
like something tells me there have been many like Ryoshu
Same
ebon forge
We’ll probably see the library sooner or later
fluid whale
we also know that this is the last in a series of family trauma related cantos s...
do we? there's kind of a big tell in that they changed Meursault's quote to "I killed maman", we may not be off the rollercoaster yet
neat cedar
thematically ||Him talking about how Ryoshu burned his face gives me similar vibes to Roland's anger at angela for what was done to him||
fickle crown
do we? there's kind of a big tell in that they changed Meursault's quote to "I k...
I think the final three cantos will revolve around societal persecution instead
neat cedar
||That kind of simmering resentment for a wrong that you've let fester insidenyou||
cloud wadi
Also I’m really wondering is like, why they’re all unified for this?
My guess is they all received a Prescript
dusty sigil
Yah, that would do it
cloud wadi
Even sottocapo would obey a prescript
fickle crown
also ngl, the Ring member sounds like they're (using they because the Ring likes being confusing about gender and definitely don't give a crap about norms) voiced by Hong Lu
cloud wadi
And would explain why Index is presented as the main enemy
fickle crown
I think it'd be interesting if they were some unknown fourth role
possibly someone that coordinates the other three?
we've never actually seen anything past the three (technically four) roles seen in LoR
and all of the "family members" seem to be high ranking
dusty sigil
Based off his suit I think he’s a proxy
cloud wadi
The prescript is what coordinates the proxies
fickle crown
Based off his suit I think he’s a proxy
nah, messengers wear suits too
neat cedar
the Will of the City guides them
dusty sigil
nah, messengers wear suits too
Ah shit
fickle crown
proxies and messengers have the same drip
neat cedar
they don't need further coordination
neat cedar
it's part of what makes them so hard to deal with
cloud wadi
Everyone directly obeys the prescript
neat cedar
yeah
cloud wadi
Or proxies if you are a proselyte
neat cedar
that's what i'm.thinking
fickle crown
it'd make sense tbh
cloud wadi
Could be a weaver yeah
fickle crown
weavers are also probably the least conventional role in the index iirc
but yeah, something tells me Hong Lu's VA is voicing ring for some reason
I can't put a pin in it
just sounds similar
cloud wadi
Of the fathers middle guy seem pretty doting and overprotective
Which makes sense I mean
He’s a middle member
fickle crown
I think they all represent different parenting tactics
cloud wadi
Wonder if that will finally get Ricardo to back off
Realizing that one of the coupon thieves is a relative of a high ranking middle member
dusty sigil
This is how ally Ricardo can still happen…
eternal berry
At least we know now that if you get high enough in the Middle hierarchy proper suits do start showing up
It's not vacation tees and shirtlessness all the way down
neat cedar
What makes me curious is hiw they'll tie this tonthe like
cloud wadi
Might just be a quirk of eastern middle
neat cedar
vubes of hellscreen
fickle crown
I think that just has to do with Ricardo's branch of the middle
neat cedar
specifically the theme of like
fickle crown
also I thought they were southern?
neat cedar
perspectives and unreliable narration
keen palm
Ricardo is from U Corp which is Southern Middle yeah
fickle crown
imagine the Middle member seen is just
john yakuza lmao
I think this is also the canto that'll probably get us a Middle Heathcliff and maybe Thumb Ishmael?
Ishmael interestingly has a Thumb affiliate ID too
cloud wadi
I’m hoping for thumb Gregor
fickle crown
part of me thinks Gregor is going to get a Ring ID
cloud wadi
Because of the fucked up arms?
fickle crown
plus weirdly the Ring does actually fit his base EGO
cloud wadi
I feel like the rings are some kind of weirdo minimalists
neat cedar
but
cloud wadi
The rings that raised ryoshu
neat cedar
buuuut
cloud wadi
Removing the flesh to reveal true beauty within
neat cedar
||Mirror world version of roland and angelica's son||
this is a hack theory
do not take it seriously
but it made me think
fickle crown
But yeah, idk why
lean fjord
Removing the flesh to reveal true beauty within
something like that, yeah
fickle crown
But part of me is saying Ring Gregor because of his base EGO
lean fjord
reducing things to their base
similar to Ryoshu's SANGRIA
cloud wadi
Yeah
neat cedar
so it would be a minimalist school
cloud wadi
Or something like that
lean fjord
do y'all think Ryoshu might have some kind of marking or something on the gloved hand?
fickle crown
Possibly
lean fjord
to represent the Fingers
cloud wadi
I’d be shocked if she wasn’t marked
fickle crown
Or it's an allusion to the fact she is the hand that brings them all together
cloud wadi
Also it seems like she burned the index father
So it does give credence to the idea she might be hiding burn marks
Maybe she burned over the markings they gave her I dunnow
lean fjord
wonder how she got out of there
random spindle
she needs to have burn scars so all the hottest art of her by lesbians becomes canon
an extremely long prescript is written on the blade of the sword and if they can follow it they can [reach heaven]
cloud wadi
Do you think Ryoshu considers Middle Father to be an embarrassing dad
Do you think he’s gonna immediately dote on her and baby her the moment he sees her again
atomic steeple
Middle guy acts exactly like how you'd expect a Dad frim.the middle to act
He's gonna be like that jock from the babysitter horror movies
Who keeps cheering for the mc even when on opposing sides
And congratulates him while dying
eternal berry
I fully expect him to look at us and be like "so you've all been treating my kid well, right?" and imply he'll annihilate us otherwise at the very least
cloud wadi
He’ll be having a friendly conversation with us and then suddenly reach over and snap Heathcliff’s neck when he calls out Ryoshu’s bullshit
For being rude
Oh no wait
Ryoshu ran away from home
And Middle has rules against deserters
fickle crown
I think he'd be both hostile and possibly sorrowful over it
Asking why she'd leave her family
Asking why she'd go when he treated her so well
cloud wadi
Yeah
atomic steeple
Dante presses the red button for ryoshu right in front of her parents
fickle crown
I think his main problem was that he probably ostracized her by accident
neat cedar
How index will benefit from all this
somehow
the index always does
it is the Will
of the City
cloud wadi
Thumb: Strict discipline
Middle: doting over protectiveness
Ring: brainwashing
Pinky: Externalization of blame
Index: control, loyalty, and obligation
Index father subtly accentuate his connection with ryoshu
Remind her that she did him wrong before
And “gently” reminds her he still has her daughter
To get her to do what he wants her to do
Which is return home
Of the fathers he’s the most uhhh subtly manipulative
And seems to know just what buttons to press
Each of his arguments tugged at values we know ryoshu considers important
Ryoshu has a strong sense of duty, love for children, and a surprisingly good sense of right and wrong
So he reminds her that he is the victim of her actions, that he is owed deference due to paternity, and that her daughter is waiting for her back home
And this kinda stuff is very much index to a T
Because Index’s thing is that they know precisely what to do and say for maximum effect
And that they have perfect knowledge of the content of a person’s heart
neat cedar
mhmm
fucker has a very fucked vibe
which makes me wonder if he's taking the place of thr Lord
cloud wadi
Basically he knows exactly which heartstrings to pull
neat cedar
they're doing some abusive oarent dynamic
could be the narrator, yeah
though i imagined the nsrrator as more
weasely
atomic steeple
The narrator
Was more of an enabler
A bootlicker
He kept the falsehood of the lord as good
fickle crown
Thumb: Strict discipline
Middle: doting over protectiveness
Ring: brainwashing
...
I actually think the Ring would be more interested in showcasing whatever latent talent Ryoshu has
Maybe even like
Grooming her essentially to be a trophy child
cloud wadi
It’s more of a philosophical connection between index and the narrative of hell screen
Ultimately index puts forth the idea the individual viewpoints and perspectives doesn’t matter and that holistic collective viewpoint is what is the Truth
fickle crown
But yeah I'm being weird about the Ring one specifically because that does like
Being back some bad memories on my end
cloud wadi
I think I kinda meant grooming her to be a trophy child when I said brainwashing
fickle crown
Ahh ok
cloud wadi
Like trying to make her learn their artistic philosophy and become an artist etc
Shaping her as according to their vision
fickle crown
Something tells me she had a lot of "after school activities" from the Ring family member
cloud wadi
Rather than treating her like a person with agency
I do wonder why she primarily uses ring skills
cloud wadi
Something tells me she had a lot of "after school activities" from the Ring fami...
Assuming she didn’t just directly go to uh
Ring school
They run educational institutions in the backstreets I’m sure
I’d frankly be shocked if they didn’t have some kind of private school for gifted children
fickle crown
I meant that they're the kind of parent to leave their child with no time to really be themself essentially
The kind of parent that loads you up on a bunch of extracurriculars
cloud wadi
Yeah
split beacon
Okay the Ryoshu family freak outs actually makes WAY more sense now that we know family is like a curse for babby Ryoshu
split beacon
I do wonder why she primarily uses ring skills
Consider: her traits of loyalty and rank discipline/obeying people stronger than her deferentially were probably taught by the Thumb and Middle people who raised her
What did she learn from the Ring? Aesthetics and self-expression
cloud wadi
what did she learn from the Index, I wonder
split beacon
And her fatalistic acceptance of imminent defeat is probably something she picked up from the Index
cloud wadi
ah right
split beacon
She’s pretty indifferent to the various jobs the Sinners are assigned as well
Really, Ryoshu as a person is someone designed from childhood to be abiding and adjusted to the City as an environment if we are to believe she was raised by these people in this manner
And tbh it shows, she’s the one Sinner who’s ready for whatever her IDs throw at her and never ends up so unable to roll with it that she dies or crashes out
The only ID she kicks it in is more or less fated to end up that way and is pretty collected facing certain death
gentle mulch
which one is that? Maidshu?
split beacon
Yea
gentle mulch
huh yeah guess the index does fit
atomic steeple
"Guess I'll die"
ebon forge
I really want to get myself a metal 3D print of Hongler’s Guan Dao
split beacon
Hey
So those characters in the trailer definitely are compressed hopium for more Finger syndicate IDs yeah
atomic steeple
Sinners as ryoshu's parents
split beacon
they were already allowed to be Hong Lu's siblings
why not let the sinners be Ryoshu's sorta-parents
fickle crown
I'm incredibly disappointed by the fact we didn't have any of the siblings as 00 IDs
Or well
I guess cousins?
Relatives?
bronze zephyr
Same 💀
split beacon
not as 00s but we did get two of Hong Lu's brothers as 000 IDs
uneven canopy
siblings, but yea
uneven canopy
wait who's the brother other than jia huan
uneven canopy
FUCK you're right
ebon forge
Xue Pan ID when
I hope we get more Jia family hierarch candidates when we get the Nocturnal Sweeping BokGak
fickle crown
But what if more middle IDs
cosmic gorge
Daddy Finger, Daddy Finger, where are you? Here I am, Here I am, how do you do
sudden arch
I hope we get more Jia family hierarch candidates when we get the Nocturnal Swee...
10 limbillion more heishou IDs
dusty sigil
Man, I know she’s a launch ID
But
I really hate the way Reindeer Ish is animated
I think she’s probably the worst animated ID in the game
It doesn’t help that also her animations are crazy long
Especially her mind whip
bronze zephyr
Can’t help but agree
dusty sigil
Maybe I’m just spoiled by reindeer Hong Lu and Rodya mind whips
But it’s crazy how boring hers is
She barely even moves the staff
She just points it ahead of her
She barely moves the staff at all in her animations
She’s so stiff with it
ebon forge
we only got 1 EGO banner this season right
tiny cave
we only got 1 EGO banner this season right
Two
Arknights collab was a triple ego banner
bronze zephyr
Oh true
stoic fjord
How many Heishou do you have
everyone except for Mao Outis and Ram Don
know what fuck it I just want bloise
we bloising it here
bronze zephyr
Yeye
stoic fjord
hrmmm
so it'd be uhhh
NSang - XY
Shi Faust - XY
Twinhook Gregor - XY
Pequod Ishmael - XY
NShu - X
Fullstop Hong Lu - Y
Fullstop Heathcliff - Y
so I need....
450 faust shards, 450 gregor shards, 500 thread
or maybe replace pequodmael with Manager Don next season
tiny cave
Twinkhook Gregor goated?
stoic fjord
he's ammo, he's bloise
tiny cave
Ramdon is like okay for sinking
stoic fjord
all 3 pierce
tiny cave
But she’s by no means essential
stoic fjord
so the other pierce T4 helps him a bit
tiny cave
Real 7th member energy
tiny cave
Well on the plus side
You’re not getting this season IDs
So you can just get them next season
stoic fjord
2 weeks
I can probably get at least one
...Kurokumo rodion is bloise...
and she's level 1 so I can use her as ammo
worthy haven
i need to use my shards up
tiny cave
Yup, I ended up uptying a bunch of EGO to UT4 to use them up
bronze zephyr
i probably should use before conversion but the more shards i have the closer i am to immediate KK Heathcliff so,,
ill just have a billion thread
stoic fjord
ok so
NShu will attack the same target as NSang
so funny interaction
NShu and NSang genuinely just jumping a member of your team
Reindeer Rodion needs a hug and a warm mug of cocoa by the fireplace
we need to write a fanfiction of her and her buddies getting to enjoy a nice christmas at base
every time the game pauses slightly in MDE before a question mark makes me so excited
because it's the same pause as before the secret boss pop-up
but it isn't and it's just a tiny bit of lag
ebon forge
we need to write a fanfiction of her and her buddies getting to enjoy a nice chr...
Deal but only if you give me a jade eye /j
dusty sigil
gentle mulch
idk why but the image of verg being a mets fan tickles me
unique bane
it's not always about the golden boughs danteh
it's about the mets baby! love the mets, lets go! get a home run!