weary granite
Wasp reliably one shots every kind of overseer (flight path is the only bother)
Three rockets to bring flesh mobs low enough to finish with primary or gas nades.
Swat Stingrays out of the sky.
Can magdump a Harvester from certain angles after shield is popped or one mag and a half.
Breaker Incendiary + Gas Nades help with clearing out the voteless.
The Ultimatum is good for popping dropships.
Only thing this build can't handle is a Leviathan.
cobalt patrol
Oh yeah, Flamethrower is shockingly good into Squids - the big issues are not setting yoruself on fire, lack of range for flying things (mainly a stingray/levithan problem), and getting plastered by Harvie's lightning discharge
but if you can work around the latter problem, it will actually just shred everything on the squid front. In general squids are very vulnerable to "OH MY GOD I AM ON FIRE"
rotund marten
I will say with the exception of getting plastered by leviathans I'm not good at dodging yet, they're very fun to fight
especially when the team gets a proper firing line up and you get to just pour bullets into the satisfyingly large waves of flesh
cobalt patrol
Most peoples complaints iwth them is just they're al ittle rep[tive since they have very, very little unit variety right now
but they are fun overall!
rotund marten
I'm not sure the bugs have that much more variety honestly
but it's possible I just haven't exhausted the New Thing Fun Reserve yet
rotund marten
figured out a much improved SC farming route - Diff 1 on bots has smaller maps that still spawn lots of POIs and basically zero enemies, so you can sweep a whole mission in under five minutes with one person, and it doesn't seem to do the bug thing of almost entirely spawning Exterminates and forcing you to planethop constantly
20-40 scs per run so far
verbal summit
Yeah diff 1 just seems better for farming
One time me n a friend got 70 sc in a single run
rotund marten
decided to farm it "properly" and tally the results as a test
first half hour on one planet, second half hour on a second one - 320 SCs and about 60 medals in an hour
(had one mission where the items didn't register due to internet problems and couldn't remember exactly how many medals I picked up - 57 medals actually registered + a few)
a second person would probably improve that significantly, since the objective takes up the whole centre and the POIs are all in a big ring around the edge of the map, so there's minimal searching back and forth
you just run a lap around the thing, or half a lap with two
warp pack + AMR for crates + light armour + stamina booster, everything else is irrelevant because there's maybe one bot to shoot every other mission
unreal merlin
Squids as a faction represent a constant pressure threat in the form of lots of assorted things harassing you constantly in different ways (voteless everywhere, fleshmob tanks, overseers slowly advancing). There is a learning curve to fighting each enemy and figuring out what works vs them, but perhaps frustratingly no one weapon works perfectly against everything.
The Machine Gun support weapon is perhaps the closest thing to a one-gun-kills-all you can get. Set low RPM for picking off voteless and overseers (aim for the chest!), set high RPM and mag dump into fleshmobs. Does good work sawing off Harvester legs at the aforementioned weak segments as long as you are landing the shots.
Similarly, the HMG Emplacement is perhaps the hardest universal counter to everything squid, just don't lay on the trigger unless it's a fleshmob or harvester leg. Pace your shots because it only takes 1-2 to kill a voteless, a handful for overseers.
rotund marten
I'll have to remember to bring the HMG emplacement, I am still used to that thing being absolutely awful as it was in the first few months
these squid mission extraction times are pretty brutal
four minute timer at least
unreal merlin
HMG Emplacement is genuinely one of the strongest green stratagems.
rotund marten
at least that modifier will vanish soonish
unreal merlin
It's obviously not the best vs heavies like tanks, but it does something and if you're willing to lay into a bile titan or charger it will eventually kill them.
Better if you rub some neurons together and aim for weakspots.
rotund marten
it used to be a complete joke, so it's nice to hear that going all Starship Troopers on things works rather better now
stone bridge
It was always very powerful, the problem was the turn rate was fucking abysmal
Then it got literally doubled and it became a powerhouse
glad marsh
And all things considered, it deserves it considering it's completely stationary :b
stone bridge
The game affords an incredible amount of power to stationary emplacements yeah
Not undeservedly
unreal merlin
It turns out there are few things truly resistant to a cavalcade of soda can-sized bullets perforating it.
stone bridge
The AT emplacement can hold down a position single handedly, it's beautiful
supple siren
Gatlin Turret +Any Other Turret kind of turns off the game sometimes
rotund marten
it's nice to have a horde shooter where "drop a turret" is not a really silly idea
remember the incredibly anaemic L4D HMGs?
they killed stuff fine, but they had a fire arc about two inches wide
unreal merlin
I've one friend whose loadout EVERY TIME is RR + 3 sentries, they are Engineer Gaming all day every day
rotund marten
I should use more of the support weapons that come with backpacks, honestly, make more room for sentries
stone bridge
The backpack reloading weapons can be serious monsters, the RR and Autocannon are omnifront staples for good reason
verbal summit
I tend to focus mostly on primary secondary and backpack rather than support weapon. Mostly cus the eruptor exists therefore I don't really need a support weapon
Sometimes when playing with randoms I just get one from the randoms
rotund marten
Autocannon I'm very used to, but I haven't tried the RPG thingy yet and I haven't run the RR in a hot minute
did the RR also get an AoE mode?
stone bridge
It did yeah
It has a High Explosive alternate load now
Not always useful, but good if you need a clumped group of Devastators dead now
cobalt patrol
One tip re voteless is they're super vulernable in the heads - Which means thingsl ike the Scythe, can well, scythe them down
Deadeye can down them in a single body shot anywhere, and will overpen them, killing multiple in a single bullet
Deadeye also drops overseers in a single headshot
though it's bloody useless vs Fleshmobs
Still, combos like Deadeye/Autocannon can ad will do serious work
MG turret is an all star on the squid front, as it kills anything that's nto a harvy/stingray/levi very well
The Talon is also really, really good as it basically never needs reloading, drops voteless in 1-2 shots, can tango with overseers and even in a pinch magdump Fleshmobs (It dont do a lot to em, but it can do it)
hexed steeple
what's talon
stone bridge
The laser revolver you do not like
hexed steeple
grr
cobalt patrol
You dont like Talon!?
It's like my single fav side arm in the game. fast, accurate, basically no recoil, never out of ammo, quite probalby needs a nerf because it's hoenstly kinda op
hexed steeple
i don't like it cause it needs a nerf
cobalt patrol
oh, valid
gdfi
i just crashed to dekstop at the end of a cmapaign
and i was hosting so i think the campaign must just be a dud
mossy mango
I also like the Talon
My loadout RN is eruptor, Talon, Quasar and shield backpack
Lets me solo a ton of stuff
Just gotta book it against hordes
rotund marten
I need to give the Talon a go, I don't have a go-to sidearm yet
currently rotating between Redeemer, Grenade Pistol and Senator depending on loadout and front, almost always Senator vs bots just because it can delete hulks
stone bridge
have you considered giving them an....ultimatum???
split parcel
Crisper has been my go to sidearm for a while
mossy mango
I want the senator but I don't have that war bond yet
verbal summit
So when does the halo wqrbond drop again? For some reason I remember tomorrow but it's usually Thursdays so?
Also sick tricks
unreal merlin
So when does the halo wqrbond drop again? For some reason I remember tomorrow bu...
Th 26th
cobalt patrol
If it drops at the usual time, it should be <<t:1756198800:F>>
mossy mango
A work day 😭
rotund marten
new much faster credit grinding method probably means I could get it at drop
do I care enough about the stealth gear...
mossy mango
Yo fast credits 👀 👀 👀
rotund marten
figured out a much improved SC farming route - Diff 1 on bots has smaller maps t...
see here
timed it at about 300 an hour, but I was properly focusing
goes down a bit if you're just happily running around popping boxes while shitposting on the other monitor
ionic holly
yknow
i know by now the armour passive can be a bit outdated per say but fuckin man
i keep finding myself coming back to the dynamo
ionic holly
3 days
strange vine
ionic holly
Good lord, good thing i've fuel in the tank
unreal merlin
Normal strain, just a shitload of them.
strange vine
harsh kayak
Although it’d be funny if the RC car was an just a stratagem to call down an alien egg
ionic holly
aghhh i want the fuckin m90 already
burnt vapor
https://www.vxreddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1mxfw8e/i_worked_entirely_too_har...
The stats on that smart gun are bonkers 500 ammo with decent damage, high fire rate and medium pen plus presumably auto aim
Also I think that grenade is just the gas grenade.
Still a cool fan bond but my god the balance
cobalt patrol
I would really like if i could stop getting crash to desktops when hosting the defend the rocekt missions
strange vine
The stats on that smart gun are bonkers 500 ammo with decent damage, high fire r...
Only 1 reserve ammo box though
cobalt patrol
I'm just amused at the mental image of an Alien trying to be all Alien, and then getting Bile Titan'd
tight zephyr
Man. They gotta do something about warstriders.
stone bridge
Like what?
tight zephyr
Either less tanky or less able to ragdoll you.
winter shuttle
yha thats a common complain
tight zephyr
I’d be okay with their current attack setup if it was easier to kill them when you get the drop on them.
cobalt patrol
Probably need like a little more of a cooldown betwene their shots
it's mainly their laser cannon being *right8 after their grenade spam that makes it a pain
you get out of cover to avoid the grenades, you get blasted, you get up and grenades are landing all around you
It's fine with RR, but... that is not an argument it's okay
rotund marten
tried the much more efficient farm route with a proper squad
3-4 people with a good number of warp packs managed about 700 SC/hour, and filled up on medals
picked up Borderline Justice and still have enough for the Halo bond when it comes out
not a huge fan of the Deadeye so far, but the Talon is neat, as is the make-my-Senator-cracked armour
unreal merlin
Talon is honestly better than a lot of primaries. Deadeye has a neat niche but clear weaknesses, still a great accurate hole-puncher.
karmic prawn
The fact you can quickly whip out the talon, punch holes in something and switch back is so nice
unreal merlin
Specifically you can dump 7 shots with zero consequence and immediately swap off it, and 7 shots is enough to mince not just devastators and overseers but does huge work on even fleshmobs.
rotund marten
Deadeye is just not my style, it has a very particular set of targets it seems to be good for and the reload takes an aeon
I do better even against Devastators and similar by spraying down the weakspots with the Variable, which I have very much fallen in love with
looking forward to trying the Talon out vs squids and bugs
unreal merlin
wrt the deadeye reload, siege ready armor makes it feel great to use
Talon vs bugs is just kinda stupidly versatile. 4 shots directly to the head kills hive guards and alpha commanders
cobalt patrol
Deadeye is just not my style, it has a very particular set of targets it seems t...
I find it really wants to be paired with Talon, or another good sidearm.
It's main virtues are riudiclous damage, ap3, and ridiclous knockback, which means even missing weak points bullies the crap out of things like Alphas or Devs.
and it's range makes it a good pocket sniper rifle
I don't actually find the reload that bad, it's an issue, but that's what your sidearm is for
and getting in the habit of loading rounds whenver you can since it's round reload
Def has weakspots, but it and purifer are probably my favourite primaries
i dont evne think siege ready isneccesary, but i'm pretty fastidous with my reloaqds
and run talon to compliment it
rotund marten
I am relatively bad with single shot rifles, and the combination of bad anti-horde and bad anti-heavy means I'd generally rather have something with a bit more of a range
it is fun to murder devs with, granted
unreal merlin
Overseers are fun to get the drop on, as it only takes one headshot to drop them.
A lot harder to do in the middle of a heated fight.
rotund marten
at this rate I'm going to have all the actual gameplay-affecting gear in the warbonds done before I've gotten all my ship upgrades, since I still need almost all of the tier 4 + 5 ones
need to go get a truckful of rare samples
verbal summit
3-4 people with a good number of warp packs managed about 700 SC/hour, and fille...
God damn. I mean I managed like 500sc in 1 hour but then it was like 300 the next so I'm gonna say average of 400 an hour n that was with 2
rotund marten
it's basically "drop on the edge, run across the map in an evenly spaced line, loot everything, extract", takes maybe 2-4 minutes per mission
very relaxing honestly
verbal summit
Yeah
I know what you mean
Just didn't know doing it with 4 would be that much better
Ping me next time you wanna grind sc btw
rotund marten
clearing up a diff 10 now, but I'll probably be grinding a bit more in a couple of hours
verbal summit
Sure ping me whenever I don't have a lot to do today
I may bring a friend with me depending on when
Unrelated but I'm still excited for what they may bring for attachments for all weapons
cobalt patrol
I am relatively bad with single shot rifles, and the combination of bad anti-hor...
I actually think it's underrated as anti hoard.
It can't over penetate Helldiver skulls (don't ask me how I know), but it over pens vote less and similar chaff. And frankly anything that drops a hunter in a single bullet deserves consideration
Though I will point out I'm basically always carrying mg turret to compliment it/my load outs
Which just goes to show you can't white room these things
It's a fantastic gun if you build around it. And it just happens the way I build around it really gels with my playstyle
rotund marten
I keep meaning to bring MG emplacement and then don't
on a side note, I've really been enjoying solo super helldives in cities, since the SEAF mean there's a bit more for the bots to do than chase you around
yet to clear a map before running out of lives but I've managed a few normal extracts + am getting better at the strat jammers
possibly worth bringing the portable hellbomb just for those
unreal merlin
Just do it. HMG Emplacement is shockingly good any time there's a mass of non-tank enemies at a distance.
quick plinth
anyone notice that bots are a bit odd? dropships empty/half empty. warstriders missing their guns on spawn, tanks dying before dropping down?
tight zephyr
Oh you too, huh?
supple siren
SEAF Hacker Legion taking their processors to task
do keep getting the explosive sky tanks
I kept congratulating my RR friend before he was like "oh I'm not doing that"
unreal merlin
Clearly this is indication of the Automaton menace's crumbling logistics in their futile efforts to destroy that which Liberty has built.
rotund marten
I had assumed the sky tanks were a result of the ungodly amount of 380 the team has been calling down in the last few days, but I have seen quite a few
hazy oriole
Either less tanky or less able to ragdoll you.
i wouldn't hate the ragdolling as much if i didn't feel contractually obliged to bring hard at to deal with warstriders
god i wish the constellation system was properly communicated to people
strange vine
anyone notice that bots are a bit odd? dropships empty/half empty. warstriders m...
Its a bug where theyre taking damage from the dropship before they land for some reason
idle hollow
how is the three way beatdown going
are ya winnin son
ah
badly
(i know that it's the "ooh xbox is joining" one and it lasts a week but oof that amount of invasions and OOF that illuminate territory)
sharp crater
(at the time of posting, we are:
yeah it looks spooky for sure
the incoming 3-way invasion of super earth
rotund marten
going to have to clear up some squids posthaste
unreal merlin
I don't particularly like fighting terminids either, but at least the bugs aren't an endless horde of garbage.
For the most part, bugs are one type of threat. Bots are one type of threat. Squids are every kind of threat at all times.
rotund marten
Squids have not yet begun to bore me, although I imagine they will eventually
they're fun to blast through
cobalt patrol
I keep meaning to bring MG emplacement and then don't
Not the emplacement. Just the mg turret.
It's really really good these days, with a very short cooldown
fleet nacelle
Picked up the game before our vacation started so as soon as we get home it’s time
verbal summit
Nobody likes fighting squids.
Yeah I try to like illuminate but I just find them to be so fucking annoying
Idk if I would try to pinpoint what makes them so annoying I wanna say it's the flying overseers
If they were less mobile or died more easily the game might be less annoying
cobalt patrol
Idk if I would try to pinpoint what makes them so annoying I wanna say it's the ...
Most support weapons swat them very efficiently. Autocannon can one shot heads, 3 to the body, or 1 body+ anywhere nearby with flak.
Mg/stalwart can go for the chest and just end them
Mg turrets eat them alive
So many bullets their chest armor shatters in seconds and then they just die
tight zephyr
It’s the meatballs that piss me off.
Especially when there’s a fucking wall of them charging you.
cobalt patrol
Again, Flak mode. Also Mg turret. gas grenades or gas mines. or gas strike
tight zephyr
I hate the autocannon, so I guess it’s gas, gas, gas.
ionic holly
i wish i had a strong feeling on any of the factions to relate to this sort of stuff
the most i can say is bugs sometimes frustrate me but that's just cause i use heavy armour everywhere so i know that's self inflicted
stone bridge
I hate the autocannon, so I guess it’s gas, gas, gas.
Any kind of spammable anti-personnel explosive absolutely rinses them - Eruptor, Crossbow, Grenade Launcher, Cluster Launcher, GL Battlement etc.
If you don't like any of that, grab the MG or HMG, turn them to max RoF and gun them down that way, but it'll take a fair few rounds
split parcel
WASP takes them out in like 4 rockets i think?
karmic prawn
Eruptor can two shot them if you get it just right
Airburst launcher deletes them too
stone bridge
There's options, you just need to cater your loadout
steady flameBOT
Even the LMG does good damage against the meatballs.
karmic prawn
Generally as long as you have one bullet hose, one explosive option and something with at least medium AP to deal with harvesters and stingrays you should be OK
The LMG is probably the best MG for meatball duty
I usually take the MMG though since it can handle harvesters and jets and isn't as unwieldy as the HMG
tight zephyr
Maybe I'll take the Eruptor and use Peak Physique to use the MG as a makeshift primary.
cobalt patrol
I use peak physique all the time into squids, mainly for autocannon.
It does good work
stone bridge
I use peak physique all the time into squids, mainly for autocannon.
I usually run Enforcer to not implode to Stingrays and still be mostly mobile
daring monolith
I really like the wasp into squids
One rocket kills an overseer, three kills a fleshmob, four-odd kill a stingray, and it can take down a harvester if you get lucky with where the missiles hit
cobalt patrol
I usually run Enforcer to not implode to Stingrays and still be mostly mobile
I find autocannon is way worse without peak. Also I can just punch voteless to death, which is a pleasant if not super relevant upside
stone bridge
Skill issue, I've been running it since the game started 
Punching voteless is funny though
cobalt patrol
I man, I used to run ac on bots without it
And did fine, but the extra aim mobility is so good
And I say skill issue on not dodging stingrays =p
stone bridge
Sometimes you have literally no warning due to their strike path just...not appearing
lilac yoke
Or it appears after it's already been shot
stone bridge
Yeah, that's a Game Issue
cobalt patrol
Neither of those have ever happened to me. And I can always hear them when they're about to attach run.
So... ???
Fair enough if it's an issue for you.
(also tbh I just don't view "oh I got evaporated" as a big issue. If it happens it happens, but it's not usually gonna happen. Rather have the snappier ac movement so I can track stingrays & Harvey limbs more rapidly)
stone bridge
It has absolutely happened to you before, we've been in games together where it's happened and it's a known issue :p
Maybe not personally, but it is a thing with how the strike path is rendered
cobalt patrol
Oh, I'm not disputing it's a thing, it's just not something that sticks in my mind as like "I need to build around this"
odd arch
I get unmarked strafes on the regular, it's mostly mildly annoying by making me miss the window to both get out of the way and shoot it down
verbal summit
Most support weapons swat them very efficiently. Autocannon can one shot heads, ...
They're too mobile imo
unreal merlin
I would say that a more specific phrase would be "they're too erratic"
They move decently fast and fly over things which makes sense for hovering enemies, but it's impossible to predict how they're going to move moment to moment. They change direction and altitude with zero warning and make it very frustrating to try and hit them with many weapons
verbal summit
Yeah
cobalt patrol
There are reasons i consider Autocannon mandatory on them
er, peak phyisque* mandatory for using autocannon on em
warm flint
I would say that a more specific phrase would be "they're too erratic"
The game in general is erratic, which makes it so that when it asks more of you with difficult enemies it fails to allow you to give more because of bugs and aiming
unreal merlin
My honest solution to swarms of flying overseers is to drop an MG Sentry
They're actually just a build check, always bring MG sentry
Not gatling
verbal summit
Bring the ballistic shield n the stun lance and cry in defeat as you can't even stab the flying overseers
Anyway completely unrelated but it'd be cool if they made armours whose perks buffed specific stratagems. Like an armour whose buff made it so you could disengage the hoverpack early or be more maneuverable with it or something. N similar such things for other stratagems
cobalt patrol
I love the enthuastic mirth emote
and the fact that using it at someone means they'll often reply with theirs
adn then youget the entire squad cackling like loons
tight zephyr
It’s been a long war.
daring monolith
Was it a super store emote? I think I missed it the first time it came out
verbal summit
It's in the store rn
ionic holly
I love the enthuastic mirth emote
I personally cut mine off after the initial bit so it just sounds like a scream
Also, tried out the punisher for a bit earlier since it's decent prep to what to expect with the M90 general vibe wise
Was rather enjoyable, actually
strange vine
i like it
the 2 big buffs i wanna seee for it are 4 shots per mag and maybe like an extra quarter second of grace period at max charge
ionic holly
4 shots would probably make it one of my main picks
3 just feels so weird
strange vine
mhm
unreal merlin
My only real want for it is to have enough demo force to blow up nests/fabs/ships in their weak spots
Anything more is a buff i think isn't too necessary but won't turn down
Quasar will still beat it on bots since that has no falloff or drop, meaning every 10s or so you can pick off yet another fabricator from across the map
Or other scary enemy, same with bugs, you can just jumpscare BTs from 300m away
cobalt patrol
I'd personally like .5 second of a charge faster (and a .5 second extension on how llong you can hold the max charge)
that'd smooth out most of the burrs for me
tight zephyr
I’m still grinding Super Credits, but I’m looking forward to all the newbie Helldivers and their inevitable and grisly deaths.
ionic holly
i need to find an xbox player asap and strap a hell bomb to them
"you are now a thermonuclear device, get in there kiddo"
rotund marten
rounded out my SC farming today, I now have 2k so quickly grabbing the halo bond for the armour and the silenced pistol won't set back my efforts to collect all the strats much
cobalt patrol
Noice
unreal merlin
can't wait to find out the odst warbond will come with more shit in the superstore
why is there a Type-51 Carbine and a Type-25 Directed Energy Rifle? don't ask questions above your paygrade, helldiver
warm flint
i need to find an xbox player asap and strap a hell bomb to them
I did that with a level 2 player the other day
They literally said "this is my first mission"
unreal merlin
ionic holly
They literally said "this is my first mission"
WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD
ionic holly
can't wait to find out the odst warbond will come with more shit in the supersto...
Also haven't they said a couple times there won't be anything new in the superstore?
rotund marten
<@&1206091872716595200> who would like to dive a D10 or two with me before the chaos descends this coming morning?
weary granite
Oh boy, I can't wait come tomorrow after work only to be greeted by
"Servers are at full capacity."
rotund marten
fleshmob black magic is now sticking helldivers under the map
cobalt patrol
can't wait to find out the odst warbond will come with more shit in the supersto...
They've been very clear that what's in the warbond is it. No ifs and or butts.
Damn shame, I'd kill for the needler
cobalt patrol
Bleegh, i very much do not like the random crash to dekstops when i'm hosting
quick plinth
since the ODST warbond is independent from the regular warbond schedule, do we know roughly when its supposed to come around?
winter shuttle
T-minus 40 minutes
quick plinth
T-minus 40 minutes
are you saying we'll we getting two warbonds? also it gonna be another hour after the 40 minutes
1100 CEST is the usual drop time
winter shuttle
i'm saying the ODST hellbound will drop in now less then 20 minutes
as for a new one, i think only on the next month
quick plinth
i'm saying the ODST hellbound will drop in now less then 20 minutes
its 1000 in sweeden soon not 1100 though
idle hollow
ecksbax divers are here
fringe quiver
1 hour 20 ye?
cobalt patrol
I thought 20 minutes, myself
fringe quiver
Oh if so das neat
cobalt patrol
patch of some kind is out
cobalt patrol
1 hour 20 ye?
ODST Warbond launch: <t:1756209600:f>. <t:1756209600:R>.
So ther weo go, it launches in 3 hours from now, booo
stone bridge
bruh
cobalt patrol
rip us
mossy mango
I'll be at work
winter shuttle
cobalt patrol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/497294084348575754/1409827312043692072/im...
Is this like, players online, or ?
idle hollow
i think
cobalt patrol
Going by helldivers i.o it is
...92k players for a live service game that's not like, Fornite/cod/wahtever, oiver a year and ah alf into it's lifespan
is still just
??? bwhacky.
(Good whacky, just whacky)
idle hollow
mossy mango
It's floated around 40k since I started so more than double is huge
cobalt patrol
20-40k is the average amount, which is like, still nutty.
sharp crater
be fun to see later tonight when NA east gets home from work (also the upcoming long weekend)
cobalt patrol
I 100% think they'll get a big boon off the new NA players yeah
also Shams is implying that Somethign is COming TM
sharp crater
fear
verbal summit
I wonder what
Shit our pants implies scary/difficult
Unless they mean "OMG THATS AWESOME" kind of shit your pants
cobalt patrol
It's usally the latter fwith Shams
mossy mango
New enemy faction????
calm sorrel
What was the big event last time he said "shit your pants"? The control group warbond?
cobalt patrol
and here we go
graceful bluff
Huh I guess I chose a good time to check
mossy mango
I'm at work 😭
ionic holly
page 3 m90, painnn
sharp crater
yeah they said the halo one would not disrupt the normal schedule
strange vine
OH SHIT
https://youtu.be/dJi8VsvnkoE
graceful bluff
Yeah I just didn't expect it to be the same day
strange vine
FLYING BILE TITAN
sharp crater
yeah same, I thought it was coming later this week
sharp crater
aha!
graceful bluff
ohgod caves
burnt vapor
EDF time
burnt vapor
Rock and Stone
graceful bluff
I'm kinda amazed they even let you detonate a hellbomb underground
was half expecting that to just have the shockwave turn you into mist even way past the normal aoe
burnt vapor
||Oh god burrow strain||
graceful bluff
We really need a sam site stratagem already
Weird choice of censoring the medals?
fringe quiver
Weird choice of censoring the medals?
probably because it has more than 250
and would cause people to go "WHY YOU CAP MEDALS AT 250 ARROWHEAD"
sharp crater
would be fun to have the Eagle 500kg to act as a bunker buster in cave areas (since it already has a delayed explosion) with a ship upgrade or smth
cobalt patrol
The burrow strain look great
sharp crater
(tho I do like not having any strats in caves tbh)
burnt vapor
The unspoken threat of the hivelord concerns me greatly
graceful bluff
I'm sure it's nothing 🙂
cobalt patrol
...Yeah i was about to say oh fucking hell, we're finally getting Hivelords arent we
burnt vapor
7:27 is an intresting number
graceful bluff
Trick of the light 🙂
steady flameBOT
Is it just me or does Dust Devils not really combo with Into The Unjust?
cobalt patrol
No, it makes sense - most of the support weapons are utiltiy orteintated, and the new ar would be very useful
sharp crater
seems fine to me
sharp crater
like yeah obviously the turret won't work inside caves but it's still fine on the surface and will probably(?) do well against the flying titan
cobalt patrol
you know how we keep saying hivelord?
LOOK
LOOK AT THE ART FOR INTO THE UNJUST
right behind the center helldiver
They just... they just painted it rifght there.
burnt vapor
Oh we're in danger
BUT SO ARE THEY
cobalt patrol
calm sorrel
"He's right behind me, isn't he?"
odd arch
wireless gas system
cobalt patrol
The harpoon is honestly pretty cool, i hope it's good to use
sharp crater
we even have a whale
odd arch
I wonder about the direct hit on the harpoon
cobalt patrol
For comparssion, here's the Adjucator
So less damage, 2 more amo, less recoil, better fire rate.
and ofc, can't be cujstomized
sharp crater
seems fine
stone bridge
I just got done using the MA5C
daring monolith
Seems like a decent sidegrade to the adjudicator?
stone bridge
It's far more ergonomic than the Adjudicator, and the ADS mode is hilarious
sharp crater
I was about to say, it doesn't compare ergonomics
stone bridge
You straight up go Halo style, no sights but you get recoil reduction and additional accuracy
cobalt patrol
`Honestly, sounds great
cobalt patrol
Seems like a decent sidegrade to the adjudicator?
Yeah, i like that the tradeoffs are there, but they're all trade offs in nice/interesting ways
I'd be annoyed if it was straight better
it does seem like it's straight better than Lib Pen possibly
stone bridge
Also, looking at the halo shotgun, seems to have less mag size but 50% more damage than the Punisher
which is gnarly
cobalt patrol
Yes, 605 damage or something very silly
odd arch
wonder what will the missile silo's deal be
daring monolith
It would be neat if it was medium pen but I understand why its not
odd arch
to distinguish from eagl- oh wait
the laser designator
answered my own question
presumably it has a lot more range than a pokeball throw
cobalt patrol
It would be neat if it was medium pen but I understand why its not
I wanna know it's durable damage, as that'll probably make or break it
daring monolith
Yep
I’m also interested to see how well the suppressed guns work
cobalt patrol
also, i just gotta applaud arrowhead stealth dropping this, very nice 1-2 punch marketing wise
get everyone hypeod for Xcom players and the BOOM, you have this to garuntee you stay in the news
Very clever
and ofc provide a ton of hype for the enw p[layers
burnt vapor
If nothing else Arrowhead has consistently been great at marketing
strange vine
I wanna know it's durable damage, as that'll probably make or break it
About 200 iirc?
quick plinth
have we got any footage of the silo?
daring monolith
Tiny bit in the deep dive
I assume we’ll get a full trailer for the warbond
calm sorrel
yeah, you see a hellpod land and the designator pop out so someone can grab it. When they do, the missile arms, and later it flies to a bile titan and blows it up. 6:50 to 7:10
quick plinth
how's this channel on leaked footage? spoiler? or none at all
stone bridge
spoilered
quick plinth
I did not name that file
the Silo seems to
|| be a sort of anti objective weapon? maybe you can continouslly guide to a moving target? though it does not seem so||
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409817957609111674/1409817963942641775/silo_sex_real.mp4?ex=68aec2cb&is=68ad714b&hm=63a0c96e5334bea84eaab27b62cf951271f37521e0de7ff8af23a3299ba24218&||
calm sorrel
nyoom
rustic portal
quick plinth
I imagine the silo ||is going to be a lot more elegant than what we see in the leak||
idle hollow
You straight up go Halo style, no sights but you get recoil reduction and additi...
the fallout 3 ADS if it didnt suck
stone bridge
the fallout 3 ADS if it didnt suck
Lmao yeah, spot on
graceful bluff
The silo is great for stealth plays
also seems to be at least a 500kg so can probably hit detector towers
I'm not quite sure what the role of the speargun is though
it's not damage because it didn't even onetap a warrior, it deploys a tiny gas cloud(smaller than a gas grenade), and probably doesn't have a lot of ammo
tall stone
What's the AP?
graceful bluff
we don't know
tall stone
Ahhh, not actually out yet.
My bet would be precision Heavy Confusion if it has a gas cloud.
graceful bluff
but sending a serrated steel pipe through a warrior almost as long as it is and it not killing it makes me sad
calm sorrel
sending gas clouds at range could be pretty good in tunnels. Bugs in a choke point get blinded and stuck on each other
graceful bluff
sending gas clouds at range could be pretty good in tunnels. Bugs in a choke poi...
I just feel like the gas thrower would do such a better job though
calm sorrel
yeah probably
graceful bluff
I feel like gas backpack+flamethrowers gonna be real nice in tunnels though
unreal merlin
I look forward to hyper long-range gas harpoons. Sometimes I need to put a gas cloud precisely 170m away.
strange vine
idle hollow
steady flameBOT
Why must SC farming take so long?
verbal summit
we even have a whale
Oh my god
tardy onyx
Speaking of SC farming. I've been playing this game on and off since lunch and I found out today you can blow open in those half buried shipping containers for sc.
ionic holly
god i already love the halo weapons so far
i was iffy about the SMG at first cause i kinda felt like i already had the same thing but not really, feels so much better to handle than our other high fire rate options
i'm still like 50~ medals out from my shotgun though
verbal summit
Does the suppressor work well or?
Idk how it'll work in the game
Like is it videogame suppressor where you can fire damn close to people n they won't hear shit or is it whatever realistic is (idk what realistic suppressor I'd like)
ionic holly
Does the suppressor work well or?
I dont stealth dive so no comment
but for upfront combat, feels pretty nice
rotund marten
the FRV doesn't seem to be quite as bouncy as it used to be
someone threw a bunch of bricks in the back
rare nymph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyGtCWLOGJU
My first thought when I saw the mobile oil rig was the Convoy map from Unreal Tournament
Something about large vehicles crossing a desert environment dredges that map up from my memory lol
graceful bluff
Convoy was such a perfect map
which is why there's a map like it in basically every game that has a map editor
ionic holly
wait we have a city named new alexandria?
graceful bluff
I'm sure it'll be fine and not have any problems with fire
rotund marten
I think we have enough helldivers now guys
<@&1206091872716595200> who wants to go shoot squids with the new halo guns
steady flameBOT
Would love to, but planning on adopting two new Heccdivers. :3
unreal merlin
tight zephyr
unreal merlin
Does the suppressor work well or?
It works quite well. It doesn't help if you're bullet hosing (lots of noise) and enemies you're shooting AT will rightfully react and retaliate, but if you're appropriately careful enough you can pick enemies off one by one
The ODST armor passive works (to my eyes) the same as the Scout armor passive, which was already absurdly good at minimizing being detected.
ionic holly
I'm sure it'll be fine and not have any problems with fire
i was more so thinking the reach city
unreal merlin
I'm told it can sustain a 4 second bullet hose
hallow gorge
strange vine
the first person view on the assault rifle is very cute
keen zinc
bugs
strange vine
ionic holly
29 more medals until shotgun
rotund marten
very funny that spamming infinity turrets and mine deployers on the Squid evacuation mission a) makes the mission really quite easy and b) results in you being 1000 req slips in the red by the time the mission ends because the SEAF cannot and will not stop running into the minefields
if they just ran over to the squad of helldivers and their Imperial Fists number of gun emplacements they'd be totally fine
supple siren
They train civilians wrong as a joke
They seem to sense Hellbombs and gather like moths
sharp crater
they don't tell them what landmines or turrets are to keep their minds safe from the tragedies of war
they're just curious
supple siren
Trying to convince a friend we don't need a backpack slot and they should stay stratagems, it just feels overpowered and a little thoughtless if they were always available idk
stark ether
it would feel really good till they ballanced the scales
and if they didnt the fun would run out
sharp crater
oh you mean like, you've got a backpack/inventory with an EAT in it instead of calling it in?
as opposed to:
the backpack slot that houses like: the autocannon ammo, personal shield, etc
stark ether
i think the friend wants 4 strategems and a backpack for selection at the hell pod in the destroyer
stark ether
ye, thats too stronk
clasic case of removing this loadbearing difficulty adjustment would make the game better says the user that doesnt realize its a loadbearing difficulty adjustment
ionic holly
supple siren
Great title for 'em
sharp crater
I see!
Yeah I think it's a bit strong but also limiting in design (as there isn't enough non-ammo backpacks for there to be a ton of choice for it to be worth it imo). Which is funny because you'd think that having more slots would increase design space, but one that's specifically for backpacks isn't a great idea. Also you could potentially run into a scenario where something like the Recoilless Rifle ends up being 2 slots because it comes with and/or necessitates a backpack.
supple siren
That's essentially their ideal, they like the RR because it "takes up the backpack with one stratagem"
They just want every box always checked, or something
sharp crater
huh. an interesting perspective. I was thinking it was because they wanted the shield generator all the time (which was me for a time, to be real)
ionic holly
They just want every box always checked, or something
i mean, kinda defeats the purpose of a team-centric game, no?
sharp crater
the way I see it, it's more like they see not having a backpack as running an incomplete inventory, even with 4 other strats
supple siren
100%
ionic holly
also, immediate notes i caught from using the m90 before taking a breather, surprisingly tight spread, likely was given a tighter one due to its performance in halo but also cause its not like it has a choke option
supple siren
But they don't want to 'sacrifice a strat' for a backpack
ionic holly
it can reload fast enough to do the funny halt/punisher tech
and you carry total of 44+6 rounds instead of 60+16
stark ether
But they don't want to 'sacrifice a strat' for a backpack
the correct response here is "no thats the intended design they want you to have to make that choice"
supple siren
See that's what I said and I'm glad it seems to be consensus
sharp crater
yeah, unfortunately the 4 strat limit is an intentional design choice (and works well imo)
ionic holly
Fun fact by the way!
the m90 is our second highest damaging primary
the only thing that beats it is the crossbow by 15
but yeah, much better collab guns this time
everything feels distinct in some way
supple siren
They mentioned wanting to retool the others, too
Love when a company kind of listens to feedback, gosh
ionic holly
Aye, i do hope the killzone stuff gets a pass, i can see the vision just
needs a little touch-up
Admittedly in saying that im not quite sure what i'd want?
maybe turn the AR into a proper bullet hose since we lack one in the AR category (could argue variable but its TECHNICALLY not an AR and its alt fire modes exist)
SMG is honestly the toughest cause the M7 has the niche i'd want for it
maybe retool it into a slower firing higher damage one? kinda like a baby reprimand you can actually one hand?
and the sniper uhhh
i dont know, i like the concept just
really needs the damage to be worth it
hazy oriole
Excited but a little apprehensive for the coming update, mostly about the new enemies
Really really don't want another leviathan or warstrider situation
rotund marten
finally actually managed to kill a few leviathans by myself today, and it is quite satisfying
ionic holly
I'll admit i've not had much issue with war striders
but i also tend to pack a lump sum of AT
rotund marten
and yeah, the warstriders don't bother me much, they hate thermite and I usually have the 500kg ready to go
I feel that Leviathan durability would be better if they didn't just respawn the moment you manage to kill one
ionic holly
Spear my beloved for me
unreal merlin
Any of the typical "tank problem solver" tools work fine vs war striders
rotund marten
if there were a fixed number circling the map putting them down for good would be most satisfying
strange vine
hazy oriole
Im mostly worried about the bile dragon (seems to have a similar design philosophy to the levi) and the burrowing chargers (regular chargers are annoying enough as is)
rotund marten
I'm looking forward to more boss monsters to kill, the factory strider goes down kind of easily once you know how to handle it and the leviathan is firmly in the Not Worth Shooting bracket unless you have very particular gear, and even then they just pop up again
so hopefully they aim somewhere between the two
supple siren
I think it all looks incredible tbqh
Been jonesing for new map types
And even the rockiest enemy launch (Levis) were manageable just weird
rotund marten
bugs are my least favourite faction, but I am still hyped for sandworm and flyrant
unreal merlin
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzSNBApbYAAgoZW.jpg
"Helldivers on 2 September:"
steady flameBOT
Can I have some reminders on the good warbonds for new players?
warm flint
Democratic Denotation for termites
Steel Veterans has the senator and a bunch of other good weapons
rotund marten
Democratic Detonation is probably the biggest quality of life package
thermite, eruptor
royal lantern
I would say the priorities are Democratic Detonation and Polar Patriots
Democratic Detonation is almost certainly the best warbond overall for value in the game.
Polar Patriots just offers three very different all usable primaries, though the purifier specifically is one of the best in the game, and a solid sidearm that's basically an upgrade to standard
Steeled Veterans is also really solid (Jar-5 Dominator my beloved) but unfortunately the Liberator Concussive is just a little bit unfortunate
Though the Senator makes up for that
The flame warbond is also quite good overall, though obviously pretty specific. Truth Enforcers has two very good primaries and a solid secondary, but the rest is a bit of a mixed bag.
tight zephyr
The Senator…
rotund marten
gave the halo armour a spin while super-credit farming but it seems basically useless for it
the POI detection radius increase is barely noticeable, you can easily find them further away with your eyes, and it being medium rather than light armour slows you down
silent SMG might be handy though, still waiting on medals for that
winter shuttle
in fucking sane
rotund marten
upside to playing with the rookies: they look really impressed about the mech rather than calling me an idiot for bringing one
winter shuttle
who calls you a idiot for bringing a mech ?
rotund marten
downside to playing with rookies: every time there are voteless within a 15 metre radius they drop a cluster directly on their own heads
winter shuttle
the exo suits are fucking great to bring
rotund marten
on high intensity bots I usually call myself an idiot for bringing one, since they tend to get popped very easily by all the gunfire
they seem OK against squids, though
less gunfire, and you can very quickly empty the entire thing into waves of fleshmobs and overseers, call it a good strat use and carry on
winter shuttle
i call myself a idiot when i wall on those fucking explosive plants
and my warsuit dies
strange vine
290k players now
winter shuttle
SMOOTH JAZZ INTENSIFIES
ionic holly
yeah i love the m90
this thing can two tap overseers
its not super consistent just cause their arm can get in the way, but damn
also staggers the FUCK outta em and just about anything else
i think the list of things it doesnt stagger is far, far, faster to note than things it does
rotund marten
M90 being the halo shotgun?
strange vine
Oh the exosuits will be good for underground work
ionic holly
M90 being the halo shotgun?
Yeah
30 medals out from the socom sadly
the folk saying it needs medium pen or "doesnt hit hard enough" are, respectfully, just genuinely wrong
or purposefully being a "oh light pen bad!11!!" type
cause ill be frank ive
not met any fodder it doesnt immediately dunk in 1-3
rotund marten
the assault rifle absolutely ruins overseers, so they already have one weapon for that
not sure how it does against devs
looking forward to the shotgun and the silenced pistol
armour is meh but what can you do
ionic holly
I do think the armour's leg break immunity is a little undervalued but yeah i wish it wasn't as.. passive
mind you my value of it comes from someone who plays closer quarters, a lot
Granted, take my rating of passives with a grain of salt
i still run the dynamo armour more often than not, even though i love standard of the bearer and apollonian
but yeah in regards to the shotgun: do not let the light pen fool you, it kills, hard
well i say fool but to my understanding everyone here gets that light pen isn't some death touch some folk treat it like
rotund marten
I am number 1 variable enjoyer
although mostly on either autofire or mag dump modes because I cannot reliably hit weak points with Volley to save my life
quick plinth
makes stuff like the halt and variable a lot more handy
flak - APHET switching faster and might even make me use the RR HE round for once
cobalt patrol
@stone bridge Aftertalking shit about the whole cant see Stingray path thing... happened to me just now. I laughed
that'll teach me XD
tight zephyr
You can set your lobby to private you absolute dickbags.
cobalt patrol
welcome to the club <:sadcowboy:572822626456698892>
Right at the start of the mission too, for extra humor
trim breach
Admittedly
For me it's typically somebody jumping in right after a friend crashes
Or there is (or was) a bug where if you set it to private in-mission, people could still randomly join until you returned to the SD
spare verge
also if you accidentally call in the SOS beacon it overrides your privacy settings
cobalt patrol
Noice
I've only messed with the shotty and AR
neither's really my thing so far
Thoug h ithink the hsotty might be fun on bugs
unreal merlin
My current request is for these randoms with the AR to actually use it to shoot the medium armor bugs (why are they not?)
It's like genuinely good and rabble rabble sport bitching
rotund marten
AR is surprisingly good for mowing down bot infantry, but I'm not a huge fan of it for Voteless
doesn't quite have the mag depth
unreal merlin
For voteless, definitely not.
Wrong kind of mag/damage/pen array
The smg meanwhile probably rocks
rotund marten
then again I've just been using the truly absurd cooling speed on the Talon to keep shooting zombies forever so it's not really been a problem
it seems to cool enough for an extra shot slightly faster than I can switch targets unless I'm really sweating
unreal merlin
Talon is stupid good still, yeah
Can dump 7 rounds at once or keep shooting forever if you take a slow pace, and you can get loads of collateral kills in voteless hordes
cobalt patrol
I've been trying out the scythe more into Squids, and it's working pretty nice.
Melts overseers suprsingly fast if you go for the chest (And witha bit of practice yo ucan probably figure out when to switch so they die to ignites)
And well, scythes through voteless
rotund marten
I have never been a fan of the handheld continuous laser weapons myself but laser dog and laser turret have been staples of my squid diving so far
maybe I'll try the double sickle
unreal merlin
DE sickle is frankly just a straight upgrade to the sickle. Even without the "HMG MODE" of running fire armor and stimming while prone, running it at the 40-90% heat range makes it mulch so many things
cobalt patrol
Though the self damage can be awkward. It's still good though
And yes, if you're not aware @rotund marten you can't catch fire if you're prone. That's just science
rotund marten
I was not aware of that, good to know
super earth has optimised the stop drop and roll process to allow it to be done preemptively
stone bridge
Okay the M90A is gassed, it can one tap nursing spewers
idle hollow
as god (halo CE bungie) intended
lethal delta
Do we know what the armors do yet?
idle hollow
the dust devils ones?
it's resistance to fire gas acid and arc and increased throw distance
im guessing it's not going to be as good as the dedicated armours for that
lethal delta
So it's the helghast armor 2
odd arch
I run helghast with decent regularity
weary granite
Gonna be farming to grab the legendary warbond
odd arch
I'm a light armour addict and I bring fire and gas into bugs, they bring acid
good bang for my buck
graceful bluff
Laying prone with the DE sickle with the heavy fire resist armor is just too funny
agile fable
havent been on the bot front in a while and. damn. remembering why the creek was such a big thing, those bots got hands
normal juniper
And sometimes chainsaws on those hands :3
steady flameBOT
I jave remembered how much I hate fighting the Incineration Brigade.
cobalt patrol
Mortar Hulks are evil D:
ionic holly
gods i love the m90, there is a severe joy in shooting a devastator and watching the lower half literally get sheered out from under them
tardy onyx
I really like the variable. It feels like it's passable against almost everything.
ionic holly
It pretty much is, tbh
auto for horde clear, volley for weakspot hitting on like devs n shit, total for really big mistakes problems
rotund marten
I've gone off it against bugs, since the random hive guard mean it can't just delete hordes, but against anything else I love it
and it's still pretty neat whenever you get to remove a charger
I find I kill devs more reliably by just leaving it on bullet hose mode and spraying down the eye, though
quick plinth
the M90 should've been medium pen imo
quick plinth
I really like the variable. It feels like it's passable against almost everythin...
my only problem with the variable is that without setting up binds in the config, you can't in any way quickly switch between firerate and modes
tight zephyr
I need to do that for the Variable and the Halt at some point.
fringe quiver
Wait is the M90 light pen?
fringe quiver
Should be medium pen 😭
odd arch
nah
unreal merlin
605 damage, 11 pellets, 6 rounds magazine
winter shuttle
Wait is the M90 light pen?
its light pen yes, but if you hit a weak spot it liguifies the insides of any enemy, its great 😄
feels like a doom shuper shotgun
ionic holly
it really doesnt need the medium pen
It should be noted it staggers a fuck load
like ive mentioned here before i think but if you do just let out on full medium armour on like a dev or an overseer's armour, it staggers em hard
(also it can already 2 shot an overseer even with light pen)
unreal merlin
That's mostly because Overseers have breakable light armor on everything but their head, so the first blast destroys one or more armor sections and the second obliterates them directly
ionic holly
Mhm, mind you i will note it can be fussy sometimes due to overseers putting their arms in the way, sometimes bumps it to a 3
Not like their shield, just their physical arm
sharp crater
it'll 2 shot stalkers too, which with the stagger is an easy one-two
ionic holly
Its my favourite shotgun and i doubt anything will really come close
tight zephyr
It being the Punisher But More sounds correct for the Halo Shotgun.
north fiber
yeah, don't underestimate the amount of shit 605 damage can kill
in terms of actual strength it's the highlight of the warbond
ionic holly
i still quite love the socom
strange vine
Also the m90 still fires buckshot, which doesnt make sense to have medium pen when the only medium pen shotguns are firing either slugs (slugger) or flechettes (halt)
stone bridge
Why do people want everything to be medium pen lol
fringe quiver
I haven't had a chance to use the stuff yet so I'll wait till I get a chance, I wonder if it'll make me enjoy fighting bugs
cobalt patrol
Why do people want everything to be medium pen lol
Qol, i suspect. Like, i like my medium pen weapons, but i'm honest on: i am an imperfect shot and prefer knowing i always do damage.
also it just "feels" bad to see deflects pop up.
sharp crater
lmao
quick plinth
in this particular case because it's an 8' gauge shotgun
The M90's powerful cartridge makes it capable of efficiently engaging and defeating enemies with energy shielding within effective range.[7] The Covenant learned to be wary of this weapon in urban environments, noting its close-range lethality.[13]
the spread of the shotgun would keep it in line even if they did give it med pen
sharp crater
the dark side of crossovers
fringe quiver
I thought about saying that
but unless Helldivers has in lore what light pen is
you could also just say light pen is Halo shotgun pen
rare nymph
Well, we know that 10 gauge buckshot is firmly in light pen territory
As that's what the Punisher is
supple siren
Piercing Energy shields is obvs different from piercing Bug
rare nymph
And fundamentally, round buckshot isn't going to be very conducive to armor penetration just due to the geometry of the projectiles
That being said, I can't really comment on how the m90 feels to actually use as I don't have the warbond and probably won't for at least a few days
fringe quiver
8 gauge is bigger than 10 gauge fair yeh
unreal merlin
My two cents is the m90 feels good to use. Good reload rate, each shot is punchy and staggers like a truck.
Overseers get bodied by it.
weary granite
Is it bad that I kind of want a gravity hammer type weapon?
Specifically the Halo Brute Gravity Hammer?
unreal merlin
Melee divers always hunger for more
sharp crater
the monkey's paw: overseers now have grav hammers
weary granite
I mean come on. I want to run the THICC boi set.
Commando Heavy Armor
Energy Shield Pack
(Hypothetical) Gravity Hammer
Ultimatum
Thermite
Shotgun of Any Kind
sharp crater
I am excited for the new coyote incendiary AR
south temple
it looks so fun
stark ether
i just want melee power armor that makes me immune to stagger and ragdoll
dont need extra health or armor
south temple
the expendable napalm is also gonna hit like crazy
sharp crater
yeaaaah
south temple
highest team kill percentage here i come 🗣️🗣️🗣️
south temple
i just want melee power armor that makes me immune to stagger and ragdoll
a power armor stratagem would go insane
weary granite
Its the Fallout Power Armor. XD
sharp crater
I think the cluster frag might be goated too, but we will see
weary granite
Because arming your Helldiver with a Fusion energy powered suit is a good idea.
south temple
I think the cluster frag might be goated too, but we will see
that shit looks like a great way to accidentally kill the whole team because you dropped it
stark ether
nah gotta adapt it to fission thats more on brand
sharp crater
a mech but you strap support weapons to it. no, we don't talk about how it has all the ammo types
there's your power suit
south temple
i still hope that we get a minigun some day
weary granite
There is a lot of things we want in the game but Arrowhead seems to have trouble voding that in.
south temple
all i want is a giant fucking backpack that feeds me 12mm rounds
weary granite
Coding*
sharp crater
might also be a "we're saving it for later" type thing
south temple
also we need more fucked up lasers
weary granite
Which is fair. If they tried adding all the cool shit at once, our games would probably get liquified by the spaghetti code.
sharp crater
so there's room for fun/punchy things in later warbonds
instead of AR sidegrade #12
weary granite
Isn't the socom still fucked?
south temple
wdym
weary granite
Like not working as intended
weary granite
Hmm, must have quickly fixed it then
But yeah.
Where big bonk.
I want hammer to slap Overseers and bugs with
sharp crater
charged overhead for the shovel
unreal merlin
But yeah.
Where big bonk.
Sorry we can't give you a gravity hammer since the halo crossover already happened. Instead the best we can get you is the sledgehammer from Red Faction Guerrilla
weary granite
Give me the Skulldigger (Marauder Sledgehammer) and you got yourself a deal.
split parcel
Sorry we can't give you a gravity hammer since the halo crossover already happen...
do a darktide crossover and give me the thunder hammer
one shot hulks
cobalt patrol
40k/Helldivers crossovers amuse me because of how much the IoM and Super Earth would hate each other
(turns out Fascist empires do not get along)
Also because the way the tech levels interact is just funny. "The space marine has been squashed by a drop pod"
(then the other space Marines brutally dismembered the Helldiver)
split parcel
thunder hammer is the best weapon in any game ever
close tie with dragon's dogma warhammer though
arc of obliteration my beloved
karmic prawn
To be fair the space marines could probably have a 100:1 kill ratio and still be losing. The helldivers, they're so expendable!
unreal merlin
Unlike the mooks astartes are used to trouncing over, Helldivers come with an assortment of especially fucked up armaments up to and including precision tactical orbital bombardment (astartes power armor is not rated to survive this)
weary granite
arc of obliteration my beloved
Personally adore Corona Slash to send fools flying up high and Prone
rotund marten
much as I like blowing up space marines with heavy ordnance, I think helldivers would not appreciate tank-armoured dudes sprinting at them while firing automatic grenade launchers
we have enough trouble with warstriders and they're slow as hell
spamming railcannon and orbital lasers would probably throngle them pretty well, though
ionic holly
the arc-dog incident
weary granite
I feel like that having a teammate run Arc Gear. You only have one solution here.
"My friend. You are the Storm Stratagem. You must go on your own."
ionic holly
See i tried but they kept following me
weary granite
Also bruh, the Halo players really fucking gravitated towards the Illuminate because PORPLE
That's the first MO that's gonna complete.
unreal merlin
Arc dog does its best, it can't be blamed for the other divers not maintaining team cohesion and ensuring a perimeter keeps out enemies from rushing into your midst
fleet nacelle
weary granite
Nah, that should be the Ultimatum.
weary granite
Bruh, be wary of Bile Titan corpses. Even when they stop their fall animation you can spontaneously have a heart attack if you touch one.
ionic holly
There is
so much joy in shooting a hulk's back twice with my m90 and that fucker just dying immediately
not even entering bleed out, just dead
weary granite
Two shotty blasts to the bavk would do that to just about anyone
ionic holly
i love my funny halo shotgun, all my friends are inside it
ivory swallow
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone for dives?
ivory swallow
actually, i think i found another squad
normal juniper
nods nods
ivory swallow
@rotund marten sorry i probs shoulda just dmed
steady flameBOT
I know something I wanna see for the Halo guns, but.. I doubt we'll see it at all.
Namely: Lemme full choke my M90. :>
rotund marten
pleasantly surprised by the silenced SMG
not top tier or anything but very easy to use and adequate for diff 7
ammo would be a bit short without the current buff, though
will have to try sneaking around shooting bots with it
weary granite
Find it kind of hilarious that the first "Stealth" armor we get is the ODST armor.
blissful sparrow
Orbital Drop Sneaky Troopers
rotund marten
the ODST armour is not actually great at sneaky looting, but I'm hoping the silenced pistols will let us kill a bot or two while infiltrating bases or strat jammers without instantly sending up the mega alarm
ionic holly
ammo would be a bit short without the current buff, though
A little curious how you mean this? cause from what i can tell that ammunition dispensation isnt effecting total ammo/starting ammo?
unless that effect just means like, ammo boxes you find in the wild which
man if it does that explains why i just didn't get what it was doing
rotund marten
I thought it was providing more mags, but I could be completely wrong in this because I've only been using the new weapons and I'm not sure how many they have base
ionic holly
Nah that's fair
it isn't, however
all SMGs aside from the reprimand carry 7 mags total
rep gets 9
rotund marten
Possibly it's more from the pickup crates, I did get 2-3 mags from at least one
ionic holly
i think it's amount of crates, maybe
rotund marten
Again, don't know the base rate since the % of max ammo those provide already varies per gun
ionic holly
cause 3 per box is the norm for smgs
ionic holly
Yep yep
also fucked up thing i learned today, the bushwhacker just
starts with its full ammo
like, regardless of boosters i mean
rotund marten
I'm still not sure the new SMG would last on diff 10 though, I was supplementing it pretty heavily with the Talon on a casual 7
Interested to try the shotgun, I think we're all about to get a medal infusion from the squid op
ionic holly
I'm still not sure the new SMG would last on diff 10 though, I was supplementing...
Does it need to?
like- i know you probably didn't mean it this way but not every gun needs to be able to do everything, yknow?
rotund marten
No, I did not mean it that way
ionic holly
also Iunno, i still think it's frankly the best SMG on offer currently, but i'm also very comfortable with light pen weapons
rotund marten
but "neat little gun, drinks ammo" is my take on most of the SMGs, so I wasn't exactly surprised
the Variable remains my go-to on high difficulty missions for the anti-heavy flex and great endurance
ionic holly
I've not really got a comment then, no offense meant, just sounds like smgs aren't for ya and there's nothing wrong with that
rotund marten
I like them a good bit, I use them a lot when I'm playing on lower difficulties for whatever reason, I just don't think the ammo pools quite hold out if you're fighting D10 waves the whole time
although if the silenced one genuinely does aid in sneaking around I may change my tune, since solo super helldive is fun and generally involves more sneaking and less shooting
ionic holly
It should be noted, they're suppressed, not silenced
the tag is a little bit wrong
if an enemy is 36 feet or further they wont hear your shots, 35 and below and they will
rotund marten
a highly specific number
still, handy if my grenade slot is a bunch of thermite rather than knives, and if usually is on those runs
north fiber
Tbh I don't really see a reason to use the SMG over the Knight in the majority of use cases. Same bullet type, but 400 high fire rate and just as if not more controllable.
And it has full access to attachments (which helps with the controllability but also mag size letting you tune it however you see fit)
ionic holly
Then dont use it
personally i prefer the fire rate of the m7 simply because i dont feel like i either have to lock myself to burst or burn a majority of my mag in a trigger puill
and it doesnt feel as slow as the defender or pummler
Like, recoil is no factor for myself, even without attachments, but i just straight up prefer the m7 due to finding its ammo eco more bearable
rotund marten
I don't actually have the Knight because it's Super Citizen gear, so currently it's definitely best in slot of the SMGs for me just on handling and vibes
ionic holly
Also, that
the knight and stahl SMG are, by all means, missable gear
Unless the smg is just handed out to any diver when they first hop in, in general, mind you
ionic holly
Interested to try the shotgun, I think we're all about to get a medal infusion f...
Also, i am the m90's biggest enjoyer in helldivers for the time being so any remarks i make will be unabashedly biased
cobalt patrol
I am begigng people to read the strageioc aadvisory and get on fucking bore rock
arrgh
verbal summit
With 3 fronts people are just gonna split up to do whatever they like plus every single planet we've lost cus everyone just goes for whatever planet on whatever front they like
So I wouldn't put much faith on holding any planet or taking any
cobalt patrol
It's the fact that 20k are on the defence of the attack eminatimg from bore rock
verbal summit
The average person does not think :3
Ngl I also barely bother to keep up rn and I'm just playing what I like. I know we're not gonna keep any planet or take any either so I just do what I want.
sharp crater
yeah it can also be a barrier of entry thing. some folks just want to play the fun shooter (and by god they get one), so they click on the flashing planet with a shield on it and hit quickplay. there isn't a corresponding sword planet, so the connection or realization that it's even an option isn't immediate. At the very least, it looks like bore rock might just liberate before the defense completes. Plus the fact that they just put it in the dang dispatch is nice too.
I think it'd be nice if the "attacking" arrows were always visible, even if you're not hovering over the planet(s) in question. It'd look more dynamic too
strange vine
Bruh, be wary of Bile Titan corpses. Even when they stop their fall animation yo...
it used to be worse! Bile Titan corpses months ago had an invisible ghost that annihilated you if you stepped anywhere near it and it wasnt even contiguous with its corpse
weary granite
Nice
I am expecting the missile to be Hellbomb tier judging by the explosion. Because if it is then eating Jammers and Scramblers are going to be so nice.
odd arch
the spear is pretty much all I'm interested in in this one
though here's hoping the missile indirectly gets backpack hellbomb's cooldown reduced
unreal merlin
I want me harpoon. The solo silo will definitely be a must-have on a lot of bot missions though if it can destroy objectives like jammers
The time saved is worth it for the cost of only one strategem slot
odd arch
aw, but I like assaulting jammers...
calm sorrel
this all seems great. The speargun looks fun to mess around with, we can always have more big AoE grenades so the pineapple surprise is a win, the silo is so cool and obviously I want an incendiary AK and rocket launcher, who doesn't?
weary granite
Imagine a Helldiver Squad with these grenades.
Pineapple Grenade + Arc Grenade + Gas Grenade + Incendiary Grenade
= No Chaff please
strange vine
I am expecting the missile to be Hellbomb tier judging by the explosion. Because...
its prolly more like 500 kg, otherwise itll just powercreep the hellbomb backpack
graceful bluff
probably a hellbomb style strength but with less aoe
verbal summit
the spear is pretty much all I'm interested in in this one
I'm very interested in the speargun but I also like all the other things tbh
graceful bluff
basically a "Fuck this thing in particular" rather than "fuck everyone in this area including myself"
verbal summit
Once we get the harpoon gun we can truly go whalehunting from our galleon (frv)
idle hollow
this all seems great. The speargun looks fun to mess around with, we can always ...
incendiary AK is also med pen
graceful bluff
oof no sc in the legendary warbond, yeah I probably won't get it
strange vine
ionic holly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw
still hoping one of the sets is heavy, i like the passive
i'd be excited for the AR cause like damn that's fuckin' cool but unfortunately it came after the m90 was released
and i'm not using another gun
strange vine
still hoping one of the sets is heavy, i like the passive
medium and heavy in warbond, superstore one is light
strange vine
no idea
ionic holly
Given looks it's more than likely is
i'll have to see what i can mix with it helmet wise cause i don't like that helmet
verbal summit
still hoping one of the sets is heavy, i like the passive
Oh remind me what's the passive?
royal lantern
25% resist to all elements I expect and extended throw distance
royal lantern
Given looks it's more than likely is
i'll have to see what i can mix with it he...
It's funny you say that because the helmet is the bit I like from it
The incendiary AK is medium pen apparently
Which does lead me to suspect it will be pretty low single shot damage, like the stun rifle that's also medium
strange vine
25% resist to all elements I expect and extended throw distance
where'd you get that resist number?
royal lantern
Oh my butt, I entirely forgot to put "I expect" at the end
Because the acclimated passive is 50%
I am intrigued about the stats of the harpoon gun
lilac yoke
If it's a strategem it's probably not gonna be worth using
Will be interested if it's a primary tho
strange vine
I am intrigued about the stats of the harpoon gun
from the deep dive video, it one shots a brood commander's head, after which it bleeds out in about 2 seconds
brood commander heads have 300 bleed health and 75 hp/s bleed out rate
assuming it took 2 seconds to die bleeding out, thats 150 hp from bleed out
so in total, the speargun did about 350 damage to the brood commander's head
brood commander heads also have 60% durable
for shits and giggles, i put the possible damage values into a graph
strange vine
If it's a strategem it's probably not gonna be worth using
its a support weapon
royal lantern
Seems fairly reasonable, though the poison gas makes me itch a little because it strikes me as something they tack on when they realize it doesn't quite have a niche without a little ribbon attached
As opposed to the railgun, mostly
strange vine
ionic holly
unreal merlin
No more free shield backpack, now we enter the age of free orbital laser (it has no limited charges, just cooldown)
ionic holly
Likely just for the freebie, iirc its been handed out as a freebie with no limit before
verbal summit
Ah
Oh well
Admittedly missions are only 40m long and whats the coodlown for it when you have all ship upgrades?
10m minus 5% n what else?
Either way no real way you're using it up that much I suppose.
unreal merlin
300 seconds (5 minute) cooldown base, -15% (45 seconds) for the two ship upgrades, 255 seconds (4.25 minutes) cooldown
It's free though, and you can bring a laser of your own as well (still limited 3)
unreal merlin
Frankly, it having such a massive cooldown and limited charges means I will never bring it.
verbal summit
Same
unreal merlin
Even the 380mm Barrage I refuse to bring because of its massive cooldown.
verbal summit
I tend to bring stuff to wipe out stuff in one go
I get close to an outpost, point of interest or other some thing n drop an orbital airburst, 500kg or cluster depending on the front and shoot as well so that everything is dead before they even notice anything.
Stealth 
cobalt patrol
I only ever bringl aser on bot extermiantes
where it's usally fast enough to come back just b efore the end
and worth enough clear to help get space while you setup other stuff
supple siren
Laser's also great for base clearing, Walking Barrage an' that on a Blitz and most of the work done for ya
though all bow to 'antitank emplacement on any sort of elevation'
hearty pier
Laser gets bonus points in mega cities. In particular it was a favourite for those Repel Illuminate missions on super earth. When you are kiting 50 overseers sometimes you just want something that works
cobalt patrol
Oh man, i have been sleeping on the Dilegence into bots.
AP2 into bugs feels like shit, but the speed this thing moves at and has enough damage to one tap devs in the skull
really feels great
strange vine
Oh man, i have been sleeping on the Dilegence into bots.
Basic diligence is great on bots.
cobalt patrol
Yup, that's what I'm using. Head popping machine
hearty pier
Amendment is also a good sidegrade to play around with, trades a little mag size and ergo for the bayonet and better backup magdumping for berserkers
strange vine
strange vine
hexed steeple
big knife...
unreal merlin
If it doesn't one-shot them (their heads have always been a weak point) it massively staggers them.
daring monolith
A lot of the dust devils armor seems kinda dune inspired to me
Which is pretty neat
cobalt patrol
also apprently the new primary is an AP3 Ak.
with incin rounds
so that's reallll nice
ionic holly
Mhm, i'm curious where the damage will land since i assume the idea is most of the damage is in the DOT
unreal merlin
Yeah med-pen incendiary rounds will do huge work
ionic holly
I'm thinking somewhere in the like... 50-65~ range?
unless they make it REALLY pay elsewhere for higher damage
fleet nacelle
Oh god this video is great
“You’re telling me I have to play the game?”
ionic holly
Oh i've seen this one
genuinely wild to me how someone is so pissy they can't just pay to get everything they want
supple siren
Not to say "yeah that seems like a halo kinda guy" but well
ionic holly
I'd say cod more so, actually
supple siren
They're similar guys, in my experience
ionic holly
Given that you can just straight up buy presets of some of the guns and you don't have to unlock that gun
supple siren
Just the level of vitriol and instant anger and Having to Tweet about it
ionic holly
He's bitching about having to farm medals
hazy oriole
i do get the very basic sentiment being pissed about microtransactions/grind but realistically he should have looked shit up before spending 40 bucks on the game
supple siren
Also a majority of the money is just the game
hazy oriole
yeah
ionic holly
but he can't immediately get everything in the halo warbond! expecting someone to play the game??? that's bad business!1!1!1! /sarcasm
unreal merlin
"I got this game solely to play with the halo stuff"
sorry bud, you bought a game that isn't halo
not the game's fault you can't understand what you're interacting with
normal juniper
i get it to some degree but also like. being pissy about actually playing the game is the kind of brain poison you expect from someone who just whales their way through games in the Current Year™
fringe quiver
I get his problems, I don't agree with his reactions
like grinding sucks, if you pay money for something outside the current in-game grind, I get the expectation of not having to grind
unreal merlin
His problems are chiefly derived from his inability to do basic research and ask questions before acting. It's not complicated, he's just bumbling through the interface without rubbing two neurons together.
ionic holly
"I got this game solely to play with the halo stuff"
sorry bud, you bought a gam...
honestly this is
one of my only issues with helldivers crossovers, folk hopping in expecting their IP to have a lot in the game or their bits from the crossover to be the best weapons
fringe quiver
but also he should be aware it's the consequences of his actions of not being careful
ionic holly
(and it's not like he can't ever get these, warbonds don't exactly expire)
supple siren
And medal grind is so easy and not even something you have to work at unless you want to
normal juniper
like grinding sucks, if you pay money for something outside the current in-game ...
as a (former) d2 player i understand not being thrilled about grinding ad nauseam, but i do have to protest on the grounds that the grind is not separate, it is just playing the game as normal
supple siren
But playing the game without my master chief gun >>>:::[[[[
fringe quiver
yeah exactly
it's a really weird state
cause it's one of those things where I can see zeitghest not explaining this to people
but also it's like
unreal merlin
WRT halo warbond, apparently there's a lot of whining about the M6C SOCOM not being strong enough. Yet more examples of people having wrong opinions for the wrong reasons, I classify them alongside the War Thunder forums.
fringe quiver
I would like to think they should be stronger but fwiw I haven't actually messed about with them nearly enough
and it sounds like they might not actually need to be stronger
unreal merlin
At most I'd like it to be bumped up to hit the breakpoint of devastator one-headshots and/or raider bodyshots, but the whiners are whinging about it not being the Halo 1 Magnum that practically fires tank shells.
normal juniper
but it's not the halo 1 magnum
unreal merlin
It could get by with like, 10 more damage.
normal juniper
it's the SOCOM
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