Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[trail nymph]

same

[tight zephyr]

Sure, just ping me when you're ready.

[kindred lintel]

bro what is that unknown file

[pastel igloo]

unknown

[strange vine]

Blk

Hold on

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1d4v420/you_got_a_license_for_that/

[tight zephyr]

Yeah this MO can go right to hell, it's brutal.

[oblique storm]

You are correct spear is the best

[honest acorn]

Railgun is pretty good ime

Well now it is

[glacial light]

What does it take for a railgun to kill a BT?

[oblique storm]

If you aren't a coward and the titan is running straight on top of you the spear actually flies directly into its face

[stone bridge]

Shoot the connective tissue between its jaws when it vomits

[glacial light]

How many shots when it vomits?

[honest acorn]

Jaw shots in general do decent damage

But vomiting jaw webbing is almost a 1 shot

(And used to be)

[tight zephyr]

Okay, I'm free.

This is my account number for anyone who wants it: A7EE31256A65C913

[honest acorn]

What kind of account is that for?

[stone bridge]

Yeah uh, I'm confused

[trail nymph]

The numbers what do they mean

[honest acorn]

Well, anyone wanna group up while we get the Numbers sorted?

<@&1206091872716595200>

[stone bridge]

I'll be around in a bit!

[honest acorn]

Sounds good

[reef raven]

apparently it's been aknowledged by devs that bugs shouldn't be supposed to spawn right on the drill

Also something about the endless spawning which I assume refer to extraction shrieker might have been unintended behavior

kind of hope the hotfix doesn't take too long <.<

Also I'm wondering if the MO isn't already rigged to portray whatever is supposed to happen when Meridia is "destroyed". I feel that even some of the more arcane MO before offered SOME mean of tracking progress? Here I don't quite see much things like a progress bar on the MO

it's like we do the missions for the MO but I'm not sure where we're supposed to see how close we get to "goal"? It's really odd

[strange vine]

the regen was initially at 10%, when the highest before was 5%. its been slowly decreasing over time, it's 6.3% now

also they have outcomes prepared for win or loss

[reef raven]

regen?

[wide mural]

players completing missions makes number go up, regen makes number go down

[cobalt patrol]

Planets have a regen stat that represents the enemy's taking/holding ground

[wide mural]

so the playerbase has to commit hard enough as a whole to overcome the regen % and push progress forward

[reef raven]

Ok

I was wondering as it feels like Meridia isn't budging at all :/
Or rather is it normal the ONLY tracker we have is the one on the galactic map? I feel most other MO at least had a progress bar in the MO itself

[tight zephyr]

I've basically given up on the Major Order and taken myself back to my home on the bot front. I can't deal with this stuff.

[honest acorn]

<@&1206091872716595200> looking for a 4th

[cobalt patrol]

@honest acorn I'll be there very shortly!

lemme just get my morning meds done 🙂

[cerulean sluice]

Love how Super Earth still refuses to admit that this is 100% the result of the Termicide plan

[reef raven]

yuuuup

[tall stone]

We finally have made progress on Merida

2 and a half days to go

[cerulean sluice]

I personally think player numbers rn are just too low to support math made to support several hundred thousand players on at all hours of the day

[strange vine]

this doesnt really apply for liberation % because lib % is only based off the percentage of total active players on a planet

it doesnt matter if theres 60k active players or just 10, its just the percentage of the playerbase on a planet

[stone bridge]

the airburst launcher is real chaos

i kinda love it

[honest acorn]

I need to dial my eye back in

But its ability to make a whole patrol disappear makes me take it a lot haha

[stone bridge]

yeah fr

[honest acorn]

It’s also HILARIOUS if buddy loaded

[stone bridge]

i might try and tweak a loadout around it soon

as always I worry about anti-heavy capability

maybe you roll Thermites?

[honest acorn]

Yeah those can work pretty well

Gives you something

[stone bridge]

entirely possible you just ditch anti-infantry strikes with how effective the launcher is and go like

500kg/airstrike/cluster launcher/OPS, Autocannon turret or smth

[tight zephyr]

I've been really enjoying the railgun lately.

That and the Defender/Senator + ballistic shield has revolutionized my bot game.

I might drop the $10 to get the warbond with the Pummeler. It's kind of the last missing piece.

[stone bridge]

the Pummeler really does pop off

[tight zephyr]

The shield and the Senator just straight up let me bully Heavy Devastators right back.

I still find Rocket Devastators to be a bit of a chore, but that shield has been a real gamechanger.

And the railgun is a real multitool for bots.

It hits hard, it reloads fast for follow-up shots. You have the spicy option if you feel you need some more oomph.

I rarely use Unsafe though.

[strange vine]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1d5bn3k/super_earth_therapist_the_bike_titan_is_not_real/

[trail nymph]

New update fixed the spawns for the new mission

[stone bridge]

@trail nymph where'd you go today, btw?

[trail nymph]

got called away to help with some stuff thought it would be like 5 minutes ended up being 2 hours

sorry for the inconvenience

[stone bridge]

all good

[trail nymph]

i'm available now if anyone wants to dive

[cobalt patrol]

I can dive shortly

Just having some food and shit first, probably 15 minutes or so?

[cobalt patrol]

@trail nymph sorry, things have taken lkonger than i expected

[cobalt patrol]

Okay, the mission is way, way (almost disampoitnigly so) more chill post patch

[stone bridge]

boooo

[cobalt patrol]

but the patch does work you dont get breaches right ontop of you

also i learned the backpack kills you if you jetpack too much

[stone bridge]

oh really?

[cobalt patrol]

Yes!

I ran around using it to clear all teh bug holes

and then i exploded

[wide zenith]

Wait, the fwak?!!!!

Why?!!!

[cobalt patrol]

Because it's very very funny?

[tiny owl]

Did they fix the weird non-existent secondary objective part of the mission type too?

[stone bridge]

Fantastic

[cobalt patrol]

That's not fixed, Baskinator has mentioend they're sorting it and are apologietic about it

[tiny owl]

Ah well, the breaches being less ridiculous is fine by me for the time being

[tall stone]

Yay, we're finally making progress on Destroy Planet! Should be done before the MO expires.

[cobalt patrol]

Ooof, i am getting hosed today

[mortal wing]

Did we blow up Meridia?

[cobalt patrol]

NOT YET

[tight zephyr]

ow my back

[reef raven]

no but unlike yesterday the campaign progress bar is actually... progressing. Notable considering there's only 46k playerson Meridia this morning compared to the 60k+ active of yesterday where it wouldn't budge an itch in the slightest

honestly I feel it's indeed had time to move a little by the time I complete a single mission so... good?

[tight zephyr]

Although I prefer fighting bots to bugs, I really wish that most bots weren't impervious to damage from the front and also capable of tracking you like they're nailed to you.

[strange vine]

the liberation % only progresses based of the proportion of active players, not the number of them

[modest fiber]

when you get above 20 kills with a single bombardment

[strange vine]

me when i get 20+ kills with airburst launcher

[modest fiber]

good shit

[glacial light]

Oh to run airburst launcher, when I play with randos on rare occasions and everyone brings AT it feels nice to bring it

The patrol deleter

If something looks like it can call reinforcement I point and click at it before it can

[reef raven]

I just mean, I'm glad to see the campaign progress bar actually... progressing ^^;

Because it means Meridia can bleed.

And if it can bleed, we can ki-.... I mean, dark fluid implode it.

I have unlocked Suicide Missions on pre-patch Major Order Meridia. I want to see this through 😠

[tidal wing]

uhhhhhh is anyone else unable to launch the game after the patch?

on steam that is

[reef raven]

I haven't this problem.

[tidal wing]

I think GameGuard is catching false positives somehow bc it's the only thing that pops up

[reef raven]

Only issue has been my first crash to desktop instead of a crash-that-reboot-my-PC and it only happened once(meanwhile I dunno if it's the fiddling with my PC that did it but the later hasn't happened yet)

[cobalt patrol]

@honest acorn saved my life with the Airburst launcher earlier!

By shooting me with it so I flew backwards and didn't get hit by @stone bridge Orbital Airburst.

#planned

[honest acorn]

Yeah I did that on purpose

Totally

[glacial light]

Airburst Launcher preventing friendly fire? Alright time to nerf, it's too much.

Nothing gets in the way of me and friendly fire

[cobalt patrol]

Of course. That's why there were zero questions on how I survived or why I was still alive afterwards

[tight zephyr]

I was trying out the Tenderizer today and I really like it.

It kind of feels like what I thought the Liberator Penetrator would feel like.

Even though I don't think it has medium armor pen.

[ionic holly]

It doesnt

[tight zephyr]

Well, I'm going to be replacing it with the Pummeler once I unlock that but I do like this assault rifle.

[strange vine]

Tenderizer just needs some extra damage imo

[shy prairie]

Yeah the tendy thing is in the known issue list now

[supple aurora]

meridia extraction experience

[shy prairie]

just had a BT spew on me while facing 90 degrees away from me 😦

[last mauve]

they're adapting every day

[sour whale]

the bugs are learning trick shots...

[shy prairie]

The bile was coming straight through the foreleg, couldn't even see the head!

[barren iron]

such a weird scene

Never understood it

[supple aurora]

Zack Snyder thought it was cool

no extra explanation needed

[barren iron]

I have realised

I hate the flamethrower

[ionic holly]

Hm? how come?

[barren iron]

just kills me too often

hunter jumps on me, sets me on fire

really need a reduced fire damage armor set

[honest acorn]

I use the personal shield for that

[barren iron]

ooo

not a bad idea

[glacial light]

Personal shield prevents the flamethrower flames from going back to you and setting you on fire

Although you will still get hurt by ground fire

Let's you do real Lmb+W builds

[barren iron]

thats what this game needs

W+M1 builds...

[cobalt patrol]

That's not true, sadly. Personal Shield as a Flamethrower main is all about stopping hunters clonking you, blocking other slow sources, and saving you from teammates helping with airstrikes sex

[tight zephyr]

I think this is the first time I've succeeded on one of these drill missions and we still ran completely out of respawns.

[tight zephyr]

Hooray.

[unreal merlin]

Congrats, Pummeler is one of the best primaries IMO

[glacial light]

Pummeler and Ballistic Shield is so good against bots since it not only bullies bots extra hard but it covers some of the shields weakness which is berserkers and rocket troopers/devastators by staggering them

[heady halo]

i really hope they give the two lesser pummelers a bit of a shift at some point

[glacial light]

I read up to 2 lesser pummelers and thought it was a post about wanting a dual wield mini pummelers and I was 100% agreeing

Although I agree the other concussive weapons needs adjusting

[tight zephyr]

We did it, guys!

Fuck this planet!

[honest acorn]

Hell yeah

[pastel igloo]

holy shit

[tight zephyr]

We came out of a mission and got an emergency FTL jump back to Super Earth.

[idle hollow]

im so mad i missed it

i hope we have to pop a planet again some time soon

[glacial light]

I Imagine if you hovered over the planet and the stats says like 1 helldiver squad still on the the planet when you see that

They're playing helldivers 3 now

[unreal merlin]

The bugs are gone.

[rapid plover]

surely nothing bad will come of this

[unreal merlin]

Anyway it was cool, we did an emergency warp away to Super Earth.

[last mauve]

Yippee yay!

[tight zephyr]

Good, hopefully I will never have to fight bugs again.

[last mauve]

though I have noticed I did not get the medals for the major order completing

[tight zephyr]

It takes a bit.

[idle hollow]

give it a bit

[last mauve]

fair

[glacial light]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1d6ayvg/dear_democracy_officers_weve_been_robbed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[pastel igloo]

all we do is win win win no matter what

first the epic victory against the bots and now against the bugs

[stark token]

lol

[stone bridge]

Super Earth stays winning baby

[meager sandal]

got a brief look at the hive lord must be, must be coming to the game soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ2Clscn0Jg&t=95s

[alpine seal]

if it's this part, that's from a dune game

though i might've missed another part that whizzed by for a frame or two

[wheat plank]

Guys where the fuck did Meridia go

I logged off last night after doing a few dives there

[meager sandal]

oh shit it is, saw the helmet and thought that was h2

[pastel igloo]

it's gone

we destroyed it with dark fluid

[wheat plank]

hell yeah

I hated the extract portion of those dark fluid drops

couldn't even see the sky half the time

[pastel igloo]

yeah we got it tho

Meridia dunked

[wheat plank]

Helldivers: 1
Bugs: 0

[tall stone]

Turned it into a Black Hole.

That ties up the score from the Termicide L

[pastel igloo]

all we do is win win win no matter what

bugs and bots both holding the L

[wheat plank]

Termicide wasn't an L, that implies the breeding problem it caused slowed our patriotic Helldivers down for a minute

[honest acorn]

true patriot words here

[glacial light]

It was all planned, the increased spores lead to our personal dark fluid black hole that got rid of most spores

Without termicide we wouldn't have a black holes to throw stuff in

I've been throwing my used mechs in there, it's not like the bugs can use it

[cobalt patrol]

Misread as "idiotic helldivers" and well, where's the lie.

[wheat plank]

reporting you to my democracy officer for hurting my feelings :(

[cobalt patrol]

I was accurately describing myself and "Jetpacking onto tanks to laser cannon them is an efifcent tactic" 😄

[wheat plank]

Self deprecating commentary is still unpatriotic, Helldiver

if you destroy those tanks with that strat then it serves Super Earth's victory

[glacial light]

It's true self deprecation is still an attack on a helldiver and that is treason

[alpine seal]

report to your nearest democracy therapist, helldiver!

[cobalt patrol]

What's really unpatrioctic is i somehow just killed myself with the verdict?

[glacial light]

That's fine death happens all the time with Helldivers it's no biggie

[cobalt patrol]

They usually arent self inflicted from a handcannon tho;

[glacial light]

It's living helldivers that can file complaints and that use valuable resources

[cobalt patrol]

I think i somehow got flipped into my own shot?

[upbeat vector]

Aw damn

I am kinda sad that I didn't play

Cause I've missed it now

[wheat plank]

There'll be another event like it I'm sure

Just like the Creek

[honest acorn]

yeah most likely

[reef raven]

I do have to wonder now how long before the Illuminati(or their stand-in, if we get a treatment akin to the bot where something similar but not exactly show up in successor kind of way) show up

[wheat plank]

Considering we just turned Meridia into a black hole I can't imagine they'll ignore us for much longer

[honest acorn]

I reckon it'll be pretty soon

[reef raven]

honestly I'm eager to fight a new faction <.<;

[tight zephyr]

The Pummeler struggles a bit to seal the deal, I've noticed. But this is vastly outweighed by the fact that it just straight up leaves Devastators and Berserkers completely vulnerable to my teammates.

And even if they don't, I have enough of a window to whip out the railgun and wombo-combo the offending bot.

[reef raven]

just to see what tricks they'll have and what different meta to expect(I've noticed that while I default to the Antimateriel Rifle against bots, I almost instinctively become designated flamethrower gal when fighting bug using stealth armor to flank patrols of bugs with a firewall from my flamethrower while allies attack from the front)

[reef raven]

honestly this make me curious as I've enjoyed the base punisher against those enemies for similar reason of just staggering them when allies with better AP weapons take them out

[tight zephyr]

They just stop moving entirely if you put enough Pummeler rounds in them.

It behaves a bit like how EMS fields work.

[reef raven]

ooooo

[tight zephyr]

Works on bugs too.

Including Stalkers.

[wheat plank]

Funny enough I've kind of settled on the stalwart for bugs

(I don't usually dive past 5 difficulty so output beats penetration when I'm going bugstomping)

I used to main an smg but I'm giving the armour-penetrating liberator a shot

And the revolver never leaves my loadout

For bots I like the grenade launcher or the autocannon

[reef raven]

uh neat. I actually struggled with the Stalwart myself (it feels a bit too... light? It's hard to say).
Flamethrower I've specifically enjoyed for area denial and BBQing Chargers in a pinch even if that's more risky. Though as I've not unlocked level 7 missions(and I managed that on pre-patch Meridia no less which I'm oddly happy about even if it was likely more that I had good allies) I am finding it feels like it's starting to have less of a punch at those levels than I'd like so I may have to get the ship upgrade that boost fire damage.

[wheat plank]

The stalwart is definitely light

I 100% agree

I'd use the HMG or regular MG on bug drops but I can run and reload with a Stalwart

[tight zephyr]

The Stalwart feels like a Liberator with a vastly extended magazine.

It’s a main weapon disguised as a support.

That’s how I’ve felt about it when I’ve tried it, anyway.

[tall stone]

Yep, that's why I used it before pre-nerf Eruptor.

[shy prairie]

I saw a YouTube video saying that the stalwart is referred to as the "liberator mg" in the code

(They also concluded that the liberator damage buff was also applied to the stalwart, but idk about that)

People also say they use the same ammo? Which may or may not be meaningful in the code, I can't say

[wheat plank]

More or less yeah

considering how much ammunition the bugs eat up it's probably why I lean on it so much

[modest fiber]

same same, but also skill issue

[cobalt patrol]

I don't think that's ah elpful way to view fire. You hoenstly get chip ignited really eaisly no matter what you're doing, and even if you know about the wind mechanic (did you know there's wind in game and it affects how the fire deforms and flows off targets on hitting them?), actually doing anything meaningful with that is basically impossible

[honest acorn]

Yeah you just gotta be ready to dive if you use the flamer much

You will get set on fire eventually

[stone bridge]

Yeah

If you dive early enough fire is basically just chip

But it will happen eventually

[strange vine]

Oh my god apparently the black hole's sound is ||the illuminate combat theme distorted with whale noises||

[modest fiber]

now that is a beatiful hole

[oblique storm]

oh sure when meridian posts hole it's "beautiful" but when I do it-

[runic cairn]

yipee

[wheat plank]

LMAO I SHOULDA GRABBED A SCREENCAP

[runic cairn]

you can still go back

[wheat plank]

I CAN?

I will return tomorrow to take my picture

[tired mulch]

hey uh

if I may ask, why is there a blackhole there...?

[blissful sparrow]

Woke up this morning and there was the hole

https://youtu.be/bAIbvlobWDM?si=CTsAMItYjxfxFqCk

[wheat plank]

We made it 😌

[stone bridge]

Super Earth ordered the destruction of Meridia, which got transformed into a Terminid Supercolony by the malfunctioning TCS

We used Dark Fluid, a former Illuminate superweapon, to induce artificial gravitational collapse

[tired mulch]

ohhh

[stone bridge]

And now, black hole! There will be no consequences to this action

[tired mulch]

...I feel like you collapsed Meridia too well

[stone bridge]

Super Earth W woooooo

[tired mulch]

🥳

[wheat plank]

No one from Super Earth could collapse Meridia as good as the Helldivers!

This'll be another bright day in the history books for Democracy

[oblique storm]

Nothing will ever go wrong again.

Not like the LAST time we trusted those exact same scientists who told us to do this.

[runic cairn]

no those ones were executed rmb

[stark ether]

me looking at the pictures and videos of the blackhole:

can i point out that thats definitely a portal or is that still treason for the moment

[cerulean sluice]

Illuminate will probably drop this Thursday

[stark ether]

would be funny if the illuminate showed up unblackholed the planet and then left like "we aint fucking with that again"

[cobalt patrol]

Hell, i'd argue part of being a good flamethrower main is learning when and how to dive - if you watch me, you'll often see me just endure being on fire for a while and eventually dive backwards/dive to the side because it was... better to do it that way

[stone bridge]

True, but a lot of the time you can just spam dive and it'll be fine

[cobalt patrol]

You can, but i find that spam divei s a good way to get swarmed and you end up taking more damage trying to stabilioze the sitaution

as always YMMV

[stone bridge]

hmmmmm

they called out Moradesh specifically in the closing dispatch

What are the odds of something happening there?

[burnt vapor]

Low now that it’s being decommissioned something probably would have had we failed

[stone bridge]

Ah that's a good point

[quick crown]

Do you think that there will ever be a point in which we black hole like more than 4 planets?

[short rune]

https://tenor.com/view/we-did-it-we-saved-the-city-patrick-spongebob-spongebob-fire-gif-24201500

We did it Patric, we saved Meridia

[keen zinc]

That's not a black hole

That's a space station

[short rune]

Illuminate station

[lethal badger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/gVmVm4h8P3

[keen zinc]

its 100% a wormhole

we just threw a terminid supercolony into Illuminate space

[quick crown]

Take that you damn alien bastards

[keen zinc]

violating the terms of their surrender

[quick crown]

:dukenukem:

[keen zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/bionicle-gif-21136797

[burnt vapor]

Hey it was obviously a bug sympathizer plot to drag the squids into the war because the biological killing machines were losing the battle against freedom and managed democracy

[glacial light]

The unreleased art for the illuminate did seem a bit termindy compared to HD1 illuminate

I sure it's just a coincidence

[short rune]

I vaguely remember that the Terminites and Illuminates also werent at war?

It kinda was a SE versus all

[strange vine]

Yeah

[cobalt patrol]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F38q8nz7dna4d1.png

Steats tiered by team kill potential

[honest acorn]

I think orbital laser is too high

[cobalt patrol]

I feel airstrike needs to go up, while Flamethrower needs to go down

[blissful sparrow]

i do not, Orbital lasers are magnetically attracted to me

[cobalt patrol]

Honestly, when it comes to butchering teams, that thing does work

[honest acorn]

I don't think its higher than airstrike

[blissful sparrow]

the only reason Orbital laser tends to not teamkill is cause
a) you rarely use it, compared to others
b) you tend to throw it in an area and then leave it alone

[cobalt patrol]

I see way way way more deaths to laser than I ever do deaths to Flamethrower

[blissful sparrow]

but whenever you use orbital laser in active combat it swings back and forth to optimize teamkilling potential

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, airstrike is way too low in that list

Airstrike is an S tier team killer

[tall stone]

The laser has killed me more than flamethrower.

Me as the Orbital Laser chases a Hunter coming at me at Mach Die:

[honest acorn]

It's also EXTREMELY visible

[glacial light]

I could easily do an instant team wipe with a cluster, it's not even hard

[cobalt patrol]

I had a mission about 24 hours ago where the vast majority of deaths were all team kills.

And most of those were airstrikes and a player who's attitude to 380 was "yes"

[blissful sparrow]

still faster than me

[tall stone]

I expect people to run into Cluster bombs

[glacial light]

It's visible but can sneak up fast. You see a flash for a second then you're instant dead from the laser

If it's coming from behind

[cobalt patrol]

Anyway I mostly share this because it's funny

[tall stone]

Laser also leaves fire behind.

[blissful sparrow]

tho i think the worst thing is that it lasts so long
A cluster strike near you? you can notice it and avoid it and then continue
laser? You see it, you avoid it, you keep fighting and then 2 minutes later it decides the scavenger 30m behind you needs to die and cuts you in half

[gusty heron]

I've never seen a laser teamkill in the last 40 or so hours of playing this game, since I've ended up running it almost every mission and got it pretty when I started. The number of times I've killed myself on the fire of my own laser, however, is like at least three, and the number of times I've come very close probably requires more than two hands to count.

[blissful sparrow]

i am currently laughing my ass off. Decided to check up on if anything had happened to my support ticket with Arrowhead yet
For reference: i sent an email to them and did not get any email notification. i just checked and not anything in the spamfolder either

[pastel igloo]

Incredible

[cobalt patrol]

Bizzare

[civic apex]

https://fixupx.com/RRH_Art/status/1797445273322414347

[tight zephyr]

I’m just glad I don’t have to do that mission type again.

[tight zephyr]

It did give me an appreciation for the jump pack though.

I might start using it for bug missions because it’s good for when you just need to Exit Situation in a hurry.

[wheat plank]

I shoulda given it a shot

My ass ended up relying on the gatling and MG sentries and the Guard Dog drone

Gotta maximize that fire output while you wait on pelican one

[tight zephyr]

Well, the tank of dark fluid doubled as a jump pack. So it kind of forced it on me, and I found it useful for escape from bad times.

[unreal merlin]

Breaker Incendiary was pretty required on higher Meridia Dark Fluid missions. It really makes efficien work out of all the shriekers and lesser bugs.

[tight zephyr]

Firing it wildly into the clouds of shriekers was about the only way for me to survive extraction.

In hindsight I kind of wish I had the Pummeler at the time. Seems like it would’ve been helpful to keep the bugs off of the drill.

[alpine seal]

i want a dark fluid infusion ship upgrade for the jump pack now...

[tall stone]

OK cool, Termicide 2.0. Good to know we learned absolutely nothing.

[burnt vapor]

What’s the definition of insanity again?

[wheat plank]

I DON'T KNOW BROTHER, SUPER EARTH RECRUITED ME TO SHOOT, NOT TO READ

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers2-democracy-helldivers-ii-helldivers-2-gif-9589663661936890089

[oblique storm]

"even-more-perfectly designed" is the funniest fucking descriptor

[stone bridge]

lmfao

[glacial light]

Nah this time the new termidcide has dark fluid in it

Nothing could go wrong

[tight zephyr]

It what?

[sour whale]

surely this could never come back to bite us

[wheat plank]

Who's ready to dive on the Supermega giant colony world?

[heady halo]

INSANITY IS WHEN YOU DONT KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR YOU AND SPEAK AGAINST SUPER EARTH EVEN TACITLY

as is laid out in the SDSM 1000000 (Super Earth Diagnostic Statistical Manual One Million)

(With the help of Super Psychology, You Too can become a statistic in our great war machine)

[glacial light]

Someone made a typo and said bike titan https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/vB1MNm0y3l

[sour whale]

oh, that's great, lmao

[stark ether]

how goes the not portal?

[stone bridge]

still fine....for now

[stark ether]

i say we nuke it just to be sure

[hallow gorge]

And waste one of the 20 billion freedom warheads? Don't be silly I'm sure it's fine

Super excited for next patch though, even if it's not illuminate it's still supposed to be big

[quick crown]

I wanna go to fenris again is Fenris open for liberating yet?

[wheat plank]

You're absolutely right, let's send a detachment of Helldivers to investigate instead just to be sure

[tall stone]

Alas, it gets consistently defended because people like it.

[glacial light]

A classic https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/2rplO79mHp

[reef raven]

omg

but also this is a LOT of focus on the bugs in MO I have to say so far

wouldn't mind a Bot Major Order again

[barren iron]

lmfao

"Mark my location, northwest, far."

[glacial light]

Kill 6 billion ???????

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/E0CQ3ZnqVN

These terminid illegal broadcasts are getting serious enough to interfere with major order transmissions

[tall stone]

Live Illuminate Reaction

[pastel igloo]

the intro screen with Meridia in the background is fucking sick

[reef raven]

eeep?

[glacial light]

Helldiver are never eepy

Fatigue is the enemy of democracy, take your stims

[unreal merlin]

"A recent study shows a significant number of Helldivers park their ships in orbit of former planet Meridia when not engaging in active campaign efforts. Experts theorize that Super Earth's finest like to reflect on the resounding triumphs of the past during their periods of rest, searching for wisdom and tactics that may be applied to future victories."

[pastel igloo]

heh

[glacial light]

Question for my democracy officer, I've been doing nothing but dumping used mechs into Merida for the last 3 days

[stark ether]

no one tell super earth about blackhole bombs

[tight zephyr]

Yeah, no, I've just been using it to dump trash into.

[glacial light]

When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back. Then I feed it trash cause how could you say no to those hungry void puppy eyes

[tight zephyr]

Oh, you shouldn't give your Void table scraps. It's bad for them.

[wheat plank]

DO IT FOR SUPER THRONE

[tight zephyr]

I feel like all the emphasis on the bugs lately is going to bite us in the ass because the bots are going to take advantage of it sometime down the road.

[glossy horizon]

I wish the planets would be switched up a bit more - I know it has to do with the supply lines (or something), but I feel like it's very often the same planets (I think the hellmire meme is overdone, but it does come up a lot)

[tall stone]

With Merida taken out, Hellmire was the only path to reconquer some planets.

[pastel igloo]

dread it, run from it, Hellmire arrives all the same

[tall stone]

Also, I have good news, the bots have already taken advantage of it. We've lost so much territory over there.

Planets we had access to about 2 months ago: Charon Prime, Martale, Menkent, Lesath

Like

[pastel igloo]

that's not good

[tall stone]

From the first failed Anti-Tank Mine seizing, we have lost so much on the Bot side.

And the past few MO's have seen Vernen Wells, one of our training facilities, drop from fully taken to almost gone.

Like, even when we get Bot MOs, so many people just refuse to leave the bug front that it gets demoralizing.

[pastel igloo]

as a bug hater, i'm on the bot front with y'all

[tall stone]

Thank you.

[pastel igloo]

bugs suck ass to fight so i'm there with the bots

[tall stone]

We're on the certain win point for the Bug MO right now, so I'll be headed back to the Bots myself.

[pastel igloo]

i'm here to KILL the ROBOTS

https://tenor.com/view/its-robot-fighting-time-robot-fighting-time-battlebots-robots-activate-faruq-gif-20291385

[tall stone]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-family-feud-kill-steve-harvey-kill-family-feud-kill-gif-21764693

[wheat plank]

THEY WANT THE CREEK

[stiff pine]

Can't wait to fight on the creek again

[wheat plank]

It'll be my first time on the creek, funny enough

I didn't get a good enough PC to run helldivers with until like, just after the bots returned

[strange vine]

https://fixvx.com/helldivers2/status/1798363487258710165

[tight zephyr]

I missed the first round on the Creek and I want my turn.

[tight zephyr]

Also, this has been annoying me since I started playing. I really don’t understand the bughumpers and I’ve said as much several times.

I think fighting bots is a lot more fun.

[glacial light]

I agree but I think for a lot of people it's familiarity with horde shooters and terminids are similar to melee horde enemies like zombies or bugs

In most shooters ranged enemies usually don't out number your team size like in HD2 let alone a horde of them so it's new and scary

[wheat plank]

LITERALLY

I'm usually a bot front player and it's frustrating to struggle and fail

[tight zephyr]

Fight the bots!

[reef raven]

Tbh the series of bugs-only MO and the major medals rewards from doing a MO probably didn't help the bot front.

Though then again yeah

Though I was less active during the failed MOs

[gusty heron]

I love me my bots, bugs just ain't the same. I've had some fun with them over these MOs, though. And hey, there'll be Illuminate someday, so hopefully that will be dope, and I'll probably spend a lot of time fighting them! Unless they come out towards the end of this month because I will be playing Elden Ring

[honest acorn]

Department of heroic sacrifice lmao

[short rune]

100 yard stare

[unreal merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/261216581332238336/1206301970458218576/super-earths-strongest-soldiers-please-respond-to-our-sos-v0-6k3teuxn6uhc1.jpeg?ex=6661fc41&is=6660aac1&hm=37035a63ffcf028b9aa24d338d00687f0e775322c45e18e4d51fe31ea75629c2&

[heady halo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6oFUd_RL2w

[glacial light]

You know what I want like an arc grenade that likes zaps like 3-5 enemies with high damage arcs, something that's most effective against a small group of medium enemies

Or at least the not cannon fodder

[unreal merlin]

I just want arc weapons to be consistent first

Lightning grenade sounds cool

[wheat plank]

I could get so many friendly fire kills with something like that...

We need Super Earth to manufacture these things STAT

[cerulean sluice]

Probably as a reward for a Bug MO

[pastel igloo]

no more bug MO

or i riot

[wheat plank]

^

I grow weary of bugs

[pastel igloo]

fuck them bugs, we bots now

[tight zephyr]

Man does the Pummeler + ballistic shield combo rule.

[glacial light]

Yea it does

Be a menace to bot troopers

Dunk on shield devastators

[tight zephyr]

That plus the railgun has enabled me to hunt Devastators for sport.

[strange vine]

https://www.deviantart.com/the-red-right-hand/art/Commission-destroyer11100-1060526470

[glacial light]

Hmm I saw an interesting idea for a stun gun secondary on reddit

Nature is healing, it's not all about complaining until next patcb

[tight zephyr]

I saw an idea a while ago that proposed having Pelican 1 orbit to lay down autocannon fire.

[glacial light]

I saw a whole post that's about pelican stratagems where it's like a flying turret that rains death from above but has charges similar to eagle 1

But it circles a large area and stays for a short time

[quick plinth]

I have yet to see a single bot get supressed

really wish games modelled suppression that isn't like an RTS (rare)

[stone bridge]

I mean, the suppression manifests as inaccuracy

[tight zephyr]

Ehh that meme was a little too mean-spirited, I think.

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> im bored whos down

[stone bridge]

I will be after dinner, gimme like an hour

[orchid pulsar]

nice

[modest fiber]

sure

[cobalt patrol]

I'm sorta in a chill phase with helldivers atm, just doing elden ring for a bit. I'll probably be back in a few days once patch and warbond etc hit

https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1d8wvx7/how_real_helldivers_take_down_detector_towers/

This is a nice trick

aggro a turret, hide behind the detector tower

turret kills the detector tower

[lunar jetty]

https://vxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/1798686308258431215

[stone bridge]

Okay we might have a banger on our hands here

[blissful sparrow]

damn
Mozambique, Sleeveless armor, Baret, Knoife, and the camo looks a bit boring, but i'm excited for the system itself

[stone bridge]

Experimental infusion...

[modest fiber]

another warbond again.. welp time to grind them credits

looks wack tho

[orchid pulsar]

wack? how?

[civic apex]

mabye this will be enough to get me to play

only reason I dont play is becuase I cant stream it

not that ive been streaming lately

also further question

CAN we just melee with the knife ?

[cobalt patrol]

So if i'm reading it right, the Knife is a grenade replacement? Which is spicy.

[quick plinth]

Catachan jungle fighters lets go

[cobalt patrol]

Also this bit is notable:

"Firstly, we have been listening to your feedback as we develop our Warbonds in general. The idea behind each Warbond is to allow our Helldivers to roleplay their favorite soldier fantasies within our universe, but it’s important that these are fantasies that actually appeal to our players.

Based on player input, we’re changing our approach to Warbonds moving forward in a couple of ways. Firstly, we’re slowing down the pace at which we release Warbonds to give us a little bit more time to polish these designs before they’re released. We don’t want to rush anything out of the oven before it’s fully baked.

Secondly, we are changing the arrangement of items in each Warbond to make room for new item types, and also higher quality armor and weapons. This will prevent us from simply adding more of everything, which can lead to weapons that feel redundant and uninteresting armor. It’s time to focus on quality over quantity.When we started researching items for Viper Commandos, we wanted to be sure we answered our player calls for stronger theming that coordinates across all the items, more emotes, unique armor passives, and more thoughtful designs rather than simply giving more of the same. We can’t wait for players to get a hold our latest addition, so let’s dive into what’s in store."

TLDR: Slower pace of warbonds (No indication of what slower is, just slower). Less weapons/armor in each warbond, but more new cosmetics in return

[pastel igloo]

Nice

I like it

[cobalt patrol]

Also new titles.

[stone bridge]

Cool!

[cobalt patrol]

Gonna guess that it'll be a 6 week cadence rather than 4 week cadence.

"Both armors in this Warbond feature the Peak Physique passive, which improves melee damage and weapon handling."

New armor passive too.

[pastel igloo]

Nice

They are cooking

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, the throwing knife might actually be on melee? Dunno, guess we'll find out.

Also, that planet they show is a biome that's not been on any existing planets.

[civic apex]

wish t hey would release the silenced weapons already

[azure pewter]

Bonking people with eat tube is right in front of you

[quick crown]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jjba-stardust-crusaders-knife-knives-gif-26669502

me when the lobby lags and I can move still

[civic apex]

hopefully it allows us to melee

and not only throw it

[tight zephyr]

I've been using one of the armors with the prosthetic arm and leg because of that guy in Starship Troopers with one arm left who's like "The Mobile Infantry made me the man I am today!"

[short rune]

Holy shit

This fucks

[dusty spruce]

oh sweet, that shotgun seems real nice

[tall stone]

Secondary Shotgun!!!!

[modest fiber]

melee? so either we getting melee weapons or we can go full jojo on them fools

[sweet surge]

We one melee weapon in HD1 so it's stand to reason we could see one or more come to this game

[rapid plover]

Give us the sword, Arrowhead

[north fiber]

Btw, the skin tone on the biceps is randomized.

Get ready for the Usual Suspects™️ to start having a fit over it.

[hallow gorge]

I'm so glad the predator handshake is an emote in the warbond

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-muscle-strong-man-gif-5783927

[modest fiber]

glorious

[heady halo]

oh my god thats even better than none of them being white

[ionic holly]

Whole thing looks great, just not my cup of tea

[modest fiber]

am not a fan of tea my self either so understandable

[hot meadow]

Tbh gonna buy it just for this

[naive dragon]

Bushwhacker excites me

I will remain with my pummeler and shield on top of it

[hazy oriole]

New Warbond looks neat, but I'm gonna wait till next patch to see if the Polar Patriot guns get buffed into a state where I'd use them first. New weapons/armour are what I generally get warbonds for, so unsure how I feel about this more cosmetic focused approach they're taking in the future.

[glacial light]

If it's going to be 1000 SC as long as they keep the same number of weapons i'm good. They haven't introduced new armor effects in a while

I think last was arc resistance?

I wonder how shuttle cosmestic will work, does it take the pattern of the host or whoever calls it get

New booster gives stims a boost to movement speed and reduces damage? Medic armor gonna look goated

[hazy oriole]

this warbond's gonna have new ones

[hazy oriole]

Hrm, that's the thing, there's only 2 new guns in this one by the looks of it

[glacial light]

2 Guns and I assume the knife replaces grenades?

[unreal merlin]

Only sensible slot for it.

[glacial light]

We get a knife and we can only throw it, RIP melee fans

And armor effect spoilers? ||Reddit says it boosts melee damage and weapon handling? Real Destiny 2 Titan hours with big punch and big guns||

[glacial light]

||If they fix Eruptor then this would make it feel so nice||

[hazy oriole]

yerp

[unreal merlin]

I'd hope it has the ability to stab and slash with the throwing knife. I get it's a throwing knife but COME ON I TOTALLY AM GOING TO USE IT TO 100% STEALTHMODE THINGS

Give me a knife, fix my crossbow.

[glacial light]

Oh damn that's a good point, assuming it's silent cause throwing knife it'd be the first stealth utility

I'm guessing it's no longer really a grenade slot now the throwing knife is a part of it

Stealth armor and throwing knives to just play MGSV

Also shotgun pistol looks neat

Would I spend 1000 SC solely for a hellpod pattern? Yes

[dusty spruce]

I imagine this'll sell well, solely for the armors. Lotsa people prolly gonna try and be Catachan cosplayers

[wheat plank]

PLEAAASEEEE

I'm still saving up enough super credits but I need that drip

[tall stone]

Oh goody, the bot front should be easier to organize now.

We're down to four planets we can access.

[south temple]

ooughhh catachan time

[tight zephyr]

You guys ever have a moment in a mission that you think about for a long time after? Last night I single-handedly kept the bots on me while the rest of the team did the objectives relatively unmolested and wound up not dying the whole mission to boot.

I felt ten feet tall and invincible.

Stupid as the setting is, the game is very good at giving you moments like that.

[glacial light]

It's a low floor high ceiling game, if you do good you can definitely carry hard

[tight zephyr]

And when you’re firing on all cylinders, you can feel like a hero for just a second.

Then you remember that none of this is necessary in-universe and Super Earth only sends you in because it’s more cost-effective.

It makes me laugh every time. The joke is on me and I’m always really pleased with it when I spot it again.

[glacial light]

I think the devs have soft said on twitter that everything that happens in mission is canon

[tight zephyr]

Pfft. That’s pretty funny.

[wheat plank]

most missions I manage to rack up the most kills

[glacial light]

There's very much tiktoks of helldivers doing very questionable things on the battlefield and it's funny to think that that particular helldiver is doing that after being unfrozen and died like a mision later

[wheat plank]

I enjoy feeling like doomguy

[tight zephyr]

I had a mission the other day where I had over 250 kills and the next person had under 100.

Again, I felt very cool.

[honest acorn]

Thinking about that clip of someone landing their mission start hellpod inside one of those tiny death pits no wider than the hellpod and instantly dying

[tight zephyr]

I did that once.

[honest acorn]

It's funny every time

You drop and just see the skull

[wheat plank]

one time I dropped into some kinda like

crevice and had to lob a grenade to blast myself out of it

luckily I was running a good enough armour to not die so I stimmed and carried on

but it was funny to see myself clip through a solid wall

[tight zephyr]

One time I managed to drop myself straight down a bug hole.

[wheat plank]

did you destroy the bug hole at least?

[tight zephyr]

It destroyed the hole but also killed me.

[wheat plank]

then that's a good drop Helldiver

[tight zephyr]

I got a medal that just looks like the “you tried” meme.

[wheat plank]

also what's y'alls ships named?

mine's called the SES Lady of Iron

[tight zephyr]

SES Hammer of the People

[wheat plank]

🔥

waiting to see the SES Sickle of the People next lol

[ionic holly]

Spear of Service

[wheat plank]

I love any of the ships named "X of Family Values"

all I can ever think of is "Family guy ass ship"

[honest acorn]

SES Gauntlet of the Regime

[blissful sparrow]

SES Elected Representative of Family Values
purely becuase i couldn't find a longer name

[hearty pier]

SES Comptroller of Self Determination

[azure pewter]

Judge of judgement

But mines experimental so it’s the S.E.X. Judge of Judgement

[heady halo]

currently Whisper of Midnight

[heady halo]

its gonna have to have so many knives or do so much damage to be worth it vs impacts as an instant dps

[glacial light]

Ok but consider if you had like 36 knifes and can rapid fire them instead

Become Dio

Also if that knife is not retrievable i'd be disappointed

[stark ether]

the pride of pride

[heady halo]

honestly "one knife but its retrievable and hits like a teuck" would also rule

i wonder what kinda armour pen itl have

[alpine seal]

it'll probably be disposable given it'll more likely have to work with engineering kit

unless that can be its own neat synergy

[glacial light]

Maybe it'll be like 2-4 retrievable knives cause having 1 knife be on par with 4 grenades that knife would probably need strong single target damage

[tall stone]

Late for ship names, but I love mine

[cobalt patrol]

I remain proud of Prophet of Audacity

[tall stone]

SES Octagon of Family Values

[wheat plank]

So glad we got some family guys in the chat

[glacial light]

Pride of Pride, how'd you know I was gay

[hazy oriole]

Hammer of Dawn is mine

[wheat plank]

Gears of war fan I see

[hazy oriole]

I'm no expert but the Hammer of Dawn itself feels like such a Super Earth thing to make

[wheat plank]

They got an equivalent I believe

[tall stone]

Orbital Laser! 😄

[hazy oriole]

Oh it's more the sentiment behind it

An immensely powerful orbital weapon that nethertheless causes more problems than it solves

[glacial light]

And it still needs a helldiver to throw it

I think it'd be funny if we had a major order orbital that can glass a planet but we need like 6 billion stratagems thrown on the planet for it to not miss

[daring monolith]

SES Song of Twilight is mine

Gotta love poetic ship names

[tight zephyr]

Yeah this still sounds like the orbital laser.

[wheat plank]

If we fail do we accidentally blow up Mars or something lol

[barren iron]

Thats like, every single super destroyer

[barren iron]

Think my current name is the SES Harbinger of Democracy

Harbinger of Liberty would go hard actually

[stone bridge]

Oh were we doing ship names?

Mine is the SES Colossus of Dawn

[placid hamlet]

SES Princess of Family Values

[wheat plank]

Another Family guy

[pastel igloo]

Mine is SES Whisper of Twilight

[oblique storm]

SES STALLION OF STEEL

also this mf works fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTk6xPCWQgU

[trail nymph]

SES Halo of Glory

[royal lantern]

SES Will of War, as an allusion to one of the Judge's monologues in Blood Meridian and Sundowner in MGR by extension

Both of those guys would love Super Earth

[quick crown]

SES Princess of Pride

[tall stone]

Oh, it's another Bot MO. And to my disappointment but unfortunately not my surprise....

3 planets. That's all we have to take.

We just took 4 in the Bug MO.

And yet I have this nagging feeling that we're going to crash and burn.

[tight zephyr]

I live on the bot front, so I’m looking forward to the attempt.

But… yeah…

[keen zinc]

Old name was better

My ships name is the SES Claw of Law

[hexed steeple]

executor of the people 😎

[wheat plank]

"Just like the good old days after Malevelon Creek!"

[wheat plank]

Things are looking a little more up

[tall stone]

That win time is... Not good.

[wheat plank]

Not in the slightest but I mean

I'll take any upward tick

If the bugstompers ever had any stones we'd have a way better outlook

Like they're not even gonna take Crimsica

[tight zephyr]

I wish there was a way to just encourage people to get away from the bugs. The bots aren’t harder than the bugs, you just have to use different tools and different approaches. You have to fight both or you’re limiting yourself.

[wheat plank]

Yeah literally

More than limiting yourself, you limit Super Earth

Also I've been giving the armour penetrating liberator a shot and it isn't all that bad on the bot front

[tight zephyr]

I found it to be sort of underwhelming, but it’s not bad.

I ran the Dominator for a while and I ended up not liking it.

But some swear by it! That kind of thing is part of why I find this game to be so much fun, you get a lot of different load outs.

[tidal wing]

the Dominator is best for close range engagements because the travel time of the projectiles makes long-range shots tricky

even mid-range is a bit dicy

but it fucking kicks

[tight zephyr]

Its recoil was a bit too much for me and it always felt like I was fighting to get it on-target. That was the problem I had.

Since then I’ve found the Pummeler and a ballistic shield to be my bread and butter can opener.

[wheat plank]

I do agree that it's a lot more ammo hungry than the SMG I was running before it

[tight zephyr]

The Defender?

I also recommend the Senator. I swear by it.

[wheat plank]

Yeah the Defender

The Senator hasn't left my loadout since I got it

And it never will

[glacial light]

Dominator is gonna be so nice with the new warbond armor that increases handling, also melee buff is welcomed for really close quarters

[wheat plank]

Definitely

I love trying to rack up melee kills

[glacial light]

The possibility that the throwing knife won't be affected by the new armor is real depending on how it's handled, regardless it should work in a thematic sense

Throw harder = more hurt

[quick plinth]

so patch today?

[tall stone]

Super samples at 6?!

[quick plinth]

huh?

[glacial light]

Super samples at diff 6? Ok so who's been spying on me and knows 6 is my favorite diff

[quick plinth]

wait where'dja find this?

[tall stone]

Says it on what you posted

[glacial light]

3rd panel on the left of that meme

[tall stone]

Also looking forward to others seeing supply lines

[quick plinth]

ah

im blind

so it its today right?

[heady halo]

second week so probably next week

[honest acorn]

13th yeah

[glacial light]

Can't wait for all the camo hellpods

It's gonna be extra fun on jungle planets when my teammates mistakes me for an enemy and hellpods me

[quick plinth]

aw man I actualkly got excited

[hazy oriole]

only a few more days dw

[quick plinth]

its exam month every day rn feels like a 100 years

[hazy oriole]

oh i am so sorry, good luck

[modest fiber]

<@&1206091872716595200> need to farm the money, so am once again requesting dudes

[honest acorn]

I can be on in a few minutes

[shy prairie]

Spear fix not directly mentioned 😂

[quartz cloak]

I'm a single-issue Helldiver, and my issue is 'Spear'

[glacial light]

Spear is fun on bugs

And bots

[supple siren]

I wouldn't mind if it blew a larger chunk outta Bile Titans

[glacial light]

Same

[unreal merlin]

It's anywhere from fine to excellent, assuming you can actually lock on to a target.

Being able to delete automaton assemblers from 200m away and move on with your life is amazing.

[quartz cloak]

Yeah, if it was consistent it would be absolutely brilliant

But having a staring contest with a cannon turret is very annoying, as the turret tends to win that one

[quick plinth]

gunships dont last a second though

its the only target where nothing is going to obstruct ur view of it

[quartz cloak]

True, we don't have a Stinger so the Spear will do

[glacial light]

I like the feel of the Spear even if RR seems to do the same job but usually better

I think the breakpoints Spear meets that RR doesn't is on cannon towers, 1 shot with spear and 2 shots to vent with RR. And RR needs proper angles for fabs

And hulks, RR can target a weakpoint on a hulk while spear hits top of it's body or arms which is iffy

Just give Spear a little buff since it has less ammo than RR and slower time to fire alongside the lockon fix

As a treat

[quartz cloak]

So it can reliably one-shot things, yes.

I'd also argue it should kill tanks better, but honestly tanks are so laughably easy to kill with Eagle strategems that it's not even necessary

[honest acorn]

I think with the lockon fix it’ll be perfectly good honestly

[quartz cloak]

I agree

Partially because it will allow you to actually do some trickshot nonsense like angling it to hit Hulk eyes

Instead of having to fight the lock and firing the second it's ready

Because said lock might just decide to take the day off afterwards

[unreal merlin]

If you don't have to spend 30+ seconds scooting side to side trying to find the sweet spot that lets you lock ANYTHING AT ALL, it'll be great.

[quartz cloak]

Like, I've had missions where the Spear decided to work perfectly for some reason and those were so much fun

[glacial light]

My big gripe. 2 impacts to the top of a turret can kill a tank. But Spear, based on an IRL AT weapon that can disable a tank specifically by targeting the turret where the armor is weakest but in HD2 it sometimes takes 2 shots

[honest acorn]

And it’ll be possible to fire much faster which is nice

[quartz cloak]

Because it doesn't do Actual Top attack

it sort of launches up but then takes the most direct path

And here's the thing, it can one-shot a tank to the turret, if it hits the top at a near-perpendicular angle which
It tends not to

[glacial light]

My hot take is it should have 2 lock-on tiers. The 1st tier is the regular lockon how it works now but fixed of course, and 2nd tier takes a few seconds more but the projectile will try to take the most direct path to a weakspot it's pointed at. So like straight on to eyes for hulks, top for bile titans, top for cannoner towers.

Probably not worth to implement to AH to considering the current lock-on is iffy as is and they've been at it for a while

[unreal merlin]

Suggestion: alternate fire mode like other weapons have that alter the flight profile.

[quartz cloak]

Just get it to Good Enough so players can get work done

[glacial light]

Or at least a dumb fire option

[unreal merlin]

e.g. shallow and high angle

[quartz cloak]

Like the real Jav?

[glacial light]

Better than what I suggested, even got firing mode menu to switch between

A random idea, it's in universe for Super Earth not to do this, but night vision scope toggle option would be neat

[tight zephyr]

I had a breaker blow in my house right as a bot drop happened and a half-dozen Hulks dropped from a single ship.

Just gonna count that as a blessing in disguise.

[glacial light]

Joel's getting serious, automatons are sabotaging US infrastructure

[tight zephyr]

It doesn't need the help.

Somehow I'm the only person in this house who knows:

1. Where the breaker box is.

2. How to reset a breaker.

[glacial light]

Isnt it like flip a switch down then up?

Unless you're using airplane circuit breakers in a house in which cause you just push in if they pop out

[strange vine]

Yeah cause it ends up hitting the body of the tank instead of the turret

Since its locking onto the center of the chassis it ends up hitting it instead of the turret which has a lower hp pool

[tight zephyr]

Yeah. You just turn it all the way off, then flip it back on.

[glacial light]

I like airplane circruit breakers, the pop out if the fuse breaks and you just push them back in

If it pops out right as you push it in then you got a problem

[unreal merlin]

If one keeps popping and you hold it in, it makes the problem component glow!

[glacial light]

This is not OSHA approved

Also someone who's no longer at the company has tried that

[supple siren]

The ol' "Landlord taped my fusebox shut" manuever

[glacial light]

He used a plastic bit from who knows where to push a breaker switch in and keep it in so power didn't go out while he was working in the plane and could figure it out instead of like, bringing a flashlight.

He burnt ot a bunch of expensive lightbulbs

Each lightbulb is like $9 and a small plane has thousands and many just burnt out

[unreal merlin]

I witnessed it myself, someone kept pushing it back in when it popped and then decided to hold it in while ground power was applied. I noticed a flash of white in my peripheral vision and when I looked there was an electrical fire in the panel.

:)

[tight zephyr]

Turns out the breaker is blowing because my wife’s using a space heater and my new GPU has juuuuuust enough draw to tip it over.

[tight zephyr]

Railgun unsafe mode my beloved.

[pastel igloo]

love doing some missions in Helldivers

usually only do a few if i am playing alone but it's so fun

bots my beloved

still amazes me how well the game inspires that feeling of "humanity hell yeah" while also being very good satire of being a unthinking soldier working for a comically evil fascist government

[pastel igloo]

kinda sucks we can't use more than one mech from what i can tell

i want to waste two of my slots on exosuits and i should have the super earth given right to do so

they honestly aren't even particularly that good from what i can tell but i like mechs so i want to double up

wait i think i might be wrong

hmm i don't seem to be able to pick more than one though

[blissful sparrow]

someone mentioned a few days ago that its buggy and you can only select 2 mechs in the first slots or something like that

[pastel igloo]

that's weird

[cobalt patrol]

Apparnetly it's a perfomance issue?

there's something in the engine that makes Too Many Vehicles a bad thing

[blissful sparrow]

maybe they should spawn 3 less Bot tanks then

[cobalt patrol]

Ī vbery much doubt tanks and mechs are the same thing in the code base

i suspect Vehicles is very much a player facing specific designation

[pastel igloo]

airburst rockets good

yeah airbursts fuck

doing helldive SOS rn and i am definitely going to bring more airbursts

[strange vine]

Glad people are getting more airburst pilled

[glacial light]

Airburst so good

Low CD and basically kills every non heavy bug in a breach

You see breach? Throw airburst and ignore it

[pastel igloo]

nice, got kicked

i don't like playing bugs much but it still fucks for automatons

pretty game

[pastel igloo]

damn

got killed in the ship

no extraction for me 😔

[glacial light]

That should not be a thing really

I feel like Helldivers should be just immune to damage once in the dropship or be vulnerable be also allowed to leave at any moment or even just go first person and shoot out the rear hatch

[pastel igloo]

jumped into the ship and got blasted by a Hulk

[glossy horizon]

I thought they patched that out? I remember that getting killed in the evac was quite common, but I can't think of it happening in the last month or so

[glacial light]

Nope I think that's still a thing as of a few weeks ago unless it's bugged

[tight zephyr]

Last night someone stole my railgun, promptly overcharged and exploded.

I'm still thinking about that. Why'd he do that?

[blissful sparrow]

didn't read the user manual

[glacial light]

Wasn't it possible to survive the railgun unsafe mode exploding if you like had a shield pack, wore the heaviest armor, and stim'd?

[hazy oriole]

Shield pack alone will save you on 7

[honest acorn]

I think shield pack can yeah

[glacial light]

Does the railgun exploding only hurt you or has a small AoE?

[supple siren]

Also wait why does the shield pack even work against an explosion from inside

[glacial light]

Good point, I petition to make the shield pack make the railgun explosion even deadlier to everyone because it's containing the explosion

[shrewd tiger]

I think it doesn't but heavy armor, blast resistance, and Democracy Protects can

[supple siren]

Blast Resist still feels like more than 50% reduction in damage but I shall not complain, really lets you build momentum off a Rocket Dev barrage

[glossy horizon]

I think because currently it's only availiable on heavy armor? So you're already getting good damage resistance

[supple siren]

There's light armor too

Makes ya look like a Scout Trooper

[glossy horizon]

In the timed shop? Never seen that, but that's a big consideration to spend super creds

I got the padded light armor for bugs and it's super neat

[sour whale]

There’s been a blast resistant light armor in the supercreds shop, yeah

[tight zephyr]

Haha yes! HAHA! YES!

[honest acorn]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone wanna shoot some robits?

[tall stone]

Give me a bit to finish this Hades run and sure!

[honest acorn]

Sounds good

[heady halo]

i need caffiene but once aquired i can chute some rubots

[tight zephyr]

I'm just coming out of a mission.

A7EE31256A65C913

[glacial light]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/qPqC9tLwYP

Imagine cluster mines

EMS mines do sound sick though

[tight zephyr]

I wouldn't mind more EMS stuff.

[naive dragon]

500kg mine

[tight zephyr]

That was the anti-tank mine we didn't get, I bet.

[glacial light]

Same comments I saw someone mention wanting an autocannon emplacement

[tight zephyr]

The orbital minefield would be funny.

[honest acorn]

I need the friend code not the account code

[tight zephyr]

9252-7012

Ugh, it's still doing the thing where it won't let me accept friend requests.

Can you send me yours?

[honest acorn]

Yeah

6122-4023

[blissful sparrow]

yeah i want the HD1 Cannon emplacement back

[glacial light]

Orbital minecraft just turns on a random stratagem beacon when stepped on

[quick crown]

"380 coming in watch your distance"

[steady flame]

Is that bottom right one a bouncing betty?

[glossy horizon]

Oh is that guy with the mortars cooking again?

[tight zephyr]

<@&1206091872716595200> 8665-4899 Let's go play in the snow.

[deft shell]

The snow is fun!

[glacial light]

You use recoiless rifle weapon because it's an excellent AT weapon

I use Recoiless Rifle cause the back blast kicks up snow, we are not the same

[pastel igloo]

i am now an airburst rocket stan

it will kill something regardless of where you shoot

i like that a lot

[wheat plank]

I really should've tried it on Meridia

[pastel igloo]

something will die

is it the enemy, is it you, maybe a teammate, who knows

but death will occur

[honest acorn]

It didn’t work so well for me on the special map

Enemies spawned in too close and it’d blow up the drills

[wheat plank]

Fair, I was mostly thinking of the extract segment

Anything that can clear those flocks out a little faster

[honest acorn]

Oh yeah it helps there but does almost nothing to get you there

[hallow gorge]

I want a laser emplacement. Just push the button once and it never stops firing

[tight zephyr]

Solo missions are fun if you play it like it's Metal Gear Solid V.

And also lower the difficulty a bit.

[wind arrow]

yeah i often do diff 4 when solo, it's pretty chill

[tall stone]

Low difficulty solo is fun, ye

[strange vine]

https://invadersfromplanet.space/helldivers-2/

some interesting names in here
Eruptor's alt name was the JAR Phoenix
and its a 20mm gun
Autocannon fires "20mm APHET" ammo
EAT is 75mm HEAT warhead, while RR is 85mm
GL fires 40mm HE, while grenade pistol fires 40mm HEAT
Liberator fires 5.5x50mm bullets, base is full metal jacket, penetrator is penetrator, concussive is explosive. Tenderizer also fires the same
Adjudicator fires 8x60mm FMJ while reg MG fires 8x60mm AP
Dilligence fires 9x70mm FMJ, countersniper fires 9x70mm high velocity
Defender and Pummeler fire 12x25mm FMJ and stun respectively
Senator fires 13x40mm FMJ
Redeemer and Peacemaker fire 9x20 FMJ and Hollow Point respectively
Knight fires 9x20mm soft metal jacket
Dominator's gyrojets are 15x100mm
punisher series and break action are 10 gauge, breakers are 12 gauge
incendiary's variant are called "liberty fire"
HMG and AMR fire 12x100mm BCHP and EIT respectively
airburst RL fires 85mm rockets

also

but these all have the same stats (between the same type) atm

so placeholder

eg

theres also a ton of bullet types that arent being used too

and the other calibers are the same

also Railcannon is the only orbital with 10 AP (direct hit)

so theoretically you could toss a bunch at a gunship fab to kill it

[honest acorn]

I kinda wonder if some of these are like debug testers haha

[strange vine]

given hellbomb explosion is 10 AP

[honest acorn]

Since its like "normal pistol version of every kind of bullet" it looks like

Nice to get calibers for a bunch of them though there's not a ton of surprises there I think

Aside from BCHP for the HMG? That seems so weird

[strange vine]

also uh, for the people who think the arc resist armor will remain niche or useless...

[honest acorn]

Oh boy

[strange vine]

so a hellbomb guarantees a kill on a gunship fab and it does 4000 damage

while the railcannon does 2000 damage

theoretically, you need 2 railcannons to kill a gunship fab

would need testing

[honest acorn]

Huh will it lock them?

I've never tried

But anything to handle the menace of gunship factories haha

[strange vine]

no idea, but worst case assuming no enemies nearby itll still shoot the stratagem ball, so just need to throw it with the fab between the ball and the SD

also for arc lovers...

(still same values so placeholder)

[honest acorn]

I was wondering if they'd bring back the old MK system

[upbeat vector]

I kinda hope they do, the upgrades were fun

[blissful sparrow]

The Railcannon will lock onto the nearest gunship if its in range. Which, considering the gunship fab spawns them, might make it a bit inconsisntent

[tight zephyr]

Yeah. I think I might start doing these solo runs on lower difficulty to help train myself to get away from the mindset that I have to fight every single bot on the map.

Learning how to do the objectives and then run away sounds like a good skill to have to avoid ending up in the Infinite Berserker Vortex.

[cobalt patrol]

Oh, grief, yeah you do not fight everythign on the map esp on like sevens or stuff

[tight zephyr]

It’s a good way to completely tank a mission that was going smoothly.

[tall stone]

Who chooses to have a Kill Hunters mission during a bot MO?!

[tight zephyr]

It's at least a pittance of Hunters.

[tight zephyr]

I swear my friend is cursed. I haven't seen a single gunship in like two days. The instant I play with him, it's two double tower airbases.

This kind of thing always happens.

[honest acorn]

Ah yeah the classic "we're not giving you all the side objectives" setup

They're so brutal

[tight zephyr]

Airbases are always the NUMBER ONE PRIORITY whenever I get on a map with them.

The second I see a gunship, I am all about killing that airbase.

I don't want that shit in my life, man.

[tall stone]

Oh hey, I got a airbase and detector tower clump yesterday!

[tight zephyr]

I’d rather have that than four airbase towers.

[forest crater]

I plan to play HD2 again after a very long hiatus of not playing it when the big huge patch releases...

[tall stone]

Woo!

[unreal merlin]

Remember to bring med/light infiltrator armor, the detection radius reduction is huge value and you can use map markers proactively to scout where enemies and patrols are from afar

[lethal badger]

Are illuminate in yet

[honest acorn]

no

[lethal badger]

Oh

I’ll have time to practice with my new keyboard then!

[forest crater]

I wonder if the big huge patch will bring the Illuminate

[trail nymph]

No it’s just a balance and fixes patch

[forest crater]

And also the new Warbond

I know that for sure

[strange vine]

a lot of illuminate stuff is already in the files and we're in the point of the datamined stuff that is very close to the illuminate intro stuff, so im expecting it soon

with the patch having a lot of hidden stuff

[heady halo]

honestly id expect it to be a big pushed hyped update cycle

rather than a stealth drop

[reef raven]

can confirm I love this armor type for those reasons; I've 'mapped' route through extraction from one side of the map to the other with minimal skirmish thanks to being able to ping pathways between enemy patrols

plus there's something to be said about the detection radius reduction and the ability to flank enemies already focused on your allies with it.

It made for a surprisingly decent armor to use against the bugs at times with a flamethrower of all thing???

[supple siren]

My friends hate using the map in terms of enemy tracking and it makes me crazy

It's so fast and efficient

[reef raven]

YES

[supple siren]

and neat

[reef raven]

as my main trick would be to flank to flame enemies with less risk of accidently clipping my allies with the fire while also laying down a firewall making it harder for enemies to progress toward allies. Combined with the shield generator it's also decently durable

(against bot I tend to instead fall back on the Antimateriel rifle for that massive zoom range however)

[unreal merlin]

I REALLY like it when we're at the end of a mission trekking across the map and I get to be in the lead, using proactive map pings to scout enemy patrols and literally be a pathfinder for the team to avoid all the dangers

That stuff makes me feel so good and cool

And really just the entire job of being the "situational awareness" guy who identifies where enemies are coming from and directing the squad to prepare for flanks

[tight zephyr]

I’m not sure what to call the niche I’ve fallen into. I focus on locking down heavies like Devastators and Berserkers and to a lesser extent killing Hulks and Tanks.

I’m almost useless against a Factory Strider or Bile Titan though.

[unreal merlin]

You're in railgun brain, yeah? I'm the same, my focus is

• killing medium enemies (devastators, brood commanders, spewers)
• controlling small enemies (especially flankers)
• killing large enemies as necessary (hulks > bile titans > chargers > tanks)
  Railgun kills anything medium, primary weapon of choice for small stuff (Pummeler, breaker incendiary, liberator, etc), and stuns + railgun for hulks/chargers or stratagems for others (orbital precision, 500kg)

My regular group has someone who's very into using RR and I often carry an ammo backpack for them to teamload

At least with that person we have a very good unspoken synergy and can tag team super well without much discussion or delay

Like how one time they were using a flamethrower so to handle a large bug breach I used my Pummeler to staggerlock the whole front line so they could roast everything

[pastel igloo]

I usually leave heavy units to my teammates

If there is a hulk i sprint the other way

[supple siren]

Stun Grenade+AntiMat Rifle has made hulks a little sad, that thing handles SO MUCH

[pastel igloo]

I'm a high explosive and Airburst rockets kinda girl myself nowadays

Everything but the heavies will die

[supple siren]

I can't decide on a Bot Primary, bounce between a few

[pastel igloo]

That's a Freyja guarantee

Big fan of the dominator

Sickle is also based

[supple siren]

Sickle, Dominator, Plasma Punisher, Scorcher..

[unreal merlin]

Liberator, Pummeler/Defender, Sickle, and Scorcher are all very generally good vs bots. The shotguns are too, both breaker and punisher variants

[supple siren]

That Strider buff making them take more than 2 scorcher shots sometimes, criminal

[unreal merlin]

To be fair it DID trivialize them so I understand why

[supple siren]

And it makes sense for shaped plating to help handle explosives but c'maaahn

[reef raven]

.... please tell me that I'm eeing wrong and that we didn't just unlock Wasat for the major order and there isn't really only 1554 helldivers on the planet to try to finish the final major objective of our major order

okay that must be a mistake because the Ymir sector where Wasat is reports 43k helldivers
Okay, that feel more like it

that's really really weird that the world itself only report about 1k players

[turbid tapir]

So uh
is the Dominator just good or what
I'm enjoying me my not-bolter and how it staggers devastators when it doesn't outright headshot them

Not great against bugs though, can't handle the sheer volume of them it seems.

[tall stone]

If we just conquered, people are finishing and moving.

[modest fiber]

the Dominator is great, while true it doesn't one shot devs it sounds powerful and has kick making you feel the power and it can one tap normal bots to the chest (world eaters take more but those are world eaters) just remember to have a secondary with more ammo and to compensate for its downside of a low turn rate.. sorry for the long rant but needed a distraction from stuff and i do love this weapon c:

[modest fiber]

if you want armour pen on bugs the lib penetrate is a nice compromise,it still gives an option to be semi effective on hordes but mostly take high rpm weapons to mow them down.. just make sure to ask if anyone has anything against more armoured bugs, tho going as the teams demo unit ain't bad either

[cobalt patrol]

Ironically i prefer it the other way around - i use the Dominator into bugs very happily, because i dont need crowd clear for bugs (Flamethrower main), but it's fantastic clean up tool.

into bots i find it too inflexible and prefer the Plasma punisher

[forest crater]

I hope we get more rounds reload weapons

Like semi-auto shotguns and the like

[modest fiber]

we do have few of those, but i think the original had a lever action rifle, would like one of those for sure

[forest crater]

Ooo yeah lever action for sure

Not for any gameplay reasons

Lever actions are just cool imo lol

[hot meadow]

It is great and I love using it on bots, but like you said I think it is real bad on bugs

[forest crater]

Wh

What is the bread reaction for-

[unreal merlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/556756134367592481/809887540927922266/WHYYYY.mp4?ex=6667658c&is=6666140c&hm=944f9914cfb978f6eaa17ceeaee71f53c9e5a8c21de6777db318c3fff74f17ef&

Here's what I want

[stark ether]

https://tenor.com/view/mighty-need-invader-zim-shouting-screaming-scared-gif-17581419

[last mauve]

the automatons have more and more devilish strategies by the day

[keen zinc]

When's the patch

[unreal merlin]

Thursday probably.

[quick crown]

13th

[trail nymph]

Confirmed Thursday from the discord