Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[hot meadow]

so many tanks

[civic apex]

ye

[verbal summit]

It's so fucking cool though

My friends made me play it with them on difficulty 9

It was so cool

[cobalt patrol]

if you bring at least two sets of mortar tuirrets (Ems & Explosive), and the rest of your team is running quasar/autocannons etc

it's very handlable even on diff 9

we three-manned it becuase our fourth got bugged out and wouldnt respawn

[stone bridge]

yeah mortars seem like they go crazy

on that mission

[alpine seal]

i've acquired 100 super samples, thus putting a bookend to having the cap on everything there currently is in the game (aside from leveling)

now time to log off and touch grass until the warbond is out

which is really just one day but

[barren reef]

I still need a few hundred super credits. I was getting close to the medal cap so I unlocked all the SC in the warbonds but I'm still short.

[verbal summit]

I still haven't maxed out my destroyer

And I'm too poor to buy any of the warbonds too

Idk how yall do it

[stoic lotus]

I'm at about 500 SC and I don't have steel veterans

[barren reef]

I'm shy 150odd rare samples to max my destroyer

[verbal summit]

I guess it might help to play on lower difficulties to collect sc

[stoic lotus]

my destroyer is like 80% there I think

[verbal summit]

Same

I have 490somrthing

[stoic lotus]

yeah I just occasionally run some diff 1s and just groblin around collecting all the POI loot

it's not that interesting

there are faster ways but they're a bit exploit-y

[verbal summit]

Ah

I was gonna see if I could go with my frens on difficulties like 5-6

They usually take me to 7-9

[unreal merlin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1208390071074562139/1214936392677990481/image.png?ex=661fd6b0&is=660d61b0&hm=be2ef71efd54da79df5e71d14c49919014456e08d2e2247db564f18504e78fd7&
🤔

[verbal summit]

Which is a bit out of my comfort zone but by now 7 has become my comfort zone lol

[verbal summit]

What thee

[stoic lotus]

[verbal summit]

Is that an exploity way??

[stoic lotus]

how on earth did you get 110 sc in one go lol

[unreal merlin]

This happened several weeks ago and none of us know why it happened.

[verbal summit]

Lol

Divine gift or something

[alpine seal]

no that's a documented occurrence

[junior badge]

Iirc, there's a low chance that one stack is a 100sc stack.

[stoic lotus]

damn

[alpine seal]

you can very very rarely get the super credit jackpot of 100 on a pickup

i've seen it three times in 100 hours

[junior badge]

So you'd found one of those and a regular 10 sc stack.

[stoic lotus]

that's crazy

[stone bridge]

that goes wild

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to play in about 15?

[stoic lotus]

sure

[oblique hazel]

I can hop in

[stone bridge]

sweet

[unkempt river]

dies

[cobalt patrol]

I'll be around @stone bridge

[stone bridge]

[stone bridge]

sweet

[meager saffron]

👁️

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> do we wanna make a second group?

[merry cosmos]

😔

[civic apex]

DID THEY ACTUALY DO IT ?

[merry cosmos]

Is this a joke?

[civic apex]

idk

just saw it on twitter, but idk

[merry cosmos]

I hope they did

[civic apex]

https://fxtwitter.com/Erivlt/status/1777732002042753283

all ive got is this to go off of

[merry cosmos]

Looking closer that lookes edited

[civic apex]

yeahhhh mabye

[orchid pulsar]

we can dream, we can dream

[merry cosmos]

If it becomes real I can't wait to see the winning about it

[civic apex]

yeah

Id love a pride cape

[ionic holly]

Sadly just an edited version of the super citizen cape

[merry cosmos]

Knew it

[civic apex]

would be good tho

oh well

[orchid pulsar]

i guess we wait til pride month

[merry cosmos]

June warbond

[civic apex]

nah just hand them out to everyone free

no choice to buy

rile up the chuds reall good

[merry cosmos]

June warbond be like

[civic apex]

more diverse drop troopers

fellas is it gay to call in reinforcements?

your squadmate is literally going down on you

[merry cosmos]

...sis

What the fuck

Did you just say?

[civic apex]

lol

[civic apex]

https://youtu.be/wnrlSsNt1QM

[merry cosmos]

I don't think I've ever been more confused

Also your pfp is a gnome?

[civic apex]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

its literally in my name

so yes

[merry cosmos]

I am illiterate

[civic apex]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[hot meadow]

I just want to check whether you mean Evac citizens or the other new tower defense one

[cobalt patrol]

There are 32 kinds

3*

not 32, lol

[hot meadow]

Yeah cause I cannot do the evac citizens one at all

Just utterly overwhelmed by the number of tanks

[mortal wing]

Those are silly missions

[orchid pulsar]

<@&1206091872716595200> whos droppin to dive

[sharp crater]

I can join up

[hexed steeple]

yeag

[cobalt patrol]

I will be back in a bit

[cobalt patrol]

@jolly spire i'm afk currnetly

[jolly spire]

o7

[dusk agate]

https://www.tumblr.com/acorn-scorn/746420588174802944/the-helldivers-2-experience?source=share

[sinful bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBWWW0bvpHk GAS

[stoic lotus]

they took the audio right from his house flipper stream lol

did someone make a VR game purely for the sake of this bit

[sinful bay]

I have no doubt in my heart they would do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jd3BCqXFmE

[stoic lotus]

his genie noises are top tier

[sinful bay]

https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1776398416819724799 oh hey they talk about here why they don't want to talk about LGBT+ stuff
The hatepseech and death treats the devs and staff would receive would tank their morale basically and make them feel like shit

Grummz (@Grummz) on X

Were we mislead? @helldivers2 was lauded for their anti-politics stance by all of us.

Now Helldiver's Community Manager clarified why they banned people asking for LGBT capes:

It wasn't for politics, it was to protect the devs and from "waves of hatespeech which our staff was…

Twitter · Apr 5, 2024, 11:56 PM

[south temple]

i mean yeah that makes sense

[candid finch]

Isn't Grummz the asshole who recently tried to cause them troubles?

Like this is a link to the person providing the hate speech

[south temple]

yeah grummz is a massive piece of shit

[civic apex]

yeah i wouldnt believe grummz

[pastel igloo]

That is what i heard as well, though i haven't interacted with Grummz in any capacity

[candid finch]

Let's not post Grummz in the future we don't need to give them views or interactions. Let them go back to obscurity and failure where they belong.

[stone bridge]

Agreed

[pastel igloo]

In other news

How is the defense going

How badly are we losing

[south temple]

probably not amazing

when i was on earlier every wave was 2-3 tanks and 10000 devastators it was insane

[cobalt patrol]

One succseful defence so far

But the bots have re-attacked it

and are hititng multiple other planets

Several defends have actually failed looking at it

[pastel igloo]

Yep

As expected

Defense ordsrs fucking suck

[unkempt river]

ROBORTS BACK. >:(
KILL.

[pastel igloo]

It's the ones we will ALWAYS have the highest chance of failing

[pastel igloo]

🤣

[pastel igloo]

As i understand it the way liberation works means defending more than one place becomes exponentially more difficult the more places you are working with

[stone bridge]

We cleaned up a 9 earlier that was fun

The high priority evac missions are great carnage

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, that defend was good

er, 9

minus some accidents at extract ;.;

One was my fault

one was pelican one catching eagle 1's 500kg

and delivering it to us.

[stone bridge]

Pelican Express

[cobalt patrol]

I would like to get off Mr Pelican;'s Wild Ride\

(to hell)

[short rune]

Man, the Automatons are hard to destroy.

[hexed steeple]

the new defense missions are fun

they finally made defense fun lets go

[short rune]

Sounds great. I will give it a shot later.

The other defence missions were uh...

Me camping behind the towers because of the hulk and warlord spam

[unkempt river]

Out of curiosity, what loadout do you use?

[short rune]

Depends. Often LMG and personal shield. Or jump-pack, sniper and railgun.

On lower levels I bring RPGs to kill dropships

[unkempt river]

Gotcha. I'd recommend swapping your support to Autocannon, Quasar Cannon, or EATs. They have a MUCH lower ttk and can help chew through enemies quick.

What's your primary, secondary, and armor setup like?

[short rune]

Medium engineer, sniper rifle, automatic pistol

[unkempt river]

Diligence primary?

[short rune]

Ye

It's not optimal but I hope they add a proper sniper at some point

[unkempt river]

Gotcha. Do you have access to the Slugger or the Sickle?

[short rune]

I didn't play after the new warbond was added

I have the scythe but it is uh...

[unkempt river]

Ah, Sickle is not the Scythe.

[short rune]

Yes

Scythe is just the closest weapon I have to the sickle.

But Scythe isnt good

[unkempt river]

Yeah, Scythe needs a buff, I think

[short rune]

I wish they would buff the AMR a bit

Railgun is nice but it lacks a scope

[unkempt river]

The sickle is actually around the liberator, imo

[short rune]

Liberator is better

[unkempt river]

Than the Scythe? Yes. Than the Sickle? Debatable

[stone bridge]

They just buffed the AMR this patch, it was always extremely good into bots and now its dynamite

[short rune]

Ah, neat!

[stoic lotus]

people def sleep on the liberator

I quite like it for bugs

[short rune]

Then I go back to AMR and Jumppack

[unkempt river]

Consider utilizing the Ballistic Shield as well. New patch makes it GOATed with the sauce (spilled oil)

Especially paired with the BIG IRON (Senator)

[short rune]

Ballistic shield is still only useful for projectiles. Yes?

[unkempt river]

ohohoho

[cobalt patrol]

Diligence is good into bots

[unkempt river]

It now tanks Cannon Turret Shots

[cobalt patrol]

you just have to land headshots with it

[short rune]

I used to play ballistic with SMG

But I found it too weird since it didn't work all of the time

[cobalt patrol]

I've been strongly tempted by the upgraded ballistic shield + eats and the smg just to go FUCK YOU STUPID HEAVY DEVS

[unkempt river]

And rockets and just about anything that doesn't have chainsaw arms

[cobalt patrol]

Lo ok, anything that's not a heavy dev i can wreck very easily.

[unkempt river]

Zombie, you seem like if you were any Monster Hunter Monster, you'd be a Pukei Pukei

idk why

Anyways, yeah, balistic shield is now very very good

[short rune]

Is the Liberator-Guarddog good by now?

[unkempt river]

You also no longer drop it when you get hit with something that ragdolls you

ehhh? Like, ammo problems are better, but Dogs into bots is still a losing prop, imo

[short rune]

Fair enough

[cobalt patrol]

I'm much more of a Nergigante if you go by my playstyle >.>

[unkempt river]

Sure, but attitude and style-wise

[short rune]

I am a stun-frog.

[cobalt patrol]

Psychopathic relentless aggression? 😛

[unkempt river]

Just a happy lil' [person] until someone pisses you off

[short rune]

Squishy but hits like a bus.

[stoic lotus]

nergigante is just a little guy you can stagger lock him for ages without a lot of trouble

he likes to have a big temper tantrum when you tip him over

[short rune]

I'm also sleeping too much on airstrikes probably

[cobalt patrol]

I'm a big fan of 500kg

lots of people like normal airstrike into bots

[unkempt river]

And standard

[cobalt patrol]

They're wrong, for the record 😛

[unkempt river]

And uh

[cobalt patrol]

500kg is all you need

[unkempt river]

Cluster is ok for the littles

Not so for the heavies

[cobalt patrol]

Unless you're @stone bridge in which case you need cluster bombs to counter-teamkill penguin

[unkempt river]

Rockets are ok, but I don't personally run them (throw armor + sickle + senator + quasar + supplies + airstrike + orbital rail gives me plenty of power)

[cobalt patrol]

tbh, i think orbital railcannon and rockets are a mistake generally

anything they can do 500kg or precision orbital strike can do

and often do better

The only thing they offer is reliablity, which can be compesnated for by skill

[unkempt river]

OrbRail is good for clearing things around a corner or with a quick-toss.

It also has a shorter call in, meaning it's got a better chance of hitting the enemy before it hits me

And also for Turrets

[short rune]

I like all sorts of airstrike. But 500 KG is great. Especially when you unlocked double capacity on Eagle Fighters

[unkempt river]

Cause getting a PStrike on a turret is V hard ime without getting to where impacts could kill it instead

[short rune]

Are people still bringing as many mortar turrets?

[cobalt patrol]

Mortar the explosive is only really good in defence or if you also bring EMS and warn your teamamates

and even the nyou have to postion it v. carefully so bots dont just blow it to pieces

EMS turret remains an all star

[unkempt river]

Nah. There's utility to them on missions where you have to hold a point and even then, I only recommend EMS

[blissful sparrow]

i bring EMS mortar if i'm too lazy to throw my own EMS around

[unkempt river]

Bots have gotten a lot better at shooting the mortars

[short rune]

I tend to covertly snipe their turrets when they are placed nearby me. They teamkill me whenever I am on an elevated position.

[blissful sparrow]

EMS Mortar + EMS Strike + Stun grenades
Lockdown for everyone

[unkempt river]

lol

I'm addicted to Impacts, imo

Can't give them up, sadly

[short rune]

Napalm my beloved

[cobalt patrol]

Impacts are very good if you're not running autocannon

very redudant with autocannon, and i suspect the grneade pistol may also make them somewhat reuddant

stuns are incredible as a gtfo button/enabler of bullshittery

[short rune]

Are Teslas also changed now? Or are they still the same?

[unkempt river]

I will be so excited if it does, tbh

[cobalt patrol]

at this point impacts are mostly to clear bug holes

Only reason i run them into bugs is in fact, to clear bug holes

[unkempt river]

Towers are widely the same, slightly more reliable. The Arc Thrower got a whole rework, less damage, moar stagger, 1s charge time all the time, etc etc.

The biggest change is that divers got access to 95% arc resist armor

[short rune]

Ah, less damage. It was nice as long it lasted

[unkempt river]

Nah, the stagger buff made it fully worth the tiny damage nerf

[cobalt patrol]

it's actually more damage overall

due to consitent charge time

[short rune]

Oh?

[cobalt patrol]

You can stagger lock hulks.,

very very easily.

[short rune]

Wait, charge time is no longer capped?

[cobalt patrol]

Now it always takes 1s to charge

[naive dragon]

I love the new defense missions tho

[quick crown]

I had a painful experience of a random lobby on it, I died in the first zone because they started deploying mines and strikes while we were still in it which is understandable.

But when i went to get my backpack and quasar the dude started shooting the mines around me (with his HMG emplacement) and killed me. (During the lull between waves)

It was all fine after that but i swear to god i was slowly going between the mines to get this gear that takes 5 minutes to call in

Damn i do love these defense maps though

[short rune]

Sometimes you gotta have to take care of traitorous elements yourself.

[dusky solar]

Hol up don't spread misinfo about that

It WAS a roughly 20% dps nerf

Because of the bug?/feature of half charge chaining

The stagger is a meme now though lol

100% right about that

[cobalt patrol]

I was under the impression the damage was very vriable under the previous model

shrug It's good now

[short rune]

I will still be banned from using it anyway.

Because people like to run in front of me

[south temple]

yeah it feels like you're actually defending shit

[tall nova]

If they run in front of an arc thrower they deserve it

[short rune]

Yes, but they complain anyway.

[tall nova]

Use it anyway

[modest fiber]

mayhaps

[short rune]

I do. It's really strong

[tall nova]

And take Eagle Cluster

[dusky solar]

Nah, that wasn't an issue. It still had the same "gets caught on the slightest bit of terrain" issues as the sickle currently. Like it couldn't/can't shoot through bushes

[keen zinc]

Rock and stone

[cobalt patrol]

Just got a x51 with ap erfect hellbomb timing

[keen zinc]

Good morning divers

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/VMwAI7Jzcf

[cobalt patrol]

https://preview.redd.it/4f1o498hcntc1.png?width=614&format=png&auto=webp&s=27a0794cb9894c622d1a19f46e9e476b8ef49ad0

[tiny flume]

Karl Marx?

[cobalt patrol]

Apparently it was a refrence to deep rock glaatic

[tiny flume]

That was my second guess

[north fiber]

There are two ways to go with the reference tbh

And I haven't seen something confirming either

(and both would make sense)

The Marx one is funnier because that could mean Bots read theory which means the bots have the exploitable weakness of leftist infighting

[tiny flume]

Friendly fire is enabled

[keen zinc]

Karl Sparx

The leader of the Cyborgs

(source: I made it up)

[north fiber]

Don't forget Botsky, the leader of a bot splinter faction

[heady halo]

honestly think guardog will be a good backpack alongside grenade launcher and the explosive main rifle, just to keep the jetpackers away

its good now with the hyperspecific shield build that wants to be close to bots, but that build is largely a fun build for now more than a truly great one, though the shield buffs means its not terrible or letting the side down to play it in harder missions

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/H642AvYYu5

HOLD HERE, HOLD WHAT YOU GOT

[pastel igloo]

think imma farm some SC today since the new warbond should come out tomorrow

we'll see if i have time

[merry cosmos]

Chort bay is still funny to me

[pastel igloo]

Chort Bay is one of the names of all time

[merry cosmos]

The act of colonizing it is peek endless space 2 behavior

[pastel igloo]

does super earth have religion

i assume not

[merry cosmos]

Liberty

[dusky solar]

DEMOCRACY

[merry cosmos]

VOTING

[stark ether]

did i hear a rock and stone

[pastel igloo]

ROCK AND STONE

[merry cosmos]

TO THE BONE

[keen zinc]

They talk about Liberty as if it's a goddess

[solid lagoon]

This goes hard I won’t lie

[keen zinc]

LIBERTY SAVE ME

I honestly think they have a quasi religious association with the concept of Liberty and have personified it

[pastel igloo]

makes sense

[keen zinc]

The superficial veneer of liberty

Idolatry

[merry cosmos]

It's funny is what it is

[pastel igloo]

i think them having religion would probably interfere with their government shit

[merry cosmos]

It's metaphorical

[pastel igloo]

but yeah they do seem to treat Liberty like a deity

[merry cosmos]

They probably send the religious to freedom camps for not saluting the magic sky flag

(This is supposed to be space America after all)

[alpine seal]

i can imagine lady liberty being a distinct concept

statue of liberty is a holy site

[merry cosmos]

Would it even still exist?

[keen zinc]

They moved it to Stockholm

[merry cosmos]

It had to be decontaminated because of the radioactive fallout on it from the first unification war

Unification in heavy quotes mind you

Minor bug I encountered

[blissful sparrow]

looks like someone left the debug for the droppod exclusion zones on 😄

[merry cosmos]

Immediate sentence to the freedom pit

[pastel igloo]

i encountered this funny bug while farming

[tall nova]

How do you farm sc? Just run around on difficulty 1?

[stark ether]

yeah run trivials loot all the poi and then abandon or extract if you also want samples/liberation

[merry cosmos]

I'm already 500 over the amount so I'm just playing diff 7 to metal and lib farm

[stark ether]

i'm hoping to get another rare 100sc drop

[merry cosmos]

Helldivers 2 has FOMO

[cobalt patrol]

I am, honestly, a bit concerned about FOMO from battle passes in the long run

[stark ether]

they have said they will not go away

[cobalt patrol]

And what it'll do to game balance and Dev burnout

That's not the issue

[stark ether]

oh like them piling up while you take a break?

[merry cosmos]

I'm primarily trying to meme about the galactic war

But fair point

[cobalt patrol]

The issue is that a new player a year from now is presented with 36 different weapons to collect across 12k of super credits

That's also a lot of Dev labour

[pastel igloo]

yes

if you find a good mission

you alt+F4

[merry cosmos]

Tbf live service in general is a lot of dev labor

[pastel igloo]

because it lets you redo the mission

[merry cosmos]

It's why I think the devs for them should all get hazard pay

[cobalt patrol]

And that's assuming that we don't get more, larger warbonds - which they've said is a distinct possibility

(though they've also implied they might do smaller ones)

[merry cosmos]

(I'm not being hyperbolic about this btw)

We should be finding new ways of paying developers more

[tall nova]

I'm not worried about fomo. The passes take enough time to finish that you'll raise close to enough creds to start a new one when you finish the first

[pastel igloo]

i have a 50 SC mission that i've been farming

[pastel igloo]

and i agree with this

[merry cosmos]

I also agree

[pastel igloo]

if you just grind out one pass you will absolutely be ready for the next one by the time you are done

[keen zinc]

That's a lot of progression

Sounds awesome

Especially because you can choose what warbonds to start on and what to do later

Or even go half deep in one and switch

[pastel igloo]

yeah

[tall nova]

It takes a while to get the sc to buy a pass, but not unreasonably long

[craggy lagoon]

FYI though, at the rate of farming super credits, you're essentially working for less than minimum wage

It's okay if you want mindless grind esp if occupied with something else but

In all other cases just play game normally and or pay

[tall nova]

While that is true for intentionally grinding for sc, I've just been playing normally and got enough naturally for a pass and a half

[craggy lagoon]

Yea exactly

[keen zinc]

Yeah I'm drowning in SC without farming via the alt f4 method

I've occasionally done trivial traipsing

[craggy lagoon]

I just mean if you are purposefully grinding and not enjoying it, maybe reconsider

[keen zinc]

But not that much

I have like 2500 SC

You just get them with time

[merry cosmos]

1500-ish in my case

[tall nova]

The game bugged for my friend a couple of days ago and gave him 140 sc while the rest of us got 20 that mission

[craggy lagoon]

I do wish games would give you super credits at end of missions

[keen zinc]

Chosen by capitalist God

[craggy lagoon]

Like maybe based on time spent

[merry cosmos]

Helldivers are not payed a wage

[craggy lagoon]

I've occasionally gotten a sc drop that was 100sc instead of 10sc. No clue what causes it

[pastel igloo]

yeah if you don't have the energy to grind absolutely don't

[alpine seal]

i like to imagine the exchange rate of USD to super credits is actually that much in universe

[pastel igloo]

for me personally

i just wanted to grind out the passes

so i did

watched some stream vods while i was at it

[craggy lagoon]

Lol that's pretty funny, helldivers being paid a dollar an hour

[pastel igloo]

you can pay with money, you can pay with time

or you can just play the game and accumulate naturally

i think any way of doing it is perfectly respectable

[stark ether]

TIL if you use a laser weapon and sweep it through a minefield you recreate a delayed explosion anime laser

[merry cosmos]

You're serious?

[craggy lagoon]

Does anyone know if we are getting new super shop armors as well tomorrow, or just the war bonds?

[stark ether]

yeah it takes a half second or so for the mines to go off

so you can sweep it through and then a bit later all the mines you hit go off

[merry cosmos]

New shop armor?

Wot

[tall nova]

If you play normally, you get it at a reasonable rate. If you pay, you dont get a massive advantage

[alpine seal]

there was one new superstore armor rotation last pass

[merry cosmos]

Oh

[pastel igloo]

yeah you don't gain any huge advantages from paying either

which i like

[alpine seal]

namely a light engineering kit armor and heavy medkit one

since the superstore is rotating for thursday it's decently credible that 2 new armor sets are coming

[merry cosmos]

I'm excited tbh

[keen zinc]

More fashion

More brains

Actually no Tarman is scary looking

I am not a zombie I can be trusted around brains

[craggy lagoon]

Idk scorcher and dominator both pretty incredible weapons. Not exactly p2w but they are very strong options

Plasma shotty is fun too

Oh wait the scorcher is not even paid lol

Nvm 😄

[pastel igloo]

you can get everything in-game pretty easily so the Helldivers 2 MTX is something i find to actually not be objectionable at all

honestly the medals are the bigger limiting factor

[craggy lagoon]

I agree, I think the game does it very well. I was just thinking of how the new player experience might be

And yea, medal grind is very real

[azure pewter]

i mean the default liberator is still a top 5 gun for me

[pastel igloo]

like

[merry cosmos]

I need more than 250

I need 500

[pastel igloo]

farming out the warbonds was kind of sysiphean for me

[merry cosmos]

Minimum

[pastel igloo]

because i can't fucking do anything with them rn

literally just no medals

[merry cosmos]

1000 preferably

[pastel igloo]

i really just wanted to do it you know?

there wasn't much point to it

[north fiber]

similar for us except it's the punisher. Super easy to get (first level of the free BP) and just solves so many issues

[keen zinc]

Punisher my beloved

[merry cosmos]

I do not care for the punisher

[pastel igloo]

i'm a big sickle fan

[pastel igloo]

same

[merry cosmos]

It goes well with an MG

[pastel igloo]

i think it actually might be my least favourite gun i've used so far

[keen zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/greande-launcher-shoot-blast-shots-fired-keanu-reeves-gif-15880282

[pastel igloo]

give me a breaker

[hexed steeple]

do you feel like it's punishing to use

[pastel igloo]

yes

lmao

[keen zinc]

Krill issue

[craggy lagoon]

Dominator is still my favorite gun. It's a goddamn bolter, your don't need anything else

[pastel igloo]

maybe

[keen zinc]

Peashooter

[north fiber]

It one taps a lot of things and it has so much stagger

[hexed steeple]

be nice

[pastel igloo]

doesn't change the fact that i think it's shit

[north fiber]

Like holy shit so much stagger

[pastel igloo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[keen zinc]

[merry cosmos]

It's a highly situational wepon (a pump action shotgun)

[pastel igloo]

i don't care about stagger

so it's useless to me

[keen zinc]

Youce previously complained about being swarmed by 500 bugs

[pastel igloo]

yes

i have since stopped playing on Helldive for bugs

[glacial light]

Breaker spray and pray and incendiary removes swarms like nothing

[pastel igloo]

yup

it's based

[keen zinc]

Spray and pray is fun now

[craggy lagoon]

I feel the spray and pray is just worse than the incendiary

[pastel igloo]

love me some breaker action

[merry cosmos]

It also lacks the satisfying burst damage

[keen zinc]

Default breaker is meh

[merry cosmos]

The reason I used the breaker

[keen zinc]

It doesn't stop a berserker in its tracks

[merry cosmos]

Originally anyways

[glacial light]

True but that's what support or senator is for

I use dominator against bots

[keen zinc]

Punisher vs everything

[glacial light]

One tapping devastators is great

[merry cosmos]

If my primary isn't good for single target damage then I do not want to use it

[keen zinc]

Stunlocking heavy devastators is so satisfying

[merry cosmos]

That's what a support is for imho

[pastel igloo]

same

[glacial light]

I'm a big sickle fan and my loadout with ad clear primary, anti med secondary, AT support

[pastel igloo]

i use my primary to melt all the smaller stuff

[keen zinc]

Iirc the Punisher is the highest damage primary in the game tho

[pastel igloo]

i kill bigger stuff with support

[merry cosmos]

It also doesn't fire in full auto and I find it difficult to use properly

[dusky solar]

That seems a little backwards no?

Like most support weapons do really good single target damage

And then you're left to fill horde control with the primary

[glacial light]

Stalwart and Punisher is like interesting role reversal

[keen zinc]

That's my go to loadout lmao

[glacial light]

New explosive weapons are like support primaries for supports weapons that basically work as primaries like laser cannon and autocannon

[keen zinc]

Punisher, Senator, Impact, Jump Pack, Stalwart

[pastel igloo]

i tend to do diligence and autocannon for bots

use Sickle for bugs

[keen zinc]

I don't understand the diligence

[pastel igloo]

what do you not understand about it?

[keen zinc]

Why people swear by it

[pastel igloo]

it's really good for bot clear

[merry cosmos]

It just kinda sucks shit

Imo

[pastel igloo]

if you can headshot you can kill pretty much anything up to a Hulk

[keen zinc]

I've never found it to perform better than the Liberator

[pastel igloo]

with ease

[keen zinc]

You can do the same thing with most guns

[merry cosmos]

With more utility

[keen zinc]

The Liberator has a much larger magazine and still two shots bot domes with a much better optic

[pastel igloo]

i like the feel

[glacial light]

Most bot heavies need med pen to hit their red weakpoints

[pastel igloo]

idk what to say

[keen zinc]

No they don't

[glacial light]

Or ig just hulk has that

[keen zinc]

Hulk back can be ripped up by light pen

Only tank and turret vents are medium armor

[glacial light]

I specified red weakpoint

[pastel igloo]

i just like diligence

[keen zinc]

I'm colorblind sry

[glacial light]

Oh I see

[keen zinc]

Bright red and orange are very much the same for me

[glacial light]

Does HD2 have good colorblind options if at all

[keen zinc]

No

[glacial light]

RIP

[keen zinc]

But I'm not severely colorblind

Not full red green or seeing anything grey

[pastel igloo]

seems like a bit of an accessibility oversight

[keen zinc]

But shades get confused a lot

Purple and blue be like

Flip a coin

[glacial light]

Visual Accessibility in games is kind of complicated since there's a lot of moving parts and simple color filters aren't usually enough. But also most don't see the effort to be worth it

[keen zinc]

Plus some game stuff is color coded so

[pastel igloo]

fair

[keen zinc]

I can see all colors which doesn't disqualify me from much except like

Piloting or bomb defusal lmao

I just confuse colors of similar shade

Age of Wonders 4 fucking kills me because all the color options in faction creation are like

Very similar colors right next to each other in the same shades

And I get the green and brown and dark red confused a lot

[glacial light]

I was thinking about this but are hulk vents also medium armor?

[keen zinc]

Nope

I kill them with the stalwart on max RPM

It deletes them

I also kill them with the punisher because it fucking staggers them

I can save people from Scorchers by stunlocking it with chip damage from the punisher at a distance

Giving people opportunity to run away

It's absurdly good

A punisher can lay on fire into something just to stagger it while other people take it out

Since you can basically reload it so fast as to never run out of ammo

I swear you can load a shell in-between shots

And still fire as fast as you can pump

[pastel igloo]

sounds nice

i found it slow and cumbersome to use so i will stick to my Breaker

or better yet just use the Sickle

[keen zinc]

Sickle is outright better than everything other light pen primary and I won't pretend otherwise

Whenever I use it I get insanely good results and end up with loads of kills and high accuracy

I know it's better. I know I do better with it.

[pastel igloo]

i just like not having to worry about ammo

[honest acorn]

Sickle is probably the best primary in general

[keen zinc]

But.... CHK CHK BOOM

[pastel igloo]

i still use diligence for bots

[keen zinc]

Punisher my beloved

[pastel igloo]

i don't really care if sickle is the best

i like using guns i find enjoyable to play with

[keen zinc]

Ye same

[pastel igloo]

and i really like diligence so i use it

[keen zinc]

I like the diligence set to its lowest magnification

[pastel igloo]

being a meta slave is just unenjoyable

[keen zinc]

Feels like a battle rifle

[honest acorn]

I’ve been running Diligence counter sniper for bots and I like it but it could really do with another reserve mag or two

[pastel igloo]

magnification?

[honest acorn]

Magazine

[keen zinc]

Hold reload to change your optic magn

Wait

[pastel igloo]

oh!

is that what that does

interesting

[keen zinc]

optic magnification and fire rate controls

[honest acorn]

It’s got 6 spares and a small base magazine so I run out a lot

[pastel igloo]

i saw the range stat thing but i didn't know what the purpose of it was

[keen zinc]

Set the Liberator to semi and 200m magnification

And boom you've got a marksman rifle

[honest acorn]

Oh yeah it changes zoom, and maybe zero

[keen zinc]

With a very good sight

[pastel igloo]

i used the automatic handgun and set it to semi

[honest acorn]

But I pretty much never see bullet drop at practical ranges

[pastel igloo]

and it's basically just a direct upgrade to the starting handgun

[keen zinc]

If anyone hasn't tried Semi Auto High Magnification Liberator, I highly recommend giving it a try

[south temple]

it’s so fun

[keen zinc]

Makes the weapon take on a whole new sheen

It is a devastator head popping machine

[south temple]

the bolter has taken it as my number 1 but for bugs i like turning them into paste with buckshot still

[south temple]

regular or pen? semi auto lib pen is crazy for bots

[keen zinc]

Punisher doesn't leave my hands because I refuse to allow anything to invade my space without severe repercussions

Regular lib

It's got the sauce

Auto is good for panic self defense, but semi makes it really really versatile

[turbid tapir]

The diligence is nuts against bots, my go to right now

[keen zinc]

Basically, the Liberator set to max zoom and semi auto is the Marksman Carbine from Fallout: New Vegas

It feels exactly like it

It's great

[turbid tapir]

1 shotting goobers is surprisingly useful and I get a lot of x3 and x4 combos just laying down the heat with it

[pastel igloo]

luv me diligence

[south temple]

i just can’t get off the slugger or bolter it’s too fun

after mulching a denji horde with like ten headshots in a row it became my go-to

[keen zinc]

My beloved...

[turbid tapir]

Diligence suffers when you get THE HOARD (of berserkers) on your ass but that's why you have your pistole grande

[south temple]

it’s so beautiful even tho that mag is a bit cursed ngl

the curve to length ratio looks wrong

[keen zinc]

They cut polys where they could

[south temple]

yeah tru

[keen zinc]

You can actually see the triangles on the magazine if you look at the edge

It's very low poly just got a decent texture

[south temple]

i’m too used to playing cursed new vegas with 1000 texture mods and sound mods

i’m too COD-pilled sadly

[keen zinc]

I cannot wait for them to add the Justice.

I need it

I need it badly

Spoiler because it's a leak

||I NEED it, I NEED it, I NEED it||

[hexed steeple]

it looks sick

[keen zinc]

Different than it used to

[honest acorn]

Damage: 80

high damage
Huh

Might be placeholder stats

[keen zinc]

It's an AR, check the fire rate

[blissful sparrow]

its basically another Lib Penetrator alternative

[keen zinc]

But Good

And my favorite gun from the first game

It and the Patriot

Which is also going to return

[blissful sparrow]

It was a very comfy gun

[keen zinc]

50 recoil on an AR is gonna be funny

It's literally gonna be a Space FAL

And I love the FAL

[blissful sparrow]

simply pull down mouse, ez

[keen zinc]

When playing Arma 3 I use the FAL a lot

[azure pewter]

G3 better runs away

[south temple]

i want to eat that so bad

[keen zinc]

Not the same battlefield role

[south temple]

based (rhs or cup?)

[turbid tapir]

Man Helldivers 1 looked so slick

[keen zinc]

(BOTH)

[stoic lotus]

I tend to use the FAL a fair bit in arma as well

it has pretty wooden furniture

[south temple]

good answer

the OSW with an elcan was my SHIT

[stoic lotus]

we use CUP because it saves like 25GB

[keen zinc]

I rented a server for a while

[south temple]

yeah my brain just likes the high res textures

and fun reloads

the AK thumb animation is my favorite thing ever

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/Os8ltyNW8D

Holy shit

[pastel igloo]

this is in the tutorial ye?

[keen zinc]

Ye

It didn't use to be there

They added it after people joked about it

I love AH

[pastel igloo]

neat

[junior badge]

https://youtu.be/UfY-89hyS3s?si=tpIAN_F0z5i8593v

I chuckled, so I'm sharing ^^

[tiny flume]

Shotguns are most fun with bugs

Oh Dorkly is still alive?

[sinful bay]

Fallout New Vegas texture looking ass -runs

[keen zinc]

I'm sorry but I must roast you

[sinful bay]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-just-let-me-die-flex-tape-im-too-perfect-let-me-die-gif-13374794

[keen zinc]

Genuinely surprised AH hasn't pulled retrieve essential personnel from the operation lists

It'd almost universally reviled as unfun and unbalanced

Defenses fail because people don't want to do that one mission type that shows up in almost every defense operation

[pastel igloo]

i think i've done that mission type like

once

[keen zinc]

It sucks and nobody does it on high diffs

Meaning very few high diff Operations actually get completed

And thus no defense progress

[tall nova]

I like some defense missions

[keen zinc]

It's specifically that one mission

Essential Personnel

Retrieve Civilians and Defend Assets are both great

[sinful bay]

I did on a high dif
Once
...A fire tornado eat my scientist ;w;

[tall nova]

Essential personnel sucks but after the last patch it's not nearly as bad

[north fiber]

Yeah, Essential Personnel is almost undoable. The others are a grand old time

[keen zinc]

Essential Personnel is garbage

[stoic lotus]

I don't think you need to actually complete operations to gain defence progress it's just from doing missions

[keen zinc]

Iirc you do need to complete operations for your liberation progress to be added to the planet

[pastel igloo]

how it is different than the retrieve civilians one?

[north fiber]

The main difference is amount of enemies

Because they spawn immediately and they ramp fast

[pastel igloo]

ahhhh

i see

makes sense

[north fiber]

Like, not even a minute in and multiple hulks have spawned

[keen zinc]

Civilian defense you actually go around the whole map doing two side objectives

Then do the evacuation as a quick finale

[north fiber]

it's a normal map

[keen zinc]

Essential Personnel is just an Eradicate but you have to protect civilians

[pastel igloo]

ahhh i see

[north fiber]

I have only ever completed an essential personnel that wasn't like diff 4 once

[pastel igloo]

ok then i haven't actually done that mission type

but it sounds really shit to play

[keen zinc]

It's an Eradicate where you have to do the civilian extraction for like 40+ scientists or it never ends

And you end up just losing the line from Scorchers being dropped in the middle of the joint

And then you just get broken up and spiral

As bots flood the base with Devastators and hulks

Tides of berserkers

[north fiber]

And tanks

[keen zinc]

It is BIG suck

They really ought to remove it and let the other fun defense missions take it's place

[pastel igloo]

sounds like it!

[blissful sparrow]

The biggest pain is that the bots will be basically instantly inbetween the civis, so you can't even really clean them up

[north fiber]

You can't stop spawning civs for a second and have to constantly be playing out of your mind or you'll get overwehlmed and pushed back at which point GG

The only reliable method is to have 3 people run around the edge of the map being as loud as possible while one person sneaks back and forth spawning the civs

[keen zinc]

The bots straight up drop inside the compound you are trying to defend

It's not even close to a fair defense

[pastel igloo]

wow

[sinful bay]

Throw a Tesla Sentry inside the compound
Ezz /j

[ivory swallow]

They should show the ftl lines in game

[keen zinc]

They should

[pastel igloo]

absolutely

[north fiber]

why do live servicesdevs have a thing about hiding info?

[keen zinc]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/tfd78nqk8E

[pastel igloo]

i think they said something about adding supply lines info into the game

[keen zinc]

The good civilian extraction is the one with the solid shield without the upward arrow

[pastel igloo]

instead of it being outside the game

[north fiber]

give us hard numbers about guns! I want specific recoil behavior stats let alone pen info

[heady halo]

i played a few yesterday for the first time and it was so bad

which sucks because theres some cool possibilities

[keen zinc]

It's seriously in need of going back to the workshop

Taken off the line and reworked then brought back later

[dusky solar]

The only way to consistently do 9s on it is really annoying

[heady halo]

spawn you a unit it of 1.5x completion numbers of scientists, evenely split to follow each helldiver, each with a pistol

walk across the map fighting or avouding patrols to extract with a waiting shuttle

protect the shuttle while it refules

that or go full comedy, and as it is now except it spawns 40 civilian scientists at once and you have to extract 10 of them from an eradication map

[junior badge]

Someone posted a good video about this recently, maybe I can find it again...

But basically it boils down to something like this:

If they give us perfect info, people will immediately jump on that and optimise it to the point where they remove most of the fun. No more experimentation or taste allowed, you run the best stuff or nothing.

[keen zinc]

Or just make the bots have to attack from OUTSIDE

[dusky solar]

You have one person bring 4x red stratagems to immediately control any single drop, and they run to the objective and do it nonstop.

3x people get far away from the base and bait nonstop bot drops to keep the person inside the base clear

[junior badge]

So the devs have to hide some info, and balancing what to give and what to hide is difficult and they get it wrong all the time.

Good dev teams then adjust and improve (like AH looking into showing the supply lines f.ex. and adding the explosive damage to the Scorcher), others just leave it as is.

[keen zinc]

If they didn't drop Scorchers right into the evacuation shuttle door all the civilians are running to

It wouldnt be so torturous

All it takes is a few Hulks in the civilian evacuation path and you're fucked

[pastel igloo]

yeah

[keen zinc]

Because if you try to focus them down the dam of devastators and berserkers outside are going to flood in

But if you don't they kill all your civilians and you too

[dusky solar]

Like i said the best way to do it is to split up

[honest acorn]

It's fairly easy if and only if 3 helldivers hang out on the opposite side of the map drawing all the aggro

[dusky solar]

Distraction team distracts the drops onto them

[junior badge]

I wonder if that mission type gets better if nothing is changed other than adding an AA weapon and stratagem.

[honest acorn]

While 1 guy sneaks around pushing buttons

[dusky solar]

Yuuup

[dusky solar]

See this post

[junior badge]

Just so you can really cut down on the drops.

[dusky solar]

The drop quantity is less of an issue than their location

[honest acorn]

spam smoke is better imo

[pastel igloo]

yeah this sounds like a really unenjoyable way to play

[honest acorn]

just prevents bot interest in the objective

[honest acorn]

I find it pretty fun

You get to set up a Fort Kickass and hold it

[dusky solar]

I tried the smoke strat and was betrayed by RNG

[honest acorn]

Boring to be the button pusher if everything goes right though

[dusky solar]

A tank and a hulk just decided "fuck that lmao i smell scientists"

[junior badge]

I know, but if you can take 3/4 of the drops down, it might be manageable anyway?

[keen zinc]

That just seems like it's gaming the system

[junior badge]

The same way it's doable on lower diffs.

[dusky solar]

It is gaming the system because the mission is designed badly

Only 3 people get to really have fun lol

[pastel igloo]

moreso the idea of being force to stay at one end of the map for the mission to even work at all

sounds kinda just

shit

[keen zinc]

Retrieve Essential Personnel is "I don't start an operation with this mission in it" level bad

[pastel igloo]

and what are you supposed to do if you are solo

or not playing a full squad

[honest acorn]

It's not super static, you just need not go near the objective

You have a lot of space to play in

[dusky solar]

It's hard for me to believe that the current extract scientists mission design was done by the same people that made all the other mission types 😂

[honest acorn]

idgaf about solo players and I don't think arrowhead does either haha

[dusky solar]

But yeah you can go all over the map with the 3 person team and do side objectives

[keen zinc]

Defend civilian evacuation isn't even bad! And it's like the same thing but with sub objectives on a full map and fairer spawns for the finale

[pastel igloo]

i guess

[honest acorn]

The array of POIs and side objectives makes me think its more or less the intended way to do them

[keen zinc]

I'd believe you if it wasn't a 15 minute timer

[dusky solar]

I just think it's kind of bad design haha

Or

Bad execution

The design is okay

[pastel igloo]

they fucked it in some way

[keen zinc]

Like I said, it doesn't need to be scrapped, just take it off the menu and work on it before reintroducing

[dusky solar]

A little rough but if it was more manageable it'd be alright, as demonstrated by the evac civilians missions

[pastel igloo]

if the majority of the player base hate a mission type and don't want to even interact with it

you've done something wrong and need to do something to fix it i think

[keen zinc]

Especially since the newer defense missions they've made

The asset defense and TCS tower defense

Both fucking RULE

[pastel igloo]

the one where you defend the launching missiles fucking rules

[gusty heron]

Yeah, I played the new defense mission this morning and it absolutely FUCKS

[pastel igloo]

proper fucking fortress defense shit

it's so fucking good

[keen zinc]

I really enjoyed the TCS activation missions

[pastel igloo]

you fortify that fucking position and you HOLD IT against the hordes

[keen zinc]

Those were great

You defended silos to initiate the center tower to activate

[gusty heron]

Very good mission type, and the most I've felt like we might actually run out of tools and then die, instead of the usual getting swarmed before we can use everything, which was neat.

[keen zinc]

The bugs spawned in waves whenever you initiated a silos generators

[honest acorn]

Yeah I think the lack of waves makes them too grinding

It's too common to have a good strat and execute on it and lose 70% of the way through because the literally constant spawns grind you down

[keen zinc]

Yeah if REP had broken up waves and didn't drop enemies IN THE PERIMETER, it would be good

And yeah you don't actually help a planet defense if you don't finish an Operation

Doing 2/3 then starting a new one is a failure

Which is probably why we always lose Defenses

[pastel igloo]

probably yeah

if nothing else it absolutely contributes

[keen zinc]

People eat the good stuff in the bag and then throw it away

[dusky solar]

I bet if you tied bot drops to pressing the buttons on the doors it would be more manageable

[keen zinc]

This is a leisure activity so people are totally allowed to be picky about what they spend their free time on

[honest acorn]

fwiw it does

This got clarified back when people were getting mad at people who were mortar grinding for throwing ops

[keen zinc]

No

They confirmed it doesn't hurt

[honest acorn]

Basically earning XP means earning liberation even if you don't see the screen saying you contributed

[keen zinc]

But it doesn't contribute

It doesn't negatively impact to cut out of an operation, but it doesn't help either

And that wasn't a problem because mortar farming was a minor thing

But if the bulk of the community avoids a common mission type on defense campaigns and drop ops before doing them

Yeah it's a major drag on the campaign

[hallow gorge]

Mortar farming only really existed when Major Orders didn't get completed 3 times a week

[tall nova]

iirc liberation % is based on exp earned for a mission

[hallow gorge]

Also the increased mission requirement

[tall nova]

I mean operation

[keen zinc]

Yeah, it's tied to operations

You still get xp and the operations lib contribution is based on the xp earned over the course of the op

[honest acorn]

Mortar farming just existed because 1 set of mortar turrets could clear a 9 eradicate

[tall nova]

Yeah. A completed 9 difficulty gives more % than anything else due to the exp modifiers, but a completed 1 gives more than doing 2/3 of a 9

[honest acorn]

Now that they'll die or run out of ammo first mortar farming is dead

(And most of the mortar farmers are level 25+ haha)

[undone veldt]

So I tried that new wave defense automaton mission types

And uhhh

A team mate joined in the middle and the game broke

[keen zinc]

Lmao

[undone veldt]

No more bots spawned

And the objective froze

[keen zinc]

Ez

[sinful bay]

His precense alone brought terror to the bots and let you win
Good job HElldiver o7

[undone veldt]

Also that wave defense mission was surprisingly easy in general

We finished most of it before he joined

We were on difficulty 7 and not that many bots even spawned

And for a good chunk of them their AI broke

And they just stood there

[honest acorn]

Huh

That was not our experience on 6

Sounds like you had some bugs

[undone veldt]

Yah probably

[turbid tapir]

7 difficulty asset defenses have been pretty crazy in my experience

Give me that x18 500kg bomb combo baybeee

[barren reef]

I have been a very lucky boy and walked out of a mission grabbing over 200 SC. Good day.

[alpine seal]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1c0erln/indiana_jo_nevermind/

[keen zinc]

I hate that I typed this

[honest acorn]

lmfao

[tall nova]

Officer, I'd like to report a thoughtcrime

[keen zinc]

Is it a thoughtcrime if you say it

[glacial light]

A thotcrime

[keen zinc]

@dusky solar your judgement

[dusky solar]

APPROVED

https://tenor.com/view/seal-dance-seal-dance-animal-animal-dance-gif-27375218

(This is the seal of approval)

[honest acorn]

hahahaha

[keen zinc]

Ah, freedom

God damn I love this game

Seeing people like "I'm actually be gonna able to get the new warbond for free!" like it's the first time they've ever not been ripped off in a game

I'm happy for them

[glad marsh]

I can only hope the industry takes a bloody hint

This shouldn't be the exception, but the rule

[keen zinc]

Cough cough FatShark

[glacial light]

BG3, Elden Ring, and now HD2 are part of my top games without predatory microtransactions

I think my top 10 games are old and it's been a while since I found a high production quality game that's mostly standalone or has good live service mxt and suddenly those 3 come out recently

Eating good over the last few years

[dusky solar]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-there-is-another-star-wars-jedi-gif-5140031

https://youtu.be/JC0cA6oCcIs?si=AZXNp_4b6r0YOkXn

Idk if slay the spire dethrones FTL as my favorite game, but it's certainly better

[glacial light]

I've never played Slay the spire

FTL and Sunless Stars(?) we're great too

[dusky solar]

Ooooh wellllll you said High Production and it's an indie deck building game

So maybe it's not the perfect thing

[glacial light]

Oh there's plenty of indie games without mxt which I enjoy, it's more a rarity for like AA and AAA

[candid finch]

Come across a gunship spawner

yeaaaaah this is bad

literally only way I could take out the gunships was a spear, and they can easily gun down the hell bomb we tried to spawn repeatedly

[dusky solar]

They upped the spawn rate for sure. Hot tip: one person chucks an orb laser, assaults the mobs at the base of tower, drops the hellbomb.

Everyone else hard focuses the gunships

[glacial light]

Shield relay seems goated for specifically the gunship factory

[dusky solar]

They break it sooooo fast

[tall nova]

I love how even though HD2 technically has microtransactions, they're the least predatory I've ever seen

[glacial light]

RIP

[dusky solar]

Yeah 😦 great minds think alike though lmao

I tried it once

The problem is they have large but scattered rocket salvoes

BUT

_>

The shield bubble is so big they all hit it

[blissful sparrow]

i just sit 100m away from the gunship factory and slam autocannon rounds into anything that moves more than 2m above the ground

[burnt vapor]

The shield relay could use a buff it goes down so fast on anything higher then like 4 or 5

[glacial light]

I wonder if the new AA launcher will one shot gunships

[honest acorn]

Yeah the shield is real easy to crack

[glacial light]

We need the ability for shield pack users to hug the hellbomb and ensure it goes off "safely"

[keen zinc]

Just had the most targeted ad of all time in the Helldivers reddit

cw drugs

[burnt vapor]

Let me link my shield pack to the relay to form the ultimate defense

[dusky solar]

Hug-based coverage

[glacial light]

I use shield pack for bugs because fuck hunters I refuse to let them become a problem for me

I will simply say no to hunters

Having issues with swarms? Not me

I'm fine idk what you're talking about

[burnt vapor]

things said moments before she is set upon by 20+ hunters

[glacial light]

Only 20?

Laughs in breaker incendiary and napalm

Also stalkers can suck it, no knockback juggling my shield says no and I will stand and shoot you in the face

And spewer one shots

[azure pewter]

<@&1206091872716595200> joim ne

[heady halo]

ill be around shortly

[hazy oriole]

aw MAN i wish i saw this earlier

recent experiences in this game have made me think that I'd personally really like a server browser like in DRG
the kind of types you run into on this game can be...a mixed bag, and server titles tend to tell you a lot about who you're running into when you queue
plus it's nice to know whether a team wants to fullclear or speedrun, the dissonance between one person trying to play another way while someone plays another one can really mess up the gameplay

[graceful bluff]

I also hate the "randomly show missions on a map" shit

there's a reason why one of the first payday 2 mods was removing that

[heady halo]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone else got time for an operation?

in activity 1

gonna farm some super creds for a bit

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> ROBORT BACK >:( KILL

[oblique hazel]

I'll be on in a bit

[keen zinc]

Honestly a golden post

[wraith furnace]

I HAD A FEELING THOSE BINARY LOVING FREAKS WERE BACK

[idle hollow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1206817323860627476/1227613337114902659/1712735533862882.png?ex=66290b03&is=66169603&hm=1ac94f47acae903f1c9ef6c1878fbdef58f3d67b384828af7a5023e8cbcf4689&

[cerulean sluice]

please, please tell me there is something like this for Super Earth

gotta deal with the people who call me "undemocratic" when I mention how bugs made it to bug maps, for example

[oblique hazel]

still got room for one in HA <@&1206091872716595200>

[honest acorn]

<@&1206091872716595200> I got time for an op

Anyone want to start a second room?

[royal lantern]

Gahdamn, why did no one tell me the regular laser cannon actually slaps? It requires a little more finesse than the recoilless or even the autocannon but zorching down hulks and tanks feels fantastic

[keen zinc]

Kiki.

[hardy shell]

Im game

[honest acorn]

I’m in activity 1

[hardy shell]

Sorry man, got roped into a game right after I sent that

[tall stone]

Yeah, it's great. Being able to just sustain a laser in a bot's face is

[honest acorn]

Just learned that you can get 2 towers at the same gunship base

What a pain haha

[candid finch]

Yeah that wiped us out

When I was playing before

Just couldn't hold them off

[honest acorn]

Oh worries I just went with some randoms

[civic apex]

https://twitter.com/Helldivers2HQ/status/1778220921989267839/photo/1

HELLDIVERS 2 Updates (@Helldivers2HQ) on X

NEW PLAN GUYS WHAT IF WE CORRALLED THE BOTS AND BUGS TOWARD EACHOTHER AND THEN START A THREE WAY FIGHT | #Helldivers2

🔗 deathby1000bahabara

Twitter · Apr 11, 2024, 12:38 AM

[glacial light]

Do you want terminid automatons? This is how you get terminid automatons

[unreal merlin]

Yes

[pastel igloo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaT9JjzUZeo

[unkempt river]

I want them to kiss

[short rune]

Really looking forward for the bond. They add a new AP DMR

By the way. Whoever recommended the Sickle to me. Thank you
That weapon is a beast

[unreal merlin]

I try too hard to not overheat the sickle and wind up getting overwhelmed because of a habit to try and wait instead of just reloading in half a second.

Usually it's not an issue but when you're doing a solo bug mission and 40 hunters are bearing down on you it's a little much.

[short rune]

I used it against bots.

It's a really good weapon for flanking maneuvers

[unreal merlin]

Very.

[short rune]

Well, wind-up is a bit stressful but as soon it fires it minces everything

I also hate what they did to the railgun.

They shorted the charger timer, did they?

[stone bridge]

The Railgun nerf was very necessary, but it could probably be pulled back a bit now

[unreal merlin]

Practice burst firing it, hold let go hold let go. Really helps to extend the magazine time when switching targets on raiders and small bugs.

[short rune]

The timer mainly threw me off. I had muscle-memorized how long I could overcharge it. This time I exploded.

[short rune]

Though berserkers are a bit problematic still. They did make them slower tho?

[stone bridge]

Being able to functionally two shot chargers on Safe by knocking out the leg plates, and one shotting bile titans was not okay

[stone bridge]

Nah they haven't touched zerkers

[short rune]

Are you sure?

They used to be as fast as the divers

How good is the HMG?

Or should I save for the mech?

That fact that I saw nobody using it was a bit concerning

[stone bridge]

Yeah, you've always been able to outrun them, they're just tenacious

[short rune]

Fair

[unreal merlin]

Exosuit is cool and powerful though kinda vulnerable, particularly against rocket bots.

You're a big target and you WILL aggro every patrol that looks in your direction from father away than normal, so be ready to fight a LOT.

[short rune]

Ah

So they made them more powerful but also easier to target

[unreal merlin]

It absolutely will mince pretty much anything though if you're not getting totally swamped like in an extermination mission

[stone bridge]

I'd wait for usability buffs, it both has annoyingly misaligned sights and no hipfire cursor - the incredible awkwardness of using it doesn't match the power you get for mastering it

[short rune]

Guess we have to hope they add the REP-80 or so

Welding torch

[unreal merlin]

They did reduce the HMGs max fire rate down but that was justified. 1200rpm buzz saw was just ridiculous

[quick plinth]

checking all the previous update times on steam,
something tells me the update today is coming out around <t:1712826420:t>

[short rune]

Ah