Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[graceful bluff]

razorwire field

[honest acorn]

"Helldivers, Super Burger must be protected at all costs"

[blissful sparrow]

doesn't have a sidecar

[sweet surge]

With all this talk about wanting things from the first game
What is a thing you don't see them bringing back?

[alpine seal]

the rumbler

[quick crown]

HELLDIVER UPLOAD THE ORDER ON THE TERMINAL

[blissful sparrow]

well, i highly doubt they'll somehow manage to reintroduce the single shared screen for the entire party 😄

[sinful bay]

I got ya

[blissful sparrow]

but i would be impressed if they did manage to bring that back

[alpine seal]

that and mediguns

[quick crown]

Which modern warfare started with you fighting in DC again

[blissful sparrow]

3 i think

[stoic lotus]

3?

[quick crown]

I kinda wanna go back and play the stories again.

They were dumb and cool

[stoic lotus]

I haven't played any of them how on earth do I know that

[graceful bluff]

I really want a planet that is just eternal suburbs you have to go through

like an infinite nuketown

[blissful sparrow]

becuase i only played 1 and there is no way you could start into 2 after that with the invasion of the US straight away 😄

[quick crown]

This is a nightmare made manifest to some people

[graceful bluff]

American suburbs are already a nightmare made manifest to me

[quick crown]

Just this as far as the eye can see

[graceful bluff]

let me level it with a 500kg

[quick crown]

Legit fear tbh

Something about it is like

[graceful bluff]

Either local grass will live there or nothing will

[blissful sparrow]

well, considering the 500kg, you would level exactly 1 building with that

[quick crown]

Liminal spaces x20

[rotund marten]

I think super earth is already an infinite suburb

[stoic lotus]

yes we are called "europeans"

[rotund marten]

look at this house number

the megasuburb

[sinful bay]

Tbh could be way worst

[stoic lotus]

super earth has labelled megacities

so it makes sense that surrounding them would be megasuburbs

[blissful sparrow]

they just made the numbers 0 and 1 illegal because it makes you look like a bot sympathizer

[quick crown]

Whats the healthy middleground here

Townhouses?

[stoic lotus]

on super earth, we don't settle for the middleground

[quick crown]

/gen

[stoic lotus]

we take the highest ground there is, in the name of managed democracy

[blissful sparrow]

walkable cities everywhere

[stoic lotus]

is that an xkcd

[blissful sparrow]

yes

drain the ocean

[sinful bay]

F

[graceful bluff]

what

[quick crown]

Ah Sufficiently-sized homes

[graceful bluff]

there was like 3 days left

[sinful bay]

posted 15 days ago

[quick crown]

That surely must be the middleground

[stoic lotus]

must be the last major order

[blissful sparrow]

also part 2

[stoic lotus]

lmao

I guess that's where all the water went

[sinful bay]

a

[honest acorn]

There's house numbers like that near me haha

[stoic lotus]

[steady bone]

why did new netherlands take all the water

[blissful sparrow]

yup "what if we drained the ocean through a small hole" and then someone asked "what if that hole lead to mars?"

[quick crown]

mars daybreak

[graceful bluff]

Ah yes, the ring that makes your finger disappear incident

[blissful sparrow]

https://what-if.xkcd.com/53/ and https://what-if.xkcd.com/54/

[rotund marten]

forcibly reversing Brexit by recreating the Great Britain->Europe land bridge

[blissful sparrow]

thats why when you look on the galaxy map in the central sector there is Super Earth and Mars

its all Netherlands

[stoic lotus]

doggerland forever

[undone veldt]

anyone wanna do some suicide missions?

[tiny flume]

Which ship modules should I be prioritising?

[blissful sparrow]

the first QoL thing i'd consider is the "support weapons come with full ammo"

and after that Eagle Strategems get the biggest buffs from the Ship modules

[tiny flume]

Makes sense

[stoic lotus]

yeah I went for the very first one in the list and then eagle

[merry cosmos]

There all pretty nice to have tbh

I have the 2nd tier of everything

[kindred lintel]

turret ammo makes them great

[merry cosmos]

Turret health too

[kindred lintel]

yea but thats a t2 one, which for new players might take a bit

[hexed steeple]

turret turn speed yummy

[graceful bluff]

it's so tasty

[undone veldt]

I just got an in game ad for eagle sweat cologne

[tiny flume]

I do like the turret, but it seems situational to certain missions

[undone veldt]

I’ve never been more disgusted

[sinful bay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bf2x06/blue_beam_caught_clear_as_day/ What is the blue beam

[sinful bay]

Is the hero's drink of choice

[blissful sparrow]

Ricochet from armor looks like that

[glacial light]

Eagle sweat genetically modified your DNA upon spray

And some other dystopian nightmares super democratic fun

[undone veldt]

Oh god

[glacial light]

Watching the whole ad is a fuck

[quick plinth]

never seen that one

I guess I don't spend enough time on the destroyer

[sinful bay]

So you haven't seen the ad that says children over 7 already work on factories?

[dusty spruce]

I like the one for the Breaker where they are using it as a civilian hunting weapon

[glacial light]

Anyone <@&1206091872716595200> ing rn?

[kindred lintel]

i can get on in a few mins

[merry cosmos]

Why's that?

[undone veldt]

Eagle sweat cologne

[merry cosmos]

But why are you disgusted

Is it because it uses terminrd rapid evolutionary cells for its dna rewriting technology

[undone veldt]

I feel like that should be self evident

[merry cosmos]

Im trying to be funny

Also the automotons are going the wrong way if they want to "liberate" cyberstan

[dusty spruce]

I imagine they'll push off through Ustotu and maybe reclaim the rest of the Trigon sector soon

[junior badge]

while we're distracted by the TCS?

[merry cosmos]

Yes

[dusty spruce]

Maybe? I'm excited for it, one of the planets in the Ymir sector has some effects I haven't seen yet and a new planet 'image'

[oak crow]

I'm just said that we liberated Meridia

its my favorite planet to fight bugs on :(

[alpine seal]

there's only one place to go now.

[hushed voice]

Erata Prime.

[merry cosmos]

I want to see what happens when the automotons take cyberstan

Would the cyborgs comeback?

[oak crow]

horrifying

[dusty spruce]

Possibly, the bugs that don't exist (BtdE) show that they are willing to introduce more enemy types for individual factions

[oak crow]

did y'all just disconnect, or is that an issue with me?

[dusty spruce]

Can't escape being railroaded by a DM just cuz it's not pen and paper

[merry cosmos]

A dm willing to railroad is a good dm

[supple siren]

God, the Patriot sure puts in the work when it doesn't decide to explode itself. May be an always-bring if they patch that up

[fleet jacinth]

I hope hunter spawns go down a little when the flying bugs go real public

[merry cosmos]

its supposed to be a light Assault vehicle. Get better at dodging shit rookie

[supple siren]

Nono, the 'if you fire a rocket when walking or turning, you have a roughly 50/50 shot at just blowing up'

[merry cosmos]

Oh yeah that

But that was supposed to be in character

[supple siren]

Painful to have a whole strat slot be 'killing yourself twice'

[hexed steeple]

dodge your own missiles

[alpine seal]

the exo performs best at solo operative play, for splitting up from the group in my experience. honestly your teammates with explosive weapons are more hazardous to mech operatives than the bugs

very good for egg hunt missions which are common in the termitower rotation

[merry cosmos]

I had an idea regarding that datajack at the back of most helmets

Personality override

[alpine seal]

kicking isnt enough i need to personjack this helldiver myself

[quick crown]

People out here talking about brain hacking like its ghost in the shell. FEAR

[merry cosmos]

Why is that worthy of fear?

[quick crown]

Brain hacking in ghost in the shell is pretty much the same as mind/memory/body control in universe

Its incredibly scarring if the person subjected to it even gets out the otherside of the process

spooky stuff to think about

I hope the servers don't fall apart this weekend

[rich marlin]

I've done two of these so far and really wanna share em! Gonna make more for this little series

[naive dragon]

Oh boy

[hexed steeple]

i miss my free rockets

[sinful bay]

I miss my free mech

[undone veldt]

Sorry

[modest fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqkT0VdIQAM

[tiny flume]

https://youtu.be/RHMARlkUVE0?si=KA7jHTAGDbGWmVmq

I also recommend Certifiably In Game

[unreal merlin]

"There are countless hells in the galaxy. There is only one Malevelon Creek"

[tiny flume]

Evenf1997 is good to for community stuff as it happens

[graceful bluff]

Still trying to decide if the napalm mines or regular mines are better

[sinful bay]

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[modest fiber]

yea, the fandom lore stuff is quite neat, i mean it did actually happen and all but still

[graceful bluff]

Honestly I just love community lore like that

[sinful bay]

Napalm mines for bots, cuz slower and they stay still to aim more, i feel

[graceful bluff]

Still my favourite part of eve

[tiny flume]

Evans really good at that stuff

I can see it being his main focus once d2 slows down

[unreal merlin]

Ah the fatbee. What an excellent symbol. So exploitable.

[modest fiber]

same, same

[graceful bluff]

The artist for it really struck gold with that one

the bee stinger pickelhaubes also great

[sinful bay]

🐝

They really incorporate the swarm tactics well

[graceful bluff]

Just handing every newbie a rifter yeah

[sinful bay]

Just like Super Earth would do

"You see that boy? Here, have a rifle, go for it super boy"

[graceful bluff]

God I miss the rifter

such a nice looking rustbucket

[tiny flume]

I wonder when they're gonna open the 3rd front against the fish people

Probably not for a while

[graceful bluff]

if reddit is to be believed they're already pranking people

[sinful bay]

Ah yes the 'blue beam'

[graceful bluff]

the blue shotgun

not the bugged out illegal broadcast tower

[sinful bay]

Man
Recolor armor when, I really miss the golden n yellow drip

[graceful bluff]

I just like the story, whether real or not, that there's invisible illuminate going around Predator style on some planets

[sinful bay]

I WAS RIGHT

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1bfgs6y/we_officially_know_what_the_automatons_chant/

[tiny flume]

All seems like a bug to me, but they can always make it canon retroactivley

[graceful bluff]

that's also a really nice thing, taking community stuff and building onto it

I think the most famous one of that is Clem In warframe

[sinful bay]

Clem is king

[azure pewter]

C l e m

[quick plinth]

btw you can change the reddit part of a reddit link to rxddit and it'll make it embed in discord better

[tiny flume]

Hmmm

Well that wasn't fun

I drowned, but the game didn't register me as dead

So I couldn't respawn

And that got me kicked

[blissful sparrow]

yeah, thats a common bug right now

[tiny flume]

Shame cos we found some double doors for supercredits

[blissful sparrow]

need someone to put you down

[tiny flume]

I asked them to

<@&1206091872716595200> Anyone want to help a new player get some levels?

[quick plinth]

what difficulty do you plan on playing?

[tiny flume]

Hard probably

[quick plinth]

what's that number wise again

3?

5?

[tiny flume]

Ah wait, challenging

So 4

[quick plinth]

yeah sure I'll go for some chill missions

[tiny flume]

I can send you my friend code right?

[honest acorn]

I might be like 40 mins but can

[merry cosmos]

I need an helldivers autistism creature

[hexed steeple]

the limitless power of creation lies within your hands

[granite rivet]

https://youtu.be/qqkT0VdIQAM?si=J0QEqHdm1VuDzQS8

Malevelon Creek kind of reminds me of the story of the corrupted blood incident from WoW where it was an unplanned and emergent community narrative

[sinful bay]

what difficulty you would say is the 'sweet spot'? Not too easy, not too hard and yo usee a bit of everything

[granite rivet]

I like 5 but it really depends on what faction or planet modifiers there are

it really is just a "need to experiment until one finds it" because it's different for everyone

[alpine seal]

i've gotten used to 7 but it requires a good squad, bad termitower can really screw a group

so yeah, up to personal preference

i can solo up to 6 decently well

[cerulean sluice]

6 honestly is what I'm good with - you get the big iconic enemies outside of boss encounters/joel being mean without the pain of 7-9

[merry cosmos]

I like playing on 8

[sinful bay]

Seems to vary a lot from person to person, honestly that's cool

[merry cosmos]

Well my actual answer would be 5-6. But ive been getting used to 8 on terminid missions

[stoic lotus]

update: past alex was a FOOL I just unlocked the battlepass

it actually didn't take that long to get the super credits

[glacial light]

6 on the more casual game with randos, 7 for a group with VC

[barren iron]

my sweet spot is 7

[dusty spruce]

Yeah, I find 7 just about ideal for most things. Except sometimes during eradicate/TCS where it decides now is the time for 4 biles

but usually it isn't too bad

[glacial light]

Only 4 bile titans?

But yea spawns on TCS are wack

Either the easiest thing or many a chargers and titans nonstop

[dusty spruce]

It's almost always two easy ones and then one teeth grindingly hard

but it's not a matter of sequence

feels more like one tower is just 'cursed' compared to the others

[jolly mortar]

I might be a sicko.

I enjoy the punisher plasma.

Being able to pop bile-spewers in two shots to wherever on their body is fun.

[vestal trail]

If you ever want to just farm them, run Diff 1 missions back to back for prime loot density relative to time taken

[blissful sparrow]

Man just had the greatest time in helldivers ever
We were playing 8s and got a bit stressed with barely managing to finish, so we wanted to do a nice, relaxed Diff 4 kill mission
except when we were in the mission the game decided to spawn 10 bile titans and about 20 chargers within the first 30 seconds and we realized the game had somehow decided this would be a Diff 8 mission aswell

[jolly mortar]

Joel found you.

[blissful sparrow]

somehow we managed to pull it off. sadly only got the rewards for a Diff 4 mission and on the globe afterwards it said we were in a Diff campaign

but man, i thought they had reduced the spawnrate of Titans and chargers, not increased it

[glacial light]

I overall I can tell it's lower than before

In thinking it could be a bug with the new spawn rate booster

[daring monolith]

hm

tried out the Blitzer for the first time and I'm really not impressed

it feels very slow. and like it hits less hard than the arc thrower for more downside (which I guess is fair, it's a primary not a support)

[tiny flume]

I found some foll but thanks

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> hell diving in HA hangout

[stoic lotus]

that is what I did yes

[vestal trail]

It's surprisingly easy to get ahead of the curve with Super Creds if you're playing the game just enough

[graceful bluff]

Yeah, especially if you keep track of what types of armors are exclusive to the superstore and which ones you have already

for example I have a 550 speed light armor with the same perk as the one in the store so I don't want to get that one

[dusty spruce]

But fashion

[glacial light]

Supermarket graced me with heavy stim armor

[unreal merlin]

• don't buy every superstore item just because you don't have it
• go out of your way to loot POIs for super credits (even on lower difficulties if you're really looking to not struggle)

[glacial light]

I did end up buying SC cause impati and had the money

I wanted the sickle and stun grenade now

[merry cosmos]

Apparently there's going to be a mass Assault on the creek tomorrow

[unreal merlin]

You mean a meta-coordination of players to catch the insidious Joel unprepared?

[honest acorn]

https://x.com/pilestedt/status/1768765861463035956?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

Pilestedt (@Pilestedt) on X

Blue beams aren't real, it can't hurt you.

Twitter · Mar 15, 2024, 10:26 PM

Good news

[merry cosmos]

Yes

I want to attend. But i need to contribute to the TCS

[unreal merlin]

Good news is that Erata Prime is set to close out in < 6 hours.

[merry cosmos]

So it won't really matter?

[naive dragon]

I love sickle

Farming to get dagger will be nice

[dusty spruce]

Hope the Creek war goes well, may be rough if Draupnir remains in Automaton control

[naive dragon]

The Creek will be defended, if not for liberation then to keep them from spilling out of it

[quick plinth]

where are you seeing this?

[unreal merlin]

https://helldiverstrainingmanual.com/

[hot meadow]

Kinda glad this doesn't just happen to mee

it's pretty weird when it suddenly decides to spawn all the chargers on the planet at one time

[rotund marten]

<@&1206091872716595200> I am too wiped out for any game that requires brain cells, who up diving they hells

[quick plinth]

i think someone missed a zero somewhere

we had like a diff 7 TCS tower mission where it just kept spawning bile titans on the first tower

[jolly mortar]

if anything I've been noticing more spawns on lower difficulties. I haven't run a diff 7+ since the patch, but an earlier mission on diff 5 we had like four or five chargers at once

[quick plinth]

but then basically turned into a trivial mission for the other two towers and extract

it might have something to do with the new booster

[dusty spruce]

Combination of that and this one. This gives info on player count and reinforcement rate, hat one gives good info on the war map and calculation of time remaining
https://helldiverscompanion.com

[unreal merlin]

https://helldivers.io/
For a third one!

this one's very simple and unstylized which may be preferential

[oak crow]

well, i’ve been doing solo runs thereabouts anyways

might as well keep it up

[idle hollow]

7 is the sweet spot definitely

6 doesnt have super samples, 7 does and isn't nightmarish

[naive dragon]

I tried a solo 8 in the creek

The first... two minutes? went well

[quick plinth]

you basically have to play it like MGSV

[naive dragon]

I played it like that one scene in the animated clone wars until I didn't

[quick plinth]

that doesnt tell me anything

[modest fiber]

ah the standard learning difficulty, good for paranoiya

[unreal merlin]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f50c90712000266084cc50d6876f05c2/tenor.gif?itemid=10217814

[naive dragon]

Oh that

That was much shor-

[idle hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-reach-reach-reach-ending-guh-gif-25799577

malevelon

[naive dragon]

Oh I see one moment (I fucked up)

[wide mural]

circle strafe gets em every time

the classic

[naive dragon]

don't be dumb and get killed by berserkers challenge (impossible)

[quick plinth]

why is ur HUD slanted?

[naive dragon]

Slanted?

Oh

[unreal merlin]

Th HUD elements being curved.

[naive dragon]

there's an option that adds a slant lemme find it

I thought it looked cool

[quick plinth]

huh

for me when games have it it mostly feels detrimental

but yeah

it gives you that helment HUD feel I guess

[naive dragon]

yeah

[copper crest]

Ooh it's even a scale and not a toggle

So you could make it real subtle if you wanted

[unreal merlin]

I want my healthbar to cover a 90 degree angle

[quick plinth]

you want it to be upright?

[naive dragon]

lol

[unreal merlin]

No I want it L shaped

[undone veldt]

Does the machine gun have any armor piercing?

[rapid plover]

medium AP I believe?

[undone veldt]

Ah ok

[unreal merlin]

Yes, Machine Gun is medium armor pen (and consequently mulches everything)

[undone veldt]

Yah basically everything but chargers/bile titans and hulks/tanks right?

[unreal merlin]

I believe so, yes. Bile Titans, Chargers, Hulks, Tanks, and other automaton structures are the only things with heavy armor AFAIK.

[undone veldt]

Alright cool

[rotund marten]

turns out on the Extreme Cold planet you can fire the new laser rifle for ten straight seconds without overheating

making it extremely cracked

[unreal merlin]

It technically only does reduced damage vs medium armor (medium pen = at least AFFECTS medium armor) but the sheer volume of fire and raw damage numbers means you can kind of just mag dump into a crowd with abandon

[undone veldt]

Yah most enemies except for the really heavy ones in this game never have that much armor

So long as you can Pierce them you can normally kill them

[unreal merlin]

I forget what the armor pen reduction is. It's either 60% reduced (40% damage dealt) or 40% reduced (60% damage dealt) and I can't remember which it is.

[quick plinth]

bile spewers have too much HP to be dealth with via MG

even if it can pen them

[unreal merlin]

I don't think so? Depends on what you're shooting. I usually just pop their heads and the MG absolutely can mulch their noggins.

[oblique storm]

Yeah the MG headshots them pretty well

[stone bridge]

Yeah if you're shooting Spewers in the bile sac part, you need explosives to do any meaningful damage, but the head is consistently vulnerable to small arms

[unreal merlin]

IIRC the Nursing Spewers (yellow ones) have light armor heads while the Bile Spewers (green ones) have medium armor heads and extra plating on their abdomen. For both of them the abdomen has explosive-armor meaning non EXPLOSIVE tagged weapons only do a fraction of the damage to it.

[alpine seal]

60% dealt

though that made me doubt for a moment and looked it up from a guide

[unreal merlin]

The Scorcher is really solid as it takes 4-5 quick shots to the very easy target of their abdomen to pop them.

There's a lot of sources to draw from and quite honestly:

• I don't have a lot of word-of-mouth trust when it comes to mechanics for HD2
• I'm trying to avoid falling prey to the dozens of clickbait helldivers videos and guides, few none of which are going to tell me things I don't already know

[rotund marten]

I'm really looking forward to trying out stun nades plus scorcher for bugs, because theoretically that completely trivialises chargers

[vestal trail]

I don't think it can punch into Bot Chickens, but otherwise this is accurate

[unreal merlin]

Stun grenades in general trivialize chargers (and hulks) though the scorcher itself isn't a wonder-weapon vs chargers. It's adequate for dumping on the backside abdomen in a pinch due to the explosive tag.

[rotund marten]

I have in fact used it on them a lot, yes

[vestal trail]

I've heard from a friend of mine that Stun Cans might even be able to stop Bile Titans with a well placed airburst

[rotund marten]

it's about a mag to kill a charger and just being able to walk around and zap them saves quite a few resources

[unreal merlin]

yeah

[rotund marten]

although two impacts would also do it outright, so personal taste

[unreal merlin]

I've been running EAT-17s the past few days, it's been nice.

[rotund marten]

I have not been able to play for a few days so I'm just getting stuck into the new warbond now, haven't got the stuns yet

[vestal trail]

"Send more tubes."
"Do you mean nudes?"
"No, tubes, there's chargers here."

[rotund marten]

new laser rifle pairs very well with the grenade launcher

since you mostly use your primary for cleanup

[daring monolith]

EATs are really nice

at least vs bugs (haven't used it much vs bots, autocannon is my go to for them)

[unreal merlin]

SICKLE / REDEEMER / IMPACT
INFILTRATOR OR ENGINEER ARMOR (PREFERABLY LIGHT)
EAT-17 / ORBITAL GATLING / ORBITAL AIRBURST / FREE (BACKPACK USUALLY, E.G. JUMPJETS)```
what I've been having a pretty great time with

[stiff pine]

I need super creditssss

[shy prairie]

Saaame

[stiff pine]

...does buying the super citizen unlock the premium warbonds?

[shy prairie]

AFAIK only the steel vet one

[vestal trail]

Super Citizen specifically unlocks the Steeled Veterans warbond; IF YOU ALREADY BOUGHT STEELED VETERANS, YOU DO NOT GET REFUNDED ANY SUPER CREDITS

[stiff pine]

Ahhh that's not the one I want

[rotund marten]

I picked up the extra grenade light armour alongside the new warbond and it very rapidly became my favourite for solo runs

[stiff pine]

I have like 750SC anyway

[rotund marten]

fire nade and tesla tower trivialises most low-difficulty breaches, and I imagine it will get even better when I can go stun grenade/grenade launcher/slugger

[vestal trail]

I recommend spamming Diff 1 missions on Draupnir; the objectives are very quick and you'll average 6-8 PoIs on very small maps

If you're looking purely to farm, that is

[stiff pine]

I was thinking about this, but don't you run into a lot of friendship doors?

[unreal merlin]

+2 grenades is so mondo good, especially once you've got impacts and can generously go wild on things like tanks, cannons, or devastators

[vestal trail]

Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. If you have a friend who can come with you, it is recommened to shanghai them.

[unreal merlin]

infiltrator armor is very fun when you run with a friend who ALSO understands how to not aggro patrols

[stone bridge]

My loadout of choice rn is Sickle/Redeemer/Stuns, the Titan grenade armour that's in the store rn, and Autocannon

Excpetionally versatile jack of all trades loadout

[stiff pine]

Yeah I like the look of the extra lasers in the new bond

[vestal trail]

The Sickle is a primo workhorse weapon if that's what you're wanting

[jolly mortar]

more or less identical for mine but I generally run impacts, a different engineering kit medium armor, and a GL

[unreal merlin]

The dagger I wasn't impressed by (it's a half-damage scythe as a sidearm) but the Sickle is plain awesome.

[vestal trail]

The Dagger is fine, it's basically a pocket Scythe with all that would entail

[jolly mortar]

I might start running stuns though, they're pretty useful

[unreal merlin]

truthfully I wasn't ever going to be impressed by the dagger anyway since I already didn't enjoy the scythe. if you like the scythe the dagger is great

[vestal trail]

The Dagger can punch up into things like Warriors and Devastators with more precision shooting, but it's not ammo efficient at doing so, so you should mostly look at it as a chaff sweeper so your primary can save some ammo

Or you go full disco and just cycle between laser weapons

[glacial light]

It's probably just 1s and 0s for we hate freedom and managed democracy

[tiny flume]

Ha, imagine following the orders of some robot

We civilised people follow the perfect algorithm government machine we made

I wonder if the devs have plans in place for superearth being attacked

I imagine it won't naturally be attacked for a long time, but I could see an expansion where it is

Like oh no there were bugs hidden under the planet / all the bug juice we use ran off into the sewers

Or some kinda robot uprising etc

It's a lever they can pull to get people back for an expansion

[dusty spruce]

First game had a nice urban tile set for super earth and other planetary capitals

I dunno if we’ll get that back exactly, maybe sticking to something more suburban, since it agrees with the map generation of this game better

[oblique storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8_8eb8Mub0

People already made lyric videos damn

[tiny flume]

They could get away with more if its already a ruined war zone

[oblique storm]

I think the next time I write a sci-fi setting I'm straight up putting the Automatons into it

I fucking love them so much

[tiny flume]

I still havent fought them yet

Everyone is very bug focused

[oblique storm]

sounds like we gotta send you to the creek greenhorn

[tiny flume]

I'm in no rush

[oblique storm]

that wasn't a request soldier

https://tenor.com/view/horror-humanoid-out-of-screen-creepyman-gif-7623118

[honest acorn]

They’re so good I’m making an Eclipse Phase transplant faction for them

[unreal merlin]

Going from bugs to automatons was a bit of a wakeup call. They're a lot more interactive and have more things to keep in mind the whole mission. Also the bugs don't literally force you to take cover behind a chest high wall with sheer volume of bullets.

[dusty spruce]

In that case, you must be shown the famous video: “Calmest day on Malevelon Creek”

[oblique storm]

Automatons were specifically created to pander to Pilot.net

[tiny flume]

I'm sure they'll get an objective focus soon

[oblique storm]

think about it

Socialist robots that are decked out in black and red with skull motifs because their communist creators had the aesthetic sensabilities of your average ork boy

that's every lancer player

[unreal merlin]

I kinda want to gesture to some of the stuff from Mythic Space's antagonist factions.

[dusty spruce]

Yeah, they’ll probably pull us back that way after the TCS go up

Maybe with a push towards glorious Cyberstan

[oblique storm]

The automaton motivation in HLD2 is literally just

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH75VlIUFWk

[dusty spruce]

Don’t forget to mention the cyborg homeworld of fucking Cyberstan

[unreal merlin]

oh yeah that's why I have this urge, behold the uh. similarities

I wonder, however did my brain associate these with the automatons of HD2

a mystery

[honest acorn]

lmfao

[undone veldt]

I love how the automatons are divided between normal robots and the murder bots that have skulls strapped to them from all the helldivers they’ve killed

[daring monolith]

The berserkers are very funny

[cerulean sluice]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone down for some 6 or 7s?

[keen zinc]

sure

[cerulean sluice]

gonna be in https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/679662242672672769

[keen zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j21EsOJDLsY

its time to go inzane

we need a fourth

patriots

do not fail us

[stiff pine]

Helldivers, I'm grinding trivial bot missions for super credits

[cobalt patrol]

I was actually thinking of doing similar, so if you wanna team up?

Though i'm gonna be off vox and watching anime if that's chill

[stiff pine]

Yeah sure

I'm listening to stand up

[cobalt patrol]

@stiff pine Cool, it's not letting me join on you for w/e reason

[undone veldt]

Can any gun do damage to a hulk if you shoot them in the eye?

[honest acorn]

I’m not sure

[stone bridge]

I think the eye slit is medium armour at worst

[undone veldt]

Alright

[cobalt patrol]

The slugger i don't belive can do it

I should try with stun grenades

[undone veldt]

I mean with stun grenades it’s probably better to target the back anyway

[cobalt patrol]

It's more for testing purposes, lol

Oh nice, the major order got done, TCS online

[undone veldt]

Ah yah fair lol

[undone veldt]

Oh hell yah

Medals for everyone

[stone bridge]

Woop woop

[undone veldt]

Now to see if it actually works or if it just makes the bugs stronger somehow

[cobalt patrol]

110% making the bugs stronger

Though i'm actually betting we might get a push where we "Exterimiante" the tyerminids

then the new faction invades

and the terminidns come back

( becaue we're too `distrascted with things)

[undone veldt]

Yah like, the game is way to early in its life cycle to eliminate a faction

So it’s either we do push them back to their home planets where stronger bugs lie

Or this mutates them into stronger bugs

No matter what we’re fighting stronger bugs

[cobalt patrol]

What i'm meaning is that they'll "Eliminiate it" as a fake out

like it wont really be gone, it'll just be a oh you totally did it

que gigantic fuckup

[undone veldt]

Ohhh yah I see what you mean

[unreal merlin]

Things have already gotten worse, the bugs have wings.

[cobalt patrol]

Those arent reliably spawning though?

@stiff pine you dc?

[stiff pine]

....no

but our connection seems mad buggy

[cobalt patrol]

Werid

[meager saffron]

go to an automaton planet then

[cobalt patrol]

Thresh

Thresh why are you like this

[unreal merlin]

some of us were blursed with terrible pun and/or dadjoke powers and we see fit to inflict them on others mercilessly

[stiff pine]

@cobalt patrol Thanks for the help!

[cobalt patrol]

Yw\

[rotund marten]

50 medals from the big objective means I'm nearly at stun grenades

honestly the game kind of throws medals at you, it's great

[cobalt patrol]

It does, it's really nice in that regard

[oblique lotus]

<@&1206091872716595200> lf1

I think my ship guns are broken

[meager saffron]

your ship has walleyes

[lethal granite]

almost at page 8 of the warbond

[strange vine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPmsurGVRdA

[honest acorn]

Oh that’s a cool trick

[oblique lotus]

ooh

[jolly mortar]

as a senator main, this makes me want the blitzer more

[rich marlin]

I desire fellow <@&1206091872716595200>, anyone up for some challenging/hard missions with me?

[copper crest]

Heard Errata Prime just got liberated

[rapid plover]

Yeah the order is done

Now we wait and see when something new happens

[hexed steeple]

something new? yea more towers on the next line of planets. cause nothing’s wrong with them

duh

[stone bridge]

true....

[unreal merlin]

The bug menace is suppressed forever on those four worlds and nothing at all will ever go wrong there again.

[glad marsh]

oo-rah Helldiver! We stomped those bugs for good!

[meager saffron]

@wind arrow could I get an inv if you're free

lobby is still private

rip

lmao

[fleet jacinth]

Oo-rah!

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> Who's around and interested in soime Hell Divin?

[rich marlin]

o/

points to Activity 1

[fleet jacinth]

ERATA PRIME IS LIBERATED?

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-democracy-moment-gif-676178966146504450

[ionic holly]

65 medals to go till I get the blitzer, hell yeah

[oblique lotus]

cube

[cobalt patrol]

Well, i just found out they changed a rock so the turrets bounce off it, instead of going in in exterimate missions

@shrewd tiger @rich marlin Brb, sorting some rl stuff

[junior badge]

Was that near the edge of the map?

I'm wondering if that's a placeholder for something - like those mysterious blue beams...

[quick plinth]

no, not really

just a floating box

[junior badge]

Ah. I found it near the edge of the map, where I don't think anything else was that got blown up.

(because I've seen stuff get blown up and leave floaties behind in other games before)

[stiff pine]

the sickle is not exactly the stormtrooper blaster I'm looking for but I'll take it

It's more...responsive? than the scythe

where I can't tell if I'm actually damaging stuff

[stone bridge]

the Sickle is not outdoing any weapon in huge burst damage or anything, but its an extremely reliable workhorse

you pick it up and shoot guys and it will do that accurately with no recoil + regenerating ammo

[quartz cloak]

Yep, I adore it

It can reliably kill pretty much everything I want it to (which is to say, anything not requiring a Recoilless/Spear shot)

Even Devastators are easy to put down because One Recoil and a good scope makes lasering down heads very easy

[meager saffron]

none recoil left beef

[verbal summit]

Pinball machine

[jolly mortar]

Those chargers were playing hot potato and you were the potato.

[junior badge]

anyone up for a bit of divin, <@&1206091872716595200> ?

[modest fiber]

<@&1206091872716595200> welp the TCS is on so its all good, also am once again asking for more dudes

[cobalt patrol]

@junior badge There seems to be a group froming between me/toaster tech and prudentia

though i'm not in voice

[junior badge]

Ah, sorry - when you posted that, a friend had just joined me

so I played with him for a bit

I've really come around on the Sickle - the scope makes it so good at nailing enemies at range and hitting weakspots on bots

if the scythe had the same scope, it'd be amazing

[cobalt patrol]

All good

Yeah, sickle is just a very nice workhorse gun

you really want it coupled with something like the autocannon or recoiless - big oompfy guns that can compliment it well

[barren iron]

I'm playing with a friend and they pressed G to drop the SSSD

and just blew themselves up

while they were the only person alive

[cobalt patrol]

Well

That's really on them

[barren iron]

that was fucking hilarious

[stoic lotus]

having unlocked it last night and tried it properly this morning, I really like the sickle

feels like it does great work against everything you'd want to use a primary on and has functionally limitless ammo

[ionic holly]

I’m honestly addicted to the plasma punisher at this point

Love it more than the actual GL

[stoic lotus]

I unlocked that but haven't tried it yet

what's its niche?

[unreal merlin]

A degree of area CC, the ability to splash around corners by hitting the ground, pretending to be artillery by arcing shots really far.

[ionic holly]

It also oneshots walkers, staggers pretty much anything short of heavies, and can kill chargers in usually one battery if your aim is good

[stone bridge]

Or you can guarantee it with Stuns

:)

[ionic holly]

Fair, I’m just trying to talk about it on its own merits before mentioning synergies

Oh it bullies heavy devastators to a hilarious degree
Cause you can just hit their shield and stun lock them

[unreal merlin]

I think it depends on those synergies to have the most value, as it's fairly unwieldy and hazardous (can't use it at close range safely). Against a single or few targets like devastators it's a decent stagger tool as it throws them around a lot.

Defeating striders is always great.

[ionic holly]

Unwieldy..? I guess

Then again my opinion is skewed as fuck, I run a spear

I’m a master of the games more obtuse weapons

[stone bridge]

It requires a distinct skillset other weapons dont and has quirks you need to learn and work around

That's basically the definition of unwieldy

[ionic holly]

Like said, skewed opinion for me because I basically gravitate to the unwieldy weapons

[unreal merlin]

By unwieldy I mean to emphasize that its projectile arc is kinda weird, I think. I had a lot of times trying to meatshot a devastaor and it just slipped past their arm and torso or something. But yes, that. It's weird to use and you need to go out of your way to practice with it.

[rotund marten]

Plasma shotgun doesn't strike me as a proper GL replacement, not least because it can't clear buildings and takes forever on vents and medium armour even if it stuns them, but it's neat alongside a railgun or Recoilless or something

[cobalt patrol]

bAHAHAHA

eNEMYS CALL IN A BOT DROP

Shame about my 380 barrage

which just perfectly wiped them

[ionic holly]

Oh no it’s absolutely not meant to replace

It’s just a primary afterall

[rotund marten]

the GL also has that arc, you miss non- heavy devs a bit more because it drops just enough to miss their fairly narrow waist rather than hitting them in the side of the chest

[ionic holly]

Shrug
At the end of the day it’s probably my current favorite gun and I’m very excited for the blitzer despite everything I keep hearing

[cobalt patrol]

The blitzer is just wildly unreliable for me

[rotund marten]

Yeah, it's a neat one, I should use it more

[cobalt patrol]

2s or so recharge between firing

when it can ewither kill an entire squad or fizzle

Just not my jam at all

[rotund marten]

haven't got the blitzer yet

[cobalt patrol]

PRetty sure it'll be very shiny in some folks hands, but not mine

currently i am in love with the @stone bridge Special

Sickle/Stuns/Autocannon

[unreal merlin]

It suffers from the dud arc issue same as the thrower which really killed my drive to give it more chances. Every time I need to kill a bug and it just doesn't sticks with me.

[cobalt patrol]

spice with whatever strategmes y ou feel like, though i'm really liking bring a barrage and 500kg for bots

[unreal merlin]

It staggers devastators but by itself isn't especially good at killing them and seemed to do nothing to crowds for me.

[ionic holly]

I’ll admit I’ve heard all this before and it doesn’t really deter me

[cobalt patrol]

The duds on the arc thrower dont bother me (into bots) because it re-fires so fast

you can quickly adjust and get back to normal firing

and vs biots it's such an effective "Fuck every single one of you jerks" tool

[ionic holly]

I heard bad thing after bad thing about the dominator and it was still my favorite weapon on launch

Well before cutting edge, not like I got it day one

[graceful bluff]

It's specifically shit like tall grass that causes that and it's so annoying

[cobalt patrol]

I really like having an arc thrower into the bot team.

[unreal merlin]

The AT for sure can work around the duds better with half-charging that still does oneshots to most of them.

[cobalt patrol]

afaik, charging doenst increase the arc thrwoer's damage

[graceful bluff]

It does

[cobalt patrol]

so the half charge simply is letting you fire it faster

Oh, really? that's... annoying to find out tbh.

[graceful bluff]

basically you full charge once, and then you can just keep firing half charges until you stop firing

and then all of them will be full charge damage

[unreal merlin]

The damage model of the arc thrower is weird and I'd want to see hard numbers to be sure of how it actually functions.

[graceful bluff]

That's how I and many other arc thrower mains best guess in how it works at least

[unreal merlin]

However it works though, half-charges tend to do enough damage to kill Raiders/Scavengers/Hunters in one shot which is by itself awesome.

Full charges are more applicable for popping the bigger stuff, or when you're trying to kill a Charger with it. It works, just takes a bit of time.

[cobalt patrol]

I'm not super fond of it vs bugs because of it's dead zone up close

and would rather just set a fire in (everyones) heart.

[graceful bluff]

it's basically a cone starting from your weapon, so you have to aim down a lot to avoid the deadzone

pranking them with the senator is what I usually do though

it's incredibly fast to fire from switching

[ionic holly]

Senator my beloved

[cobalt patrol]

Where's the old man unoreversing the robgber with the revolver when you need it

[graceful bluff]

the what

[ionic holly]

https://tenor.com/view/call-an-ambulance-callanambulance-butnotforme-gif-19487241

Don’t worry I’m in your head

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone want to spread freedom, democracy, ideals, suffrage, voting, liberty, managed democracy, safety, security, vigilance, affordable all-day breakfasts, and freedom?

[keen zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1u0SAC8kcI

[unreal merlin]

Met my first exploit-using helldiver. This one was using infinite impact grenade spam. It was pretty unfun to play around even when they weren't straight up throwing it at us trying to fight bugs.

[keen zinc]

47537093

[undone veldt]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTLF2N5XC/

[stark ether]

the funny party is because of the falloff hes perfectly fine

[merry cosmos]

Shmorky

[dusty spruce]

Paragon spotted 💪

[wraith furnace]

Last night I decided to play one more Easy match as a send off

Encountered 2 Level 2 cadets

Debated kicking them but then I had a Realization

Packed Eagles, an Autocannon, GL, and a Patriot

Deployed the Autocannon and GL off the bat

Told them to have at it

[modest fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-LRkqzsDT4

[glacial light]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTLF6LrsQ/

Pro tip; You can attach a Tesla turret or mortar and a shield generator to a tank to make it deadlier

[candid finch]

If you put a shield generator on it will it blow itself up when it fires its cannon?

[honest acorn]

Does the hellpod not destroy them?

[candid finch]

I think if they haven't been damaged it doesn't

I know I've hit bile titans before and not killed them outright

[keen zinc]

cannot fucking possibly parse this thumbnail

<@&1206091872716595200> helldiving helldivers helldive into activity 1 for freedom and greater freedom

[merry cosmos]

Is it possible to like helldivers 2 and hate friendly fire

[candid finch]

Yeah

It's a threat not a goal after all

I love the arc thrower but one of the known downsides is friendly fire

[merry cosmos]

I mean blowing someone's brains out with a senior is funny. But not when you have 3 separate bile titans on your ass

[glacial light]

It's iffy but recently I've just spawned from inside the tank the last few time

[tidal wing]

Remap Radio has introduced me to my new favorite phrase: reddit meta sweat lords

[glad marsh]

For those who don't know
Arc throwers arc through dead bodies

So uh
Your fellow diver will remain useful even after you've electrocuted them to death
Or enemy corpses (presumably)

[candid finch]

Neat!

[naive dragon]

Never has my teammate been more valuable

[hot meadow]

Definitely, tho I think becoming cool with occasional accidental friendly fire is probably an important mental health thing in this game lol

[glad marsh]

One thing that does bother me though

There are a lot of 'friendly fire' kills that blame a player who was not at fault

[dusty spruce]

I judged the gas strike too harshly, I love it now

[naive dragon]

It is very normal and good to not intentionally friendly fire your teammates

[oak crow]

yeah

[naive dragon]

Yeah don't trust the kill call-out

[oak crow]

sometimes its just assigned my own name as the killer, even when like, a devastator kills me

so yknow, don't trust anything except for your squadmates

[naive dragon]

I'll see sometimes a players name even as I watch the hulk flamer take me out

[glad marsh]

Yeahhhh

[naive dragon]

Or "unknown" as I get shotgunned by the guy who thought I killed him when it was the mortar turret someone Else put down

[glad marsh]

I've had some people yell at me for that, despite y'know...
Not doing anything

[naive dragon]

Yeah

[hot meadow]

So I unlocked the punisher

I don’t think I really understand this gun

[keen zinc]

its a shotgun

[hot meadow]

The plasma one I mean

Sorry

It’s like a weird grenade launcher thing and I can’t really tell if the damage is good

[unreal merlin]

Plasma Punisher is kind of odd and I think it's best suited as a secondary to a "primary" support weapon like a Stalwart

[merry cosmos]

I need a therapist then

[honest acorn]

The damage is good

[wide mural]

the damage is pretty solid but yeah seconding that you need to almost treat it like a support weapon

[honest acorn]

It's just hard as hell to hit with

[wide mural]

biggest learning curve is the bullet drop

[honest acorn]

Since it has a lot of momentum inheritance and weird bullet drop

[wide mural]

you're not killing like, hunters with it reliably

[honest acorn]

But it'll clear out whole packs of light enemies fast and can 2 shot nursing spewers and such

[burnt vapor]

yeah the impression I've got from it is if you can make it work it works great otherwise it feels kinda mid

[honest acorn]

yeah basically

[wide mural]

it's basically good in a lot of the ways the grenade launcher is good, but trades not bouncing off anything and everything for being harder to aim in general

[graceful bluff]

It needs grenadier sights though

[jolly mortar]

think this is why it's so satisfying to use, for me. it definitely rewards skilled aim in using it. the mild aoe on hit makes you feel like it's meant to be a traditional shotgun where you just pull and fire and whatever's close, but it really wants you to pick your shots with it to maximize the small aoe of that plasma projectile. it's a real interesting gun.

[honest acorn]

It has has a much less flat trajectory than the GL

Which is both good at bad since I've used that to shoot enemies who can't shoot back over a hill

[supple siren]

Grenades -can- bounce off of the angled devastator armor, too. It never doesn't look hilarious

just .25 seconds of critical error that leave a nearby ally a smoldering heap

[wide mural]

I wish I could montage every time I've spotted a grenade ricochet that killed me seconds later

occupational hazard

[kindred lintel]

incendiary grenades encourage foot first targeting, never had this issue

[supple siren]

oh I'm talking about the Launcher grenades

[wide mural]

yeah same

thoomp thoomp thoomp AW HELL

[oak crow]

@keen zinc see you around

[keen zinc]

cya

[ionic holly]

Yknow I get the whole ‘thing’ is that heavy armour is worthless for xyz reason but to be frank?
I’ve died way more often after switch off of heavy armour than wearing it

[blissful sparrow]

you'll take my explosive resistant Heavy armor against bots from my EMP Strike holding hands

[quartz cloak]

Admittedly I feel like that's more the explosive resistance

[keen zinc]

i will wear my light gunner armor till the day they peel it off my corpse

[rapid scaffold]

They'll take my frozen yogurt branded armor away from me the day the sponsorship ends

[supple siren]

I'm dying for a Loadout option, I have many fashions to enjoy

[ionic holly]

I run dynamo so, no actually

Servo assisted limb fucks though

[blissful sparrow]

against bugs i'll take something light and useful. Against bots i want to facetank devestator rockets and laugh

[hot meadow]

I pretty much only run light armor. I just put a shield pack on for bots.

[ionic holly]

Tried to use medium/light on either and it just doesn’t feel right, not to mention feeling like those “just a couple more hits” that heavy gives me are far more valuable than some people think

[hot meadow]

I will have to try heavy armor against bots again and see how it feels

[naive dragon]

Personal experience is you forget explosions exist but the single hit attacks make you feel like a sitting duck

[stoic lotus]

I would definitely like to try some explosive-resistant medium armour but I have yet to acquire any

[naive dragon]

I wanna put on my shock resistant armor and stand in a tesla field

[blissful sparrow]

Diving is still the same speed

[wide mural]

I've got an explosive resist set that's statwise like halfways between medium and heavy and ngl it's my go to for bots

going from light armor to that is like night and day

love light for bugs tho

[stoic lotus]

oh huh where's that from

[wide mural]

was a superstore set, one sec

[rotund marten]

that's what I'm saving up for next, actually

the blast resistant light armour has been good to me in the meantime

[kindred lintel]

running that with the plasma punisher + guard dog

its a beast

[stoic lotus]

that seems pretty sweet

I'm curious to see what the super store rotation will be tomorrow(?)

[quartz cloak]

I'm excited for what sort of shenaniganry Joel will throw at us this Monday

[merry cosmos]

It's yogurt branded

Shit is just un armor

[quartz cloak]

(I say Monday because presumably the studio's out on the weekend for the first time since release I hope)

[ionic holly]

Huh, I should try explosive resistant heavy armour then with my plasma punisher

[cobalt patrol]

I moved away from heavy armor vs bots because i found the lack of mobility kept getting me killed, but like, it's still extremly good

[ionic holly]

Ironically I feel the other way, I’ve not found mobility of much help for me

Specially when I get dragged into 7-8

[dusty spruce]

https://twitter.com/baskinator/status/1769026982539317364

katherine baskin 🧊 (@baskinator) on X

📢 PSA: helldivers ain't on tumblr.

the "helldivers 2" tumblr that uses the word "official" in their bio is not official. it's just some fan blog. idk who they are & their info is kinda sketch.

stay vigilant out there 🫡

Twitter · Mar 16, 2024, 3:44 PM

[cobalt patrol]

@hexed steeple I'm on voice chat if you wanna join!

[honest acorn]

Space for 1 more?

[cobalt patrol]

Sure, i just got kicked? or lagged out from ashely's game? I'm not sure what happened

so i'm not actually in a game at all right now!

[kindred lintel]

ill be on in a bit

[wide mural]

how do I gently break it to my friends that the reason they keep getting overrun is they take almost exclusively support weapons and backpack stratagems

just a solid line of blue

[kindred lintel]

tell them that you cant use both at the same time

[cobalt patrol]

There is a usecase for that

BUT

[wide mural]

yeah not here tho

[cobalt patrol]

it's going Shield/Drone backpack, something like the flamethrwoer or arc thrower, and EAT.

[wide mural]

they'll take like, exosuit, arc thrower, EAT, guard dog and then get stuck in a death loop trying to go reclaim their weapons and samples

[cobalt patrol]

and in that case you're spamming EATs all over the place nad using them for Tank/Hulk/Charger/Titan killing

[kindred lintel]

thats the problem with blue strategems, you need to be alive to use them

red ones are aggressive, and green ones do the work for you

[stoic lotus]

I generally have one slot red, one red or blue, one blue, and one green

two blue is nice to take like a dog and a flamethrower for bugs

[kindred lintel]

it is almost entirely dependant on your primary, imo

[stoic lotus]

and I am emotionally attached to my autocannon turret after it got me to an 80 kill streak

[hexed steeple]

ah im playing with 2 friends off-server rn

[cobalt patrol]

@rotund marten get in 'ere

[rotund marten]

will be just a minute

what's the difficulty?

[cobalt patrol]

Diff 7

[eager pine]

Dropping directly onto an egg hive seems like a great way to waste reinforcements. Fire support is terrible at taking out eggs... Although i guess thats why everyone runs the breaker.

[quick plinth]

counterpoint

500kg bomb

but anyway- should I grab the steeled veterans warbond or wait for the next one? though I imagine by the time the next one comes out I'll have more than enough SC to purchase it by just getting more from playing the game.

the reason I ask is that there doesn't seem to be that many great things featured in steeled veterans

[stoic lotus]

I'd say wait to check out the new super store offerings tomorrow

[hot meadow]

I personally think steeled veterans is skippable.

Cutting edge is better by comparison, with a great booster, one or two really fun guns, and three cool looking armor sets (putting passives aside)

[cobalt patrol]

@honest acorn needs to step their game up.

Accuracy 0.

Shaking my head.

[honest acorn]

Lmfao

[stoic lotus]

lmao what

[graceful bluff]

not even a %

just 0

[stoic lotus]

cyan really said 🙅 🔫

[winged patio]

Bruh I almost pulled off a solo level 5 mission, but I died and then the pod came down but I had 0 control and was dropped directly in front of a Hulk

[glacial light]

Yea I've noticed it's real bad with the TCS maps, I will be thrown to reinforce on the edges of the tower and it will literally steer me through the center of the tower to the other edge and sometimes I'll get stuck

[stoic lotus]

I always get dropped in the inescapable water pits on that map

happened like 4 times

there is a ship upgrade that gives you better pod control when dropping and I want it

[honest acorn]

All beam/arc weapons haha

[stoic lotus]

do they not register accuracy?

[stone bridge]

They have no traditional shot count to record, so they just... don't

[stoic lotus]

you could just do it by % time spent hitting vs not hitting an enemy while being fired

but I guess they couldn't be bothered

[blissful sparrow]

Flamethrower also does not "Shoot"

but grenades are shots

[oak crow]

but by god they can fire

[graceful bluff]

You are required to do firebat quotes while using it though

[quick plinth]

No no

that comes when we get a mech with the flamer

(if but I'm being hopeful)

[glacial light]

Hopefully the mech fireproof

As then rocket and mg mech was not rocket proof to its own rockets at first

[graceful bluff]

The hellbat is the mech one though

[glacial light]

A flamethrower would be fun if it's tankier

[dusty spruce]

The mech is fireproof, from what I heard

you can walk through the fire tornados on hellmire with it

same with napalm airstrike/artillery strikes (the lasting fire, not the strike themselves)

[blissful sparrow]

In HD1 the Flamer mech was Flamethrower/Anti tank cannon which was quite fun

tho really it was just a bit tank cannon mech that just happened to have a flamethrower as a secondary

[dusty spruce]

the flamer was good for dealing with little grots and dogs that got too close so you don't have to waste precious 90mm ammo to kill them

[kindred lintel]

Anyone with notes on how the autocannon and rocket sentry compare? From my testing the ac sentry is just better in nearly every way

[keen zinc]

Rocket sentry has more ammo

That's about it

[graceful bluff]

yeah rocket sentry has more ammo less range

and also don't fire bursts

[dusty spruce]

I've never used it against Bugs, but the rocket sentry on bots tends to waste ammo on dropships

[stone bridge]

It also does way less damage than the Autocannon sentry

[keen zinc]

The rocket also does piss damage

[graceful bluff]

basically rocket sentry is better for areas where you have to defend something

[keen zinc]

No no, it really isn't

[oblique lotus]

rocket sentry is a lot worse against ehavies

[keen zinc]

It's damage is so bad that it's not worth a slot

[oblique lotus]

the autocannon kills things, the rocket sentry doesn't

rocket traverses faster but also the rockets don't really do anything so the actual benefit is minor

[keen zinc]

If the rockets had good splash damage and killed lots of chaff it would be nice

But they don't so it ain't

[merry cosmos]

I feel like the terminids are just going to try and "flank" us because the TCS only covers 4 planets

[graceful bluff]

I mean they don't have space travel :v

[merry cosmos]

Super earth

Spaceships

[cobalt patrol]

Today we learned: Arc throwwers annihilate bile titans

[graceful bluff]

I've been saying that for a week :v

[cobalt patrol]

TOO BAD WE DIDNT LISTEN

[graceful bluff]

if not longer

[rotund marten]

they're pretty good for chargers too, I got one in six shots

[kindred lintel]

how about the new arc blitzer

[cobalt patrol]

More cynical, alas.

[graceful bluff]

doesn't fire fast enough from what I've seen

don't have it yet

[keen zinc]

It also doesn't pen armor

[graceful bluff]

oh it doesn't pen like the arc thrower does?

yeah probably not gonna spend much time with it then combined with how it doesn't, well, arc

[honest acorn]

I was using fire grenades which I don't think record hits

[honest acorn]

It's ok - has medium pen (but not heavy pen like the arc thrower) and does pretty good damage but its inconsistent as all hell and shoots painfully slowly

[graceful bluff]

would double fire rate even save it

[honest acorn]

When it works it works but it often chooses bad targets or splits bolts too much

Double fire rate would make it incredibly good probably

[graceful bluff]

it either needs faster fire rate, or the beams need to bounce

[honest acorn]

I think it just needs the wonky as fuck targeting fixed

It raycasts really weirdly for targets or something

[graceful bluff]

like having each beam bounce to one extra target would help it a lot

[honest acorn]

Small rocks block it for example

It bounces pretty well

I think 4 times

[graceful bluff]

Someone said yesterday it doesn't at all

huh

[honest acorn]

Or at least, its 4 "beams" and they can chain

It's just inconsistent as fuck

But I've seen it chain

[graceful bluff]

and if it's anything like the arc thrower, tall grass blocks the beams

[honest acorn]

it uses the same targeting logic yeah

[graceful bluff]

I wonder if changing the settings so there's less/no grass will help the raycast

[meager saffron]

I think an infinite primary is just an extremely sketch design space for them assuming it works like other arcs

[honest acorn]

It's completely infinite yeah - just has a I think 1.8 second refire time

[meager saffron]

yeah I can see why they would be super conservative

[honest acorn]

But it doesn't animation lock for long so you can shoot - sprint - shoot pretty well to kite

[unkempt river]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for a game or three?

[meager saffron]

I think alongside the laser pistol at the same rank of the pass

[honest acorn]

And passively reloads while holding other weapons so you can shoot - senator shot - shoot

or similar

[meager saffron]

I would also be concerned that people would just run those two and never need to touch resupps

[honest acorn]

Honestly I was running it and the arc thrower and I just needed drugs

And occasionally grenades

[meager saffron]

yeah alongside arc thrower as well

[rotund marten]

big boy arc thrower and lasdrone did an amazing job chunking downright everything

[meager saffron]

lasdrone is also a good point for bugge

so yeah

consistency I'll grant though, rng feelbads shouldn't really be a balancing factor

but arc consistency in general could stand to be tweaked

arc thrower noreg suuuucks

[honest acorn]

I think if it didn't have as many bizarre whiff shots it'll be a solid primary

[graceful bluff]

I fight the noreg by aiming into the sky which helps a bit

[honest acorn]

I really need it to shot blowing up 3 bugs 10 meters away while blithely ignoring the hunter on my head tryna rip my guts out

[graceful bluff]

basically lifting the tip of the gun further up while still having a target in its cone

[honest acorn]

Also yeah the blitzer benefits from aiming above your target

[dusty spruce]

I wouldn't mind if they moved it a little more back towards how it was in Helldivers 1. Where it more shorter just saturated an area in front of you with arc to damage things

[honest acorn]

That's I think what its supposed to do

The range is pretty poor - 30 meters or less and its a hard cap

But it can theoretically catch a lot up close

[graceful bluff]

I really want a slug arc thrower

basically firing a mini tesla tower that does a couple of zaps then breaks

[dusty spruce]

Having some more arc stuff would be neat. At least so that we have more arc weapons than just what were in 1.

Though I will continue to ask often for the return of my glorious Paragon and Rumbler

though I dunno if the Rumbler will still have toxin rounds, since that was an upgrade in the last game

Please I just want a strong indirect fire weapon that isn't a sentry that I swear to super earth is compromised by Automaton AI

[graceful bluff]

I still want a lingering weapon stratagem like a gunship or something

[blissful sparrow]

yeeeeah me too

the Pelican dropping your Exo firing its cannon is alreay great

but i want that as a dedicated strategem

[oblique lotus]

idk how they're going to replicate the unique qualities the rumbler brought to the party

mostly the incredible odds of "oops"

[graceful bluff]

what did it do

[blissful sparrow]

burst fire mortar

[oblique lotus]

the rumbler fired incredibly powerful large AoE shells in three round bursts

you could turn while firing

[kindred lintel]

burst fire handheld mortar

[oblique lotus]

also the shells detonated if they touched anything which included trees, enemies, your friends, spent shell casings ejected from certain weapons, etc

[oak crow]

btw, a bit of advice for machine gun users. i know it sounds silly, but firing in short bursts about as long as it takes you to say “get some!” really helps you not waste ammo.

[blissful sparrow]

But because HD1 was limited to a single shared screen for the entire party, even in online play, everyone was always in range

[oblique lotus]

so it was very easy to accidentally TK

if used correctly however it was one of the best weapons in the game

because it had deep ammo pools, killed anything you pointed it at, and killed buildings very efficiently

[honest acorn]

This is such funny advice because it’s just irl doctrine for machine guns

[oblique lotus]

The words of Gobstikk came back to him from when the Mekaniak had been teaching the young Krukfang how to fly. Long, uncontrolled bursts, the clever Mek had taught him...

[blissful sparrow]

If its worth doing its worth doing in excess

Dakka

[undone veldt]

I’ve had 2 people drop 380 bombardments on the drop location

Genuinely even if it wasn’t inaccurate as fuck that’d still be a bad idea

[oak crow]

i know! i found out when i was doing some research, and tested it out, and it works surprisingly well.

[graceful bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HCS-pLjUl4

[keen zinc]

<@&1206091872716595200> are you stronge enoigh to be freredeom? ha hanghout.

[modest fiber]

am once again requesting for more dudes

[undone veldt]

Nobody looks where they drop stratagems

[modest fiber]

lol

[quick plinth]

i'd join yall but I'm talking with buds I havent for a while sorry

[stark ether]

just a reminder that is not an official helldivers account (still funny though)

[quick plinth]

like its not official

but it's someone that has insider knowledge seemingly

[tiny flume]

How so?

[graceful bluff]

Do be aware that this tumblr isn't actually official

[dusty spruce]

I think she's referring to it having some leaked information on upcoming strategems, but that is mostly because this game has a lot of unreleased content in the game files. People already found the splash art for the warbond coming next month, models of other enemies, etc

[keen zinc]

i am a bird of prey

[dusty spruce]

I do so love the jumppack

[honest acorn]

Oh those are excellent tricks

[glacial light]

What are the tricks to being good with jumpjet

I can't seem to use it well compared to a simple shield

Some may call it a skill issue

[honest acorn]

You gotta be way more cowardly with no shield

[dusty spruce]

Momentum is paramount, getting a running jump or going downhill will launch you a solid distance.
Find a nice rock formation and jump up there and become basically untouchable. It's also a good idea with the arc thrower because it prevents you from melting your teammates eyeballs.

Also mash spacebar/mantle when you are trying to jump onto something, or else you may just stare at the cargo container instead of actually grabbing the damn thing.
And above all, if things are going south, just jump out of there. You are way faster than anything else, especially with the stamina booster. What CYAN said is 100% true

[glacial light]

RIP that all makes sense but I play too stupid to be cautious like that

Maybe it's not for me

I've gone back to shield instead of supply pack cause often I die to stun locks that prevent stims that shields could have prevented so I often don't even get value out if my supply pack

[keen zinc]

you need to be doing cool shit

[dusk agate]

this is the best and most revolutionary take of our times

[dusk agate]

It gets you killed, that's what it is for. Just like every best part of Helldiver kit.

[glacial light]

I have yet found a way to get the shield to kill me

I am petitioning for arc damage to make the shields bigger until it reaches a critical point and implodes everything inside of it

[dusk agate]

I suppose shield kills you because it is taking up the slot that could be a resupply backpack keeping you alive, or a rover that could be shooting you in the head til you die your enemies

[glacial light]

Shield does not kill you may bombarding you with deadly radiation i've been told

[dusty spruce]

Only way I could say the shield can kill you is catching a beacon or making your hitbox bigger

[glacial light]

Actually you're right i've been killed by a supply beacon stuck to my shield

Nothing is safe

[dusk agate]

I love how they have reintroduced Video Game Urban Legends by sheer force of drop rate and fucking with the players

[dusk agate]

Tbh, a thought I haven't seen curculating enough is that Helldivers isn't a power fantasy but a disempowerment fantasy which reinforces its themes much much better

[glacial light]

Explain disempowerment fantasy

[azure pewter]

<@&1206091872716595200> DEEEE Deeee deeee DOOOOOOO duhhhh DUHHHHHH

[glad marsh]

I like to think it falls into the "being an active part of the bigger picture" fantasy

But I get what you're saying

You're just one of millions of others just like you, instead of a super powerful protagonist

And your death is ultimately meaningless, you'll just be replaced

[dusk agate]

As opposed to an "Empowerment Fantasy", where the player feels cool and badass and empowered. A disempowerment fantasy is one in which the story that is being told through the flavor and the mechanics isone of loss of control and disempowerment.

For example: Lethal Company, or running from critters in Amnesia: Dark Descent

[glacial light]

It's like a powerful grunt fantasy, a single helldiver has a lot more power at their disposal than any bug or automaton equivalent but ultimately you're no one special

Like playing a clone trooper

[ionic holly]

Oh so the same reason why folk like clone trooper games?

Or at least one of them?

Oh I’m

… my apologies

I didn’t see that second part

[dusk agate]

BABA BUM ba bAAa bummmmmmmmmmmmm

[meager saffron]

VWAA VWAAAAAA

[glacial light]

If I had to name it i'd theme it around "elite" or "spec op" cause you're not John call of duty protagonist but you're no shmuck cause you're taking down lots of enemies

Lethal Company i'd say is a disempowerment fantasy as described above, you're literally worth $5

[dusk agate]

Oh, for sure, I just think of it as a disempowerment fantasy because, especially as you ramp the difficulty to match your pace, it is a game about being under intense stress and losing control

[ionic holly]

Instead of being John GunMan

You’re just John from super Florida

[glacial light]

I simply do not play higher levels so I feel important

[meager saffron]

@dusk agate can you read the code out again

[ionic holly]

I hop around at random difficulties, usually 4-6 but sometimes I’ll hit 8

[quick plinth]

I'm trying to do 9s consistently

[vestal trail]

Little known fact: using the Jump Pack costs Stamina, so if you're bottomed out on Run Juice you only get Baby Jumps

[stone bridge]

<@&1206091872716595200> who up

[unkempt river]

I am.... but I am at work T^T

[cobalt patrol]

THE PENGUIN RISES

[stone bridge]

Gonna grab water and be there shortly

[shy prairie]

i could dive

[junior badge]

anyone else up for a second group of divers?

[quick plinth]

for some reason it says that the blitzer is always empty and that I should switch to a different weapon

[quick plinth]

I'd be up for it

[stoic lotus]

I can in 15 mins

[stoic lotus]

aight I'm around

[candid finch]

https://twitter.com/SkyJacc/status/1769191549521301687?t=d1wkVdMA7GyyhtPUU6wDXw&s=19

Jacc 🌸 (@SkyJacc) on X

Bocchi The Helldiver!

#Helldivers2 #BocchiTheRock

Twitter · Mar 17, 2024, 2:38 AM

[junior badge]

awesome!

I'll kick the randos that joined and then lets run!

[stoic lotus]

cool lemme get ingame

[shy prairie]

i'm commiting to the bit

[stoic lotus]

get back in here you

[junior badge]

are you not a staunch supporter of managed democracy?!

[stone bridge]

Superstore rotation is the ultralight servo-assisted armour and the medium engineering kit

[cobalt patrol]

Awww, butts

I figured out why my stream wasnt working

it's because twitch dosent fucking accept HDR footage

so i can either stream

or havem y footage look pretty\

Cleary, there's only once choice

I ahve to become... a youtuber

[wind arrow]

was wondering, does youtube streaming accept HDR footage?

since streaming there actually makes archiving easier (they are done automatically)

[stone bridge]

and aren't deleted

[oblique storm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDmqre33wJ4

[cobalt patrol]

I belive it does. I'd need to sit down and figure out streaming on youtube though