#Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!
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š Super Earth's finest
firing control is your friend, honestly.
A truly elite force
Yah but at that point Iād rather just use single or burst shot weapons
And save automatic for my mag dumping my auto pistol
I really should use FP more yah
so's the sickle tbh
most wepaons benefit from FPS aiming accuracy wise
but you lose a lot of situational awareness
Slugger is like a DMR with it's scope
Same difference
not really because I can't zoom and snipe
Maybe you can't
Little marker on the very center
I have never used a zoom option, I don't aim
Me, every time i try to grab supplies
yeah
Every time
keeps happening to me too
since I'm on controller and sprint is toggle
if I were using M&KB sprint is by default hold
though I switched it to double tap toggle
oh man
I wonder if there will be mods
i frequently do it when engaging, as it allows me to get a good headshot (and therefore a guaranteed kill without too many shots fired)
There are already mods. The leaks are so widespread partially because there were straight up nexus mods that swapped around strategems (for example, replacing the Stalwart with the Walker mech to get it early). Most of the things there are just reshades, however
Good thing they got literally the worst anticheat in the industry though!
honestly I just want some FPS reticle mods
You shoot at the general diction of the enemy and let Gork and Mork sort it out?
so I can swap them out with something that will always show up- never pixelate on me and looks cleaner (because half the reticles have a bunch of useless elements)
Honestly yeah, at least let me change the color for NEON GREEN so I can see the crosshair in the middle of the chaos
I just hate that almost everything has a dot sight
I do actually do first person with slugger
Sniping rocket devastators
It only needs one zoom, the best zoom
Yes, and yes I mained breaker
I mean it makes sensw that most things have a red dot, however I wish we could have more of an open sight for shotties and such or at least be able to reduce the size of the dot
works surprisenly well with Breaker
i just really want an iron sight for the Liberator
Me when Breaker Spray&Pray
I never thought I'd see the day of yandere turrets https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTLNDhTbQ/
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I would love the breaker spray and pray if I had one
I just unlocked it today
hm. The sickle feels terrible to me. Doesn't do that much and overheats so so much faster than the scythe.
What am I missing?
Though now I'm taking a break because every TCS mission I do is getting drowned in biles
fire in bursts, prioritize chaff
I see. Alright, I can try.
Also, new bug: Operation only shows one mission instead of two, Democracy Officer talks about how it is complete - but it isn't -.-
I've been slowly enjoying the arc grenade thing, forgot the name
Takes some getting used to
Plasma Punisher
Always aim for weak points, it has functionally zero recoil, and use first person aiming if you have to - it has no muzzle flash so its unnerringly accurate
Hipfire is also really accurate since there's barely any recoil to amplify
The sickle is I think a kind of mid gun with infinite ammo
I think there's some with like 50 and 64
While the scythe is a freak if you hit weak spots
Anyone wanna dive some hells, get me up some levels?
I find the Sickle a whole lot easier to use for attacking weak points TBH
Have had MUCH more success using vs everything than the Scythe.
I'm honestly amazed, the Sickle feels like the best weapon in the game
It definitely has higher DPS than the Scythe.
I don't think the Sickle is outperforming literally everything, but its a generically good workhorse weapon
sickle feels like an excellent weapon to pair with something like a medium or heavy machine gun or grenade launcher, whereas for laser cannon, autocannon or some form of rocket you want something more beefy
since it has to shoulder more of the burden of clearing meat if the special weapon is in fact specialist
I like it with the GL, since when piles of guys show up you can blow them to bits with the grenade launcher and swapping to the GL to put out a round or two gives the heatsink time to cool down
it is huge
I equipped it thinking I was going to get a neat little laser SMG and I ended up with one of those drone-jamming guns
huh, I just got a priority alert, Heeth System under attack
anyway, gotta try the sickle some more
since it really is a mop-up weapon I kind of wish it was discreetly sized
having my personal defence pew pew laser be bulkier than the automatic grenade launcher is wierd
I'm still figuring out what i think of it, but it is good
I haven't given it a real workout yet, how's the cool-off time?
I tried it briefly but that was on a hot planet where all laser cooloffs are pain
The Scythe eventually clicked for me when I realized you use it to snip off limbs and kill with limb damage
Same.
Especially vs bugs it has incredibly high effective DPS when employed well
I never liked it but that's probably because I am really a burst fan in this game
It's tricky for me to do consistently since console aim but I've killed brood commanders in like a second with it
slugger and punisher being able to just blam stuff appeals to the monkeybrain
snip snip snip
slugger has an incredibly short brood commander kill time but only half of what you think is the head actually does headshot damage
the rest of it is like a big bony frill that isn't vital or something
two shots to the jaw does it
Yeah its great for that
I just finally got it
And I'm like 50 medals away from the lightning shotty
I need to get into the new warbond
I have 90 medals left in the main one and I'm literally maxxed
i just need 700 supas for the new warbond, then its all good
but I can come back to that after I've got the plasma punisher and the insulated light armour
ahh the deadspace method
I love that dead space damage is a thing in helldivers
This is a stark contrast to my own experience, it evicerates whatever I point it at
Sickle looks sick but unfortunately the laser accurate aim and practically recoil does nothing for me as I cannot aim
lol
I struggle with the slugger and I only have to aim and click once
The sickle feels basically like a liberator which has quasi-infinite ammo and a spin up time to me
Which isn't a knock the liberator is lowkey really good
It honestly feels like a very light Stalwart in some ways
Oh the liberator is staggeringly underrated
basic liberator is one of my favourite weapons, it's really good
yeah, if you know how to manage your recoil control the basic liberator is great
Haven't tested the cool-off time, but assuming you're riding the line as hard as possible, Sickle gets 7 seconds of continuous fire, 6 on Hot Planets, 8 on Cold Planets
I think liberator recoil isn't too tough to manage but I also use the knight, which kicks like a mule
Someone uses the Knight? Wild
you press left click and your entire magazine is gone and also you're looking directly up
I love it, its so goofy
The Knight is just a really big Redeemer
s'good for when you want something in your face gone
which Warbond should I get between the two? I've got 1010 SC burning a hole in my pocket
it also has the one handed benefit of being able to walk away while firing
I don't even know what's good in the steel veterans one besides maybe the boosters?
Or if you're a fan of throw armor
I'd argue the new one is more worth it. the first premium pass is alright but doesn't have a ton that's like, great. besides the revolver maybe.
I honestly think you can skip Steeled Veterans unless you really want the medium throw armour
You can get an ultralight one in the superstore rotation
it has cool drip but I haven't really rated any of the other stuff
dominator is a worse slugger/scorcher
Breaker incendiary is pretty damn good
What boosters come with steel veteran
One, and its awful
a worse version of the +reinforcements one from the main warbond
faster reinforcement recharge š
RIP
the pistol is good from it
You get a whole 10% CD off your final reinforcement recharge
is the dominator veterans or free?
So -12 seconds
Senator has deceptively good AP for a light pen weapon
veterans
Assuming you hit dead on
Veterans
glad to see arc thrower safety armor when arc thrower stonks are so high
I like slugger better than dominator
Imagine a group of arc armor with arc throwers just shooting each other to extend the arc
Never shoot a single enemy
dominator feels like it has better control imo but very much a subjective thing
Kill everything still
Steel Vet pass has the Incendiary grenade, which i find occasionally useful against bugs
oh yeah, I really like the firebomb
senator is good, but I personally found impacts obsoleted the firebomb once I discovered I could kill chargers with them easily
I really like them for tossing on a bug breach and frying them as soon as they pop out
I've only used Stuns for a short time but I've been seriously impressed by them
Definitely a competitor to Impacts
do they blow bug holes if you chuck them in?
I actually never tested if smokes did that
They don't, but I think they're good enough anyway
You can always take a GL or Autocannon if you still need to blow up holes and factories
being able to break up sightlines for heavy devastators especially is really valuable
interesting you say this because half the reason I run impacts is so I can panic-kill heavy devs
possibly stunning them is just as good, if the area is a bit wider
Stun grenades work on hulks and chargers in addition to devastators and everything else, freezing them for a handful of seconds. You can easily use that time to line up a weakpoint kill on a Hulk.
yeah stuns are nutty
Or just buy time for an ally to circle around and hit the back
Stuns rock, which is why the goto cc primary the liberator concussive is one of the best weapons in the game :v
Do stuns still destroy outputs and nests?
I keep making the mistake of going 'oh is it really that bad?' and using it again and realising that yes, it is
This person has been doing some banger stuff with helldivers. Little audio dramas. 10/10 highly recommend it
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4bhaM4O9fS/?igsh=MXBzcTU2a2JxcmZ3eA==
Oh I see we goin back to Heeth
any divers need a fourth?
If it was like⦠50% itād be useful imo
Maybe 60-75% even
Yeah lol
Oh?
How does it work?
also, Thinking: Sickle + Railgun + Stuns should be a great b ot combo
It seems to make groups of enemies call for breaches/drops less frequently
Iām not really sure
I just know you get less of them
Having played more with the sickle, it feels very similar to the p-19. Which is decent.
I think it'll be interesting with the grenade pistol and stuns - use the support weapon as the main tool for killing, nades for CC, pistol for explosions and the sickle as your "oh shit" weapon.
Stuns are pretty good
As baby new player, what level of mission should I be going on?
Not being able to close bug holes or bomb fabs sucks but itās so good for emergencies
we are looking for 1
1 for solos 3-4 with people
Once you have eagle air strike and RR/EAT/AC/flamethrower you can technically do anything
RR/EAT/AC being?
Recoiless Rifle
Recoilless Rifle, Expendable Anti Tank, Autocannon
IMO the highest difficulty you can feasibly manage is ideal because the payouts scale a lot
This amuses me mainly for the phone code being arrows.
also @tiny flume a lot of us will happily carry you/throw you into high diff missions because we're Sickos.jpg
go EATs first I think it will be easier for someone new
and even a low level player can contribute a ton
I might call on folks to help me run later
Yeah getting soft carried through 7s is how I got most of my strats quickly
I think I like the sickle more than the scythe
Partner is not feeling too well so I don't want to commit to anything I can't jump out of
I think the scythe does somewhat more damage to weak points but the sight on the sickle is way better and it does enough damage to weak points
And especially with the current enemy mix even a really low level player can contribute a lot with the machine gun
it can burn out a heavy devastator head in like 2-3 seconds of continuous fire
A scoped scythe would be goated
And it can achieve that continuous fire well due to having both a light scope, and a recoil of '1'
My biggest complaint with the Scythe despite its obvious aptitude for slicing weakspots is that it takes too much time exposed to actually do that. In the time it takes to fzzzzzzt a Devastator's head it's already either hit or had enough of a near miss that it ruins my accuracy.
I think its better vs bugs
I have a different issue in that case because it too-often doesn't meet the TTK needed to actually clear even small bugs. I dunno if that's a matter of "I should be using a different support weapon for more general purpose clearing" but I have had a lot of underwhelming experiences vs bugs too.
Either way, I'm staunchly on Team Sickle. Very good workhorse.
How do I get SCs past the helldivers mobilize requisition warbonds, other then buying them
You can find them at points of interest, usually friendship doors and explodey containers
You loot them from POIs in missions.
Ah thanks
the blinky beams of light is an easy way to find them at range
There's also buried cargo containers in some poi's you can break open for 2 pieces of loot, be it medals, credits, supercreits, or samples
As a HD1 vet I'll say Cutting Edge. The Sickle is back and still fucks.
Doing a radar tower sub-objective will reveal all points of interest on the map which have a chance to have super credits. Good thing to check out of you spot one
I think the thing with the Sickle is its not winning any awards for having insane DPS, being able to kill unique targets or anything like that
Its just a really dependable weapon
doesnt have the same range as the liberator
liberator on semi auto is a marksman rifle
I think realistically it does have more range - the Sickle lacks any kind of muzzle flash and it makes it super easy to actually stay on target
Whereas even on burst, the recoil and flash of the Liberator makes a mess of things
i like that the sickle has the spin-up because it's the closest thing we'll get to a primary minigun
It has better range for sustained fire but the liberator has crazy good ballistics on semi auto
I wouldn't be surprised if we get a handheld minigun at some point, maybe as a backpack weapon
If you're using the Liberator on semi auto your DPS is in the gutter, though
i'd like to see a primary flamethrower tbh
The Stalwart is excellent
As just. A bullet hose. I canāt see us getting a primary that does that.
Anyone fw the lightning shotty yet?
you mean "democracy per second?"
The plasma punisher is filling a spot in my heart
A shit handling gun with some great potential
Needs practice, more than the regular grenade launcher
Ammo is NOT rounds reload btw, mags of 8, 11 spares
Yeah has 104 shots
I really hated it when I first tried it
I think I may have called it āthe worst gun in the gameā in voice that even
But Iām coming around on it
Vs bots anyway
Really hard to use vs bugs because of the splash
Yea its very off putting, especially the fact that if you are moving left/right while firing it curves the shot (Im not playing the binding of isaac here game)
I started using the medium explosive resist armor and the las dog
Las dog deals with closer targets first it seems to do the trick
The Plasma Punisher is one of those Primaries that thinks it's a Support weapon and borderline is; deffo a weapon that will have its space change as we get more Secondaries
Thereās 4 now at least
I think theyāre all pretty decent
(From what I heard - have not used the Dagger yet)
I think the Plasma Punisher is wild good into bugs actually
It one shots warriors, two shots hive guard, two to three shots nursing spewers
You can take better advantage of the AoE since bugs have higher numbers
You just need to watch your spacing
If you do get mobbed, swap to your secondary or throw a stun at your feet
The stun opens up a world of options, especially as a panic option
The Dagger is, almost literally, half a Scythe in your pocket. It's got 3 spare ICE, hits hard enough to cleave through chaff like Scavs (haven't used it against Bots), can (somewhat inefficiently) punch up into stuff like Warriors, and can fire for around 5-6 seconds before overheating.
My current take on it from using it is it provides a dedicated option to cut through weak stuff to leave your primary for more chunky targets
"Exchanges your standard Helldiver sidearm with a compact flamer. Though it is as powerful as the FLAM-40 Incinerator, it has much shorter range and very limited ammunition. The upside is that you are always carrying a flamer for when you need to turn up the heat. Part of the Pistol Pack." - Armory Description
I wonder if they'll bring this back
sounds like the kind of weapon that would work well with a low ammo primary like the scorcher, then
Who <@&1206091872716595200> wants to play diff 6-7
i'll join in a bit!
7831-3495
I too can join
oh damn
how are you 1-tapping warriors? they just shrug them off when i shoot them in the head/below them
I just direct hit them with the projectile and they fell down
I can test it again when I get home
But I went to bed before I could do any rigorous multi mission tests last night
interesting yea, cause i was reliably having to two tap them
maybe if they were close to one another/damaged a little
Maybe this is another PS5 player bug lmao
The damage seems weird and inconsistent
Iāve had it hit in weirdly variable numbers of hits
@fleet jacinth @night crater yall there?
Yes
Interesting
<@&1206091872716595200> are there folks around for a second squad?
I can prolly play a bit
cool, I'm in SSC
so what determines if we have inbuilt strats?
Iāll be a few mins, making hot choc
Joel, the game master
this time around they gave us 110s to finish off the last two planets
before when we liberated tien kwan they gave a single use mech (the regular one has 2 uses)
oh its just arbitrary?
yup, whatever might be thematic
alright
The first one was EMS strike
Actually it was the Railgun
Which I think definitely contributed to its popularity lol
Is the free 110 affected by the Eagle upgrades?
Yes, and shares a rearm with any other Eagle stratagems you may bring.
exceptional
alright. the sickle may not do mindblowing damage, but it's dependable as hell. that accuracy and the ability to hold down the trigger for longer makes such a difference in a pinch.
The sickle is an assault rifle with theoretically infinite ammo
unrelated: I've been sleeping on the airburst for bugs
the cooldown sucks but it's real damn useful on a horde or a nest
unfortunately you can't take rocket pods along with the 110
still only gives you three uses
Recently I've been running airburst + orbital Gatling barrage, they're really good and the cooldown are quite low
The free Rocket Pods are not affected wholey by upgrades, actually; doesn't gain the Extra Leg Space benefit at least
I find Airburst is great if you need to hold a narrow space or a choke
Eagles perform poorly there if you don't take Strafing Run
i like gas more, doesn't get angled by the map
I really need to not look at Helldivers content on YouTube
Just clickbait garbage everywhere
Curse of popularity be upon ye
also this. they're pretty useful for controlling pathways up to an extract zone.
cant people let others enjoy the thing?
hisssss. I hate that stuff. Esp because I just love good in depth discussion of games and game content, but that's not what happens with clickbait
All seriousness, depends on the thing. There's some authors I will absolutely have a go at People for supporting, as an example.
yeah, there are exceptions
Us Thirstdivers are losing
okay but they're T4T
NOOOOOO
@honest acorn I definetly feel like the booster has made those Diff 9 missions much more doable
we had like what
5 maybe 6 breaches that data upload one?
That sounds right
It was hard to tell because we were also getting the nearby base bugs
But yeah it was no more than 6-7 breaches
when usually it would be an eldess horde of breaches
It seems very strong
I think itās in a similar tier to stamina improvement
Yeah it was hectic but not as bad as it has been
Iāve had 8s which were worse without it
Tbh the hardest part of that one was the fucked up map
(For those wondering it was extremely icey, had like 10+ dud hellbombs scattered about, and was āC-shapedā with a huge lake
Extraction was only accessible with a narrow isthmus
Hm, well, the Blitzer sure is The Gun of All Time
Iāve only used it a little but it feels pretty good
I wish the fire rate was a little higher
I understand it not being able to shoot across the map, but the hard limit of 30 meters feels really tight to me
Oh shit it reaches 30 meters?
<@&1206091872716595200> who here is up for some helldiving?
I was basically zapping bugs at 0-10 haha
depending on how this run I'm in goes, I may join
Yeah mood that was stress
Yeah, hard range limit of 30 meters, whether it chains beyond that (if at all) is inconclusive
Every extract being after the time was up was stressful
But pulling off a 4 strong extract after playing at 0 reinforcements for 10 minutes was actually so goated
It also can and will just ghost fire like the Arc Thrower if there's even a box between you and your intented target
Theyāre right
honestly besides Hunters I like all the bugs
they're really fun to fight and not that annoying
Hunters are satisfying to kill but get off me
I really hate it when a hunter jumps on me for 50% damage
Some kind of headshot or crit thing
Really rough
This is legit the best thing i have ever seen. 10/10 best relationship in the canon made funnier by the fanon depictions of Pelican being dense around Eagle
Any way you read it its either wholesome or downright hilarious
I unlocked mech and a bunch of stuff on the first two pages of the new thingy
Iām thinking my new bug loadout for now will be railcannon, autocannon, EAT, and Mech, with the new las
The mech causes me great loadout pain. I want to use it, but I also want to use like, guard rover and a support weapon and an EAT and throw orbitals and and and
Smart game design tbh, keeps me shuffling it up - barring the EAT which I think may never leave my loadout again
Keep in mind the tumblr blog seems to be of the (unofficial) official kind
like the OSHA blog
Ok hear me out
Are you sure?
https://www.tumblr.com/helldivers-2/744685328630202368/if-you-have-support-related-questions-or-questions
Blitzer Rover
Does blitzer chain?
Yes to I think 4 targets
Then oh boy blitzer rover sounds like a blue-on-blue machine
You brought your arcproof armor right :^)
Holy shit I fucking love the new punisher
This is my favorite gun
seemd that way to me
does it go boom effectively enough to kill nests?
No
since the discord is like 40 people
Itās anti personnel not anti building
OK, grenade launcher remains best girl
It can kill walkers on direct impact though
but I am absolutely looking forward to plas punisher
Crying in my arcproof armor as my health keeps repeatedly ticking down, feeling the inevitable approach of death as rover shoots another light bug approaching me
I assume the pilot dies from the explosion
Itās kind of like a mildly shittier grenade launcher which can hit over blockages much better and has more than 100 shots
Which is a pretty good primary
arc armor should probably just be an immunity
potentially fun with machine gun, then
See the thing is I run a spear because Iām the only person of my team who believes in anti armour
unless there are a ton of arc idiots yet to be seen
I ran it with autocannon vs bots and it was good
Itās functionally immunity for everything except the Tesla tower
You take like 1 pixel of damage from everything else
Mhm
From what Iāve heard you can basically use teammates in arc armour as conduits to spread the arc
Yeah you can hang out near your Tesla to extend its range
Since you only take about 10% damage
We are the range buffs
I canāt wait for the shock jock meme squad of all arc armours, all arc throwers, all blitzers
Probably with EMS too since theyāre vaguely electrical
Plas Punisher has 8 rounds per mag and 12 RESERVE MAGS
And a pretty average reload too
I have gotten pretty good at murdering chargers with impact grenades and the GL, or a stun nade, walking behind them and emptying a mag of scorcher ammo into the behind
but biles I leave to strats and other people, yes
Yeah but bile- beat me to it
I'd run the Spear if it ever fucking locked on to anything I pointed it at
I have not figured out how to bounce GL grenades into them
Iāve basically become the HVT killer of the groups I play with
Probably why no one else really bothers to learn it cause Iām there
Yeah spear needs some convincing but when it works it works
Which mercifully for me is most of the time
Also having a āfuck you random factory a mile outā option is very nice
Specially after they fixed the ammo pickup
I still feel it may need a damage buff, but yeah when it works it's damn beautiful, especially against Bots
I disagree, it one shots anything to the head/weakspot
What more damage do you need beyond one shot?
That's the thing, it needs to hit the weakpoint
Which kind of defeats the point of a lock-on
Even then, anything else comes down in 2
Titans are the only thing Iāve seen live a second one
And frankly titans are
Really easy to headshot with it
Pull aggro, lock, send that fucker straight to socialist hell
Looking a bit more into it, I'm not sure, I but I think it isn't official
Regardless, if itās not for you itās not for you, no harm in that
Point is it kinda does a shit load of damage as is, all I could really ask for is maybe some more consistency to lock
They also tend to answer asks with somewhat of a tone that suggests actual inside baseball and not just posing
Honestly the thing that made me click with the spear was one simple thought
āIf itās named the spear, I should be facing the opponent in intend to stabā
I basically just joust any heavy I kill with it
Eg:
https://www.tumblr.com/helldivers-2/744959227199700992/will-there-be-more-regular-warbonds-or-is-the?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/helldivers-2/744958959853748224/would-you-guys-ever-consider-adding-stratagem?source=share
https://www.tumblr.com/helldivers-2/744940957313777664/if-fire-subverts-bug-armor-and-electricity?source=share
It is official
https://www.tumblr.com/helldivers-2/744240058558824448/is-this-the-actual-official-helldivers-2-tumblr?source=share
Is this the actual official helldivers 2 tumblr?! That's very democratic of y'all!
OFFICIAL? ā
TUMBLR? ā
People can lie on the internet, obviously, but this person has had consistent inside knowledge about things
TBF that one is also what a poser would say, but the other posts make them seem legit
Yes
Loaded into a mission, and over the course of the mission: loaded in to find out the team had gone to the second objective instead of one you had to do first, one guy left when we got to the first objective, one was running around the map popping bug holes on his own, another was hunting for samples after we did the second objective, and I, the new squad leader had to wait for both of them to die to force-respawn them on the objective to get going because we had 15 minutes left.
I felt like a babysitter trying to corral unruly toddlers.
bloody hell
Re: the Blitzer, 30 meters seems pretty bloody good for a weapon classified as a shotgun
Have you seen the other HD2 shotguns? That's pretty consistent
truly a good one
neat
Im saving to try it
pretty hyped to get hands on with it
meanwhile the plasma one is
meh?
like its not bad
but it takes getting used to
sickle is my fav out of the warbond so far
sickle might be my new go-to primary
Plasmaās is my personal favorite
as long as you figure out how to counteract its downsides, it's a damned good gun
Granted I realize part of that was due to my usage of dominator, both can kill or atleast wound ya if you shoot an enemy thatās too close
people don't seem to like the dominator much
Itās an acquired taste, definitely a bot weapon
like the sorcher?
One shot headshots devastators and below
Donāt think I have the scorcher
Oh and most raiders it typically one shots to the chest too
Keyword typically
It can also destroy walkers, if needs must, 3 or so shots to the joints
Sorcher is the last primary in the free warbond, it usually onehits raiders, and the register on target is much louder than the firing sound
so its perfect for picking off raiders
Fair, yeah donāt have it
I think the plasma punisher is the new sicko weapon
||off topic but annoying when I forget to switch off of bot weapons when jumping into a bug mission lol||
Sicko in what way?
Where if you like it you LOVE it
But if you donāt like it you probably think itās bad
Oh no absolutely
I'm trying the punisher now
Itās so weird to use
Itās a shame for the devs that Iām That Fucker who will find the weird or niche weapons and make them look great
Took me like 2 missions to dial in my aim
indeed it is very annoying when I accdentllay bring a weapon with 15 rounds per mag that doesn't even oneshot hunters reliably (scorcher)
I want to try the Plasma Punisher more because I think it can cook real good actually
When I first used it I thought it was trash
A mission or two later and fighting bots instead I was able to wipe whole patrols with it before they could flare
Dominator constantly shit talked as an awful weapon? Sweet thatās my bot weapon of choice
Spear being misunderstood despite its frankly absurd capability (mind you I picked it up pre bug fix)? Nuh uh
Plasma punisher getting dogged on? Nah not in my house
My loadout likely pops someoneās blood vessel
Heavy armour, plasma punisher, senator, stun nade
Back then it was
Now itās not
Its a weapon Iāve learned the quirks of
It makes me worry Iāll lose the spark I have with it if they do buff itās lock on consistency
It's what it needs
Shrug
Iāve been getting through difficulty 7-8 missions the very rare times I run it due to it
Granted Iāll be honest due to my main groups lack of AT our support buddy ends up sticking with me feeding me rockets constantly
But hey if the titans and chargers are down whoās gonna complain?
but thatās more likely personal experience with the weapon
Would be nice if it were more beginner friendly
Apologies if I ever come across as brash or uncaring by the way, I know my tone can be off to a lot of folk
I do think the spear could use a little consistency but itās cool that youāve managed to figure out its quirks
what is the plasma punish niche?
Splash damage, very effective against medium armour units
Can even kill chargers/hulks
As with the real javelin it requires great familiarity with the controls
Jokinā
So Iām not the only one whoās noticed that huh?
Iāve noticed if I hit a chargerās abdomen with it they seem to die about⦠5~ shots? Give or take?
Yeah, which is nuts for a primary
Absurdly
But itās ease of use is
Very low
So I doubt itāll get nerfed too hard, if it does
plas punisher looks like it will give me the fighting lion dopamine
I stole someone's plas punisher and it was like seeing that reticle all over again
the toob

All it needs is a more satisfying reload sound
But that pump sound is hardly any bad
My favorite part is Iāve learned the dumbest technique for it
If Iām in too bad of a spot, I pop stim and hit an enemy thatās just a bit closer, not arms reach mind you, but close enough to launch me away
oh my god you're right you can blast jump with it
doing this with gems was my favourite strat
No matter the game, I will find a way to explosive jump
Though, gems? Dunno that one
Cover!
Not cover, gosh darn it
clever
Heh, it happens
Listen those smoke shrooms arenāt always gonna be around
Sometimes you make your own escape velocity exit
never intentional but always funny
cluster bomb deflects suddenly turn you into a game of AA[...]AAA
Ah! I think I understand now
Thatās fair
Aināt a gun for everyone
Mostly cause arrowhead did openly mention that premium weapons werenāt gonna be absurdly strong a ways back
Wanted to avoid the game feeling like actual pay to win
Which hey if you think on it tracks, the main things that come to mind for absurdly strong weapons is stuff like the breaker slugger punisher, all stuff in the free warbond
<@&1206091872716595200> I need medals and Super Creds for the new bond. Who's with me?
I'm online
just uh. need to find where the hell I left my mic.
bedroom, for some reason.
but yeah I'm on
There's a very obvious joke there that I shall not make
Lmao
i'm up in a bit
just in IPS-N whenever you wish to join
aye aye
Already got 4?
Okay I don't think the Plasma Punsiher can oneshot warriors (maybe) but it cleans up groups of them real nice
i think you'll be fourth, niles
yeah, we got room for one more
Just got off the game and into bed, first post I read is āteleported to the last game you playedā
yāalls Iām screwed
my only other option is fuckin balatro
it's either this or dark forces lol
The slugger is fun but it doesn't really handle like I want it I think in the end. Need something a little faster to clear enemies.
This or fallout
based
dota
lmao i'm literally sitting next to a table with a box of arkham horror waiting to set up and play the last run in vanilla box
this is day 2 of me getting the box out...
Ooh briar if you like LCGs try out Earthborne Rangers
I seriously can't make the plasma punisher work
like it just feels so bad to use
and it's frustraitng me
cuz I see the potential
just how much the ammo drops
and I guess its inability to engage close enemies which limits its use against bugs, even though the fact it's AoE seems to be making it geared TOWARD fighting bugs
this blitz mission we're in is going great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAJB6HsYiNA
Music video by Boots Randolph performing Yakety Sax (audio). (C) 2016 Sony Music Entertainment
@stone bridge (sorry I wasn't sure if you were gonna see it)
drops in the sense- arc
The bugs things I think is a bit overstated in the sense that you can use your secondary to kill stuff that gets on you, or drop stuns if you have them
It pairs well with the MG or Stalwart for that same reason
man i kinda wish the penetrator gets more rounds per mag
if it had like, one more burst it'd feel a little better I think
It's not a good weapon yeah
the penetrator can be good, but like. I think it needs some tuning to get there.
I enjoy using it, but after a bit I have to put it down because it can be kinda frustrating
i mean probably i partially need to pay more attention with aim
Oh yeah it can be but I think it's severely mid right now
you do need to be like crack-on with your aim, yeah. but I also agree it needs more rounds per mag.
I can agree with that too, I just think it only needs a slight damage bump. too much and I can see it turning into another breaker situation, esp if they do a clip-size buff too.
when it's competeing with the regular penetrator and stuff like the scythe and sickle
it's a bit
mid af
yeah like. now that I have the sickle I just straight up won't pick the lib-pen.
yeah the Sickle is really the workhorse of all time
I don't even think its overpowered
It just does what you want a shootgun to do
Consistently
yeah. it doesn't need either a nerf or a buff because it's just a really damn good jack of all trades.
yeah ive been seeing posts like
Plasma punisher will have to be pried out of my cold dead hands
Yeah like
This shit is part of why the breaker got nerfed
It got overhyped, people got too gungho to cram it into a dull ass meta, then it got, frankly, a slap on the wrist
It's still hugely good
Thatās the big thing too like, some folk act like the nerfs neutered what they touched when in reality⦠not really
Railgun is worse off but weāve already got so many alternatives
also they did nerf armor to compensate later down the line
so the nerf to the railgun isn't resulting in chargers t-bagging our corpse
the 20% less ammo per mag and therefor also reserve does make it so you need to be more conservative, but it still does its job, just not all other jobs too
and even pre-charger and honestly railgun nerf the autocannon and recoilless still held it down pretty well
I still canāt get over that charger t-bagging hades
that charger hit the griddy on hades' corpse
I honestly got on range and locked it out of SPITE
Iāll admit I do worry if stuffs gonna get blown out of the water again, cause Iām seeing folk try to really gas up the fact plasma punisher can kill chargers
In like less than a mag mind you
I was thinking about this, I haven't used the rover drone from before the patch until today, and people made it sound like the nerf to its operating time ruined it. and.. it didn't? it's still busted as hell at obliterating the small fry, it just requires more cooldowns.
Having watched it, if I was nerfing it I'd cut either how much juice you get in a heatsink by a little, or how many spare heatsinks you get by like half, mostly b/c it's just so generous with heat management
Damage/accuracy/firerate all looks fine
even then it doesn't feel necessary, cause like. the damage isn't that high that having all those heat-sinks makes it busted.
and someone with poor firing discipline can still burn through them.
Did it even get a nerf to its cooldown time??
from what I vaguely remember reading
Having watched yours I genuinely couldnāt tell
And I used to run rover back when I had a free back slot
I do notice it actually needing to return to me for recharges, now. when before it would wind up running entire matches.
Poor fire discipline burns through any gun's reserves
I mean yeah, it just especially bites you in the ass with the sickle
And that's if it was getting a nerf
true
Aye
honestly the weapons are in a space where nothing really needs a nerf, a handful just need buffs to bring them up to par
I do feel like the plasma punisher kinda
Wonāt? Itās really easy to kill yourself with
Not to mention the arc
Shrug
Weāll see, itās not like I donāt have backups
I doubt it will just because of popularity
yeah the Plasma Punisher is a polarizing as hell weapon
I suspect it will not ever be a particularly popular gun because it runs so counter to everything but [the gun that's in the last tier of the default pass]
which is also itself weird
Unless its insanely broken it won't get hit imo
not broken just deeply weird
Oh the scorcher
CU loves the scorcher and then wound up enjoying the plas-pun too
but that one also fires projos with very little dropoff while the plas is noticeable even out to fifty meters
Scorcher will also murder you if fired at point blank
also true about plas
Aye, but if you finagle it just right you can launch yourself to safety
Or rag doll someone whoās stimming
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up to play in 5-10?
damn they added difficulty 10?
Goes up to 11
heckplummet
Ye

I'm just waiting for some food to arrive
count me in
that'd be 4
and then i'll happily be up to murderize things
So like, in the game you've got a bunch of frozen clones of you on your ship right? and you can go join other folks ships. But if you leave their ship you end up on yours coming out of the clone pod
So when you leave another ship
Does your clone get killed?
They're not actually clones, they're all individual people
Lotta tubes thou
Sure, CEO's confirmed they're all of biological birth though
lead dev clarified theyāre all individual humans with their own families and hopes and dreams
Super Earth has a lot of people and a lot of uh
"incentive programs" if I had to guess
If you sign form C-01 yeah
Explcitly iirc one of the reaosns they're so imprelaistic
is they have a massive overpopuilation issue
Shower got I'll be in when everyone's good
gonna grab some water, use the bathroom and be there
cool
do u guys think itās comfy in a hellpod
absolutely not
Oh god no
you need a dedicated booster merely to be able to fit in some extra ammo, stims and grenades
I like to think that it's because it's full of nice little cozy stuff
but idk if you can be comfortable in the armor anyway
Oop sorry my internet just cut @stone bridge, gotta love NBN. Itāll probably be unstable from this point forward, so I will not volunteer myself from this point on. Sorry!
@merry cosmos You can make it in now
š Telstra is the worst I tell ya
Has anyone seen that you apparently get another democracy officer
whuh
in what respect?
Apparently your democracy officer can "look like Nick Fury"
Which is all I've gotten a descriptor for
Yea
Yeah, there's a few variants of the visuals
Classic/Hasselhoff or Ultimate/Jackson?
Damn
I might need to stop and farm super credit
or cough it up the money
That's cute
Ok last Reddit
you only need the first link
THAT WAS SUCH A CLEAN PUNCH
Bot was already going for their friend before the helldiver got there, it was personal
Helldiver simply fell into bot friendly fire
Oh that reminds me of something I found
May I present to you
Helldivers 2: Fat Geralt Edition
š 1.55K š 106
so tired of people not level 20 joining my suicide mission lobbies
im sorry but you are more or less dead weight
you are going to die 8 times when we're halfway through the mission
you do NOT have the equipment needed
I just wanna say how impressed I am with Arrowhead's ability to get to this state with this many wildly different weapons and stratagems.
Everything is viable, nothing is obvious trash or far and away the best. Sure, we can all think of a few things we'd tweak, and we might even agree on some of those - but it's really good right now.
It's not like some modern day games with 25 nigh identical assault rifles, all of which have the same attachments, either.
Man even as a gun nut I know exactly what you mean and Iām pretty tired of that too
Yeah, I'm not even trying to diss that - it's fun to be able to tweak the guns like that and to see all the little differences etc.
But it's fairly obviously easier to keep all of those guns viable (not that every game managed that) because it's such small differences.
Meanwhile, here you get everything from the Defender SMG to the Dominator to the Scythe - and they all do work.
I've even seen people get good results with the DMRs lately.
Hard mode pistol only is doable
That speak volues
also an achievement
Love the name for it, too.
Same, lots of great details, really well done
The VAs too, really good, and how it changes depending on what is happening is great too.
You can easily see that when you are reloading your last mag, comparing the voice when you are realoading standing still vs running from enemies
Oh, yeah. Agreed.
They got EAT's and a liberator, that carries you to helldives
Silenced pistol when
https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/S8exkMW1SO can't believe they're pulling a predator on some people in game
Outcast pranking helldivers early
That's my thought on how to give the pistol a niche vs the p-19.
Give it a silencer upgrade that the machine pistol can't have.
Because rn, that's the only gun I can think of, which is just completely replaced by another one.
P-19 in semi is just the pistol with more capacity.
(1 gun in the entire lineup! And it's not bad, it's just outdone by another!)
There is a silenced rifle that has been datamined
the slugger is silenced
The Autocannon is silenced :)
@stone bridge @cobalt patrol oh ok i believe now
WHAT
oh nice
Throw a headshot multiplier to truly be the stealth pistol and we are golden.
are the snowballs new or are they on all cold planets
bc I threw a snowball at a bug today
You
what
How
there was a little patch of snow that you could pick up snowballs from
oh my god
and huck em about
I need this in my life
I need to kill a bile titan with snowballs
i love it
It is just random patches of snow
I believe it's been there since day one but it's rare and easy to miss the prompt
make a lil snowman to confuse the bugs

snow, lil buttons, carrot nose, M34 Tactical Landmine with Proximity Sensor
Donāt forget the conveniently placed fire bombs
those are the eyes :3
That meme is just gonna get high def until it's just live action
just a lil guy
You wouldn't have beef with a silly little guy would you
they are married
Pelican and Eagle 1 are Married
Pelican: Does she like me?
to be fair
my gf hugs me and kisses me out of the blue and my brain asks the same questions
so I get where he's coming from
i like the design they gave pelican
That's okay I'll have both
<@&1206091872716595200> anyone up for low level supercredit farmin
I like the smile they gave Eagle.
I'd be up for it but I'm busy babysitting my nephew
Your newphew can fight for democracy too
Have your nephew call in stratagems while you run
!!!
That's a fun idea
"are you an idiot?"
"yes."
70873555
I need some super credits, and Iāve got an hour and a bit
Yāall good for a level 28 joining in?
47537093
lmk if you guys need someone to take a spot
In game pop-up video briefing on your new unit, the "Terror Drone" a mechanical spider that attacks armoured vehicles by cutting into them and then destroying them from the inside.
From the game "Red Alert 2"
I also found the thing that was messing with my strategem inputs, it was a powertoys keyboard feature
@stoic lotus we got a spot now
there in a mo
<@&1206091872716595200> 2 more spots
The SG-8P Punisher Plasma is surprisingly adept at eliminating Chargers despite many players dislike for the new weapon.
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you can do the same thing with the grenade launcher, so that makes sense
takes about 4-5 good shots
or you can stun nade, walk around and dump the Scorcher into the abdomen, which is easier and quicker but means you have to use the scorcher on bugs
I want them to make a version of this as a call-in
I've been jazzed about the existence of the coptersaw all day
Imagine just flying this through a bug swarm
huh
huh
I'm not sure I'd use a slot for it but I would like it
it seems like something that'd be a mission Strategem in like a night mission š
I mean it would be very nice on low visibility / night time planets
which is probably why it isn't in the game
all games ever do is brighten up the night so you no longer need any special consideration for it
I just wish it would give enemies a sight debuff because they'd be looking from a bright area into the dark
just switch discord to light mode when facing automatons
Helldivin time
'
It's 100% a mission stratagem, judging by the arrows at each of the corners
Probably an objective that hasn't been released yet
found a floaty
I really, really wish they made nighttime darker
and had illumination flares
imagine being unable to see the automatons except for their glowing eyes
no thank you. I play on max brightness because I wanna see what I'm doing
yeah, thats what i just said
I die to things i already SHOULD see
I max gamma on the regular
I don't want to start dying to things i couldn't have seen
I actually really don't like games when they make things have True darkness.
Lethal company is one thing but here? Nah
Noone ever wants to be bothered by a game having actual lighting mechanics because it would require actual thought, so games just remove any interesting lighting
that's why they need to balance it so that they cant see you either
Idk it feels like it would just slow things down a bit too much
I'm already not convinced by the game saying 'enemies can't see you in fog either', so I don't trust the darkness
I don't even trust the smoke
I mean they're gonna shoot into the smoke
yeah
but they're no longer shooting at you
Erata Prime is the forever war
Helldivers, but we dive everywhere except actual Erata prime Hell
I think Hellmire just opened up again, incase you like burning fog with a chance of roving pillars of fire
How the hell does that thing prime
I only see two hammers on that thing...does it just, shoot two at a time??
Anyone here have a video going over the new warbond?
Could be a really funky version of this
It has three hammers, one doing a double barrel on each side, one of those horizontal ones that just kick straight back rather than pivot for the 20mm
LETāS GO FLAME THROWER TIME
I don't get why people couldn't just
not play the good planets first
leave that for the victory lap
finish out Meridia and Erata Prime first
Humans want to be told they won, not work for it
You implying the planet with awesome fire tornados and the cool skybox isn't the good planet?
Oh wait what does Erata Prime have?
tremors
Dang
I think its more that people wanted to get their time in on the planets before they rotated out
Which is valid because that happened with the robot planets a couple times
But also now I want Graboids to exist in HD2
dafq r those?
The monsters from the movie Tremors
Imagine sandworms but smaller and in rural Nevada
I recommend watching those movies, at least some of them. They're fantastic
currently having a moment of confusion trying to purchase the Cutting Edge warbond
I want a big bug Sandworm covered in Charger armour, give me the big bastards from the first game
my game might just be acting up tho
I can't wait for ||Hive Lords, it's gonna be lethal company all over again||
||Those are the big worms you see corpses of every once in a while||
Spoilers~
spoilers for a game from 2015?
it is yes, but not many people played hd1
There's been a persistent issue at high server loads with purchases not going through but it'll work eventually
so they don't know what's to come
I honestly want the first game's sword back
it was a meme weapon but did surprisingly decent damage
Like helldivers peak ccu was 6.7k
an absolutely miniscule amount of people know about the first games enemies
I just hope they make all the boss tier stuff absolutely massive
this game does scale really well
That was on Steam - and the game was a playstation exclusive for a while before then
I wanna see something bigger than the above
We don't really know what the PS CCU was
I'd also really like a mission type where the entire map is just one giant bot base, the urban combat is great
It probably wasn't oom bigger than the steam ones though
give me Bot Stalingrad
What slot was it for? Sidearm like L4D2?
also: skill issue, should have just played HD1, is a great game
i think the sword was a primary in a special mission
Haha nice
thre was a bayonet that you stuck to the Space Springfield, which was your usual "melee weapon" and then there was the sword, which was for fucking around
Dumbledore killed Snape!!11!!
I still want the sword
i just want the motorbike
honestly with the capabilities of something like the Stalwart, Arc Thrower or Machine Gun in the primary slot I wouldn't be too opposed to a sword primary that could hack up armoured targets
let me kill a charger by hacking it with a sabre
i want to run around with a guy with a rocketlauncher in my sidecar while i run over bugs
what about sword AND bike?
oh yeah i would love a mission to fight bots or bugs or illuminate in like, A superearth style city
play a Kazoo version Beinhart
looks too professional
Give us the flag as a melee weapon
Bettah?
Also mines made me realize something I want
Is made with trash, love and anti-logic

