Helldivers 2: For Managed Democracy!

[jolly mortar]

yeah

[rapid plover]

Except for Strafing Run but yeah

[strange vine]

hopefully the ||grenade launcher secondary|| thats been leaked will help

[keen zinc]

Only SE approved stickers

WAR IS fun

[jolly mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monke-neuron-activation-neuron-activation-gif-20850506

[keen zinc]

Single shot grenade pistol is going to be nice for me

[jolly mortar]

you're telling me i can have MORE GRENADES?

[alpine seal]

kilroy was here or bust

[keen zinc]

I will have literally everything covered

[jolly mortar]

gonna just straight-up become the TF2 demo-man.

[rapid plover]

It seems like the next Warbond will be explosive themed

[jolly mortar]

perfect a bad scottish accent

[graceful bluff]

Give me a sword and a charge pack so I can demoknight team fortress 2 bugs

[jolly mortar]

give us a heavy weapon slot and a portable grenade turret

let me become grenade

[undone veldt]

Wait holy shit all the orbital weapons are front loaded at first

[alpine seal]

well whatever they were doing was only 10% slower so they seem to have locked it down pat

[sinful bay]

There is the mortar turrent

But I don't trust that thing

[jolly mortar]

i can be trusted with it. let me carry one.

[blissful sparrow]

Its still done by people loading it by hand by going out into space. But now they shove it into the back of the gun instead of the front, which saves a few seconds of floating out to there

[keen zinc]

Most super earth stuff is man-powered

Largely to utilize manpower as they have such high population they need to have as many people doing work as possible

Do things in the maximum manpower utilizing way

[glad marsh]

I scoff at the idea of anything but humanity powering our glorious nation

[undone veldt]

What are we? The automatons?

[keen zinc]

Space future with mechs and FTL travel and DNA rewriting, but colonists still use hand tools and manual labor

They mine with PICKAXES

WE don't even do that anymore

I believe they totally use assembly lines that are 100% men women and children using wrenches n shit to fasten items and assemble things

[undone veldt]

Please, children are in the end of the line

[keen zinc]

1920s tier industry with space tech

[undone veldt]

The smaller hands are great for final touches

[keen zinc]

Gonna try more steam deck Helldiving

See if it lets me extract

[glacial light]

I like to believe the reason why most weapons are dumb fired, sentries don't have good off, and stratagems need a human thrown beacon is the super Earth government is now afraid of cyborgs 2.0 or rogue AI

[strange vine]

every man, woman, and child over the age of 7 are doing their part!

[glacial light]

Sad children 6 and under have to wait years to contribute to the war effort

[graceful bluff]

Just be sure it won't hit you and it won't

[sinful bay]

And for grabbing those parts that feel between the machinery!

[graceful bluff]

it senses weakness

[sinful bay]

It sense bugs and bugs loves to hug me

[graceful bluff]

operating the mortar turret is like operathing a lathe

[sinful bay]

I knew petting Steve one too many times would be my doom

[graceful bluff]

don't give it a reason

[keen zinc]

Steeled Veterans aren't actually veterans they're just the children that lost limbs in factories but were still accepted for the Helldiver program

[graceful bluff]

The more you replace the faster you can hold a gun!

[sinful bay]

They are veterans in giving their limbs for
DEMOCRACY
🌎
⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐

[kindred lintel]

you mean this right?

[sinful bay]

Pain is weakness leaving the body

-John Doe

[oak crow]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[sinful bay]

Me watching a > > ^ deploying on top of my head

[keen zinc]

Automaton propaganda

||stealth booster?||

What a thrill...

[oak crow]

ooh, i hope so

[glacial light]

That and scout armor? Ig this team player just became a fab nest sabotage specialist playing solo

[oak crow]

btw, do you guys notice that the HD community seems really negative online?

[glacial light]

It's just me, my stratagems, and 3 other distractions drawing aggro

Yes

Especially reddit and discord

[oak crow]

yeah

i've been having a really fun time playing on my own and with friends

[glacial light]

Reddits a bit better now but around patch time I am avoiding it completely

[oak crow]

but the reddit is filled with doomsaying about how the game is broken and the devs are evil now

[glacial light]

But it got decent memes when the rage dies down

[sinful bay]

'The Services performed by the Enlisted for the Enlister shall include, but are not limited to active combat operations (which may include, but shall not be limited to raids, deployments, invasions, sorties, forays, assaults, blitzes, incursions, onslaughts, liberations, razings, flattenings, and nukings)(...)'

Wait, Raid is a 'legal' term for an operation?

[merry cosmos]

I have conflicting feelings about kojima

[sinful bay]

After dead stranding? Same.
It seemes he works best when he has a leash on and with a co-director very close to him

[merry cosmos]

Also do the children get paid anything for their invaluable service to the war effort

[azure pewter]

medals

[merry cosmos]

No before DS

My confliction comes from metal gear because i just unambiguously like DS

[glacial light]

They get paid in super experience to become helldivers

[sinful bay]

Dunno if here is the place for this but i would 100% hear you out.

[merry cosmos]

On the metal gear part?

Or me liking ds despite its flaws and thinking kojima is just fine on his own

[sinful bay]

both

[merry cosmos]

I will not elaborate on the second part

however

Metal gear always felt odd to me because of its emphasis on non lethality and stealth... walst also giving snake a full arsenal of lethal weaponry including a mech walker with a flame thrower

On top of the general insanity of the series wide plot line involving alot of meta shit and hard to follow bs

Among other reasons

But at the same time. I genuinely enjoy the games for some god Forsaken reason

And snake is iconic for a reason

[sinful bay]

I mean

Jojo is 70% bullshit and I love it

so hey

[merry cosmos]

Also i lied about this

Because its very clear Kojima wants to make ds and ds2 and his trade mark brand of bullshit works in a setting that is openly paranormal

I also forgot to bring up something

The fact that Kojima seems to be very much a Hollywood meatrider

[south temple]

someone should be with him at all times to spray him with a spray bottle when he says something fucking stupid

[sinful bay]

He is a Weestabo

[merry cosmos]

Im aware

[sinful bay]

I really didn't like the performance of Punished Snake in V

[merry cosmos]

And he says a kind of rizz with his worship of Hollywood that makes me able to tolerate it.

[quick plinth]

punished snake?

[merry cosmos]

Which makes him better than someone like... neil drukman (or however its spelt) in my eyes. Who constantly makes my eyes roll in his attempts to make me actually care about whatever bullshit he wrote

(I think very highly of thou if you cant tell)

[merry cosmos]

Venom snake

The protagonist of MGSV

[quick plinth]

there's too many snakes

I cant keep track of them all

[merry cosmos]

Kill em

[glacial light]

Dead Snake

[merry cosmos]

Litch snake

[velvet pollen]

disagree entirely

kojima should be given a check for one trillion dollars to realize his magnum opuus

[merry cosmos]

This but unironically

[south temple]

too little

[velvet pollen]

two trillion dollars

[south temple]

he won’t be able to cook properly with anything below three trillion

[quick plinth]

I feel like the arc rifle is a tiny bit too strong

[velvet pollen]

what if..... it was four trillion

[quick plinth]

like ever so slightly too strong

[south temple]

then we’d finally see the arsenal gear crashing

[sinful bay]

That happened
Ergo: Dead Stranding

[merry cosmos]

The arc rifle feels like shit to use so it balances out

[sinful bay]

Sony allowed him to do anyTHING he wanted and we had dead stranding

[keen zinc]

Magnum o-poos

[merry cosmos]

And the world was better for it

[quick plinth]

but the horde clear is insane once you get into the rythm

[velvet pollen]

the arc rifle takes me back to being a wee little baby playing battlefront 2 (2005) with my older bro

[south temple]

god’s strongest TK machine

[velvet pollen]

because theres a nearly identical gun in that game

[sinful bay]

Yes it is a good game
My problem: He should had explained better and not acted like an pretentious artist :V

[quick plinth]

thats the mortar

[sinful bay]

And then he had a hissy fit in the game awards when his game didn't win game of the year -runs

[glacial light]

I feel like a stragem support weapon should be be at least good ad clear if that's what it's good at, look at my friend stalwart

[velvet pollen]

in our current anti intellectual climate i think artists should get a lot more pretentious

[keen zinc]

The arc thrower is great

[merry cosmos]

What even is anti intellectualism?

[keen zinc]

Not seeing that is a legitimate skill issue

[keen zinc]

Republicans

[velvet pollen]

about three miles out of scope for this thread

[south temple]

shhh do not utter its name

[glacial light]

What is this? Politics in my apolitical Helldivers game thread?

[sinful bay]

Why, all that pretentious talk Kojima did before releasing teh game was make consumers confused and more people pissed.
He should had come forth about the gameplay and his intentions , be direct, and not just say "Oh this came will unite people" etc etc

[south temple]

when someone says something you don’t like

[quick plinth]

I don't even know how they could fix the mortar TK to Mob ratio

[glacial light]

Why bring politics into Helldivers /s

[sinful bay]

Bigger blast radious

[velvet pollen]

he was right 🫡

[sinful bay]

Turn the Mortar turrent into the fat man

[blissful sparrow]

Faster fire rate
then it can kill more while you are respawning

[keen zinc]

"right and wrong are just differences of opinion"

[honest acorn]

Helldivers with eyes

[keen zinc]

"facts are just whatever you believe someone else has said/written"

[quick plinth]

anyway helldivers is yet another "not political" game, just like MG:R, Fallout: New Vegas

[keen zinc]

These are genuine takes I have heard in real life

[sinful bay]

MEMES ARE THE DNA OF THE SOUL, JACK

[honest acorn]

And maybe just not using it on bugs that’s harder

[keen zinc]

And I am not joking

Anti-intellectualism is real

[south temple]

right is when i say it wrong is when they say it

[glacial light]

Mortars now spawn enemies near players so it can claim that it acfed in self defense

[velvet pollen]

kind of an astute observation but unpacking this would be even further out of scope for this thread lmao

[quick plinth]

its not

[keen zinc]

This was my boss being a climate change denier, fyi

[velvet pollen]

helldivers isnt political because it doesnt have gay ppl in it 👽

[quick plinth]

facts are what we can scientifically prove

[keen zinc]

He doesn't believe in science

[sinful bay]

Pain

[keen zinc]

He thinks Science is wrong/fake

[blissful sparrow]

the 3 round salvo gets changed so the first shot fires an enemy to the target area

[oak crow]

my favorite apolitical game is Hearts of Iron 4. You don't need to think about pesky real world problems, it's all fun military conquest!
(i have never played HOI4)

[keen zinc]

Just like Facts and History

[quick plinth]

canonically same sex couples are not taboo in super earth society

[velvet pollen]

science is also formed by ideological forces, it isn't a mere reflection of an unassailable truth

[quick plinth]

yes

[merry cosmos]

That is actually just true

[quick plinth]

I was gonna say scientists and science can be heavily influenced by those trying to attempt it

[south temple]

if helldivers doesn’t have gay people in it, why did i just kiss the automaton commissar? checkmate liberals

[oak crow]

i believe it's also implied that SE covers transition costs for Hell Divers

[merry cosmos]

Where is that implied out of curiosity

[quick plinth]

loading screen tip

lmao

[merry cosmos]

Oh

That one

Yeah

[keen zinc]

It's that easy!

[glacial light]

If you want to confuse automaton facial recognition get on HRT

[quick plinth]

im just waiting for queer cape colors

[glacial light]

Brasch pro tip

[velvet pollen]

the like all inclusive fascism of helldivers' setting reminds me a lot of the imperial radch trilogy, which is a great series if you havent read it

[quick plinth]

Im never gonna be taking off the lesbian one

[velvet pollen]

the central Evil Empire of that series is also multiracial/cultural/etc but in a very raytheon kinda way

[keen zinc]

See every Helldiver is a different person but every time my diver is killed a new person transitions to become him

[merry cosmos]

Oh capes

[sinful bay]

HRT?

[sinful bay]

.
And that automatically made the Helldivers (military-group) more inclusive and less evil than Nestle -runs

[quick plinth]

I was just thinking helldivers have flashclones of themselves in storage but considering SE has a population problem literally everywhere it doesn't make sense

[keen zinc]

They confirmed it's not clones

[glacial light]

Hormone replacement therapy

[sinful bay]

ooooh

[glacial light]

Each helldiver is a full human born person

[keen zinc]

Every helldiver is a patriotic individual with a life expectancy of 2 minutes after landing

[quick plinth]

the best way to avoid facial recognition is to weak a balaklava

[oak crow]

i hope they add them, to piss off bigots and allow others to wear them, but i probably won't. i really enjoy the "base helldiver" aesthetic tbh.

[glacial light]

They are conscripted from the very best of humanity

[quick plinth]

definitely

[oak crow]

would totally win like, a little pride sticker on my helmet tho

[merry cosmos]

Actually it technically is. Every helldiver frozen in my destroyer is a unique individual. But the moment they drop the transition and become "her"

[sinful bay]

same, really great aesthetic.

[merry cosmos]

They become futaba Sakura

[quick plinth]

helldivers enlist

[keen zinc]

Yeah they see a poster of your first diver on the wall and be like "yes I want to be them"

[glacial light]

Instead of super citizen I want a title that says "SUPER GAY" in rainbow text

[quick plinth]

but since virtually everyone enlists

[merry cosmos]

I get the sense they will

[oak crow]

i just recently changed my voice-pack to random to simulate the feeling that it is just soldiers being dropped from the same ship, rather than just clones. tho i don't hate the idea of clones.

[quick plinth]

canonically its not clones

[glacial light]

Sorry the first diver on my super destroyer said everyone in cryo must be lesbians with similar voices

It's the law of the ship

[quick plinth]

but the explanation that every helldiver Im playing as just transitioned / used tech to imitate the first one is funnier

[keen zinc]

CEO confirmed not clones

[south temple]

god i hope so

[sinful bay]

boy then super earth must breed like rabbits becuase my dumbass gets killed a lot

[keen zinc]

What if Helldivers were organized by Managed Democracy with everyone with the same preferences being grouped together

[merry cosmos]

I dont care if its not cannon. Its funny to think everyone spontaneously becomes futaba sakura from the smash hit jrpg persona 5

[sinful bay]

Trust the algorithm

[keen zinc]

It is a world spanning arcology with many other populated worlds

[quick plinth]

sort by gender and vibes lmao

[keen zinc]

Everyone in each super destroyer are grouped out of similar personality, body type, and fashion sense

[glacial light]

It's a curse being on a ship full of frozen lesbians but only one lesbian can be unfrozen at a time until the last one dies

[merry cosmos]

(Her va is in helldivers 2 has one of the voice options for context)

[dusty spruce]

Yeah I don't think Super Earth has any population problems. Frankly the Helldivers may as well be described as a population size control method with the added benefit of potentially have some operational benefits

[quick plinth]

is this signalis

[sinful bay]

'4.1 Unless otherwise stated, the Enlisted shall be solely and exclusively responsible for any and all damages, harm, liability, loss, costs, expenses, craters, atrocities, and crimes (civil, uncivil, war) caused, created, or generated during the course of the rendition of services. The Enlisted hereby indemnifies (i) The Enlister, and (ii) the Authorized Command Structure, including but not limited to any employees, representatives, heirs, and successors against any costs, challenges, losses, damages, or expenses (without limitation) arising from or relating in any way to the rendition of services by the Enlisted.

4.2 Any damage sustained by the Enlisted, whether reputational or corporeal (including but not limited to incineration, evisceration, spinal separation, vaporization, crushing, freezing, burning, decapitation, paper cuts, explosion, contusion, removal of arms and/or limbs, addition of arms and/or limbs, dizziness, nausea, shortness of breath and/or death) shall not be considered the responsibility of the Enlister.

4.3 The Enlisted shall not hold the Enlister in whole or in part responsible for whether they return in whole or in part. '

AND the goverment gets to gain money from it! 😄

[keen zinc]

They have also been Producing helldivers for 100 years and just keeping them on a freezer

So they have a lot of them

Remember the rockets leaving Mars on the trailer? And how long your training is

And how much incoming they have was stated as DAILY

[cobalt wing]

https://fxtwitter.com/Helldivers2HQ/status/1766871639730315620?s=20

[keen zinc]

That's how many

[glacial light]

I imagine the arcologies of the humanity is more massive number wise than the few planets we're taking at the moment

[merry cosmos]

Spending over 100 years in cryo just to die in horrific agony

[quick plinth]

though we have to consider that the majority of helldivers have been habitually handiling guns since like age 13 probably

[glacial light]

Probably 7

[dusty spruce]

Everyone gets basically a space M1 Garand at 7, I think

[keen zinc]

Yeah, and still only has 20% survival rating

[quick plinth]

no no

[glacial light]

That's when you can work I believe

[merry cosmos]

*16

[keen zinc]

So only the ones with pre-existing capabilities are filtered out of the masses

[merry cosmos]

Its issued at 16 to promote military service

[dusty spruce]

yeah, I mixed them getting them at 16 with the 'every child over the age of 7 working' thing, my bad

[sinful bay]

how are you suppose to kill that

[keen zinc]

Training is literally just a filter to get fit people with weapon experience

[quick plinth]

its a Springfield bolt action from ww1

[keen zinc]

Not actually training

[quick plinth]

not a garand

[honest acorn]

The big thing is not letting it get that bad

Titans are rare without bug breaches

[keen zinc]

Basically, Super Earth society passively trains militia tier children who then volunteer en masse for Helldiver training, they get filtered via training fatalities and then frozen

[honest acorn]

And above 6 it starts getting important to not fight the map

[keen zinc]

And this is daily

In the hundreds of thousands

For a hundred years

[glacial light]

Also keep moving

[honest acorn]

That’s less important if there aren’t breaches but yeah

[quick plinth]

people seem obsessed with fighting every god damn patrol

[glacial light]

Past 6 enemies will not stop spawning you got to learn to recoup when a firefight is at its least intense instead of waiting for things to die down completely

[honest acorn]

I’m relatively confident that video was made by running around like a maniac spawnmaxxing

[quick plinth]

and im just there in the background trying my damndest to not aggro mobs

[honest acorn]

On 7 you can still do full clears but it’s not usually a great use of time

[glacial light]

It doesn't help patrols will investigate noise you make and you can't avoid all patrols

[dusty spruce]

To be fair to that video, that was an Eradicate, which are maybe a little overtuned now for less than full squads

[honest acorn]

8+ it doesn’t seem feasible

[quick plinth]

playing fkn L4D2 while im playing MGSV

[upbeat vector]

I've seen patrols just like, stand still, waiting for me to walk up to them

Even though I'm wearing the stealth armour, prone, and they just spawned in

[glacial light]

I've had patrols beeline me from a distance just walking towards me even if I like go around them they just suspiciously turn around towards mr

[blissful sparrow]

The autocannon is a Silent weapon :)

[upbeat vector]

Patrols seem to just know where you are now

[quick plinth]

ive seen patrols pop into existence in front of me

[steady bone]

So I'm not insane, it 100% seems like random patrols will pop up randomly ontop of you

[honest acorn]

Weird, not moving and not in that “alerted but haven’t found you” state?

[quick plinth]

if youre out of combat, feelers will beline to you

like out of combat too long

[dusty spruce]

Yeah, there was always some issues with patrols spawning within line of sight, but it seems to have gotten worse recently

[honest acorn]

I think it’s caused by people overestimating aggro range

[glacial light]

I'm guessing some patrols are hardcoded to move towards you otherwise it's kind of waste of processing power to simulate a patrol walking into the edge of the map

[quick plinth]

HD2 tries its damnedest to get you into combat

[upbeat vector]

Okay, I may have been unfair. I think they might have just been stuck on a rock tbh

[honest acorn]

I certainly thought it was bigger than it was

[upbeat vector]

And then tries to make that combat as punishing as possible it feels

[glacial light]

Scout armor let's you basically be invisible to them which is nice until you call in strat or shoot

[dusty spruce]

There is also a prolonged period at some distances where the patrol will stare at you, but aren't actually 'noticing' you

Had times that the hunter pack stares into my soul as I just slowly walk away

[quick plinth]

you can throw nades to make patrols go investigate the noise

[honest acorn]

Yeah scout armor is like a 30ish meter aggro range while sprinting

[steady bone]

I guess that explains those clips where the patrol is just staring at a Hell diver doing a task

[glacial light]

7 is my ideal diff so far cause it's still full of action and not MGSV

[unreal merlin]

You can actually sneak right up on some enemies with infiltrator armor.

[quick plinth]

I mean

if you sneak behind raiders

you can just melee them while prone

[glacial light]

Just keep fighting and moving, no downtime but it's not a deaths sentence to get patrols on you

[quick plinth]

and there could be a bot not 5 meters awau

but they wont notice

[dusty spruce]

I think some people also still don't know that enemies will get aggro'd by red beacons, but are more blind to blues

[quick plinth]

no

they'll investigate blues

but get aggrod by reds

[glacial light]

Where is this stated

[blissful sparrow]

Also i am looking forward to silenced weapons getting reintroduced

[glacial light]

I'm not a big fan of stealth play but it's not real important until ig 8 or 9

I will storm that heavy bug nest with a mech alone if I have to

[honest acorn]

It’s not it’s just observational

[glacial light]

I see

[honest acorn]

Red beacons seem to put everyone near them in a combat state and blue beacons are basically grenades (they’ll draw investigation but not immediate combat)

[glacial light]

Lack of in game info annoys me as someone that likes to know stuff up front

[sinful bay]

Doggo bot enemy when

[dusty spruce]

Yeah, the devs have been decent with transparency and communication, but there is much that is still unclear/to be desire (especially stealth changes, which I tend to strongly dislike even when they are buffs as they have mostly been so far)

[honest acorn]

never EVER by the grace of Joel

[glacial light]

I don't think Joel has ever said anything publicly, someone other just mentioned he existed

And what he does

[honest acorn]

Yeah

[dusty spruce]

Those dogs were fine when they were just part of patrols, but oh god can they come out of nowhere during a wave to just body your squad

[honest acorn]

Yeah they were ok in patrols but surprise dog waves were the worst shit

[blissful sparrow]

well in HD1 you also couldn't see into the distance which made anything charging at you much worse

[sinful bay]

So make the dogs be able to dig to surprise you in HD2 , got it

[blissful sparrow]

Airborne drop dogs

[glacial light]

Dogs can now burrow

[blissful sparrow]

the D in ODST stands for Dog

[dusty spruce]

aye, but now you can't see 360* at all time

[sinful bay]

Dog mines

[dusty spruce]

now you'll be fighting bots only to be dragged out of cover by robo dogs

[glacial light]

Dogs can ambush you and will disable your mic in game and in discord when they drag you underground

[final frigate]

Oh Dog Shit Turds

[dusky solar]

Someone made fun of me a little for being a meta slave and running a shield pack

I picked it because we had an arc thrower player who managed to get 7 TKs 😂

[sinful bay]

GO FOR 10!

[glacial light]

Shield is a must if someone has a mortar or arc for me

[dusky solar]

Yeah you just

cannot

Trust randoms

at all

[final frigate]

I caught a wild arc thrower on my first mission with my friend and he was a little steamed when I almost killed him

[glacial light]

I refuse to die more than like 4 times in a mission

[honest acorn]

Shield is just good in general, I like to run it vs bugs a lot

[glacial light]

Or GL

[honest acorn]

Since light armor+shield makes you really survivable

[dusky solar]

I don't mind dying a lot so long as we win, but also if i have a braindead option like shield i am gonna pick it so gameplay isn't so stressful

[glacial light]

I like it better than rover cause not even rover will protect you against a group of hunters slowing you to a crawl forever

[final frigate]

I bought the padded light armor from the super store
is that my endgame armor

[dusky solar]

I like engineering light armor

6 nades goated

[honest acorn]

Hunters are why I started bringing it too

[final frigate]

that's a good number of nades

[glacial light]

I am once again saying I want my heavy stim armor for bugs

Stims giving effectively infinite stamina really counteracts the slow in critical times

[sinful bay]

Now grab the grenade launcher
Extra Extra nades

[final frigate]

oh yeah is the 3 eagle airstrikes the limit for the whole mission or can you replenish those

[dusky solar]

Yeah, i run jetpack GL a lot

Super dope build for blitzes

[honest acorn]

They replenish

[sinful bay]

2:30 minute recharge after they run out

[final frigate]

oh shit

[glacial light]

You have to rearm to replenish all your eagles at once

[sinful bay]

or you can force it to recharge earlier with a command

[final frigate]

why doesn't the game tell me that!

[honest acorn]

Only the orbital laser and mechs are actually hardcapped

[keen zinc]

Wild that the Guard Dog doesn't refill ammo off of ammo pickups

[rapid plover]

the Eagle strikes auto rearm once you have used all of them

or you can start it early manually

[final frigate]

this game really suffering from a dearth of information

[glacial light]

Wait till you hear about the dozen hidden stats like handling, penetration is on a scale of 1 to 10, and more

[final frigate]

gimme all da numbies

[blissful sparrow]

You basically have 1 Eagle, that will carry all eagle strikes you bring

[final frigate]

so if I bring 3 eagle strats I gotta use em all to get the first kind I run out of back?

[blissful sparrow]

You can manually send it back to rearm

[glacial light]

You can manually rearm all your eagles at any time

[blissful sparrow]

once you use one you get an extra strategem

[final frigate]

oh that's cute

[blissful sparrow]

and ofcourse while the eagle is flying 1 attack run you can't have it do another

[glacial light]

But eagles strikes that are out won't replenish until you rearm

[blissful sparrow]

while orbitals are fully independent

[glacial light]

And eagle strikes will automatically rearm once you're completely out

[final frigate]

sounds like I'm eaglepilled

[glacial light]

Eagle is goated

[rapid plover]

the upgrades for it also help

[oak crow]

@final frigate its very very easy to understand once you take two Eagle stratagems in a game, would def reccomend too

[rapid plover]

reduces CD for Eagle strikes, Rearm time, and gives you extra uses of each one before rearming

[final frigate]

well yeah but I was kinda hesitant to grab more than one in the first place

cause I assumed I could only run 1 kind

[blissful sparrow]

most people i've seen tend to bring 2ish

cause the short cooldowns on each individually are great

[glacial light]

Eagle is great burst

[blissful sparrow]

but you also don't want to be caugvt completely off guard while its rearming

[dusty spruce]

I like to run multiple eagle strikes, but be careful on some bot missions. They can have AA guns in some places that will disable Eagle stratagems in a radius around them (alongside the total jammers that they love to place around extraction)

[glacial light]

The rearm period makes you vulnerable if you're completely reliant on eagle

[blissful sparrow]

2 eagles, 1 support, 1 orbital is a good starting setup until you get more comfortable and know your rythm

[glacial light]

Also airstrike is consistently goated

[rapid plover]

Airstrike is just really versatile, yeah

[glacial light]

I don't think I've seen a game without at least 2 eagle airstikes

Jack of all trade good for every build

[rapid plover]

it kills stuff, it blows up bases
fast response time, good amount of uses

[south temple]

air strike is fire

i’m cluster bomb’s biggest hater now after some dipshit TKed me 4 times in a row w it

[oak crow]

the airstrike is really good, the napalm is excellent against bugs, the 500kg can be good for clearing out a big target or taking down a nest (but honestly, i'd go for an airstrike just as often)

[keen zinc]

Chad Cluster Strike user

[rich marlin]

Honestly think airstrike is the best stratagem.

Others have specific uses, but airstrike just slaps

[south temple]

bug napalm is so fun

[glacial light]

Cluster has the opposite of 500kg problem. It's kill radius is bigger than it's visual thanks to ricochet

[south temple]

it’s so strong but oh my god after the third time my whole team died except for the guy who threw it

[glacial light]

If an enemy is on your screen and isn't a tiny dot don't throw a cluster

[south temple]

or do

for fun

[dusty spruce]

I love the rocket pods. They can maybe miss, but they are even good for killing things that are close up. They murder Automaton hulks and tanks really well, and are good for the turrets too

[glacial light]

They do murder tanks

[south temple]

nah just autocannon snipe like super earth intended

[glacial light]

Being able to one shot 3 tanks within a single 240s rearm is bonkers

That's a dead tank every 80 seconds at fastest

Not including eagle cooldowns

[south temple]

that is wild yeah

i just can’t get past the joy of yelling at my team to “just make it not look at me” and then it explodes in glorious fire

[glacial light]

When I'm on bot I run big game hunter build of autocannon, rocket, railcannon, and laser

[south temple]

this is the way

[glacial light]

Any heavies called out I instantly perk up to blow it up

[south temple]

what primary do you run with it?

[glacial light]

And even on 7 most of my stuff is on cooldown

[south temple]

i’ve gotten attached to the lib-pen

[glacial light]

Ideally slugger but I don't have it so I use breaker for now

Mostly to deal with berserkers cause they'll destroy heavy armor

I should try out lib pen

[south temple]

yeaaaah

fuck berserkers

i run the punisher to deal with them exclusively

[sinful bay]

Shotgun to the stomach makes then stagger so much, is fun ❤️

[south temple]

cutting them in half <3

[sinful bay]

Props to the animators, the staggering and death animations are top notch

[kindred lintel]

you mean ragdolls?

that not animation

[sinful bay]

The whole game is all
Very well made

The staggering is

[modest fiber]

finding some fun lore stuff, just gonna slide it here, also yes them ragdolls are funneh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOe3YpJQrGY

[south temple]

they need to add a mastiff with pure horizontal spread

[sinful bay]

Shooting a bot in the foot to make him backflip towards you when he tries to jumppack?
Never gets old

[south temple]

i need to cut more robots in half completely

[glacial light]

Amazing

I like how on snow maps if you use RR the backblast will push you snow behind you

[south temple]

call me the pendulum the way i love cutting people in half

[south temple]

it’s so cool

[dusty spruce]

I wonder if they bring the trident back if it'll have a purely horizonal spread or be more of a scatter laser

[sinful bay]

Do you think adding a melee option for the mech would be worth it?A big melee of course
Or a sword while you one hand a pistol...
or maybe is my WH40K speaking

[south temple]

montante when

[glacial light]

I'm more want to see a mech with a chainsword and booster or shield option

Yes I want Armored core

[south temple]

strap a gills booster to your diver

[sinful bay]

"621
I see... you made a friend"
😢

[sinful bay]

YES

[glacial light]

Oh even though there isn't urban maps, grappling hook

Grapple something heavy pulls you closer, grapple something around the same size or smaller will draw them to you

[keen zinc]

E621

[glacial light]

And a saber from HD1

[sinful bay]

If you put a grappling hook on the game it will be used by EVERYONE and I will get addicted

[south temple]

the bile titan quakes in fear

[sinful bay]

"Hey, Buddy OwO"

[oak crow]

i don't know how well it would fit with how the mechs currently exist, but a melee weapon would be great, if only because it would lessen the penalty for running out of ammo.

[glacial light]

Yes I am a Deep Rock scout main and endgame Dying Light fan

[sinful bay]

I love the gunner but his lack of Grappling Hook drives me away from him

[sinful bay]

With some decent range and hey is golden

[glacial light]

I should be a gunner the entire kit fits my playstyles but grapple hook

Well now I have a craving for video games with grapple hooks, time to video game channel for suggestions

[sinful bay]

Starbound for maximum bullshit speed then -runs

[strange vine]

i have a pavlovian response to a rocket devastator doing its fucking rocket squat now

[glacial light]

3 hours until I can play

When everyone panics about rocket devastators and I wander to the front at the speed of lard to tank

[sinful bay]

yo same

[south temple]

it’s got the monarch crouch

[glacial light]

When someone dies to a rocket devastator I think about how it should have been me

Unless I'm out of stims

[sinful bay]

Just rocket jump to your objective smh

[glacial light]

I run through so many stims after stimming each rocket

On bots I can easily do 16-18 stims

Mostly cause I stim after each rocket or 2

Is lib pen good against devastators?

[velvet pollen]

that dude squats and i dive for the floor

wait the salvo out then pop the pod off its back

[glacial light]

I basically run anti annoying build for bots. Hulks, tanks, striders are all free game for me, if I could squeeze in devastators...

So my team can deal with other threats and objectives

[south temple]

works in a pinch

[dusty spruce]

Slugger or Punisher does good for Devastators. The slugger at least always staggers them so they can't fire

[glacial light]

Does punisher have good range?

I have punisher and working towards slugger

[dusty spruce]

I think so, been a while since I used it it. Definitely not as good range as the Slugger, but should still stagger at medium range

[honest acorn]

It’s not great but it’s ok

[blissful sparrow]

Punisher has enough range

[glacial light]

For medium range engagement lib pen or punisher?

[blissful sparrow]

can't snipe with it, but you can easily ruin the day of anything within 50 meter

[glacial light]

I've decided to abandon berserker hunting and going after devastators instead

[velvet pollen]

if you got devvie hunting gear serkers arent much of a problem

[quick plinth]

why do eagles just

feel infinitely better than orbitals

[modest fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[velvet pollen]

because your mystery pilot wife drops them for you :3c

[glacial light]

Her name is Eagle One thank you very much

[dusty spruce]

Eagle One's responding and the fact that they are all precise and have relatively quick call-downs as opposed to the 5-10 inbound time for everything else

[south temple]

fast call in, more AOE, more charges

[quick plinth]

orbital airburst tho

[south temple]

true actually

[glacial light]

As a devil's advocate the orbital person is shooting from space while eagle one is in atmosphere

[south temple]

even from space he manages to beam my teammate with a 380

[blissful sparrow]

based 5 second Railgun

[glacial light]

Precision orbital is well precise

And railcannon

380mm idk what their excuse is

[dusty spruce]

I do think they need to return some of the regular orbitals to older cooldowns

may help the disparity between Eagle strikes and other orbitals

or maybe the current cooldowns are balanced on an as-of-yet unreleased booster or armor perk

akin to the Strategem Priority of the first game

[sinful bay]

I want
To be able to change my armor skin color to the helldivers default color ;w;
I like my Dreadnout armor but the brown does not go well with the aesthetic ;w;

And loadouts

[candid finch]

<@&1206091872716595200> anyone fancy a mission or two? I'm down in SSC

[glacial light]

I'm guessing they want a consistent limited aesthetic but it'd be nice to have a match button thatmatches your armor to your helmet or vice versa

[honest acorn]

I’ll be a few mins but I’m down

[candid finch]

4358 5111

[keen zinc]

The champion of the people helmet matches it

Final page of free warbond

[south temple]

light gunner helmet works if it’s the armor i’m thinking of

[sinful bay]

Oh yeah it works wonderfully
but
the black and gold is peak

[south temple]

tru

[glacial light]

You mean white and blue

[keen zinc]

Champion of the people helmet matches it perfectly

The golden visor

I wish the dreadnought armor didn't have the grenade belts

I would use it if it didn't

[sinful bay]

will take a look, thank ya!

[sinful bay]

As a Heavy Weapons Guy enjoyer, I like it.

[quick plinth]

@honest acorn 5166 7926

[south temple]

the nade belts are cool tho

[steady vine]

Anyone up for some helldivers?

[modest fiber]

yes

[sinful bay]

Stract me from work then yes -runs

[south temple]

i wish i could but i’m in hell (english class)

[keen zinc]

But I don't use the GL

[glacial light]

I am at the work for 2 hours 😭

[sinful bay]

Gotta cosplay it to handle the drip

[sinful bay]

br?

[sinful bay]

Waity, but you use the Stalwart, is close enough for a minigun, right

[keen zinc]

Those are not mini gun rounds

Those are 40mm grenades

It feels weird to be strapped with explosives that none of my weapons use

They're so big and prominent too

[sinful bay]

Fair point

Counterpoint:
Become TF2 Demoman

Also I love that we have buddies emotes
Good hug emote
makes me want one

no but yeah, yes, is weird, wish I could customise it what kind of ammo appears on the armor

[glad marsh]

Hey @honest acorn lemme know if you get a slot?

O

Wait

We have another squad going

Sweet

[keen zinc]

I have flirted with the GL

I love it's ammo economy, it (usually) gets 2 reloads of grenades from an ammo pickup which is So Nice compared to the Machine Gun.

But the Stalwart just Gets Me

[sinful bay]

Stalwart is just very much Dakka per second

I need to give it a shot at it again
I am just
So un LOVE with the shotgun breaker, man

[glacial light]

Shotgun breaker is a true meme

[dusky solar]

Breaker / Stalwart / Resupp backpack is maximum utility

[glacial light]

It's basically a last resort weapon

[dusky solar]

Resupplies, a ton of ammo, giga crowd control

[glacial light]

Or what's the double barrel shotgun you find on the floor that's what I'm thinking of, not the breaker that's a good one

[dusky solar]

Substitute grenade launcher for stalwart sometimes

Personally i think the elevation you get from jetpack is a core part of making nade launcher good

[graceful bluff]

Hitting in the center of a group of enemies rather than in the face of an enemy on the edge is great yeah

[dusky solar]

Yup. Enabled by elevation!

Also a great weapon for riding on top of a mech

[keen zinc]

The grenade launcher becomes an entirely different beast with the jump pack

You become an ac-130

[dusky solar]

Shame you can't really aim it in midair

[keen zinc]

It would be busted

[dusky solar]

XD

Jetpack is also very good with the stalwart but it's VERY good with the machine gun

Because you can do the reload animation in midair

So you never have to sit still to reload

Just in general midair safe reloads are awesome

It usually won't be over by the time you hit the ground but it'll be 90% done reloading

[keen zinc]

Problem is feeding the MG

[glacial light]

Seems good against bots since you can jump behind and unleash DPS into a vent

[keen zinc]

2 reloads and only getting one back per pickup is huge pain

[keen zinc]

Stalwart on max RPM does this insanely well

I do it frequently

[dusky solar]

This is why i like the GL so much

Big wave clear potential

Sometimes you can just solo an entire breach

Or you can solo it all with like the GL and 1-2 stratagems

[meager saffron]

well timed 500kg plus a gl magdump usually enough

[keen zinc]

The stalwart does horde clear amazingly well, and if you want more hitting power it's better to just go straight to the GL rather than the MG

[meager saffron]

the gl for the little shitters and the 500kg for the big dumpers

[keen zinc]

The MG imo doesn't have the ammo economy to justify taking over either of the other two

GL being easier to feed than the MG is very funny

[graceful bluff]

https://twitter.com/vexwerewolf/status/1767227529201385483

VƎX Werewolf (@vexwerewolf) on X

For all my criticisms of Helldivers 2, I love how through its very mechanics it makes players feel like they're meaningless pawns in a forever war that they can never win.

Twitter · Mar 11, 2024, 4:34 PM

Imagine caring about the war efforts other than wanting to see a hive lord

[hallow hornet]

Personally I think it would be funnier if contributing to the war effort was just about slowing it down

I think that'd be funny

I also think thematically its more fun if we get to see what happens on other planets when they get captured

[graceful bluff]

(It's also the dev reason that not all of the planets are ready yet most likely)

[hallow hornet]

I do think its funny that the reddit seems to think this game is a weird power fantasy

[graceful bluff]

same, idiots missing the satire is just eternal

[hallow hornet]

Personally I think dying is funny

I think taking on stuff that's way stronger than me and dying a few times or barely get out of the scrap is fun

i love that

[glacial light]

How do we win this war?

That's the neat part you don't

[hallow hornet]

Become a politician

obviously

[graceful bluff]

I don't know if it's cause of fighting games but losing is the default state of games to me

[hallow hornet]

that's the side you wanna be on to "win" wars

[graceful bluff]

like games in general

[granite rivet]

"but you're a human killing bugs, how could we not be the good guys"

[hallow hornet]

We've failed to extract multiple times now because of overwhelming conditions

[oak crow]

https://tenor.com/view/good-bug-dead-bug-bugs-starship-troopers-gif-27594834

[hallow hornet]

and I found that fun as fuck

[graceful bluff]

Yeah

[hallow hornet]

there's a reason the game gives you stuff on a "fail"

[glacial light]

I'm guessing most gamers missing the point either never watched starship troopers or missed the point with that one

[graceful bluff]

Was the more recent one also satire?

Never watched that one

[hallow hornet]

I think its also because gaming overall is mostly geared toward power fantasy in one way or another

[granite rivet]

it's still a success in the end if everyone dies but the objective is complete

[south temple]

“are you saying you’re some kind of fucking bug sympathizer?”

[south temple]

tru

[graceful bluff]

I also find it funny that people are mad that your armor doesn't protect your head

[granite rivet]

there was someone on reddit who said "Starship Troopers (the film) is a fun movie about military heroics and it's not satire"

[graceful bluff]

it's not the bugs fault you grew your skeleton on the inside like a goober

[glacial light]

One thing I wish is you can choose the voices you want to appear when you select random, swapping between the femme or masc voices on death would really push the new helldiver each death motive

[granite rivet]

nah give me random body types, armor, and guns on respawn

that would actually be a fun mode

[south temple]

new planetary mod

[glacial light]

I think random body types is already a thing

Random armor aesthetically would be fun for me

[glacial light]

Go further random stratagems

[granite rivet]

also i know people have said this before but armor variants that are repaints/recolors of existing armors like how the starting armor has 4 variations would be nice

[hallow hornet]

Lowkey this would be a fun temp mode

[granite rivet]

if they're not going to give us color customization at least give us some other way of making the same armor look different

[graceful bluff]

Honestly a random loadout drop could be funny

[hallow hornet]

Would be a good replacement for uh

complex stratagem rerouting

or something

[granite rivet]

planetary modifier: no reinforcement budget

[graceful bluff]

yeah

[granite rivet]

good luck

[hallow hornet]

make your loadout stick around for the whole mission

[glacial light]

Scrambles the stratagem with a stratagem of the same type

[hallow hornet]

oh damn

you know what would be funny

you only know what you call in when you call it in

[granite rivet]

lol

[graceful bluff]

Imagine that instead of your stratagems being chosen at random from the ones you brought, every couple of minutes you get a new set

[hallow hornet]

they'd have to mess with the inputs

[glacial light]

Troll mode would be 1 reinforcement, except everyone starts off dead so only one player is alive and the rest backseat game

[graceful bluff]

as long as they remove the 3 strategem modifier I don't really care what they add :v

[granite rivet]

the thing about helldivers' satire is that it's a grimdark setting with a saccharine coating of lip service to "democratic" ideals

[granite rivet]

some people hear the helldivers going "for managed democracy" and they don't bother to look below the surface

[sinful bay]

Where is that quote of the Starship troopers director saying he made the movie as satirical as possible and people will forever be haunted to see other people that don't get it

[velvet pollen]

they wield the word democracy the same way real world politicians do lol

[stark ether]

full poe's saturation

[glacial light]

You get 5 stratagems but it's all mortars on a bug mission and they automatically call in upon cooldown

[pale remnant]

Good ending, england is destroyed 😌

[velvet pollen]

someone said the same thing in the server i copy pasted it from

[granite rivet]

lmao "great wall of democracy" in china

[stark ether]

i think they genuinely removed the scramble modifier so people would stop reporting it as a bug

[sinful bay]

Good thing we have 3 LAST Rainforest

[velvet pollen]

also missed opportunity to have anarctica as a post-climate change habitable zone imo

[hexed steeple]

superstone park

[graceful bluff]

Madagascar locked it down, as prophecy foretold

lmao great wall of democracy

[glacial light]

I like how Atlantic ocean hasn't changed

But pacific did

[sinful bay]

Brazil is sitll all good ❤️

nuke it

[velvet pollen]

more like superstoned park

[graceful bluff]

I do find it funny that a huge area of Fuckin' Nothing, Russia apparently got nuked

[hexed steeple]

HELL YEAA

that was at superstoned park not the nukes

[steady vine]

We got space for 2 more helldivers in the HA hangout

[granite rivet]

also bits of canada for some reason

[sinful bay]

It was for the vine

[glacial light]

Epic prank gone wrong

[sinful bay]

Super Earth President: I was drunk, sorry

[steady vine]

President got too funny

[blissful sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-vs-alien-monstre-contre-alien-red-bouton-rouge-gif-23484381

[glacial light]

General of the army, crease his Jordans!

[sinful bay]

He found someone in Russia wearing fake Js

[glacial light]

President takes IP very seriously

[dusty spruce]

The Last Great War was just a war on the arctic circle, I guess

[sinful bay]

That makes me question
Do we have private companies in Super Earth or is all Goverment owned?

[glacial light]

I had a thought, flamethrower, mortar, and arc thrower guarddog

Ultimate friendly fire

[south temple]

this is the way

[glacial light]

And for the mortar guarddog every shot Ragdolls the dog and has it fly in a random direction before recovering

[south temple]

make your team hate you in one simple step!

[glacial light]

They can't be angry if they're dead

[sinful bay]

Say that to wraiths

[glacial light]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/rj2j5PHgQm

[sinful bay]

YOU CAN GRAB THOSE?!

[glacial light]

Yup

I would never unless I'm alone though cause that's asking for someones rover to shoot it

[idle hollow]

i love the worf barrels

[sinful bay]

game changer

Time to murder my fps with a cluster of those

[idle hollow]

they tend to drop near the sealed cargo containers too

so you can just drop them at the door and blow them open without wasting a grenade

[sinful bay]

noice

[dusty spruce]

Weirdly enough, the slugger and the arc thrower can open those cargo containers.
Dunno if the dominator or other chunky guns can as well

[stark ether]

dominator can not

annoyingly

[glacial light]

I saw a meme about how slugger and one other non explosive gun can open it but not the jar

[sinful bay]

What if one handed saw-off shotgun

One shot(both barrels) reload

[dusty spruce]

I think the first game had the double barrel you can find as a primary

and a later upgrade made it a sawn-off so it could be one-handed

and then also made it fire phosphorus rounds, because of course it did

[idle hollow]

the AMR can open it

I think the door is medium armour

so anything that breaks medium armour may be able to open it

[modest fiber]

sauce: https://twitter.com/gogalking/status/1766358108232966373

[versed hamlet]

we live in perpetual psychological torment

[idle hollow]

the first rule of the mobile infantry is to have fun and be yourself ❤️

[versed hamlet]

no joke the democracy officer is actually more chill about this than the average Gamer despite being a propaganda enforcement agent

[idle hollow]

he's also voiced by the guy who voiced locke in halo 5 and javik in mass effect 3

[versed hamlet]

Gamers see intense levels of satire and then want to larp it being even worse even if you tell them to stop
I have since made a choice to not play with anyone in a voice call unless it's on this server xd

[quick plinth]

it do be like that

[modest fiber]

doing some roleplay is the fun part.. tho doing it too much, i can see that being an issue, tho the point of "too much" changes between persons so 🤷

[modest fiber]

it do

[keen zinc]

Already seen the larp get taken as a way to punch at furries

[glad marsh]

Eugh

[keen zinc]

Someone drew fan art of their OC as a Helldiver and it got UNDEMOCRATIC ALIEN SCUM REPORT TO BE KILLED THANKS shit in the comments and all their well meaning playing along responses getting down voted

[barren warren]

Fools that they are, the fursuit gives 50% explosive resist

[keen zinc]

Like it wasn't subtle they will use any sort of excuse to ostracize and exclude outgroups

[dusty spruce]

Good ol' Poe's Law

[versed hamlet]

I've seen much less furry bigotry over the last 5 years but I've also intentionally left any place that makes derogatory remarks as soon as I enter

but it also works within cultures through the appeal of being on the top of a power structure
so if someone can do that by just being louder and more obnoxious until people listen to them they will
big facism inspires little facism

[keen zinc]

Yeah, furries are mostly used as a stand in target for someone to veil their bigotry against LGBT people without being openly homophobic

So people can express their xenophobia and intolerance but Only Be Joking

[versed hamlet]

'I was only pretending to oppress you and make your life hell!'
just a prank bro

[barren warren]

Theyre missing out tbh furries are cool as hell

[versed hamlet]

dismissive mentalities are the bane of my existence especially with how intentful and formulaic they can get nowadays

[quick plinth]

and an not insignificat portion of furries are like

[versed hamlet]

nazifurs?

[quick plinth]

highly trained professionals in big important fields

is what I meant to say

[versed hamlet]

that also lol

gotta pay for $300 weekly adopts somehow

[quick plinth]

I'm hoping to one day get my 3D skills to a level to provide that service lmao

[versed hamlet]

but within some furry/lgbt spaces there can be a degree of self loathing than can be worse than just straight up bigotry
because it can creep in and deflect

[cobalt patrol]

While this is fascianting, can i suggest you spin the discussion off to community catina or general?

[quick plinth]

yeah was about to say

[versed hamlet]

fair, sorry

[hallow hornet]

hey please do source art you post please

[velvet pollen]

the existence of a helldivers waifu implies the subsequent existence of an entire superdestroyer full of exact replicas of that helldivers waifu

[modest fiber]

yes yes and yes

[golden ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVsKuysw5Eg

[graceful bluff]

now the question is, does the person making this know both of those are satire

[versed hamlet]

imagine the body type requirements for your superdestroyer changing so all the waifus have to transfer to random ships instead

[golden ledge]

Based on their comments, and just the song choice alone, yes.

[graceful bluff]

there's just a surprisingly amount of people that think both are to be taken at face value

there's people that joined the military because of metal gear

[dusty spruce]

Holy shit why did it take me so long to notice the diver in the back getting a hole drilled in their head?

[undone veldt]

That goes so hard

[glacial light]

Apparently gas has been nerfed?

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTLLNKgQc/

[graceful bluff]

of all things, why

[blissful sparrow]

might be a sideeffect of the fix for not dealing friendly fire

[stone bridge]

yeah, huh

[graceful bluff]

honestly it needs its damage returned and its duration tripled

[dusty spruce]

Yeah, I used it early on hoping it would be a long lasting area denial

But it didn’t feel that great

[hexed steeple]

i was wondering about that. used to be i could just drop it on top of a bug breach and it'd kill off most the small fries

[stone bridge]

Please don't exaggerate to this extent

It's a 75cd stratagem and even shorter with the Orbital CD reduction

[kindred lintel]

its a great tool to throw out consistantly and deal with hordes, or soften up targets

[quick plinth]

maybe just lasting longer

like a bit

in all other respects its fine imo

[honest acorn]

I don’t really want it lasting longer - but I would like more area personally

[quick plinth]

or yeah larger aoe, ons of the two

[meager saffron]

yeah just to stop bugs running out of it

[kindred lintel]

you know it poisons things right?

a dot?

[honest acorn]

I like the duration because it lets you use it offensively, though if it did last a while that would give it an interesting niche

Damage does drop outside of the cloud - I think

It does for helldivers anyway

[blissful sparrow]

it just needs to be greener so you can actually see it when there is a bit of fog

[honest acorn]

That would be nice yea

[graceful bluff]

The gas is always greener on the other side

[kindred lintel]

ive found that the problem regarding that is the particle system they use to depect it in the first place

its slow, and doesn't accurately represent the lasting duration of the field

[sinful bay]

.
That looks
Frail

[graceful bluff]

it is a fastboi medic though

[sinful bay]

Indeed
Should I?
Mmmmmh

[graceful bluff]

probably not meta anymore but it used to be the meta armor

[sinful bay]

Can you elaborate a bit?

[graceful bluff]

armor didn't work, so you wanted light armors

and medic armors are incredibly good

[blissful sparrow]

as everyone had the same HP, having 50% more stims that lasted twice as long made you the tankieT you could be. and also the fastest

[kindred lintel]

Now medium medic armor is my favorite

[graceful bluff]

medium medic is an incredibly good allrounder, and is also in the free battlepass

[blissful sparrow]

medium armor throw range, my beloved

[honest acorn]

Light medic is still really good imo

[kindred lintel]

Bonesnapper (the warcredit one)

[honest acorn]

Though I now prefer stealth armor… a lot of the time because it helps avoid nasty surprises

[barren warren]

time to dive through hell

[rich marlin]

Medic armor is good if you can time your stims well

It looks snazzy too

(I am bias)

[glacial light]

https://www.vxtiktok.com/t/ZTLLF3dYt/

My biggest problem with the medium stim armor is that I don't have a helmet that matches well

[graceful bluff]

I have some white helmet that works well

[candid finch]

I'm still using the light medic armour

I am vulnerable yes but this is when you've got to start hitting from a distance and hiding behind rocks

Be slippery like eel

[sinful bay]

Well Igonna bite the bullet and buy it, thank ya~

[glacial light]

Hello I <@&1206091872716595200> am requesting aid

Just put the ping word randomly in the sentence

4145-6914

[glacial light]

4136-2808

[sinful bay]

YOU WERE RIGHT
STELWART + JETPACK + LIGHT IS

LIFE

[vestal trail]

Consider: Drugs

[sinful bay]

Stroker drugs

[keen zinc]

POWERRR

[barren warren]

💪 thank for for the hell divings we did good work

[steady vine]

Anyone wanna join us for helldiving in Activity 2?

[red steeple]

Great timing

[ripe iron]

101783105

[undone veldt]

I wonder if in the future when the fronts collide we’ll see missions with both bots and bugs

[stiff pine]

https://twitter.com/open_sketchbook/status/1767164561352700099

Erika Chappell - Professional Simpsonsologist (@open_sketchbook) on X

i don’t think it reflects poorly on the circus if they see themselves in the clowns

Twitter · Mar 11, 2024, 12:23 PM

RE: fascists not getting that they're being made fun of in HD2

[meager saffron]

also because there is just not any way to stop fascists from going 'cool fascism'

either sincerely or because they realise it's useful

[cobalt patrol]

Yeah, there;s the nazi bar issue, but that;'s solveable by making it clear they're not welcome

[glad marsh]

Literally every fascist nation satire ever

[naive dragon]

I love this game but if there was one similar to it where your guys were actual good guys and fighting real fascists I would swap in an instant, yeah

I enjoy the satire but

[rich marlin]

Hearing the satire constantly is very draining.

Ive wanted to punch my democracy officer in the mouth since day 2

[stiff pine]

I enjoy it, I want to replace their voicelines with Zapp Branigan quotes

[meager saffron]

I miss Lance Reddick so fucking much

[stiff pine]

also I just logged in to like 100 medals

nice

[naive dragon]

mood

[oak crow]

major order moment

[cobalt patrol]

Way too young. At least when Attenborough goes, he'll have had really good innings\

(and then i'll fucking stab anyone who makes an ai of his voice)

[graceful bluff]

It also really does not help that a lot of people don't seem to know that managed democracy is a real thing

[glacial light]

I can't wait for them to join forces and make charger hulks

Rocket bile titans

[alpine seal]

cyborgs... 2!

[glacial light]

Cyborgs but bugs instead of humans!

[stone bridge]

Its already happened, we should get punching

[cobalt patrol]

<@&1206091872716595200> room for 1 more in HELL DIVIN

[undone veldt]

Instant Railcannon strike

No thoughts only orbital railgun

In fact?

Just nuke the planet from orbit

Don’t even send in the helldivers there’s no stopping that

[glacial light]

Imagine a giant charger with a rocket devastator in an armored nest on top of the charger's back

[daring monolith]

That’s a terrifying thought.

[undone veldt]

Charger cavalry

[glacial light]

Order is important, a charger in an armored nest on top of a rocket devastator is less of a threat

[undone veldt]

Bile Titans acting as war elephants for 12 rocket automatons

[glacial light]

My rocket bile titans would be bile titans but with artillery rocket pods fused to their back that can arc fire or direct fire missiles that explode into bile

The bile is pumped from the bile sac into the missiles

[undone veldt]

Bile missiles on their own sounds like the most painful thing

Bile is terrible

Missiles are terrible

The last thing I want is more both

Blowing up and then running at a snail’s pace

[hot meadow]

bile titan

five chargers

challenging

the spawns are wild lol

[undone veldt]

Jesus

[hot meadow]

I've learned to just, like, go with it

it used to make me tilt

now I embrace the chaos

[glacial light]

I love EATs on bugs

Hard to beat 2 dead chargers every 35 seconds basically

[honest acorn]

Can EATs one shot now?

Or do they just expose armor

[undone veldt]

Not in my experience

I generally need 2 to kill a charger

[hot meadow]

No, but they sure help a lot

[oblique storm]

https://www.tumblr.com/helldivers-2/744703775955206144?source=share

[glacial light]

Expose leg armor

[meager saffron]

leg armor break usually = dead charger shortly thereafter

[honest acorn]

that's definitely good enough

[hot meadow]

I'm using Grenade Launcher, EAT, Rover, and Rocket Pods.

[honest acorn]

yeah

[hot meadow]

just almost a pure charger killing build at this point

[meager saffron]

if more weapons could break even with sustained fire that'd be a great qol increase

[undone veldt]

Honestly one of my favorite things is having like, 2 people run EATs

[honest acorn]

I've kind of soured on the rover, it super good but it also picks fights with every patrol

[hot meadow]

idk how you're really supposed to fight that many chargers though

[undone veldt]

Just a constant stream for the whole team

[hot meadow]

it does feel kinda unfair

[honest acorn]

I'd like that honestly

[hot meadow]

this was difficulty 4, for reference

[undone veldt]

You kinda

Can’t

[hot meadow]

4

[honest acorn]

Chargers feel so binary since you NEED heavy pierce to kill them

[undone veldt]

That many chargers is “throw everything you have and try and get objectives complete as you do” kinda things

[honest acorn]

Or the "weirdo weapons" like the flamer and arc thrower

Also I have come to respect the bomb suit WAY more

I played with a friendly random who managed to tank my badly aimed cluster bombs in it

That shit TANKS

[undone veldt]

Also yah I definitely wish charger armor was like, more breakable by mass fire

Like I pumped 700 Gatling rounds from the exosuit and nothing happened

[glacial light]

Shield + Heavy armor dramatically reduce the chances of dying to friendly fire

[oak crow]

the flamethrower is solid at killing them, just takes a few moments.

[undone veldt]

Because all of them bounced

[glacial light]

I let people know in a bad situation to just drop a single strat on me

[meager saffron]

both flame and arc don't seem to give too much of a shit about the armor

[glacial light]

I will probably survive if physics blesses me

[honest acorn]

Oh yeah my sweaty build for bugs rn is shield/flamer/500k/autocannon sentry

[meager saffron]

but they also don't break it either

which, to be clear, is a fine tradeoff

[honest acorn]

Or sometimes gatling sentry instead of 500kg

[undone veldt]

I don’t have much rn but I don’t feel like I can fight bugs without more eagle/orbital strikes

[oak crow]

would honestly recommend swapping the 1100 pounder for either the airstrike or orbital railcannon.

Railcannon is far better at single target elimination, and in my experience, the airstrike is way more versatile and dependable than the 1100 pound bomb.

[honest acorn]

I like the 500kg because it can ruin a charger or bile titan's day and close bug holes

[glacial light]

I think my favorite build for bugs is boss killer. EATs, shield, railcannon, 500kg

[honest acorn]

And has WAY more uptime than the railcannon

AC sentry is super slept on though

Kills EVERYTHING

[glacial light]

Within 300 seconds I can deal with 8 chargers, 3 titans from a safe distance

[honest acorn]

And provided you protect it a little will keep doing it for a long time

[meager saffron]

aimbot kraber is nuts

[undone veldt]

My friend is a big fan of it

And just from seeing his, yah they fuck up bugs

[glacial light]

And heavy armor is still risky but reliable against bugs you can wade into a horde to get a better throw ona strat against a big one

[honest acorn]

It's kind of upgrade dependent but I went for every single sentry upgrade and its a beast now

[undone veldt]

The ship upgrades are something I’m still kinda saving up for

I don’t really know how many samples I get late game

[oblique storm]

I actually hate it

200% prefer gatlings and machine guns

[honest acorn]

I like the AC more becuse it won't waste its whole ammo pool on blue sparks on a charger

But the gatling sentry is amazing for horde control

[oblique storm]

It will because the charger will just kill it

Like that's my problem

unless you pitch it 2 miles away it just dies

[honest acorn]

The trick is to put them on rocks

Those short of sheer sided rocks that chargers stagger when they ram them

[oblique storm]

I can just toss a machine gun and gatling sentry and boom

Every Problem Solved

[stone bridge]

The autocannon sentry gets drastically better with the turn speed upgrade, too

Just about doubles how fast it tracks

[honest acorn]

I had a AC sentry on a really ideal outcropping and it killed 2 bile titans, 3 chargers, and more of those horrid artillery bugs than I counted

[stone bridge]

Also I would definitely recommend not taking the machine gun sentry

It's...bad

[honest acorn]

That was admittedly, the actual best case scenario for it

[stone bridge]

The ammo pool is horrifically small

[honest acorn]

The MG sentry is nice for teamkilling less which is nice

[stone bridge]

The gatling is wild good

[honest acorn]

Unless it goes "haywire" yeah

Though I've only seen that once and idk why it happened

[oblique storm]

I disagree tbh

[stone bridge]

Even if the MG is less teamkilling, the ammo pool is so nonexistent it's probably gonna get a 33% of the kills

[oblique storm]

It's literally just the MG you can hold

which means it has AP

[hot meadow]

the ammo pool is the problem

imo

[stone bridge]

It is, it also has an extremely small ammo pool

I have all the ship upgrades and the MG still lasts like

No time at all

[honest acorn]

I haven't really noticed MG ammo problems since I got the 50% upgrade

But maybe I've just been putting it in too risky places

[oblique storm]

I'm getting like 15-20 kills per use

so idk

[honest acorn]

That's definitely a good strategem then

The gatling gets more ime but also, you can't run 2 gatlings

And its nice to stagger uptime

[oblique storm]

I like having both

mainly against bugs

because having at least one up can trivialize a breach

[honest acorn]

Another thing randoms have woken me to is airburst

It hits a fucking huge area and does huge damage and hits it like 4 times

"delete bug breach" on like a 100 second cd

[meager saffron]

airburst is bananas

also leads to some extremely funny not!tks where people ragdoll, stand up, then immediately ragdoll again

[glacial light]

I tried gas today against bots and bug and it seems underwhelming against bots

Ok against bugs the calldown seems long

[honest acorn]

Gas was apparently stealth nerfed

Which is a shame because it was very good vs bots previously

[glacial light]

Yea with that latest patch

[undone veldt]

That may have been unintentional

[glacial light]

It needs an area buff and it could be a good bug tech

[honest acorn]

yeah

[undone veldt]

If it was it’ll probably be reversed next patch

[honest acorn]

I think eagle napalm is usually better vs bugs

[undone veldt]

Napalm is just kinda dangerous imo

[honest acorn]

Lower damage but its "enough" damage for littler bugs anyway and makes a much broader firebreak

[glacial light]

Hope so I rarely run any ad clear stratagemz, closest I'd say is airztrikeu

[undone veldt]

I don’t think it does enough to justify lighting yourself on fire so much

[honest acorn]

I have never set myself ablaze with the napalm strike

I have a lot with the flamer and a little with fire grenades