Monster Hunter

[brave hazel]

These things are unreasonably scarce

Seconded. Give this man a Speedo.

[balmy swan]

God I've been hunting commission tickets for so long, I think I've gotten like two

My first one just happened to pop up in one of the early support ship loads, which was nice bc I used it to make the arm pieces with Quick Sheathe; that helped a lot with transitioning to maining GS

Next one I used to make the jawbone GS

Now I need another two to max it 😭

[void narwhal]

it's CRIMES that the game asks us for things that aren't carved from rocks or monsters

[verbal copper]

I would love to hunt king beetles

instead of just waiting for them to show up

I WANT TO FIND STRANGE SINISTER CLOTH

[brave hazel]

Real

At least Sinister Cloths aren't the rarest shit in the game

The jawblade isn't even really that good, but at least you can layer it once you've upgraded it

[balmy swan]

There's better GSes but that combo of high raw + a sliver of white sharpness at max handicraft + innate protective polish has my brain wanting to make a very silly build

[hollow comet]

i still need theseeee

[zealous laurel]

Took me months to get my first comm ticket too. Really wanted the chest piece, but was disappointed with the dye channels for it so never actually crafted it. 🥲

[willow charm]

Wilds is still not running very well, huh

[snow helm]

I have heard some say they broke as much as or more than they fixed with the last update

[balmy swan]

i haven't noticed much of a difference for good or for ill

still manageable performance with occasional texture snap-ins

[hollow comet]

medium improvements on my end

[brave hazel]

Ditto

Lord I hope they fix the issues

[crude kayak]

Had to delete shader cache twice before it would work. Was just before lagi and steve update.

Otherwise it was unplayable slideshow.

[desert light]

Seems to be running a bit better on mine, but it definitely strains my system a little

I get a little bit of judder sometimes, but others running everything maxed with 60fps

Oil well basin is the bit where it gets squirrelly

https://i.redd.it/uvivhq0rwibf1.png

[balmy swan]

widerange builds are goated, shout out to that SnS user who kept the entire team on their feet during my last tempered Steve hunt

[willow charm]

widerange mushroomancer goes crazy

12x max potions go brrrr

[balmy swan]

thinking about doing that for GS, since i put it away to reposition so often anyway

would be a fun side build for when i'm doing co-op hunts

[zealous laurel]

It's kinda crazy how little you have to sacrifice to get speed eating / free meal / wide range 5 now

Stuff like this goes hard for being a hero in harder SoS hunts. (Taken from BK's SnS guide on the MH Gathering Hub discord)

[zealous laurel]

I'd probably switch the chest to Lagi just because I hate agitator and it would give the 2 piece Lagi bonus and room for some comfort skills

[brave hazel]

What's wrong with Agitator?

Free buffs because god knows monsters are enraged half the time

[mystic cape]

It's usually better in MR where enrage is more common

But also it does rely ont he mon being in hard mode

[frank epoch]

Agi is a bit inconsistent and is best when you can beat the fuck out of the mon in a short amount of time

I.E. before they leave enrage

[zealous laurel]

It's objectively a strong skill for sure! My brain just sort of can't come to terms with buffs that aren't either passive or triggered directly by my own inputs, if that makes sense. (Not a huge fan of latent power either, though I know you can sorta force it by taking damage)

[brave hazel]

Fair

...I think I'm still stuck in the World Meta of "Why the fuck do you not have Agitator Secret slotted"

[balmy swan]

Agitator is still popular in Wilds but it seems to be more throwing 1-2 points into it as an afterthought once you've gotten your main skills slotted in

[desert light]

It really depends on the build. My current one is very high agitator and no wex, for example

[balmy swan]

which weapon are you using?

[desert light]

Greatsword

[crude kayak]

Is there any consensus on CB "meta" in Wilds? I'm kind of just doing burst + whatever and go full with savage axe

[desert light]

As always /r/monsterhuntermeta is your friend

[desert light]

https://old.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterMeta/comments/1lseodf/how_are_we_feeling_about_impact_cb_meta/
https://old.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterMeta/comments/1lrt4hm/does_the_update_change_my_cb_build_at_all/
https://old.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterMeta/comments/1lsgfyk/any_changes_to_ele_cb_build/

Consensus seems to be you use your whole moveset now and not just savage axe spam

[crude kayak]

Thank you

[desert light]

You're welcome!

[desert light]

Also I love this oppossum? Emote and want it

[hollow comet]

yeah, I just kind of throw in a level if it's missing at the end

[desert light]

It's partly because you can't just reliably wall bang. It is very good though, like extremely good

[hollow comet]

ahh yeah

[balmy swan]

the deco changes in Wilds also have it competing for level 3 slots with some of the other most popular armor skills like Wex and Burst

but yeah it's still good

getting a reliable raw + affinity boost for half-ish of the hunt is nothing to sneeze at

[balmy swan]

actually, would you mind sharing your reasoning for building for agitator on GS? i have a guess and i want to see if it's correct

and as someone who is also using GS i have a practical interest in the matter as well

[rich valve]

agitator is reasonably good on GL because affinity isn't so good on GL so any buff which provides some raw is more valuable (even if it's also partly affinity)

no idea about greatsword in this game

[zealous laurel]

I think it's just a matter of +20 true raw being a huge boost for any weapon. The affinity is a nice bonus too but we have a ton of alternative ways to boost that.

[desert light]

That's a large part of it. Raw is always always good

[mystic cape]

Except on dual blades where you want elemental damage out the tail

[desert light]

Raw good, I'm often lazy about where I'm hitting the monster, so generalized crit is better for me than specific hit zone crit, etc

[balmy swan]

makes sense

[hollow comet]

anyone know some good looking GS?

GS is the only weapon I've made an Artian for because I copied a build exactly

[balmy swan]

affinity is usually considered a straight damage boost on average, but i was wondering if that generally averages out more evenly over more hits vs. is more "swingy" on weapons that don't hit as often

but "it suits my playstyle better" is a very good reason to have a build be a certain way 😁

[balmy swan]

the Steve GS is pretty neat looking imo. i'm also a fan of Arkveld and Rathian

[hollow comet]

will check em out!

[balmy swan]

my favorite detail on the Arkveld GS is how the cutting edge is made up of bits of chainblade that hang loose when it's sheathed but go rigid when you draw it

feels very much like pulling Arkveld's design into the weapon design and it's just

[hollow comet]

ooohhhhh

that's cool

[desert light]

At least in my current build I have capped affinity without wex, so

That's the other thing, affinity is great until you hit 100% crit chance

[zealous laurel]

Definitely. If you aren't capped on affinity, you'd be more likely to get particularly lucky or unlucky runs (regarding crit rate) on GS vs Dual Blades.

I believe it's also swingier the closer your affinity is to 50%

[visual lava]

honestly, the Artian GS is one of the few Artian designs I actually like

[hollow comet]

yeah it's not bad!

the Lance was the first I made and uhh

eh

[zealous laurel]

Me like rocket hammer

[balmy swan]

gotcha. yeah, so on a slower weapon like GS you get more consistency from increasing raw than increasing affinity

unless you get close enough to 100% affinity ofc

...well good news for my Steve GS build is that Adrenaline Rush gives raw

[visual lava]

almost all weapons want to reach 100% affinity anyways

[willow charm]

define "want to"

having affinity is better than not having affinity

but spending a dozen slots on +20% damage usually isn't worth it

[zealous laurel]

I guess it's just by far the most accessible damage booster on armor skills and set bonuses. I definitely think that for average players like myself, comfort skills can easily be a more effective investment if they significantly improve uptime.

On the other hand, big numbers fun

[balmy swan]

buildcrafting is all about priorities and tradeoffs

i am kind of enjoying how many set bonuses there are in Wilds. idk if it's actually more than there were in World, but it feels like there are a lot of neat little bonuses and niche playstyles unlocked at the cost of having to work with specific pieces of armor

[willow charm]

to me affinity as a mechanic always felt a bit...obfuscating

[balmy swan]

like my Steve GS build has 4x Steve armor for Razor's Edge II. and i gotta figure out which ones i want, what my final piece is going to be, and what i'm going to do with the deco slots that give sme

scratches the same part of my brain as Armored Core 6 did

[willow charm]

like they know "2% damage" sounds bad, so they redress it as "10% affinity" to make it feel more exciting

[outer heron]

"affinity is crits, crits are good :D"

(x% chance for +25% damage)

[zealous laurel]

Haha yeah I feel like probability based crit systems in games are always either completely underwhelming or totally broken. And it's not clear which until you know the upper bounds of the bonuses at endgame.

[outer heron]

pain

[balmy swan]

it does feel like something that was grandfathered in from RPG tradition yeah

i do kinda like what Clair Obscur does with crits but that's because there's a lot of stuff that gives additional effects to critical hits beyond just extra damage. extra resource generation, extra status stacks, even extra attack hits

[zealous laurel]

MH's limitation to 140% damage with Max affinity and crit boost feels very intentional.

I think it's a decent compromise for making your build have a tangible impact on your damage output without outweighing player skill.

[willow charm]

greatsword is the only weapon where affinity really feels worth it beyond weakness exploit

since they can just do three levels in a skill for 100% affinity

[balmy swan]

i've tried crit draw GS builds, but they just feel so boring to me

draw attack > sheathe > reposition > repeat

this is your entire combat loop

(i think with the crit draw changes you can get a fully charged upswing off inside of crit draw's window if you have Focus 3. this is not much more exciting than the above)

i do think the addition of the Fulgur Anjanath set bonus making Maximum Might a bit more viable was neat

[willow charm]

is there another way to play GS?

[zealous laurel]

I mean, you have a lot of skill slots to work with in endgame armor. Comfort skills you don't actually use or need don't really benefit you at all, so by comparison affinity is good value.

[willow charm]

most monsters don't sit there and let you do true charged slash and whatnot

[balmy swan]

that's why you tackle through their attacks while you're charging

or offset them, if you're feeling spicy

[willow charm]

but when they attack they typically move at least a centimeter, which means your attack misses

[zealous laurel]

Like the SnS support build I pasted here yesterday has wide range 5, speed eating 3, free meal 3 while still having wex5, max might, and antivirus 3

[willow charm]

I think having the open slot for max element resistance of the current monster is pretty worth it

[visual lava]

define "worth it". If you want to use comfort skills, that's totally fine and valid. But if you're talking about in the context of damage, then for most weapons, affinity is the most efficient way to increase it, at least once you reach the endgame. The exceptions would be for things like GL shelling or blast ammo which can't crit.

[desert light]

Yup.

Like I, personally, love earplugs 2 in my sets. Why?

I'm good, but I'm not block every roar good. Being immune to roars is the difference between 2+ tcses landing in a fight, etc. That's a lotta damage!

Likewise back in world my Greatswords sets ran evade window 5, because I like having that buffer to easily roll through attacks

[zealous laurel]

Max evade extender with hammer is so fun. Grapple hook across the battlefield into a lunging charged uppercut.

[tardy grotto]

I just (World) got Guard 4 and Guard up on my trip shield HBG

I AM UNKILLABLE

[zealous laurel]

Tower shield super shotgun rips

I never got the glutton to drop, but the zinogre gun was a menace too.

[tardy grotto]

Oh, I'm going pierce ammo

High LR DPS, to draw aggro, then chnk

[visual lava]

It's nice how earplugs is so cheap in wilds compared to previous games

[tardy grotto]

Man, the HBG parry sound is so satisfying

[desert light]

Yeah, I really appreciate it

[vapid quartz]

So true, though I dont run it on sns just for the sweet rush of parrying the roar

[desert light]

You can actually sitll get perfect guards on roars with Earplugs

[vapid quartz]

Ooh

[desert light]

Not a huge amount of reason to do this, other than helping build up the clash meter, but you can do it

[balmy swan]

Can you dodge through roars with earplugs though

Like if you want to activate adrenaline rush

[hollow comet]

hmm, I would guess so you if can still Perfect Guard, since Earplugs negates the effects of the attack, but the attack is still there and active?

gonna farm out the rest of the seregios set this weekend

[balmy swan]

Good luck!

I like the set a lot, tbh. The set bonus, especially the four-piece bonus, really encourages a playstyle where you're constantly pushing your luck and reflexes

[hollow comet]

yeahhh I'm excited

[desert light]

I need 3 freaking laggi sapphires and they made them insanely rare for some reason

[hollow comet]

so much white...

[balmy swan]

Which one is this?

[hollow comet]

mhgu rustrazor longsword

probably gonna say goodbye to my glavenus LS eventually for this

[frank epoch]

Rustrazor LS is really good iirc

[hollow comet]

yeah, it came up first when I was looking up endgame valor LS builds

[mystic cape]

Same

[hollow comet]

just unlocked the deviant, will give it a spin over the next few days

with how tough boltreaver and hellblade are, I'm scared

[tardy grotto]

Question for the Worldheads

Does Offensive Guard trigger on HBG?

[visual lava]

You mean Wilds heads? afaik it should

[real zodiac]

Anyone know if they patched the ds5 pc controller issue?

[brave hazel]

Me votes have been cast for the weapon contest

I really hope that Ice CB gets the W, it looks insanely cool

[balmy swan]

black hole hammer's pretty sick too

these are good designs, though, i don't think i'll be mad about any of them winning

[brave hazel]

Aye, I'm just really hoping for that charge blade

...I'm TRULY praying for the downy crake backpack though

Cutest shit I've seen

[snow helm]

I'm normally a hammer or Swaxe main so the blackhole hammer was a close contender but the mirror GS is also just too cool

[brave hazel]

Aye, that's a pretty neat one too

[desert light]

Got a link for where you see and vote on these?

[teal halo]

hell yeag

A-Temps are back on the menu

[desert light]

And early Uthy Duthy.

[snow helm]

https://www.monsterhunter.com/wilds/en-us/contest/

In the "Participate in Voting and get rewards!" Section they have both the link to vote and a gallery of the finalists!

[desert light]

Yah, i figured it out

[desert light]

Farming lagi is kinda pisisng me off

it's really hard to break his back

and it'

the sapphire drop rate is shite

and i'm so high HR i never g et normal lagi spawns, just tmepred ones

[balmy swan]

yeah i got lucky and SOSed in on an investigation with a guaranteed sapphire

but even that's hard bc everyone's farming him right now so the quests fill basically instantaneously

i think it took like half a dozen tries to get into one

[verbal copper]

||I got three sapphire drops in one quest once. I was baffled.||

[zealous laurel]

Was hoping that omnitool blade SnS would make the design contest finals. But I dig the black hole hammer too!

[hollow comet]

got my first rustrazor ceanetaur down, but I have no idea how I'll break the shell

if I stun it by hitting the face I don't have enough time to go around, so maybe my best bet is to go for topples

legs legs legs

or maybe I could play Aerial

[balmy swan]

Embrace the boing

[desert light]

I know how to reliably spawn lagi (go to the frost peaks and rest for inclemency+ morning - this makes Lagi spawn in the scarlet forest 90% of the time or so)

But even doing that I haven't seen any quests with sapphires, and I've burned a ton of points already

[near bane]

after 10 or so attempts i finally got it, got lucky with the evasion mantle and did a huge combo, im amazed i got such a low time, my last time was 4 min and 44 sec

[desert light]

Wow, very nice

What's the reward talisman?

[hollow comet]

^_^

i like that we've got more armour

this is my desert kinda outfit but I've been getting a bit tired of it

gotta mix it up

[teal halo]

might i recommend a more...evil approach?

demonic, necromantic, theivish, all are fair game

[hollow comet]

:O

[near bane]

They dont tell you, you will only find out when they hand them a bit after the challenge arena ends, i have all 3 doshugma and ray day pendants, doshugma was the hardest so far to get, had to do it 20 or more times, once i even missed A by 1 seconds, if you want i can show you the pendants

The doshugma A pendants is one of my favorite pendants, its on fire

[fierce rune]

finally got a solo A rank on the arena challenge quest woooo

[stiff dust]

overpopulation issue waiting to be solved

[near bane]

i looked it up and i found them, someone must have modded them in or something, here

[desert light]

Oh, those are tempting.

[near bane]

the easiest solo A rank is gunlance aperently

[desert light]

My problem is i have exactly two weapns i know how to play:

Greatswrod and Dual Blades

[near bane]

they have dual blades

[desert light]

(Okay, that's not true, i know bits and bobs of stuff like SnS and Charge Blade)

[near bane]

its in the same kit as the gunlance

the sets

i could join you if youd like

i do gunlance and you can try something else

[desert light]

@near bane Masybe anotehr day, or later? I'd love that, it sounds fun, but i'm ialso just ginrindg my face off vs Lagi atm

2 more pieces to make, 2 more sapphires and 4 more shockspikes (omg his back is stupid hard to break and i hate it)

[near bane]

its up till the 22 so you have time

[desert light]

Well, we beat up lagi so hard he never got to do his water phase

annnnnd we still didnt breka his back

[desert light]

Gdi.

Peopel wasted my sapphire garunteed quesat

but i'm not good enough to solo tempered lagi eitehr yet 😦

[near bane]

try using lance

not hard to learn, had to learn it to defeat doshugma arena

or anything with a shield

[mystic cape]

Charge Blade

[inland ruin]

Charge blade mentioned!!!!!

[mystic cape]

Highly complicated, not recommended if you're still learning a monster to make it the first time you try it

And this is from a 4U joiner, I've known how to Charge Blade since it was introduced

[inland ruin]

I only played rise n gravitated toward charge blade

I wanna play more weapons but when i open the game and charge blade is right there it's hard to resist

[mystic cape]

I know the feeling, I'm an LS main so I usually default to it (though I have dabbled in some others)

[inland ruin]

I also like heavy n light bowgun n lance n I wanna use switch axe more

[frank epoch]

My preference is pretty clear

[desert light]

I would prefer to master greatsword. I dont like the lance playstyle at all.

I'm just grumpy and venting

[near bane]

understandable

i use light bowgun, switch axe, gunlance and lance

i used to be a sword and shield and switch axe main i world but they mixed up the sns so hard i can no longer use it properly without re learning it

every other weapon i either barely know how to use or are inexperienced with

[hollow comet]

I started playing sns in rise, so I'm not too familiar with the slashes in world and wilds

hard basher all the way

[near bane]

i think you might like hammer then

hammer is all bashes

[hollow comet]

😌

yeah I'll give it another shot

i mostly mained it in world, and played the story of wilds with it

[near bane]

its pretty easie to learn weapons in a controled enviorement like a arena

just allot of trial and error

also there is like 500 vids explaning every move set of every weapon

i like lance, you can just say nuh uh to a attack and poke them right back

@desert light want to try doing the arena, i have about 1 hour before the session i have to gm

[desert light]

Nah, it's too late for me (2 am)

def tag me tomorrow or similar.

[near bane]

unfortunate, 3 pm here

i shall see what i can do as tommorow ill probably go to work

[desert light]

No stress, it'll happen or it wont

[vapid quartz]

hammer was fun even when it sucked so its very good now

[zealous laurel]

Having like 3 offsets available as part of your standard combos is so nice.

[balmy swan]

this is how i feel about Wilds switch axe, i'm incapable of playing it without combolocking myself and getting my face kicked in as punishment

[hollow comet]

yeahh

[balmy swan]

but shifting over to GS and CB has been an unexpectedly fun change, so it works out

[hollow comet]

with wilds LS i play way too aggressively

so i had to drop it

[balmy swan]

tbf i think part of the problem is that i developed a very idiosyncratic hit-and-run playstyle with swaxe in World, and it's like... mate if you want to hit and run play GS

[hollow comet]

didn't help that a lot of the early-mid game monsters don't flinch you

and did little damage

so i was just encouraged to mash for 10-15 hours with no consequences

[balmy swan]

i do kinda wanna learn hammer

i off-mained it in World, and the changes in Wilds and especially with the recent patch seem interesting

[zealous laurel]

SnS is insane now

If they give it an offset in the expansion, it will truly good at everything.

[near bane]

In world all i did was use axe to charge up and then spam zero sum discharge with evasion mantle, i did more than this but this was most of it

The light bowgun in wilds is way better than in world, feels like it has a identity that is not just a smaller bowgun, also im sad it doesn't have slicing ammo in wilds

[zealous laurel]

Turns out 5 star tempered Lagi is a lot less scary with a hunting horn and a combat medic SnS in the party.

[desert light]

Yeah, that'd help.

I have also beaten up enough lagis i have 5/8 armor pieces crafted now

so thank fuck

er, wait

7/10 armor pieces*

all of the female set, most of the male set

[zealous laurel]

Nice job, getting all those sapphires and shock spikes is no joke.

I still need to make the legs for my mixed sets, and would like to have a couple weapons for when AT Duna releases.

[desert light]

It took me two lots of getting a quest that drops sapphires

Ihave an investigation saved that's kill a yian and a tempered lagi, and it drops a garunteed sapphire

so that's nice

pfc

ofc*

i still ahve to upgrade this

and you cant even throw lagi parts into the forge for whatever reason, i think?

https://www.mhwildshub.com/builder?data=eyJ3IjpbMCw3NF0sIndkIjpbIkFDQ19JRF8wMDA4IiwiQUNDX0lEXzAwMDUiLCJBQ0NfSURfMDIxNSJdLCJ3YSI6eyJQQVJUUyI6WyJCT05VU18wMDIiLCJCT05VU18wMDAiLCJCT05VU18wMDAiLCJCT05VU18wMDAiXSwiR1JJTkRJTkciOltudWxsLCJCT05VU18wMDMiLCJCT05VU18wMDMiLCJCT05VU18wMDMiLCJCT05VU18wMDUiLCJCT05VU18wMDMiXX0sIndpIjoiU0xFRVAiLCJhbSI6MTIsImEiOls1NzAsNTYxLDU3Miw1NzMsNTc0XSwiYWQiOltbIkFDQ19JRF8wMTI2IiwiQUNDX0lEXzAxNjciLG51bGxdLFsiQUNDX0lEXzAxMjMiXSxbIkFDQ19JRF8wMTcwIl0sWyJBQ0NfSURfMDEzNiIsIkFDQ19JRF8wMTM2IixudWxsXSxbbnVsbF1dfQ%3D%3D

This is what i put together as a build with it

Overcapped on crit if everything is active, but i figure the loss of 0.06 crit damage is worthwile given Latent power is pretty iffy to be active, Maximum Might & Adrenline arent always up, WEX likewise.

[near bane]

you know you only need either set male or female for the layered armor right, they released a new update some time ago, i might be wrong though

just checked, isnt a thing, i remeber it being mentioned somewhere, odd, maybe its in a future update

also do you want to do the arena, i have some time now @desert light

[desert light]

Uh, sure, we can give it a go

lemme grab a drink and shit

[desert light]

Lemme jhust punc hthat in

boo, we missed a

only just thoguh, relatively speaking

[near bane]

by 1 min

want to vc ?

[desert light]

If you think it'll help, sure

[near bane]

at least a little

[desert light]

Carver meal vs Nu Udra is always v funny

[desert light]

Very happy how this set is working out. Nice mix of power and comfy, and it's right behind meta rey dau sets for damage, except you don't have to deal with Guts (Like 1-3% behind, it's a crazy good set)

[balmy swan]

i am so close to finalizing my default sets

i finally got my upgraded Wex and Agitator charms this week, and now i just gotta unlock the Zoh Shia set

(yes, i have yet to hunt HR Zoh, i've been procrastinating)

but it'll be nice to have everything lined up for the return of the ATs

[desert light]

Suggest doing it solo

It's not actually that hard a fight, but idjits love to not do the mechanics and cart instnatly f or it

[balmy swan]

Rip

But yeah, I pretty much always fight monsters solo to start with before I start teaming up with people

Feel like I'm doing both myself and any future teammates a service by actually learning the fight

[zealous laurel]

I'm just happy there are competitive alternatives now to the Gore set bonus.

[hollow comet]

i need to be less stingy with my heals lol

"oh I'm going back to base to grab my supplies and I'll get a full heal from the bed!"

runs away from gravios at 30% hp and gets sniped

-9900z

2 mega pots are not worth 10k 😔

[tardy grotto]

One advantage of my terrible drop luck

I never run out of Zenny

[desert light]

Yeah, Lagi's set is really, really nice

also i just love the set bonuses in this (and in world, and in rise) for how they encourage mix sets

but in interesting ways

rather than Ye Olde Clown from pre-world games

[desert light]

Lol, yes, spam those heals

This is also why i always, always have a far caster on me

so i can just yeeticus outofhereicus as needed

It's amazing how maany things can be solved by IM OTTA HERE

[zealous laurel]

For sure. It's cool to get to optimize around 2 piece and 4 piece. And even the 3 piece group bonus on the rare occasion it's worth building for. (Are any of these worth it outside of Lord Soul though?)

[desert light]

I don't think so?

but i cannot remember

[hollow comet]

oooh true

forgot about that

[desert light]

I do like that the 3 piece bonueses are tied to more broad groups like "Levithan" or "Apex"

Evne if they basically never come up

[zealous laurel]

Yeah it'll be really cool as more gamma sets and we get to mix and match them.

[desert light]

I mean, like, lol, affinity sliding from Levithan set

when am i going to use that?

[tardy grotto]

Affinity sliding is great for World HBG

[zealous laurel]

I guess Mount Master can be pretty fun. Definitely helps that Gore is so good without it though. 😆

[desert light]

I would 100% take mount master over Affinity sliding, lol

But i'm much happier wearing the levi set, it's just such a nice comfy set

Wher comfy is defined as "lol, i have earplugs and divine blessing 3"

[zealous laurel]

The minmaxer in me says "I can just perfect block the roars instead". The realist knows I have around a 10% success rate with this. 😂

[desert light]

Me: Mid tcs. Roar: N- Me: EARPLUGS

stab stab stab stab

[zealous laurel]

New Field Medic fit.

[desert light]

Oh, that's nice

[hollow comet]

agnaktor and duramboros in the same arena is an experience

thank goodness the fence is only down for 20 seconds

[desert light]

Man I miss Duramboros. Justice for my spinny friend

Agnakantor too, I love click click Laser

[hollow comet]

i like the lava influencing the hitzones

annoying when it doesn't dive for a while though

[lethal mirage]

I loved the agnaktor

The duramboros less so

[desert light]

You can melt the armor using a fire weapon, or fire damage sources

[desert light]

But he flies!

[lethal mirage]

Briefly

And often in my direction

Like my cat

But unlike my cat, this one I can't hold with two hands

[desert light]

Hit him inna legs, that'll teach him

[hollow comet]

whaaaaa

the more you know!

should've just stuck with glav LS i guess

I switched to boltreaver astalos hammer

[hollow comet]

aerial hammer with absolute readiness is awesomeeeee

my sharpness is always topped up

and aerial hammer is fun as always

[hollow comet]

GU final boss time 👀

well, sometime after i get home

[frank epoch]

Have you remained unspoiled on the final boss?

[hollow comet]

for the most part!

haven't seen any gameplay at least

they have described it quite a bit

[frank epoch]

Oh man

[hollow comet]

in story

[frank epoch]

I envy you

Ping me when you're done with it lol

[hollow comet]

okiii

not entirely sure if I'll get around to it tonight, but I'll ping you whenever i do fight it

[hollow comet]

I DID IT

@frank epoch

no heals left at all

killed it by stepping on a barrel bomb

what a cool fight

[frank epoch]

right??

god its so good

[verbal copper]

Hell yeah

[hollow comet]

yeahh :D ||generally not a big fan of Huge Monsters in any genre, since the depth of interaction kinda lowers, but this one was fine enough especially with the spectacle and the fact that it's not huge, and you can beat it back into pilot mode||

[halcyon fractal]

wait which final boss was it?

Was it ||Ahtal Ka?||

[frank epoch]

Yeah

[hollow comet]

[hollow comet]

i really don’t like silver rathalos

dunno what to do, i used all 19 flashes

maybe i’ll try hammer

not being able to safely go for head or tail complicates things a lot

i’ll look for mind’s eye

[mystic cape]

Are you in World?

[hollow comet]

GU

[visual lava]

silverlos is a pain in the butt, yeah

[void narwhal]

ogh they were brutal in GU, idk how Non-Insect-Glaivers dealt with all that

all the Rath variants were kind of a slog tbh

( nonstandard i mean )

[hollow comet]

got it down with aerial hammer but my goodness

i don’t have enough flashbugs for this

32 mins

got 2 mantles at least

and that wasn’t even the hyper!

maybe valor LS with Mind’s Eye will work out

[tardy grotto]

Just use HBG

[hollow comet]

also you can just walk back from the 4 explosion fireball

i do not enjoy bowguns in this game

[void narwhal]

i have to assume i caused myself some sort of wrist damage for bowgunning all the DS era

[frank epoch]

Lord help you if you want to play SnS

[hollow comet]

chaos oil 3 😔

i do want to play sns eventually..

[frank epoch]

The quest to unlock the Chaos Oil III hunter art is ||hunt a G rank hyper silver rathalos and a G rank hyper gold rathian at the same time in Ruined Pinnacle, where they constantly come to each other's aid in cramped zones||

[hollow comet]

🙂

i need to go for the tail

playing hammer for 3 hunts made me forget that

[hollow comet]

maybe I'll host a lobby for hyper silverlos over the weekend

i love getting hit for 70% by an enhanced fireball

could try to pack some more fire res but i really don't know if i can give up wex or mind's eye

Will reducing the support moves a palico knows make them use the others more often?

Thinking of giving my palicos only Flash Bombay and Health Horn

reading that they're cooldown based

also morale level affects combat?? the more you know

[frank epoch]

I might join you depending on my schedule!

Hyper silverlos is a butt but I've hunted him to death at least

One of the few hunts that I do greatsword instead of hunting horn

[hollow comet]

that would be fun!

i'll give you a ping (or you could ping me too)

what time zone are you in?

[frank epoch]

CST

[frank epoch]

9:34AM for me currently

[hollow comet]

ooh oki

I'm EST

just an hour ahead

I'll be available this evening and most of sunday, tomorrow is a bit nebulous but may work

[frank epoch]

I'll let you know, got a busy weekend so I can't make any promises

[hollow comet]

gotcha, no worries

[near bane]

wait you can disable palico moves ?

also hammer time would be nice, would like to join if i can

[hollow comet]

sounds good, i’ll ping both of y’all

[hollow comet]

yeah, the support moves let you assign some from a list they have learned

[hollow comet]

oh goodness, rustrazor g5 is an arena fight with gravios and glavenus, but they don't wait for you to kill the first unlike that 5-in-a-row in HR

aerial hammer vs gravios is unpleasant

[hollow comet]

@near bane @frank epoch I'll be available in about an hour for most of the next several hours, though I likely won't play that whole time; let me know if any of that period works for you

[near bane]

yeah i have The time

[frank epoch]

I will not be unfortunately, wife is playing Yakuza. Sorry!

[hollow comet]

gotcha gotcha

[hollow comet]

@near bane sorry for being late, i'll hop on for about an hour if that works for you

[near bane]

unfortunately chores are creeped up and im no longer available

usually im available from <t:1753038000:t>, thats the time i get home normally from work

that is if its not one of the days that im in a session or gming one

[hollow comet]

no problem!

[near bane]

im cooking dinner at the moment

[hollow comet]

[near bane]

some other time then

[hollow comet]

mhm!

[near bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1210152362694680606/1395493363519848578/20250717_202110.jpg?ex=687e9a78&is=687d48f8&hm=3dced39d3c812465146c1eec0d22222d95370efee8ef384a48bccbbde989e4a4&

have kittens

[hollow comet]

generally available past <t:1753050600:t> most days

[hollow comet]

yippeeeee

[near bane]

thats 11:30 pm for me

[hollow comet]

oop

weekends will probably work better for us then lol

[near bane]

yup, definitely

probably Saturday as i have a game at <t:1753030800:t>

on sunday

today it was canceled

[hollow comet]

oh... I have a game on saturdays at <t:1753038000:t>

😭

and another event 2 hours before

[hollow comet]

just rustrazor left in the g5 quest for tmrw

i have little experience against it with LS, going to play carefully and try to avoid tanking too much with valor sheathe

out of immunizers

heals are lookin ok, maybe 15 megas and 4 potions

nervous

I had to use smokes to avoid a 2v1 against glavenus and gravios

[brave hazel]

Apparently that one fiery seikhret skin I've seen floating around is gonna be part of the content that drops with tomorrow's big hub event

Which is nice, I was expecting Capcom to try and microtransaction that

[hollow comet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QIn466YseM

tldw: they add an input grace period for multi-button inputs like R2+x/o (special sheathe/foresight), it's 3 frames for spirit thrust and fade slash, but 4 for foresight, and 7 for special sheathe

the catch is that the 7f input buffer ALSO applies to the single-button followups to Special Sheathe (Iai Spirit Slash and roll), so you have to counter 7f early and your roll out of sheathe feels hella sluggish

which there is absolutely no reason for

I thought my performance and skill issue was why I had hit 1 ISS since launch, but this definitely contributes

[potent kraken]

Hello. I play MH worlds

[rich valve]

oh I thought it was part of the paid bundle that releases at the same time as the festival

but the website does have a picture of it under "people who log in during the event will get this"

ah there's two different fiery seikret armours and one is paid dlc

[desert light]

Event and AT uth duna are all live

[brave hazel]

Hell yeah

Hope the Cornpopper is as unreasonably good as ever

[desert light]

AT Uth Duna down solo

15 minutes, one faint due to bad luck (Got caught ina bellyslide that stuck me agianst terrain and crushed me)

2 "fake" faints, thank you moxie and cat.

[zealous laurel]

Uth Duna Gamma legs looking niiiiiice

2 Lagi / Lord Soul build gonna have some comfy options now.

[desert light]

3 quick sheathe/1 agi is very nice, yeah

great slots too iirc

[zealous laurel]

For sure, stoked to have more level 1 flex slots to work with.

[zealous laurel]

Hot dog!

[brave hazel]

Wish the Seregios armor had a cape

Feels like it's missing one somehow

Like it was designed to have a cape and then the cape was just removed

[zealous laurel]

Those big pauldrons would certainly make a good cape-hanger. Though I'm okay with not having to see it clip with my giant axe. 😆

[candid perch]

YIPPEE I MIGHT ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME AGAIN

[hollow comet]

what hammer is that?

[potent kraken]

Time to find out when the next sale is and if MHWi wild turn my laptop into an elephant foot

[balmy swan]

Do mind the specs, performance is still pretty rough

[balmy swan]

Dangit, I just retooled my GS build, now I'm gonna have to do it again

[brave hazel]

Yeah, reviews are abysmal thanks to how awfully it's been optimized

No doubt due largely to investors breathing down everyone's necks to push the game ASAP, quality be damned they want their endless money generation NOW and they will throw tantrums and sue if they don't get their way

[potent kraken]

That’s why I said elephant foot. If it runs it may melt my pc and I’d like to avoid that.

[balmy swan]

Yeah that's sensible

[potent kraken]

So benchmark it is

Still trying to find out how much ram n vram I have though

[balmy swan]

Mostly I'm just trying to say, there are games where you can skate by on "good enough" specs. Wilds is not one of those games

[potent kraken]

Duely noted.

[hollow comet]

whoaaa

i'll have to pick that up

[zealous laurel]

Zaccio's Execution (Rank 8 Xu Wu hammer)

[hollow comet]

ty!

[desert light]

Eh, unless you're crazy good, I think you're much better off going Lagi 4 + numinous chest

Guts relies on you not getting punched in the face repeatedly, and rapidly stops being good if you constantly have to stop and heal to avoid loosing the 5% buff

[zealous laurel]

I dunno, don't you only lose the buff if it actually saves you from carting?

[balmy swan]

That was my understanding too

Unless the Uth Duna gamma set works differently from the Rey Dau gamma set

But either way I'll have a peep when I actually get in game

Wait no I think ZP is referring to Peak Performance, which iirc is on the regular Uth Duna armor and should be on the AT version as well

And yeah I probably won't go for that. But the legs might still be useful if I'm building for Lord Soul

2 pieces of AT Rey is still enough to get the Latent Power extension

I can take or leave Latent Power, but Lord Soul/Guts is so good that it's worth building around

[zealous laurel]

Yeah... Not a huge fan of LP either, but I can't bear to "waste" the Rey gamma 2 piece set bonus. I guess it does at least have pretty good uptime with that bonus.

Definitely looking forward to having even more apex gamma sets to mix and match.

[balmy swan]

I feel like AT Nu Udra giving both Lord's Soul and boosted Resentment has some interesting possibilities

A bloody nose build with a bit of a safety net built in

[zealous laurel]

Get hit to hit harder- sounds like a riot. 😂 Pair with LP and counterstrike.

[desert light]

Yes, but if you're constantly stopping to heal so you're not loosing the buff, then your uptime is functionally dropping

[hollow comet]

turns out i don't need hyper silverlos, just silverlos for my build

thank goodness

[zealous laurel]

Oh, healing more often that usual because of the defense penalty?

[balmy swan]

and you have to keep your health over a certain threshold in order for the free revive to trigger

honestly though i tend to keep my health topped up regardless because high-level hunts are so oneshot-happy

[zealous laurel]

AT Duna body slam takes no prisoners

[verbal copper]

To celebrate a summer festival, I I present this outfit.

Presenting a hunting horn near you

[zealous laurel]

If I saw that guy threatening me with a giant saxophone, I would flee immediately.

[brave hazel]

Oh fuck the ice CB made it to the finals

Maybe I'll be getting it after all

[hollow comet]

aww, the diva horn didn't make it

but my 2nd fav is the shatter GS

[lethal mirage]

Aww, my friend's design didn't make it

[brave hazel]

What was their design?

[zealous laurel]

I NEED that hammer

[balmy swan]

yeah, once again, not going to be mad whatever wins. these are all bangers

one of crowmunist's followers apparently was the designer for one of the ones that made the cut for the last round, but i never did find out which one so i don't know if it made it to this round

[tardy grotto]

My only complaint is the criminally low number of Bowgun entries

[lethal mirage]

This one

[hollow comet]

finally beat rustrazor g5

Fade Slash is pretty good, actually

aaaand still missing scalps

[desert light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5kKmvukXVc

The new zoh shia meta is here

[inland ruin]

I should play wilds again but uh lazy :3

[brave hazel]

Aw, man, I kinda wanted that one to win

[hollow comet]

from that rustrazor g5

once I started going for glavenus' head things went a lot easier; didn't realize the hitzones are 65 or 70 compared to 25-35 on the body

[brave hazel]

Weapon contest winners tomorrow :3

I hope they add in two weapons like they did with World

With both Black Eagle and Wyvern Ignition getting the win

[zealous laurel]

Praying for the gravity hammer. 🙏🏼

[brave hazel]

...tbh if they do go for two winners like I think they might it'd absolutely be the black hole hammer and the black hole longsword

Since they both share a strikingly similar visual motif

[zealous laurel]

I wouldn't be surprised, nor would I complain if this was the case!

[brave hazel]

Seconded, they both kick ass

[hollow comet]

is round 2 voting closed?

[desert light]

I'm holding out for the Glass Greatsword

[hollow comet]

sameee

[brave hazel]

I'm personally holding out for that ice CB

I yearn for a chainsword

Though tbh I'll be happy with whatever wins, they're all sick as hell

The magical girl charge blade is absolutely inspired

[balmy swan]

sigh

i don't... need to max out my lagi swaxe to fight AT Uth Duna, per se. i have plenty of maxed out sets that i could use.

but i was kind of hoping

unfortunately my attempts to farm a lagi sapphire are being hampered by 1) how quickly lagi investigations fill up and 2) how often they fail

[potent kraken]

Time to launch the benchmark on my laptop. Lets see if we get a fire

[brave hazel]

Did they ever reveal the winner of the weapon design contest?

Thought that was supposed to be today

[rich valve]

No I don't think that's until like September
They revealed the like 8 finalists

Yeah Sept 27 is the winner announcement

[brave hazel]

...ah

I may be stupid

[desert light]

Go to ice cliffs. Rest for inclemency+ morning

This causes at least one Lagi to spawn 90%+ of the time in the forest.

Repeat until you see one with the sapphire in the rewards

[balmy swan]

Duly noted

I think I may end up just taking on AT Duna with the GS or CB, though

I've been having this really weird on-again, off-again relationship with the swaxe in Wilds

[zealous laurel]

Is its kit fun? I haven't tried swax since my earliest hours in World.

[balmy swan]

It's fun if you like big, flashy, explosive combos, yeah

I have a bit of a personal issue where I developed a particular relationship to it in World that doesn't quite work with the changes in Wilds, so the Wilds version is not quite the weapon I want it to be

But that's just a me thing. I think that objectively it's a perfectly enjoyable weapon

[zealous laurel]

Nice, that makes sense. I have a similar issue with the Charge Blade in Wilds. Feels weird being dependent on perfect regards or focus strikes to get into Savage Axe mode.

[balmy swan]

Yeahh, that feels weird to me too honestly

Though I didn't play much CB in World so I don't really have a comparison point

[potent kraken]

Is wilds worth the price?

[balmy swan]

For swaxe, I remember when they said they were nerfing passive switch gauge regen in favor of building it up via axe mode my initial reaction was "nice, they're encouraging people to use axe mode more"

But ironically I think it's actually had the effect of reinforcing the idea that using axe mode is a tax for getting access to sword mode, and not something worthwhile in its own right

[balmy swan]

If your rig can run it well, then yes. But that's a pretty big if right now

[potent kraken]

46fps

On average

[balmy swan]

That's potentially tolerable, depending on your preferences and whether it's stable. But there's also graphical glitches to worry about

[potent kraken]

Stable. Glitches like what?

[balmy swan]

The infamous "origami" low-polygon models, random black masses in the overworld, weird stuff like that

I wish I had more helpful advice, but from what I've seen and heard, 1) it's really hard to predict how well a particular setup will run the game, and 2) when it's bad, it's bad

I think the best advice I can offer is to keep in mind that you can get a refund on the game within 2 hours of playtime and 2 weeks of purchase

[potent kraken]

Thank you

[zealous laurel]

Yeah, definitely worth it if you like World and it runs at a level that is acceptable to you.

[zealous laurel]

That's a shame. Maybe it will improve as fights get harder and the extra mobility of axe becomes more important?

For CB, the early game fights I just wanted to spam savage axe swings constantly. But I can imagine that blocking is a lot more important against the new, tougher guys.

[brisk dirge]

that is kinda how swaxe has always been unfortunately

[balmy swan]

I definitely got to the point in World where I appreciated axe mode for its mobility and a certain degree of utility (eg chopping tails/hitting flying monsters with the upswing, which has really good vertical reach)

To the point where I had a very distinct combat loop of "maneuver in axe mode, switch to sword mode for burst damage when there's an opening for it, disengage back into axe mode, repeat"

I've not quite been able to replicate that in Wilds for some reason

I think part of it is the increased animation commitment on the upswing (since it's now an offset) and the third hit of the primary axe combo (what is now the spiral burst slash) makes it a lot harder to poke and retreat with the axe, which was honestly its main strength in Iceborne

So you really might as well just use sword mode and do more damage in that case, since you'll have a comparable experience managing animation commitment

I'm not sure there's really any way to make axe mode compare to sword mode in terms of damage output without ruining the distinction between the two modes. If axe mode is ever to be more than a sword mode use tax I think it would need to lean into utility more

Like idk, if the increased partbreak/flinch/trip damage was inherent to it and didn't require the upkeep tax of the power axe heavy slam? That would actually create kind of a nice loop where you're using axe mode to set up openings to exploit with sword mode

But idk, I'm just spitballing. All I can really say is that the Wilds version of swaxe has lost some of the sauce for me

[brave hazel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1mbkndp/monsters_if_they_were_crabs/

[potent kraken]

46fps

[balmy swan]

username checks out

[zealous laurel]

It ain't much, but it's honest work.

[halcyon fractal]

with 59 seconds and 40 miliseconds to spare!

[desert light]

Not even an AT duna, lol

just a normal arse duna

https://old.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1mc74z4/the_new_talisman_endgame_will_release_in_august/

Translation:

[Ver. 1.021 Update Release Date Announcement]

The "Endgame Expansion" feature, originally scheduled for release in early August, will be implemented earlier than planned in the Monster Hunter Wilds Ver. 1.021 update, which was originally scheduled for the third title update (late September).

As a result, the release date has been changed from the originally planned early August to the following date.

■Ver. 1.021 Update Release Date Wednesday, August 13, 2025

■Main Features - Addition of new high-difficulty quests - Addition of new talismans that randomly grant compound skills (as rewarded by the above quests) - Weapon balance adjustments 　*Expanding the target weapon types is also planned - Various adjustments and improvements

We will provide further details about the update at a later date.

We apologize for keeping you waiting, and we appreciate your understanding and support.

EDIT: Also they are going to extend the Flamefete festival and the Free Challenge Quest of Uth Duna 1 week more.

[rich valve]

I don't much like it when anyone references being a member of the master race either to be quite honest

[daring current]

Oh yeah I really dont like it either. That phrase was in their words and I shoulda put quotations.

i was just tired and on a bit of a high from excitement of new M Rank MH 👁️

because hell yeah Master Rank approaches

[rich valve]

i mean im not sure why in the monster hunter thread we're evaluating your chat somewhere else but it doesnt look like you added any context that wasnt you just bringing it up yourself

[daring current]

A

My bad. Im just trying not to shoot myself in the foot over words I used. 👁️

imma delete it so it doesnt devolve

NEW RANK IN TWO WEEKS RAAH

[daring current]

I apologise once again. It's a common thing for me to kinda ask if im in the wrong in certain situations, leading to that. i'll just trust my gut next time and leave things out of pnet. i just trust this place 👁️

Very friendly.

[rich valve]

I'm cautiously optimistic about random talismans, i know not everyone likes the rng but it's the sort of think i think i will probably like

[daring current]

Oh yeah that's gotten me iffy too. Random decors already had me ehhhh

but HOPEFULLY you can meld Talismans

[tardy grotto]

So no Iceborne for Wilds?

[daring current]

H A

[rich valve]

there's almost certainly going to be a wilds expansion

this isn't adding master rank

[daring current]

dam

[rich valve]

this is going to be like 9 star quests or something im pretty sure

maybe some other format

[daring current]

still, im curious as to what they'll do seeing as we already have AT Rey Day and Uth Duna

AT Zoh Shia?

[tardy grotto]

AT Jin Dahaad

[daring current]

sounds kinda fun actually

[rich valve]

I'm assuming that AT Nu Udra will be around TU3 and Jin Dahaad around TU4 but I'm not sure

[hollow comet]

mhm, same

[rich valve]

given that they're willing to drop it in a random non-title patch I am not expecting "new level of quest difficulty" is anything significantly more expansive than "monsters with big numbers" but I am willing to be surprised

[hollow comet]

as long as it's relatively easy to get something workable, then you can get smaller improvements from there, i'm happy enough

rise lets you choose the skills

still looking for a good Tenderizer with 3 slots in GU

[daring current]

Still, AT Jin Dahaad sounds VERY interesting 👁️

[zealous laurel]

Oh man, buildcrafting around rng talismans is going to drive me mad. I'm here for it.

[brave hazel]

Anyone wanna try AT Uth Duna

[near bane]

mods can defenetly fix that

[hollow comet]

finally finished upgrading my LS

😌

the scalps only dropped from a certain level of the deviant's quest, so i wasted time farming the one below it 😭

[balmy swan]

Rip but congrats

Feels good to finally finish the farm

[hollow comet]

mhm!

[brave hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuGBZvaJYaw

[teal halo]

Zoh Shia deserves better

Unlike arkveld, it wasn’t something preexisting. It’s completely new. But it was designed to destroy, and so it does. And whose fault is that?

[mystic cape]

Society's

[tardy grotto]

The Wyverian's

[teal halo]

Exactly

[tardy grotto]

But

While I do feel sorry for Zoh, I still agree it should be nuked

[teal halo]

The armor is cool as all hell

[tardy grotto]

Also, whether it means it or no

It's still a walking ecosystem killer

[teal halo]

That it is

I am still kissing it and xenojiiva on the head

They are sisters to me

[tardy grotto]

....they really are the same vibe

[halcyon fractal]

STORIES 3

https://youtu.be/5T20f6z_Y4A?si=VtCYGvXjWucKZmGw

[rich valve]

i didnt expect a trailer where monsters are being used for feudal warfare and mowing down a bunch of knights

[dawn prism]

Beeg magnamalo

[desert light]

It doesnt actually surprise me? Like if you extrapolate out the mosnter hunter world, it's a pretty natural extension of things

Like we know that canonically, the Hunter's guild has an assination wing. THat's not a fandom thing, if you go back to older games, you can find the descriptions in various armor pieces and weapons, including light bowguns disgusied as umbrellas.

Why do they have an assassination wing? Poachers.

Because "Pissed off the local elder dragon" is a problem you have to worry about in the monster hunter world, Poachers are a bit more of a bigger deal.

...so yeah, folks learning to tame Dromes and use them against others etc makes perfect sense. (Now, how domesticable a lot of the monster hunter beasties actually are... I have my doubts. Riders expclitly use some kind of werid magic thing, iirc, so i doubt it's generalizable. We know some of the big herbivores have been domesicated, but others like Diablos are almost certianly in the "You want to WHAT you idiot" category.

Like zebra or hippo in real life)

[rich valve]

Oh yeah I know it's like a natural extrapolation it's just they've not really depicted it before

Despite the presumed purpose of Zoh Shia, Wilds is pretty careful to go "we don't use these weapons on people don't worry"

It's one thing to have in flavour text vs on screen

[desert light]

iirc, Wilds is expcltiyl talking about the Hunter's weapons not being used on people.

But hoenstly, this is where it gets kinda messy, someoen crunched hte numbers once - if you had the strength to move a greatsword the way it gets moved in game, you could simply dismantle the monsters by hand, the greatsword is just showing off (and giving you reach)

And ofc, hunters shouldnt be able to do things like get full on blasted by Gravios heat-lasers or similar and be fine

(Which is why i subscribe to the "Monster Hunter is a low magic post-apoclyptic setting, hunters have super-solider blood in their ancestary, and gear made from monsters literally is magical to a degree, which is part of why hunters can surive the shit they do)

[dawn prism]

That magic is bioenergy

[dawn prism]

You'd think they'd use dbs as the example instead since it's more of a short range 2 handed weapon

[twin ibex]

I really like her.

Really nice adventure lady design.

[naive elk]

?

[twin ibex]

No, stop it!

[brave hazel]

Hope we see some Wilds monsters

I'm mostly excited because we'll get some actual worldbuilding about the setting

[outer heron]

like why every rathalos is named ratha

[teal halo]

Lack of creativity

[teal halo]

Nata deserves to be a rider and his bonded monster should be an arkveld

[desert light]

Greatswords was used because it's implicitly ridiculous. Also because the results are funny

[teal halo]

Why are they called bowguns when they aren’t bows nor do they shoot arrows

[tardy grotto]

They have the crossbow limbs

[potent kraken]

And they go “thwack” (not the band) whenever you shoot em which sounds a bit like a bow.

[inland ruin]

They gun like a bow :clueless:

[tardy grotto]

It could be some form of crossbow firing cased ammunition, and using the recoil to cycle the bowstring

[rich valve]

they were invented by charlotte bowgun

[mystic cape]

I always likened them more to mortar launchers than actual guns given the size of the rounds

[lapis juniper]

Do people still play World?

[hollow comet]

i would be if i wasn't on a GU kick rn

still have to give raging brachy another go

[zealous laurel]

A lot of them look like repeating crossbows, though it's a mystery how they wind themselves. 😆 This is why I use the Rey Dau LBG skin, which I think is implied to accelerate the projectiles like a rail gun.

(Okay, the real reason is that it looks rad as hell, not ease of suspension of disbelief)

[tardy grotto]

I do

[lapis juniper]

Nice

I'm mostly asking so I don't feel alone logging on lmao

[dawn prism]

me when the bowgun is basically just the regular action game gun gameplay wise:

[zealous laurel]

Me when the bowgun almost feels like Lost Planet. 🥹

[willow charm]

World still has way higher steam player counts than any other Capcom game last I checked

[tardy grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955964454087061505/1402810197034143885/image.png?ex=6895444d&is=6893f2cd&hm=67dd662d5fd98a82c98d4d308eea11e30282d102d500979f53b6599c8fdf949e&

[desert light]

No lie though, that's generally the correct answer to the trolley problem

Reject the premise you can't save all 6, find the answer that saves everyone

[zealous laurel]

The Guild authorizes you to slay the Guardian Trolley.

[mystic cape]

They could do it too

[hollow comet]

took down amatsu a couple of times in GU, pretty enjoyable fight 😌

tough but not too much

[willow charm]

My top 10

1. Diablos
2. Pukei-Pukei
3. Nargacuga
4. Malzeno
5. Mizutsune
6. Zinogre
7. Glavenus
8. Kulu Ya-Ku
9. Teostra
10. Bazelgeuse

[hollow comet]

ooh, I'll make one when I'm done work

what's the context of this top 10 :3

[willow charm]

felt like it 🤷‍♀️

[hollow comet]

oh, i meant is it favourite fights, designs, general, etc.

[willow charm]

ah. I'd say overall opinion of the monster. like, mitutsune and kulu wouldn't be quite as high if i was just rating fights but I really like the design, and inverse for malzeno and teostra

[dark juniper]

Trying to figure out what each shelling type in risebreak is best at, but everything I can find on that is from before title update 5 which buffed wide shelling 🫠

[potent kraken]

Which games?

[willow charm]

Monster Hunter

[potent kraken]

Which ones

[willow charm]

i'm not really thinking specific game appearances, just which monsters i like the most overall

like. which monsters i would be the most happy to see in a new game

[dark juniper]

Best we can figure out is that normal is best for full burst (of course), long is decent at everything but doesn't excel anywhere, and wide is... best for pure shelling and maybe poke shell?

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) Trying to figure out what each shelling type in risebreak is best at, but everything I can find on t…

...starting to wish there was only one shelling type that was just good at every playstyle ngl

[hollow comet]

shelling types have intimidated me a little when trying to pick a GL to craft

[potent kraken]

Which game?

[near bane]

https://info.monsterhunter.com/wilds/update/en-uk/Ver.1.021.00.00.html

patch notes are out

interesting

what ?

[potent kraken]

Okay so if I mount something my homies deal less damage but more of that lessened damage

[near bane]

lance got quite the slew of buffs

insect glave got a few buffs and a bunch of fixes

ligh and heavy bow gun got a few buffs

bubbly dance got a buff

[hollow comet]

I'm historically horrible at ranking things ordinally but my tentative top 10 is:

1. Glavenus
2. Malzeno
3. Astalos
4. Ahtal-Ka
5. Velkhana
6. Gore Magala
7. Valstrax
8. Rey Dau
9. Legiana
10. Zinogre

[hollow comet]

rise

[near bane]

WOOOOOOOO

[hollow comet]

I wanted to make the primordial malzeno one, but I need a gem and I was far too rusty the last time I played

niceee

[near bane]

lol

[potent kraken]

I think it’s neat that I get more bar per pierce ammo

[mystic cape]

They're bringing back RNG talismans

Hate

Hate it so much

[void narwhal]

I shall as I ever do, pretend the system does not exist

also they keep buffing Dual Blades and I don't understand as it's felt rather potent but yay hurray

[potent kraken]

More DB-HBG runnings

[dark juniper]

…okay well there’s apparently an iceborne overhaul mod that does that alongside many other things
https://github.com/AsteriskAmpersand/Ice-Stable?tab=readme-ov-file

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) ...starting to wish there was only one shelling type that was just good at every playstyle ngl

Guess we’ll try that out at some point in the future

Also we just learned about surge slash greatsword in rise and it looks really fun, shame you have to get to sunbreak to use it 😔

[near bane]

just use a mod, im sure they will make one to remove the rng

[void narwhal]

PS5 version baybee

But also I don't sweat the minmaxing all that hard

[dark juniper]

Maybe we should learn greatsword 🤔
But we’re not very good at predicting what a monster is going to be doing, we usually just react as they’re doing something

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) Also we just learned about surge slash greatsword in rise and it looks really fun, shame you have …

[hollow comet]

rightttt

it looks so fluid! and yeah i'm not great at reading a monster well in advance so I just use Strongarm Stance 😭

[desert light]

The thing is at least in wild, between table and offset you have plenty of tools to crump monsters good, despite what they're doing

[hollow comet]

Alatreon is terrifying

[potent kraken]

I am not going anywhere near it, ever. Not gonna do it.

I choose life

[mystic cape]

Alatreon is a pretty significant blocker to the end of Iceborne and with a totally sick theme

[dark juniper]

We were talking about Rise 😅

The Zombie Penguin (They/Them) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) The thing is at least in wild, between table and offset you have plenty of tools to crump monsters g…

[hollow comet]

not sure why I didn't dive, but I was probably thinking about rolling off the fireblight

[desert light]

TO BAD WILDS ONLY 😛

[dark juniper]

We don't have any hope of running Wilds on anything for at least the next few years

[desert light]

Also, they just brought back Spiral Slash for the DB ❤️

Now you can focus strike, and yeither do the Spinal Yeet

Or you can hit Y again and just do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=TLGGu8FfTH29kBgxMzA4MjAyNQ&time_continue=5&v=ieWSzmmnwCo&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.monsterhunter.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE

[desert light]

https://i.redd.it/g5536ymsnpif1.png

[desert light]

9 stars are pretty fun

seems very status resistnat

[near bane]

https://www.nexusmods.com/monsterhunterwilds/mods/3030

found a really useful looking mod

[tiny wind]

been going béck to rise and the db in that game are too diferent from the db in wilds

thow of my muscle memory

so i 3pay LS apparently

[hollow comet]

not even close 😌

pretty cool fight, a little more satisfying than amatsu in dodging the mechanics but not as much of a cool factor

also it doesn't keep its head down a ton even with LS's reach, but going for leg topples wasn't too miserable (especially since it has a couple of fast, high-damaging, front-targeting moves)

[near bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAe3958uTB8

[desert light]

Iirc, the nice thing is these are only barely stronger than t3 charms

[near bane]

Depending on the build they can be, some charms only give 2 levels

You can get allot out of them minor skill wise, also great for extending weapons skills

[desert light]

Yeah, I'm just happy they're mostly side grades, or better if you want comfy etc, not "have this or eat shit"

[zealous laurel]

Yeah I think the ability to get more weapons skills gets increasingly attractive as we get more and more armor skills efficiency.

I am pretty relieved they didn't put the unique weapons skills on the roll table though, because those can actually make or break a build.

[desert light]

See all the discussion above?

It's also been out like, 24 hours

[near bane]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVR9-jA-3Eg

i feel bad for the uth dune, it was ravaged

[hollow comet]

holy moly

[dark juniper]

Huh. Apparently the best lance basic combo in sunbreak endgame is... leaping thrust spam. Is it weird to be disappointed with that? Despite it being simple we weirdly like the three poke combo so this is a bit of a bummer

[hollow comet]

aww 😔

no, i don't think it's weird to be disappointed by that

i like helicopter insect glaive but I think tetraseal slash combo beats it out in rise

[desert light]

9* tempered Steve is rough, 9* gore just obliterated me.

Have killed 9* Steve, Mizu, Arkveld so far

Possibly some others

[hollow comet]

i spent a bit too long celebrating and missed 2 head carves 😭

i didn't know it had 3x3 carves (head, upper torso, lower torso?)

very interesting, I don't think I've seen any other monster have multiple carving segments (severed parts aside)

[dark juniper]

How strange, we guess it kind of makes sense because of it being basically the final boss (we think)?

[dark juniper]

Gods gunlance is fun in rise

Blast dash and wire cutter our beloved 😌

Wyvern fire being spammable is great

[dark juniper]

Made of what

[balmy swan]

made of souls

possibly

the duck turtle may devour souls

[dark juniper]

Possibly

Also there has to be a setting on the steam deck to make screenshots not look terrible

[void narwhal]

Kappas are silly little fellas

[dark juniper]

Why must Khezu roar like three times in a row

[hollow comet]

😌

I've gotta give it a shot in rise

[hollow comet]

yeah......... 😔

[zealous laurel]

Bro's head is 100% mouth, what else he gonna do?

[dark juniper]

Side note: is there any use for the cohoot other than being a discount Poogie and a discount discount Moofah?

[mystic cape]

The cohoot is how you see Monsters on the map

Also the cohoot nests give you items when you check them

[dark juniper]

Well it's better than paintballs at least

[hollow comet]

moofah 😌

[dark juniper]

Give us back the moofah capcom! 😭

[desert light]

Muahahaha

double 4 dif 9* quest for Steve and Rey

Soloution: Lure pods.

And let them punc hteh shit out of each other

[desert light]

Took hafl an hour ,got em down with two faints

One i just got dleted out of the blue

[hollow comet]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/reel/DKR5cDIzbZo

shiman_chu_n_gorilla (@shiman_chu_n_gorilla)

モンハンあるある　ラージャンにふっ飛ばされる

▶ Play video

InstaFix

[hollow comet]

shell yeah

[dark juniper]

Hmm... trying out normal gunlance and ground splitter and we're not sure if we really like groundsplitter, not being able to wirefall without losing the buff is a massive pain

Rose (It/Its) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) Blast dash and wire cutter our beloved 😌

Hail cutter makes up for the decreased shell damage by letting you use wyvern fire really often, and wyvern fire seems to be actually practical in this game

[dark juniper]

Question: why are there unblockable attacks in low rank in this game

[dark juniper]

Wow monsters do not have much health in village quests do they

[dark juniper]

We need to get a weapon for cutting tails at some point, gunlance isn’t really the best at that

[teal halo]

Longsword

[dark juniper]

📝

Any particular reason why?

[brisk dirge]

can cut tails
the very wide sweeps on LS can make it easier to catch tails sometimes

[balmy swan]

Good vertical reach for tails that are high off the ground, too, I think

[dark juniper]

We see, we see

Any specific skills that combo well with long sword? Like, does quick sheath do anything with it in rise?

[hollow comet]

QS is AMAZING in rise

for the special sheathe

hmm, maybe burst and maximum might can be good, otherwise i can really only think of generic dps skills

[hollow comet]

helm breaker can do good burst damage on fast moving or vertical tails too

[brisk dirge]

yes, Quick Sheathe has a big impact in Rise

you'll definitely want to fit it in when you can

[dark juniper]

Got it!

(Oh god we're gonna have to learn how to do iai spirit slash aren't we)

[hollow comet]

y'all could, or could play sakura slash and sacred sheathe (sunbreak) to build and dump levels respectively

[brisk dirge]

It's not that hard mostly

[dark juniper]

I wonder why they took mounting out of rise, we really don't like wyvern riding

[tardy grotto]

Iunno

[verbal copper]

Okay so I'm being a bit dumb but what's the new stuff that is added with this update?

I heard something about gambling?

[balmy swan]

9* hunts with randomized talismans

hunt a 9* monster, get a talisman with a random grab-bag of skills

[halcyon fractal]

Addendum: Uth Duna is water/fighting

[verbal copper]

Water dragon could work too

[void narwhal]

Strange that we've gotten a second Ice/Steel monst :|a I hadn't really thought about that

[halcyon fractal]

🤔 is ukanlos the first?

[void narwhal]

isn't Kush technically ice

[halcyon fractal]

Not exactly, it's more windy

So like. Steel/flying

[void narwhal]

oh it's terrain dependant, neat :|a

[halcyon fractal]

Skarmory imposter

[void narwhal]

i didn't know about that whole mechanic because i loathe fighting him

and only ever seemed to park on the Snow Mountain

[halcyon fractal]

Oh same here

[halcyon fractal]

Personally I don't really ascribe dragon to most non-elder monsters

With a few exceptions

Like deviljho being dark/dragon

Like hydreigon

[verbal copper]

This is a nice random drop for the first one

[void narwhal]

I could see Fight Dosha

[halcyon fractal]

Hmm

🤔

[void narwhal]

Maybe just the Alpha

[halcyon fractal]

Also it's weird wilds didn't have a nomadic monster, sans Arkveld

No bagels or pickles in sight

Unless Steve counts

[halcyon fractal]

Oh btw I just found this chart on a different server

[verbal copper]

Rompolo could be poison/ground too

because of the oil slick and poison eruptions they do

[halcyon fractal]

True....

[verbal copper]

it's one of those things where I don't want to dual all of them

but also

poison/ground :3

[near bane]

Here you can find how the talisman randomization works

[near bane]

How about small monsters

[hollow comet]

bullfango would be dark

underhanded little guys 😔

or maybe fighting since i guess it's within their rights to just run into me

just at the worst times

[verbal copper]

Wish you could name these. Cause these are the pruning shears

[verbal copper]

Also lets throw up some fits. Show us what you're working with. Lets see some Monster Hunter fashion

I like seeing what people can make

[hollow comet]

!!!!!!!!

[frank epoch]

Yoooo that's a good one!

I think my best tenderizer charm was +5 OOO

[hollow comet]

yeahhh! I'm not sure where exactly to slot it in, but I'm sure i can find a space for it somewhere

i have too much Tenderizer on my silverlos pieces atm

[dark juniper]

We forgot that they turned volvidon into a pinball in rise

[dark juniper]

Anyway, magnamalo is dead, and that definitely means that the problem of the rampage is solved forever and there isn't some greater evil behind everything going to hell in a handbasket! 🙂

[mystic cape]

"Evil" is a strong word

[dark juniper]

Maybe we should’ve been wearing different armor for this

Or maybe Fugen should’ve given me a gunlance

Yeah we know

athroughzdude (he/him) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1164963928531533855 message) "Evil" is a strong word

...the heck is "hellfire cloak?"

[mystic cape]

You occasionally become afflicted with Hellfire Blight

It also gives you more time to rid yourself of it at higher levels

[dark juniper]

We... see

[mystic cape]

Basically you get a free topple a couple of time per fight (assuming you place the flame properly after ditching it with the Wire Dash)

[dark juniper]

Why would you want to afflict yourself with it?

Oh

[mystic cape]

It's niche, but can be useful

[dark juniper]

Okay we killed magnamalo a second time and now we can use the melding pot, neat
We're gonna assume we want to focus on getting wirebug whisperer talismans at this point in the game, none of the other options seem good atm

...apparently this is still low rank. Huh.

[mystic cape]

You can do special quests in the Village to skip the LR hub quests

[hollow comet]

that's 2/3 of the fatalis trio down!!

41s left had me sweating

[eager anchor]

OH

ok

FFXIV crossover:

OMEGA

what a fun one

[snow helm]

Yeah, the FF crossover was predictable but the monster is genuinely cool enough that it makes up for it I think

[mystic cape]

https://youtu.be/mqpoU4MnN08