MAGNAGOTHICA MALEGHAST

[hollow aspen]

👀 looks sweet

[proper plover]

Hello! Brand new to the game and a curious Igorri player. His may sound stupid, but I was wondering about the word explodes, and whether it has any rules bearing. See the Stitch's unnatural mutation.

Do I lose the model?

[pale echo]

nope, you don't self-destruct

[patent steeple]

explode is just flavor

[proper plover]

Sick, I lost a stitch for nothing then 🙂

[patent steeple]

you just deal 1 damage to every unit within 1 square of you

[proper plover]

Also, that would crack one of the Chirurgeon's abilities, where you cause a unit to explode next turn

So, now that that is out of the way, I have a fun little Carcass story to tell.

My buddy and I were playing a 2v2 against a Goregrinder and a Gargomax. He did not spend a single soul until the enemy decided it was time to engage in close quarters. 1 Devil Bullet (Guaranteed Headshot) + STG later and that's the Gargomax out of the game.

Very fun, he got run over by the Goregrinder player next turn.

Managed to clutch up and make it a draw with enough Vitality tokens to bring a steak back to life.

1 HP on my Chirugeon to 0 on the Warlord.

I'll post list

Malice: 0 | Unit Limit: 4

[Necromancer]
Bonus Trait: Extra Arm

[ACT Upgrades]
Clone

[Soul Upgrades]
Recycle

[Units]
2x Lycan []
2x Stitch []
1x Chopdoc []```

[proven flame]

another heresy unit
Gunwight of the Abhorrer flavor

[grave warren]

consider: what if the gun shot crosses? (or starmetal shurikens, I guess)

[proven flame]

silver bullets ✨

[pseudo flicker]

Once again, going to ask if you are okay with them being added, while I am thinking on how to credit you

I think ill add a notepad with a link to your tumblr, and add the tumblr into token description on top
I sadly dont think it will bring much, people seem to be very lazy in regards of checking out all the names and links i provide in credits Т.Т

Just in case, every item I use from other creators, say, here, is credited and theres a link to pilot net already, and despite that some people miss who made an entire homebrew house despite it being written on items in the bag multiple times xd

[glacial junco]

Gunwight for god is sick af frfr

[proven flame]

i appreciate any attempt tbh aack. seen too many people just take art with no credit so it means a lot for you to ask aa
i go by a few aliases online so anything concrete like a link helps.

[umbral cipher]

You probably could link a big old Credits thing in the mod description or something?

It's rough

[pseudo flicker]

Nobody checks there in my experience

i will just be aggressive xd

[umbral cipher]

valid tbh

[pseudo flicker]

on that note, does anyone else credited wants their links added in this way?
@umbral cipher
@small locust
@torn hare
@analog notch
@sly vine

[umbral cipher]

Got no links to add

[sly vine]

nope, I'm good, thanks for the offer!

[primal nest]

Could I get a link as well?

[pseudo flicker]

yep, sorry! forgot to tag you, i was going over the operator and homebrew stuff and forgot to check tokens!

Which link would you like?

[primal nest]

I got myself a linktree hold on

[pine crescent]

"some of those that work forces
are the same that shoot crosses"

[analog notch]

Nah thanks

[pseudo flicker]

Okie, sorry

[pseudo flicker]

tts mod updated. nothing big, just some homebrew updates, alt units by swampyy and links to creators whose assets were used

[thick meteor]

Is there a foundry set up guide anywhere?

[primal nest]

Should be in pins

[tired salmon]

just played my first game of maleghast!

i was carcass vs a friend as goregrinders and it was a draw because our necromancers died at the same time

[tired salmon]

not to be a hall-monitor but I think this an other 4chan-isms are off limits

[onyx ermine]

4chan?

I thought kek just meant like cheeky laugh?

Does it not mean that?

[prime portal]

It does but there's a lot of baggage attached due to 4chan using it for... less than savory purposes

[onyx ermine]

Oh if that’s the case I don’t mind deleting it and such

[hearty spade]

Hello people! I have a question that might be answered here. Today i played a game of "Mangagothica: Maleghast" the skirmish wargame released recently by Tom Bloom (same designer as the Lancer RPG, and the initiative order specifically states as follows:
At the beginning of the match, each side rolls a die to determine initiative, re-rolling ties. The winning side can choose who acts first. Whoever acts first also deploys all their units first, followed by the next side. If there are multiple sides (such as a 2v2 or a 4 player free for all), play and deployment proceeds clockwise. Players playing in VTT, may proceeds left to right (or top to bottom if you're in a voice call).
A player can typically chooses a side of the map to deploy from, then can deploy units up to 2 spaces from that side, depending on the scenario type. Then the battle begins. [...]
Combat is between two to four sides, depending on scenario. Most of the time, Maleghast is played as two sides (1V1 Or 2V2).
The side that won initiative acts first. They pick a unit to activate (including their necromancer), then take a turn with that unit. After they take their turn, they pass their turn to the other side, who picks a unit of their own and acts, and so on. Units can only activate and take a unit turn once per round, so no picking the same unit more than once.

Now the problem presented itself once one of my enemies units died. Now that i removed one of her units off the board, I had effectively more units then them. Would you rule this as:
A: once one of the players has spent all their units, a new round starts, even if the party with more units hasn't spent all their units' turns yet
B: the party that has more units gets to take a turn for each of their unspent units (even if that means they take multiple turns after each other) before the next round hits.

I ruled it as the later and ended in a tie at the end of round 6 in the end, but my opponent insisted that i went easy on her and that if i had ruled the first ruling, she would have been dead meat.

[real bane]

If one side has more units than the other, that side gets to use their surplus units in a row at the end, yes.

[undone hatch]

So I ran a quick trial session around christmas playing as goregrinders and wasn't exactly sure about the wording of some of the rules

For example blood rage says units reduced to 0HP remain on the board without dying and any further damage slays them

But how does that interact with:
A) Non-lethal damage (e.g. the ignite SOUL from goregrinders?
B) High damage attacks, e.g. the unit is on 1HP but takes 2?

Either I skimmed over the clarification or the rulebook doesn't cover that

[primal nest]

A) they wouldn’t take damage, since ignite cannot slay
B) high damage attacks don’t go through bloodrage. It leaves them at zero as normal

[umbral cipher]

The idea is that if they would be reduced below 0, they simply Don't

[primal nest]

Ye

[umbral cipher]

and then the next instance of damage kills them

but that has to be a separate instance

[undone hatch]

I see, so HP is even more of an illusion than I thought 😄

[primal nest]

Blood rage funni

[pine crescent]

https://github.com/delzhand/isocon/releases/tag/v0.6.0.1

Version v0.6 is officially out!

[rugged solstice]

Before I buy this, does the Unit Assets.zip file have any files for 3D printing out units to use on a physical table? If not, what is in the Unit Assets.zip file?

[lyric fog]

Images, which can be moved into VTT

[primal nest]

behold

the first maleghast shitpost

(between my rotten and my friend's necro)

[umbral cipher]

good post

[silk storm]

my beloved

[onyx ermine]

lemme join ya and make some memes

one sec

and one more

i lied, i found this

[arctic raven]

The second one isn't a TTRPG

[onyx ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

its the only meme i found

[ruby spire]

(i am the friend!)

[ocean bloom]

Goblin with a fat ass tho

[dense stratus]

Question, might be stupid one, does Stitch attack mutate the target or itself?

[primal nest]

Self

[dense stratus]

Okay, that makes way more sense

[pseudo flicker]

i think this one was earlier

[valid wedge]

Everyone hating on the exorcist. What did they do?

Oh right the crusades

[silver path]

hi so, i downloaded isocon and i wanted to make a maleghast solo to check it out and..i cant click on the confirm button to open the lobby?

i can click cancel tho

[pine crescent]

Does it work if you choose generic or icon 1.5?

[silver path]

nope, generic, icon 1.5, maleghast and lancer all stop me from hitting confirm

[pine crescent]

Hmm, okay. There might be something I didn't catch that only happens in virgin environments. I'll look into it.

[silver path]

uhhhh i assume when you say virgin enviroment i assume you mean fresh

and id like to clarify this isnt the first time i used iscon

[pine crescent]

Yeah, with no config from prior versions

Oh, I bet I know what it is then

[silver path]

thats good to hear :b i checked out a older edition of it a while ago, got a lobby going, left then when i wanted back in this problem happend..i figured your new updated version would of fixed it

[pine crescent]

Shoot me a pm? That way we don't clutter up the thread 😃

[real bane]

<@&1169764878454620231> Loathing murder duel in an hour?

[thorn sky]

if i knew where i could play, i would

[real bane]

I'd host a game on roll20

[thorn sky]

oh. i don't have anything for that.

[umbral cipher]

Roll20 is free

[thorn sky]

i know

[frozen quartz]

I'd be up for a match. Only my 4th game tho

[real bane]

Sure! I'll DM you

[thorn sky]

it doesn't show up in roll20's search thing

[real bane]

I'd give you an invite link

[thorn sky]

oh ok

[real bane]

But, are you in? Make it a three player free-for-all?

[frozen quartz]

I'd be fine with that

[thorn sky]

um, i'd prefer my first match be a 1v1

[frozen quartz]

Or I could sit this one out

Exactly

[thorn sky]

i don't even have anything made

[frozen quartz]

I've already played a game today, after all

[thorn sky]

no armies, no necromancers, i don't even know where to go for that

[frozen quartz]

Did you get the pdf from itch or from Tom's Patreon?

[thorn sky]

yes

i did

i know all the stuff

[frozen quartz]

Oh, do you mean the tokens in roll20? Those should already be on the map

[real bane]

Yeah, I'll set you up with tokens

[thorn sky]

ok

[umbral cipher]

You can just pick a house and pick your roster; at Loathing there's no upgrades
one of every unit works just fine too, at that

[frozen quartz]

Well, good game to you then! I kinda want to know who will win

Isn't Loathing the one where you get 4 upgrade points?

[real bane]

Yeah, although if it's your first game, I'd suggest making it a Spite one instead

[thorn sky]

ok

i think i have my mass set up

CARCASS 2 gunwights 1 enforcer 1 ammo goblin 1 barrelform

[umbral cipher]

oh, got my brain jumbled

[pseudo flicker]

Gunwights are thralls, so every time you take them, you get two
You take 5 units in a duel irc not 4, right?

[thorn sky]

exactly

4 gunwights

[real bane]

Correct, so I assume you spend two points on gunwights, for a total of four

yeah ok

I'm running 2x Slime, 2x Leech, 1x (2x) Scum; Corruptor, Melt, Insides Out

[pseudo flicker]

Okie! Just wanted to clarify since its your first game :3

[umbral cipher]

4 gunwights sweep

[thorn sky]

me and my undead firing squad versus a sewer rat and its friends.

[umbral cipher]

ohhh, two slimes and two leeches is fascinating

[thorn sky]

i'm going to die

[real bane]

You'll be fine

Plus, ime, Maleghast's fun regardless

[short estuary]

Rottenless garg

Heresy

Leech and slime are bros

[umbral cipher]

I love Rotten too much to run garg without it

[thorn sky]

for my operator, i think i'm going for the bone wall trait

[glacial junco]

Good trait.

[real bane]

Rottens rule, but I wanted to try something else

[short estuary]

Whenever I run garg with fewer than 2 rotten it doesn't go well

Inb4 skill issue

[glacial junco]

Thats because you only fight me lol

[short estuary]

This is true

[primal nest]

thats the silly combo

[glacial junco]

I know how to fight 2 rotten, Don't

[short estuary]

I'll bring 3 rotten next time

[glacial junco]

tbh that didn't help me against Lycans though

[real bane]

Join the Roll20 game through the link I sent you at some point before the game so I can assign you your tokens

[primal nest]

Also i only run one rotten cuz im real 😎

[thorn sky]

i saw your pfp on tumblr!

[glacial junco]

Yeah! I commissioned it from @proven flame i hope you checked out the rest of their work they do great stuff!

[thorn sky]

i did!

[glacial junco]

I also commissioned the other Igorri girl. Why can't i use 2 pfps at once curse you!

[thorn sky]

her?

[umbral cipher]

she

[glacial junco]

HER~

MY favorite

I love all my OCs equally i swear

[thorn sky]

Guess who just won by the skin of her teeth?

[feral hearth]

Ayo. loop hero map?

[real bane]

big shoutouts to 3 strength from evolve strain making Virulence do five damage

[real bane]

Coming soon! ...After some adjustments

[thorn sky]

Thank fuck for hot clip

[real bane]

It absolutely pulled its weight

[glacial junco]

Ay yo good job!

[real bane]

Hungry Woods

There is a concerning lack of animals in this neck of the undying woods, and the trees creak and and bend in unnatural ways.

Forests are adverse, thick forests are walls. Orange trees are hazards, their branches and roots snapping out at trespassers.

[thorn sky]

the plants want you just as dead as the other necromancer wants you

[umbral cipher]

Good for them honestly

[feral hearth]

my headcanon is that theres an incredibly thick layer of peat in these woods

since its undying, it just keeps growing, but not fully decaying

[thorn sky]

horrible, i love it

[real bane]

baller

[thorn sky]

but the real question is where in Anzenmezzeron is the forest?

[umbral cipher]

Where the forests are

[feral hearth]

thats what its called

"Where the Forests Are"

[real bane]

When asked where the maps I make take place I typically respond by waving my hand and going "up north somewhere"

[thorn sky]

that sounds 'bout right

[latent sun]

simply just canon to Loop Hero

it is canon in Loop Hero that those trees will eat you

[real bane]

I have not a single original idea in my head

[feral hearth]

ok, but you slapped it into Maleghast, which is original

[real bane]

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-again-foil-again-cat-kitten-gif-24575588

[latent sun]

foiled again!!!!
all-time favorite gif tbh

but yeah the trees eat you and then make
....fruit. (Golem)

Loop Hero lore is cool af tbh

[real bane]

Strictly speaking they eat corpses, they don't themselves hunt

so a more lore accurate effect would be like, "Units slain in this space is obliterated"

But for simplicity's sake: nah

[latent sun]

Well.
They eat corpses and sufficiently wounded beasts.

[glacial junco]

Losing the soul would feel super bad though too

so glad its just a harard

[thorn sky]

my personal headcanon for the reason for this fight is that the plaguelord got in the operator's way

nothing else

[vapid shell]

huh? (dk if this was already mentioned or not)

[thorn sky]

what is this

[short estuary]

Is that supposed to be referencing plague

[vapid shell]

yeah

[vapid shell]

the TTS version someone made, this is an alt plague token but it got mislabeled as miracle

[thorn sky]

cool!

https://youtu.be/MjKe-g33mzE goregrinders theme song

[primal nest]

Gargamo…

[terse bay]

Anyone here want to play? I've got a room set up on tabletop simulator

[thorn sky]

fuck it. why not

wait

tts?

no

[terse bay]

I'm fine with hoping into call if that's what you mean

[thorn sky]

disregard my last statement

overreaction

[terse bay]

Alright. So we playing?

[thorn sky]

yes

[terse bay]

Hell yeah

[thorn sky]

umm...

[terse bay]

You got table top downloaded?

[thorn sky]

yes

[terse bay]

Also I may have spelled the name wrong. Magnegothica Maleghast. Oops

I'm using the workshop mod made by Eule

If you need an invite I can give you my steam code

[thorn sky]

no, i'm in

should we get in a call, or?

[terse bay]

Sure

[pseudo flicker]

i forgot to change the name, its just annoying to fix

[dull wagon]

Two questions

[thorn sky]

fire away

[dull wagon]

What is the standard size of a black mass

Necromancer + 5 units?

[thorn sky]

not counting thralls, necro+5, 4 if theres 3/4 necros usually

[dull wagon]

Ah I see

Second: Igorri mutate tokens can count as positive and negative. Does that mean I can count them as strength or speed or is it simply protection from negative tokens?

Like I don’t really understand what the benefit of Stitch’s twisting strike mutating it provides

[gentle leaf]

mutate's benefit is "you can spend this whenever you'd normally lose another kind of positive token"
so if you have 6 mutate and 1 strength, you can activate strength multiple times

[dull wagon]

Oh

oh

Now it all comes together

[gentle leaf]

:>!
with that said, then, the benefit of Twisting Strike is that you can use Unstable Mutation first to get a handful of Positive Tokens

then keep using Twisting Strike to build up Mutate tokens, allowing you to stretch those strength/speed/vit tokens further

[proven flame]

doesnt have to be positive
if you really wanna hold onto a negative token for some reason you can choose to.
this really only comes into play for niche cases like berzerk tokens or like, if you wanna hold onto vulnerable because you want a unit to die or something

or, maybe you want to hold onto your Doom token so you can Sample Genome it onto the enemy necromancer >:3c

[thorn sky]

learned the power of Igorri way too late as the homunculus became a near unkillable fleshgod

[proven flame]

^w^
we're the other faction that gets vitality and we do it Better.

poor abhorrers...

[thorn sky]

tell that to the inquisitor with 10 health

[proven flame]

uses one of my two units that clears tokens from enemies

[thorn sky]

ah.

[proven flame]

igorii can be something fierce as long as your opponent lacks physical armor

igorri has no magical damage except a few optional items on the necro

[glacial junco]

I was thinking about it and I think thats one of my big reasons I leaned harder into Goregrinders between the two recently, The ability to keep the same general list is viable since I don't need to stress as much about which damage I do. So many units get some way to do either Physical or Fire damage and that feels so key to the plan.

[thorn sky]

not to mention that they don't die correctly

[proven flame]

the beat-stick bonanza...

i really love the nature of igorri
being a weak faction that you have to buff up considerably, making anple use of the resources available to you
its unreliable but its a puzzle every game =w=

i also love using the opponents tokens against them its very fun

[thorn sky]

my question is where do all the corpses come from

[proven flame]

we cant stop performing fullbody mitosis please please please help aaaaa

[glacial junco]

Necrocancer

[proven flame]

||considering their lore, probably.||

[thorn sky]

you think that's a problem? MY GUNS KEEP GROWING MORE BONES

i don't need more EGISs, or as I call them, Bone Gears

[glacial junco]

The lore about igorri is so interesting, Like they are arguably the nicest people?

[proven flame]

mafia family runs a hospital

no frankenstein shenanigans nope nop not at all noopw

[thorn sky]

it's like the medic from tf2

[glacial junco]

Excited for B I R D U P

[proven flame]

im excited for a big bird being able to deepstrike and kill everyone i love

[glacial junco]

I'm ready to not be able to deal with all the thralls

[thorn sky]

THRALL SWEEP

[proven flame]

i cant wait for 4 thralls to deepstrike and also kill everyone i love

[thorn sky]

4? no. 10.

[proven flame]

5 at a time, at least

[feral hearth]

someone mention Thralls?

[proven flame]

1 big bird, 4 (eight) thrall picks

[glacial junco]

I hope that at least half the roster is cultists

[feral hearth]

the only valid build

[proven flame]

CAH CAW

[glacial junco]

Like I wanna see crazy bird loving people

[feral hearth]

wait, what type of unit is the birds missing?

[thorn sky]

are you the guy who rushed dusk with 10 gunwights?

[glacial junco]

we dont know yet

[feral hearth]

im the guy who rushed Abhorrers with 8 Warheads

[glacial junco]

IMO maybe freak

[feral hearth]

granted it was 4 warheads and 2 painwheels. but its was basically Painwheel and then Painwheel Lite

[glacial junco]

Freaks have supporty synergy mainly and i feel like giving a "Pack Tactics" faction MORE synergy would be horrifying to deal with

[thorn sky]

More synergy than pokken tournament dx

[proven flame]

theyll be missing a necromancer

:)

[feral hearth]

skeleton motorbike build

[thorn sky]

me in my stupid darksouls reference bonebike

[glacial junco]

No necromancer faction would hurt my OC loving heart

[feral hearth]

more like this

[proven flame]

soul ability that lets your goregrinder necro ride two painwheels

[thorn sky]

fuck yeah

[glacial junco]

What you want me to do show love for a expendable unit

[thorn sky]

yes

[glacial junco]

They say putting hair on their hormagaunts

[feral hearth]

The Flock! The Flock! The Flock!

[thorn sky]

THE SWARM PROVIDES
THE FLOCK PROTECTS

[proven flame]

the necromancer is a token that keeps being passed from unit to unit until you have nothing left

[feral hearth]

evil

one way to stall a game

[thorn sky]

necromancer goes to thrall "well i'm fucked"

[feral hearth]

that scene of the battle droid saying "their the commander" and then getting promoted when the commander dies

[proven flame]

maybe moving units is an action instead, or a soul ability

[glacial junco]

The necromancer is 7 corvids in a robe

Tool using.

[proven flame]

or a wandering spirit

[thorn sky]

i've heard some necromancers can disappear into swarms of animals but that's just a bit wierd

[proven flame]

necromancer is a terrain piece the units have to defend
just sits there.
a totem.

[glacial junco]

Swampy stop you are just writing horror senerios lmao

[proven flame]

djdjdhskdjaj

[glacial junco]

Imagine me making a wall on your necromancer

Become stone 🫵

[feral hearth]

Fetid Idol POV:

[proven flame]

cant use create effects in an occupied space BOZO

[thorn sky]

FUCK YOU CURSE OF MEDUSA

[proven flame]

me in my sarcophagus

can use an action to move one (1) space

[glacial junco]

OH

WAIT

lmao

Inside out your necro

[proven flame]

its terrain not a unit

[glacial junco]

how would I attack it then

[proven flame]

like a wall

[thorn sky]

you wouldn't deepthroaght a scormofaguss

[glacial junco]

This is too scary for me

[proven flame]

terrain can be attacked its just not gonna be affected by hazards

[proven flame]

try me.

[thorn sky]

ahem

[glacial junco]

w-what does this mean

[thorn sky]

sarcophagussy

[proven flame]

i put the pussy in the scarmpphagois

[glacial junco]

lol

[thorn sky]

hisses like a serpent

[proven flame]

genuinely getting ideas for oops! no necromancer! homebrew...

[feral hearth]

Hmm

Soul Cage and a lich

[proven flame]

yes yes yes

yes yes yes

yes yes yes

my phylacteries...

[glacial junco]

Roll 2d8 and place it in a random space

(Bad idea dont

[proven flame]

nah cuz then the first space is never chosen

yeah probably just normal setup anywhere but the corners
corners are too easy

[feral hearth]

soul ability to teleport the soul cage

[proven flame]

14 hp df of nothing

how does a rock dodge

[feral hearth]

it doesnt need to dodge, it just needs to be hard enough that you cant hurt it

[proven flame]

exactly

10 hp super armor instead maybe?

<the nefarious

[thorn sky]

anglerfish

[glacial junco]

[proven flame]

glub glub ~~;;;;•w• <sallymander

[proven flame]

it doesnt move and doesnt attack dw

its a fun lil game of defending while also going for the enemy necro

[thorn sky]

break the rock and down goes the flock(heresy mode is on)

[proven flame]

maybe it has an inverse attack
only can target enemies more than 5 spaces away

you cant corner camp your own necro

ROCK VS ROCK

ROCK FIGHTS !!!!

[thorn sky]

two rocks and their corpsepuppets fight for literally no reason

[glacial junco]

I think a mining homebrew wouldn't be amiss. I'm sure some ambitious faction would be like, Exploring for some magic fossils or something

[proven flame]

for fun!

UNDEAD DINOSAURS !!!

[glacial junco]

And they use dinosaurs

YES

[thorn sky]

ROCK AND STONE AND FLESH AND BONE

[glacial junco]

Give my braincell back I was using that

[proven flame]

ROCK AND STONE AND FLESH AND BONE

[proven flame]

eats it

sorry

[glacial junco]

[thorn sky]

the thrall is a skeleton velociraptor

the real one, not the jurrasic park one

[glacial junco]

If I were good at numbers I think i would be so into making a HB faction but it feels like a lot of work for me. I'm too obsessed with making sure I don't make the opponent feel like they are fighting something too overtuned.

[proven flame]

it is so tiny..

[glacial junco]

Mfw Utahraptor isnt a cool enough name

[thorn sky]

exactly

[proven flame]

<the number autism

[thorn sky]

1 health but super fast

[proven flame]

my tism ass could never be allowed unsupervised around a game's core rules

[thorn sky]

maybe they have reskinned miracle because...well...glances at elden ring skeletons

[glacial junco]

Heh Reskinned.

Cuz they need to grow it back

[thorn sky]

tyrant Spinosaurus

[proven flame]

Ancient
the first time this unit dies, bring it back at full health and 6 vulnerable

[thorn sky]

GREAT!

[glacial junco]

(4mov 4hp 4 df) forgot that colossal dreadmaw is a 6 6/6

[thorn sky]

just thought of a WIP name for the necromancer

Paleonecrologist

[proven flame]

a scientist is just REALLY curious about how dinosaurs were like in real life, so they came to the City to try it out

now theres a dino infestation 😔

[thorn sky]

what should the faction be called?

[prime portal]

I had the idea of like

[glacial junco]

Ah names

The hardest thing do to

[prime portal]

The first necromancers were dinosaues

[glacial junco]

I still don't have a name for my necromancers

[prime portal]

So you have ancient proto-nectomancef dinosaurs in the depths of the city

[proven flame]

one of the units could be a horribly mangled recreation because the paleontologist fucked up putting the skeleton together, like that old "Unicorn" skeleton
other could he just chunks of dinosaur. like, "we only found half of this one" "only the claws of this one"

[thorn sky]

definitely the freak

[proven flame]

The British Museum

[glacial junco]

Heh Soul ability: Roll The Bones

*step 2 (+5) and gain 1 speed

[thorn sky]

i'm thinking "Chimera"

like, pterodactyl wings, triceratops head, iguanadon thumb as horn, stegosaurus tail, stuff like that

[glacial junco]

This is my only chance to use this image

(I can't read the text in darkmode so deleting it)

[thorn sky]

the tyrant should be called "terrorsail" in my opinion. well, something along those lines.

[proven flame]

ooo

time to make dinosaur house

[thorn sky]

open the door

get on the floor

everybody walk the dinosaur

[proven flame]

crptobilogist

thats a good necro name aack

rolls off da tongue

[thorn sky]

cryptozoology is the study of cryptids

[proven flame]

but
crypt
get it :Y

[thorn sky]

oh

[glacial junco]

"Bone Daddy"

[thorn sky]

that's a general term for necromancers

[proven flame]

mmm i might not be the best to design dinozombies
i am not a big dinosaur fan like you nerds tbh bzbzbdk

[thorn sky]

ok

i have ideas

the skeletons have glowing sea green filling in missing bones, giving the chimera actual wings, filling in the terrorsail's, well, sail, stuff like that

also

this kind of necromancy is formed by a pact with a devil that's been buried beneath the earth for millions of years and only their fossilized bones remain of their body

missing undead: scion

Thrall: Necroraptor mv 3 hp 2 df 3+ arm none

traits: ancient, thrall

Freak: Chimera mv 3 hp 3 df 4+ arm mag
traits: ancient, flight

[glacial junco]

We should move this to the Homebrew channel

[thorn sky]

oh ok sorry

[glacial junco]

Nw lmao

[fickle bough]

YES

[thorn sky]

you can see my attempt at it in the homebrew sector for maleghast

[primal nest]

Wah

[glacial junco]

My goregrinder OC
https://vxtwitter.com/HoesBeWILIN___/status/1740442742843658587?

[latent sun]

Hmmm.
Two Barrelforms
One Ammo Goblin w/ Hot Chamber
Two Enforcers (can replace one with an EGIS Weapon)

Barrelforms could probably work fine with Extended Barrel due to Shieldwall, but don't quote us on that.

Mostly just amused by the thought of two barrelforms firing every turn.

[thorn sky]

and with the little ammo goober, no need to reload

[onyx ermine]

everytime i see barrelforms enter sentry mode they remind me of this guy

[willow gust]

how are you even supposed to aim that?

[onyx ermine]

trigun is full of bullshit

[clever mountain]

Still trying to make deadsouls work

hahha

[onyx ermine]

deadsouls?

[craggy iron]

deadsouls

[arctic raven]

He's aiming at targets like 2+ miles away, he's only gotta wiggle it a little

[primal flame]

me when my souls are dead

[muted hare]

YES I FINALLY FOUND THE THREAD

[onyx ermine]

welcome traveler

[thorn sky]

WELL RATTLE ME BONES, WE'VE GOT SOMEONE NEW

[muted hare]

I've unironically spend the last half hour digging through the server looking for this place. But I'm also recovering from Christmas covid so I'm not fully coherent yet lmao

[thorn sky]

You've been hit by
You've been struck by
The gargamoxx specil

[muted hare]

lmao I sure was
Had covid and an ear infection at the same time

was a blast let me tell you

But yeah, I love the heck out of this game and setting even though I've not had a chance to play

[onyx ermine]

ye and if ya wanna make a homebrew house, go find it amongst it again

[thorn sky]

For example, the Mezogogues, a homebrew faction of dinosaur skeletons made by yours truly (and some others but i did most of the work and i still haven't finished it all yet)

[muted hare]

Ah but I am one step ahead! There was a link in the pins and I'm already following both threads so I don't fucking lose them

https://tenor.com/view/smile-anime-cute-gif-15792815

[muted hare]

OH THAT SOUNDS HELLA COOL

The only homebrew house I've seen so far online is The Archive

[thorn sky]

tumblr?

[muted hare]

I'll have to comb the thread

[thorn sky]

it's pretty far up but you can use the search feature to help you

[muted hare]

Reddit actually. Not a regualr user, but I was digging around for anything I could find

[muted hare]

After I get some sleep I'll go digging for it~
Unearth some old dino bones<3

[onyx ermine]

theres 5 on TTS

mine will be the sixth >:3

[muted hare]

well Huzzah!

more house = more fun!

[thorn sky]

here's hoping the Mezogogues will join the roster

and no we don't have a t rex but we do have a compensation spinosaurus

[muted hare]

Honestly I was thinking about building an TTRPG shell around the game. Something similar to mordheim's progression system while keeping the core gameplay in tact. Then build out a bestiary of enemies and dangers of the dark city, a district generation system, and other stuff like that. Just play more with the setting and stuff.

Keep things simple and light, but give put some rpg meat on those tactical bones as it were~

[thorn sky]

just got a homebrew idea

PIRATE NECROMANCERS

[muted hare]

but for now, my wife is home from work and I am sleepy, so I must be off

BUT THIS IS NOT THE LAST YOU WILL HEAR FROM ME

https://tenor.com/view/witch-queen-laugh-evil-laugh-witch-hive-gif-11134479926288657310

[thorn sky]

I'm here all day and night, if you need me. trust me, my username is no lie

[muted hare]

then I will see you soon~
I too am a creature of the night

[onyx ermine]

already beating you to it >:3

House Zeitlos: Diesalpunk Soldier Pirates

they get their own airship

[onyx ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/steampunk-flying-airship-gif-5969410

[ruby spire]

Spinosaurus better anyways 😌

[thorn sky]

agreed

[tired salmon]

I'm imagining him having to roll to either side while dragging the gun in an arc to turn it

[valid wedge]

Check out this map my friends made via draft. Each placed 4 tiles one by one with rotational symmetry until they placed 4 times each.

[glacial junco]

Hell.

Deadsouls 😄
Any other faction

[valid wedge]

It's Igorri vs Gore

[feral hearth]

lmao

Goregrinders, im so sorry for your loss

[glacial junco]

My heart goes out to my gg bros

[feral hearth]

wait

wait

[thorn sky]

As a goregrinders fan,

[glacial junco]

You have to sacrifice the zerker to get in there lmao

[glacial junco]

This is still so bad for them lmao

[feral hearth]

oh def

its hell

[thorn sky]

it makes a chokepoint

[valid wedge]

Both sides opted to use 2 sets of thralls.

[glacial junco]

Yeah and the grinder will choke on it

[thorn sky]

never good for a fast swarm tactics enjoyer like me

i am in no way smart, so goregrinders gets me. i want to go fast and i want to kick ass without too much thought.

[primal nest]

Also a one of the local resident map makers

Jesus lordt

[feral hearth]

granted, thats a lie, goregrinders requires (especially on maps with alot of terrain stuff) lots of math!

carefully plan every movement lest you cheat

[thorn sky]

luckily not the one i'm bad at so it works

[glacial junco]

Its me the genius i never make mistakes making me the best goregrindwr pla- HEY NO STOP LOOKING AT MY MATCH HISTORY

[thorn sky]

it's me boy i'm the ps5

[feral hearth]

thats where you fail, goregrinders isent for the ultra smart either

[glacial junco]

I like a faction that lets me play chess. I dont need to play kill team. i just need to GET your necromancer

[feral hearth]

yeah, goregrinders is just necromancer chess

but only your playing chess

[thorn sky]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-get-you-gif-24477763

[feral hearth]

and all the pieces are rooks

[thorn sky]

rooks with samurai slash powers

[glacial junco]

Ye

[feral hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-punch-punching-fling-gif-24582824

counterattack

[glacial junco]

I love a good :move through em

[thorn sky]

[valid wedge]

Nerf gore when

[thorn sky]

NEVER! VROOM VROOM, MOTHERFUCKER!

[languid lotus]

aiui grinders get fucked over by armor

[real bane]

can confirm

Fun and easy way to make berserk strictly negative: 3 Enforcers

[glacial junco]

People have been learning the counter strats to gore same way they found it when fighting* carcass when everyone was just learning

[real bane]

I'm not people

[valid wedge]

I'm a deadsouls main. Walls don't stop the grind

Mag armor is not enough

[thorn sky]

haven't tried any factions other than carcass and gg

[thorn sky]

THE SWARM PROVIDES
THE SWARM DECIDES
IF ANYONE ELSE
LIVES OR DIES

[thorn sky]

https://youtu.be/Qyy2yUwcE5o BEHOLD MY DARLING TERRORSAIL

[valid wedge]

Igorri won btw. Stacking Vit on their Homunculus, giving it Phys armor and hiding in the corner to bodyblock kept them alive long enough to shred the opposing necromancer.

[glacial junco]

Big homo too strong SMH /s

[pine crescent]

Is there a delineation between walls and impassable? Or am I bringing too much ICONbrain?

[primal nest]

nope

[valid wedge]

Enemy units are also impassable

[karmic arrow]

Such a dumb question about Berserk, but does berserk trigger the same turn it is activated? Since it is technically after the ACT action? Or is it not until the following action of that unit?

[glacial junco]

If it gained it from the action on the same turn no

[muted hare]

Oh god there was an update at some point

Time to read the change log and get the new version

[valid wedge]

It was a few days after the original?

[muted hare]

Listen

Listen

I'm a very excitable little bean, but I'm also a dunce and just kind of miss things

I only just learned there's been an XCOM style Battletech game on steam that's been around long enough that there are three dlc for it. (And I love love love battle tech)

Also I bought Maleghast day one and then immediately proceeded to forget that I had it after reading the book in one sitting

I'm dumb in cute way according to my wife @w@

[onyx ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/he-a-little-confused-he-got-the-spirit-will-smith-gif-14210749

[willow gust]

yeah I meant to get a game going with irl people then I fell ill and forgot about it and haven't done it yet

[frank plover]

Hey, me and a friend recently got Maleghast and played a game together and while the game was super fun we do have some questions. Like... Corpses. We weren't entirely sure how they worked.

[onyx ermine]

Unless specified corpse are left behind when a unit is slain

[frank plover]

yeah but are they... terrian? Outside of spare parts abilities do they matter?

oh also, because our game was Gargamox vs Igorri, the question of how Mutatation and Plague counters interacted came up a fair amount

[onyx ermine]

I believe they aren’t terrain

Could be wrong

Since corpses are labeled as Tokens, they don’t have a terrain affect if memory serves

[primal nest]

Corpses aren’t anything, although some affects interact with them (spare parts, corpse explosion)

[primal nest]

How so?

[pale echo]

If you don't have those effects you can ignore them

[primal nest]

Yeah

[frank plover]

My friend was under the impression that maybe Mutation counters could counteract plague counters because... well i'm not entirely sure tbh.

[pale echo]

Plague counters don't have an opposite

[primal nest]

Mutation lets the user discard it instead of any other token when it would

The only thing it lets you do with plague is keep it on ur unit (if for some reason you do)

[real bane]

Yeah, discarding mutation tokens in place of another kind is entirely optional

[proper plover]

Gargomax x Igorri Heresy

Rotten + Chopdoc

[ocean bloom]

Ah yes the garbage pail kidd

[muted hare]

Man, I need to start getting some games in so I can understand the mechanics in a more tangible way.

It's one thing to read the books and it's another thing to play the game repeatedly and tell you know it by heart

[proper plover]

Now I want to make a plague doctor Black Mass that spread plagues to cure them in a ritual to some Medicinal Devil

It's mechanics Gargo + Igorri, but the idea of giving someone Cholera just to cure it over and over again is funny to me

[indigo merlin]

Anyone have any recs for a good VTT to run this on?
Picked up the book this morning and it's the first time Foundry hasn't been able to sort me out.

[thorn sky]

roll20 works, but tabletop simulator does too

[pseudo flicker]

most people play the game in roll20 if you can bear through it being what it is

i made a tabletop simulator mod that is also pretty popular

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3072216046

[muted hare]

YOU MAKE VERY COOL THINGS

[pseudo flicker]

adhd maxxing

[pseudo flicker]

i think this is the worst map idea i ever had

[thorn sky]

wow

my eyes are freezing

[pseudo flicker]

i dont have the tiles for somh like that
only for normal rivers

let me cook smh more normal

[thorn sky]

no, like, i would have said burning, but that's too much, so i tried melting, but that was too little, so i now realize i should have gone for electrocuted

[pseudo flicker]

True!

[primal nest]

Hell yeah

I approve

[pseudo flicker]

i think this is more playable

water can be
hazard terrain
adverse terrain
hazard+adverse
obliteration

[thorn sky]

the labyrinthine sewers of anzenmezzeron make for surprisingly good battlegrounds

[pseudo flicker]

this one isnt intended to be sewers, or it wouldve been green xd

[thorn sky]

oh ok

our bad

[primal nest]

ye thats better

also eule i have been updating the rules to the custom terrain in the doc, just fyi

[proven flame]

chaos beam says "OR". does that means rolling higher on the effect dice gives more options?

[frozen quartz]

I had that discussion in the server, the answer is:
RAW, yes, Chaos Beam always has the option to use the fire damage+vulnerable mode, with the dice roll only giving you extra options
RAI, it's random

Although even that first answer is iffy, because all effects in the game that rely on a dice roll always exclude the first effect. Example: Unstable Mutation doesn't say "Effect: (1+) Gain 1 strength, (4+) gain 1 speed, etc." but instead it forgoes the (1+); so you could read Chaos Beam not having (1-2) before the first mode as the same formatting choice

[proven flame]

effect dice exclude the first effect?
cuz on the unstable mutation example you get all the effects on a max roll
i thought it was the effect dice adds effects onto the first, where you put "instead" specifically if youre excluding a previous effect

[frozen quartz]

I read effect dice has being rolled at the start of the ability (or right after you've confirmed the hit in case of an attack)

Then every Effect is spawned by the Effect Dice

With the first Effect of the line always being a "(1+)" effect

With this way of seeing it, Chaos Beam implies (1-2) before the first mode

By "exclude" I guess I meant more "imply without needing to roll for them"

Still, I think that RAI it seems clear that Chaos Beam is completely random, simply because otherwise Igorri would get a useful, reliable tool and they cannot have that /j

[primal nest]

I feel like with how the spare parts effect is worded is that u just pick the result ye

Doesn’t feel like a ‘chaos’ beam if u you can just pick whatever you want

[muted hare]

THE POWER OF HYPER FIXATION CANNOT BE UNDERESTIMATED

[wise sierra]

Hello folks

I was told you guys battle skeletons here and I rushed in

[thorn sky]

RATTLE ME BONES, SO MANY NEWBIES

[wise sierra]

ARR

Also if the user that made The Archive is here, hello I'm the guy that made an expanded playlist for ur homebrew house

[wispy gulch]

@fickle birch Over here pal

[fickle birch]

Ah thanks

Hey everyone new here, I joined because I recently discovered Lancer but I also heard this server had a Magnagothica Maleghast channel, anyways I've been playing MM for a bit and love the setting the flavor everything, I'm a decently experienced DM but I'm trying to figure out what rule system I could use to run this setting besides GURPS any suggestions are welcome.

[thorn sky]

Spooky is working on a ttrpg for this setting i believe

[proven flame]

Engine of Absolution
(Heretic Berserker, Abhorrers flavored)

[glacial junco]

YOOOO

[onyx ermine]

:V

CHONK!!!

[foggy plover]

IsoCON

https://github.com/delzhand/isocon/releases/tag/v0.6.1

[elfin ermine]

👀

[vapid shell]

I feel like I will not pass judgement

[dull zenith]

Hi, question for folks!

So, a friend and I have been learning the game, and we think something is just a bit ambiguous. If an effect says you move a number of spaces, or when you take the MOVE action, do you have to move exactly that many spaces, or can you move up to that many spaces?

[thorn sky]

up to

[storm pine]

Operator

Gonna fuck with the horns and arm positions. Probably going to cut the right elbow so gun is pointing upward. Might remove the knife the left hand is resting on, might sculpt a cigarette between those fingers

Number one Gormengorr fan/GUB enthusiast

Might go with something bigger and chunkier for the Great Urgal Blade. At the very least, extending the grip and pommel

[onyx ermine]

kinda surprised nobody has made a weaboo homebrew house

https://tenor.com/view/bilgiaskerigif-samuraiswordgifs-samuraiwalkinggif-samuraicominggif-samuraisoldierjapangif-gif-24355155

[thorn sky]

we already have abhorrors

[onyx ermine]

ye but they dont have the style

undead ronins are such a cool vibe

[thorn sky]

if you want samurai zombies, diy

[onyx ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-i-just-might-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-i-might-do-it-gif-25853854

after Zeitlos is complete of course

just need to finish the zepplin and two Necro token art

Fortigor already has an honour system

so maybe something akin to deadsouls with dueling isolated targets

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-of-tsushima-video-game-sword-windy-gif-16279357

i digress, going back to completing zeitlos

[prime portal]

I just realized one of my OCs would.make a great Carcass Necromancer

(Art by Will Kirkby)

[onyx ermine]

oooo vikings with guns, make a whole house instead :3

[feral hearth]

is there alike a brush you got for all the hatching? this is so good!!!

[onyx ermine]

its a feature called halftone

no brush sadly

[feral hearth]

O

idk half the features on my app so ill look for that now

[onyx ermine]

procreate?

[feral hearth]

Clip Studio

[onyx ermine]

https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/1258

here ya go bud

[feral hearth]

[onyx ermine]

someone helped me find it on procreate so im just pushing the good will forward fren

[feral hearth]

A

💗

[real bane]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

I'm gonna make screentones work in Paint.NET or so help me the Almighty

[thorn sky]

good mourning, folks

i didn't sleep

[real bane]

true to name I suppose

[fickle birch]

I also slept awful despite me having a 5am shift

That I'm currently at

Oh also had a ruling question regarding painwheel

So if I use the move action first can I no longer use spin out since I already moved and if I can use it do I have the full 5mv on it or is it quite literally as far as painwheel can go in a straight line on the board unobstructed

[feral hearth]

the action uses the character as if it is Moving in that straight line

so you will be hindered by terrain and such

if i understand it right

[fickle birch]

So I can move then use the act ability

[feral hearth]

yep, its an Act after all

[fickle birch]

Sick

But it's not limited to 5 MV?

[feral hearth]

it is.

thats the point

i think, thats how our table ruled it

[real bane]

Yeah, you move until you've moved five spaces or hit an impassable tile, whichever comes first

decide to draw a simple sketch of a homebrew unit to try out screentone plugin
nothing fancy, draw a little skeleton, add some details
it looks absolutely dogshit pardon the language
just painful to look upon
can't bring myself to finish on account of looking at it makes me cringe

"ence it's just a sketch" "ence you haven't drawn at all in around a decade" "ence you're using a mouse" this changes nothing

[fickle birch]

The mind goblins are too powerful

[valid wedge]

Note that that it uses the MOVE keyword because it triggers Barbed Wheel

[onyx ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/showme-show-me-morpheus-gif-5144220

[real bane]

(for context, the homebrew house I'm drawing from is based on the units the core houses doesn't have, this one being the Freak that Deadsouls forgot)

The important part is that the shading effect looks good, eh Luigi

[thorn sky]

A group of the discarded...wonderful

[thorn sky]

looks like a puppet

[real bane]

was sort of kind of the intent with the face paint

not sure where the idea came from but it did

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHkZkq4FvM9pDn-UhlVQk9n2OpMklAI7Xi_xweh1Edc/edit?usp=sharing
(The whole house, because I feel like I can't just mention it and not link it)

[onyx ermine]

House: Cool-aid drinkers

Not a bad idea honestly

[thorn sky]

So raise a glass for those the houses forgot along the way
For while they hide from peering eyes, the others get to play
It matters not who you harm, who you kill, defeat, and slay
For the misfits of anzenmezzeron will soon have their day

[valid wedge]

That pull act is bonkers

[onyx ermine]

Tho u might need to find your houses niche, since it just feels like it’s taking a lot of the stuff from Abhorrers and deadsouls

[real bane]

Each unit, in addition to the house it's "from", uses a mechanic or two from another house as well

[onyx ermine]

most mechanics are house based only

Taking bits from every house might prove problematic power-wise (with respect)

[real bane]

Most likely, yeah. Kinda makes for an absolutely incomprehensible playstyle too

I figured it was more a neat idea than anything else

[onyx ermine]

Tis

And I’d love to see it

Just warning ya to be mindful since ur technically building a pseudo heresy house

[real bane]

true

I guess you could also treat it as just, a collection of units to slot back into their respective houses and deface tom's design, but then those crossover mechanics are out of place.

[onyx ermine]

On the actual unit so far if ur looking for critque, it might be a tad…..lot broken

Like where ur going with it, just needs some tweaking

Like the 5+ DF with Magic armour

[real bane]

That's like, the entirety of deadsouls

[onyx ermine]

That’s because of their attritional abilities and playstyle

[real bane]

how so?

[onyx ermine]

Before I say anything

What’s vigour?

[thorn sky]

extra hp

[onyx ermine]

:v

[thorn sky]

the entire gimmick of abhorrors

[onyx ermine]

Isn’t that vitality

[real bane]

oh hell did I get my ICON wire crossed

[thorn sky]

ence did you mix them up?

[real bane]

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-again-foil-again-cat-kitten-gif-24575588

[onyx ermine]

Either way this unit feels like it’s gonna be unkillable based on its vitality gain on abilities and every turn ended ( if I’m reading the vigour correctly)

[real bane]

(I'm also not sure what that trait is about, generally)

Splash (self) doesn't include the acting unit, does it?

[onyx ermine]

Ye I’m aware

Ur basically giving free hp for existing

[real bane]

I have no recollection of what my thought process was with the trait, for the record

"then why haven't you changed it out" eto, bleh

[onyx ermine]

That’s alright, it’s homebrew, it always takes a lot of critique before u get anywhere

Anyway a unit with +5 and magic df gaining any sort of vitality with abilities I think is problematic

[real bane]

That's fair, although it can't give any to itself as it stands

oh but you can just have two freaks buffing each other

ok yeah no this needs reworking lol

[onyx ermine]

Aloooot

I recommend using the core house units abilities and adding ur own altered spin on it

[thorn sky]

as someone who has dealt with the true power of vitality, yeah that shit's busted

[real bane]

(never really felt too freak-y, either. not sure what to do about it, I don't feel like deadsouls mechanics lend themselves well to a support moveset)

(I suppose that's why they don't have one)

[thorn sky]

hey, the misfits aren't really meant to fit in, so it doesn't matter if it fully fits

[onyx ermine]

Since it’s a freak maybe cut the df down to 3+ to get a base for it first

Units with armour usually have less hp to make it balanced

[real bane]

3+ and 3 HP is just begging to get ganked on turn 1 by any physical damage

[onyx ermine]

That’s what freaks are

They rely on other units

[real bane]

Every other freak has 4+/4

(except pain ghoul who true to GG theme has 3+ def)

[thorn sky]

Goregrinders
We kill fast
We die fast

[real bane]

Three of those have magic armor too

[onyx ermine]

Gotta keep ur abilities in mind

[real bane]

subject to change

[onyx ermine]

I’m not saying keep it as is I’m saying u might benefit from make a base first

Ye

Then when u get feeling for the units strengths and weaknesses, tweak accordingly

Resonance, is a tad busted on the weak splash but there’s way to fix that

Unholy voice gotta go/be replaced

[tired bolt]

https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/1170699117454962848 hey gang we have a maleghast homebrew thread for a reason. i understand sometimes the conversation just leads to it naturally but please do try to switch over to the right place in the future

[dull torrent]

playing Igorri in a 2v2 scenario (Spite level, Accelerate Evo and Recycle on necromancer, crew of Strigoi, 2 Lycans and a Homunculus) and damn, this is super fun

Homunculus is now my favorite unit, I love Homie

it's only the start of round 3 and they already Absorbed 2 enemy Gargamox units

[thorn sky]

hypermutated homunculus releases hell on enemies

[dull torrent]

yess

[thorn sky]

more at 5

[dull torrent]

it's so tanky

like, i had mine just stand in the middle of the map - in 4 hazard spaces - and it just ate up the damage

[feral hearth]

i am also in that fight as goregrinders, im basically slain lmao

[dull torrent]

yes, Sunny's gonna be deleted soon

[thorn sky]

As I said

Goregrinders
We kill fast
We die fast

[dull torrent]

silly table screenshot

[thorn sky]

I can understand this and that scares a few of us

[feral hearth]

imma take a couple of you with me though

[thorn sky]

KILL FAST
DIE FAST

[feral hearth]

i considered attaking Homie but i just hope Sharkie plagues him at some point and annihilates them

[dull torrent]

someone setting themselves up to be recycled

[feral hearth]

i cant take on Homie

its the perfect counter

[dull torrent]

Homie has 6 hp, it can live for long enough

[feral hearth]

yeah? painwheel could exfoliate them for max like 4 damage and burn all your mutations

[dull torrent]

which one, painwheel 1?

fair enough

one small thing though, painwheel 1 gets deleted any time it goes

[primal nest]

noooooo the poor scum

[dull zenith]

Hey, sorry to interrupt, rules question

If a Zealot uses Smite on one turn and the next Whirling Chain grazes, does the extra damage still apply because the effect isn't inherent to the attack?

[pale echo]

That's how I read it

[dull zenith]

Makes sense

And secondly, does Smite stack with itself?

[pine crescent]

Thinking about what isocon needs for better maleghast support. Definitely a "convert to corpse" menu option for tokens at 0 HP (miracle means it shouldn't happen automatically, right?), and a better way to create/destroy walls are two high candidates. Automatically increasing SOUL for necros on round advance is an easy add.

[vast axle]

Just starting the game; any advice on a Deadsouls build? I tried just slapping all the unit types and it seemed fine but what particular unit types are worth it to double down on?

[primal nest]

assumable not

[dull zenith]

Do we have a precedent to make it assumedly not?

[primal nest]

cuz winch has a specific clause that says it stacks

so smite probably would have that if it did

[proper plover]

Banshee + 2 Chosen+ 2 Vizigeists is my go to for Deadsouls

[naive glacier]

no ability stacks with itself that is explicitly RAW

abilities of the same name do not stack

that's why there is an exception w/ winch

[honest flower]

Not sure if I’m just being daft but the effect on hit for the Gargamox Plaguelord states you can “detonate a plague token on a unit”. My initial thought was oh it must be on the target that you’ve hit but I’m not certain if the wording supports that or if it just lets you pop any plague token on one unit of your choice

This is for their base virulence attack by the by

[valid wedge]

Pretty sure it means "on the unit"

[real bane]

The Repentant's Tomb

The courtyard reeks of death. Still, this forgotten religious order's only tomb holds clues to Anzenmezzeron's heart.

Mushrooms are adverse, the tomb's walls are walls, and the tombstones outside grant cover. The opposing necromancers are both seeking the clues in the tomb; a side loses if their necromancer is not in the 2x2 space in the tomb's entrance at the end of round 6. Players deploy not on opposing sides but on the two adjacent sides in the map's south.

[pine crescent]

I should add sitreps to isocon maps

[fleet violet]

Not sure if this has been asked before, but I can't get discord to search a specific thread. How does the Igorri necromancer's Clone ability work?

I can see reading it as anywhere from decent to ridiculously broken

(Does the cloned unit get a separate turn? How does it interact with base/current HP and tokens? Etc.)

Basically "how exact is the copy?"

[pseudo flicker]

its an exact copy

if it is yet to activate, it can activate
if it was activated this round, it cant

its essentially a movement ability i think

[fleet violet]

So it's just a Fancy Teleport (TM)? Same HP, same tokens?

[naive glacier]

yes

its a movement ability that is for fun

it does however not count as 'moving' a unit so can bypass some of that

[umbral cipher]

take your boy and put them over there instead

[dense crest]

be the bonewheel you always dreamed to be

[thorn sky]

DARK SOULS TIME

[dense crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEwWzMz99A Blast this on max and just zip zoom around the map with Painwheel spam
Will you win?
You will win as long as you have fun

[storm pine]

DS homies

How do you use Sacrifices

I have never once found a reason to take a pair instead of another Vizigheist or Banshee

They apply curse reasonably well, but die so easily that it undoes any use that might offer

They give slightly more SOUL for that clutch turn 4 Great Satania but idk if the 1 extra SOUL potential is worth it

Every single other unit does forced movement better than them

*DS unit

[latent sun]

Free pull. Decent Doom potential. Free walls or adverse terrain. Can ACT at the same time. Applies reliable Weak with an upgrade.
Can pull targets in the place of, say, your Chosen, freeing up their actions for other nonsense. Can set up other unit's nonsense pretty reliably.

Take hits in place of your other units.

The two acting at the same time is a lot of their power.

They can focus pulls on one target to make it harder to unisolate them, split the pulls between targets to make the opponent choose which character to try and protect, one can pull while the other hits them.

[dense crest]

Honestly from all the houses I feel DS is the one that mostly needs a fanguide asap

[latent sun]

We're just spitballing here, we have yet to, like.
Play the game, haha, but that's our read on possible uses.

[dense crest]

oh!
My shift ends soon if you like, wanna, I can see if I can play with ya

Remember to give funny names to your Black Mass
My Abhorrer gang is called Dark Souls 3 faith Build

[latent sun]

We'll get back to you on that if we're interested.

[thorn sky]

excuse me while i go do that

[dense crest]

My sister reaction when I played Abhorrer against her Igorri:
"Fucking annoying ass House holyfuckingshit let me kill you for fuck sake, just die, JUST FUCKING DIE URGH"

[thorn sky]

WHY WON'T YOU DIE!?
Miracles, son. They save me in response to near death.

[dense crest]

And life tokens
So many life tokens
Like
Just spam Life Tokens until turn 4 then you can start doing the funny thing

[thorn sky]

i've fought that

fucking 10 hp inquisitor

[latent sun]

The only mass we have really cooked up is like
one of each Deadsouls unit (so Chosen, Visi, Banshee, Demon, and two Sacrifices)

[dense crest]

I tried a few

[thorn sky]

wait, you call EGIS weapons Bone Gears too?

[dense crest]

Of course

[thorn sky]

Bone Gear Solid when Bone Gears Liquid and Naked walk in

[latent sun]

There's a google sheet for Maleghast?

[thorn sky]

you can make one

[dense crest]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZGHNonr32z1FgrJwC27VipCaeFCb8WDIp4PnSdk7wnA/edit?usp=sharing

It's on the pinned comments

[latent sun]

oh 😔
someone else has not done the work for us
wait! someone else has done the work for us!!! yipee

We'll get cooking on a mass we suppose.

[dense crest]

yeeee

[naive glacier]

next update, whenever it comes out, will probably have a few things tuning down goregrinders and ill look at usability across the board

probably very minor though

[hollow aspen]

Hype

[primal nest]

Hell yeah

I excited to see what everyone gets

I wonder how accurate the changes I’m thinkin up will be

[fickle birch]

Any advice on goregrider comps, I tried using Berserker, painwheel, painghoul, and carnifex. But I felt like my berserker and necromancer did all the work. Pain ghoul was really useful though

Carnifex felt pretty bad to use but maybe that's just because my rolls were unlucky and never got to use retaliation

[primal nest]

what does ur necro have and what malice (also what units are u doubling up on and who are u fighting against)

[thorn sky]

everytime someone says malice my first thought is the stuff from botw

[fickle birch]

Me and my friends are just starting to play so we've been playing on 0 malice until we get a good grasp on the units and the various rulings

Have a handful of games under our belts

[primal nest]

when you find the ending of death ya get a title card that says "Great King Of Evil" that shows up when u enter a room

[fickle birch]

And I took killing spree, and Apoplexy

My friends play igorri and abhorror

[primal nest]

Yeesh. Yeah unfortunately spite Goregrinders is really going to struggle into those two, especially abhorrers. U just don’t have enough options to deal with them

It is gonna end up that ur berserker and warlord is gonna put in a lot more work

[hollow aspen]

IMO 3X Carnifex with Rile is very strong.

Oh with Spite you don't get Rile. That said against Abhorrors Strength gain is pretty important, I still think Carnifex is super important.

[pseudo flicker]

3x scion is in general strong

[latent sun]

3 Enforcers 🙏

[fickle birch]

Also with berserker and my necromancer having multi hit attacks does that mean I could use multiple attack tokens since they do separate instances of damage

[pale echo]

Yep

[primal nest]

3 rotten

[pseudo flicker]

3 penitent

[latent sun]

3 chosen ❓

[thorn sky]

3 sacrifices (grizzly bear summon.sfx)

[latent sun]

got cheated out of the fourth sacrifice 😔

[pseudo flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/work-penguin-lego-create-make-gif-14370027608174902570

[latent sun]

3 chosen, 2 banshees

construct an impassible barrier and then shoot

[gentle leaf]

one upside of Sacrifices, which is very specific but very useful when its relevant, is that they provide the only non-Curse Pull in Deadsouls

so they can bypass Curseproof

[thorn sky]

Enemy has curseproof
"Not to worry, we killed a man just because of this possibility!"

[primal nest]

ye honestly sacrifices are pretty nice in regards to displacement

they just seem pretty awkward in regards to playing around doom

[dense stratus]

https://youtu.be/S5xrXc3kAcM?si=MTZxu31IOEM-0HnG Anzenmezzeron Hell Games, a Maleghast actual play, episode 1, is out!

[narrow coyote]

is there a lil spot where people have shared their own maleghast maps?

[thorn sky]

here

and homebrew channel sometimes

[primal nest]

hey DK is cool if i post a link to the map drive in the comments?

[dense stratus]

oh sure!

[primal nest]

thx!

figure not everyone playing this is in pnet

[dense stratus]

actuall I'm just gonna put it up myself, I have autoblock set up for comments with link because those are usually bots, they were supposed to be sent to be reviewed by me but now it seems like they often just bloody disappear

[thorn sky]

was wondering where it was

[primal nest]

ah i see

also man lookin at this vid makes me really wanna get that map asset update done

[cursive narwhal]

Just wanted to chime in and say hi. I'm new to Maleghast but want to get into playing it.

[primal nest]

welcome

you have come to right place

[foggy plover]

I too want to get into playing it
But
Timezone woes
and a bit of social anxiety 😢

[narrow coyote]

whats your timezone my dude? ive got two buddies of mine ive nabbed into playing it on Wednesdays, and ive been wanting to rope one more person in lmao

[foggy plover]

JST (UTC+9)

[dull zenith]

Rules question

CARCASS, does Two Barrel Shotgun on a Bone Shards cursed unit deal 1 or 2 curse damage from bone shards?

[foggy plover]

Bone Shards damage applies after ACT resolves: It's 1 dmg per ACT, regardless of number of push/pulls

[bleak folio]

i just realized goregrinders + carcass + white is just

lesbian flag

[real bane]

Warlord and Operator ARE dating

[dense crest]

With respawn being just a thing in life, killing your SO is no biggie :3

[glacial junco]

Operator: "I wish you wouldn't rip my arm off before you kill me every time"

Warlord: "I wanted to hold your hand while i waited 🥺 "

[dense crest]

That's adorable

[onyx ermine]

funny thing is if i remember correctly coming back is a lottery

if u die u get malformed into something else

[glacial junco]

Perhaps for some. I don't see that as a hard and fast lore bit though

[valid wedge]

Sacrifices are DS's only non-curse pull. They are essential against abhorrer comps that use the curseproof aura guy. Pulling 1 or 2 guys out of the formation is essential.

[dense crest]

So you use Sacrifices as a way to ensure isolation ?

[shut scarab]

Gunwight base sculpt almost done

[valid wedge]

Yeah. Or even just pull them out enough for your chosen to kidnap them or your banshee to deal damage.

[worthy steppe]

Do you have an MMF or Patreon?

[onyx ermine]

Gunwight version gives me scorn vibes

And a skeletal turtle look

Very unique

[shut scarab]

No patreon yet but there’s a link to my cults in my bio. I’m not sure I’ll be releasing these though.

[primal nest]

added a marker for activated units

I think that’s it for markers for now. Atleast until Steeplewrack comes out

[smoky meteor]

ammo goblin file?

[shut scarab]

Not available. Its a direct copy of Tom's drawing so I won't be releasing it.

[smoky meteor]

who?

[valid wedge]

The creator

[smoky meteor]

so where is he realsing the units?

[tacit cedar]

because of the derivative nature of Julian's ammo goblin sculpt (being a direct copy of the official art), they are not releasing that model

[smoky meteor]

oh I thought he was saying he didn't make the sculpt, and tom did.

So in other words Julian just doesn't wanna share his model file because it's too accurate to the source material.

[worthy steppe]

I would argue more “doesn’t feel comfortable releasing his model file without Tom’s express permission and blessing because it’s directly based on and very accurate to the source material” as opposed to “doesn’t want to”

Could probably kitbash some pretty decent ammo goblins from the various tyranid proxy files though.

Start with something like this and find a more mosquito-nose head to hack onto it, perhaps

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/free-little-artillery-space-bug-nick

[smoky meteor]

I geuss I could use some greenstuff for that

[storm pine]

WORD

Important DS tips

-In general, you need to play like a horror movie villain. Most DS units will lose a fair fight, and will fold easily if outnumbered. Isolation is key. Kidnap through walls, pop walls in your enemy's path of retreat, do whatever you can (you have tons of tools for this, I think we have more pull moves than any other House?) to get targets separated from one another, then kill them. Your big hitters are a properly kitted Dark Priest (I love GUB and Tear Soul. Don't sleep on Maggot Destroyer, even in the face of Puppet Master's obvious strength.) Banshees, and Vizigheists. Bound Devils can be good, but I find they kind of work against the general flow of the House. We want more walls, and their main damage output is reliant on deleting lots of walls at once.

-One of the most valuable things you can do with a turn is create a wall. Make use of Banshees, Chosen, and Cyclopean Monolith (you can even do it on enemy turns!!!!!! For 1 SOUL!!!!!!!) They get in your opponent's way, cut off escape routes to better Isolate, create cover for you and your mostly squishy low HP units, and they magnify your Banshee Screams and Devil Limb From Limbs. Sometimes making a wall has higher value for setup and positioning than actually dealing direct damage. Wall it up baybee

-DS are not a durable army whatsoever. That MAG plus high is nice, but they generally have the lowest HP of any faction, so even graze damage can take them out, especially when STR tokens are a factor. Thankfully they have lots of vectors for Weak tokens. Use them!

-Doom sounds appealing and absolutely devastating on paper, but-
SIKE it is. Just not in the way you'd expect. The THREAT of a turn 4 Doom hammer drop is one of the most valuable things about it. It's terrifying, and opponents will go out of their way and abandon their well thought out strategies to get rid of Doom tokens, especially as t4 gets closer. Capitalize on that, or go for an end of t4 Great Satania.

HAIL GORMENGORR

I've had luck with Bound Devils at higher malice levels, but mostly using them as an isolating tool, damage sponge, and doom token dispenser with that one upgrade, not much luck using them as a direct damage dealer

[valid wedge]

I had success with the tyrant against abhorrer or other high armor builds. Abhorrer just tried to stand still the whole match so I was able to dish out 3 Limb from Limbs before they could kill my devil. Let my eviscerate their tyrant through all its base vitality.

[undone atlas]

Are there any Foundry assets or systems for this game yet? Just want to know before I start trying to set it all up from scratch with what's included in the itch.io purchase

[silent sluice]

pins

[undone atlas]

Thanks!

Didn't know threads could have pins

[sand kernel]

what do people usually play digital maleghast on?

[pale echo]

there's a tabletop simulator mod, foundry and roll20 work too

[sand kernel]

ahhh tq

[cursive narwhal]

I'm currently hyper focused and making maps with graph paper.

[undone atlas]

Pencil and graph paper, just as our ancestors did 👍

[sand kernel]

diagonals dont count as adjacent for Isolation, do they?

[craggy iron]

they do

as long as a space is next to a unit, they count as adjacent

[sand kernel]

i see

usually DS aim to play a relatively long game right? Like Abhorers?

[craggy iron]

yeah. they generally want to apply doom, then stay alive as long as possible

[sand kernel]

how much token removal is there in the game?

[pale echo]

I think every faction has access to at least a little

[feral hearth]

Everyone gets a bit of obliterate as a treat