MAGNAGOTHICA MALEGHAST

[rich scarab]

as a FAQ's a comin

[rugged musk]

We're

[versed ravine]

Okay so

Anything with the word “reload” on it needs you to sacrifice an MV before you reuse it yeah

How does the CARCASS Thrall’s Tactical Reload work

[rugged musk]

Just stack buffs

I had a stacked barrel morph with 3 strength tokens on it but it died before shooting anything. It was sad

[versed ravine]

Is it just “When you make a headshot, you can’t make any more headshots until you reload, but you get one strength”?

[tiny fulcrum]

Unless you reload a different way

No , Tac Reload automatically reloads you

[tacit cedar]

nah the headshot means you reload for free

[rugged musk]

Does Reloading a unit (like ammo goblin) reload ALL reload properties?

[tacit cedar]

reload is binary

[bleak folio]

yea tac reload is using the verb reload

[tacit cedar]

all weapons unload when you fire any of them

and vice versa when you reload

[bleak folio]

not the tag for abilities

[rugged musk]

I thought it was a use per weapon, good to have that cleared up

[versed ravine]

Okay

[opaque socket]

I think Reload, the tag, means you need to sacrifice a move to use it if you used one

[versed ravine]

I think I wish Unload and Reload were different rather than being the two contexts for the word Reload in abilities

[opaque socket]

and reload, the effect, means you reload your abilities with the reload tag

[rugged musk]

Gun kata headshot S.T.G.

[lethal trench]

S.T.G is really weird
because its a big commitment for the Carcass player, and basically means you can't really use any Soul otherwise

but it also presents a huge threat if the enemy necro is ever not covered

[tacit cedar]

I think it's better with heresy for a thrall that's good at trading

and then devil bullet

[candid monolith]

Thinking about Blood Drinker / Apoplexy / Killing Spree for my Warlord. Just go for maximum frenzy mode.

[rugged musk]

On the previously mentioned "devil impact tie", before the tie I hit a headshot on my weapon with 6 soul, but given we were at Spite level I only picked up Overwatch

I don't know if I regret it, but a final round S.T.G. would have been so good

[tacit cedar]

which I would say gunwights aren't great for cause they feel like they wanna be in cover and plink

mostly cause they're very slow

[rugged musk]

Gunwights are basically markerlights with a small push ability

[short cloud]

is necrocide or carniphagous blade better with spreader?

[lethal trench]

Gunwights are great honestly

ignoring armor on their attack is huge

[weak igloo]

Gunwights are legitimately one of the biggest threats in the game

[lethal trench]

and you get a bunch of them

they can very quickly focus things down

[weak igloo]

If I run carcass I’m gonna have a hard time not taking 4

[lethal trench]

if you get just a bit lucky with headshots, they murder things very fast

[weak igloo]

Especially at higher levels with things like might and reload on headshot

[tacit cedar]

gunwights are awesome which is why you don't want them to mass die to enable stg haha

[rich scarab]

Yeah just take a whole bunch of gunwhights, nothing could go wrong Splash isnt real

[weak igloo]

I mean I don’t think anything besides stitches and warheads you actually plan to die

[lethal trench]

your enemy will still want to take them out quickly though

[rich scarab]

There's things you have to be more aggressive with and who you have to accept will probably die

Stiches are also quite tanky because they can gain Vit

[rugged musk]

Heresy level, gunwights + antipriests

[tiny fulcrum]

Warheads are amazing disruptors since they're the tankiest thralls in the game

[rugged musk]

Fear

[candid monolith]

Crazy how the Berserker has formation

I'm into it tho

[rugged musk]

My thoughts exactly

[tiny fulcrum]

It's supposed to be Blood Rage

[crisp night]

it's supposed to have blood rage

[candid monolith]

Oh that makes a lot more sense

[rugged musk]

Typo

[candid monolith]

So far I'm really excited for seeing what four warheads and two painwheels can do

[opaque socket]

you're right the typos aren't excusable Tom's been working on this for like, months he should have caught them/s

[rugged musk]

I know he had to crunch to release on halloween

He must rest

After 1 match against Goregrinders, my impression is you're playing chess but you capture like in checkers and all your pieces are rooks

[candid monolith]

Release a patched copy, included new, funnier typos

[rugged musk]

I need examples

[candid monolith]

I'm not funny enough to give them

[candid monolith]

Sounds ideal to me

[rugged musk]

The biggest counter to warheads is standing in front of a wall

[vague elbow]

every time you open the PDF it adds "Based" to a random statblock's traits

[tiny fulcrum]

Goregrinders seem legitimately strong with certain abilities on tap

[candid monolith]

Just gotta make sure I'm not nuking myself with Berserker

[tame pasture]

i just got

deadsouled

[candid monolith]

"funny damage token backfires your mini is gone"

Soul dead'd

[opaque socket]

classic dead soul play

[arctic solar]

abhorrors seem incredible based almost entirely on being able to field 4 units with super armor at once

[opaque socket]

frozen hell if I had to guess

[tame pasture]

monolith

[arctic solar]

u better be able to deal 2 damage in one hit somehow

[candid monolith]

Abhorrers seem pretty cool yeah

[silent sluice]

It's basically just a reminder

[umbral cipher]

i'm trapped

[candid monolith]

Embrace your draw with dignity

[opaque socket]

wait they used 4 soul on 4 turns ?

wild

well

1 soul

on 4 turns

[random onyx]

"the night is always deadest before the soul" - jörℊe deadsoul

[rustic maple]

All Houses engage in war, but to Hause Grudgebearers the ritual gestures of war are an act of worship in and of themselves. In their hands, hatred of the enemy is beaten through sheer repetition into a rifle and a bayonet and hardened into the courage to charge headlong into the front, die, and then rinse yourself off and repeat anew.

[candid monolith]

Metal

[opaque socket]

POV: you are fighting Deadsouls

[rugged musk]

Someone give me the list for deadsouls horny jail

[willow flame]

For the love of god, montresor!

[rustic maple]

Haven't bought this game yet (doing favors for my mother to earn the requisite Six Bux) but already hacing Homebrew Thoughts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AFdwoyNT24

This is the song that inspired the faction.

[candid monolith]

Just a bunch of upside down goobers on crosses shouting WALL WALL WALL

[rugged musk]

The wall, the wall, the wall, no man on earth can make it fall

[willow flame]

Ooh hey that reminds me, how’s all the corpse generation/consumption stuff on igorri feel to use?

[candid monolith]

But there is one they fear

[willow flame]

It looks like it should activate some neurons

[opaque socket]

This is me when I play Deadsouls

https://youtu.be/rGflu3TbREo?si=muAGt_AgOgJcINiK

[rugged musk]

Wall breakers (2elixir, epic rarity)

[queen nebula]

Dear god. I Do Not Like That Unit.

[subtle nest]

ymca but it's dragon ball music

[opaque socket]

wait until you hear this one

https://youtu.be/7-RDShwdWc0?si=z4TUg4wgeHicZlki

(but it does sound more like a Dragon Quest final boss music)

[rugged musk]

Dragon ball C (a)

[umbral cipher]

https://youtu.be/DsoCe7C4Kmk?si=rDpBzOR_5A0K_6d3

[rugged musk]

Is the ammo goblin bomb more similar to Vegeta's sacrifice or 16's self destruct

[crisp night]

a cask of gormengorr

[candid monolith]

Let me out there's nobody to kill in here but me

[nova mason]

https://tenor.com/view/megan-mullally-karen-walker-will-and-grace-fingergun-wink-gif-17268764613034000932

Just baby jail until they give up lol

[candid monolith]

I've been put in time out

[nova mason]

Why kill your enemy when you can time them out or annoy them so much they forfeit lol

[thick sphinx]

Presumably the devil right next to you is about to let you out in the most violent way possible

[tame pasture]

i feel like im playing chess

and everyone else is playing jumanji

[subtle nest]

chess has never been more fun

[tame pasture]

like i keep on getting boxed in

[crisp night]

are all of the brown spots walls

[tame pasture]

yes

[crisp night]

hahaha

i can't wati to play deadsouls

[tame pasture]

update

so i think i just loose

[thick sphinx]

That's a lotta soul & actions spent on walls

[crisp night]

such is the deadsouls way

[tame pasture]

its clearly paying off

i cant do anything

in a literal sense

[umbral cipher]

when you come to it and you can't go through it and you can't knock it down

[rich scarab]

Walls are like, the counter to CARCASS

You need to see people to shoot them

[umbral cipher]

You can shoot walls

[thick sphinx]

I mean, skull crack one-hit KOs a wall

[umbral cipher]

But that does cost actions n' time

[tame pasture]

not while weak

(they're weak)

sniper could do it

(they're weak)

oop nope

[umbral cipher]

you know what you've found
the wall, the wall, the wall

[thick sphinx]

Seems like you really want that Heavy Caliber Cannon on your EGIS

[tame pasture]

dead

[crisp night]

that line of sight sure can going away

[vague elbow]

were learning counter-picks in real time

[brave robin]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3069912035 im sure others have posted some but i got round to making a super bare bones tts mod

[tame pasture]

genuinely the walls are just

so cheap

and spammable

[crisp night]

how much damage did the devil do

[tame pasture]

none

[crisp night]

or did it get smoked

Welp

[tame pasture]

smoked

[naive glacier]

im gonna tone down the wall creation in the typo update

[thick sphinx]

Think focus-firing on the wall-makers might work better? Devil seems like a bit of a distraction carnifex here

[crisp night]

awww

[tame pasture]

thank god

[crisp night]

i gotta get some matches in before then

[naive glacier]

(just slightly) its just a little too high atm

[crisp night]

i do agree though especially looking at

[naive glacier]

I think the comp I used in test didn't have that much wall stuff

[crisp night]

this image

[naive glacier]

lol

[crisp night]

what abilities did the deadsouls necro have

acts and soul

[umbral cipher]

bad and naughty necromancers get put in The Box

[tame pasture]

we're running foul monuments as placing walls instead of terrain

[naive glacier]

base + malebolge i don't remember the rest

[tame pasture]

which i assume is correct

[naive glacier]

yeah thats one of the ones im gonna change I think 3 walls at once on a good roll might be too much lol

[nova mason]

Deadsouls be like "everyone gets a free house"

[naive glacier]

just a little map cluttered

[tame pasture]

just little bit

[crisp night]

lucky me i didn't intend to use foul monuments anyway

[tame pasture]

og map only had 4 walls in the middle

[crisp night]

even if it's probably te better option

[naive glacier]

I will say it is rough on carcass especially though

[crisp night]

i like ivory serpent too much

[naive glacier]

you do have pretty good wall clear with the egis

[tame pasture]

rip egis

[tranquil mural]

as the person against gamba. i did focus the aegis knowing that

[naive glacier]

splash damage also damages walls

[nova mason]

I do like the idea that deadsouls is just baby jail Ngl

[naive glacier]

enforcer fire grenade can take care of them ok if you can get los

[tame pasture]

oh i thought they were immune to splash

[naive glacier]

no

they are not

they can be damaged by anything

[tame pasture]

"if you can get los"

[naive glacier]

lol

i will be adding a clarification but walls can take splash damage, line damage, etc

[tame pasture]

lets see if i can escape this anywho

before doom does doom things

[naive glacier]

good luck

I will say from the tests I've done I think token clear is pretty good to have

[crisp night]

what round are you on currently

[tame pasture]

3

[umbral cipher]

Token clear is good shit yeah

[crisp night]

oh

good luck

[tame pasture]

bound devil died last round

[thick sphinx]

https://youtu.be/Nw_cdqQHGA8?si=9q9G4us2FTQW3K7I

[nova mason]

Deadsouls be like "I am Satan's most powerful brick layer"

[crisp night]

we can make this hellish plane of existence a hellish plane of home

[rugged musk]

The Fortnite players

Everyone playing necromancy while they playing Minecraft

[crisp night]

2v2 with deadsouls and mox on the same team would be fucking ridiculous

interior decorators

[rugged musk]

Doesn't the holy body ignore LoS when laying down hazards? That sounds funnier

[nova mason]

So my planned heresy?

[crisp night]

good heresy

[crisp night]

i think so yes

[nova mason]

Just bricks and piss everywhere lol

[crisp night]

my heresy will most likely be deadsouls and abhorrers

because i really like abhorrers

i just like deadsouls a little more

[rugged musk]

Step 1: kill the enemy wall destroyers

Step 2:

[nova mason]

That's my reason for my heresy

My two faves

[candid monolith]

MALEGHAST: crustpunk edition

[tame pasture]

i escaped

just kidding

twist sinews undid it

[crisp night]

haw haw

[nova mason]

I'm brick goth pisspunk pilled

[elfin ermine]

hows tyrants 2x2 factor in terrain for movement?

[tame pasture]

checkmate

[elfin ermine]

any space on adverse terrain?

[tame pasture]

2 turns into round 4

impossible to win now

[gloomy shell]

What's the map being made using?

[tame pasture]

tiles

[thick sphinx]

I'm amazed that sacrifice is still alive

Lucky little blighter

[tame pasture]

#icon-resources message

[tame pasture]

needed to throw nade to soften up wall

then broke wall with op

walked out

start of next round got shoved back in and walled

[night hedge]

have a uni society event today with mild halloween dress up so going as a necromancer

[gloomy shell]

i appreciate it thanks

[tame pasture]

tldr

[umbral cipher]

hell yeah

[gloomy shell]

idk how to search in threads

[crisp night]

i think i'm gonna use that funny little pixel tileset that dogfriend showed off earlier

[tame pasture]

i was playing chess

they were playing 6d chess

[crisp night]

remember to bring your thralls

[thick sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/shameful-disappointed-box-of-shame-time-out-peek-gif-2226136612302321200

[tame pasture]

with interdimensional time travel

[night hedge]

admittedly v generic halloween vibes but it’s not gonna be everyone in costume so not pulling out all the stops

[night hedge]

oh tru

[crisp night]

walking into the function with my pair of stitches

[tame pasture]

will note

thralls being able to make more soul

kinda crazy

[glacial junco]

i love your mantle\cloak

[candid monolith]

Imagine getting to dress up as a thrall and just act like a goblin following the boss around

[glacial junco]

Shawl?

[tame pasture]

which helped fuel this wall strat a lot

[crisp night]

what was their team comp

i see the chosen, gheist, devil, and one sacrifice

did they have a banshee or something else

[nova mason]

This is just like subs with their dom on casual walks lol

[tame pasture]

Traits         |   Act Abilities       |Soul Abilities
Dread Presence |   Doom Blade          |Cyclopean Monolith
Puppet Master  |   Great Urgal Blade   |SoulFeed
               |   Frozen Hell         |Twist Sinews        

4x sacrifices impending death
1x Chosen Foul Monuments
1x Vizigheist 
1x Death Toll Bound Devil 

[crisp night]

ohhhhhh

[nova mason]

I mean this with much love for the subs

[tame pasture]

and like

[crisp night]

sacrifices are funny little guys (doomed)

[tame pasture]

the after combat assessment was

could of just had more sacrifices

and chosen

[glacial junco]

True

[tame pasture]

instead of vizigheist and bound devil

which would have people boxed in much sooner

[crisp night]

i can see why that would be very effective against carcass

[candid monolith]

Being a goon is fun

[tame pasture]

more than just carcass ngl

[serene sundial]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3068547358/

Wanted to post it here, I'm working on a TTS mod :)

[tame pasture]

i think this strat dunks on a bunch of factions

[crisp night]

i want to use gheist and focus more on a sort of assassination strategy with my comp

so hopefully that's still effective

moar walls is funny though

[tranquil mural]

also having puppet master was a crazy strong backup with the sacrifices

[tame pasture]

goregrinders, abhorrers & igorri kinda just get dunked on by this

[serene sundial]

Walls seriously hinder some houses.

[tiny fulcrum]

Goregrinders? Nah you take Furious Roar and you never get boxed in again

[shut hare]

dead souls does pretty good against abhorrers yeah, i feel the most important unit in that matchup is abhorrer's penitent

being able to remove doom is so important

[nova mason]

For sure

[tame pasture]

ngl I dont think that would help

you run out of soul faster than they spend to box in

[tiny fulcrum]

Roar ain't a soul ability

Just an ACT

[tame pasture]

oh even worse

💀

[tiny fulcrum]

No

[tame pasture]

you only get that once then

/ round

vs them getting to counter with a wall every turn

[tiny fulcrum]

Like, if someone starts boxing you in you just use it and reset any progress they've made

[serene sundial]

They still get to wall you in faster than you can reset their progress.

[tame pasture]

genuinely good in theory but in practice its not that easy to run out

[tiny fulcrum]

Plus it gives you speed tokens so subsequent uses move you 3 instead

[tacit cedar]

speed only affects MOVE

and step is explicitly not

[tame pasture]

tldr: wall strat kinda goofy atm

[tiny fulcrum]

Eh

[serene sundial]

And the more walls there the harder it gets to pull off all those MOVE in a straight line ACTs goregrinders have.

[thick sphinx]

If goregrinders kill enough of them to generate the soul to wall you in properly, I'd say that's job done

[tiny fulcrum]

Sure, they're not core to the faction though

[thick sphinx]

Since it's 1 soul to make a wall via the soul ability, and you only get one per round and then only after T1

[tiny fulcrum]

Like the whole reason Carcass gets demolished here is a combination of low movement and walls countering ranged

Goregrinders are the fastest faction in the game full stop

[thick sphinx]

By the time T1 is over the Goregrinders are almost certainly adjacent to half your units

[tiny fulcrum]

^

[thick sphinx]

T2 you get to make 1 wall +1 for each of your units the goregrinders kill, and if they're that worried about it then they're probably killing anything else that can make walls first

Though I'd probably be more focused on the stuff making weakness tokens

[tiny fulcrum]

Yeah that's the thing

The Grinders aren't gonna bother with Sacrifices

They just laser demolish everything else

[tame pasture]

ngl this is a white room scenario i dont actually believe would be reliable in practice

[crisp night]

i think the best way to settle this is to get into a gg v ds match and see how it pans out

[tame pasture]

i'll happily be proven wrong on this though

[thick sphinx]

I mean, maybe not, I certainly haven't tested it. I'd just be shocked if it does turn out that way

[tranquil mural]

yeah i feel like it has to be seen in practice. deadsouls is kinda ridiculous from my own use

with the boxing in and stalling

you can easily create somewhere between 2-6 walls withing 2 turns of the game starting atm

[tame pasture]

also i will note sacrifices generated 0 walls

if the rolls were different i could have been dunked on much sooner

[night hedge]

i keep em on me

[crisp night]

👏

fantastic

[night hedge]

naked steve and headless mike

[vague basalt]

GOREGRINDER

[umbral cipher]

I keep that thang on me (pulls out a miniature skeleton out from under my robe)

[crisp night]

you know one thing i'm sad about is that there isn't a thrash faction

i may fix this later

though im not gonna attempt homebrew until i've played several games

[umbral cipher]

what is thrash

[crisp night]

thrash metal

[umbral cipher]

haha sure would be silly if somebody was doing that huh ()

[crisp night]

the factions as it stands are not directly themed around their soundtracks except deadsouls comes quite close

wait are you

oh yeah

the scarecrows

how's that coming

[umbral cipher]

It's comin
I think I have some cool bones (hah) here
just need to dig into and define the units and what they Do

[vague basalt]

Can one play as a Goregrinder with just a horde of Warheads

[umbral cipher]

Yeah sure

[crisp night]

the fun part about building for thralls is that you get to spend all of your extra points on the necromancer to make them much buffer

and more versatile

i kind of want to figure out how to do a thrall-majority gargamox comp but i feel like that lends itself to catastrophe too easily

scum have armor but every faction has some way to deal non physical damage

and then they just pop

[umbral cipher]

I mean that's just true of thralls in general

[tiny fulcrum]

Yeah, Warheads are basically the one exception

[umbral cipher]

currently stuck on the Scion, the Harvestman
they've got a step and splash attack, a big scary AOE debuff, and need Something Else
But I haven't quite solidifed what the unit-to-unit wincon is

[crisp night]

i need to actually get a game set up i literally have everything plugged in to foundry i just need to make a map and shit

must not get distracted by staring at the pdf again

[umbral cipher]

It's just so cool!

[crisp night]

it is

[quasi bridge]

how are y'all getting it set up in foundry? just simple tokens and tracking stuff manually?

[crisp night]

uhhhhh there's a whole process for it

check pins

or just click here

[quasi bridge]

OH doi

I was looking but I couldn't figure out how to get at pins in a thread

found it danke

[uneven prawn]

i was the most hyped about abhorrers before release but now that i see abhorrers being popular here my contrarian brain wants me to shift my attention over towards other factions

i hate that about me

...all the factions are cool though so its not too bad

[crisp night]

i had something a little similar

i really was interested in igorri and carcass but all of my friends outside of this server are going to play carcass and igorri

and i want to avoid mirror matches

[uneven prawn]

i might just turn into a deadsouls kind of guy ngl

look at all that ward wow

[crisp night]

deadsouls is pretty popular as well

considering that it is incredibly good in many matchups (apparently)

[chrome plover]

Just gotta make one of each, yeah?

[tame pasture]

turns out blocking line of sight = good

[lethal trench]

It might just be me playing recklessly, but I found the round threshold stuff in Abhorrer a bit difficult to utilise so far

[tame pasture]

i defo think abhorror asks you to play really reserved

[tranquil mural]

i wanna go against every house atleast once just to see how strong deadsouls is overall

[shut hare]

i think abhorrer benefits from early on vitality generation so it can get into the later rounds safely with higher HP when many of its things start to trigger

[crisp night]

i think that carcass operators constantly have touhou music playing in their headset

[shut hare]

usually my deployment is something like this;

Turn 1 Inquisitor winch (step into adjacency with antipriest)
Turn 2 Antipriest Blessed Censer (odd stance = splash vitality)

so everyone save for antipriest has vitality by turn 3

[rich scarab]

quite funny to me that the Necro's just a big ol circle

[shut hare]

ya lol helps signifies who the important guy is

[serene sundial]

Evil necromancers get put in the important circle

[rich scarab]

Also with the holy body having a at an angle ring around it

[solid vapor]

let me post the tokens i made

as placeholders

lmao

[jaunty kayak]

mine just look like this at the moment

[solid vapor]

HAH

[crisp night]

oh my fucking god the ratmaa placeholder

[solid vapor]

pool legend

[serene sundial]

I love ratma :)

[random onyx]

Holy shit not ||Minnesota Fats, Pool Legend||

[candid monolith]

Oh hells you're right I need a name for my necromancer

[umbral cipher]

the two necros I've got sofar are Midnight Market (Carcass necro with arms for hire in every sense of the word) and Screech (goregrinder rockstar looking to hit it immortally big)

[opaque socket]

bit of a question for folks

if you attack someone

and the attack has an effect with like

a d6

do you count the attack d6 for it ?

or do you roll a seperate one

[patent steeple]

seperate

[short estuary]

I've only rolled separate

[arctic solar]

separate yeah

[opaque socket]

ah okay

[short estuary]

Not sure if it says explicitly raw

[patent steeple]

the effect die is distinctly seperate than attacking

[opaque socket]

damn we ruled it wrong with magnus then

lol

[short estuary]

Also I only roll 1 effect die if there are multiple options for different numbers

[patent steeple]

yep thats how it is

1 effect die

[solemn laurel]

made a dead souls guy profile if anyone wants to freely use him 👍 he puts the ghastly in maleghast

[uneven prawn]

i just realized that the ammo goblin has formation even though it has no attacks

what could it mean

getting +1d on a whole lot of nothing

[tacit cedar]

just wants to be included

[uneven prawn]

imagine making an abhorrer gameplan that revolves around the holy body and the carcass player says "i rolled a 6 on the deathmark from the barrelform"

[serene sundial]

So what genres of metal are the maleghast houses?

[serene sundial]

And it's not that low of a chance that they will do that!

[uneven prawn]

low risk high reward

worst case scenario you remove 2 vitality, which for the holy body might as well have been 2 damage

[vague elbow]

1. do you mind if I put this in my folder that I share with friends, and 2) with what name would you like me to credit you

[solemn laurel]

yeah for sure! u can just append it with my discord username (i never change it) or area_werewolf (my twitter)

[vague elbow]

big thank

[solemn laurel]

youre welcome! :)

idm this little guy going where the wind blows bc hes just a Guy

[pulsar lodge]

for thralls, when it says you can active 2 at once, does that mean you can move both at the same time as if you're moving one?

[patent steeple]

yeah basically u get 2 activations for the price of 1

actually

u have 1 go then the other

[serene sundial]

I think you can do 2 turns back to back if you're doing thralls.

[patent steeple]

is how i read it

yes

[serene sundial]

So one thrall > 2nd thrall > enemy turn

[patent steeple]

its not simultaneous

[crisp night]

it's only super specific for deadsouls

deadsouls is very specifically black metal

gargamox might also be one subgenre i actually just havent listened to those bands in their soundtrack

carcass is interesting because one of their songs isn't even strictly metal and another song is by babymetal, who i love, but is definitely different than a lot of metal music

[serene sundial]

I don't know a lot of metal so I was wondering what's the deal here.

[crisp night]

goregrinders is all death metal/deathcore

forgot about them

[serene sundial]

Mhm mhm

[vague elbow]

I want to homebrew a hozier house, he would fit the undeath theme really well

not really the metal part, but he vibes

[patent steeple]

idk any metal

[crisp night]

i need to make a nu metal faction more than a thrash one tbh

[patent steeple]

i just like little dudes

[gray crystal]

tungsten faction

my favorite metal

[vague elbow]

Hozier is alt rock. I dont really listen to metal either but I apreciate the aesthetic

[opaque socket]

I think its Alloy

😏

just kidding if any house is made of alloy metal its Igorri

[gray crystal]

Does anyone have any experience with how effective the turn 4+ effects are? Things like Doom and the abhorrers seem sort of win more

[opaque socket]

on account of being made of other things

[candid monolith]

I'll say it once and take my punishment when I feel like it: even though I like metal, a lot of the genres like black/death/etc metal sound too similar to me for me to identify genre

[opaque socket]

So i've had some experience with having doom applied to me

Doom is fine

the damage is basically a good way to have like, an end goal

[crisp night]

don't worry; as someone who listens to metal pretty much every day of the week

a lot of them are very similar

a lot of it comes down to origin and nuance

[serene sundial]

Dark country cowboy house, their Necro is THE UNDERTAKER.

[opaque socket]

Doom is less there because you NEED the damage and more because it can finish off people by round 4 anyway

[candid monolith]

I just know what chisels the crust off the dopamine button long enough to get a few squeezes in

[opaque socket]

I legit deterministically lost last time because I had 2 doom on my operator at round 3

there was no way for me to actually get it off from my operator

and no way to actually kill the other necromancer

[candid monolith]

Oof

[opaque socket]

it was fun I did bring it on myself

[crisp night]

deadsouls fun fact! You are afflicted by 5 stacks of Doom,

[candid monolith]

This does seem like a game where I'm less interested in winning and more in having a good time seeing which one of us dies

[gray crystal]

yeah, that's my takeaway too

it's just as much fun to just see your opponents strategy work

[candid monolith]

Besides, I get a six day nap

[opaque socket]

I don't have experience with Abhorrer but they seem like their goal isn't like, neccesarily to last that long as much as they can finish off a fight quickly if it lasts long enough

[candid monolith]

That's a win of its own right there

[tame pasture]

you understand my pain

the carcass suffering

[lethal trench]

damn, Carcass really has no token removal on the Operator

[tame pasture]

they dont have any like

in general

only egis can remove them from itself

[lethal trench]

only one I could see is the upgrade on EGIS yeah

[tacit cedar]

once above spite you can put it on bastion

[opaque socket]

Like for example for Abhorrer their hunter deals a lot of damage

the "ignore armor" bit is like

[gray crystal]

Carcass is definitely the strangest faction

[opaque socket]

icing on the cake

[lethal trench]

yeah Inquisitors are already good

[gray crystal]

Bad matchups/maps are crippling

[patent steeple]

yeah i had trouble getting to those round thresholds

when i played abhorrers

[crisp night]

we should give CARCASS a rambo unit with an LMG called the bonesaw and a walking fire ability

[opaque socket]

Like this

[real bane]

Speaking of Abhorrers, how's Miracle feel in practice? It reads kind of like Blood Fury but random, and I wonder if it works better in play.

[opaque socket]

this is already pretty good on its own before you get to the stance effects

Zealot is also nuts by default

[patent steeple]

miracle is a lot of fun

exorcist can buff miracle

[gray crystal]

Oh yeah absolutely. The only one which I think is just bad is the necromancer trait to gain 1 vigor every turn at round 4

[tame pasture]

miracle has a uh

[lethal trench]

Zealot is... interesting

[tame pasture]

funny

interaction

specifically in goregrinder

[opaque socket]

Look at this

[tame pasture]

they still die

so you get the points

[lethal trench]

I'm not sure what to think of them yet
I do think Smite is a big part of their strength

[opaque socket]

range 1 to 2 attack WITH a move or a push ?

AND move 4 ?

AND they get a vit for moving ?

[real bane]

They are horrors

[crisp night]

much like the zealot from vermintide 2; they look juiced as fuck

[cinder isle]

isn't that only if they double move?

[opaque socket]

They're pretty good imo even before you factor in smite

nah

[cinder isle]

i thought that's what the "again" part meant

[lethal trench]

the thing is that compared to a lot of other Horrors Zealots are pretty low damage unless you use Smite IMO

[opaque socket]

Oh

my bad

yeah

[lethal trench]

yes, or if you move again from Chain

[opaque socket]

its if they move again

[cinder isle]

yeah

[opaque socket]

which

yeah

chain counts

[cinder isle]

so not on standard MOVE

but still bonkers

because it has free movement in-kit

[tame pasture]

carcass just being the most honest house in game

[lethal trench]

though if Smite really is checked when you make the attack, I think you wanna Smite on even turns generally

[tame pasture]

yes i am biased

[real bane]

I'm just worried about it being random
so like, you have decent odds of going a combat and just not using your faction's unique mechanic at all

(and, again, Goregrinders get to Not Die for free)

[tacit cedar]

I mean you could also miss every attack

[cinder isle]

it should be check on-hit, yeah

[tacit cedar]

or never roll effect

[patent steeple]

u can buff it harder with antipriest

[cinder isle]

i think

[tacit cedar]

n goregrinders don't get soul when they enter rage

[serene sundial]

Wait, abhorers get souls before miracle?

[tame pasture]

yes

[serene sundial]

This... Big news.

I could have had so much soul.

[tame pasture]

only once though

[serene sundial]

Damm

[tame pasture]

no double soul

(thank god)

[patent steeple]

u get slain then come back at the end of the turn

if it procs

[serene sundial]

I was playing as if they get the soul only when miracle fails.

[tame pasture]

(i have enough soul abuse ptsd as is)

[patent steeple]

nope

u always get that soul

[real bane]

You make more than five attacks per combat, and vanishingly few targets are def 5+

[patent steeple]

just

[serene sundial]

Big news.

[patent steeple]

ur units stick around

[serene sundial]

I could have had so much souls.

[patent steeple]

so u get the soul with none of the downsides

[tame pasture]

counter point

goregrinder

[opaque socket]

Miracle isn't really like, something you bank on imo

getting a unit back is pretty sweet as it is

[patent steeple]

kinda unfortunate that abhorrers dont have a thrall unit tho

[tame pasture]

i really gotta make it clear that miracle is a downside in goregrinder

[serene sundial]

I just lost abhorrers vs goregrinders yesterday.

[patent steeple]

blood grinder

but yeah

[tame pasture]

too much necromancy words

but yes

[patent steeple]

im assuming thats what u mean?

[tame pasture]

blood grinder

so many grinders

[fiery orbit]

how does splash interact with tyrants if i target a tyrant with a splash attack does that make it bigger?

[tame pasture]

dont think so

you target 1 of their spaces

splash goes out from that area

wait no no

[crisp night]

that looks like the battlepass

[tame pasture]

i've been running it wrong

[opaque socket]

Nah splash is every unit adjacent

it does interact

[tame pasture]

yeah

mb

[opaque socket]

this is good AND bad

use it well

[serene sundial]

Idk what the battlepass is :)
I'm just vibing

[crisp night]

i hope that berserker runs up to that holy body and rips it in half

as much as i like abhorrers

[serene sundial]

Berserker died to multiple hazards.

[crisp night]

thinking about an angel figure getting its head get crushed by a giant with a buzzsaw arm is great

[serene sundial]

But my exorcist got ripped in half by two juiced up carnifexes.

Welp, it was my first game.

[crisp night]

well it aint pretty but it works

i'll make nicer maps for other matches

[tired bolt]

maleghastin rn gang

[crisp night]

i still have a lot of rust because i haven't touched foundry in a HOT while but who cares i will have fun

[crisp night]

deadsouls 💪

just seeing them makes me happy

[tired bolt]

the pate collector? word is it's demanding heads

what a world!

[crisp night]

holy body doesn't have a head do you think it'll accept the halo

[tired bolt]

yes

[languid lotus]

question: how much damage is a little or a lot. need some assistance determining

[crisp night]

i feel like anything above 2 is a lot but take this with an entire shaker of salt as i haven't played

[tiny fulcrum]

Anything above 2 is a lot

[patent steeple]

2 is biggy dmg

1 is average

but crumbles to armor

[serene sundial]

2 is good damage.

[patent steeple]

most stuff that isnt a thrall has 4 hp

[languid lotus]

noted, mainly trying to figure out just how far holy body's defenses go

[patent steeple]

so 2 dmg takes u to half health

[serene sundial]

Above 2 we're in big boy territory.

[tame pasture]

1 damage and then 1 damage again

[languid lotus]

cause it's got 3 hp but has 1) super armor and 2) high vitality generation

[serene sundial]

Holy body can take incredible punishment tbh

[tame pasture]

is the scariest damage

if you can apply vuln

or get strength

[patent steeple]

so super armor means any 1 dmg pings do nothing without strength tokens

2 dmg can be big but u have 6 vitality for a reason

[tiny fulcrum]

My current theory is you should legit just ignore a Holy Body if you can

It's incredibly durable

Igorii can deal with it well via Strigoi

[patent steeple]

hazard creation is just super strong

ive found

[tame pasture]

also yes

[languid lotus]

i hope the errata release makes the pdf searchable

[serene sundial]

Trade offer
You ignore the holy body
I make hazards under your feet :)

[tame pasture]

its why i hate holy bodies so much

• biased carcass player opinion

[tired bolt]

im gargamaxxing

[patent steeple]

tom mentioned it off hand for the errata doc

[tame pasture]

my day be fine and then boom

3 hazards under my tyrant

[tiny fulcrum]

Goregrinding your backline go brrrr

[tame pasture]

they explode

[candid monolith]

Goregrind tyrant says brrrr

[serene sundial]

I DID THAT TOO OMG

Hazards go brrr

[tame pasture]

me just looking at my tyrant like

damn

this guy is just wasting my action econ

[serene sundial]

The body of Chris sure is hazardous.

[tame pasture]

can tom let me spend 1 soul to pull a captain price on my characters

[steady tangle]

gonna play this game by myself

[languid lotus]

speaking of, are tyrants a must-take or?

[brittle otter]

Any issues with the little module encountered so far?

[tame pasture]

like

save my action econ

the old fashioned way

https://tenor.com/view/compartilhou-codmobile-gif-20291432

[serene sundial]

Imo they're not. Some are better than the others, but they don't seem to be necessary.

[tame pasture]

"you've served me well egis weapon"

"now stop eating up my turns"

obliterated

[tiny fulcrum]

Ngl I'm not sure if Tyrants taking damage from starting on multiple hazard tiles is intended

[tame pasture]

if not then remind me to poke tom about that

since there is no limiter in their wording atm

[serene sundial]

Yeah

You can just slap 4 spikes under a guy!

[patent steeple]

i ran it last night with my friend, no issues!

[granite karma]

thinking about kitbashing together some proxies to make and print maleghast minis (for personal use) if anyone has files they'd recommend (:

[brittle otter]

Awesome!

[tiny fulcrum]

It also says "starting a turn in a hazard space" deals 1 damage, so you can interpret the wording my way as well

No clear indication in either direction

[crisp night]

yeah everything clicked together quite well once i actually read the instructions correctly

[pale echo]

I'm taking Icon as precedent that terrain effects aren't supposed to stack like that

[tame pasture]

we kinda had the opposite logic on that lol

we thought that was excluded intentionally

[tame pasture]

real

[serene sundial]

Same here

[languid lotus]

kinda kneecaps the survivability of tyrants if so

[tiny fulcrum]

Exclusion doesn't indicate intent in this case imo

I'd ask Tom

[versed ravine]

most normal valid maleghast rules text

[serene sundial]

What's that?

[patent steeple]

mox populi

6 soul ability

[opaque socket]

alternate version

[serene sundial]

Woo

[crisp night]

god the plaguelord looks so funny

absolute shit eating grin

[pale echo]

the joker

[hexed coral]

They’re having a complete mental breakdown (too much gargamaxxing)

[versed ravine]

im usually not a DOT guy but gargamox make it look extremely fun

[harsh gorge]

i somehow won

im playing carcass

against fuckin derpghost

lmaooo

[hexed coral]

Carcass is having a time over there jeez

Congrats!

[versed ravine]

do thralls give double the souls per point

am i understanding that correctly

[versed ravine]

like, if i invest one point into two thrall units and they both die I now have 2 SOUL

[lethal trench]

effectively yes

[versed ravine]

okay awesome

[patent steeple]

the book even says theyre good soul generators

[opaque socket]

Gargamox got that game theory color scheme

[patent steeple]

my friend brought 4 points of thralls and got like 9 soul at one point

[tame pasture]

woe, slop content apon thee

theory #732 on how many bones you need to make a zombie

[tired bolt]

oh baybee im plaguing ohhhh baybeee ahhh the plague is coming

[patent steeple]

i need help

[tired bolt]

PLAGUE UPON YE

[patent steeple]

carcass or igorri

[thick sphinx]

This is in the errata doc, they only take damage from 1

[crisp night]

igorri

[real bane]

Kid named Infest (1 SOUL):

[tiny fulcrum]

Ah, there ya go @tame pasture

[hexed coral]

Garamox is the one team I’m having trouble sliding up proper comps with.

Goregrinders, I get

[tame pasture]

ah

[hexed coral]

Deadsouls I get

[tame pasture]

good

[fiery orbit]

if you attack a wall do you still roll an effect dice for example
if you use flesh whip on a wall from the homunculus do you still roll to make corpses?

[hexed coral]

That’s a good question!

[thick sphinx]

I think that specific example is 'yes, you would make corpses' but that it'll vary depending on whether the effect in question references units

E.G. Gargamox's infect can't jump to walls

Nor can they be given plague tokens

[fiery orbit]

whose starts 2nd round? the person who won the coinflip or the passing person?

[opaque socket]

you always alternate

as in, no matter the number of units

unless I guess you have lost a bunch

Player 1 > Player 2 > Player 1 > Player 2

this goes past round

Player 1 > Player 2 > [ROUND END] > Player 1

if possible you alternate

[tame pasture]

ngl the moment you can no longer alternate

someone is proabably about to lose

[south tartan]

Been a while since I've done any pixel art so I've decided to create a necromancer. This is Latifa and her black mass. #girl

[elfin ermine]

does cover involve diagonal walls?

does this strigoi have cover along the red line?

[south tartan]

no

[pale echo]

Cover is always along a horizontal

[tame pasture]

real question time though

[pale echo]

It will have cover against any foe further north than those two Xs

[tame pasture]

does the sniper have los here

[elfin ermine]

I'd say no

[tame pasture]

oh god the wall strats only get stronger

[elfin ermine]

I count that as an edge

[tame pasture]

ok i should've lost far earlier than round 3 then lol

half the attacks i did were illegal

[thick sphinx]

I think anyone playing thralls into Abhorrers will be taking multiple activations even at the end of round 1

[opaque socket]

gonna echo that you do not have LOS yeah

[tame pasture]

ok yeah wall gen is crazy good then

[opaque socket]

it sure is

[tame pasture]

like moreso than i've already been saying

[opaque socket]

good news tho magnus

sorry

gamb

[opaque socket]

oh you saw this

[tame pasture]

yep

though ngl

even if that gets nerfed

this is still crazy good

[hexed coral]

Walls are big

[opaque socket]

I've personally been saying, even if I only played like

once

[hexed coral]

which is why the Deadsouls truly are superior

[tame pasture]

cuz this exists

[opaque socket]

that it'd be cool if Deadsouls generated walls with 1 HP

[tame pasture]

1 SOUL, any turn

get dunked on

no los

[hexed coral]

Truly balanced in my favour

Therefore fair

[fiery orbit]

does wild mutation let you pick the same one multiple times or just one of each?

[tame pasture]

im 2.5 games in and like

100% no bias when i say this

[tame pasture]

carcass is the most honest house

[elfin ermine]

this thing?

I read it as choosing different tokens for each corpse, and doing that instead of rolling

or maybe its choose a token type per corpse and just getting them, hmm

[opaque socket]

I mean i'll have to see there's some pretty wild stuff you can do with carcass

[hexed coral]

I feel like Carcass is about as straightforward as a house with guns should be.

In that they’re big on shooting

[opaque socket]

for one soul you can reload after moving and acting

on your operator

[tame pasture]

i get that but like

that compared to some of the stuff other factions can do

its not really going to checkmate anyone

[opaque socket]

You can deal 3 damage on a graze haha

I think you absolutely can checkmate people

[tame pasture]

they should've just dodged

simple solution

[elfin ermine]

I feel like goregrinders is pretty honest

[tame pasture]

go play skirmishers

[opaque socket]

the house i'm playing is the most honest one

[tame pasture]

see

[opaque socket]

all the others ? they're way too strong

[tame pasture]

now you get it

tom should nerf everyone else

too dishonest

[opaque socket]

I think Tom should remove maleghast

its fine its cool we had our fun

[tame pasture]

the greatest trick was making us think maleghast even existed

[opaque socket]

we need to make it not turn into wargame faction talks, whatever the cost, its fine

[tame pasture]

as my first wargame

i have

no idea what those look like

but i can imagine

[opaque socket]

Well you have folks going like

"my faction is the most honest one"

[tame pasture]

i mean

they must be honest then

[tired bolt]

my faction is the least honest one

and it makes me proud

[opaque socket]

Picture how folks talk about fighting game characters and you're like

already mostly there

[tame pasture]

ah

ok

i got the full picture then

[thick sphinx]

Is it honest to be screaming nothing but obscenities 24/7?

[tired bolt]

my fighting game mains? also the least honest ones

[opaque socket]

"X is too busted, Y (the thing I play) is too weak"

[tame pasture]

everything my character does is fake

[keen ravine]

I'm the most honest and thus any faction I play is honest

[tame pasture]

real bedman? player

[hexed coral]

I’ve never played

[tame pasture]

if you fall for my traps you simply didn't read my xyz overhead double blackflip 50/50 mixup right

[umbral cipher]

Carcass and goregrinders are good fun

[hexed coral]

Thereby through virtue of being able to not actually have any opinions

Any faction I choose is the most honest

[umbral cipher]

Rip @harsh gorge's Deadsoul gang, necromancer just got focused and gunned to death

[hexed coral]

😔

[short estuary]

Same thing happened in a game I played yesterday

[languid lotus]

what does honesty mean in terms of factions

[short estuary]

Enemy necromancer ganked by my goon squad

[tame pasture]

if they do something to you

and you go

"thats bullshit"

its dishonest

thats the tldr of it

[umbral cipher]

Shooting the Necromancer turns out to just be a really good strat

[elfin ermine]

Str aoes are brutal good lord

round 2 necromancer taken 6 damage wew

[umbral cipher]

Str only applies per target in an AOE

[silver lotus]

The best way to play wargames and to play sideways fighting games is
-show up, pay your fees for the local tournament
-ask your opponent how the game works
-lose with the coolest looking faction or character
-cheer on whoever beat you first for the rest of the tournament.

[hexed coral]

I just want to test my comps so I toocan claim everything is bullshit

[tame pasture]

also like

[elfin ermine]

ya, Igorri can just make like 4

[tame pasture]

how did the deadsoul necro get dunked on so hard

[umbral cipher]

If I splash 1 and have 1 strength, I gotta choose who takes that extra damage

Ah haha

[tame pasture]

did they just have nobody in range 2

to bodyblock with

oh wait

my bad

[umbral cipher]

We forgot about bodyblocking

[tame pasture]

assumed everyone has puppet master

[hexed coral]

Ohh

[umbral cipher]

But also they tried to nope off to a corner

[hexed coral]

Puppet master slaps

[umbral cipher]

And just got Gunwight'd

[short estuary]

Remember the basics of CQC protecting your necromancer

[harsh gorge]

[tame pasture]

puppet master made me go 'well thats bullshit' ~3 times so its clearly dishonest

[thick sphinx]

This one has found enlightenment

[languid lotus]

what's puppet master

[tame pasture]

i should be able to focus fire your necromancer

[umbral cipher]

Karen we must remember bodyblocking is a thing next time lmao

[short estuary]

Good thing this is a skirmish game so I can ethically work in the salt mines

[languid lotus]

okay but where is it

[tame pasture]

deadsoul

[harsh gorge]

yea

[tame pasture]

optional necromancer trait

imo probably the strongest

lets you spread out far easier

much harder to get caught out

[nova mason]

tbh im happy about how toxic, heh, deadsouls and gargamox are

here to give my enemy a bad time

[harsh gorge]

hahhaha yeah

theyre FUN

too bad i misplayed HARD

but

theyre sick

[hexed coral]

Welcome to Wall Palace, where we build em, you can’t break them.

Want a house on command? You got it

Want to never leave that house? You got it

[nova mason]

i have now pissed all over your house and set it on fire

[tame pasture]

2v2 but its just deadsouls & gargamox against you

[nova mason]

also satan is outside

[tame pasture]

and one of them brought a holy body

[languid lotus]

deadsouls comp flavored as horus kobolds

[umbral cipher]

And from my Goregrinder game:

They really hate armour
Beserker is fucking spooky
Warheads having that extra burst of durability is some nuts value

[tame pasture]

and you're like

already about to leave the game

and its only round 3

[hexed coral]

That’s okay, I owe him a beer anyhow

[short estuary]

Gargamox slime only

[tame pasture]

you've been crying for the entire game

[prime portal]

wrestling in the Gargamox slime

[tame pasture]

just looking at the board state

at the start of round 2

you are in utter mental shock

[nova mason]

what if we kissed in the gargamox piss pit lol

[short estuary]

No the unit Slime

[opaque socket]

Gamb you're just making a situation to be upset at now

[thick sphinx]

Why Berserker spooky? I was seriously considering not running one

[tame pasture]

im just jokin

[hexed coral]

Now that’s pin worthy

[willow flame]

Igorri have inspired me to create in a way I have not done in awhile. Gonna give her a monster arm and a hanging belt with spooky vials

[short estuary]

You can kiss my Rotten in the piss pit

[tame pasture]

you wake up in a cold sweat

and realise it was just a nightmare

[nova mason]

dont threaten me with a good time

[tame pasture]

deadsoul + gargamox wasn't real

maleghast wasn't real

you take a sigh of relief

go and open your blinds in the morning

and-

[prime portal]

Anime Pomni Face

[keen ravine]

I will also say, I'm glad that there's also factions with aesthetics not rooted in punk

[nova mason]

me irl prepping for a round as gargamox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9OD8jmxGBc&ab_channel=BudgetLifter

[halcyon wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/green-slime-slimed-slime-headshot-green-gif-13776168

[keen ravine]

I love the Igorri necro's techwear look?

[halcyon wharf]

Gargamaxxing

[keen ravine]

Wizards SHOULD be wearing fresh as hell kicks

[opaque socket]

Igorri vibes be like

[umbral cipher]

Oh, a clarification question that came up:
Do attacks with (4+) or (5+) bonuses that do not state effect use an effect dice, or do they trigger off the attack roll?

[nova mason]

the other houses hate me for being on my gargamax grindset

[hexed coral]

Igorri is styling hard

[languid lotus]

do we have any sense of what's overpowered and what's underpowered?

[opaque socket]

https://tenor.com/view/cybergoth-dance-party-deutschland-goth-rave-gif-19376446

[nova mason]

tbh thats deadsouls when no ones looking imo

[tame pasture]

tom has actively confirmed that deadsoul wall strats are getting nerfed

[keen ravine]

I guess it's not techwear, but it's got a lady in a stylish jacket and I'm here for that more than the deadsouls or w/e

[tame pasture]

too many walls

[thick sphinx]

Abbadon will be doing a small balance patch over the weekend/next week

[hexed coral]

Showing up to the Gargamaxx club with my Deadsouls skeleton sword and get my ass laughed out of there for being a “weenie skeleton boy”

[willow flame]

Yeah something just made a dramatic pose feel right for an igorri necromancer

[nova mason]

like they absolutely are holding wack ass fucking electric goth raves

[umbral cipher]

Igorri does got some sick fit

[short estuary]

My controversial opinion is igorri being able to constantly have vitality is extremely annoying

[opaque socket]

Im gonna doubt that, you usually hate ladies in stylish clothes kojima

[short estuary]

I'm not sure it's overpowered per se

[halcyon wharf]

Underpowered: my honest hardworking squad
Overpowered: your scrubby freelow lads

[tame pasture]

if you think thats bad

[umbral cipher]

Armour/vitality is a big pain

[tame pasture]

you're going to hate the holy body

[umbral cipher]

But it's workaroundable

[short estuary]

I just had a hard time responding to it with my Gargamox squad

[nova mason]

ngl imo deadsouls and gargamax are like the only house the other gets along with imo

[short estuary]

No 2 damage attacks and very little str gen

[opaque socket]

the truth is like

we don't much

tbh

[nova mason]

like gargamax gives the deadsouls the shit only they and deadsouls can smoke

[opaque socket]

game's been out for like

2 days

[tame pasture]

no real meta

just vibes

[hexed coral]

That is actually fair.