MAGNAGOTHICA MALEGHAST

[lethal trench]

It's in the necromancer rules somewhere

[patent steeple]

so it ended up not mattering

[tiny fulcrum]

Very hard to put down

[patent steeple]

i most likely missed it

[crisp night]

how

they look great on paper

[arctic solar]

warheads look awesome

[lethal trench]

Warheads seem great

[crisp night]

all of the thralls look good on paper

which is nice

[arctic solar]

'what if a thrall but it had 3 effective hp'

[lethal trench]

Just need some Strength to punch through armor

[patent steeple]

anyways

looks very nice

[tiny fulcrum]

yeah, which you get off Blood Rage

[patent steeple]

cant wait to play more

usually my first instinct with homebrew is

[arctic solar]

armor is a goregrinder issue in general imo
they don't have as much Strength as you'd think

[languid lotus]

plus painwheels, they're like warheads but higher-concentration

[patent steeple]

"LE RANDOM MECHANIC"

[crisp night]

i think the weakest thrall to me is sacrifice but that might just be me pre-coping as a deadsouls player so i can make excuses later

[patent steeple]

but thats already a core gameplay mechanic

this game is great

[lethal trench]

But Goregrinders in general kinda look like they tear apart anything that doesn't have armor

So much repeated pings

[arctic solar]

oh for sure

but when the armor arrives you need to stop and think for a bit

[silent sluice]

House: Goregrinder | Heresy: -
Malice: Loathing (4) | Unit Limit: 4

[Units]
3x2 Warhead
2x  Berserker

[Necromancer]
Bonus Trait:  + Choose One More

[ACT Upgrades]


[SOUL Upgrades]

like this?

[tiny fulcrum]

This is why I think Painwheels are a lynchpin unit for them

[arctic solar]

agree

[tiny fulcrum]

Since Painwheels can spend Speed as Strength

[arctic solar]

ignite also probably does work

[patent steeple]

yeah, i wonder if it would look nice if it was

1 x2 Warhead

?

[tiny fulcrum]

Yeah leaning heavily on Ignite is a good idea

It's incredibly cheap and very impactful

[patent steeple]

if not, thats completely fine

[crisp night]

i’m trying to think if i’ve seen someone post a game in here that didn’t have a tyrant on both sides (mox excluded)
they’re kind of useful those big fellas aren’t they

[lethal trench]

Pretty much all the Tyrants seem really good

[tiny fulcrum]

I think a good Goregrinder team is like
Warheads
2x Painwheel
Berserker
Carnifex or Pain Ghoul

[patent steeple]

i didnt run a tyrant in my game

but my enemy was mox

[crisp night]

what faction were you

ab?

[patent steeple]

yep

[crisp night]

holy body is sad it was left out

[patent steeple]

ran double inquisitors

instead

[lethal trench]

Holy Body is nuts IMO

[silent sluice]

I think I like it better when they're all lined up, sorry

[patent steeple]

all good!

[languid lotus]

i am still thrown by no miracle on holy body

[lethal trench]

It's a huge wall, great for blocking for your necro

[arctic solar]

I do think it would be very funny to build around Apoplexy on Warlords

[patent steeple]

i think the 1x2 is still very nice

[thick sphinx]

Hmmmm, can you choose to pull someone less than the maximum distance?

[crisp night]

it sure seems that way yeah. tanky, lot of ways to utilize its resource, and it’s a goddamn SAM turret to boot

[languid lotus]

the damage reduction there seems like it only does so much

[tiny fulcrum]

Apoplexy is very funny but the real sauce seems like Furious Roar to me

[lethal trench]

Bolides and Indignation are both extremely long ranged and fairly reliable damage

[arctic solar]

Furious Roar is insane

[lethal trench]

And you can just park the Body next to your necro and have it body block all hits

[crisp night]

yeah

i’m excited to use bound devil in gameplay and see how it pans out

[thick sphinx]

Devil Impact memes are where it's at

[crisp night]

i really want it to be good

i think it will be

[silent sluice]

take a look at it, do you think that looks good? #1164643959721693184 message

[tiny fulcrum]

If you play into Deadsouls just slam Furious Roar every turn and feast

[crisp night]

anything wih that much mobility is useful

i should make a nu metal homebrew faction that are all cyborgs

like, sci fi cyborgs instead of goregrinder dieselpunk cyborgs

[lethal trench]

Very interested to see how upgrades are also gonna shake things up
I played both games on Spite so far

[crisp night]

does uploading your brain into a machine body after death count as necromancy

[arctic solar]

my personal dream is on the Operator
Devil Bullet into S.T.G

[lethal trench]

It's scary

[crisp night]

which one is devil bullet

i’m assuming it’s devil damage of some sort

[lethal trench]

Act reload, with a bunch of bonuses

[arctic solar]

including: your next attack triggers headshot effects

[lethal trench]

Including being a guaranteed headshot

[crisp night]

oh god

[arctic solar]

(also, 'ignores armor and ward')

[crisp night]

operator seems juiced

[arctic solar]

one day, though
one day I will delete target necromancer

[lethal trench]

It has some nasty stuff for sure

[crisp night]

it also has the best necromancer portrait

as much as i love deadsouls the carcass aesthetic is so much more my thing

tacticool bone devils

[lethal trench]

I love tacticool skeletons

[hexed coral]

Operator seems nuts

[hexed coral]

^^ if only we had some more portraits and such

Then we could slap them together

[crisp night]

chirurgeon is the funniest necromancer purely because of final form

[patent steeple]

yep looks fine to me

[lethal trench]

Final Form is very funny

[crisp night]

i can imagine very few cases where you’d want to use it

but that makes it funnier

[patent steeple]

im tempted to play igorri instead of carcass next

[lethal trench]

Btw, do Igorri have any easy ways to give Vitality?

[silent sluice]

It should be updated now (hopefully didn't break anything). You'll have to make a new copy of the sheet.

[lethal trench]

Mainly thinking of the Homonculus

[crisp night]

igorri and carcass both have my favorite music but i don’t want to play em because all of my friends already are

such is life

[arctic solar]

chop doc's marriage

[crisp night]

the moment i saw that tom put fucking dorohedoro down on carcass my eyes bulged out of my head

[arctic solar]

or, you know, sculpt flesh

[crisp night]

and jinjer for igorri

[tiny fulcrum]

Marriage is 100% a Fear and Hunger reference right

It's way too on the nose

[lethal trench]

I'm sure of it

[thick sphinx]

Had not heard of Dorohedoro before this, but I dig it

[crisp night]

igorrr is a great artist

[lethal trench]

I feel like the Homonculus needs Vitality ASAP, or it just goes down very quickly

[crisp night]

and dorohedoro is a fantastic manga

[languid lotus]

i've read enough of the wiki to say that yeah most likely

[crisp night]

fun fact the artist of the dorohedoro manga commissioned a bunch of songs for a playlist to listen to while reading said manga which is where that song is from

[tiny fulcrum]

Yeah, once you do it's so freakishly hard to kill though

[crisp night]

especially with the armor upgrade

[arctic solar]

you can always T1 sculpt flesh too

[patent steeple]

igorri seems insane in the right hands

[crisp night]

so does every faction (but i know what you mean)

[lethal trench]

I think saccing a Stitch to Marriage is just good

[patent steeple]

well just like

high skill ceiling tier

ya know

[crisp night]

yeah

[lethal trench]

Also gets you two corpses for a spare parts act

Like powering up Lycan

[arctic solar]

homun also has 3+ defense which I think is high for a tyrant, too

[lethal trench]

Oh does it?

[tiny fulcrum]

Oh huh

[patent steeple]

yeah tyrants are usually like 2+

[lethal trench]

Interesting
Yeah most of the others are 2+

[tiny fulcrum]

I think they all are except this guy

[arctic solar]

it's not a lot but it's nice with cover

also: the big use of homunculus imo is with the sample genome SOUL ability

[patent steeple]

sample genome is so cool

[languid lotus]

sample genome is sick, probably why the significant soul cost

[lethal trench]

What's that one do again?

[patent steeple]

you copy tokens and give them to another unit iirc

[languid lotus]

copy and paste positive tokens between your units

[tiny fulcrum]

Black Mass: Goregrinders

Necromancer: Warlord
Trait - Nerve Twitch
ACT Ability - Furious Roar
SOUL Ability - Blood Boil

2x Warheads
2x Painwheel
Carnifex
Berserker```

all out carnage baby

hard dive da map

[patent steeple]

deranged idea for a homebrew faction: caster faction that rolls an effect die to determine in how many turns an effect will go off

[languid lotus]

sidenote is it just me or does 4 slots seem a bit small

[patent steeple]

4 slots for a 2v2 is pretty good

[tiny fulcrum]

I think it needs to be that small by virtue of the maps

[patent steeple]

i think

when i played with 5 slots in a 1v1 it seemed perfect

[tiny fulcrum]

12 units in the regular 8x8 felt crowded

in a good way

[thick sphinx]

There is not enough love for Painghouls around here

[patent steeple]

oh yeah my friend brought like...10 units (including necro)

and it was insane

[languid lotus]

5 slots feels right, 4 not so much

[patent steeple]

it was 4x2 scum and 1 host

[tiny fulcrum]

Pain Ghouls are cool, I just want to try sheer gormless aggression first

[vague elbow]

you could always convince your opponents to take one more

[patent steeple]

well with 4 players thats like 16 units on the map

[thick sphinx]

I genuinely think Cauterize is going to wind up being an extremely important part of the Goregrinder kit in certain matchups

[patent steeple]

so question

[thick sphinx]

Plus Pain Frenzy-ing your wheels

[silent sluice]

16+4 bc Necros

[patent steeple]

how important are match ups as like

an element of play

in usual skirmish games

[thick sphinx]

Depends on the game, I think

[patent steeple]

kill team then (this is the first skirmish game that popped into my head)

[thick sphinx]

Can't speak to kill team, haven't played it myself. Sorry

[patent steeple]

@timber onyx i come asking about skirmish games

(if ur up)

[timber onyx]

i am

matchups generally matter, though less than in fighting games

it also varies between skirmish games

kill team has more limited ways to compose your force than say, a points based game

and thus matchup matters a lot more

cause you have less choices in listbuilding

[patent steeple]

ah fair!

[timber onyx]

but yeah sometimes your faction will just not have tools to deal with another factions tools

any asymmetric game will have this

[patent steeple]

yeah thats sorta how i felt with abhorrers vs mox

[thick sphinx]

Seems like it'll be possible to lose in the list-building phase, but right now my gut feeling is that that's a weakness/over-specialization of your own list rather than a bad faction matchup

Not to say some matchups won't be more or less uphill than others

[patent steeple]

guess it depends on how group games are set up?

[timber onyx]

list is def going to be more of an element in a fight

than faction

but faction informs list

[thick sphinx]

And multi-player throws everything in a blender and hits frapee

[patent steeple]

i could imagine a sorta pick meta being established for maleghast lol

dunno how it is in other skirmish games

[timber onyx]

im very curious what listbuilding rules will be decided by community

[silent sluice]

In what sense?

[timber onyx]

in many skirmish game tournaments you know what missions you are going to face and thus you build for mission

but maleghast is pure annihilation

which means counterpicking is a big deal

[thick sphinx]

There are objective-based missions

[timber onyx]

ah, missed that

havent given a deep dive

[patent steeple]

yeah

theres like

[timber onyx]

but even still, i think its interesting

[patent steeple]

blood grinder

which is pt based elimination

but more unique modes too

[timber onyx]

anyways whatever people decide is fun is gonna be neat

come in with a list built or build on the fly

[thick sphinx]

I'm looking forward to trying to set up a longer narrative campaign myself

Possibly including randomized upgrades for maximum weirdness

[patent steeple]

how do u do those

[thick sphinx]

Tom's mentioned some future plans that would be incredibly useful for that

[arctic solar]

im imagining a roguelike mode where you pick up random pre-upgraded units from factions as you go

so you roll an Inquisitor with explosive bolts

and you can put That One Unit into your list
unlimited heresy

[thick sphinx]

Narrative campaign? Slowly escalating drip of dark power /upgrades, possibly including unit changes or other bonus factors

Probably wouldn't go with adding units, since the unit count is static no matter what malice level you're playing at

[patent steeple]

oh i just mean like

how to frame it

cuz its pvp

[thick sphinx]

I've seen it done with Warhammer in the past as rival factions pursuing some macguffin / chasing demonhood / etc.

[arctic solar]

well, you know, they made this variant of this wargame called Chainmail-

[silent sluice]

Apparently I put a couple wrong SOUL values for Abhorrer and Igorri but it's fixed now

[tiny fulcrum]

Had a thought while I was in the shower RE: Goregrinders into armour

[silent sluice]

sleep time

[crisp night]

sleep good

i should be asleep but i want to keep thinking about maleghast instead

[tiny fulcrum]

I think the thing to remember is A) they're the fastest faction in the whole game and B) no matter what the faction is, pretty much every lynchpin unit they have lacks damage reduction

Pentients and the Holy Body are beefy as hell but you can also zoop directly past them and explode the Inquisitors in the back

Or the Zealots, or the Antipriest etc

[languid lotus]

what is the current understanding of the build meta, by the way? like, what must-dos, what never-dos, etc

[craggy iron]

it's been out for like a day idk if there is one

[tiny fulcrum]

I haven't played many games but it feels way too early to say anything

[patent steeple]

very hard to tell rn

my goal rn is to play it with all my friend groups

see what happens

[languid lotus]

well, what's The Strat for building necromancers and units of the various houses?

[tiny fulcrum]

Standard war game rules apply, go in having a game plan or at least knowing what your game plan can be

[languid lotus]

i have never played a wargame in my life

what i mean is to say is that i need some more specific ropes to be shown

[tiny fulcrum]

Well, who are you thinking of playing?

Specific ropes need specific details

[languid lotus]

might try out goregrinders soon?

[crisp night]

well i’m off to bed. hopefully tomorrow i’ll be able to get things set up and start playing

i’ll leave you all with this very stupid image i made yesterday

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/368016039549861889/1169137071374467102/image.png?ex=65544ebf&is=6541d9bf&hm=4c5c421a1d0e1055f433c447912a75ba591bfa32ed8240cb49d7ceda5b419127&

[tiny fulcrum]

Okay, so for Goregrinders, you wanna look at em and put together what the faction is good at - the summary tells a tale but it's not the whole picture

Thankfully they're very simple overall - aggressive melee is right, they're extremely fast with many units getting a "Move again in a line, with damage" ACT, and getting a lot of speed tokens

So they're very good at hunting down enemy units, even if there's body blockers in the way

Their damage is almost all in small pings, so they're very good at leveraging multiple strength tokens to shred units without damage reduction

On the other hand, they need those tokens to bust through armour

[hexed coral]

Excellent, beautiful.

[woven basalt]

Only painwheel all else is weakness praise be our bony boys

[patent steeple]

tfw cant take infinite painwheels

lol my friend was like

i gotta play goregrinders next, theyre the chainsaw man faction

[woven basalt]

Using heresy to give all my necromancers a painwheel honor guard

[tiny fulcrum]

So with all that on the table you basically have a level 1 gameplan of "dive in and focus the enemy's unarmoured units, build strength tokens to fight the armoured units"

[languid lotus]

i do not plan to read chainsaw man, reason is to try to minimize any more brainscorching

[woven basalt]

Memes aside I am very much digging Igorri mechanically which I was not expecting

I like tokens

And combining guys

[languid lotus]

igorri i want to look at in more detail but i'm not actually sure what their gameplan entails

[patent steeple]

they can become anything

[languid lotus]

yeah sure says so but what does that mean in mechanics

[woven basalt]

They are like the boyscouts

Need a guy to be a tank for a sec? Give em a vitality and a bunch of mutations

[patent steeple]

mutate allows their tokens to stay longer

[woven basalt]

Or stack a bunch of buffs and mutations on one guy

Also they can yoink tokens off of enemies which seems very funny

[patent steeple]

so what they do is get the right tools for the job with whatever tokens they need

then have them stick around with mutate tokens

[woven basalt]

Destabilizes your genome so I can kill you better

[patent steeple]

experimental surgery is also very effective

[terse depot]

Deadsouls look weird and I dig the aesthetic

[woven basalt]

Also they seem to do the most with corpses

[patent steeple]

deadsouls look very strong rn

[woven basalt]

Deadsouls seem like the most well rounded

[terse depot]

They look pretty technical compared to CARCASS or the Goregrinders, but I see a lot of curses, and a lot of ganking people from behind cover, so...I'ma give em a go

[woven basalt]

Doom seems like a pretty potent ability now that I'm thinking about it

[thick sphinx]

Definitely seems like it can be

Deadsouls have lots of good stuff for getting in your opponent's head

At the cost of folding pretty fast to physical damage

[woven basalt]

Just dance around walls so they can't retaliate I guess

[thick sphinx]

Just remember that walls can be blown up

2hp is not a ton

[woven basalt]

True

Also lotsa tyrants seem to hate walls

[thick sphinx]

Otherwise it'd be tough for them to move around the board

[woven basalt]

I'm thinking you could run a blades in the dark game without much modification using Anzenmezzeron as a setting

Or somehow weave the maleghast rules and bitd rules together

[craggy iron]

just a sketch, but

[real bane]

Gargamox/Abhorrers gang

[patent steeple]

thinking about if a abhorrer/carcass comp is possible

[eager berry]

Played a game earlier where we got multiple rules wrong but! it was tons of fun. Played Abhorrers versus Goregrinders and was fighting for my fucking life the entire time

[patent steeple]

i also just like the idea of priest operators

[eager berry]

Two lucky misses against my Exorcist was all that saved me

[elfin ermine]

I just gave my Abhorrer necromancer a gun anyway

Starmetal Shurikens Shrapnel

[eager berry]

Hehehe

[willow flame]

Finally got to going through the factions and I'm thinking I might dig the Igorri. They sound versatile

[patent steeple]

igorri looks fucking sick

[elfin ermine]

I'd hope not

surely they're better doctors than that

[real bane]

Really gotta get the game one of these days

But work is what it is rn

[willow flame]

It's first-hand observation. I mean, they're necromancers in the city where death's broken, what's the worst that could happen?

[patent steeple]

graze seems to make 1 dmg attacks pretty strong, since u lose no effective damage

how true has this been in practice?

[languid lotus]

my understanding is that with 1-way attacks it's effectively a question of auxiliary effects you're rolling for, e.g. gunwight's ol45 being a roll for ignoring armor and possibly dealing vuln

[patent steeple]

yeah that was my read too

2 dmg attacks miss out on that dmg tho

[tiny fulcrum]

Right, but you get double the value on hit

[patent steeple]

yeah super true

im not saying it aint worth, just an interesting design space

i had a couple 3d attacks in my game

got pretty unlucky

have to keep reminding myself i didnt have headshot

lol

[primal nest]

mox gaming

[woven basalt]

Gloopy dudes

[primal nest]

Grinders Friend struggled a bit with this matchup but I think she did well

Armor is fuckin nasty

[woven basalt]

Mox do seem quite tanky

[languid lotus]

gamingmox

[primal nest]

Well atleast against grinders

Abhorrers kicked my ass earlier

Damn you magic dmg

[tiny fulcrum]

The Slimes?

[primal nest]

Yep

No where is safe from turn 1 holy body

Oh wait Nono I mean abhorrers

[tiny fulcrum]

oh lmao

Yeah its a menace

[primal nest]

6 range pain to my funny corpse explosion set up

[tiny fulcrum]

Corpse explosion?

[primal nest]

The act ability

[tiny fulcrum]

Ah okay

Yeah Blood Boil is super good

I think you save it for a Berserker, probably?

Since its easily the highest value unit you can slap it on

[primal nest]

Important note

I’m a mox player

[tiny fulcrum]

Oh you said grinders earlier

Confused me

[primal nest]

Ye no my friend plays grinders

[prime portal]

Still thinking of OCs

Current ideas are:
A literal Robot for Goregrinders
An Igorri who used their fleshwarping abilities to become a furry
Also a furry but their a mercenary in CARCASS

[dense stratus]

Goregrinder necromancer that's just Gritty

[prime portal]

The secret has been revealed: Anzenmezzeron is just Philadelphia

[real bane]

Can a Painwheel use two Speed tokens both normally and as Strength in the same turn?

[tiny fulcrum]

Sure can

[real bane]

neato

[rocky radish]

the same 2 speed tokens?

[tiny fulcrum]

Nah you spend one as speed and one as strength

Ohhh

[tiny fulcrum]

I got this wrong, sorry

[rocky radish]

Oh! Okay, that clears it up

[tiny fulcrum]

See this for what I meant

Yeah mb on that

[rocky radish]

Was confused, but I learned something

So, thanks!

[rocky radish]

I'm the grinders friend

[tiny fulcrum]

[charred glacier]

Hey folkls, designing a setup for Owlbear Rodeo, what do folks think?

[brittle otter]

Awesome!

[charred glacier]

I am trying out Strength/Weak, Vitality/Vuln, and Slow/Speed as a single counter on the upper left of the model

Since they counter eachother out it seems a good way to save space

I like the healthbars, but they feel like they are taking up a lot of the token's area and we kinda loost a lot of the art on non-tyrant characters

What do folks think? is it more important to have healthbars or would it be better with just a single number for health at the bottom?

[bleak folio]

i mean its more or else an aesthetic question

i like the healthbars personally, but if u wanna see the token art more, then yea id drop em

[brittle otter]

I would at least make it visible on hover

Information like health and statuses need to be open

[charred glacier]

I tried to communicate all of it as quick as possible

but with minimum available visual noise

[primal nest]

Question

Does vit go before armor?

[bleak folio]

dont think the book says anythin

[rich scarab]

I'd say armor goes first because it reduces damage by one

And vitality is done at the stage you're taking damage

[primal nest]

I do hope it’s the case cuz it makes mox/abhorrers match a lot less iffy

But maybe I gotta play it more

[rich scarab]

I think the questions more, does taking 0 damage count as taking damage

[hexed horizon]

no

you didn't take damage

[bleak folio]

i agree with this but on the principle of book organization more than anythin else

(armor always gets mentioned first before vitality)

[charred glacier]

Y'all, is it telling me I get a maximum of 1 soul per unit death (even if the unit gets ressurected, a second death of the same unit won't provide more soul), or does this mean something else?

[hexed horizon]

Ya, if it comes back (Miracle for example), then dies again, you don't get another SOUL

[open vessel]

Does the order matter? If you have armor and vitality then you take -2 damage, doesn't seem to make a difference which -1 damage you apply first

[primal nest]

Well it would strip the vit

[bleak folio]

yea i was assumin its for savin the vit

[open vessel]

Then it that case it makes sense for the armor to go first

[primal nest]

Ye

[open vessel]

Kinda on the same topic, what's the best strat for taking out a God Body? Super armor and 6 vitality seems really tough to chew through

[rich scarab]

bring something with token purge probably

[primal nest]

Also ye

[night hedge]

GOREGRINDERS CAMPEÃOS DEL MUNDO

[prime portal]

Goregrinders are silly lads

[night hedge]

the phrasing is the same as the effects on the goregrinders units, so i think it’s multiple 1s

[prime portal]

I gotta make my Robot OC more Goregrindercore now

[night hedge]

i have figured out optimal strat

3x2 warheads
1x barrelform
1x warlord with devil impact

hard focus enemy necromancer

[night hedge]

also working on a homebrew house, the main mechanic being they pass parcels between themselves which can be opened and turned into tokens

the idea being you have a limited amount of tokens but you get to distribute them as needed quickly, beyond that may also add some hot potato like mechanics

[hexed coral]

The streets below Skin Town were usually a bustling place of activity. Skinners and traders alike found the atmosphere conducive to their trade. Now, however it sat empty. Quiet as the surface beyond. For a comparison to the graves here would render the common idiom useless. Chattering skulls and threshing teeth made for merry companions as two warhosts met each other in the upturned carts and splattered meat. A fine canvass for the battle to come. 

On one side, the Abhorrers. Silent priests and furious warriors of the militant One Hundred and Seventh Anointed Procession of Swords, lead by Silo of Many Mercies. They had come here on the orders of the High Ordained to destroy the market and recover precious flesh untainted by death. Their forces consisted of the Friars of Joyous Suffering, Antipriests of the former One Hundred and Sixth Procession. Last survivors rendered mute by their encounter with a devil beyond the pale. Bloodless Immaculates. Penitent sufferers who drew their strength for their proximity to Silos. Who they saw as the newest incarnation of the apostate exorcist once called Dictate. An inquisitor of the former parish of Hecate. Who lost his place in the order once and resolved to never lose it again. Carving furious lines of torment across his body in repentance for the lives lost. ```

On the other, the Goregrinders. Local protectors of the Skin Town and its markets led by the upstart warlord Lord Magnimonious Nitrous. They had heard the calls of their Corpse-Piler they had rallied around Nitrous and partook of his unique brand of augmentation. Fusing themselves with his noxious blood-machinery. There were swarms of Chatters, the warheads fused from Nitrous' own blood and bone. Emerging from his massive frame like bloated ticks, chewing at the slowly burning fuses of their detonation codes. Their older, more eager cousins the NOS-Heads willingly strapped themselves to their pain-wheels. Eager for their chance to rend and tear the holy order in their midst and supported by the Oil In My Veins cult, a group of Pain Ghouls who had followed Lord Magnimonious after his brief feud with a man named Nitrous. Who so upset him as to make Magnimonious take his name. After ripping him to pieces, of course.

the HANGED KING, bound devil. Twisting and squirming. Always seeming so close to escape, yet never managing. This was the BEHEADER's monstrous ace in the hole. The remmants of an old friend made real once more. 

Now, as the market became filled with the eager anticipatory chatter of foes about to clash, their leaders stood in deep silence. 
Only one would walk away. ```

War report!

also, I have three necromancers and their respective black masses now

Silo of Many Mercies, an Abhorrer priest dedicated to finding the yet to be reborn pieces of his personal saint.
Lord Magnimonious Nitrous, a speedfreak warlord with a penchant for violence and a paternalistic streak for his hometown of Skin Town.
and
The BEHEADER, a legendary swordsman who is dedicated to demonstrating a perfect killing technique once and only once.

[graceful crescent]

I like that this game is very playable on the tabletop, even if it was designed around VTT play.

I am now also tempted by the idea of designing a physical gameboard with customizable tiles for 3D printing.

[naive glacier]

i eventually will do a pack of grayscale printable unit cards w space for tokens

you can just run off on a printer

i am gonna do a typo pass this weekend

[hexed horizon]

So am I just wasting time here?

[naive glacier]

it won't be that many things

[steady tangle]

i bought the funny bones game for devil dollars

[hexed horizon]

Quick clarification about the Operator's Akimbo attack, that makes an attack roll and a seperate effect roll, yeah?

[night hedge]

home bru

Special Mechanic:
Package: Units with package tokens at the start of their turn discard all package tokens and choose to gain either strength, vitality or speed of an equal amount to the package tokens discarded.

Special Tags:
Distribute: Once used, remove a token from this unit and give it to another unit within range 3

[night hedge]

yes

[hexed horizon]

tight, ty

[rich scarab]

DOGS OF WAR

[hexed horizon]

heck yeah

[glacial junco]

WOO IGORRI TIME!~

Limbs!! limbs!! limbs!!

[hexed horizon]

Homonculus: Has many knives, but his attack is Flesh Whip 🤔

[rich scarab]

They've got Welsh Arthurian legend based naming

[glacial junco]

He keeps them clean to use on himself

[rich scarab]

Fighting penny who's got checks notes Carcass squad free

[glacial junco]

GO GET EM CHAMP

[rich scarab]

There's only 1 free space on my deployment zone

[nova mason]

Ngl paper standees with these units are very charming

The big brain next step is to get faction colors bases for them lol

Though Idk where to even get bases like that lol

[rich scarab]

We bought them for GB so the set so a bunch of like one colour wasn't something we were looking for

[native viper]

you can find those bases all over the place online, but if nothing else there's always Amazon. Search for game card stands or some variant and hopefully they'll show up

[tacit cedar]

need to do some tomart studies so I can make my own necro

[native viper]

you're looking for something like this:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61S+7cz+PSL._AC_UL320_.jpg

[nova mason]

Cheers

Tbh black would be a good all purpose color for the bases

[glacial junco]

I wonder if I increased the HP of the necromancer and doubledish the unit cap if a player could hold their own in a 1v2.

Just a fun thought really

[steady tangle]

a friend of mine really likes wargames so im recommending this to him

[real bane]

How's Gargamox's Plague play out in practice? I loooove the idea of just planting a ticking time bomb of DoT in a fool and watching it go down, but at a glance it looks decently difficult to apply at scale. Kinda get the impression it's more like a "the attack does 2 damage, but the second damage is delayed and can't kill"

[glacial junco]

I can only attest to it as someone on the receiving end but the plague really hurts opponents because its unavoidable damage, And pushes the victim into making decisions with less options because at the same time you are making lots of hazardous zones.

Err I guess to sum up a bit better Plague isnt terribly tough to apply and compliments your other way of doing damage. And it being again, unstoppable damage makes up for the fact that it can't kill

[nova mason]

Question in paper standees. How does that work with bigger units and the space they occupy?

[tacit cedar]

we just use two

and put them in the middle of the 2x2 square

like on the line

[nova mason]

Cuz I assumed the big units are 2x2

[tacit cedar]

but biggers ones exist I think

[nova mason]

Ah ok

Cuz that was the one issue with standees I realized

They still are very charming though. Just the logistics of it randomly struck me lol

[glacial junco]

They make clear ones with round bases that I got a while back and they offered 2x2 sized ones in the same package as the 1x1 ones

They aren't nearly as cute as the color clamp style though

You could still take the concept and glue the colored clamp to the top of a circle peice of plastic or cardboard though that might work

[tired bolt]

hey gang. im using ffzdf's character sheet and in the ACT abilities and SOUL abilities where it says + Choose One More i can't actually choose one more. am i doing something wrong here or is this a bug i should bring up with the creator

[glacial junco]

You add the act and soul in the Necromancer upgrade section to the right of it

[tired bolt]

ye but it still says 'choose one more' in the statblock

which was causing me confusion

[glacial junco]

Ended up being too space consuming so I don't think he finished that spot

[tired bolt]

ahhh

okay

thanks!

[glacial junco]

I'll mention it to him later in case he doesnt see the messages here. (But I'll @silent sluice anyway)

[short estuary]

As someone one the applying end I have to say while it does set up other damage, it's a race against time. It does let you weaken enemies that you can then tap to kill, but the obvious counterplay to that is having literally any vitality which makes the pretty low Gargamox damage output very difficult to confirm the kill

Perhaps it is my skill issue for only having one way to get extra damage from my rotten scions. It might be more manageable with heresies to get higher dpr units

Depending on what units you run it is easier or harder to apply at scale

If you get a juicy lineup your slimes can wreak havoc

[solid vapor]

Played a 4 way FFA with some folks on the FIST discord. Good time was had, then whatever I was smoking made me want to barf and I disappeared for an hour

That's unrelated to the feedback though

[opaque socket]

no no I think you should blame tom for what you smoked

[solid vapor]

I have some rules case questions WRT vitality- how does it get spent?

[solid vapor]

You're right I should

[opaque socket]

Smoking that Maleghast strain that makes you puke your SOUL out

[solid vapor]

We were wondering how it worked with the angel cause like,

Do all tokens get used at once, only one per instance of damage, or the exact amount it needs

[lethal trench]

One per instance of damage

[solid vapor]

Ahh okay

That makes the angel fucking strong then God damn

[lethal trench]

Holy Body is tanky af in my experience yeah

[undone kestrel]

More sculpting progress! Barrelform weapon is slowly progressing (I am bad at hard surface sculpting) and the Enforcer’s body is beginning to take shape.

[solid vapor]

@frigid magnet @queen nebula @slim sinew here's the ruling for vitality because ik that came up last night (also hi guys)

[rugged cloud]

Just a thing I found but Odd Round Pentitents aoe damage output is kinda insane

Maybe it’s just because I was fighting Carcass though

[solid vapor]

Fucking. Literally dog

That tomb mold pack

That dessicated death-knell embalming fluid eye of newt necropolis-grown "shit will have you speaking in tongues" necromancer ditch weed

[rugged cloud]

The Angel is very good

It’s an artillery piece and perfect body guard

Especially on more cramped maps

[solid vapor]

I used my Igorii SOUL move to shuffle it off to a temporary ally

[slim sinew]

Can confirm

Didnt even take it for the artilery i just wanted to castle it with 2 inquisitors and an antipriest

[rugged musk]

Question, can push and pull move diagonally

[solid vapor]

id assume so

[pale echo]

I don't think any diagonal movement is possible

[opaque socket]

yup, no diagonal movement

including push and pulls

[pale echo]

And Tom has said that if you're on a diagonal you would go one of two directions
#1164643959721693184 message

[rugged musk]

Playing Maleghast on library chess rn

[tired bolt]

playin for the first time tonight

gargamox time

[umbral cipher]

i'm smoking scarab beetles. i'm on that black sabbath bone dust. this shit ain't nothing to me man.

[night hedge]

low effort edit for y’all

[frigid magnet]

the specific thing I was wondering was different though

what I was wondering is essentially just, "does Holy Body lose Vitality if it receives 1 damage?"

[nova mason]

Deadsouls probably just smoke nothing but the most horrid tar

[frigid magnet]

does the Super Armor eat it entirely or does the Vitality still get spent because it's "taking" zero damage

[night hedge]

I have seen the magna carta, I have seen the end of death, I was flippin’ bricks for Obnossifrax before y’all became a type one civilisation. This shit ain’t nothin to me you stupid piece of shit. step the wrong way and you will perish

[cinder isle]

god, the type one civilization line really is just raw as fuck

[nova mason]

Shit just looks like really thick diesel

But somehow gargamox makes that still look reasonable with the shit they smoke lol

[royal socket]

Made a little tool to quickly draw battle maps for sharing/pdf/printing:
MALEGHAST MAP MAKER

and here is an example of sharing: https://alessandrominali.github.io/maleghast/map?w=6&h=8&m=Ew0Bgdk6FYwRjmZLUpvMco7KUQA

You can also import a custom 8x1 tileset each 100x100 to draw with if you don't like the default tileset.

[solid vapor]

oh wait RIGHT

[lapis sun]

sick!

[solid vapor]

@opaque socket thoughts on this boss

[umbral cipher]

If you take no damage I think you still just take no damage

[opaque socket]

thoughts on what ?

[solid vapor]

does super armor prevent vitality from getting chipped

ruling question ig, if its come up for you

[solid vapor]

just did one myself with that one 1bit asset pack

[nova mason]

Vibe tbh

[opaque socket]

I'd say if you reduce something to 0 its no longer damaging you

and I know that does go against what lancer and all do

but i'm gonna go by this

[pale echo]

i don't think it's a nerf Vitality needs

damage numbers are waaaay lower

[cobalt junco]

I'm pretty sure even if you have 5 Vit tokens though it's still just a -1 damage

[umbral cipher]

Tokens do not stack, yeah

[opaque socket]

since it says "deals no damage"

rather than "deals 0 damage"

[umbral cipher]

Or, well, the effects aren't accumulative

[solid vapor]

ah, ok, that clears it up

had a bit o a mixup with that last night

[opaque socket]

at least that's my interpretation of it

[tame pasture]

who let tom cook

[solid vapor]

yeah wording there feels specific

[umbral cipher]

You can only ever deal +1 damage no matter how much Strength tokens you have stacked up, but it does mean you'll get that boost for every time you do damage

[solid vapor]

oh, well shit

well

learnin lesson

[opaque socket]

Basically you only benefit from a single token's name once

[solid vapor]

@frigid magnet i was definitely using strength the wrong way LOL

[cobalt junco]

yeah, played with stacking on day one and the weak tokens made the game really rough -

[opaque socket]

so attacking someone who's vulnerable while you have a strenght token means you deal +2 damage

but if you had just 2 strenght tokens you'd only do +1 damage

[pulsar lodge]

For people who have played already, what’s the average match time ?

[umbral cipher]

Yeah, Goregrinders stacks up Strength so that they're effectively doing a bunch of 2 damage chips rather than 1 damage chips

[tame pasture]

first time for me was 2 hours

seems that some other people have similar times

[pulsar lodge]

huh cool

[opaque socket]

My first time was less than an hour

[umbral cipher]

Which is good, that's a great deal

[tame pasture]

that was via a vtt

[pulsar lodge]

on a 8x8?

[tame pasture]

yuh

8x8 duel

[bleak folio]

1-2 hours is speedy holy

[frigid magnet]

my first game was longer but that was probably because we said fuck it and did a 4-player FFA, lol

[tame pasture]

oh yeah

4 players will like

vaguely double the time

probably

[bleak folio]

yea thats p typical

[pulsar lodge]

I’m prob doing a simple 1 v 1 matchup

[umbral cipher]

Armored characters effectively mean that if you want to deal you some damage you need to either Vulnerable or Strength your way past or use a damage type that works around it

[thick sphinx]

Or break out the big hitters. Pilebunker, ho!

[umbral cipher]

Or that!

[glacial junco]

Igorri necromancer is gender and thats one reason I love them.

But DAMN do i love that priests look from the Abhorrors

[cinder isle]

the abhorrors have an extremely hellsing vibe to me

[glacial junco]

It reminds me of the dude from hellsing

Ye

[cinder isle]

that guy feels exactly like alexander anderson, yeah

[bleak folio]

i wonder how well u could do this game in solo play

[tacit cedar]

enjoying carcass

[umbral cipher]

as for Vitality tokens being really cracked, I will note that there's a handful of tools to scrap tokens on allies and enemies
usually on Freak type units

[tacit cedar]

carcass feels really good into vit

cause theres so much vuln throwing

[umbral cipher]

Barrelform's Death Mark is nasty for that, yeah

[tacit cedar]

deathmarks headshot even gets past igorri

[umbral cipher]

I've been kicking around homebrew concepts for a house that focuses harder in on using Vulnerable

[naive glacier]

that abhorrer guy is a mix between Anderson and vergil from devil may cry

gonna release a typo pass for the game this weekend or next week

[opaque socket]

I'm shocked, you would NEVER reference Vergil from DMC, that's SO out of nowhere

[naive glacier]

I will also release a document called 'maleghast for sickos' that will have some rules clarifications

[umbral cipher]

lmao

[opaque socket]

nice

[solid vapor]

quick q- will this version have searchable text haha

wanted to copy/paste rules text into stuff

[naive glacier]

yeah I think I can export it w/out embedded text

it just make the doc load nicer and shrinks it slightly

[solid vapor]

ahhh okok

thatd be killer, ty

[umbral cipher]

ah sick that means I can steal the unit blocks and make a template outta them

[torn portal]

is there any way to download it as an image?

[solid vapor]

also uh, are the scenario maps meant to be 8x6

[bleak folio]

theyre special scenarios so i assume as much

[short cloud]

Yooo

[naive glacier]

i just designed them off the cuff

[royal socket]

Yes! Print it via your browser and make sure to select print background images. You can even scale it through those print options. Then save it as pdf

[undone kestrel]

Barrelform and Enforcer comparison. Debating if the gun is too big, but it might just be posing at the moment.

[bleak folio]

yoo barrelform's comin out great

[undone kestrel]

Gotta shave down the grip a bit to secure the wire and start sculpting the hand, but it’s getting really close to ready.

[tacit cedar]

holy shit that's awesome

[rich scarab]

Old Maggie ate us both

[tacit cedar]

was really close

fun game

[rich scarab]

That Tom 'Maleghast' Lancer sure is a good designer

[tacit cedar]

think my balanced comp was good

[rich scarab]

I think my Dog based Comp was also good, if I simply ate more corpses and then attack more

[tacit cedar]

cause it felt like I had a toolbox I could then figure out my key pieces to counter the enemy's thing

[rich scarab]

I should've put my Necro closer to people too, as I took the "buff people within 2 trait" and then never did that

[solid vapor]

more maps

burner that turns on and off

[lapis bone]

Dogfriend these rule

[solid vapor]

tyy

just noodling

[keen ravine]

How essential is the ammo goblin for Carcass? Was thinking of doing two extended barrel barrelforms with an enforcer and egis weapon to provide cover

but that leaves my reload economy pretty weak

[bleak folio]

gods these maps are so vibes

[opaque socket]

they aren't that essential

I think you could do without them

[umbral cipher]

Simply don't need to move

[rich scarab]

The ammo goblin is not needed imo, like the board are small enough that reloadings not too much of an issue

[opaque socket]

they're just nice for buffs

[keen ravine]

Oh right reloading doesn't take your action right, it takes your move?

[umbral cipher]

Ammo Goblin is like... depends on how much you like your mobility

[rich scarab]

Especially as like the enemies going to be moving closer to you

[opaque socket]

I don't think they're useless to be clear, they're great enablers

[lethal trench]

yeah

[tacit cedar]

@naive glacier questions for the clarification doc in case they haven't already been raised; Interaction between strength and aoe, does one token affect the entire application of damage etc; does the person with initiative always start the round? in general clarification of turn order when activation count becomes uneven etc

[lethal trench]

the value of the reload move is more that you basically give that target an extra move IMO

though I think Bone Shards might honestly be the main selling point for Ammo Goblin to me

[tacit cedar]

I didn't get a lot of use out of ammo goblin. reload slide is really good if you're set up right

cause 1 soul is a steal and you can time it a lot

[opaque socket]

yup

[lethal trench]

though Regurgitate Ammo also gives Strength, which is pretty important

[tacit cedar]

my necro loadout was cover trait; double barrel; double tap

[night hedge]

bone shards is only good if your mass is built around it imo

whilst regurgitate ammo is always useful on carcass

[tacit cedar]

double barrel would combo really good with bone shards

n yeah honestly I found the strength the more useful consideration than the reload

[glacial junco]

As someone that doesn't want people to catch on, Strength tokens feel so key against my faction where I stack Vit tokens quick

So stop gaining strength so quickly I need to do science

[small locust]

https://tenor.com/view/rattle-em-gif-25557316

[small locust]

CARCASS

[thick sphinx]

Reading the initiative rules again, seems like whoever the person who won initiative chose always acts first, and that every unit has to be activated before a round end so the person with the most units may activate two or more times in a row

[night hedge]

bounces off of super armour but that's only worth thinking about for abhorrers

[solid vapor]

2fort

[night hedge]

when the fort is 2

these are so cool tho

[glacial junco]

We treated start of round player like we would lancer or Icon tbh but could be wrong

[thick sphinx]

Remind me what this means? I've read Lamcer but have never had a chance to play it

[arctic solar]

additional- does ignoring armor or ward also ignore super armor; how does LV4 Living Cannon's tag work, ex. can you open with LV4, reload, Akimbo, reload, LV4 again?

[glacial junco]

New round player is whoever is next in natural rotation

[tacit cedar]

we didn't really end up having to decide cause I went second and had the activation lead from early on

[rich scarab]

I wish as Igorri I had less physical damage because Penny's Necro had ARM

[night hedge]

actually just realised, you can choose to act before move so reload right after shooting

[glacial junco]

If its 3 player and A, B Have all activated and C was last to activate their unit. A would then start

[rich scarab]

And needing at least 1 strength every time I attacked was annoying

[nova mason]

I mean in lancer it was who the players agreed goes firstlol

[harsh gorge]

Ah greetings maleghast players

[glacial junco]

Well lancer is deliberatly 2 sides

[harsh gorge]

Played some of this yesterday

[glacial junco]

Allies vs NPCs

[harsh gorge]

Enjoying carcass and deadsouls

[night hedge]

real for that

[small locust]

Hoping to play some Gargamox myself soon

I got so many hazards planned

[glacial junco]

I want to try playing goregrinders next but i'm still in love with igorri games tbh

[small locust]

And death burst

[glacial junco]

Where if the PCs ended the round then the NPCs would start the next round. and vice versa

[small locust]

My main goal is to blow up and act like i dont know nobody

[glacial junco]

If player C ends the round 1 player A gets to start round 2.
if player A ends round 2 then B gets to start in round 3.
Thats how we handled our game though We could have been handling it wrong

[tame matrix]

Where'd you find that asset pack if you don't mind me asking?

[solid vapor]

https://kenney-assets.itch.io/1-bit-pack

[tame matrix]

nice ty

[small locust]

Hot

Can we share lists here?

[pale echo]

Ye go for it

[small locust]

GARGAMOX

The Necromancer (LUTHOR BENTEVON)

Traits
BLESSED WITH FILTH
POLLUTION SHROUD

ACTS
VIRULENCE
CORPSE EXPLOSION

SOUL
INFEST
SLIME FORM
INSIDES OUT

---

5 Units

SCUM (x2)
SCUM (x2)
ROTTEN
LEECH
SLIME

[subtle nest]

ello

fhis game has only been out for two days or so and there's already 6697 messages

prouda you /gen

[small locust]

My goal with this roster is to literally be annoying af with suicide bombers and hazards

[subtle nest]

anyways i wanna get to maleghasting, is there a dedicated play server or is it too early for that

[pale echo]

nope
just this

[subtle nest]

neat

[rich scarab]

just saw that Dooms round 4, that's pretty wild

[subtle nest]

yeah

[small locust]

What does Doom?

[subtle nest]

6 unresistable damage

when round 4 comes

[small locust]

Oh my roster? I just thought the explosions would be funny

[vague elbow]

nah, doom is deadsouls

[short cloud]

can you not take scum 2 for 1?

[subtle nest]

ah oops

[small locust]

I am, its 2 slots with 2 scum, so im takingn 4 scum. Thats how it works right?

[vague elbow]

yes

[short cloud]

ok

[naive glacier]

for str and aoe its as written, increase damage by +1 when dealing damage, ie you can apply the str token to just one instance of damage. for initiative, it needs clarification but it retains alternating turns ie whoever acted last, the other player goes

[subtle nest]

a question

does doom deal damage after 4 rounds or is it only the 4th round of any game

i feel like it should be the former if the latter is the case

[vague elbow]

end of 4th round specfically is how I read it

otherwise it would read "four rounds from applying it" which would be unusable past round 2

[subtle nest]

so doom in general is just nonexistant past round 4

i guess that's fair, given how it does 6 irresistible damage

[vague elbow]

yeah after that its just cleanup for deadsouls

[subtle nest]

plus four means death in japanese

[lethal trench]

For the Abhorrer Zealot, is Smite's bonus determined when you use Smite or when you make the empowered Chain attack?
Ie if you Smite on round 2 and then Chain on 3, do you get +1 or +2 damage?
And does Smites bonus damage still apply on a Graze with Chain?

[chrome plover]

Not quite nonexistant, there's a lot of things that trigger off of Doom tokens that still work after round 4. But the big threat is gone

[arctic solar]

How does LV4 Living Cannon work- can you LV4 Cannon turn 1, reload, Akimbo, reload, LV4 Cannon?

Does ignoring armor/ward ignore super armor?

[harsh gorge]

Gonna draw my necromancers later today

Hopefully

[small locust]

Heres the comm i plan to use for mine

[short cloud]

<Punk Tactics>

House: Gargamox | Heresy: CARCASS
Malice: Loathing (4) | Unit Limit: 5

[Units]
2x  Barrelform (Extended Barrel)
1x  Rotten
1x2 SCUM (Aftermath)
1x  Host (Defiler)

[Necromancer]
Plaguelord
Bonus Trait: Spreader

[ACT Upgrades]
Carniphagous Blade | Superkick

[SOUL Upgrades]
Purge Guts

gargamox heresy CARACASS sauce?

would be open to C&C

[harsh gorge]

Oh nice

[small locust]

My plan for heresy is Gargamox Igorri, spam the Igorri thralls for double corpse explosions

[arctic solar]

love barrelform all my homies love barrelform

[harsh gorge]

I’m doodling my dead soul and carcass necromancer

Barrel form <3

[small locust]

Ammo goblin got me if no one else does

[arctic solar]

extended barrel might actually be tough to work with though depending on the map

[lethal trench]

You can enable Extended with cover from units right?

[arctic solar]

you can

[tacit cedar]

enforcer is pretty tank ngl

cover + armor is cool

[thick sphinx]

Settled on a name for my Gargamox Dark Mass, "The Light Infectious". Now all I need are a half dozen names that are puns on Disco Metal...

[small locust]

Disco fever

[short cloud]

I have not played the game yet totally open to suggestions on how to do it better

[small locust]

Try to win, protect the necromancer, dont die

[short cloud]

I meant more the list

[small locust]

Ah

Thrall spam, idk if its valid but it is funny

To me anyways

[umbral cipher]

Honestly, just taking 1 of all the dudes is a valid tact

[short cloud]

I mean more doing gargamox heresy carcass at loathing really

[small locust]

Well the problem is that your carcass units would also take plague damage wouldnt they?

Since theyre not Gargamox?

[umbral cipher]

I've not messed with heresy stuff yet

[harsh gorge]

Heresy seems complicated

[thick sphinx]

A few questions Abhorrers raise:

• If a unit is resurrected via Miracle or the Resurrection SOUL upgrade, does it still have the tokens it had before it died?
• If a unit with a "start of combat" trait is resurrected or returned to the battlefield (e.g. the Holy Body via either Resurrection or the Blood Grinder scenario rules), does it count as starting combat for the purposes of that trait?
• If a unit is resurrected via Miracle or Resurrection but, in the intervening time, the space where it died has become occupied, where on the battlefield does it resurrect?

[shy forum]

the writing specifically notes "starts combat" and not "start of combat" so imo it would count for the trait to trigger if it gets resurrected

since if it was "start of combat" that would more suggest the start of the game I'd say

[night hedge]

just realised playing maleghast in a graveyard is a possibility

[bleak folio]

maleghast starts a new satanic panic

[wet rose]

I really like the cover art. She just looks so happy.

[rugged musk]

That would be the dream scenario

[rugged musk]

Creating and slaying horrors with the oomfies

[harsh gorge]

Love the abhorrers

[keen ravine]

LOATHING BLACK MASS

MISSUS KILLER JUNIOR
TRAITS| ACT Abilities  | SOUL Abilities
- FORMATION | - AKIMBO| - RELOAD SLIDE
- HOT CLIP  | - DEVIL BULLET | - BULLET TIME
- CLUTCH RELOAD  | - | - FRAG BULLET
    
1X HEAVY CALIBER CANNON EGIS WEAPON “BLOODY POPPY”
1X EXTENDED BARREL BARRELFORM “HECKLER”
1X EXTENDED BARREL BARRELFORM “KOCH”
1x ENFORCER “KILL RADIUS”```

[harsh gorge]

“No no we’re just Christian”
“…huh”
“Yeah”

[rugged musk]

At first I was like "wow, hypocritical priests" but now I think it's just as cool as the rest

There are no uncool necromancer houses

[harsh gorge]

If you take them at face value they might get their fucking powers from the exact opposite of devils

And considering their bullshit?

[rugged musk]

I will take that thank you

[harsh gorge]

I don’t disagree

[bleak folio]

clearly God is just a devil

[harsh gorge]

…I’d still pray to that

Based tbh

[vague elbow]

I love how most of the shitposts have been abhorrers themed so far

[bleak folio]

theyre just built for it

[shy forum]

it is like, really shitposty theme wise in general imo

[harsh gorge]

The abhorrers have been kicking my ass

[bleak folio]

Shitpost Sword Arts

[shy forum]

"we love god and hate necromancers, we fight necromancy with necromancy bro"

[harsh gorge]

Like I’ve ONLY fought abhorrers

[umbral cipher]

Christians are gonna fucking Get karen

[lethal trench]

Sword Art: Transcendent Shitpost Technique

[harsh gorge]

Nnoooooo

[bleak folio]

jesus at the temple was him being a karen

[harsh gorge]

NOOOO

YOU CANNOT

YOU CANNOT

DENIAL

[bleak folio]

sometimes im glad i was raised catholic

[thick sphinx]

https://youtu.be/iktC8imMBnw?si=tNozwKA4sAaY_SBh&t=113

[rugged musk]

I'm thinking Gianni Matragrano running abhorrers and doing the Gabriel voice every single time the necromancer does anything

And trash talking units, trash talking terrain, trash talking ability"

I have played a single match (Me carcass vs Goregrinders) and I died due to devil impact mutually assured destruction, except he didn't because blood rage

[shy forum]

do you think abhorrors knock over a peaceful necromancers charm table in the market

[thick sphinx]

Yesssssssss

[bleak folio]

where r yall gettin these games together hot damn

[subtle nest]

YEAH LIKE

I WANT SOME OF THAT TOO

[shy forum]

I dragged my partner into a game

it read simple enough for them to not stress out over the rules

[bleak folio]

is there already a maleghast underground scene i dont know

[rugged musk]

On school lunch I walked into the library, asked for a chess board, and explained the rules to one of the gang

[rugged musk]

If not, why isn't there

[harsh gorge]

Dragging my group chat

Into this

[solid vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/470253506868019201/1169686857404133416/image.png

here you go

[subtle nest]

has to be bc otherwise there ain't no way

[keen ravine]

LESS GOOOOO

[glacial junco]

my lancer crew are combat freaks like me 😌

[rugged musk]

I'm thinking. Could I greatly enlarge the scale of necromancer and turn it into a TTRPG? Could I use the ICON system for RP and Maleghast for combat? How deranged can I go

[thick sphinx]

Actually, Blood Rage doesn't save you from Devil Impact. Devil Damage Obliterates

[rugged musk]

DEVIL DAMAGE OBLITERATES?

Then it was truly mutually assured destruction, a tie

[rugged musk]

Hilarious

I'll be sure to tell him his victory was hollow, for it was in fact a tie

[thick sphinx]

Which is a shame, because I love the idea of surviving Devil Impact via Blood Rage

Beautifully cinematic moment

[rugged musk]

I have tried tacticool skeletons, I will try deadsouls and abhorrers later

[bleak folio]

i dont see why not

[rugged musk]

And if I get this correctly, if you deal 999 damage to a unit with blood rage, and it still doesn't die until I hit it again?

[shy forum]

I feel that maleghast would fit more into a campaign structure e.g. necromunda but I am curious how one could make it a full rpg system

[pale echo]

Tom's mentioned a GUN-type narrative system for it

[bleak folio]

tho honestly maleghast feels like it could be a hack of THE PIT

[thick sphinx]

It's perfect for Necromunda-style campaigns, yeah

[rugged musk]

Probably because of the larger scale, amount of necromancer/other units

[short cloud]

Gargamox https://fixupx.com/realcatirl/status/1719770585880830028?s=46

[rugged musk]

I don't have a lot of wargame experience (Heck, I have Warhammer minis but almost never play), and I thought Maleghast narratives would go more like 40K crusades, which are basically using the same army over and over and getting buffs and debuffs for it

[tacit cedar]

you could do an escalation league with maleghast very easily

[harsh gorge]

Maleghast is very fun and snappy

[thick sphinx]

I think a steady drip of Dark Power to upgrade your Mass works well

[rich scarab]

Maleghast for a narrative system would be perfect for having different units but the same necro

[halcyon wharf]

Yeah its well suited to that

[bleak folio]

maleghast gives me the vibes of gang fights and territorial disputes over city streets

[rugged musk]

Yeah, not so much full-scale war

[rich scarab]

as you're a necromancer raising different dead each time

[rugged musk]

Which just made me realize I AM GOING TO MAKE A TOURNAMENT ARC ONESHOT FOR THE GANG

[shy forum]

aw I like naming my gang goons though

not the same if my little guy is ash and dust each time ;(

[rich scarab]

The issue with naming your goons is that they aall get blowned up

[harsh gorge]

Not necessarily

[rugged musk]

Small house dispute, they call a necromancer for each house and they get to fight for the honor of their house, with units at their disposal

[bleak folio]

in fairness, theyre corpses

im p sure u can bring the guys back

[harsh gorge]

I’ve named all of mine

[rugged musk]

Also how funny would it be to run necromancer + 10 thralls

[halcyon wharf]

name more

[bleak folio]

cyan wanted to do that

[harsh gorge]

And yea you’re a necromancer AND in the fucked up city

[bleak folio]

well it was 12 thralls from a miscount but still

[rich scarab]

it's not as funny when you run out of room in your deployment zone

[shy forum]

me petting my thrall on the head wishing them luck, knowing they'll be reassembled by the city 200 miles away in 6 days

[glacial junco]

Better for some houses than others

[rugged musk]

I would name them if I decided a faction to play

Also if even the necromancer dies, they DO return in 6 days too right? So there is no "game over"

[tacit cedar]

I think 10 thralls is probably the best way to make the 6 soul upgrades work

[harsh gorge]

No reason why you can’t have the same little guys

Yeah

Necromancer should also come back

[rugged musk]

Igorri when surrounded by corpses

[harsh gorge]

Carcass and the gun boys

[glacial junco]

I've found that my necro LIKES corpse, She doesn't NEED them

[rich scarab]

The Igorri one soul thing is amazing

just eat 4 corpses and become god king

[bleak folio]

u know what
first game i play in maleghast, im running 10 igorri thralls

[rugged musk]

Also just so I know what system I could use; Are there different sentient species in Maleghast aside from "Flesh and bone, Flesh, and Bone"?

[bleak folio]

either that or gargamox

just for the funnis

[rugged musk]

Best of luck

[glacial junco]

We love our flesh doctors.

[timber onyx]

Define "species"

[tacit cedar]

igorri where you name all your Stitches but you give each two names and randomise which two end up stitched together after each fight

[timber onyx]

Really

[rugged musk]

Fabulous bile is 1000% igorri

[glacial junco]

Igorri fans raise your hands to the air (We have BONUS arms!) ((This is the second time i made this jokedon't hurt me))

[rugged musk]

20 names and you mix and match for each time

[bleak folio]

its a random table

[candid monolith]

I think all the factions are cool

I think I just like gore boys most because melee

[rugged musk]

Igorri fans hands in the air!

(40 arms are raised)

(The crowd disperses. It's 2 igorri dudes)

[bleak folio]

i get gender envy from both the Igorri necros

[rugged musk]

That's the point

[glacial junco]

I can't agree enough

[shy forum]

CARCASS and the abhorrors are prolly my fave theme wise

[umbral cipher]

the masses have spoken

[tacit cedar]

That's the point

[harsh gorge]

Carcass and deadsouls seem to be my fav

Deadsouls is what I want when I wanna be a truly edgy necromancer from hell

No excuses no other reasons

This is the devil worshipper

[glacial junco]

Once i settle into this month I'm prolly going to get a design togther to commission my necromancer because yeah I'm normal about new game.

[harsh gorge]

The one who is the monstrous stereotype that all other necromancers live in the shadow of

I’m being really normal about this new game too

[rugged musk]

Well, are there other sentient species in Maleghast?

If there are, I'm using ICON narrative stats

[nova mason]

Gargamox and deadsouls are like my two aesthetics

Weird goth

[harsh gorge]

Lol

[nova mason]

Punk gremlins

[glacial junco]

Slimecore

[bleak folio]

i do love how gargamox is so slimey (literal)

[opaque socket]

I don't know how to break it to you

[pale echo]

none confirmed but you've seen the city "cast" page

[opaque socket]

they're all weird goths

[candid monolith]

I like deadsouls' aesthetic but playstyle I'm all about fast melee lunatics so

[pale echo]

Ther room for interpretation

[tame pasture]

suffering rn

[undone kestrel]

Carcass is just the skeleton war joke, plus high calcium operators

[tame pasture]

round 3

no headshots

https://tenor.com/view/skeletons-berserk-roast-skeleton-gif-25184374

[glacial junco]

The necro's cloak is a bunch of ratskins just sorta hung about them and thats so cool

[opaque socket]

why aren't you rolling well ?

[tame pasture]

i won the last game

[rugged musk]

A friend told me "share the rulebook but in this country's language" (Spanish) and I'm like "brother this game has been out for 2 days and you can speak English, read"

[glacial junco]

Ratskin poncho

[candid monolith]

Just roll higher forehead

[tame pasture]

destiny has said no

[opaque socket]

if it were me i'd roll a 6

[bleak folio]

good rule of thumb is if it fits in dark souls, itd fit here too

[opaque socket]

Jokes aside

did you play Carcass before Gamb ?

[tame pasture]

yes

[harsh gorge]

L+formation

[tame pasture]

this is my second time

[opaque socket]

Ah gotcha

[tame pasture]

ok they had to leave early

i won

[harsh gorge]

3 6’s

[tame pasture]

gg

goregrinder moment

[candid monolith]

I've seen it Eld has a pact with a demon and only rolls 6 no matter the die type

[opaque socket]

I think Carcass likes headshots but you need a plan usualyl for if you don't trigger it

[harsh gorge]

Yeah

Headshot + six souls does work for a funny hail Mary

[opaque socket]

I tried to make a headshot build with like

[tame pasture]

oh yeah just the lack of headshots for 3 rounds like

ruined my momentum

[opaque socket]

clutch reload

[weak igloo]

Comrade you could not be more incorrect this man is the most pathetic mercenary I’ve ever seen

[glacial junco]

New house idea. Its just helltaker, Devil people with suits Absolutely no punk aesthetics.

[harsh gorge]

Hahahahahahha

[opaque socket]

and I knew I was gonna use uh

what's it called

hold on

[tame pasture]

if it wasn't for a little cheese of farming miracle for points in goregrinder

[harsh gorge]

Well that’s the devil’s cost

[opaque socket]

both slide reload

[tame pasture]

i'd have no points rn

[candid monolith]

My cover is blown

[opaque socket]

this is very good

on your operator

[umbral cipher]

Devil Bullet goes hard

[rugged musk]

We are all being very normal about this 2 day old game

[glacial junco]

[tame pasture]

ps

i have a newfound hate

for holy bodies

[lethal trench]

they are very annoying 😛

[tame pasture]

now that i realise they just sit in the corner of the map and spam mapwide damage

[opaque socket]

just like IRL angels

[tame pasture]

while being stupid hard to kill

[opaque socket]

i've had one floating near my window for the past month they're very annoying

"you need to repent for your sins, you will not go to heaven" yeah yeah I know

[torn portal]

quick question, when you garze a target do you apply bonus damage from vulnerable?

[opaque socket]

yeah

[torn portal]

and strenght?

[opaque socket]

yeah

[glacial junco]

Watching the floating cube with a halo start to spin quicker

[opaque socket]

https://youtube.com/shorts/fkFvYTaEGuA?si=uzXO5BXF_KfYnzkN

[prime portal]

So genuine question

[rich scarab]

me when I attatch a rocket booster from the video game Just Cause 3 to the voice of god

[prime portal]

Should we like

Keep this to a thread

[glacial junco]

what do you mean

[prime portal]

Or should we expand it into an actual channel.ala icon

[opaque socket]

For now I don't know if we need more than this forum post

tbh

[rich scarab]

I think it's fine as a forum thing

Especially as like, forum things are very similar to chanel in like function

[jovial tulip]

Yeye
Chats are good when you want threads for very very specific things, forums are better for bigger threads

And for stuff that really wouldn't have a general chat associated with it

[thick sphinx]

I think separating rules questions and general "Holy Fuck this game is awesome" would be useful

[bleak folio]

i should prolly be sleeping instead of figurin out a list for a stitch horde

[opaque socket]

If this stays a forum post we are almost def not going to have two forum posts about maleghast

I say we wait a bit more until we see if this forum thread doesn't work well

tbh

game just came out, lots of people are playing it at once, I don't really want to make a channel for something that might not have enough posts to justify it

[bleak folio]

also like, the forum thread is basically already a channel, its just less visible

[undone kestrel]

I’m mostly making physical stuff for it, which can just go in gallery if I’m desperate for feedback.

[opaque socket]

Not that I don't think people will play Maleghast in a few weeks, I just think right now we may be seeing the peak of how active this forum will be

[rich scarab]

Especially when it comes to rules question and stuff