Warhammer and Such

[jaunty dawn]

Airburst spam is probably the biggest contributor to the crisis suit change

But also airburst and cluster ion should just never have been a spammable weapon imo 😭

Like regardless of points n stuff

Theyre meant to be specialised cutting edge stuff

[mental birch]

200 years ago yea

Haahaha

[dense idol]

i think i've finally got my list for abolishing fun at 500 points

shard of the nightbringer, plus three other units i could fit in the remaining 195 points that don't really matter compared to the nightbringer (lokhust heavy destroyer with emnitic exterminator, 5 immortals, chronomancer)

[sour sequoia]

Are you runnin the chrono solo or attached

JSJ ain’t bad but if you need 4 units I’d roll with a hexmark

Babysits nightbringer or immortals and dumps shots back into people who shoot em

[dense idol]

i'm using the units that i already have, and i have yet to find a good discount on Pistols Georg on the secondhand market

[thin ibex]

we shoulda gotten safer refinements of them as weapon options i think

Ion gun with no friggin overcharge, the same way tau plasma isn't about overcharging

[sour sequoia]

Fair and valid, go forth and conquer

[dense idol]

nevermind, complications have occured with the delivery of the nightbringer (from my friend's resin printer)

returning to Ol' Reliable (orikan + reanimator + 20 warriors)

i can still fit the skorpekh and lokhust destroyers in the leftover space

[wide veldt]

https://youtu.be/ujEvAYaBQLI?si=Z7ZITdjUUpKebDZs

[runic swallow]

Okay I’m rather surprised I can’t find either a pyramid or sand emoji

[empty siren]

I got some models primed yippeeee

Mostly my crisis suits and a devilfish. I still need to do my infantry :(

I need to be taught the ways of 40k Table top sim😔

[thin ibex]

Is Orikan + 20 warriors the bees knees?

[sonic hare]

u could call it divine

[thin ibex]

ive been wanting to do necrons, and i want to big warrior blob even though i know its not exactly the best

because im a sucker for undying legion vibes

[sonic hare]

szeras is kinda sick for that

[empty siren]

if I ever win the lottery

I'm building orks

And I'm going all in on horde

I don't need anything but 6 reinforced Beast Snaggas and 6 reinforced Boyz

240 battleline models

Dread Mob for Gretchin to be battleline. 132 + 240 = 372 models. Only 2580 pts

We're taking an hour a movement phase with this one boyz

[desert jay]

🏜️

[runic swallow]

Not exactly Egypt, but it’s close as it seems emojis get aside from 🇪🇬

[pastel rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/408452338622267401/1370757618561319043/xqbe5azzxvye1.png?ex=6820a903&is=681f5783&hm=5a6bd1d1299717e3a7d45b4e89356ae5abea022e3a5da3f90d6203748cce77dc&

[bold halo]

that's why they're called hive worlds

[bright dove]

Legally distinct from Hive Worlds in Administratum records.

[wintry mist]

skep worlds

[quaint compass]

If there are Hide Worlds, shouldn't there be Seek Worlds?

[floral herald]

Couldn’t they just use petroleum wax?

[upper canopy]

Wouldn't it be easier to farm people for ear wax

[bold halo]

on that note the candles you see everywhere are probably tallow

byproduct of the corpse starch factories

[runic swallow]

Tbh I could see various shrine worlds also being places to produce Holy Wax

Especially if you wanted to make the historical reference to monks often having side-gigs like doing beekeeping

[finite compass]

There are canonically entire agri-worlds devoted to raising 'porcines' specifically for the purposes of vellum for parchment

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/12smr0i/why_parchment_instead_of_paper/

[bright dove]

I imagine that there's Agri worlds with bees, on account of honey, wax, and the bees bodies all being viable products in addition to the pollination.

[misty violet]

Remember, if a question ever arises about something logistical in the Imperium just assume the worst, cruelest, and least efficient source

[pulsar holly]

Isn’t there also corpse wax?

[pastel rampart]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335952679197 In one of the rarest damn finds I've ever seen:

[empty siren]

I LOVE BROADSIDES YIPPEEEEE

I tried experimental cadre irl today

It's nice. The +6" actually came in handy a lot but I ended up not using many of the stratagems. I'm gonna try Montka next time. I wanna get more broadsides for missiles

Assault and lethal if guided definitely is nice. Especially because I wanna run two Fireknife units with missiles eventually

[past sphinx]

gawddamn

[thin ibex]

broadsides are given a great deal of speed via montka lets them get into really important firing positions by giving those railguns assault

[empty siren]

Rail guns yes

But missiles :3

Mmmm missiles. My friends list isnt super vehicle heavy but his heavy hitters aren't vehicles it's his terminators and plague marines. The versatility is what lets him score the most

Game of secondaries and scoring vp, not killing right?

[west zealot]

"Hold the line! Stand and die protcool!" Moments later, Arbitraotr gets squished by a Lictor.

Tithes is good and they shoulda made more

[twilit island]

I only recently realised Sicarians are a variant of Skittari.

I thought they were robots, like Kastelans lmao

[pastel rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrj26xJr8-8

[mental birch]

Do you see the vision

[pastel rampart]

Got their nails did.

[mental birch]

Gonna replace the nails with an arc rifle

Hshshah

And make it a Breacher

[ruby token]

gang if i wanted to make a fremen style kill team what would be a good option? i’m considering nemesis claw for stealth and terror tactics and shit but i’m not sure

[floral herald]

What are you looking to exemplify about the fremen?

[ruby token]

the hit and run/stealthy gameplay mostly, terror tactics and strong melee optional

[floral herald]

Consider Phobos maybe?

Or actually if you want melee focus Blades of Khaine

[jaunty dawn]

Kroot are super stealthy but ranged focused in how they do it

Specially if you just want pretty much human statlines (they’re a little tougher)

[floral herald]

Brood Bros are also kinda stealth and melee oriented while being standard template humans

[sour sequoia]

Points to brood brothers for the mining suit designs being abt as close as you get to stillsuits

[upper canopy]

Striking Scorpions?

[sour sequoia]

Just paint their lil tubes up

[floral herald]

Oh yeah good point wyrmblade is also great for this

[thin ibex]

My vote would be kroot. They're not all superior melee, but the cut skin is no joke

[west zealot]

Health Nosh!

[ruby token]

hell yeah gang thanks for all the help

i’ll be sure to post stuff when i get around to it, kroot does seem like a good idea

[west zealot]

" If it had been possible to solve our many problems through the continual application of unrestrained force, then you would have thought that over ten thousand years of trying it we might have had some rather better outcomes."

Custodians: not impressed with the imperium

[past sphinx]

theres a section of the custodes called the black cloaks i believe? that survived the heresy and got ultra depression on how the imperium has decayed

thats what my army scheme was based on

[jaunty dawn]

This feels gross?

Not like

That its impossible for the cities to be gross but like im not very into it

Tbc i mean the fact that Human leaders command 3 units

[rocky shale]

I mean cities has a ton of mechanics that specify human/aelf/duardin

[bright dove]

Yeah, that's fine imo

Because the human units are

Boy are there some things they're not going to be good to fight, even if you're boosting three units.

[thin ibex]

I'm sure they're trying their best

Guys. I traditionally play tau, but next season of a little mini league I'm in starts soon and I gotta choose if I'm staying with my boys or playing as Aeldari (my planned pick), Nids, Admech, or Necrons

[tardy vault]

GW has been heavily heavily hinting that people shouldn't be married to their CoS elf and dwarf stuff

this is just another part of it

[brittle salmon]

where

[tardy vault]

Not in actual official communications as much as pattern recognition and deciding who gets attention

humans were the only ones that got refreshes

meanwhile dwarves have old world boxes rn and they have already axed an entire army because it was in old world

also, this update was extremely human focused.

the other two subfactions have pretty much 1 piece in this stuff and that's the above battle formation

like, GW really really wants you to buy human stuff if you're playing CoS

as for the dark elves, Marlerion still is coming Soon™️. The Dark Elves aren't announced yet but with the way things are going they're coming sooner or later.

DoK players are anticipating we're getting a new Cauldron sculpt as our terrian so old world can steal the current one for example

[brittle salmon]

Yeaaaaah

[tardy vault]

side note, my advice for a new player who wants to buy into those parts of CoS is to look at either Lumineth Realm Lords for the elves or to honestly sit tight or look at Old World for Dwarves. While Lumineth end up in a similar space as the CoS elves (especially with a custom paint job) there's really not a good traditional dwarf faction in CoS rn until the White Dwarf gets his shit together

[rocky shale]

The "play your old dudes" part of CoS definitely feels like it has a finite shelf life

On the flip side its sad that the Cathay stuff is for old world because it looks super cool but I'd want to play it in the AoS rules

[tardy vault]

tbf their foot soldier at least is a super easy Steelhelm proxy

but the rest of it...

[jaunty dawn]

My point is that its weird to have an ability about the cosmopolitan aspect of cities which places humans in a superior position

Like it changes cities from “normal people living in cities” to “human cities with oppressed populations of other races”

I also dont think like. If they rip out elf/dwarf from cities it has anything (necessarily) to do with old world. Old world is a reason to revamp these units to actually be city themed

With the point there being that making cities a Human thing specifically is gonna be a Choice

Not a forced one at all

[deft crest]

I missed the chance but Kroot are scary in melee if you are anywhere south of 8 wounds.

-# But the same could be said for ANY melee i suppose

[mental birch]

kroot melee you mean nightmare tarpits

hahaaha

[floral herald]

Yeah 7 wounders live in fear in general though

But Kroot clean up pretty well in melee if they can get ranged chip in

[past sphinx]

Now thats a chaos knight loadout

[floral herald]

I think I see like 3 rumor mills on it haha

Looks fucking sick though

[spice flicker]

Giant frak off flamer with a massive drill/grinder as well makes this very interesting.

Knight Defender wants to play defense and keep some distance while Knight Ruinator wants to get close and play offensively.

[jaunty dawn]

Face looks a little like durthu haha

[pulsar holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730047450877919232/1371442848506974218/VID_20250511_184431_595.mp4?ex=6823272f&is=6821d5af&hm=a7205c4248221577d8cb7a17f57c73a487c1f8671823fae2113b991c9a22d14f&

[pulsar holly]

Chaos Knight? I think you'll find that this is a good and loyal knight of the Imperium

[past sphinx]

its the perfect loadout for my nightlords

big fuck off angry flamer and missiles

[paper bluff]

See now that knight has Rizz

[rocky shale]

Oh I need that

[tepid stratus]

Well at least we have a lot of precedent for cities being racist. Godeater's son puts that on blast in spectacular fashion

[pulsar cairn]

Would death guard be offended if they couldnt infect a living thing with any of their plagues?

[reef pagoda]

:D

[pine matrix]

The big man himself, a hero in his own mind

[paper bluff]

The glorious and magnificent summer king!

[paper bluff]

There's a case of a death guard apothecary who's pretty chill about it. He's like "are you sure you wouldn't like some of grandfather's blessings?" And when the no come he just goes "oh no matter. All things in time"

[pulsar cairn]

Interesting

[sour sequoia]

BIG USH LETS GO

[empty siren]

Does this work how I think it works??

For each eligible unit you just attack them? Not even split firing it just resolves 8 attacks for each unit that's eligible???

If so that's insanely funny

[wet grotto]

If your local play group has a lot of horde armies(v unlikely) running 3 of these is funny especially in exp cadre

[empty siren]

100%. Kauyon maybe. Because it's br3 you get sustained hits 1 for your whole army and only sustained hits 2 if they're guided

The sustained hits 1 would be useful. (Don't guide this thing if you're attacking like 4 units, you're hitting on 4s for one thing and on 6s for the rest😭)

I actually plan to run two on them in a 3k list. Because my friend has poxwalkers and because it's funny. Plus they're cool. I love flying fortifications

[sour sequoia]

GSC scoring is wild, even on my losses we’re slammin so many points

[desert jay]

... most Chaos Knights believing that having more than one decent gun is cowardice ...

Much like their Imperial counterparts, the Chaos Knights have been split into two boxes – both of which can build a Knight Desecrator or a Knight Rampager, with one containing a new sprue for the Knight Ruinator while the other can be assembled as a Knight Abominant.

RIP Knight Despoiler?

[thin ibex]

i love me some twin battlecannon knights

[tired cairn]

If it's handled like the regular Knights, it'll be buildable from both boxes. But maybe they will axe it because you can't actually build it from one kit right?

[jaunty dawn]

If you double guns yup

The same gun that s

[rocky shale]

Despoiler builds from the loyalist box

[desert jay]

The Desecrator and Rampager also builds/built from the loyalist box

Or at least IIRC

[tired cairn]

Oh. Right. I guess they are finally splitting the boxes into the chaos variants and Imperial variants then

[desert jay]

Oh no, the Desecrator needed a sprue that wasn't in the common box, it was with the Abominant

[tired cairn]

The most hopeful interpretation is that they are keeping the Knight Despoiler but don't want to say you can make it from the box because it is technically lying

[desert jay]

It's hard to check b/c GW took all the entries down from the store (presumably for reboxing)

[empty siren]

I decided it'd be kinda funny to do 5 strike teams and no breacher for a random 3k list I'm cooking

my reasoning? hehe suppression

(I'm doing mont'ka i want to make as little shots hit as possible)

(im probably gonna swap things to get breachers lol)

[west zealot]

Black Knight chaplains being like Commissars for Kriegers and keeping everyone reasonable is an amusing thought

[west zealot]

"yes, he's a terrible mutant Brother Stabbitus, but consider: Heretics would be a lot harder to get to without his help. And we have so many Heretics to stab today!"

[untold swallow]

This reminds me I made a chapter almost built specifically to piss off the templars

"We fucking love the Emperor too, Brother."

"Let's go, Brother!"

"That's why we love Librarians so much, since He's the most powerful psyker in the universe!"

"...What?"

[cinder wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-me-meme-me-tweaking-gif-4806869717826284567

[mental birch]

Anyone have a stl for heavy arc rifles?

[pine matrix]

Oh shiiiiiiiit!! Salamanders Vs iron warriors??

[main pagoda]

they are so ugly

love them to death

[pastel rampart]

Saturnine terminators my beloved.

[past sphinx]

Officially named saturnine terminators

Suck it luetin!

[jaunty dawn]

Praetor beeg

Theres already so much cope about ‘overlapping plates’ and ‘overly sophisticated designs’ and ‘fan made scifi’

People will literally see anything they want to dislike new thing

[past sphinx]

I'm a little gutchecked by the dreadnought tbh, it all does give me makers cult vibes

But I think a little grunge will sooth that, I've never cared for gw's Sally scheme

[pastel rampart]

So like did this dude grab a random box off the back of a truck or what

[paper bluff]

It is GW themselves

[pastel rampart]

Well we've had a few instances of boxes being mistakenly shipped to people early so I dunno if this is a new instance of that.

We got Dante early because of that.

[past sphinx]

Hes got 2 boxes of it to

Idk there's something sketch as hell

[pastel rampart]

Yeah, photos in a packed car like that makes me think the same.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/9/94/Terminator1989-1.jpg

also since we got Saturnine when are we getting a redo of this stone-cold classic

[past sphinx]

Only a matter of time before their in like a scouring book or something

[paper bluff]

I'd love to see ullanor dived into but I don't think that will happen

[pastel rampart]

https://tortuga-gamestable.top/index.php?route=product/product&path=223_244&product_id=3431 Huh, someone did take a stab at a redesign tho.

[pulsar cairn]

Whats the pink thing?

[pastel rampart]

Flamer.

[pulsar cairn]

ooh

[pastel rampart]

http://puu.sh/KtsaL/09ee52135c.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCVQAdZEMoY

[thin ibex]

you know, lore wise, shouldnt greater daemons be titanic in terms of threat and scale? I know on the tabletop that might be a little unreasonable

but a greater daemon is usually a planetary level threat arent they?

[pastel rampart]

Their size varies.

[tired cairn]

I like how in Space Marine 2 the Lord of Change get smaller when you do a thing. Though I am sad it happens only once and not repeatedly

[glass totem]

i always assumed greater daemons sort of ramp up in power the more the veil of reality between material space and Super Hell breaks down, which is how they get to planetary level as the world itself begins to be pulled in

[pastel rampart]

Yeah, it takes a lot of Warp Juice™️ to get a greater daemon into the material realm in the first place so by that point things are usually pretty bad, so "planetary level threat" is often "we were fubar'd like an hour ago and now THIS thing is here."

[upper canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRj6pjxJR8 @brittle salmon

[pine matrix]

How long has Horus Heresy 2e been out for, anyway? Seems like it's not been that long?

[south axle]

In a different chat I've seen 3 years mentioned

[jaunty dawn]

Yup

[paper bluff]

Not that I know but there is that one huge fat guy

[thin ibex]

in a lot of novels, a single greater daemon is the hinge point for major daemonic incursions

[pine matrix]

Wasn't sure what to do with the tentacles I added, so decided to go for a weird bald look

[hardy harness]

Anyone here down for a game of Wrath & Glory?

Wanna see if I can't get a group together

[junior summit]

https://bsky.app/profile/beijingpalmer.bsky.social/post/3lp32myp7cc2r

BeijingPalmer (@beijingpalmer.bsky.social)

long dialogue with sniggering Inquisitor where she's just 'so would you say you were ... Iron Fisters?' and the Space Marines just keep answering sincerely.

(@lastpositivist.bsky.social)
Omg: just found out that Ferrus Manus, leader of the Iron Hands faction and whose hands were actually made out of iron, had a flagship called... the Fist of Iron.

And yet people deny that Warhammer is art!?!

Bluesky · May 13, 2025, 5:56 PM

Fists

[floral herald]

The Iron Hands going “no the Iron Fists are a glorious successor chapter, why are you laughing”

[empty siren]

Wish me luck

I've been in the sun doing landscaping all day. My skin. It burns 😔

Warhammer player's first time in the sun and doing physical labour

[thin ibex]

iron hands have great space wolf energy

they chose one thing

The Iron Hands leader, Iron Hands, rides the Hand of Irone, likely wields the Iron Hand.

[empty siren]

I should probably look at other chapters

The only few I know a bit about is the Dark Angels and Black Templars. And a bit of white scars

Consecrators, Successor of the Dark Angels, best successor chapter. Deploying their entire chapter without warning for a battle. Literally go all in. Rip and tear until it is done. "For the Lion." 🙏

[topaz hinge]

Just think, once you're back home you can do some landscaping on some bases!

[jaunty dawn]

They also do companies the same way

[thin ibex]

Hmm, so if I'm fighting the WE on tabletop, am I correct in assuming that the game is largely decided in the charge phase and that it's worth my CPs to do everything I can to make them fail charges?

[soft willow]

What do you have strat wise that makes your opponent fail charges?

[thin ibex]

Uhh that depends on what faction and Detachment I ultimately pick 👀

Rn planning to play hypercrypt necrons

Was considering playing aspect warriors Aeldari

[tired cairn]

Foiling charges will definitely make them sad. Though my limited understanding of good WE play is they like to lurk near objectives behind the cover of buildings so they can win trades over objectives

[sour sequoia]

Codex or Index

Codex WE actually has nasty shooting pressure on forgefiends and vehicles now

But they’re still especially dependent on zerker bricks and characters pumping em

Try to bubble wrap with scarab screens and wraiths, blood surge is nasty work and they can turn on a 6” consolidation move so your spacing for them is very different than other armies

[thin ibex]

I'm gonna use a monolith to screen

[thin ibex]

but also yeah, bubble wrapping seems good

i must offer them blood sacrifices so that i can shoot them at least one more round

Actually, thoughts on this? Not lookign to be hyper competetive, but definitely could still be improved, will be my first time necronning it up

I'm thinking maybe the second 10 man warrior squad could bounce?

also not sure if i wanted a mountain of dice from tesla or lots of lethals from gauss

[sour sequoia]

Min skorps without a lord and min warriors aren’t gonna do a whole lot

I generally prefer nightbringer to void dragon but both work

Tomb blades are super sick buuuuut I think you get more out of ophydians if you’re not running starshatter arsenal

Orikan brick also isn’t strictly as worth outside Awakened Dynasty, you can grab like. Deathmark scoring squads or put the wraiths up to max. Those guys hold center like almost nothing else, only thing tougher is the full orikan brick in Awakened Dynasty

One advantage maybe is that in HCL you can run the full skorp + lord brick, keeping it off board to stop it from getting shot to pieces

[thin ibex]

my thought was to move the warrior brick around using hypercrypt teleports or the monolith; could swap skorpeks for ophydians for better synergy with hypercrpt, but i figure i wanted at least one meaty melle chunk; guessing the skorpekhs dont really take hits all that well

hmm so drop necron warrior 10 man, I think i wanna keep at least the big 20 man brick for posterity (I know its ill advised but thats a 'I'm gonna do it anywy' situation)

[sour sequoia]

Absolutely not they die like dogs on crackback or shooting, and their bases are so damn big that a full unit + lord does not fit inside any WTC ruin

but! The HCL strat is a huge brick that drops out Eternity Gate on Monolith go turn, and you burn 2CP to charge immediately. At point blank

[thin ibex]

Might not be playing WTC as a note, some combats will be on more narratively driven/casual boards; which should be a consideration

which might also mean at times even worse mobility for the skropekhs...

[sour sequoia]

Gotcha. The point still stands they’re huge as fuck, but if it ain’t wtc I can’t exactly calibrate for your store’s terrain 😛

[thin ibex]

this is all gonna be on TTS, so gonna be some jank for sure

General bones of what I've built makes sense tho? Barring less advisable decision making?

I know my opponents in the league will include Daemons (Tzeentch themed), World Eaters, Space Wolves, Possible Votann (Highest skill player), Orks or BT or Librarius conclave SM, Tau Montka

So potentiall 3 melee oriented lists

the player trying to decide between orks and BT is looking at either bully boys or a horde melee BT list

their librarius list is hard into hellblaster spam

[sour sequoia]

I’d fuck with Arisen Tyrant on the plasmancer more than osteoclave

Osteoclave is great on like, wraiths so you can just pick em up and drop em in midfield

Dimensional Overseer on the hexmark is near mandatory unfortunately

2 units uppy downy is Not Enough to press advantage

[thin ibex]

hmm, am I only trying to get the benefit on the immortal squad one time? No need to give em deep strike to get more than one shoot turn?

[sour sequoia]

Nah, you just uppy downy em near board edges with sight lines repeatedly

Or pull em with the monolith

[thin ibex]

aaahhh that makes sense

ok so i can drop fulcrum on that guy, could keep it on the overlord since im comboing up on the immortals with the plasmancer + overlord on that squad

keep arisen i mean

on the overlord

[sour sequoia]

5+ Sustained hits 2 and full rerolling hits + wound you basically just drown stuff in volume, they start punching into tanks at that point

[thin ibex]

put dimensional overseer on the hexmark

[sour sequoia]

Kill terminators piece of cake

[thin ibex]

i think drop the 10 man necron squad and get a skorpekh lord to add tot he skorpekhs (I like the models, mostly, might as well invest in them killing stuff)

orikan joins hte blob, technomancer joins the wraiths, overlord and plasmancer on the immortals, skorpekh lord joins the skorpekhs

If the terrain sucks for my skorpekhs, they eat a bit of shit

but they're cool looking beefy bois with phase blades

[thin ibex]

hope is to just drop in and nuke the crap out of an important unit with a bajillion shots

[sour sequoia]

Exactly. Kill scoring units first and foremost, but there’s no swarms that survive them

Elves crumple to em especially since even their tough infantry is t3-4

[thin ibex]

i figure i want to delete whichever mob of zerkers/terminators/crusaders/boys are trying to hard contest an objective

[sour sequoia]

Yup

[thin ibex]

my void dragon over nightbringer is mostly because at least one opponent love tanks specifically, so i figure nice to have some anti vehicle; the monolith i hope to just use as a gian sore thorn in their side

hopefully use its raw size to make movement weird for my enemy

and trust that its so tough that nothing kills it easy

[meager quail]

Barbie: immortal, good at everything, extremely tall …

[sour sequoia]

Monolith deceptively easy to pick up if you’re not stocking CP for the invuln strat, especially vs marines level melee

[thin ibex]

hmm, goot to know

[sour sequoia]

Its guns are great, always run death rays

And its melee is also actually. Quite good.

[thin ibex]

yeah ,i wanted gauss cause they're cool, but i need the death rays

and the particle whip will clear infantry appreciably

[sour sequoia]

The biggest monolith threat is blocking a lane and dropping 8OC outta nowhere, then dropping a kill unit out or yanking something out from melee across the map

[meager quail]

Barbie was a space marine all along

[thin ibex]

What are some simple things that I'm likely to misplay or forget as first time necroner?

[paper bluff]

Immortals are not as tough as you would think

Remember your vehicles heal and some don't have the weaken profile

Don't get focus fired

[sour sequoia]

Everything short of warrior bricks w/ support, ctan, full wraith bricks, and max sword n board lychguard is squishier than you’d guess. Play careful with em so that reanimation matters

[past sphinx]

Wip space wizard

[paper bluff]

Oh and this is a bit "the art of war" but remember your strats and use them

[mental birch]

Like all games ifs acrially decided in the movement phase

[sour sequoia]

4th game on genestealers into that dragon, Plague Legion. screaming crying throwing up etc etc but actually fairly close till the end - came down to secret missions and trying to kill the last three plaguebearers. Much more staying power than I expected outta a ton of 5+ saves and cultist shotguns.

Game ultimately came out to protecting ridgerunners I think, which I failed to quite manage. If I’d preserved one or both then the crossfire buffs & extra mining laser would have me picking up greater daemons much easier.

Scored both on Teams and WTC since we’re practicing for a teams tourney in June, Host of Ascension genestealers shaping up to be the team’s double duty knight-guilliman-elf puncher

[west zealot]

They're hear to chew bubble gum, overthrow throw the imperium, and nom the space elves. They're all outta gum

(and now I have a mental image of a bunch of genestealer cultists dressed up as stereotypical greasers, complete with one blowing bubbles in gum)

[sour sequoia]

We got a whole detachment for that, do it

[empty siren]

I have to spend so much money. I made a 3k list that just looks expensive

I need two hammerheads, two broadsides, four crisis suits, another transport, and two more piranhas. Just to complete my armoured units

However

I'm happy with the list. I need to use it in TTS to test 'er out. I got enough anti tank I think

[thin ibex]

my favored subfaction for genestealers are the rustclaw ones

big biker vibes

Two hammerheads with rails is very good at making important enemy armor vanish in one round of shooting

Warhammer book readers, what are the novels I should be looking at for the whole siege of terra saga?

[glass totem]

The Solar War, Lost and the Damned, Echoes of Eternity and the First Wall off the top of my head

+the three parts of the End and the Death

that isn't exhaustive, though, there's a list on Lexicanum thats indepth if you want all of them

[main pagoda]

depends if you want the final battles pre siege or not, if not you have the whole siege series that covers just about everything

if you want the pre siege stuff, buried dagger, titian death and slaves to darkness cover that

[thin ibex]

dang thats a lot of books, but also yeah im looking for the whole saga; I stepped away from heresy books largely because it felt like they were dragging their feet, but now they've actually gotten through that part of hte heresy and i hear its quite good

[main pagoda]

For the heresy series, I think only the first 3 are required reading then you can just pick and choose

[pulsar cairn]

His name is Kevin

[past sphinx]

Koloc Charnelgore but thats close enough

[sonic hare]

very nice

[paper bluff]

Now you fully know the hobby lol

[past sphinx]

tau models have some vintage to them, i used to pick up hammerheads for like 25 a pop on ebay, just keep an eye out

[thin ibex]

Tau lines have stood the test of time better than many models I have to say

[past sphinx]

the stock tau infantry are pretty bulletproof

[empty siren]

Oh there's a ton of Fenris workshop for like less than 50cad. Definitely getting those

Second hand too. decided fuck it, my army lore is a mish mash of a buncha stuff. Basically a renegade fleet made of renegades

Prepainted models? Army lore accurate. Don't need to worry

[past sphinx]

all my hammer heads had Guevesa graffiti and battle damage, go buck wild

[thin ibex]

Someone sell me on the ion canon hammerhead. I can't imagine bringing a hammerhead without bringing the rail, because the tau have plenty of general strength firepower

[empty siren]

I decided on two hammer heads and a unit of Broadsides equipped with rail cannons. Plus piranhas. Plus devilfish with seekers. I have anti tank for days

I LOVE broadsides! I'm running two units of two. One with rails the other with high yield. Running Mont'ka. Saying fuck it, overwhelming firepower

Elites? Dead. Armour? Dead. Small infantry? Mmm breachers with Fireblades in Devilfish and yummy burst cannons and flamers (with farsight because I wanna wound and free overwatch :D)

[finite compass]

Past the first three, I'd recommend The First Heretic both because shameless WB stan, and it's basically the prequel to everything else.

[pastel rampart]

https://youtu.be/LF5ll5uWcO0?si=NVMbcL14GkU5-mRC

[empty siren]

I think I pissed off the Omnissiah

Everything I touch falls apart. Weed whacker falls apart. Another weed whacker just straight up doesn't start. First lawn mower works then just gives up entirely, wheel falls off THREE TIMES. Use the shitty one. It also decides to stop working dunno why literally just stops

[soft willow]

You had better burn some incense and say the litany against failure three times.

Afterwards clean and oil the Weed whacker, to appease it's machine spirit.

Then give thanks to the Omnissiah for five minutes precisely (To the microsecond no more no less.) and begin your task again.

[empty siren]

I actually planned on doing that

Gonna sit down at my computer, light some incense, and just apologize profusely to the Omnissiah

I'm buying a fucking censer

Keeping it in my car. Something goes wrong, I'm pulling that bad boy out

I was gonna do some painting but my arms are shaking so much😭😭😭, no way I'm holding a brush straight

[jaunty dawn]

Ooof

You okay?

[empty siren]

Oh yeah I'm doing great actually

I genuinely love yard work

It's fun. It's tough. I get in the sun a lot. Like, long days sure, but, I feel great :)

It's like getting paid a lot to do chores and work out. 20 dollars an hour just to mow lawns and get fresh air and sunlight? Sign me up. My hobby is expensive and time consuming I need both cash AND sunlight

[rocky shale]

The imperial agents discord is full of some real ones

People who love playing the objectively worse faction

[soft willow]

Are they still the lowest win rate?

[rocky shale]

I think so

Their army rule still does nothing if you are actually playing IA and not using them as allies

[sour sequoia]

There’s been one singular imperial agents 5-0 since their creation

[rocky shale]

The faction plays in really cool ways but you're basically legally obligated to take some mixture of armiger allies and deathwatch kill teams with hammers to have any hope of killing a single tank

[soft willow]

Partially true.

There are a few tricks that get you there, but you're not a great anti-tank army.

[rocky shale]

You get a shitload of deployment tricks, surprisingly durable chaff, and cool specialists, but most of your army hits like a wet blanket

Giving DWKT hammers lance in the fleet detachment can do some work, but if your only anti tank is marines in melee, you're in a rough spot

Honestly if the fleet detachment rule was the army rule, and the fleet detachment got like orbital bombardments or something we'd be cooking

Maybe let them ally in a leman russ or something

[soft willow]

Demolishers.

[rocky shale]

190 points for a S14 weapon, lascannon, and 2 plasma cannons sign me up

I love a good knight but 140 points for armiger warglaives waving around thermal spears cant be a faction's whole AT package

Hell I'd even consider just SoB Dominions for 4 meltas per squad vs 2 for what agents get otherwise.

[past sphinx]

Demon prince Panasonic after 2 years wasn't fucking useless and managed to kill something

A blood thirster no less

[thin ibex]

After playing some games in general, and looking at guard tanks, honestly the basic leman russ is high quality for general purpose armor

I always look at the variants for what I want

But the standard russ has a good special rule and decent gun. Ap being only -1 hurts, but otherwise pretty solid

[floral herald]

It’s honestly so weird it’s AP -1 to me

I’m so used to it being an AP3 MEQ eliminator

[thin ibex]

If I had to guess. It's cause if it was AP 2 it very much might jump immediately to the best leman russ gun available, what with having d6+3 attacks, blast, damage 3 and reroll 1's/rerolls against guys on objectives

[empty siren]

Omg I got a pretty dope deal

I'm so happy. 250 bucks plus shipping for like, a solid amount of the pieces + extra I'll need for my list

All 3d printed but honestly a good deal. Buncha Crisis suits, characters, vehicles, infantry- really a whole lot. Not a lot of small pieces on the models either so I'm not worried about things breaking. Yaaay! Today went from pretty shit to really good :)

The Tau army grows. But the Omnissiah is further displeased

[west zealot]

I refuse to give games workshop money (On account of being very poor and having nowhere to store shit anyway)

[glass totem]

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thirteenth son of Jimmy Space

[uneven ember]

Bobby G

[sweet solar]

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[tired cairn]

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[tired cairn]

Warhound Titans are primarily designed to perform reconnaissance missions and terror raids deep behind enemy lines. As the eyes and ears of the Legion they typically range far ahead of the main battlegroup and operate in pairs in order to outmaneuver larger Titans they might encounter.
So like, do none of the various Imperial forces work together (except perhaps the Navy and Guard grudgingly), and so Titan legions need their own scout units. And all they know is Titans?

[pastel rampart]

The imperial forces are by design broken up and more or less lead themselves. Certain imperial commands can requisition aid, but very few can get total command of something and force the issue.

[floral herald]

Titan Legions don’t share a command structure with the guard or space marines until you get to the Emperor so

Yeah essentially

They do use Skitarii for recon as well

But they’re too slow to keep up without a lot of mounts

[pastel rampart]

An Inquisitor or a Primarch could take command if they wanted to, but that's stepping on some toes.

[tired cairn]

Being at the Emperor level before a common command is pretty wild

[jaunty dawn]

Theyre basically like

Seperate countries

With no joint command organisation

[tired cairn]

... is that the way the Imperial Navy and Guard work too? And so they fight with each other a bunch when it comes to moving said Guard places?

[main pagoda]

Imperial guard and imperial navy fuction much like the irl navies and armies of the world

they are two seperate branches of the same overarching military

[jaunty dawn]

Nope

Not since the heresy era imperial army

[tired cairn]

The drill bits probably aren't great at scouting missions either (I don't know if lorewise the WWII-style hover landers existed in 30k or not)

[jaunty dawn]

The imperium is too paranoid

[main pagoda]

They take orders from sector commanders

[jaunty dawn]

Which is people in charge of like several solar systems

Irl militaries have joint command at like, a battlegroup level

Which is several orders of magnitude apart

[main pagoda]

the imperium also has this with Lord Solar and other lord marshalls whenever there are crusades

[tired cairn]

Sometimes I think the Imperium is doing a lot better than it has any right to lol

[main pagoda]

it is basically the definition of too big to fail

[tired cairn]

Too big to fail (quickly)

Though, it probably helps that their opponents all have their own terribly designed institutions

[jaunty dawn]

Pretty much

Sensible organisation is anathema to their biggest enemy and theyre still losing overall

[floral herald]

No they thankfully link up at the Departmento Munitorum level a few notches before the High Lords

[thin ibex]

that doesnt stop them from posturing and conflicting with each other of course

because paranoia is deeply engrained

if anyone does too well they get x'd out

iirc wasnt macharius assassinated by the imperium? Or is that uncomfirmed?

[bright dove]

Unconfirmed iirc

There's the old Dark Heresy stuff about how the Calixis sector was founded which is funny

Long story short, Imperial Crusade is led by a nepo hire that is causing this to be a dragged out meatgrinder

[junior robin]

acording to lexicanum is it confirmed

[bright dove]

And then he mysteriously dies on the battlefield, and this normal soldier named Drusus takes over

Who definitely didn't assassinate the former Crusade leader, no sir

Anywho, Saint Drusus conquers the Calixis sector

[floral herald]

Remember all yee faithful saint Drusus says “always frag your officers if they’re incompetent, incompetence is spitting in the eye of the god-emperor”

[bright dove]

Remember kids: It's not heretical treason if it gets enough results

[pulsar cairn]

Thats funny

[meager quail]

please tell me these are parody

[tired cairn]

Yes lol

[paper bluff]

catachans are also know for fragging comissars

[pastel rampart]

https://youtu.be/j697Dl33hUM?si=68CCU0iqFyk9Mazd

[west zealot]

What do you mean, Caste systems with Eugenics totally work well... Hang on, I'm being handed a note here

[glass totem]

personally i see no problem in a disunited mess of squabbling dynasties, ruled by lords who are either insane or who will be thanks to the degradation of their personality engrams and various "diseases"

what could the issue be

hold on, i'm also getting a note

[thin ibex]

it really touches on the thematic connection between the imprium and the HRE

as far as the lack of unity in it

unless i misread and you're talking about necrons

[glass totem]

Necrons, yeah, as a sort of followon to the tau joke

although it does oddly fit the imperium lmao

[thin ibex]

I somewhat liked the implacable, mysterious, unkillable metal men. But I also think the direction they took them was so much more fertile for interesting characters

[glass totem]

Oh yeah, totally

Space Terminators are cool to a point

but for unknowable cosmic threat we also had the Tyranids

[glass totem]

i need another Zahndrekh book

when the necrons get books, they nearly always really slap, and I like him the most out of the named character roster

[thin ibex]

Yeah necron books are surprisingly consistent winners

[jaunty dawn]

Universe where necrons still dont talk to people but we do get their interiority

[thin ibex]

I haven't read the silent king ones yet though, thoughts on those?

[glass totem]

I am also awaiting Mechanicus II, playable necrons outside of DOW I is the dream

I also have not read the silent king books sadly

I've been meaning to, but backlog of stuff keeps getting in the way

[glass totem]

(+Battlefleet Gothic and Gladius, tbf)

[glass totem]

the poor mechanicus adept trying to figure out what the fuck the new breed of metallic xenos is up to

[west zealot]

It gave us Trazyn, and when he's written well he's incredibly compelling

[uneven ember]

I want to stress that this isn't just moving Guard places
the Aeronautica Imperialis are Imperial Navy
which includes Valkyries and Vendettas; the air transports are actually a whole different service branch who are detached and assigned to Guard regiments

[floral herald]

For me Iz seez no problems wiv the biggest and meanest running da show

‘Old on I’m getting a zoggin note

It just sez “green iz best”

[thin ibex]

orks giving the emperor wholehearted endorsements for leading the imperium

because hes the biggest meanest humie git

[jaunty dawn]

In practice this isnt true for the airmobile regiments that actually use them, but it does mean other regiments cant really access airmobility very easily yeah

[desert jay]

Squabbling on if Titans count or not when they hear about the level of pilot integration they have

[past sphinx]

getting real into the weeds because some titans are big enough to technically operate in airspace

[jaunty dawn]

If gazghkull counts titans must surely

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJt01SHtGsx/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

thedaemonforge

Leviathan pattern Ballistus Dreadnought complete! This is the battle brother of the Vengeance Pattern Redemptor Dreadnought completed recently and he’s keen to blast all enemies of the Lion.

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[past sphinx]

tiny ass missiles

[empty siren]

Mmmm

Missiles

God I am just so happy. Buncha 3d printed models. Ton of pts

Covered like a huge amount of the models I needed

Hehehe. Tau go brrrt

[past sphinx]

pipermakes does good work

[west zealot]

Within five minutes, the orc camp exploded due to a dispute on who was greenest

[empty siren]

My friend runs a bunch of cavalry in AOS. I am doing skaven shooty

Just found this

Not gonna run it because I'd just be list tailoring but damn

I just don't wanna be a meanie :(
It's flying cavalry vs skaven shooty. He already can't hide😭

[sour sequoia]

If it makes you feel better, ratling guns have equivalent expected damage value as warpvolt scourgers into everything except cavalry on a galvaneer’s supercharge turn

[empty siren]

I have a dumb theory that probably people have thought about before

The factions of Warhammer (not AOS, or Fantasy), feels like how humanity would react to total grim dark

I usually just think of each faction through a human lens though so that's prolly why

I just realized I sound crazy and this doesn't make sense. Ignore me

[empty siren]

Genuinely so happy about this lot, my army is like almost complete and I only spent 281 (250+shipping) on it all :D

[pastel rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BorUkGD33w

[pastel rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396806074461585411/1373347497300332544/IMG_6956.jpg?ex=682a1506&is=6828c386&hm=1aaf9c364b9f3a07564e3a16a9dd69cbc15450cfa313723d308fa4006763c16c&

[west zealot]

The guy on the left is all you seeing this? What are you even doing

[past sphinx]

the most important part of painting csm terminators is making sure the trophy helmets are yellow

[pulsar cairn]

Do we have any info of how long you need to serve in the astra militarum before ur allowed to retire?

I heard that it happens sometimes

[past sphinx]

you serve until the imperium has destroyed the threats to mankind

or until a world needs some colonist's after being blasted to hell

[pulsar cairn]

What about commissars?

[past sphinx]

commissars can retire out from old age

cain did it and a kreig comissar nearly did

""""retire""" until needed

[jaunty dawn]

I think you can usually retire on a world if there's a successful campaign there

because then your duty to the emperor is to have pious babies to rebuild the population lol

[pastel rampart]

How long you serve before retiring is wildly dependent on what regiment you're serving in, probably.

If you're in a penal legion, lol, lmao.

[pulsar cairn]

Krieg also dont retire i imagine

[past sphinx]

hey i think those boys that closed a warp portal got to retire posthumously

[pastel rampart]

Most guardsmen actively serving never see retirement because they'll be moved from one mission to the next until they die. However, if they rise up in ranks to a commander position they can usually retire.

[pulsar cairn]

[pastel rampart]

If you're a guardsman on a planet that sees little to no combat and never gets called offworld, yeah you can probably retire after whatever is the minimum time to serve. This is shockingly rare though.

[pulsar cairn]

I can imagine

Since there's only war

[pastel rampart]

Yeah.

Retirement was considered an option and more common during the Great Crusade, if only because there was a lot more support and the imperial forces weren't scattered all over the place.

[pulsar cairn]

I also imagine that with the emperor around the Imperium actually functioned

I could be wrong

[past sphinx]

define functioned

[west zealot]

Even then, "retirement" is you're moved off the Frontlines (in theory) and in to a teaching/advisory/if it all goes to shit we're reenlisting you position

So it's retirement but the standards of what you were doing previously, but not actually retirement as we understand it

(this is using Cain as an example).

I also expect your level of connections and political acumen matters a lot

Lot easier for a general/admiral with deep pockets to retire than bob, random guardsman #3

[floral herald]

They’re actually allowed (required) but there’s strong social pressure to die in the line of duty

So Kriegers near the end of their terms fight fanatically to boost the odds they don’t make it

[west zealot]

Krieg: one of the few times the imperium gets near "are we the baddies?"

(then they yell for the emperor and make some more Kriegers)

[spice flicker]

Would it be smart or fun to run an army for a crusade that consists solely of Bjorn and his dreadnought buddies aka oops all dreadnoughts.

[runic swallow]

Oh, all dreadnaught armies of various stripes have been run for years

[desert jay]

I thought you wanted at least a techmarine or two

[spice flicker]

This is my initial thought for 1k. If I am wanting to do purely dreadnoughts for this crusade force, do you think it'd break the spirit of the list to include invictors?

[runic swallow]

Usually it wasn’t full-full dreadnaughts either due to force org stuff or competitiveness, but it was often pretty close

Iirc 30k had a whole force org for just doing dreadnaughts

[sour sequoia]

I think its an Iron Hands thing

[mental birch]

It's banned in polite company

So is the White Scars infantry list

One of the scariest lists in 30k weirdly

[mental birch]

This as katchapron breachers

Too wargames exclusive brained?

[jaunty dawn]

I dig it :)

[pulsar cairn]

looks like some dark mechanicum stuff

[mental birch]

Yeee

Idea is cyborg snake girl

[pulsar cairn]

@cinder wraith did u make that?

[cinder wraith]

yes

[pulsar cairn]

It looks so good! I love it

[untold swallow]

corrupted templar?

[cinder wraith]

yes

[untold swallow]

eyyy I'm

not blind

XD

[cinder wraith]

murdercursed templar with a bloodthirster possessing him

[untold swallow]

nice

[cinder wraith]

slaughterbound

[untold swallow]

man I rly wanna get models to make a killteam

[thin ibex]

looks like grey hunters wont have any special weapons, but will be OC 3

and come with bolt carbines AND chainswords

[jaunty dawn]

Makes sense

[thin ibex]

i wonder if they're also keeping the fallback/shoot/charge

[past sphinx]

WE KEEP THE VEN DREADS BABY!

[spice flicker]

Lascannons, autocannons, or missile launchers for havocs?

[floral herald]

Lascannons imo

They have a lot of cheap fragile AT with them

But they can live longer if you build them for midrange infantry mulching

[spice flicker]

Thanks

[past sphinx]

theres little reason to not slap a las cannon in legionaries and havocs

[past sphinx]

meltas arent as reliable in the strength department, heavy bolters are mid, the gatling is just kinda okay, missile launchers sadly aint worth s9 and tragedy is the plasma gun just not being that useful in a no pts on wargear edition

and 2 shots on autocannons at s9 is just terrible

and ap 1 at that

[thin ibex]

i like autocannons personally, but do they have proper autos or the kind that termies get

tbh, str 9 on the auto's is more workable than it at first seems

you kinda have to get a number of 10th games under your belt before the stength levels kind of make sense

I also think the gatlings area actually really solid for sweeping objective holding battleline units

which are usually what end up winning games

[rocky shale]

S10 is a pretty huge breakpoint for actual tough vehicles but S9 is great into any annoying mid toughness stuff

[thin ibex]

There's a fair few of em too. Gravis armored models, kataphrons, a lot of ork things, most transports are T9

There are a lot of T6-T9 things that are usually worth shooting

I also generally like damage 3 stuff for terminators and similar, so that if one attack goes through, the Terminator just goes away

There are often sweet spots where if you have volume of fire for auto's they're a little bit anti everything

Lascannons are undoubtedly better at killing armor though

[pastel rampart]

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[thin ibex]

str 9 all day

chukka chukka

[still warren]

Yoooo Dark Heresy confirmed (jpeg name was WHDH_Skulls_3_days_left_)

[sonic hare]

what do you use to make these

[thin ibex]

I use a web app called New Recruit, then I screenshot one of the export options

[sonic hare]

thanks

[sour sequoia]

40 of 60 neophytes basecoated

We are DEEP in the mines brother

[dense sedge]

Hello fellow insurgent

[thin ibex]

Weird question, but if a unit of charging models with impact mortals, like say Kroot Rampagers, hit and they do a lot of wounds, is it possible for the opponent to remove enough models to make the rampagers no longer in combat when the fight phase starts?

Because the check for engagement comes after the fight phase begins right? But also the rampagers did successfully charge

[brittle salmon]

Unless it's an extreme circumstance, no, because a unit can also Fight if it made a Charge move that turn, not just if it's within Engagement range

and the 3" Pile In move from being picked to Fight would almost certainly be enough to get them back into Engagement

[thin ibex]

Ok thank you that was something that occurred to me when dealing with like multi wound impacts against a horde just erasing the front line

I guess at best they can kind of slightly control what direction the models have to pile in?

[empty siren]

Hey does anyone play or have played against the Soulblight Gravelords in AOS?

I'm curious what they're like

[floral herald]

I don't play a lot of AoS but I do have some of them

They're kinda a classic high-low mix army

You've got hordes of cheap skellies and zombies backed up by really nasty expensive knights and monsters

[empty siren]

I was checking out their rules and it looks like a lot of reinforcing and healing and combat

It seems kinda cool

I wanna do the Ossiarch bonereapers because they sound kinda cool. Downside is just looking at their models, YIKES, it looks like a pain to paint. Same with the Night haunt

Nighthaunt look easy to paint

[tepid stratus]

Fortunately they take really well to drybrushing

[floral herald]

Yeah ossiarch aren't that bad imo

[tepid stratus]

Easier than nighthaunt IMO

[thin ibex]

Ossiarchs feel like elite undead when I was snooping em

But maybe I was looking at like a specific build type

[tepid stratus]

Hi resident soulblight main. Boy do you have options. You can do well rounded lists with chaff and hammers. Oops all vampires elite builds, absolute meat grinder skeleton builds that puke debuffs or go into neat caster heavy tech builds

[tepid stratus]

They can be and definitely lean that way when you aren't running the undead roman legion infantry spam

But most of your tech pieces as ossiarchs are big expensive dudes so elite comes pretty easily

[pastel rampart]

Ossiarchs are mostly bone so if you hit it with a bone basecoat (easy with rattlecans/airbrush) and then go with a brown oil wash or the classic "dip" method, you're like 70% done.

[tepid stratus]

Yeah, base coat, wash, drybrush is actually as easy as it sounds with ossiarchs

Unlike nighthaunt that have a surprisingly high ceiling to looking good and soulblight that just has a lot of variety of stuff to paint so can't be hammered out as easily

FEC is also pretty easy to paint but you can really go crazy with them

[pastel rampart]

The ol' "dip" method, for those who don't know; largely outdated as a method thanks to oil washes getting better results and foundation paints no longer being a thing, but I think it's still viable.

I saw plenty of skeleton hordes for VC being done this way and when you're doing like 100 bone boys this massively cuts down on time. Won't win any awards but it'll look decent enough and importantly gets painted models on the board.

[tepid stratus]

Army painter still sells washes by the can for this

[pastel rampart]

Yeah but wood stainer is way cheaper.

Those AP cans don't match the washes either, they're different tones. Or at least last I checked.

[tepid stratus]

Yeah because the cans still use the old wash formula

[pastel rampart]

Nah even then they were different. It was something people noticed.

http://puu.sh/KtPdu/4e30c6d83a.jpg

But like, Home Depot sells this shit for 8 bux a pop and AP is $35. Massive price difference for what's essentially the same product.

[past sphinx]

THE ANCIENT TEXTS OF THE DIP

I FIGHT FOR THE HOLY CHURCH OF BURNT UMBER FLOOR STAIN

[pastel rampart]

I'm very much a proponent of "paint to whatever level you're comfortable with" and didn't think dip was bad, like some elitist pricks liked to do. If it got the models done and the person was happy, who cares?

Contrast paints are just another QOL method too, that shit slaps.

[past sphinx]

got some yellow contrast for golds and that shit slaps over white for yellows

no more fucking about with whatever

paint it bone and slather

[thin ibex]

oh is this a vali way to to rock em? Big blocks of resilient infantry and maybe one or two big doer pieces?

[empty siren]

I made some lore for my army because i wanted a reason to justify why I'm doing a vibrant color scheme

Vibrant colours are easier to spot. It's so it's easier to recover or identify the corpses of their comrades

The army is made up of people who defected or were banished. They all believe the only way to redeem themselves for the Greater Good, is by dying in battle, helping people.

I like my army. I like making lore for my silly army men

[past sphinx]

Landsknechte tau

[sour sequoia]

Good news for death guard players

Your faction isn’t slow anymore

Mortarion’s new aura is absurd

[tepid stratus]

Yeah man, 3x20 mortek guard with a harvester or two. Toss on your choice of heroes (usually katakros or boneshapers) and then add whatever hammer pieces you want from there. They even added a new spell lore and battle formation built around buffing infantry blocks

[sour sequoia]

Morghast harbingers are extremely good hammers, 3d6 flying charge means they can often sit behind your infantry and scare the hell outta anybody else stepping up

[west zealot]

Morty's new approach: mainlining caffeine into all the plague Marines

Little nurglings in barista outfits, making them all coffee

[sour sequoia]

Keeping my salt to a minimum but I really don’t think ‘all my guys reactive move and Fights First’ is the death guard archetype lmfao

[hard whale]

They got so slow and tough they underflowed into a finesse army

[junior robin]

oh god they finally did it, the emperor's pointy sticks primaris lieutenant!

[still warren]

New Hag witch model for old world or Mother Ostyanka or whatever her name is for the Kislev reveal

[thin ibex]

Primaris lieutenant fork

[junior robin]

huge snake tongue for iron snakes chapter master

[tardy vault]

meanwhile the AoS article leaked multiple new IDK models lmao

Got a new foot hero in the bottom left, and then two new models on the left (my bet is manifestations but people are arguing the bit water dude in the front is a monster)

[mental birch]

I need more sky dwarves

Give me a big daddy unit

[pastel rampart]

More fire dwarves too, they rather desperately need either new units or a line refresh.

[tardy vault]

Also, that's some interesting Drukhai infantry there Mr GW

[jaunty dawn]

Ooh shit

They look neat

[tardy vault]

Like, those helmets don't exist right?

they're not some kitbash nonsense

[jaunty dawn]

Um

[floral herald]

There’s similar wych helmets but they don’t have the back

[jaunty dawn]

I think it might be the reaver helmet

Seen on the left

[floral herald]

Oh too slow

[tardy vault]

yeah...

damn

[jaunty dawn]

Really cool looking army though

[unreal cosmos]

Yeah that's a fun motif

Speaking of heads, anyone have suggestions for lady Space Wolves?

[pastel rampart]

Stormcast ones should work.

[thin ibex]

blood claws and land raiders, match made in heaven

[empty siren]

Stormcast stuff usually fits space marine models

They are just Sigmarines

[past sphinx]

man i was so dissapointed in stormcast when they first dropped

and then it took a fucking dogs age to get proper cities of sigmar

it genuinely felt like they completely ran out of ideas

after a solid decade ive really come around on a lot of AoS designs but man there as a misstep

[junior robin]

the female votann heads looks good on marines

[empty siren]

Oh I just had a thought

Blood Angels kitbashed with Soulblight Gravelords

Mostly just the heads

Looking at the models of Gravelords. Yeah maybe not

The female vampire lord model if you trim the hair could work

They are too small damn😔

[jaunty dawn]

i find stormcast heads too small tbh

theyre more realistically proportioned

space wolf heads is tricky honestlyyy

[sour sequoia]

Maybe peep some Conquest models

They’re bigger by default but that means stuff can be fairly in line with doofy ass 40k scale

[pulsar cairn]

ya think i could get something good out of the mechanicum if i gave them some kind of Linux?

[sour sequoia]

Not an STC, you better believe that’s a Servitor-in’

[pulsar cairn]

[unreal cosmos]

I was pondering that...

[pastel rampart]

https://i.imgur.com/bDHPJ2E.jpg

[thin ibex]

My army for this season of the small online 40k league im in

hmm, which army do we think would be best for raw volume of attacks, shooting and melee? Wanna try making a "for the joy of the click clack" list

that is only optimized for raw volume of shots/attacks and nothing else

[jaunty dawn]

Orks

Always

[thin ibex]

hmm ok, ill build something out and then workshop from there

have been thinking about the newer players im playing with who just love rolling dice

[sonic hare]

which guns are u using on the warriors

[thin ibex]

the flayers, i know the reapers are generally considered vastly superior, but big shrug, i want the range

kinda sad i couldnt find room for a doomsday ark

but with a monolith and ctan i didn't want too many single entities

[sour sequoia]

For hybrid it’d have to be orks, if you’re good being 80% shooting then guard and GSC can do stupid stuff

[empty siren]

I'm loving the look of Tyranids for the next army I build

God save my bank account but damn, Invasion Fleet is insane

I might run two Mawlocs. My reason? Predatory imperative on top of their deepstrike

"give these fuckers precision on Crits on top of whatever nonsense I chose (sustained hits 1 or lethal hits) at the start of the battle."

Imagine they fail a battleshock and they have to stair up in horror as two Mawlocs sprints
towards them. Unable to use any stratagems to save their lives

[paper bluff]

I truly love the monolith, truly I do, but I don't don't think it's as impactful as it could be at it's cost

[thin ibex]

It seems like it'll be fun for shenanigans in the hypercrypt legion

[sour sequoia]

If you're in hypercrypt it's still good, the monolith can do things nothing else can do in the game

like vomit the skorpekhs directly into melee

yank warriors across the map out of melee etc

[west zealot]

Overflow errors are a common problem when you're chaos

[west zealot]

I mean, stormcast make sense for what they were aiming at - Big, chunky easy to paint modules. I dunno how succseful tehy actually were, but the logic was sound even if i get why plasyers didnt like it

[paper bluff]

You know, I've been thinking about it. What is it with the brainboyz that caused the krork to devolve? A tapping in of the network? A critical mass like the grave mind?

[past sphinx]

They have exactly the same sheen as the first wave of primaris for good or ill for what I suspect is exactly the same reasons

[past sphinx]

They ate all of them

[paper bluff]

Yoy talking about the RC lore with the intelligent grots?

Eating up all the smarts mushrooms

[west zealot]

The main cause seems to be the lack of War - Orcs respond to war, and presuambly the current state of the galaxy just isnt enough to trigger The Krork.

The brainboy stuff is a possibltiy, but its' a big rumor in universe iirc - there's no hard proof that snotlings or grots were The Old Ones, though there's some proof that Grots used to be more of a command role

[floral herald]

No one at the top modulating their psychic field

Now it just happens randomly

[quaint compass]

Ork Jesus has taken the wheel

[paper bluff]

Logistics i would assume

My pet theory is that the eldar are meant to work with the krork psychic field

Weirdboyz not meant to exist. Eldar are supposed to channel the waaagh

[thin ibex]

Seems a bit silly the idea that no combat zone and no war since the war in heaven has even come close to causing orks to evolve back to a krork. I'd wager its more likely other factors are involved beyond just "its not war enough"

[floral herald]

The other possibility is that they have just decayed in the intervening 60 million years

Or went feral or something

[paper bluff]

With the feral, who would be the domesticator? Just the old ones?

[west zealot]

I mean the War In Heaven by the litltke bits we've seen was nuts

[floral herald]

Yeah

[west zealot]

Just absoloteuly batshit insanity

The ncerons have complete mastery of the physical world, and what we've got of the necrons in 40k is basically their broken, brain-damaged remmenants.

and they still have some deeply silly stuff like the cloning monolith

[floral herald]

There are krork in modernity though

They’re just rare

[west zealot]

Source tho?

There's one locked up in Trazyn's gallery

but that's in statsis

[floral herald]

Ghazzers, the beast, and the ork who laid down the Emperor

[thin ibex]

The silent king isn't broken or brain damaged as far as we know? He's got direct continuity from the war in heaven, including his body and personal gear

[west zealot]

The Beasts weren't korok though - just really big orks. Ghazzy isnt either, afaik.

[floral herald]

Yeah the Necron heavy stuff just hasn’t finished its boot up sequence so to speak

[west zealot]

They might be on the cusp of it, but it's not confirmed they are krorks

[floral herald]

That is more or less what a krork is

[west zealot]

Eh, that is not the impression i've ever come away with, personally

Anyway, total sidetrack but i came across this copy pasta and it's semi-relevant and also v. funny

also loud because ork.

IT IS DA FORTY-FIRST MILLENIYUM. FOR LOTS OF CENTURIEZ DA EMPRAH HAS SAT ON HIS FLASH CHAIR. HE IS BOSS OF DA HUMIES DESPITE BEING A LAZY GIT AND TOP NOB OF A MIL.LION PLANETS ‘CUZ HE HAS A TRILLION BOYZ. HE IS A ROTTIN’ CORPSE, BUT ALL WIRED UP WITH FLASHY BITZ. HE IZ DA DEADBOSS OF THE HUMIES WHO EATS A THOUSAND WEIRDBOYZ A DAY SO HE CAN LIVE FOREVA.

YET DESPITE BEING UTTERLY KRUMPED, HE STILL DOES STUFF. BIG KROOZAS CROSS DA DAEMON-INFESTED WARP, DA ONLY WAY TO GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT WAITIN’ A THOUSAND YEARS, DA WAY LIT BY DA ASTRONORMICORN, DA SHINY THING DAT HE MAKES WITH HIS BRAIN. HE HAS A TRILLION BOYZ FIGHTIN’ HIS BATTLES FOR HIM. HIS BIGGEST NOBS ARE DA BEAKIES, GITZ WHO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF FIGHTIN’ JUICE JAMMED INTO DEM BY PAINBOYZ . ‘DEY HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER GITZ TOO; DA GROTS OF THE IMPERIAL GUARD, DA INQUISITIVE THINGY, AND ‘DEM COGBOY MEKS. BUT THEY AIN’T ENOUGH TO HOLD OFF DA CHAOS-BOYZ AND PANZEES, LET ALONE DA WAAAAGH!

TO BE A BOY IN SUCH TIMES IS TO BE ONE AMONGST I CAN’T EVEN COUNT. IT IS TO LIVE IN THE HAPPIEST AND BEST TIMEZ IMAGINABLE . ‘DESE ARE DA TALES OF THESE TIMES. FORGET DA POWA OF TEKNOLOGY AND SCIENCE, BECAUSE LEARNING IS FOR PANZEES. FORGET DA FEAR DAT ‘DERE IS NO ONE TO FIGHT, BECAUSE IN DA GRIM DARK FUTURE THERE IS ONLY WAAAAGH! ‘DERE IS NO BOREDOM AMONG THE STARS, ONLY AN ETERNITY OF SHOOTIN’ AND CHOPPIN’, AND DA LAUGHTER OF GORK AND MORK.

[thin ibex]

We also know that the legions of the necrons, the basic warriors, the immortals etc, they were still the foot soldiers, the foot elite of the necron military complex back in the war in heaven. They're using the same guns. What's changed is their leadership and unity

Which in turn means the things they were shooting, by some measure, were harmed by those guns

[floral herald]

That’s the problem with impressions really

[thin ibex]

It wasn't 100% super saiyans, gods, and domain expansions in all corners of the war

A lot of the time, it was likely dudes shooting each other

[west zealot]

Well, yes. It's like 40k's lore is subjective as hell overall, and desigend that way cos Your Dudes

[floral herald]

Yeah and most of the stuff on the krork is more or less lunatic fanon which is nearly completely disconnected from the lore haha

[west zealot]

I can see the argument for Ghazzy being a Krork, but i also tend to err on teh side of "Unless there's a canon, unimpecahble soruce saying yup, he's a krork" I'm not gonna call him that, ya know?

[floral herald]

The only named krork we get (by one of the only people who’d know that name) is simply a big ork with more sophisticated armor than is normal now

[thin ibex]

We had orks committed to apocalyptic levels of war. Ullanor, against the assembled might of the Imperium and the emperor. Octarius, against the nids. The War of the Beast, which almost destroyed the Imperium

[floral herald]

I don’t really care what you call him

[thin ibex]

It's not like they're lacking in compelling, interstellar combat

[west zealot]

Labels are important, dammit 😛

We gotta label everything as psecifcally as possible. This is a clear and sensible approach.

[thin ibex]

Another thought that occurred to me, the Silent King saw the nids and turned around. As someone who fought the Old Ones, the Aeldari, the Krorks, and the Ctan, the fact that he sees the Nids as a real and present threat is telling

That also frames the War in Heaven as not something so unapproachable

[west zealot]

my understanding there is it's less crazy threat and more 'if they eat all the biomass, we're gonna have a hell of a time fixing the biotransferrence thing"

[thin ibex]

Feels a bit like "I choke slammed Old Ones. I was IN that war. I'm telling you we gotta get the band back together and wake everyone up"

And Imotekh is like "Nah son I have autonomy now, and I'm busy"

[floral herald]

I don’t remember if it’s written anywhere but I always figured a big part of the fear was that the Tyranids would work out living metal

[west zealot]

It went badly for the Kroot according ot the necron codex, but yeah, if anyone will crack it, it's the hivemind

[jaunty dawn]

Ghaz is tiny compared to the named krork

[thin ibex]

i do think its a little... weak of the setting to not elevate Ghaz more. Before he was a match for any notable Space Marine captain or chapter master. But with Primarchs in play on both chaos and imperial, and things like the silent king in play, Ghaz should be an equal threat to that

the Prophet of Gork and Mork should be a more considerable entity

[jaunty dawn]

Its also like. Unclear at this point how big ghaz even is on his own. His current body was built as much as grown which kinda defeats the point

[thin ibex]

at least a little yeah

[jaunty dawn]

But like either way ghaz is effectively just a living deff dread. Trayzyns krork is the size of a Knight

[floral herald]

Yeah he’s also smaller than the Gorroork and the beast iirc

He’s just got that dog in him so to speak

[paper bluff]

If ghaz gets to fight a primarch, then I think another level up is in order. And angron is on his shit list

[jaunty dawn]

Which kinda brings up like were eldar even on the wraith shit in the war on heaven

[floral herald]

The eldar were mass-producing warp gods iirc

[jaunty dawn]

Cause like idk if its even clear whether craftworld eldar used soulstones prior to the fall

Let alone to begin with

[floral herald]

Trazzy’s krork is also probably exceptional in some way but we don’t know how

[paper bluff]

Well it is the only confirmed krork

In 40k

Funny would be if it got release and joined with the modern orks. How would it mesh? Would it devolve? Would the orks evolve? Would it be a situation like the eternity?

[floral herald]

My guess is either.
A. Walking apocalypse for the galaxy, brings the band back together
B. Ork Guilliman, he’s very sad
C. Overwhelmed and beaten down by the modern waaagh field

[thin ibex]

my guess is that soulstones were invented by the craftworlds, who at the time of hte war in heaven werent a thing; they were kind of a counter culture movement of disciplinarians and martial artists who lived strict. Maybe they were a way to ensure continuity of skills? Then they became that much mroe useful in the aftermath of Slaanesh's awakening. Either that or they wera post slaanesh invention

[paper bluff]

"Boss ghaz! A brain boy 'as shown up!!"
"A wot?"
"A real big boy! He's got real snaz armor and this dakka that kinda like ours and he's right proper orky but he's snazzy and says some of K R ork"

[thin ibex]

plain and simple, if a krork showed up, ghaz and hte krork would have to fight. Seeing as Ghaz has a name, Ghaz has a shonen anime power up via guts or whatever and beats the krork showcasing his superiority

[floral herald]

Man it’s kinda goofy that the krork trazyn has is 12 meters tall

I would simply defend myself from the krork in a bunker which lacks a 4th floor 😤

[thin ibex]

its not like the necrons were especially larger

or the aeldari

[paper bluff]

I like to think that the necrotyr were tall as space marines but spindly

[jaunty dawn]

I mean thats kinda what Im getting at talking about wraith tech

People talk a lot abt why there were both krorks and eldar but like if eldar werent making titans and planes by sticking dead ppl in them yet then there you go

[paper bluff]

I think eldar were intelligence corps and special weapons

[west zealot]

One thing that Ghazzy does face going for him is apparently he's showing up in multiple places post great rift

So something whacky is going on there, which puts him in a very unique league. If I wanted to make him more dangerous lore wise, I'd probably dial up that sort of prophet of the waaagh factor shenanigans

[floral herald]

I like the possibility that it’s just this but for random warbosses and ghazkhull

I kinda doubt that it is

[tired cairn]

In kind of disappointed they didn't keep krorks around. Just because it would be funny if their knight equivalents were really big orks with little orks and gretchin running around them

Do orks generally get me intelligent as they get bigger? Hence the "brain boys" moniker for krorks?

[floral herald]

Not strictly I think?

Brain boyz might also have just been the old ones

[uneven ember]

I've also just seen "Brain Boyz" used to mean a smarter than normal ork
like the navigator/narrator in the Deff Skwadron series

[sour sequoia]

Scale wise necron warriors end up abt 8ft tall, on their scoliosis hunched over power poses, everybody else is taller and beefier

Necrons are fockin big

[paper bluff]

I still really wish the silent king looked like a fully healthy necrotyr but metal body rather than the best skeleton we got

He is still tho that only necron with wrists

[sour sequoia]

I ain’t a herohammer person so much but I am glad it’s a fucked up ctan shard popemobile rather than primarch bonk stick

As cool as samurai lychguard is the scary shit about necrons is the tech and head start

[past sphinx]

i feel bad bringing abbadon

yeah hes more costly than a landraider but it still feels weird

[floral herald]

Never feel bad about fielding the anime protagonist of 40k

[thin ibex]

Isn't abaddon pretty good in the current chaos game?

[thin ibex]

not a good list, but just being silly

[past sphinx]

he can fucking stomp if wielded right, i like slapping him in a landraider and wrapping him in chosen to dive the enemy deployment or center board positions.

but its also abbadon, id feel the same weirdness about a primarch or the silent king

[empty siren]

Thought of what I'd do for a tyranid army

Assimilation Swarm. Healing. Heal only the biggest monsters. Give them buffs to their survivability. Constantly regenerate their wounds

Norn emissary and a parasite of mortrex. To generate ripper swarms and to use those ripper swarms to halve OC on objectives and also to feed themselves to the emissary or really any big scary monster

3 Norn emissaries on all middle objectives, backed up by their homies. Because those objectives belong to the hive mind

[rocky shale]

You can only heal a unit once per your command phase

[empty siren]

Aww :(

[rocky shale]

Dropping 750+ points of melee monsters on center objective just means you're scoring one objective and your opponent is running the rest of the board

[empty siren]

Oh well

I don't plan to win. I plan to eat

(I don't actually plan to do this)

Chances are I'll do nexus or invasion fleet

[rocky shale]

Norn assimilator is also the one that's actually a harvester for that detachment rule

[thin ibex]

norn assimilator can be such a capital P Problem if it uses its ability to hard camp an objective

especially with a little bit of support

[empty siren]

That's the silly plan

Make my norns hard to kill. Camp objectives

[thin ibex]

only need to hold 2 and keep your opponent off of 1

[past sphinx]

THINGS WILL GET LOUD NOW

[paper bluff]

SCREAM TO BE HEARD

[thin ibex]

those look pretty sick dude

[sour sequoia]

That pink on the tubes is 10/10, lurid

[empty siren]

I want a minimum of two. They're like my riptides. I got two, not because they're good in my list. But because they're fucking awesome.

THEY'RE SO COOL

[west zealot]

I do love that they're named Assimlator and Emissary

(Though i think they mnissed a trick with making the Assimlator Ambassador instead)

[rocky shale]

The assimilator is one with the harvester trait for the detachment

[tired cairn]

Though it didn't originally have it lol

[floral herald]

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Bluesky · May 21, 2025, 8:49 PM

[pulsar cairn]

do the mechanicum like to investigate weird phenomena or only if it is related to tech?

[paper bluff]

Only tech, other wise you get inquisitor

[meager quail]

There are of course inter-organizational conflicts over that point

As well as intra-organizational

[paper bluff]

The (dark) mechanicum are usually causing weird phenomenon. The mechanicus tries to handle internal conflict quickly and quietly

Remember folks,

But also there is 80% more spikes to mechanicum

[pulsar cairn]

[west zealot]

Also remember there's Magos Biologos - if there's one thing the imperium is really good at, it's bio engineering

And the galaxy is big enough is pretty easy to justify that oh yes, this forge world is thumbing it's nose at Mars and investigating all kinds of things

(or conversely, this Forge world thinks Mars is a bunch of liberal hereteks, and you need to be even more conservative about the quest for knowledge)

[still warren]

Merry Skullsmas everyone

[empty siren]

MY MINIS ARRIVE IN THE MAIL TODAY

https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038

[floral herald]

Woooo

[empty siren]

Do I start building Tyranids now that I have a 3k list for Tau...

I'm looking at their detachments and I'm just...I need

They're so cool

[jaunty dawn]

Get some tau games in :)

[rocky shale]

Dark heresy owlcat game

[spice flicker]

I'm excited

[runic swallow]

I love the Silly Lil Guys GW started doing more with characters several years ago

Technically it might have started with the Watchers in the Dark or the Huron model and his scrungly dog thing, but it really got going with the silly Nurgulings I think

[past sphinx]

Chaos lord in terminator armor is this guy's origin

And when he inevitably gets a refresh we better get a new lil guy

[runic swallow]

The little guys are very important

If GW is gonna charge an arm, a leg, and a kidney, they can at least include some silly lil guys

Sometimes useful for effect markers, but mostly because they’re silly lil guys

[rocky shale]

dawn of war remaster let's gooooo

64bit mod support

My prayers are answered

[paper bluff]

https://youtu.be/KVqOfHFJQFA?si=w2sD4VGd7iC2Hn32

I'm most interested in this

[past sphinx]

NEW DARK HERESY LETS GO

dog shit loser brigade time

with a nightlords antagonist!

[sour sequoia]

GSC got hands
Took me six games to read my damn army rule right, I can never complain about autopilot armies again if I can’t read my own

On the upside when 3 of my 6 games were sub-10pt losses earned from not getting max secondaries last two rounds, knowing I can win those is nice

[mental birch]

There are two kinds of GSC players

Bowled over or geniuses at positioning

[sour sequoia]

Lots of AoS play on skaven helps the mindset at least but I didn’t realize cult markers are just alternate ports of entry

I thought they were the chokepoint for resurrection

Instead you just cannot stop the tide of dogshit, and I should be placing them aggressively so you either step off primaries or get punched in the fuckin mouth repeatedly

[pastel rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/436948616452767755/1375173685815808071/image.png?ex=6830b9cc&is=682f684c&hm=3de67b2262c1ce751b6abbe4b4c50b5ad398753527864f155ad838bb7ed55cf4&

[thin ibex]

honestly, i love that a typing game exists for warhammer

[paper bluff]

Give them back their limos

[pastel rampart]

If I ever did GSC I'd commit to the above limos.

[dense idol]

it's not even a goofy nickname they really are just called Coven Limousines

what's the deal with the very-obviously-Khornate banner in the middle?

[pastel rampart]

Used to be you'd get chaos cults in non-human factions like orks and GSC.

[dense idol]

ah, as DEI (Destroy, Eviscerate, Immolate) hires, i see

[pastel rampart]

It was something that only cropped up occasionally and had spotty rules support, and largely went away around 3rd ed.

[past sphinx]

Fuckin around with a molten effect

[uneven ember]

"damn it feels good to be a space bug"

[tired cairn]

Why is the inquisitor a stormcast eternal?

[brittle salmon]

because he's not, he's Balthazar Gelt

[quaint compass]

Cosplayer

[quaint compass]

"With the wind of Chamon I will turn lead into your innert flesh"

[brittle salmon]

lmaooo

[quaint compass]

"Behold Aqshy's might, for with it I shall transform these illegal substances into nothing but ash."

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-cdi-ytp-king-dinner-cigar-gif-5898047791866776289

[pastel rampart]

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Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Definitive Edition

All of Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War in one definitive package. Experience this genre-defining Warhammer 40,000 classic in all its blood-soaked glory, including four complete campaigns, nine full-fledged factions, and over 200 maps – all in one game.

Upon its release in 2004, Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War quickly established itself as o…

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[west zealot]

Damnit, he really is

[pastel rampart]

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elminiaturista

Sekheta robot in 3h30min painting! Is that speedpaint? I think not.
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I have try to enhance a bit this mini adding some elements, after a bit of brainstorming with @liver.eating.johnson this is the result. Some kind of rising sand barrier that was sculpted in record time by @deadlyprintstudio
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[past sphinx]

i like them robits

[pastel rampart]

They look a lot better in anything other than the GW paint job.

Many such cases.

[bold halo]

basing is doing a lot of heavy lifting to bring some motion to a very static pose too

[empty siren]

Ya know what'd be fun

Dark Angels with the Librarius Conclave detachment

Mmm I love Deathwing knights

Actually, Dark Angels with Vanguard was the most fun I've ever had using Dark Angels

Deathwing knights with the -1 DMG, -1 to hit and benefits of cover when targeted outside 12". You're slow, but when pushing up the board with all that survivability it's 🤌

Is it great with Dark Angels? Meh. I just remember running a Terminator list plus two invictor warsuits against Deathguard and it was just a pain to remove my shit off the board with shooting. Hit my friend with the "ERM actually" like 20 times

[mental birch]

10 deathwing knights inflitrating into the midboard is really funny

[empty siren]

God it was hilarious

I loved hitting my friend with an armour of contempt too

"oh you wanna remove these terminators? Free armour of contempt from my captain."

Oh wait I never used armour of contempt FUCK I SHOULD HAVE

I love giving my opponent -1 to hit, having a +1 to save, reducing their ap by 1, and reducing their damage by 1!

I wonder if firestorm and deathwatch would be fun

[rocky shale]

Deathwatch win rates are currently in the gutter

[empty siren]

I have an idea

Black Templars with Librarius Conclave

Is this lore accurate? Absolutely not. Is it funny to imagine? Yes

[brittle salmon]

They're at like a 52% competitive win rate overall since the beginning of this year, so not at all

[rocky shale]

Oh whoops the last thing I saw on this was like a last couple week tournament stats

Only at like a 41% WR there

[empty siren]

That's cool and all but

I'm simply built different

I'd win

[rocky shale]

Deathwatch really interested me until I realized how much of a pain the kill teams are to assemble from kits

[floral herald]

leaked

[empty siren]

It interested me until I realized I only play with people don't benefit the battleline unit which is like...

I play against Deathguard and Imperial guard 🥲 99.9% of the time

[empty siren]

Then I gave up on space marines

Now I play Tau

[thin ibex]

charging with the monolith is hilarious

and its melee is good