Warhammer and Such

[south axle]

The middle guy is the oldest Slann model, I have the right one which was from the same era as old Kroak

Best thing with old Kroak was that his mask was optional

[floral herald]

I like how that really old model is holding forward a hand like it'll explode

That's a very characterful model

[upper canopy]

Lord Kroak is the most powerful wizard in the entirety of Warhammer

His corpse is just that magical that they are able to still nuke cities with it

[past sphinx]

My man was so magical he fucking died and said no I think ill do that later and stuck around

Non terrible inquisitorial pictures

[upper canopy]

A Dozen Bloodthirsters were sent specifically to kill him

not the city he was in, that was a task force of spec-ops Bloodthirsters sent to assasinate just one frog

[spice flicker]

Well I mean no kill like overkill even if your "overkill" isn't enough.

[runic swallow]

Kroak is cool, I always love a Wizard so powerful that death is more an inconvenience than an actual issue for them

Like, I love all the ways wizards come back in The Black Company

[thin ibex]

kroak iirc rearranged stars in aos, into the shape of a big frog, just as a casual middle finger to chaos

[runic swallow]

Aren’t the lizardmen star creatures in AoS? Like they are made of star stuff

[thin ibex]

well, some of them yeah

i think there are bio ones too now

as a side faction

[runic swallow]

I’m not super up on AoS lore, I played just a tiny bit at the start and then fell off

[thin ibex]

but for a lil bit i think the vibe was that slann would just invent them on the spot for war

[runic swallow]

Partially because I had got into it by picking up a box of tomb kings stuff on sale lol

And uh, they didn’t last long

[runic swallow]

Yeah, that’s the lore I remember

[upper canopy]

Yeah there's Starborne Daemon Lizardmen and Flesh and Blood "feral" ones

[spice flicker]

They're the order counterpart to chaos daemons right? Reptilian Order Daemons

[mental birch]

Yes

[ebon forge]

that's awesome

[tepid stratus]

Until they spend too much time in reality. Then they become real

[thin ibex]

oh thats how that works

thats one thing i didnt know

[thin ibex]

looks like dread mob is defeinitely the dakka detachment

which fdeels a BIT weird? but not bad

all the ork detaches seem fun tbh

some will be more competetive for sure

but none seem bad

[spice flicker]

I was working on building a crusade force for an upcoming campaign with some friends and was wondering what you guys thought of this idea for a progression from 1k to 1.5k to 2k dark eldar? This is still a work in progress so any suggestions and advice would be appreciated.

https://pastebin.com/XyQrYFfS

[pastel rampart]

https://vxtwitter.com/StefanieB_Art/status/1778562438985892048?t=SQU9WkgCQ_24LTO_t5ZogQ&s=19

[ebon forge]

"FATHER I CAME TO SAVE YOU"
While bringing a legion of demons laughing at Magnus face

It still hilarious

[desert jay]

They matter for people who aren’t online enough for dataslates and just play casually, but those people are also like “there’s a meta?”

[jaunty dawn]

uh

tbf right now if you never go online most of the factions don't have points or rules

you could order cards for the latter I guess

[floral herald]

Those people aren’t playing 10e because yeah - almost everyone is using online points atm

the casuals are all using waha anyway

[desert jay]

You can get the indexes on cards

Yeah I forget there’s no points tho without a book or pdf

Unless the card packs have the release points

[jaunty dawn]

I don't think they do

[floral herald]

I don’t think they do since they’re just printouts of the cards online afaik

[jaunty dawn]

mhm

[desert jay]

Do you know anyone out there who’s bought one? XD

[spice flicker]

It came in and I'm excited to read through this

[jaunty dawn]

nice!

[spice flicker]

Reading through the crusade missions and man am I going to dread having to do the Polarising Energies mission at some point.

Four objectives in no man's land set up in a square with two in opposite corners labeled as A and the other 2 as B. During the first battle round if a unit is within range of an objective labeled A it gets the benefit of cover while those withing range of objectives labeled B suffer 1 mortal wound. From the 2nd battle round onward, the effects get swapped at the start of the battle round.

[thin ibex]

I like that

Combo'd with a lot of the objective oriented detachments that have you pick an objective

[thin ibex]

Did a wulfen one

Ok last one

[solemn gull]

I heard female custodes are canon now in 10th. Pretty cool.

[floral herald]

Oh that’s neat

They were in a weird spot

[jaunty dawn]

ooh

[floral herald]

Not explicitly all male like space marines but basically de facto

[jaunty dawn]

spooky!!!

[past sphinx]

Female stodes confirmed

[past sphinx]

I think the reason girls didn't make the cut into the books was simply the sprue was made and didn't have female heads

Witch is some gw level goofy

[floral herald]

I agree

It’s sort of like how there used to be a lot of questions about women in the guard because all the cadians were men

[south axle]

TIme to buy Cat Girl heads to put on my Golden Bananas

[past sphinx]

Gotta find some scunglely lady heads now

[solemn gull]

Genestealer cults fix this

[floral herald]

It was fixed a while ago for the guard - this was like a 2007 era discussion

[solemn gull]

It was a joke on how they are all bald and mutated

[floral herald]

Oh I just assumed the new brood bros KT had fem heads lol

I didn’t realize that that KT is actually the upgrade sprue team for that box

[jaunty dawn]

yee

ironically the initial gsc release was pretty male to ambigious

is that actually ironic? idk

[floral herald]

I get your drift at least

[jaunty dawn]

I think it's just surprising cause they're relatively recent

they were one of the last releases to like, be shy abt it

and their subsequent releases have gone pretty hard on swinging it in the other direction

[floral herald]

Yeah

I think GSC were maybe sort of a faction which made GW gun shy because they’re pretty much the only faction which fucks

Like as a major lore element

[unreal cosmos]

I can't beleive Clementine Kesh is a Custodian now

[floral herald]

There isn’t really another one which is like “ooooo they’ll seduce you ooooo you’ll have weird alien hybrid babies”

[past sphinx]

Is that a reference ti something?

[unreal cosmos]

Yeah it's from a podcast

[desert jay]

Slaneesh (fantasy & daemons)

(For similar reasons EC is also surprisingly chaste)

[azure heron]

I think nothing signals more that Warhammer was made by British nerds in the 80s than the fact that in both 40k and Fantasy different factions have ways around fucking or fucking is portrayed as vile and immoral. lmao

[jaunty dawn]

warhammer is deeply sexless and no slaanesh does like nothing to change that haha

like if anything having slaanesh just like exemplifies it

[azure heron]

Yup. For me the prime example of sexlessness in Warhammer is how Lizardmen pop out of their magic pools fully formed.

[floral herald]

It’s fairly common yeah

LoV also do that

[azure heron]

The eldar fucked once and look at what happened to them!

[desert jay]

On further reflection yeah you’re right

[floral herald]

You’d think Imperial Guard would be a shoe in but one of their most popular sub factions are grown in vats

(Krieg iirc)

[desert jay]

I guess Cadians at least get to be born soldiers

[azure heron]

Apparently Cadians are encouraged to breed like rabbits, but they don't really bring that up a lot these days.

[south axle]

Remember Cadia

[floral herald]

I always found that sort of funny

Since cadia has a small population for a whole planet

40K and numbers tho

[azure heron]

Apparently that is because back when the planet was still standing, Cadians were exported to newly conquered planets to set up "mini-Cadias".

[tired cairn]

Seems like a questionable decision

[muted elm]

honestly I'd just rule it as "cadia is used as a symbol of Imperial strength even on worlds that had only heard of it in terms of it's fall" and have the many, many "cadian" legions be emulating the real ones

[floral herald]

https://fxtwitter.com/oculusimperia/status/1779237433474740577?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

Legible version

[tired cairn]

Great damage has been done to the "Emperor being a misogynistic gay man" theory for why all the space marines are men

[jaunty dawn]

maybe

he's not around anymore

who knows

kept it on the dl and whoever makes custodes these days is just like

[desert jay]

Somewhere in the 31st some Custodes went “okay I know we’re all guys but that’s not a rule or anything right?”

[thin ibex]

the rest of the companions are like "You know, honestly, I did think it was a little weird that it was all just us being bros with Big E, tbh..."

and then a bunch go "Oh, yeah, yeah definitely"

and nod in agreement

[lofty warren]

what the fuck i transcribed this

thats my writing has this been making the rounds

[thin ibex]

isnt like one of the OG things about the custodes that they're all kinda like... actually personal friends and bodyguards for the emperor?

[pulsar cairn]

so even more reasons for me to think custodes are the coolest?

[past sphinx]

the real tragedy so no longer being able to post that malcom in the middle gif

[thin ibex]

also havent some custodes been around since like

thunder warriors times?

[past sphinx]

Yeah valerian i believe

*Valdor

and all the ones that survived the heresy kinda stood around the palace for 10k years short of all the secret CIA shit they did

[lofty warren]

New take: kind of dad who will have female friends but feels emasculated by the thought of having a daughter

[past sphinx]

and the daemons in the basemen

[past sphinx]

Once emps stopped being directly invovled everybody just decided it wasnt really a rule but the imperium at large was simply to stupid at that point

[jaunty dawn]

female custodes kinda just makes me think about how much less awkward stormcast look for roughly the same concept

some custodes are very like

wide

maybe its just the extreme shoulderage though

hmm

[unreal cosmos]

I feel like this is trying to emulate Blanche

[pulsar cairn]

aaaand there we go i dared to look at warhammer communities outside of pilot net

i regret doing that

[jaunty dawn]

it's so silly

[solemn gull]

You mean reddit right?

[pulsar cairn]

nah

Brazilian peeps from my town who play the tabletop

[jaunty dawn]

oh oof

[pulsar cairn]

good thing there are some other folks who feel the same way as me in that group

[jaunty dawn]

that's good

[mental birch]

I just mock people who hate this

[lofty warren]

Overall outside of spaces id expect to have bad opinions ive not seen that much pushback

Mild disgruntlement at most

[long void]

I found this meme embracing the news:

[past sphinx]

people to busy malding at goonhammer

[lofty warren]

What, for being the slightest bit positive about the codex?

[past sphinx]

no for one of the writers just fuckin hating custodes

[lofty warren]

Lmao

[past sphinx]

forgetting the bit that goonhammers reviews are like all about having multipul viewpoints

[lofty warren]

Yeah i read it and honestly it was more positive than i expected

Overall

[past sphinx]

i felt the same way when admech got fucking dumpstered after getting bent over by a local dude for 4 years

prick brought a meta list to the first game of 40k i had in like a decade

[past sphinx]

doomerism is fun but the codex is mostly inline with the power of 10th overall

i cant be disapointed i already think this edition isnt very good

just its design concepts as a whole

[lofty warren]

Yeah thats my impression

But i dont play bighammer so i dont really have opinions

[mental birch]

40K seems fine right now

though I do play T'au

so like I play this very movement heavy objective grabby knife playstyel

[solemn gull]

I don’t think I’m going to bite the bullet and buy any 10th edition books

Still haven’t got my use out of 9th

Also do you guys think we might get a new edition of mordheim since they are bringing the old world back?

[jaunty dawn]

hmm

could happen

[long void]

The success of Old World has been surprising to GW staff, so it'll be a while for them to get projects spun up

But hey, that would serve the same purpose as Kill Team

[solemn gull]

Well I mean it’s the equivalent of necromunda and that game is selling good

[jaunty dawn]

I think you can get a lot further with mordheim using current models than you could if n18 hadnt happened for necromunda though

[unreal cosmos]

Better though not 100% perfect screenshots of the full(?) story, the first confirmed girl Custodes spends her screentime girlbossing dangerously close to the sun.

[floral herald]

excellent

[thin ibex]

Personally I think 10th has been a big improvement over 8th and 9th despite the rocky start. Especially with more consistent balance passes

[floral herald]

I agree

CW: marshal bohemond (not an offensive post but he sucks so I'm not gonna post anything from him unspoiled)

hell yeah good riddance

[pastel rampart]

lmao die mad, dork

[tired cairn]

I'm kind of in awe about how pathetic of a reason that is

[lofty warren]

The trash takes itself out

[floral herald]

Pre-emptive apology to the Battletech fandom

[lofty warren]

Having waded through a bunch of this shit a big thing thats hit me is like

A lot of people are subjecting themselves to these painful breakups with 40k

Over the tiniest things

[floral herald]

Yeah its a weird hill to die on

But to be expected for a lot of this crowd

[lofty warren]

Why didnt you dip when GW killed fan projects, lmao

Or any other material thing

They want to be miserable, i suppose. Aggrieved

[unreal cosmos]

best reason for this kind of change to be made heh

[floral herald]

yeah 100%

[unreal cosmos]

shame about Battletech but maybe he can get bullied out of that too

[rocky shale]

Battletech communities are generally not too friendly to that sorta chud

Not that there aren't groups painfully stuck in the 80's but its more recent resurgence is cool

[unreal cosmos]

I know there's definitely a subset of "keep politics out :c" types

[upper canopy]

https://www.tumblr.com/wh40kartwork/747700217797804032/khârn?source=share

[solemn gull]

I don’t think there was ever lore against female custodes tho

[floral herald]

There wasn't!

There was just no rep

[solemn gull]

Yeah it was just too niche

[brittle salmon]

peak

[upper canopy]

There was one line about nobles in terra giving up their sons to become Custodes

[solemn gull]

I mean hey they didn’t say anything about giving up their daughters

[long void]

I'd imagine anything that's coming from the past army codexes would have been written to match the available options of the models.

[solemn gull]

How many people here play necromunda?

[past sphinx]

i do

though i only have one friend to play with so i mostly build things for it

Deer and steers dont make good campaign players

[jaunty dawn]

havent played in a whiiile but I just started painting a new van saar gang

played a lot around the gang war books period

and played one game when ash wastes came out, had a blast, and then never managed to play anymore haha

my parent is dreaming of running a campaign but we dont have a group so

[soft willow]

I built a bunch of Ironhead Squats, then the person planning to run the campaign here backed out. So now I have all the squats and no games.

[solemn gull]

Have any of you played with that new ash wastes expansion?

[jaunty dawn]

once

[past sphinx]

i have, its okay

would not suggest it being your entry

[jaunty dawn]

i really like the hab blocks terrain

[solemn gull]

I’m not new to necromunda but I was thinking about getting some of my willing 40k friends into it and the “cool mad max” aspect was one of my selling points

[verbal ermine]

CUSTODES WOMEN REAL?

[past sphinx]

REAL

[jaunty dawn]

id say be prepared to make/convert your own vehicles

[past sphinx]

yeah thats pretty key and a large workload

[solemn gull]

Oh yeah I’ve been doing that for a while

[jaunty dawn]

cause they didnt end up making many haha

[past sphinx]

hope you like jackels your gonna convert 20 of em

[solemn gull]

Lot of good youtube videos on taking toy vehicles and kitbashing them

[pastel rampart]

That's the orky way of doin' it.

Tried and true.

[solemn gull]

Whoops that was the unpainted version

And it seems I don’t have a photo of them painted

These were the enforcers though! Pretty proud of them still to this day.

It was my first time using inks and an airbrush

[jaunty dawn]

oooh nice

simple but effective

love the use if the slab shield as well

[solemn gull]

Yeah I never got the actual shield guys so I “borrowed” a ogryn shield from a friend

[past sphinx]

properly grim and dark them lads

[jaunty dawn]

my parent put a couple enforcers on primaris outrider bikes and it worked surprisingly well

[floral herald]

I like those models

[solemn gull]

That reminds me of those huge bulky bikes in the 80s judge dread movie lol

[jaunty dawn]

yeee exactly

[solemn gull]

I’m thinking of buying some more house gangs to do because they are such fun models to paint

The outcast gangs were my fixation for so long it feels like when you play a video game but only do side quests

[junior summit]

don't worry whenever the chuds pop up I wave around the canon trans catgirls until they go away

incidentally battletech's lore is fucking nuts because it was written by far too many people without sufficient editorial control

[jaunty dawn]

its also just a thing like

custodes? of all factions?

like yeah they existed but lets be real no they didnt

before around the burning of prospero boxset I mean

[runic swallow]

They’d existed in the background for a good while before that to be fair

[jaunty dawn]

thats what I mean

that is technically a true fact

[zinc field]

IIRC they were like five small blurbs and a grainy illustration in a splatbook

[pastel rampart]

"DECADES OF LORE" bro they were Pillar Men up until like 9 years ago, they had practically no lore.

[bold halo]

decades of lore amounting to a handful of sentences

[jaunty dawn]

and like

no one cared

no one talked about them

until they started to show up in heresy anyway

[bright dove]

Custodes becoming an army was the best thing for them.

[muted elm]

this entire affair seems like a non-answer to the desire for female space marines

[runic swallow]

It was the heresy books that really did it iirc, not the army as much

For giving the big lore stuff

[pastel rampart]

"ITS BEEN CHANGED" yeah and you know what lore also changed? Necron, and now they whip ass as a whole army of insane Skeletor metal robots having petty dynastic slap-fights.

[zinc field]

The other fun one is skitarii

if you look at the pre-army depictions they're these roided up tribal cyborgs

[pastel rampart]

Or LoV.

[floral herald]

I liked those skits

I like the modeled ones as well but the older ones were dope

[pastel rampart]

Went from biker dwarfs to clones doing a Super Capitalism and trying to desperately keep their ChatGPT servers from crashing.

[runic swallow]

Yeah, the Skitari getting an army actually kinda flattened them a bit, the book descriptions of them got wild

Not that the models are bad, but they don’t have the same wild horror vibe as the books or even the Heresy stuff

Heresy Mechanicum is on that Cyber-Horror shit an I’m here for it

[zinc field]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/comments/a0kr14/skitarii_colored/ Here we go

[floral herald]

word, I quite like the 40k army admech but they're pretty distinctive from other depictions of the faction

[jaunty dawn]

even secutarii feel kinda different even if a chunk of that is just forge world v eavy metal painting style

[runic swallow]

They’re more… normal? I guess? More robot dudes than robot dudes if that makes sense

[floral herald]

I think they do sort of the same thing but the mechanical horror is cut with a sort of gonzo classic sci fi and speculative technology aesthetic

Though its still present

[runic swallow]

Yeah. It’s more 50s sci fi than the grungy horror of the Mechanicum stuff

[jaunty dawn]

look at the servitor 'pilot' of an ironstrider for example

[floral herald]

Or how mutiliated basic skitarii are under their masks

[runic swallow]

Like, give me the literally endless horde of cheap servitors

[floral herald]

They need those lenses cause their tech-priest masters remove their eyelids and usually eyes

[floral herald]

(The techpriests find the momentary loss of combat-data stream when a skitarii blinks unacceptable so they remove them)

[jaunty dawn]

kinda like the contrast of the quite clean mechanics of the machine to the like. absolutely tortured body of the servitor

[runic swallow]

I can never remember the name, but those blank “face” war robots from HH are super great, and also brains in a jar slowly losing what’s left of their minds as they see x-rays and hear colors

[floral herald]

Yeah both are present and they mix techno-horror with old school sf pretty hard

[jaunty dawn]

thallax

[runic swallow]

Yes! Them!

[jaunty dawn]

technically still like people soldiers

[runic swallow]

Yeah

[jaunty dawn]

just not a lot of flesh body left

[runic swallow]

Basically just a brain and some parts of the peripheral nervous system

[floral herald]

Yeah the Thallax art is great

Not a Robot

I hate the visual of running neurocable into the teeth of the pilot

It's excellently unsettling

[jaunty dawn]

still kinda funny that the two armies totally co-exist in both time periods

these guys are automatically given pain killers as a reward for combat performance

[runic swallow]

Well, the technically co-exist, but it’s more that the 40k Skitari have a totally different vibe to them that doesn’t line up with the this, the HH books, and earlier descriptions super well

They’re too uniform, which I realize is gonna have to happen with models, but they were described as being all sorts of different ways

[jaunty dawn]

ehh

partially

[runic swallow]

This is opinion based to be clear

[jaunty dawn]

I kinda feel like a lot of the titanicus skitarii got retconned into stuff like tech thralls under taghmata in a way

in my view anyway

like cheap disposable lasgun cyborgs is what tech thralls are now

whereas legiones skitarii went more in a like. highly trained warrior order set apart from the mainline cult as their lore was more developed

[floral herald]

I think part of it lore wise is that the mechanicum eventually collapsed and were subsumed by the Imperium and their forces evolved from the more eclectic vaguely feudal mechanicum system into the more centralized explorator fleet skitarii legions

[jaunty dawn]

oh for sure

uh like mars is far more in charge now (in 40k era)

and theyve always been the biggest skitarii users

partially though its also like the tau thing

where battlesuits become prioritised because the models suceeded irl

[runic swallow]

I just prefer the Weirder, grungier Skitari

[floral herald]

I guess my perspective is that the army is basically "admech cadians"

[jaunty dawn]

like 40k cult mech has basically had no updates

[floral herald]

There's still "admech krieg" or "admech mordians" out there but without models

[jaunty dawn]

while skitarii just gets whackier (affectionate)

[crisp lance]

So there’s a female custodian?

[floral herald]

yeah

[crisp lance]

Neat

[thin ibex]

That graphic also showcases how heavy bolters still look sick on normal marines

They should give us a primaris squad of dudes with only heavy bolters

[quaint compass]

GW wouldn't do cool shit

We know this since (my faction) didn't get (cool thing)

[solemn gull]

Are devastator squads still around because you could totally just kitbash heavy bolters onto primaris marines

[jaunty dawn]

I think it's more about wanting the models

than needing rules?

[pulsar cairn]

I thought that the lore never ever denied the possibility of a female custodes

Just regular space marines

even the way they are made is different right?

So the same argument wouldnt apply

[jaunty dawn]

yup

there's like one throwaway comment about sons in a previous codex

and writers were discouraged from writing female characters because there wasn't models for them so bizarre corporate stuff

[solemn gull]

Right but you can make the model of “primaris with heavy bolter”

[desert jay]

Ye a box of 10 heavy intercessors has 2 heavy bolters (assuming you don’t mind gravis)

(And then print your own instead of buying several boxes to kitbash 2 guns from each)

[jaunty dawn]

it's the same heavy bolter each time though

like arm position

[solemn gull]

I would ask around if anyone else has spare heavy bolters

A chaos, space marine, or imperial guard player should have a few

[desert jay]

And thus the need to print other poses

[jaunty dawn]

hmm

thinking what you can eat that isnt tyranid or chaos warped

stray ambull

if these were in dungeon meshi they would definitely be edible

[floral herald]

What… are those?

[jaunty dawn]

spindle drones

from blackstone fortress

[mental birch]

Ambull Omelette

clearly

[tired cairn]

When did infantry start being about to go through ruin walls in 40k?

[jaunty dawn]

wanna say 9e?

when all those terrain traits were added

[mental birch]

9e

I was joking about it then

[jaunty dawn]

breachable and obscuring became a thing

[mental birch]

INfantry can walk through walls

[jaunty dawn]

and still are but no longer part of a System

[mental birch]

they're much more unique than the other guy

[jaunty dawn]

shame these guys arent available now they look so cool

the lore on these is mysterious but theyre presumably original inhabitants of the blackstone fortresses

so probably eldar bots?

[solemn gull]

Wish I picked some up for my cold traders

[upper canopy]

I mean Blackstone is Necron tech isn't it? Or are they another secret xenos invention I can't remember

[tired cairn]

Lexicanum says Eldar

[jaunty dawn]

the bfs are eldar anti ctan weapons iirc

umm

but necrons do also use blackstone yes

neither necessarily invented it though, its a mystery. bfs could also be reverse engineered from necron tech or something

[tired cairn]

Through the subtle manipulation of the C'tan Mephet'ran the Deceiver, some time in M40, Abaddon the Despoiler learned of the Fortresses, where he was guided by the visions of Zaraphiston to an Eldar Crone World. There, he read an ancient prophecy revealing their existence.
Why would you need to be subtle or manipulate Abbadon to get him to take the blackstone fortresses lol?

[jaunty dawn]

afaik in terms of when stuff was added to the canon, the bfs predate noctilith/wider use of the blackstone term by quite a bit

theres also a chaos terrain piece

[tired cairn]

Maybe the Deceiver just sent a letter going "hey, check out these cool superweapons" and that counts as subtle maniupulation by 40k standards

[jaunty dawn]

so its kinda like, warp unobtanium that can be used for many different things

bf is bfg lore while noctilith and use by necrons is like 8th ed lore

bringing a few plot threads together

[tired cairn]

What is Blackstone (the prison) related to Blackstone (the material) at all?

[jaunty dawn]

i don think there is a stated connection no. hmm

ah wait no reading. yes blackstone the prison incorporates Blackstone mined from cadia

[lofty warren]

They dont have the chain feed though, no?

[jaunty dawn]

hi have drums yeah

so does the devestator veteran from the new command squad

[lofty warren]

Laaaame

[solemn gull]

Can’t wait for the khorne berzerker to just yank the belt out of your gun

[lofty warren]

If you have a heavy bolter and a khorne berzerker gets that close something has gone terribly wrong anyways

[soft willow]

https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1779544596172689822?t=C0lwVo6wK9ADgI1MNXHYkQ&s=19

Warhammer Official (@warhammer) on X

@Idk721252 Since the first of the Ten Thousand were created, there have always been female Custodians.

Twitter · Apr 14, 2024, 4:17 PM

[floral herald]

dang it my jokes

https://fxtwitter.com/CYANNotTheColor/status/1779562524578288028

[pastel rampart]

http://puu.sh/K4VZ0/e731c3f888.png

lmao

"sHoW yOuR wOrK"

[jaunty dawn]

the sisters of silence thing is even less applicable than the space marine/sob comparisons

even if the organisations are actually connected somewhat

it's just like

lazy regurgitated arguments

[pastel rampart]

It's the dumbest and funniest thing because guaranteed 95% of these fuckers didn't give a shit about the SoS until like 5 minutes ago.

[jaunty dawn]

it's also like

if new custodes models had been announced I could maybe see the 'flesh out the sos!' angle but they haven't???

it's a two page spread my dudes

[lofty warren]

they are literally james workshop dude they are the work

[pastel rampart]

It's like they think it as a zero-sum game and that a female custodes means SoS lose out and it doesn't work like that.

[lofty warren]

i saw some "why are they giving us a sisters of silence detachment noone cares" floating around and like. maybe not the same people but def the mood was way less

[jaunty dawn]

for real

[lofty warren]

rah rah

[lofty warren]

also they see it as like

a reasonable wedge

[jaunty dawn]

it's just like

something that wasn't an issue a week ago

and half of these people are grifters so feel they have to make it an issue but they haven't even given it any thought so they're just saying female space marine shit with the names changed

[lofty warren]

its an arguement they think can catch people who are not already all-in on anti-woke

[pastel rampart]

I do understand some of the more reasonable discontent of "there should've been some named female custodes back in the HH books" and like, yeah! There should've! But we can have some now and that's a good thing.

[lofty warren]

its actually interesting because we are i think in the most gamergate moment of post-gamergate

[jaunty dawn]

gw should indeed stop making extremely weird decisions in the name of some misguided brand synergy strategy its true

[pastel rampart]

We should've had some goddamn female marines in the HH books too, or when Primaris came around, but GW fumbled the ball on both of those.

[lofty warren]

gw is a fuck up company

literally what do we expect

[pastel rampart]

Yeah lmao

[jaunty dawn]

(referring to the fact that writers were told not to make any female custodes characters cause they didn't have models)

[pastel rampart]

Someone did bring up that there's no custodes kill team yet and that might be a golden opportunity to include a female custodes model.

Might even be a prelude to one.

[jaunty dawn]

we're gonna see so many yndrasta conversions in custodes now

which is a good thing

stormcast rock

[lofty warren]

i think this put the over/under on female space marines way closer to soon than never

[pastel rampart]

brb making an all-female custodes force swinging lesbian flags around.

[lofty warren]

stormcast completely lose me with their face helmets with the little crest

[junior summit]

there are problems with SoS as a detachment because they don't have enough units to make it work

there are....five? SoS units

[jaunty dawn]

one of them is a rhino

[lofty warren]

reads to me like they are going to add more but havent had em prepped for the codex

but idk

[junior summit]

could be

wouldn't be surprised to hear that some of this is prep work but it's like the kroot detachment where they don't have the unit diversity to make it function

[lofty warren]

all the hatless stormcast are good

[jaunty dawn]

eh

[lofty warren]

all the hatted are bad

its remarkable

[jaunty dawn]

I think they do they just didn't

like if they'd kept prosecutors universally battleline and had the detachment extend that to the other units

and given the detachment juiced but expensive enhancements basically taking them from one hq unit to 3 of 4

its just they did not do that is all

but there are plenty of SoS heresy units that need models

mainly the jetbike I think cause there isn't even art of it

[spice flicker]

Am I the only one who thinks the astreaus is a little disappointing this edition?

[rocky shale]

https://twitter.com/SnipeTheSorrow/status/1779567451107164177?t=aBthZGSaGCZzEQMUYSNCEQ&s=19

Frankie “Snipe” Starwars (@SnipeTheSorrow) on X

I’m sorry? FEMALE CUSTODES??

What’s next?? Female super heroes? Female movie characters??

FEMALE WOMEN?!???

It’s political correctness gone WOKE ffs

Twitter · Apr 14, 2024, 5:48 PM

[solemn gull]

Is it weird to be pro-female custodes but not female space marine?

[pastel rampart]

I guess it depends on your rationale for it.

[solemn gull]

The custodes are made in a much more refined way and are over all less stupidly grimdark. Meanwhile space marines are the imperiums roided out biological murder machines. Having this system of making space marines suffer from quality factors kind of fits? Also the imperium shooting themselves in the foot just seems on brand.

[quaint compass]

I'm pretty on the same board as the Cheese

[solemn gull]

In a meta sense also, the imperium having obtuse strict gender rules seems kind of on brand?

[past sphinx]

I like to think that sire you could do female space marines but the imperium is so stupid that nobody could ever think of doing it

[solemn gull]

The imperium at large is backwards and destroying itself

Yeah totally

[past sphinx]

Like simply couldn't enter their mind

[solemn gull]

But the custodes honestly seem alright from the little I know of them. They read books and play sports in their spare time

Or like

Chat with people

[past sphinx]

I think marines should be off putting in their masculinity, horrific, a malformed thing bent to a single intent and broken

They should be treated in the same matter and Nids IMO

[solemn gull]

As in people treat them as nids or they are a hivemind?

[past sphinx]

You don't draw people to play nids out of empathy or seeing yourself in them you play nids because they Radical fucked up murder monsters

[south axle]

Some chapters of Marines do mingle with the populace of their home worlds in some ways

[solemn gull]

That is very much the exception

[south axle]

Ye

[solemn gull]

It’s why I’m pretty interested in the ultramarines and salamanders that try to re-connect with their humanity or maintain connection with civilization

[pastel rampart]

Cawl is probably the only one alive who could reasonably have tried it and either found it worked or made it work, but GW didn't really jump at the chance by having primaris be unisex.

[south axle]

I do enjoy Cyan's take that without Big E's influence the Custodes figured out that hey, women are bad ass too

[solemn gull]

Cawl realized the imperium wasn’t ready for him to drop +50% recruiting

[pastel rampart]

Or Cawl wanted to keep all the 8ft muscle mommies to himself.

[solemn gull]

I don’t like that type of fetishization that’s so prevalent in the community

[past sphinx]

I'm still banking on gene hound units for CSM

[pastel rampart]

Giving Fabulous Bile some units of his own would rule, honestly. Especially a return of the New Men.

[pastel rampart]

Fair, though it's safe to assume that me posting wild-ass takes like that are a joke and not to be taken seriously.

[unreal cosmos]

My FSM take is they already exist but they're like Discworld dwarfs and are expected to still look and act masc and answer to he/him

[past sphinx]

"Nice pronouns did your genefather give em to ya"

[remote wharf]

Even funnier some grifters are going "Where's the male Sisters of Silence?!" when that basically already exist. They're called Culexus assassins. The only female one I can find is a lab created pariah, Iota.

[still warren]

A Mister of Silence if you will

[pastel rampart]

"Where's the male SoS?" Good idea let's add them.

Every attempt at a gotcha from the grifters should be met with that sort of reaction.

[jaunty dawn]

I think there's a lot more like

substance to space marine brotherhood n stuff

while custodes are just ppl really

my preference is honestly that fsm don't 'happen' but only if that's part of gw like remphasising the lost boys thing and the emperor's misogyny etc etc

and also uhhh fixing the biology on that

which would probably mean afab marines existing but being indoctrinated into Brother

but! that's never gonna happen haha

so I'd rather they just remove a kinda pointless barrier if they're too cowardly to go for it

[untold swallow]

absolutely amazing

[pastel rampart]

Yeah. And also custodes do the whole "espionage" stuff that SM aren't really equipped or trained for, so having more than one gender in their ranks allows for greater espionage/spy stuff opportunities.

[pulsar cairn]

WHAT ARE THOOOOOSE

oh wait

necron stuff?

[jaunty dawn]

possibly

might be eldar

they're robots that live in the blackstone fortresses as security

[floral herald]

The Talismans of Vaul were Eldar stuff iirc

[jaunty dawn]

it's a Mystery but they seem to be

and like that was originally the only possibility really

[crisp lance]

https://vxtwitter.com/laha_jeet/status/1779363461727695175?t=SUvThCtb8jZiA1VfxV91gw&s=19

[past sphinx]

i cant find any good fucking heads for them

and thats a shame

[tepid stratus]

You know it only makes sense that the hand crafted demi gods meant to be the pinnacle of humanity include women. Also I dig the headcannon that gayest man in the galaxy aka big E made the first generation exclusively male (thus not contradicting the old line of them being made from the sons of Terran nobility) and that only after he's out of action that the gene alchemists can include women vindicating malcador's dream of super women

[dense sedge]

female custodes were canonized?

[tepid stratus]

Yes!

At least 2 are named in the lore section of the new codex

[jaunty dawn]

sfdghj just hit me that 'canonised' is kinda funny phrasing

cause saints

[jaunty dawn]

Interpreting this to mean constantin valdor is 'female'

since the very first? 👀

quotes cause that could mean so many different things

[floral herald]

🏳️‍⚧️ ?

[solemn gull]

I don’t know any other way to interpret that

[jaunty dawn]

since the first :)

[solemn gull]

Valdor is a blind spot from me was he the first custodes?

[jaunty dawn]

he's considered the first

it's unclear if he was the first to work or the first ever

but the emperor did like an entire campaign to get Him specifically

[runic swallow]

He’s a Big Deal guy at a minimum

Did he survive to M41 or nah?

[floral herald]

Valdor is currently MIA since shortly after the siege of terra iirc

[runic swallow]

He’s doing the biggest, most elaborate Blood Game ever

[pastel rampart]

He may or may not be the King in Yellow.

[upper canopy]

He is I think confirmed to be the King In Yellow

Jinx

[runic swallow]

…explain further

Is this related to the Bequin trilogy at all or nah?

[solemn gull]

Wait like the lovecraft mythos one?

[runic swallow]

Also, did that trilogy ever get finished?

[floral herald]

Bequin stuff yeah

Not related to the lovecraft one very much

[runic swallow]

Abnet likes to throw in outside stuff

Which honestly, respect, make everyone else get interested in your other interests

[thin ibex]

Starter army built off of the vanguard box. Thoughts? I'm unsure if at 1k is better to have a second monster or a caster

[past sphinx]

i think hes trying to get the emperors true name

for some reason

[thin ibex]

Yeah that's what king in yellow is after

Wants to use it for enuncia

[ebon forge]

I finished Master of Mankind
Some parts dragged on for a bit too long but it gave great insight on the custoders and Big E himself, making him more interesting and Custodes as well.

Also by design the golden throne would eat psykers , huh.
Poor Skoia

It's basically special coffins they enter and get drained like batteries

[ebon forge]

And Land is a fucking incel

Oh right, sister of silence

[pulsar cairn]

neat!

[raw vessel]

Its a bit funny to see people go "Do you think GW can just change the lore so it appeals to more people?" As if that's not what the entirety of 40k lore is.

Like do you think GW outright saying "yeah we're bringing as many Primarchs to 40k as we can." Was a move motivated by the narrative depth that would bring or by how popular they were in the Horus Heresy.

[pastel rampart]

GW changes lore all the time so all those complaints fall on deaf ears.

[unreal cosmos]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/15/fulfil-your-oaths-and-slaughter-the-weakling-servants-of-sigmar-with-these-darkoath-rules/ these rules seem neat!

[jaunty dawn]

they are pretty cool!

[thin ibex]

The primarchs were one just like regular dudes once upon a time right? Like leman russ was just a lieutenant in like the rogue trader Era

[past sphinx]

Just powerful generals and the emperor was created by a daot scientist

[tepid stratus]

Girl really wants to earn that fourth name

[sweet solar]

https://twitter.com/JoCat105/status/1779793997059248460

JoCat (@JoCat105) on X

That is battle brother Oopsiedaisius of the Lamenters
and he was my first Astartes

Twitter · Apr 15, 2024, 8:48 AM

[solemn gull]

Necromunda keeps winning

[runic swallow]

That aide has the face of “oh god, if this noble asshole keeps this up I swear I’m gonna-“

[solemn gull]

I think that’s just a rogue doc model

[jaunty dawn]

he's a fixer

[runic swallow]

Still, I love how grumpy he looks

[jaunty dawn]

other guy isn't a real noble iirc

just good enough at pretending to be one that he can get you in with alliances n such

[runic swallow]

LMAO

[jaunty dawn]

especially if having an alliance is uh,, illegal for you

[solemn gull]

I love that hanger-on

Can’t you also get rid of him to dodge an outlaw status from a framing action

[jaunty dawn]

yup

I think

[solemn gull]

Hanger-ons are always my favourite characters

[jaunty dawn]

I'm thinking about making a van saar brute handler

who's actually a mech suit mechanic

can't think why they'd have a shock whip though

[junior robin]

extension cord

[upper canopy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1202482273639731221/1229439831294218291/voy_marine-m2.png?ex=662fb011&is=661d3b11&hm=c1264190132bfb81272f92dca3810ee96c5c6a152ef4a44d7a529da0a21c62db&

Tor Sobieski has been CREATED

[quaint compass]

BABY

[jaunty dawn]

nice!!!

[upper canopy]

https://twitter.com/K_Iragana_A

𝗞𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗮 𝗔𝗺𝘂𝗮𝗻 ⚡𝘊𝘖𝘔𝘔𝘚 OPEN⚡ (@K_Iragana_A) on X

Warhammer 40,000/ Fantasy Illustrator Kristina Amuan │ Philippines │ She/Her/Cis │[email protected]

Twitter

if anyone else would like their Space Marine drawn she's great

[solemn gull]

Is this from that deathwatch WanG game you ran?

[upper canopy]

Cyan ran it

I was in it

[solemn gull]

Oh

[unreal cosmos]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/15/the-ruination-chamber-opens-the-reclusians-are-the-most-battle-hardened-stormcast-eternals-yet/ uh oh, this might have sold me

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832649952471285841/1229431414290907186/image.png?ex=662fa83a&is=661d333a&hm=b9ae9941a6a8b4d4c7e0fdebd603047b3a4d50f9175c0be60ab2597f79e97b62& "your elite veterans are so far gone that they need to be escorted by their actual grandchildren" is such an angle

Both more and less human than Astartes

[quaint compass]

Oh I didn't scroll down that far

That's really neat

[jaunty dawn]

oooooh

okay thes are awesome

[still warren]

"That's nice grandpa now back to skaven killing duty"

[unreal cosmos]

Really great way to sell the concept, I wasn't sure how they were going to do elites when the whole army is already golden demigods

[quaint compass]

"Yes-yes Grandfatherthing. Kill-slay the fool-heretics."

[unreal cosmos]

Feels like the faction identity might finally be clicking all the way into place

[jaunty dawn]

they have so much scrungleeee

[storm schooner]

hmmm if the Sigmar boys are going the old man route I might get some

[jaunty dawn]

pfff

[still warren]

I'm still hoping for lighting gheists

[jaunty dawn]

split the start box with fennec

[tepid stratus]

I dig the little details like the icons of grungni being replaced with skulls. These guys are absolutely dead men walking in all but name

[floral herald]

They have a grass toucher assistant that’s great

[jaunty dawn]

what do old stormcast grognard about

[floral herald]

But yeah also “ancient superlative warrior ancestor who needs a descendant to work anchor to keep any fragment of humanity” is extremely sick

[tepid stratus]

Not being able to remember what they are so pissed off about

[storm schooner]

old stormcast like "back in my day, cities were on the ground"

[south axle]

Best thing with Stormacasts getting shown today: I can look forward to new Skaven preview in a week

[floral herald]

That seems like hyperbole but it’s sort of funny

Index stodes have been very strong

[pastel rampart]

https://twitter.com/cavegift/status/1779937140178129126

laura “💖” cavegift (@cavegift) on X

getting mad at warhammer meanwhile your ex-wife is raising your kids alone, you're worrying about the wrong female custodies

Twitter · Apr 15, 2024, 6:17 PM

[floral herald]

Lmfao

[pulsar cairn]

The Old Lion is actually a good dad

And im all here for it

[floral herald]

10,000 years in the sleepy chamber made him a fucking normal person

(I butchered that a little too much I think)

[thin ibex]

man, fem custodes just feels like the weakest thing to get upset about when it comes to warhammer

[pulsar cairn]

LMAO

I want some more tales like that

of the lion doing stuff

specially since he's actually at the front lines right?

[pastel rampart]

We haven't gotten much info past him waking up and duking it out with Angron.

Hell, I don't think him and Robby G have seen each other in person yet.

[floral herald]

I'm not sure what he's up to these days

[pulsar cairn]

he's still with the legion, no?

[floral herald]

The whole son of the forest book was him and like a dozen or two cool fallen he'd linked up with and his "protectorate of the lion" he was founding in the Imperium Nihilus

He links up with Dante at the end of the book

And that's set before the AoO part where he shows up with them to save the Unforgiven at Wyrmwood

But the protectorate of the lion still exists and he's still got Forestwalk

So I expect he's dealing with a lot of legion headaches since he's basically gotta try to idk

Deradicalize his own legion?

[thin ibex]

"Guys, not everything has to be a secret"

[pulsar cairn]

or at the very least change their focus

[ebon forge]

oh hey so they really are going white Storncast now?

I remember a guy saying GW might go with white stormcast because of lore reasons

[jaunty dawn]

as in silver?

[ebon forge]

yes

[tepid stratus]

It's silver not white. They're the hallowed knights stormhost. A strange mix of hyper devout fanatics and self sacrificial heroes. Think the love child of the salamanders and black templars for lack of better analogy

Given those tendencies it makes sense for them to be the poster faction for the release of the ruination chamber and focus on the flaws of reforging

[ebon forge]

yeah, I read even non-fighters in life could become those guys

[tepid stratus]

"Only the faithful"

Both their recruiting motto and war cry lol

[ebon forge]

Skaven that worship Sigmar when

[pulsar cairn]

saw some more weird takes

but at this point im just laughing

[ebon forge]

I am joking of course

[pulsar cairn]

not talking about you

more about people bitching about female custodes

and im like...why does it have to be such a big deal?

[ebon forge]

It's just a win in my book

unisexa rmor is best armor

[pulsar cairn]

i always liked the custodes and now i just have more reasons to like them

[ebon forge]

Same

[floral herald]

I think the funniest one to come out of it which wasn't just like "chuds mad" was someone describing Custodes armor as androgynous

[pulsar cairn]

custodes are genetically altered humans too, so like

idk

there's not much to be said, everything here is...simple i think

[runic swallow]

Wait until they see the unisex armor of the woke, hyper-liberal, communist… US military?

[pulsar cairn]

they made the armor with the alterations in mind so it fits every custodes

[tepid stratus]

Their creation is arcane alchemy. Each one a bespoke creation, there's no template to follow like astartes are restricted to

[pulsar cairn]

are other custodes responsible for making more custodes?

[floral herald]

No there's special labs on terra which have been making them since before the great crusade

[tepid stratus]

Nah there's a specific group of gene alchemists in the palace that create them

[ebon forge]

in 1e leman russ was a guardsman that got promoted to space marine

[floral herald]

But they're all one-off masterpieces of arcane science and genetics

[long void]

They're the Rolls-Royce of genemodding

[runic swallow]

Nah, some kind of bespoke supercar

[pastel rampart]

Custodes are artisanal, marines are mass-produced, to make an imperfect analogy.

[floral herald]

Oh I meant more that custodes armor is very masc-coded

[tepid stratus]

Their gear is all individualized to the point other custodes can't wield them. When they die or retire the armour and weapons are enshrined in a vault as far as I remember

[floral herald]

sculpted pec breastplates and such

[ebon forge]

"Brother where is my cod piece"
"Your WHAT"
"IT WAS CUSTOM MADE BROTHER"

Sorry

[runic swallow]

This is an organic, fair trade, no-GMO, gluten free, keto super soldier thank you very much

[pastel rampart]

Despite releasing in 2016 their proportions are very 2008.

[tepid stratus]

Yeah I question how long those sculpts had been on the shelf before release

[past sphinx]

they look better in pwerson

[floral herald]

Yeah

[past sphinx]

mainly due to the size of the fuckers

[floral herald]

I think I'm probably gonna get a box of em but I'm gonna paint em up with a reddish brass color not the gold

[south axle]

The two best Custodes sculpts, imo, are the Allarus and the Blade Champ

[pastel rampart]

General rule of thumb with GW sculpts is that they've been in the production line for at least 2 years prior to release, so they probably went through multiple design phases as early as 2012.

[floral herald]

or at least that darker kind of "dirty gold"

[runic swallow]

Ah, blanch colors

[floral herald]

Admittedly "paint em like a john blanche art piece" is a time honored way to get sick as fuck models

[south axle]

I got my hands on some Balthasar Rose Gold earlier today

[ebon forge]

Goth boots

[floral herald]

The "blanchite" SoB army is one of the most inspiring hobby armies I've seen

[pastel rampart]

https://bsky.app/profile/freyjavalentine.bsky.social/post/3kq72e2mkvp2w

[past sphinx]

yeah that about covers it

[long void]

Blanche used a lot of Zorn Palette colors.

yellow ochre, ivory black, cadmium red, and titanium white.

they can be mixed into a range of shades

[pine matrix]

Is there a Mordheim equivalent of Monolith? I guess the Chaos Cults who follow be'lakor?

[pastel rampart]

Probably so, yeah

The Shadow Prince/Be'lakor was trapped in a giant slab of wyrdstone while he was in Mordheim so that's as close as I think you can get.

[pine matrix]

"Come to me. Your path is coming to an end. Come to me."

[past sphinx]

Blanchitsu (degrogitory)

/s

im a fan of the modelling they do but fucking hell when i think john blanche muted colors isnt on the list

[cinder wraith]

hello, how good is dark angels competitively?

[past sphinx]

bottom of the barrel

[cinder wraith]

so bad?

[past sphinx]

meh

they lost of index kit

[cinder wraith]

not good not bad or just ignore?

[past sphinx]

the models are cool enough to not worry about win rate

they sit at a nice 56% with skew lists

[brittle salmon]

They lost Apothecaries in their terminator squads and Knights got gutted

[bright dove]

They're fine casually

[cinder wraith]

GT or WTC?

[floral herald]

They're actually pretty middle of the pack

But not competitively strong

the big armies to beat atm are necrons, stodes, 1ksons, SoB, BTs and Tau

[cinder wraith]

im thinking about converting and building lionel as Angron from lionel heresy so i thought maybe i can use him for competitive but idk the scene of dark angels meta or competitive

[floral herald]

Oh and daemons

[cinder wraith]

i doubt i'll use black templars now due to how busted ironstorm templars are (despite the nerfed the wrong units)

[floral herald]

If you're not planning on competing don't worry too much about competitive viability

No armies suck too much for friendlies/casual play

And tournament lists are generally real specific

[cinder wraith]

im thinking about competing in june

[past sphinx]

yeah tourny lists are running like several flyers and such

[cinder wraith]

so atm i have time to prepare

[floral herald]

Oh, hard to say then, given there's a balance datasheet before then

[cinder wraith]

most likely

[past sphinx]

points changes could really fuck up what youd want to buy

[cinder wraith]

im buying the primarch but other than that im not sure

[past sphinx]

are you specificly wanting to convert for dornian heresy?

[cinder wraith]

*lionel

yeah but at the same time i want to see whats the competitive scene now that its more calm from try hards

the local one at least

[floral herald]

overall DAs are totally viable you just need to do the space marine meta thing

And BTs kinda do that better since Sword Brethren are so goated

[cinder wraith]

i see

i hate iron storm

they should've nerfed that instead of templars smh

anyways thanks yall

i will have to wait for my actual codices to come out

[floral herald]

Templars are just strong as hell in general

[cinder wraith]

(world eaters, templars, chaos knights)

[tired cairn]

https://fxtwitter.com/IRHotTakes/status/1779988963509293321

[pastel rampart]

And many more will!

[glacial wasp]

:3

I will probably be getting many minis from a friend as a gift

Also hello!

[late vigil]

Hello, sorry new here

is this the uh

"Wth is the community doing today" area?

[glacial wasp]

It indeed is

[late vigil]

Ah yes

good

[glacial wasp]

I think

Im new too

[ruby token]

being deranged as usual

[tired cairn]

Generally we don't focus on the topic. But sometimes someone says something so dumb it's hard not to lol

[late vigil]

Me wanting to enjoy my Farsight enclaves in peace less war

[floral herald]

It’s been a big topic with the new custodes codex

[late vigil]

that is a lie, I’m a college student with no income. Enjoyment is more staring at them

[glacial wasp]

There is one good thing that came out of it tho. Some thumbnails from people malding over it are hilarious

Like that arch one

[late vigil]

Like?

???

[ruby token]

the ai gay space marine goes HARD

[glacial wasp]

This jewel

[ruby token]

yeaaaaaah

[glacial wasp]

IT DOESSSS

[late vigil]

HA THAT MARINE LOOKS FUCKING STUPID I LOVE OT

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE POOR GENTLETHEM’S FACE

[glacial wasp]

I live in a third world country with no stores selling minis

I got shafted

[late vigil]

Man… I’m sorry, that really sucks!

[glacial wasp]

I would need to import stuff from the UK or the US

Eeeh it's ok

[late vigil]

Still good to commiserate

[glacial wasp]

A fren of mine is sending me some fire warriors and drones as a gift tho

Gonna get my hands into painting

Oh and a alpha legion paint scheme land raider

Possibly some sonoritas

[late vigil]

All I’ve learned is I find lancer players in Warhammer by “do they like the T’au or Tyrannids”

So far if either is true, there’s a good chance

[glacial wasp]

I like Tau lol

[late vigil]

Same same

[past sphinx]

i have a couple thousand points of tau but dont collect them anymore

[late vigil]

Favorite faction

[pastel rampart]

I've painted more factions than I've owned.

[late vigil]

The one with brains who realized that melee is a horrible idea when you can just- just shoot them

Why would you chain sword them? Shoot them SHOOT THEM

[glacial wasp]

Actually, i was gonna have a Rogue Trader game, where I was planning on making a makeshift dreadnaught using a tau xv8 battlesuit, retrofitted to have a big fuck off bolter replacing an arm

Sadly the dm had to drop the game before starting

Probably not lore complaiant

[ruby token]

if it wasn’t ai it’d be my pfp

[glacial wasp]

If it was, it would be highly heretical

[glacial wasp]

Mhmm

Maybe you could make a commission of it. Display the big gay banana man on all its non-AI glory

[late vigil]

Waitwaitwait

If you compiled a bunch of those images

And then images of each chapter of space marine

You could train an AI off of that to make each chapter’s version of that glorious gay banana marine

[past sphinx]

real talk how fucking long did it take for him to get that image

[glacial wasp]

Yoooo

[late vigil]

Call it the “Gay Marine Simulator”

Or

You know

GMS

[past sphinx]

how specific did the prompts need to be

[glacial wasp]

Probably pretty fast, considering how rage inducing the concept of women can be to one of these chuds

Adds some extra speed when typing

[late vigil]

Oh god please don’t make it a stacking buff, they’ll get -1AP and reroll 1s before too long

Not cause they’re any kind of right, but because they’re just more annoying that way

[late vigil]

I’d imagine very

And even then the AI missed a few parts

Unrelated but does anyone have a favorite battle suit for the Tau?

[jaunty dawn]

I like xv9 hazards

I wanna try redesigning them in line with the ghostkeel

[thin ibex]

yeah would be cool to see a redesign/rerelease for them

i think my current favorites sit between broadside and ghostkeel

ghostkeel just has such excelklent vibes

[white mural]

God I want her to slay me as me and my brood sisters storm the imperial palace

[jaunty dawn]

I also really like both stealth battlesuits, and have a huge soft spot for how they were done in dawn of war with xv15 shas'uis led by an xv25 shas'vre

[thin ibex]

yeah i loved that too

kinda wish we still had the old head ones

[jaunty dawn]

the xv25 in general I just think is really awesome and is like a timeless design just by having such compelling elements

[white mural]

XV9 is so aesthetic

[late vigil]

I love GhostKeels

Take a tank, make it fucking invisible, strap missiles and a big gun to delete anything that moves too much

[pulsar cairn]

Ya know

Custodes being bio engineered

Just make them even more banana like

[jaunty dawn]

...that's very true

[soft willow]

https://tenor.com/view/ameno-meme-thinking-hmmm-gif-3844418297646103366

[white mural]

Look I can now use female custodes to get the lesbian I’ve been flirting with to get into 40K more

[pulsar cairn]

How do i explain the banana thing to Ecllection?

[white mural]

Just send them the series

[jaunty dawn]

I think they get it

just think emoji-ing

[pulsar cairn]

Oh fair

[ruby token]

god please

[ebon forge]

Wow, seeing the astartes initiation is magical

[proud wing]

is the show out already?

or is that just a trailer

[uneven ember]

It's out

[proud wing]

what do you think the odds are that the primary reason GW announced female custodes now was to create big internet drama to get free publicity for the show

[jaunty dawn]

why would gw want to make publicity for the fallout show

[floral herald]

I think they're low

[proud wing]

i was referring to the warhammer show, which i had just asked about

oh, is the screenshot from the fallout show and it was just a joke?

[jaunty dawn]

ye

[proud wing]

ah, i thought the power armor looked more fallout than warhammer, but i'd never seen a red and gold BoS banner before

[jaunty dawn]

but yeah also the thing is gw didn't announce female custodes

they just did some damage control tweets after the fact really

because it's kinda a non event

[proud wing]

i mean, it is something warhammer people have talked about for years

being officially confirmed for the first time

[past sphinx]

we will see if that show actually manifests

[jaunty dawn]

apparently as of december the current stage is up to a year of amazon and gw deciding what they even want to do in the first place

(according to stockholder report)

[past sphinx]

noble knight is a silly place

a silly anti union place

[floral herald]

Huh?

I am not very familiar with them

[past sphinx]

theyre one of the larger new and used hobby retailers in the US

the union did eventually kick thier teeth in enough

their prices are still the worst out of everbody however

they will however willingly sell you a single intercessor for some reason

a strange vendor

[upper bluff]

Is it assembled?

Because being able to buy a single model worth of pieces might be nice for kit bashing a leader

[past sphinx]

yeah

also their pretty good if you looking for like old codex's and such

[uneven ember]

They didn't announce it, they just included a lady Custodes in the new Codex.
& then confirmed by tweet that this was one of the "they've been here the whole time, right over there, strange you didn't notice" things like 99.99% of what gets added to the fluff.

[jaunty dawn]

exactly

[proud wing]

how is that not an announcement? like, even if they didn't make a big deal out of it, that's still them giving an update to the lore that a lot of people had been asking for

[jaunty dawn]

cause it wasn't announced

[proud wing]

maybe i wasn't using the word "announce" perfectly, but it was still them making a decision that they knew the fans would have a strong reaction to

[jaunty dawn]

a weird internal editorial stance was lifted and someone wrote a story they wanted to

and then debacles on the internet happened so pr had to do a pr

like the only reason we even know about this before street date is because of third party reviews

[past sphinx]

Now if they had released that short story was a Warhamer community post to hype the codex

but people literally zoom enhanced it off a blurred page

[jaunty dawn]

the reason I make the distinction is because like

being conspiratorial about it takes it out of proportion imo

custodes aren't space marines

[past sphinx]

boy do i hate the "well i think its pandering because they cant have female marines" take

[jaunty dawn]

and the only reason we didn't get a female custodes earlier has lot less to do with lore and a lot more to do with some kind of brand synergy strategy and like keeping options open or something?

[past sphinx]

pretty much simply that they didnt have female heads on the guard sprue

[jaunty dawn]

we're talking about a faction that has existed in a fleshed out form for like 5 seconds

[past sphinx]

ADB did a short reddit thread about it the other day, i think i could rustle it up

[jaunty dawn]

and like, not to accuse you of anything serval, but it kinda accepts the framing that this is a big deal lore change that is the basis of the whole drama

when really it's just something frankly weird has finally stopped and been concluded

it has more in common with like box restricted weapon options weirdness than anything else

[thin ibex]

Hmm wanna do a space marine army tonight. Anyone got a theme or a unit to make core to the list

[brittle salmon]

Phobos units but you need to make a well rounded army with appropriate anti tank

[thin ibex]

Got it

[thin ibex]

Reliant on synergies

And twin linked auto canons

And ultimately, punching with invictor fists

But with a lot of +1 to hit, +1 to wound, and various sources of rerolls and lethal hits

[brittle salmon]

Neat, I like it

[thin ibex]

You know you don't see a lot of vindicators on high level lists despite the firepower. Guess cause of the range and being outclassed by the lancer at much longer range

[mental birch]

how fast does it move?

the vindicator?

[thin ibex]

9"

[mental birch]

I can see why it's so meh

[thin ibex]

Yeah, claim to fame is the s14 gun with 4 minimum shots that can be fired into engagement

D6 damage is swingy, 24" range is short for what it is

Not a lot of extra fire power on it either

[ebon forge]

Season 1 is out, but is the Fallout show

I am mostly poking fun how since Fallout 4 they got elements from WH40 and integrated to the BoS

specially in F4 where they went full Imperium of man, Maxson straight up is very 40k-esq

[jaunty dawn]

f4 bos is pretty much just the bos

the washington dc chapter during the time of fallout 3 is very much the outlier

[ebon forge]

I found them more autoritarian than the bos of f1 and f2

Mostly by Maxson itself honestly

But then in the TV show the rituals and straight up religious aspects in some parts look more and more like 40k

[jaunty dawn]

they just got their messiah back

[ebon forge]

Maybe they are more like that in f2? I need to play f2 again
but in f1 I never got that vibe

[jaunty dawn]

like the main bos character you know from fnv has pretty much all but defected because of homophobia

I mean they've always been like

not as Bad as the enclave

[ebon forge]

Oh yeah 100%
Enclave is cartoony bad
But I though in 4 they went a bit too hard , you know?

[jaunty dawn]

Fair

[pulsar cairn]

It's cool to see the perspective of the former enclave soldiers in new vegas

[ebon forge]

Agreed!
New vegas was fun

[pulsar cairn]

Also the brotherhood was always kinda of bad but they sort of just get turned into the enclave in f4

They were always bad but for different reasons

[ebon forge]

yeah, i am not saying they were all good and rainbows

[pulsar cairn]

I know i know

that's something we can also apply to a lot of 40k factions

[ebon forge]

Not the Orks
They are just goofy balls
They are the best and morally neutral /j

[pulsar cairn]

Bad for different reasons

[ebon forge]

Agreed.
It's 'choose your poison' in 40k really
And trying to find the 'morally correct' one is losing the point of the setting

[jaunty dawn]

yeah that's valid, sorry I kinda jumped the gun

[ebon forge]

It's fine
At least you didn't jumped the shark

[jaunty dawn]

pff

[ebon forge]

Or how we
Gamers
Say
Punched the boulder

[pulsar cairn]

Chris Redfield

[jaunty dawn]

Claire Redfield :)

[ebon forge]

Boulder-kun ❤️

An Ogryn best friend

[pulsar cairn]

🪨

[dense sedge]

New gsc stuff it looks like

[tepid stratus]

Idk gives me elves vibes

[unreal cosmos]

Could be a lot of things

[jaunty dawn]

agree with anthropodlogist though

like it has a little carapace motif

[dense sedge]

I paint gsc, I recognize these parts immediately

[tepid stratus]

For me it's the shaft of the staff and the gubbins hanging from it that are used in a lot of elf and slaanesh stuff

Is shaft the correct term or an I just being slaanesh brained? Anyways EC stuff got announced to be axed from CSM so EC this edition is basically confirmed

[jaunty dawn]

None Can Say

[floral herald]

Interesting

What article is that from?

[jaunty dawn]

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/16/play-the-chosen-of-slaanesh-in-chaos-space-marines-armies-with-index-emperors-children/

just a pre announcement for index emps childs

the magus has a pretty identical hanging gem thing

oh the disk too

[tepid stratus]

Ah, good old GW recycling designs

[azure heron]

The snot crystals...

[jaunty dawn]

just the modern version of most advanced designs being partially kitbashes of the basic unit

[junior robin]

so codex: emperors children confirmed sometime in the far future when the cows comes home?

[jaunty dawn]

that or emperors children are gonna be slaughtered to the man sometime in the future so they can be removed from the game xP