and it has a book already
#Pathfinder
echo briar
it came out like last year
it would be really weird for them to make a second one so soon
wary yoke
AP set there?
Could also be something related to converting something to a new system again
I know Savage Pathfinder players exist, I've seen them at our store
echo briar
Pathfinder with 5e rules
eager mountain
Yeah
Impossible kingdoms
Vudra
we might be getting a book about Casmaron finnally
echo briar
This was talked about earlier. I think it's unlikely just due to how close it is to the impossible lands.
also just marketing wise, releasing the impossible lands and the impossible kingdoms books so close together might cause consumer confusion.
echo briar
I though it was next door
echo briar
there's only a small ocean in between them
anyways, the brand confusion is an issue. to someone not informed about the setting, both books look like they are part of the non existent "impossible" series, and not an unrelated book about an unrelated place
solar storm
I hope it’s a casmaron book
Absolutely bewildering how little detail the biggest continent has
surreal basin
anyways, the brand confusion is an issue. to someone not informed about the sett...
I mean…. Does it matter that much
echo briar
from a marketing perspective, it very much matters
limber comet
Someone uninformed about the setting probably won't care much about an Impossible Kingdoms book anyways
echo briar
It can however be avoided by just using a different name that does not contain the word "impossible", but that would make the the hint we were given meaningless.
rapid wagon
What do we know about what happens on Casmaron anyhow?
Presumably they've had their own fair share of world defining shit, but of course we don't know what, right?
turbid dagger
Okay I finally hammered out my build for that PVP tournament
They are a level 20 Dhampir Warpriest of Ragathiel with Wildspell
Their core Thing is to True Strike Channel Smite Harm at people, and triggering Burning Surge off their own cast to do an extra 10d6 negative damage to themself and everyone adjacent
Being a Dhampir, this translates to a free extra 10d6 while also channel smiting someone
limber comet
The pit of Gormuz...
eager mountain
that being said cant wait to see if its a casmaron book
the only time ive seen us go into the region is in strange aeons
only for a short time even
silver geyser
And to one specific city.
rapid wagon
So atm going to casmaron is all fan driven?
Or do we go to the rovagug hole in an adventure?
eager mountain
Or do we go to the rovagug hole in an adventure?
nah
no where close
also damn, zombie leshy
who knew a leshy could be a a zombie
echo briar
We've been to earth, we've been to Akiton, the next AP is set on Mars
eager mountain
We've been to earth, we've been to Akiton, the next AP is set on Mars
no its not.
its set in kyonin
echo briar
it could be. That would be impossible
echo briar
its set in kyonin
next one to be announced, not released.
eager mountain
becuase we gotta kill TREERAZER, NASCENT DEMON LORD AND WIELDER OF THE BLACK AXE
echo briar
although revealing that spore war is actually an elaterite bait and switch would fit as something "impossible"
solar storm
That is a cool orc
frank crystal
Cool orc alert
rustic cape
A friend speculated to me that the reason they got rid of Gorum was because his anathema essentially made him the deity of choice for disruptive assholes
Specifically this one: "prevent conflict through negotiation,"
"But it's what my character would do"
frank crystal
Are there rules for Bolas in this game?
rustic cape
trail nova
A friend speculated to me that the reason they got rid of Gorum was because his ...
Honestly, Calistria is still pretty damn good at starting trouble.
rustic cape
Still not as bad as "you are not allowed to negotiate ever"
echo briar
errant roost
alt. Divine
rustic cape
I suppose Spear is just a straight-up barbarian
limber comet
He rages a lot
rustic cape
I feel like Fury is inadequate to cover him tho
Despite nothing else making sense
Tragic
frank crystal
https://2e.aonprd.com/Weapons.aspx?ID=433
thanks
rapid wagon
But
balmy orchid
I am considering making a level 11 character that I have a vibe for but haven't decided on a class for
balmy orchid
Anyways
The vibe is "A noble who is empowered by the spirit of his house's heraldic beast"
silver geyser
What's the heraldic Beast? Because I can feel the suggestion of Barbarian already creeping up for me.
balmy orchid
Haven't decided yet!
rapid wagon
Exemplar with a bit of flavor might be cool
balmy orchid
I am leaning on Bull, Bear, Raven, Wolf, Stag, or Boar
frank crystal
There’s a few ways to do that, imperial sorcerer, bard, summoner if you wanna actually give him that beast as a weapon, I could imagine exemplar too yah
balmy orchid
But also
I was looking at Shifter
and I like the FLAVOR of Shifter but apparently it's Kinda Bad?
silver geyser
Oh, 1e
frank crystal
Ohhhhh
Ok then ignore all the things I said
My only 1e experience is dropping wrath of the righteous after act 1
rapid wagon
Hmm noble but has spirit benefits...
rapid wagon
i think shifter could work tbh
its very much engaging with like natural weapon rules
silver geyser
It's not bad anymore after all the errata
rapid wagon
i didn't hate it when i ran it
but a newb y also ran it and found it pretty confusing
balmy orchid
Martial
I like melee and also the party would probably benefit from another frontliner
balmy orchid
The main ones I'm looking at are Shifter and Feral Champion Warpriest
solar storm
Oh I’m not a 1e knower
rapid wagon
i did a weretouched shifter back in the day, it was fun but i did feel like i wasn't really experiencing shifter proper
since i was dedicated to like
one form
Hunter could be good to?
they have animal focuses as a class feature
balmy orchid
That's fuckin spidaman
Outside of the spider one this seems pretty lackluster
Is Vigilante just sort of a Better Rogue?
surreal basin
Without the dungeon crawling aspects and focused more on social stuff
balmy orchid
QUESTION
It's a Gestalt game apparently
so I could pick two classes simultaniously
sacred bluff
Oh boy
balmy orchid
What could go well with this Warpriest or Shifter idea
echo briar
Is bomb throwing a martial art? Like HEMA is a martial art, not that you are punching bombs at people
light gyro
they probably teach you how to throw grenades in the military, idk if there's like enough to fill out a handbook or anything though
echo briar
Well, you aren’t making the grenadine as you throw them
silver geyser
What could go well with this Warpriest or Shifter idea
Wildsoul Vigilante
surreal basin
Unfortunately Shifter has compatibility issues due to the way that it works in some cases
Oh wow wild soul actually does have synergy tho
Oh you can do some sillies with this
WOW FELINE WILDSOUL
Defensive Roll 9 times a day is absurd
silver geyser
Right?!
surreal basin
Also getting improved uncanny dodge for free what the fuck
silver geyser
And also a lesser version of Pounce, but still!
silver geyser
Tanglefoot bag with better DC is nice
surreal basin
Well, okay, it potentially has uses, just
It’s very weird utility stuff
Over the others which are very straight forward
Oh wow yeah all of these options are pretty good
Feline is by far the best and Ursine is probably the worst
echo briar
Does anyone have any experience with ordering non mint books from Paizo?
Like, it’s $20 cheaper, but with no refunds I am not sure how much damage I should be expecting
silver geyser
Does anyone have any experience with ordering non mint books from Paizo?
Alas, no
trail nova
Oh wow yeah all of these options are pretty good
Huh, my opinion was that with the exception of Feline being solid, and the bird one being okay, they were pretty meh, given that you needed to give up a fair number of vigilante talents for them, which is probably the strongest talent option in the game. Maybe Oracle's are equal?
surreal basin
I mean that do be half of them
And Arachnid isn’t great in combat but I can’t deny it’s out of combat potential
/creative bullshit potential
rustic cape
spoooder
wary yoke
Like, it’s $20 cheaper, but with no refunds I am not sure how much damage I shou...
The one time I did so I got a book with crappy binding
You get what you pay for
Basically I have to keep it sandwiched between other books, or horizontal, not for the binding to get worse
balmy orchid
Is swashbuckler any good?
solar storm
1e or 2e question?
silver geyser
1e
balmy orchid
1e
worthy stump
Parry and Riposte, my beloved
It’s pretty good, yeah
You do kinda get pushed heavily into crit fishing, but that’s already optimal for 1e anyways
And Combat Reflexes does let you parry a bunch, since that uses your AoOs. Makes you pretty hard to pin down in melee as long as you properly invest in your to-hit and Panache pool
balmy orchid
Also would I be able to Swashbuckle whilst mounted?
worthy stump
Uhhh, nothing stops you from doing so as I recall
balmy orchid
A Swashbuckler Cavalier is also in the cards then I see
rustic cape
My GM had a great thought
rustic cape
Someone needs to get on Reynolds's case about his anatomy again
He's the best in the business when someone keeps him centered
errant roost
new archetype: Goblin picklemancer
eager mountain
He's the best in the business when someone keeps him centered
Idk this looks great
echo briar
My GM had a great thought
Bombs are not thrown weapons
rustic cape
Bombs are not thrown weapons
Bombs are martial thrown weapons with a range increment of 20 feet.
https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=3181&Redirected=1
surreal basin
….. yeah damn there you go
rustic cape
It's actually just that they conk the opponent in the head really hard before they explode >_>
Although some barb rages are distinctly magic damage so
surreal basin
Yknow
I wonder if Paizo could track AoN not being updated to an impact on sales/piracy
fossil temple
Wish we had more stuff in her, she always looked like a very interesting deity
worthy stump
Unfortunately, most of the stuff we have on her is, to put it extremely generously, ick
trail nova
Ehh, I kind of get sketched out by the attempts to make her less problematic by making her a supportive deity of outcasts and such, rather than downplay the icky body horror and emphasize that she’s a cult leader preying on the vulnerable.
(Like, yes, the body horror and pregnancy stuff is gross and I support Pazio sweeping it under the rug, but also I don’t think she’s really a good candidate for “oh, she’s just misunderstood”
rustic cape
Aye, I think it's important to stress that while people might go to Lamashtu for understandable reasons, Lamashtu fuckin' sucks and everything she touches gets worse
limber comet
I mean tbf some people want her to redeemed, ala Nocticula
frank crystal
It is extremely thematic
balmy orchid
frank crystal
Zoro is honestly like, the base character I imagine with vigilante
rustic cape
I mean tbf some people want her to redeemed, ala Nocticula
That seems pretty ooc to me tbh
limber comet
Shrug
I have no stakes in the matter
All I know is that one of the monitor gods has a siphonophore as their holy animal and I am ecstatic over that
warped orbit
lmao
frank crystal
What’s that?
limber comet
A siphonophore is like uh
Hm
It's kinda like a jellyfish?
Agh, it's really hard to explain
It's a massive colony of creatures in the jellyfish family
surreal basin
Yeah I would much rather talk about anything other than lamashtu lol
That sounds cool
frank crystal
Neat
frank crystal
Yeah I would much rather talk about anything other than lamashtu lol
I’m designing my world’s bugbears
echo briar
It's a massive colony of creatures in the jellyfish family
Like a man o war?
limber comet
Like a man o war?
Kinda, yeah
balmy orchid
I will say Vigilante appeals if only for the bit of constantly hiding my secret identity from the rest of the party
fossil temple
Hello people, been a while.
I wanted to ask, it has been some time now, what are your experiences with the two new classes?
frank crystal
I’ve yet to be able to play them but I have GMed for an exemplar
And it’s very neat
balmy orchid
Gevaudan, the Prince Rampant, who channels the power of his family's heraldic beast.
And Sancho de Sabueso, who is SECRETLY the flamboyant masked hero known as "The Bright Shade"
are my two main concepts i'm gravitating towards
silver geyser
Nice on both
fossil temple
And it’s very neat
Nice, was afraid he would be too powerful, that's why the 'rare' tag
rustic cape
Rare sometimes means weird and overpowered but usually it just means weird
silver geyser
Like an Android in Tian Xia
frank crystal
Rare *sometimes* means weird and overpowered but usually it just means weird
Has their honestly been an example of a rare thing being intentionally stronger then average?
Not just stronger via poor balance but made to be stronger?
rustic cape
I would say they're less cautious about balance with rare
And so poor balance is slightly more common
frank crystal
I guess so
solar storm
Has their honestly been an example of a rare thing being intentionally stronger ...
I think some of the rare backgrounds are more powerful
At least situationally
turbid dagger
Not just stronger via poor balance but made to be stronger?
The closest thing that jumps to mind is yeah, backgrounds
Like Amnesiac or Discarded Duplicate gets three boosts
limber comet
I wanna make a battle harbinger but picking a god is so hard
rustic cape
The goblin feat Chosen One has the potential to interact very, very strangely with adopted ancestry
warped orbit
What's it do?
rustic cape
Grants you an additional goblin heritage
Probably just wouldn't be allowed on those ground but
I can dream
rustic cape
My GM had a great thought
https://pathbuilder2e.com/launch.html?build=948301 Decided to build this extremely silly idea as an extremely stupid alchemist/barbarian dual class
clever cobalt
My mythic party just ended a boss fight by the Barbarian using Whirling Throw to throw the boss out the window
clever cobalt
that was the exact gif I used lol
echo briar
Why is Nethys’s sacred animal a zebra?
They are not exactly known for being knowledgeable or magic.
rustic cape
Nethys is easily startled and a bad guest at parties
echo briar
Zebras would honestly work better for abadar
His current animal, the monkey, is social enough, but they aren’t exactly the most lawful of the primates
rustic cape
Abadar is not easily startled and is excellent at parties
echo briar
abadars sacred animal should be homo erectus
rustic cape
Abadar’s sacred animal should be cleaning station fish
Since they pretty literally exchange goods for services
rustic cape
Tragically, the special power on amphisbaena hand wraps is manipulate
wary yoke
I want to see a version that has 'monkey' replaced with 'martial' and has the reaction symbol by neuron activation
turbid dagger
I feel like Abadar's sacred animal should be like
A horse, or ox
Something used in labor a lot
limber comet
Kurgess' sacred animal is a horse
I think an ox could fit pretty well, but I assume Abadar doesn't really wanna be "as strong as an ox, and as dumb as one too"
I feel like he went monkeys because they're mostly sociable and are frequently known for tool use
echo briar
I just feel like other primates would fit that better
Chimps for example are usually more social, or gorillas are more hierarchical
rustic cape
Abadar should choose an animal that does capitalism
No wait
Japanese Macaque
Highly social, sophisticated tool use, intensely hierarchical
(Also matriarchal)
rustic cape
Hm, question: would a goblin's Burn It! feat apply to the splash damage from alchemist's fire, in addition to the main damage?
worthy stump
well. i can't see anything that says it wouldn't
echo briar
I wish that if an AP was going to give out new, uncommon spells as a reward, that they would at least make them good.
Like, I’m running SoT, and it likes to give out new spells a lot because magic school. And it gives such great spells like “make animals attack you” and “heroism, but it only targets you, does not work on attack rolls, and immediately ends if you crit fail anything”
sacred bluff
I'm making a level 18 character for pf1e+spheres+akasha right now. Don't think I've made a character past level 12 before. Holy fuck is this a lot.
I'm gonna need so many goddamned Foundry macros to keep track of this
true delta
Such is life.
balmy orchid
I have added a third character concept to my potentialities
Catholic Adjacent Warpriest/Barbarian who is the world's nicest creature but only due to repressing enough rage to fuel a neutron star
surreal basin
rustic cape
You can have a little forbidden knowledge, as a treat
trail nova
I really want to see a worshiper of Yog-Sothoth interprete "help the desperate or forlorn to see potential for a better life in the future"
clever cobalt
Guess who's about to play a Mythic Thaumaturge who worshipsn Yog Sothoth
starting tonight
clever cobalt
I really want to see a worshiper of Yog-Sothoth interprete "help the desperate o...
also I like this take for my character
frank crystal
Is there anyway to do a like, ranged grapple in 2e?
I wanna do an enemy who’s a biker that drags the players around with a rope
plucky snow
Combat Grapnel weapon
frank crystal
Thanks
onyx chasm
What is a combat grapnel?
plucky snow
echo briar
The gill hook is such a good weapon. my barbarian has been using it with knockdown+ furious grab to grapple and knock people prone with only one roll.
balmy orchid
Okay I wanna try and build at least one of my character concepts
And I think I'm gonna go with the current thought process of Warpriest/Barbarian
The only problem being I can't be Lawful Good as a Barbarian because games used to suck back in the day
So I'm wondering if I just go Bloodrager instead?
turbid dagger
Two quarters martial, two quarters caster 🧠
turbid dagger
So I'm wondering if I just go Bloodrager instead?
But uhhhh, look at Primalist, its basically Bloodrager but you can take barbarian rage powers too
turbid dagger
I know 0 about this, I only know about Primalist because its in WOTR 😭
I am not actually a PF1e player because games used to suck back in the day
But i wish you good luck
limber comet
Oh god you're stuck in the alignment mines
balmy orchid
Okay so
Warpriest/Bloodrager (Id Rager)
This freaky little catholic boy has vibes so rancid he can kill you by thinking about it
balmy orchid
Okay the whole psychic synergy shit
Has weird implications
Especially because RAW I can get a feat that gives me 4 levels apparently?
surreal basin
???
balmy orchid
Oh wait nvm
Or
Maybe?
The ID Rager makes you count as both a spiritualist and the phantom
surreal basin
Uhhhh
I suppose it would give you the phantom stuff from four levels higher
Nothing else
balmy orchid
Wait hold up
This means the ID Rager can do touch spells up to 30 feet?
Oh wait no okay
That's 30 feet between the spiritualist and phantom
frank crystal
Would y’all run motorcycles in this game as mounts?
light gyro
Would y’all run motorcycles in this game as mounts?
there's rules for vehicles, though i dont know off the top of my head what would be closest to motorcycles
https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=3116&Redirected=1
there's the akiton sand racers which are more like those floaty purple highly-explosive things from halo
surreal basin
frank crystal
Oh thanks
frank crystal
Hey so I’ve got an idea for a character but for it I need to know
Are there any nations in Golarion with like, large scale mining operations?
I wanna make an stone druid miner
solar storm
Highhelm!
Giant dwarf city so already a lot of mining
But they’re also building a fuck-huge retractable adamantine wall which means extensive mining for it
frank crystal
Yah probably should have expected the dwarves lol
Are these mines particularly dangerous or nah?
The idea is the character nearly died from a lung disease before he became a druid
trail nova
Uhh, IIRC Taldor has some mining in its mountains
solar storm
Not unduly but golarion mining is always kinda dangerous
frank crystal
Like in the normal ways mining is dangerous or just like, a fantasy reason it’s dangerous?
balmy orchid
Balrogs everywhere
frank crystal
Uhh, IIRC Taldor has some mining in its mountains
What’s Taldor again?
frank crystal
Balrogs everywhere
I love mining too deep! I love mining to greedily
What the fuck, no one told me you could mind too deep and too greedily
trail nova
What’s Taldor again?
It's the old empire that controlled most of the inner sea region, now greatly reduced.
frank crystal
Ohhh
They’ve gotta have some dangerous mines
Well like, besides the monsters that live underground
trail nova
Hotbed of intrigue with some extreme class disparities, though it's doing very well rn, due to their first queen
(In 1e it was notably somewhat mysoginistic, particularly with regards to the inheritance of the throne.)
frank crystal
Huh
trail nova
One of my favorite nations on Golarion.
It’s not one of the more high fantasy nations, so it sometimes flies under the radar, and it’s got a lot of weight in terms of soft power - Common is Taldan in most of the region.
lost bluff
Thinking about making a Versatile Heritage and could use some input/advice on best way to do it. Short version is it's s tribe of people that are connected to an animal spirit that gives them the ability to shift into that animal (think birds and mammals, no reptiles or fish) and I'm thinking on making a "broad category" breakdown so players can pick how they want to build around the beast stuff helping them without them having access to stuff that wouldn't make sense for their animal narratively (bears do not fly, for instance). Broadly I think making 3 feats acquired at like level 5 where the player has to pick one: Mighty Beast, Swift Beast, Magical Beast. Since, AFAICT, big strong bois, little swift bois, and magical bois are about the three broadest ways you could categorize various builds in PF2e and then have later feats use those as pre-requisites while having those three be mutually exclusive so you can stack up on all of them. Is this good or terribly stupid?
echo briar
I feel like thats just beast kin with a few more feats
lost bluff
Wuzzat?
echo briar
lost bluff
Hm
Well the bad news is the party's already met the race so... It'd need tweaks regardless
surreal basin
I feel like thats just beast kin with a few more feats
Beastkin could stand some extra steps lol
lost bluff
Can't tell if sarcasm or not
surreal basin
It’s not no
At least personally I think beastkin is pretty bad
Mainly on account of getting an extremely small feat list - in hindsight probably because they were saving design space for awakened animal
lost bluff
Well in this case the Beast Tribe would have the ability to turn into the beast and into a werebeast (though with a potential to frenzy at first cause it's a dangerous line to ride) and over time pick up partial shifting stuff like carrying capacity, movement types, etc.
Also they can become the most friend shaped bears ever
Of all time
balmy orchid
Oswald the Wretched, also known to the lay person as 'The Minister of Crows, is at first an easy to dismiss figure. His small stature, meek demeanor, plain dress, and low rank combine to make him appear unassuming. However among the congregation of his faith, no one has begun to match his capacity for violence. More astute people notice that even the smallest triggers tighten his body into a predatory mien, and those of his congregation he has 'protected have been left traumatized from the brutality they witnessed. In truth, Oswald possesses a near limitless rage at every unholy thing and every injustice wrought upon the world, and when he explodes into action he has been known to decimate entire noble households, mercenary companies, and heretical strongholds nearly single handedly. Those among the faith consider him an ill omen at best and possessed by a demon at worst, but at this point the heads of the faith can only hope to arrest or kill him through the work of celestial magic, and to this day their God continues to grant Oswald their favor.
surreal basin
If a player wanted to play a Gun Ranger would yall let Crossbow Ace be used with a gun?
turbid dagger
Personally, yeah!
lost bluff
Random PF2e homebrew idea: Evolving Feats. Feats that change to a stronger form as you level (like specifically for archetype or versatile heritage or race stuff) that way having those doesn't come across as a waste if you leave them on the backburner for a bit.
frank crystal
So I’ve got an idea for a wizard NPC who takes a hostage via putting them in an orb that’s over something dangerous (like lava or something) where the orb remaining is dependent on his status as alive to sustain the spell
vital kiln
Incredible Initiative is good on a Magus, right?
thorny berry
good on most people, really
though yeah I'd say magus has a significantly above-average chance of just getting lucky and deleting somebody before they act.
fringe ember
Pathfinder is really fun.
I don't normally play 2e, though, since the main group I play with doesn't like it.
But I did have an idea a while back for a 2e Leshy.
I don't remember if it actually works according to the rules, but it was something like a Summoner-Druid, and it was a tiny lil' mushroom with a big mushroom Eidolon and then a plant-companion from Druid archetype stuff.
It was a very fun idea I sadly never got to test out in actual play.
vital kiln
Is the Butchering Axe worth taking Unconventional Weaponry for?
Playing an Inexorable Iron magus and I'm trying to decide what big fuckin weapon I want
vital kiln
Shove is one of the best weapon traits
And it would pretty effectively convey that fantasy of "I have a fucking Guts from Berserk-sized greatsword, fuck you"
Only issue being, Sweep isn't the greatest trait for Magus iirc
warped orbit
I'd personally recommend something with reach probably
vital kiln
Aye, I've been recommended the Fauchard
Doesn't really scratch that "gigantic fuckoff sword" itch though
...though
I could perhaps get that vibe with a maul
And just say that he doesn't need to sharpen his sword
Because it's just so fuckass huge he can crush people with its weight
vital kiln
Why's that? I keep hearing it's good but I don't get why.
rustic cape
Being able to hit things from a space further away is a big advantage
To say nothing of reactions
Like, at the simplest level
If you have reactive strike and a reach weapon
Opponents cannot get out of distance for the strike by taking a step
vital kiln
That is true
rustic cape
Or say, for your Unbroken Iron magus
Spellstrike has manipulate
Reach lets you potentially avoid reactive strikes
There are a lot of different use cases
trail nova
Spellstrike has manipulate
God, least favorite thing about 2e magus, and I have a lot of opinions.
If I rewrote Magus, spell strike would just be full on spell combat, with spell strike as an option for spell attacks. You don’t even get much of an action economy boost, just a tiny bit of flexibility!
thorny berry
though the value of reach arguably diminishes in later levels as everything is enormous anyway
and being 10 feet away no longer forces them to step before attacking you or w/e
warped orbit
It also quite importantly means you need to move less yourself
true delta
VTT question: I've got the PDFs with interactive maps for Frozen Flame. In the corners, there are little buttons for toggling map tags and the grid. Under which circumstances do those actually work? Are these maps meant to be used with Foundry's PDF-to-map module for Pathfinder? I remember you nerds talking about such a feature.
echo briar
In QftFF and all earlier books, those only work on the pdf itself
It was the last book they made before they partnered with foundry
true delta
Huh
Thanks!
Do you know which program I need to open the PDF in for this to work?
Because my regular PDF viewer won't do, apparently.
Oh, it works in Chromium.
Splendid.
Does anyone happen to know how to extract an image without the annotations for use in a VTT? Otherwise, I'll just take a screenshot with the tags off, suboptimal as it may be.
echo briar
so, there is a great module to upload everything for these older books. but it only works in older versions of foundry
true delta
Ah, alright. At least, that gets me off the hook WRT buying a Foundry license.
Thank you very much, Polish Vampire!
echo briar
please note, you can just download the older version of foundry, and then once everything is uploaded update to the latest version
true delta
Hmm, smort
solar storm
Does anyone happen to know how to extract an image without the annotations for u...
You can usually just copy the image out of the PDF
true delta
omfg
Thank you
I've already spent so much time trying to align these screenshots, somebody shoot me. Wow, that is extremely valuable information, thanks!!!
The pages showing several little battlegrounds don't let me remove the grid for some reason. But otherwise, this is great!
solar storm
Glad I could help
light gyro
anyone got any examples/sources on formian names? (the big ants)
ah, starfinder 1e race has some examples. neat!!!
frank crystal
One of my players has a really bad habit of not reading tags before they add something to their sheet on foundry
They’ve repeatedly added hexes they think seem strong to their spell list
They’re playing a Druid
sturdy lagoon
Should probably have them use an external character creator if they need to have curating the spell list automated for them.
frank crystal
I could recommend them path builder yah
solar storm
It's surprisingly easy to miss tags with Foundry's formatting
frank crystal
Yah
And I’m pretty sure they just kinda go to foundry’s “spell” section and choose from there
And Ngl foundry’s search function is kinda terrible
vast burrow
So, does Cutting Without Blade basically let you use Shift Immanence as a free action on top of everything else it does or is it exclusively reserved for "you can't steal my shit no more"
That is to say, can I use Cutting Without Blade to spam the Transcendence ability of a single Ikon every single turn
light gyro
owie
warped orbit
So, does Cutting Without Blade basically let you use Shift Immanence as a free a...
I personally read it as free action spark shifting
Because otherwise the feat seems pretty anemic
eager mountain
hey question for anyone whos played the starfinder playtest on foundry
how do you select your solarion weapon ?
onyx chasm
9 crits from the gm
Are you guys running 2e or 1e?
surreal basin
2e playtest
sinful gyro
how do you select your solarion weapon ?
I made it by hand
So if it's for example a club with reach, I gave that player a club, added on the reach trait, make the damage dice to the correct thing
onyx chasm
2e playtest
Cool! I haven’t got around to playing it, though it seems like alot fun from your example lol
echo briar
https://paizo.com/store/sale/blackFriday2024 Black Friday sale is up
Why is books 2&3 of gate walkers on sale, but not book 1?
vital kiln
Would a naginata be a better polearm option for a magus than a fauchard?
It's Uncommon, but Versatile (P) seems more useful than Sweep on a Magus, even if I'd be giving up Trip
...actually, a scythe might be better...
Isn't Uncommon, higher damage and fatal die, and it still has Trip
echo briar
Versatile p is almost never useful when the base weapon deals s.
vital kiln
Hm
What would best fit a zweihander...
There's the nodachi, which is obvious, but it's Advanced and I don't feel like taking Hungerseed just to be able to use one specific sword when I can use a polearm that does more shit
warped orbit
Nodachi is the only reach 2h sword
If you just want a solid reach weapon, guisarme or gill hook would be my suggestion
vital kiln
Aye, ended up going for a guisarme
Sweep isn't terrifically useful on a magus but I'm sure I can make some use of it somewhere
Familiars only get two abilities, right?
rustic cape
By default, yeah
vital kiln
Hrmm
So I guess I gots to pick between having a flying dragon or a familiar that can act on its own in combat...
...though, then again, combat familiars only seem good if you build them specifically to hit shit with spells
light gyro
the magus and bard are now 270 feet away from the battlemap. thank u motorcycle.
(they did not mean to do this)
rustic cape
There's good familiar options but that's gotta be your schtick
For everyone else there's Master Abilities
light gyro
ough the party has 9th level spells now
worthy stump
Godspeed
balmy orchid
Am I crazy or is having a 50% chance to always negate a crit a really good feat to have?
silver geyser
Eh, it's not bad. People will generally encourage "Just Kill Them" more
And its value is tied directly to how often you get crit
silver geyser
Big thing to remember is to give enemies a reason to try and hit you
silver geyser
Ah, ok!
Mind if I see the crit negate feat in question?
Actually, you know. I do have a feat suggestion if you haven't picked it up already.
balmy orchid
HmmmA
rustic cape
Am I crazy or is having a 50% chance to always negate a crit a really good feat ...
It has diminished value if you already have good AC because of confirmation rolls
3.P is like that
silver geyser
Also it is a job that can be done by money.
rustic cape
Like ... while you won't have infinite money
In general, don't spend feats on stuff you can buy
(In general)
surreal basin
OH IN 1e
Okay
Uhhh yeah if you have high ac and are using confirmation rolls it’s mostly just okay
I would ask though since ime crit confirmation rules are probably like
The most house ruled thing
In 3.5/PF1E
rustic cape
But tbh probably just buy it
silver geyser
Yeah, buying it works best.
rustic cape
It helps to think of your expected expenditures as basically just character points
balmy orchid
I'm going full plate Warpriest/Bloodrager
rustic cape
Unless your GM is specifically hostile to that sort of thing in which case why are they running PF1e
balmy orchid
Bloodrager is gonna be Steelblood/Id Rager
I have yet to decide on a warpriest archetype
If any
surreal basin
https://aonprd.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Phantom%20Fortification
Being able to ignore precision damage is more cool tbh
rustic cape
I have asked a PF1e expert friend
rustic cape
Being able to ignore precision damage is more cool tbh
But more relevant to monsters than it is to PCs ;_;
surreal basin
Suprising amount of monsters rely on sneak attack
silver geyser
Being able to ignore precision damage is more cool tbh
For the record, Fortification also lets you do that.
surreal basin
Oh okay
balmy orchid
Yeah it does both
surreal basin
Yeah you should just spend money on it then
The thing with phantom fortification is that
Normally phantoms can’t wear armor
Iirc
So if you want fortification you have to take that feat
rustic cape
Okay, she says it's definitely worth it
My friend, that is
I trust her charop advice
She had like ... tables
balmy orchid
I feel like plate has a lot of enchantments it could compete with
rustic cape
It shouldn't be your top priority, get your build functioning first but
Taking it is good, yeah
silver geyser
Fair enough!
silver geyser
Oh, plenty of time to get your build handled.
balmy orchid
I'm in a tentative position but the character is too cool for me to ignore making him
silver geyser
Yeah, go for it, take more fun enchantments. 😛
balmy orchid
I'm trying to find stuff that would fit like
Barbed Armor
The vibe of the character is very Blasphemous codes
silver geyser
Armor spikes also help cover your threatened area
But only with some Hand weirdness.
frank crystal
https://tenor.com/view/blasphemous-penitent-one-gif-gif-3879463551602558991
I gotta make a character based off the penitent
They look so cool
surreal basin
Oh man you can just shoulder check people
balmy orchid
I wonder if I can swing getting a vampiric weapon
frank crystal
What’s that?
balmy orchid
Magic weapon that let's you heal for half the damage you do
frank crystal
Oh cool
vital kiln
Getting a free archetype, what archetype do y'all recommend for a magus besides witch or wizard
frank crystal
Getting a free archetype, what archetype do y'all recommend for a magus besides ...
What weapon are you using?
vital kiln
I know Wizard and Witch are the obvious ones because more spells is more gooder for me but I'm wanting something that'll shake things up for me a bit
...though witch does have unique stuff going on
vital kiln
Could maybe try mauler then
Mauler would grant me access to a lot of really fun advanced weapons...
And I'd get a crit spec
echo briar
Optimization wise, psychic
vital kiln
Oh, yeah, cause imaginary weapon
echo briar
Even if you don’t want it, so many are just incredible for a magus
surreal basin
I just edited a buckler
rustic cape
Getting a free archetype, what archetype do y'all recommend for a magus besides ...
Psychic w/imaginary weapon
vital kiln
Does Imaginary Weapon get any damage modifiers?
Like, do you add strength or int or anything to the damage roll?
onyx chasm
Wouldnt it just be the str from using it as part of a melee weapon? So imaginary weapon damage+ weapon damage+ str ( if melee)
If used as part of spell strike
vital kiln
...probably should have thought of that, sorry
onyx chasm
No worries!! Magus is a bit weird with how spells interact it and spell strike
novel merlin
Like, do you add strength or int or anything to the damage roll?
Not unless the spell exicitly says it does
If you're spellstriking with it then you add weapon damage + str as you'd do with any strike
vital kiln
Oh hey Turtle
I forgot you were here
Anyway. I'll probably just do Psychic in that case, 2d8 is A Fucking Lot of damage and that's on top of the 2d6 from Gouging Claw
clever cobalt
The main weakness of Magus is, imo, the fact that their spellstrike is Manipulate
vital kiln
What does that do to em?
...oh, wait, Imaginary Weapon is a CANTRIP
I thought it was like
Some special psychic ability
That like let you form weapons from thin air
clever cobalt
What does that do to em?
Triggers Reactivr Strike
rustic cape
More at high levels
rustic cape
...oh, wait, Imaginary Weapon is a CANTRIP
The big thing is that it’s slightly better than Gouging Claw and that as a psychic, you can spend focus points on it to strengthen it a lot
Focused IW might be the strongest attack spell?
vital kiln
I see
silver geyser
How many monsters actually *have* Reactive Strike
Oh yeah, I should finish that.
Here's the last count.
true delta
How many monsters actually *have* Reactive Strike
You may be able to find the recurring posts in here where a user catalogued them all by level.
thorny berry
Hot take but imaginary weapon is up there with fake out as far as being build distortingly powerful in a way that maybe shouldn't exist (or at least just put it on magus instead of psychic, cmon)
I mean I suppose the fact that it competes with conflux recharges is pretty big
But really why is it on the d6 caster (and ditto with psychic's other point blank ally unfriendly stuff)
turbid dagger
Psychic not getting Reach Spell makes me sad 😔
Amped Imaginary Weapon with range 30 feet....
Oh wait, amps and metamagic are mutually exclusvie
Ackkk
sacred bluff
Reminder
sinful gyro
Wha
sacred bluff
Infamous instance of Paizo nerfing an equipment option because it was too good, but stated that the reason it was nerfed was because one of their designers had a hard time replicating it with a computer mouse in the office
sinful gyro
I mean it's a Facebook post, dude was probably trying to be funny after the decision had been made
sacred bluff
It was uh, not communicated well
rustic cape
This is a well-known and much-derided incident, but it's also from more than a decade ago and Bulmahn was recently kicked upstairs
sinful gyro
I think some of the blame falls on gamer over reaction
rustic cape
I think there's a lot of well-founded contempt for Old Paizo
But I also think Current Paizo doesn't bear much resemblance to Old Paizo
surreal basin
I get to yell at Bulmahn about this even if it was a joke
Mostly because the weapon cord being a swift action was perfectly fine
And it not being such makes dual wielding guns really fucking annoying
rustic cape
Whether Bulmahn was joking about it or not (and it seems pretty in-character for him imo), it's such a blatant example of the kind of justifications Paizo used to throw around for bad decisions in design
crude socket
silver geyser
There's also the fact that TWF pistol fighting was a problem for PFS play entirely because it would never really miss
limber comet
Whether Bulmahn was joking about it or not (and it seems pretty in-character for...
Hasn't Jason Bulmahn gotten better abt that stuff recently?
light gyro
Metamagic called Roach Spell. Not sure where I'm going with this
errant roost
- Turns a spell into a cockroach
- Turns a spell into a freshwater fish
- Turns a spell into a joint
echo briar
Makes the spell able to survive a nuclear bomb
echo briar
In PF1, French speakers are stronger than English speakers due to the French rulebooks using kg instead of lb, and the kg amounts being higher
errant roost
Changelog: nerfed France
paper inlet
I'm pretty sure that's the case for a lot of systems being translated into languages whose speakers don't use imperial system
frozen hatch
How would you go about making the golarion equivalent to wolfram and hart for part of a campaign?
silver geyser
Wolfgang and Hart?
errant roost
Wolfram and Hart is a lawyer firm from the TV show Angel. It's run by demons and a lot of the partners in the firm make deals with the devil for power (or just do lawyerly negotiations between supernatural people and don't need power themselves)
silver geyser
Oh, the Church of Asmodeus
light gyro
strength of thousands book 5 spoilers. ||when my players fight the king of biting ants on akiton should i play https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZawQzxQURU||
frank crystal
Hey so I’m wondering what’s the best way to translate my 5e changeling character into PF2E
Specifically the shape changing aspect of them, as it’s pretty important for them
And changelings obviously can’t do that in this game
balmy orchid
Does Pathfinder 1 really not have like
an Athletics skill?
Any "You use Strength"?
turbid dagger
Any "You use Strength"?
What Athletics covers in PF2e would be Climb and Swim iirc?
surreal basin
That would just be a strength check iirc
balmy orchid
weird
rapid wagon
its honestly weird that lifting isnt athletics?
buut i guess not having the check available would be difining thing
errant roost
huh. I always thought that PF1e started the trend of collapsing D&D3.5's skill list with Listen+Spot=Perception...but it looks like 4e did it first? And 4e went farther with Atheletics, Acrobatics.
so as far as I can tell: PF1e doesn't have Athletics because they thought that was part of 4e's bridge too far...?
rapid wagon
dnd and pf sometimes feel like they had a weird aggro for strength as a stat
balmy orchid
Doesn't PF1 predate 4th?
warped orbit
Pathfinder was in part a response to 4e, and it's much more restrictive content policies
Paizo published 3.5 content, so they just made their own game so they could continue doing that effectively
sacred bluff
huh. I always thought that PF1e started the trend of collapsing D&D3.5's skill l...
I mean, 3.5 did it to 3.0 first
rustic cape
huh. I always thought that PF1e started the trend of collapsing D&D3.5's skill l...
Frankly a wide variety of 3rd party d20 games were experimenting with that for a long time prior
heavy fulcrum
yeah, Paizo absolutely wasnt the first to try making "Our New Special Better d20 OGL Game", it was just the Winner That Wrote History, as it goes
eager mountain
😄 so most of my players did thier own art for thier starfinder characters
Gremm Dulkan, witchwaper borai orc played by Lendinval.
Copper, Goblin solarion, played by Nikki.
Lazuli , played by Harblin.
and Oshi, android Solarion played by Tanzie.
clever cobalt
Nice
fossil temple
Very nice
echo briar
Do you think there will be a fall errata this year?
It’s December, and we still don’t know how many spell slots an oracle is supposed to have
rustic cape
Has someone in Paizo indicated the amount that was printed is wrong?
echo briar
They printed 2 different amounts
3 in the description, and 4 in the chart
Which one was intended? No one knows
echo briar
It matters at every level
rustic cape
Does it? The text says to refer to the table at later levels.
I mean there's definitely an error but
Each day, you can cast up to two 1st-rank spells. You must know spells to cast them, and you learn them via the spell repertoire class feature. The number of spells you can cast each day is called your spell slots.
As you increase in level as an oracle, your number of spells per day increases, as does the highest rank of spells you can cast, as shown on the Oracle Spells per Day table.
Is fairly unambiguous about where you refer to as you level up
echo briar
The intention matters every level. Was the description a copy and past error from APG, or was the wrong table put in by mistake?
surreal basin
I am gonna lean towards the table being correct personally
But yeah it should get errata
true delta
I return from session five of Frozen Flame. Only two players showed up but they defeated the (weak-adjusted) Burning Mammoth scouts who were poisoning the river with rime sludge matter.
This short, two-hour session leaves me free to prep for next time: Did the big game hunter lady have something to do with the fact our catfolk PC was found in a basket as a baby? Time will tell.
The difficulty is that there has been no setup, so that "hey, this evil lady killed you family" would not be satisfying. I'm considering adding abducted family members who may be freed from the clutches of a circus or similar.
Inb4 a sibling became the evil circus boss from Extinction Curse.
Our catfolk ranger is some wort of snow tiger person.
echo briar
I was looking at roll for combats stuff, and why are pdfs $60? https://battlezoo.com/products/battlezoo-ancestries-year-of-legends-pdf
or $120 if its not on sale apparently
echo briar
no, thats $100
silver geyser
Hrm. No clue then.
echo briar
just PF2 is still $60
silver geyser
That's expensive af, even for 13 ancestries.
solar storm
There’s some extra digital stuff but I think a lot of it is just that a lot of rpg pdfs are kinda underpriced
echo briar
Paizos pdfs are $15
Their physical books are about $60
all their other PDFs are like $25, which while expensive, seems reasonable for a high staff product.
limber comet
That is prohibitively expensive for a pdf that isn't a core rulebook
surreal basin
So iirc this was essentially an entire year of Patreon releases compiled into a book
Now
Do I think it should be this expensive, no absolutely not
But that’s probably why
lost bluff
I'm working on a Beast Tribe Versatile Heritage for a game I'm running, so how does this look as the inate feat from level 1 character creation?
As a member of the Beast Tribe you are adorned with horns, not unlike a goat’s horns, but they travel from the base of your neck to the small of your back. They need to be groomed to avoid growing into your own flesh, thankfully they can be groomed like a goat’s horns as well. These horns are a sign of the beast spirit that resides within you. The form this spirit takes is dependent on your birthplace and should be one native to the area but should be limited to mammals, birds, and marsupials. Once you choose a species during character creation it cannot be changed and will determine which feats you can later choose. Changing into and out of your beast form takes 1 Action and can provoke Attack of Opportunity. Your beast form shouldn’t be any larger or smaller than your base size at most if your size does change when transforming, even if the creature would normally be larger or smaller than that. Your equipment disappears when you transform, merging with your body, and you cannot use equipment designed for humanoids while transformed unless it possesses magical properties that would allow you to (such as the Fang rune on weapons). Your beat form also sports matching horns to your humanoid form, denoting you as Beast Tribe at all times. Your beast form shares your normal physical stats (including AC and movement speed, which translates to forms of movement the beast has but you don’t such as flying or burrowing). Your beast form also allows you to communicate with animals, but the specific form will affect the nature of the interaction. Prey and predator species likely won’t cooperate with each other, either fleeing or attacking, and members of a pack species are more likely to talk to those of the same species for instance. Lastly you are able to take on feats with the Beast Tribe tag.
echo briar
So, mechanically, you can talk to animals, as the transformation has no real upside outside of that.
Also marsupials are mammals
I really feel like this needs a natural attack instead of animal taking
lost bluff
Oh right forgot about the natural attack
solar storm
Yeah a natural weapon or something similar seems like a good addition
lost bluff
What damage should that be, like a d6? d8?
solar storm
I think usually they’re d6 with traits like agile and such or d8 without
lost bluff
Yeah sounds about right
echo briar
Without additional feats, it’s d8 with no traits, d6 without traits like agile, and d4 with those traits
A level 1 feat can usually boost that though
lost bluff
Right, something I've been thinking of is making like 3 kinds of Beast Tribe. Mighty, Swift, and Magical. I could probably add thos einto thise and have the player pick one, and then that determines the kind of natural weapons they get in terms of damage and traits.
echo briar
Awakened animal doesn’t even have d8 options
echo briar
How do scammers just know when I order something from Paizo? every time I order something physical from Paizo UPS scammers start texting me. Paizo doesn't even have my phone number
surreal basin
Probably whoever does the actual shipping selling your info
echo briar
Whats the worst low level feat that needs you to dual wield? I am trying to test my hypothesis that dual wielding feats are purposefully better than average to make up for the fact that without feats dual wielding is worse than average.
The worst I could find is twin feint, which is still pretty good.
turbid dagger
dual reload 😛
rustic cape
I think two-action dual wield feats are strong on balance, but they also commit two actions to doing your main schtick in combat, and are mutually exclusive with other metastrikes
warped orbit
true
but also doing two Strikes basically MAPless is really good
warped orbit
dual reload 😛
that said, I'd actually give it to Paired Shots probably
attacking twice is good, but having to reload both guns afterwards makes it very cumbersome
echo briar
dual reload 😛
Thats no longer an action, so its fine
echo briar
that said, I'd actually give it to Paired Shots probably
attacking twice is good...
the thing is, thats also the same downside as shooting twice normally.
clever cobalt
Oh yeah, announcment tomorrow
echo briar
except if you shoot load shoot, next round you will need to load shoot load, while with paired shots you can shoot shoot load into load shoot shoot.
rustic cape
true
but also doing two Strikes basically MAPless is really good
It is! As is combining damage, in some cases
I'm just saying it is weighed against some things
surreal basin
Yeah I’d honestly say double slice is one of the best balanced feats out there in terms of like
Positives and negatives for using it
rustic cape
You can get a ton of damage out of it! Maybe the best single-target damage for a round
But it's gonna be your entire game plan a lot of the time
You'll make weapon choices based on it, you'll build other things with the knowledge of its presence
This is gonna be Your Thing
And sometimes you'll sudden charge instead and you're gonna Not Be Doing Your Thing
worthy stump
Oh yeah, announcment tomorrow
it's in 2 days, right? December 4th? unless they moved the date up while i wasn't looking
clever cobalt
maybe? I thought it was the third
surreal basin
You can get a ton of damage out of it! Maybe the best single-target damage for a...
Yeag! In addition you have the chance to fail one attack and basically have spent an extra action for no result, you can’t do freehand stuff, and it needs agile weapons
rustic cape
It doesn’t need agile weapons
It can be done quite potently without IMO
Most builds are probably better off including at least one agile weapon but
rustic cape
But yeah
Also some good double slice follow ups require … another action
Flensing slice is pretty decent but there’s your third action
surreal basin
My parties double slice fighter basically always follows up with two weapon flurry and a quickened strike
And they have agile grace
They’re basically a flurry ranger lol
worthy stump
maybe? I thought it was the third
i can't track down the actual announcement, but this is what i saw get passed around
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1161695831775248426/1308602761977528420/Screenshot_20241119_202003_Brave.jpg?ex=674f058b&is=674db40b&hm=08d49cd1ce3d104ac60c96af8ad58c956b0516f3aea3eca1b823b4e1370789c9&
surreal basin
For what it’s worth past double slice they only have like
A -5 to hit or something
It’s also Stolen Fate so there’s probably something silly happening I don’t know about it
Since you get a lot of weird powers in that campaign
Speaking of, only 2 more sessions til we round that out probably
Which, counting this+gatewalkers together, will be our… I believe 3.5th 1-20 campaign we’ve done
echo briar
i can't track down the actual announcement, but this is what i saw get passed ar...
wait a minute, the hint isn't "impossible" its "..."
surreal basin
And then after that is Prey for Death and then Kingmaker which, once we finish both, means I’ll have essentially completed 5 1-20 campaigns
In PF2e
Letting ruby Phoenix and prey for death both count as half
echo briar
Its a book of punctuation, so they can save space in latter books. Instead of adding punctuation, they can just say ( pg 38 of the punctation book)
surreal basin
I hope we get a giant/giant kin ancestry soon
worthy stump
genius...
clever cobalt
I hope we get a Dark Tapestey heritage/ancestry/etc
echo briar
you know whats impossible? Impossible lands 2
clever cobalt
That is impossible
surreal basin
I hope we get a Dark Tapestey heritage/ancestry/etc
Yeah like an alien or something? Some kinda eldritch thing
clever cobalt
Yeah that, or demi-shoggoth versatile heritage or whatever
I just like the Dark Tapeatry
maybe Level 17 Fleshwarp feats, even
surreal basin
That’d be nice
I think I’ve mentioned it but I made a level 17 flesh warp feat
That gave access to the eldritch battle form spell
It was called like, True Form
clever cobalt
Nice
echo briar
is there anything in starfinder that would fit the term "impossible"?
clever cobalt
Nothing immediately comes to mind
rustic cape
They’re basically a flurry ranger lol
There's a compelling argument to be made that flurry ranger is Fighter But Not As Good
rustic cape
Yeah, and there is a case to make either way
limber comet
That is a terrible idea lmao
clever cobalt
Actual image of them
trim grotto
how does exemplar work
clever cobalt
Basically they have imbued items they can swap powers to and from, and each item has a sorta... ultimate ability, where you use it for a special effect, but it forces you to swap the power to another item
Ideally you can do this each round, constantly swapping the power for special effect
frank crystal
Actual image of them
That but also a magical girl
clever cobalt
But you can also.keep it to a specific item for a while since they also have passive effects
Like a weapon
frank crystal
The weapon passives are near universally extra spirit damage as well
clever cobalt
Yeah
frank crystal
So it’s where most of the class’s consistent damage comes from
clever cobalt
Which there is an Exemplar Feat to change the spirit damage to something else, like electricity or slashing or vitality or so on
But yeah
They can do a lot of damage
It's a pretty fun class
rustic cape
That but also a magical girl
Magical girl bug???!!!
limber comet
Not really no
rustic cape
Disruptive Stance, really
frank crystal
Ah ok
surreal basin
Wizard this session did a funny and used their familiar who has thievery skills to disable a trap the party was in
Also man cursed items are so weird in foundry
limber comet
Familiar clutch
lost bluff
Still tooling at the Beast Tribe Versatile Heritage for PF2e, so now is the part where y'all tell me what I did wrong https://1drv.ms/w/c/fe78580c59657412/Edg3wrVt2flIrkpxOfbnoWgB2JR1AG2btXL_Ve7p1N2HFw?e=dbxOz1
solar storm
You might wanna cap beast form size at large
Though beast tribe minotaur elephant beast or whatever might be funny
lost bluff
I didn't realzie there were large races
Also something I was thinking about was removing the cap later, plus the size limiter doens't stop an Elephant from happenning anyway, they'd just be smaller than normal
frank crystal
They were added recently
echo briar
Still tooling at the Beast Tribe Versatile Heritage for PF2e, so now is the part...
1/round free action step is way too good for a level 1 feat
also I lied yesterday, apparently 1d8 natural attacks with no traits require a feat on top of the heritage.
the speaking with animals still feels out of place as a base ancestry feature
lost bluff
They turn into an animal, why wouldn't they understand other animals?
echo briar
Because animals don't understand other animals, and because its probably too much for a base ancestry
Wolves are probably worse at communicating with snakes than we are
Like, it works fine as a feat, but it feels out of place for the base heritage
echo briar
hell, wolves may be worse at communicating with other wolves than humans are. Humans are really good at communicating.
frank crystal
What’s the name of the creature families that’s like, non commoner skilled workers?
echo briar
tradespeople
frank crystal
thanks
solar storm
Because animals don't understand other animals, and because its probably too muc...
This may not be the case for Golarion tbf
clever cobalt
Do we even know the origin of Humans
limber comet
I don't know
clever cobalt
Funny how the actual evolved sapient species on Golarion are the bestial ones
like Kholo and Iruxi and Catfolk
frank crystal
I forget, what’s the rules for creatures fitting in spaces that are to small for them?
tough barn
I think the origin for humans on Golarion is genetic engineering from alghollthu to make a slave species
Of course after that humans too free-willed, Earthfall happens, etc
Disclaimer: this may not be true as of 2e remaster or other potential retcons
turbid dagger
I forget, what’s the rules for creatures fitting in spaces that are to small for...
For Large PCs, its typically 'you can fit through but its diff terrain'
frank crystal
Thanks
clever cobalt
Of course after that humans too free-willed, Earthfall happens, etc
While it makes sense, it feels weird given Earth also exists
Though on that note it may be hard to do in general for that reason
frank crystal
For a party of 5 level one PCs, y’all think 2 level 1 creatures riding 2 level 2 creatures would be a fine fight?
steel blade
that's extreme, as encounter xp budgets go
surreal basin
What are the actual creatures?
frank crystal
What are the actual creatures?
Cultist and weak hell hounds who have been increased to medium size
(They’re meant to represent hell powered motorcycles)
trail nova
… getting thrown off by a creature of a given level being “easy but nontrivial” for a full party, not “good challenge for a single guy” like 4e
surreal basin
(They’re meant to represent hell powered motorcycles)
So if the rider is killed do they become a non-threat?
surreal basin
That should be fine as long as you don’t give the hellhounds their own turn
They gotta be commanded like a mount
frank crystal
That’s the idea yah
limber comet
Something impossible tomorrow...
frank crystal
The joys of a tiny character
carmine egret
overwhelmed by emotion
crystal walrus
How much xp should a party get in a given session
Inb4 "i use milestone", humor me if you can
warped orbit
Depends a bit on group pacing
But I think the intended pacing is that you level up every 4-5 sessions roughly
crystal walrus
Any idea where that guideline comes from?
echo briar
Final guesses for what the “impossible” announcement is. I think they created a new color
Alternatively, critical roll is now a PF2 show now
PF3 would be really funny to announce this close to the remaster
sinful gyro
Did they ever call a PF2e videogame impossible?
I guess not cos Dragon Demands Kickstarter one
echo briar
Watch this be a board game with the word impossible in the name.
Actually wait, this would be a fun way to announce that they are finally updating their website
solar storm
Actually wait, this would be a fun way to announce that they are finally updatin...
They already announced that though
But yeah it might be a further announcement
echo briar
It could go live today, or they could announce the date
turbid dagger
Did they ever call a PF2e videogame impossible?
An owlbear pf2e game would fall under that according to prior chatter but I doubt its that
turbid dagger
It could go live today, or they could announce the date
This also seems unlikely but I'd appreciate being pleasantly surprised
I backed it and the kickstarter updates I've been getting are very much 'this is just the beginning of proper dev'
clever cobalt
Could be the new Battlecry! Book
errant roost
An owlbear pf2e game would fall under that according to prior chatter but I doub...
a non-Owlbear PF2e videogame seems inevitable at some point, but that wouldn't really feel "impossible"
clever cobalt
Because that's set to release in 2025 iirc
anyways the stream is iirc 4pm Paizo Time
which is to say, West Coast US
errant roost
lol. ironically I'll be in the middle of my group's Baldur's Gate game
turbid dagger
a non-Owlbear PF2e videogame seems inevitable at some point, but that wouldn't r...
I mean, one just got funded on kickstarter, so yeah
Dragon's Demand
clever cobalt
lol. ironically I'll be in the middle of my group's Baldur's Gate game
I'll be in a friend's PF2e game as well lol
echo briar
Look, a 40k crossover would be considered impossible
frank crystal
They should let me make a PF2E video game
frank crystal
Hmm, for a Minotaur paladin cause champion reach stance build
Y’all think a great axe or maul would be better?
rustic cape
I would say shove is marginally better than sweep, and bludgeoning is marginally better than slashing
But it's pretty marginal
warped orbit
slight edge to the Maul because of hammer crits and B damage IMO
turbid dagger
Pretty much the only thing shove is good for is breaking grapples you aren't in but hey, that's pretty good so
clever cobalt
Unless you have that one fea
frank crystal
Alright I’ll grab a maul then
woeful pecan
Struggling to come up with a character for this 1e game
More than usual anyway
We've got a rogue, slayer, and spiritualist
So probably a full caster of some sort? Arcanist maybe?
woeful pecan
Also a contender
The main problem is I don't have a central concept, flavor
I'm also trying to balance that flavor against a build that's mechanically engaging to play
surreal basin
Okay so
I’m trying to make
A weird fight
I want to make a stat block that represents a guy in a mech suit/power armor
Unsure if I should go for a construct or just build him out like a normal creature
Maybe I could use construct armor to represent the mech protecting him?
surreal basin
Any ideas are welcome :3
limber comet
Hm...
That's a toughie
Are the players trying to kill him or just disable the suit
surreal basin
Not sure - it’s kinda like a duel/rite of passage thing
silver geyser
OK, so SoT has something with this. It's a monster statblock with a weakness basically.
surreal basin
Ough?
silver geyser
surreal basin
Oh the leshy things?
Fair
Yeah that’s a way to go about it
A pc in this campaign is super knowledgeable about the civilization that built the mech so maybe I can let him point out weaknesses in it that the party can target to inflict clumsy and eventually damage the armor?
silver geyser
Yeeee
silver geyser
Please spoil for those who can't watch because game.