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[arctic dagger]

Gengar will run sludge wave or bomb

It's not super consistent which

I think bomb is usually favored

But it blocks shadow ball regardless

Which he will always run

Unless he's running the hex set

[languid lichen]

yeah but unless you're in tera you can just drop a wave, so it's kinda dicey

[arctic dagger]

Yeah, these are benefits in these matchups not pure favor. But denying tools lets you get a lot of switches or force people people to use one move over another which gives you strong benefits on the predictive switch out

[arctic dagger]

You know what they should have done with mega meganium?

Long long long neck

Just alolan exeggcutor it up

[round perch]

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-park-roy-chiken-chicken-rooster-gif-15719325597742543552

[runic umbra]

Anything that promotes cargo pants is a win for society in my book

[arctic dagger]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/s/k9DBZAeOkV

[manic kindle]

the mega starmie art trend has been so nice

[earnest nacelle]

I find Mega Starmie weirdly endearing.

[torpid pivot]

I didn't realize it was also Enormous

This would trouble me

[earnest nacelle]

Much about Mega Starmie is troubling.

[manic kindle]

Its fantastic in motion

[vague tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/286308925337239552/1436894498666844231/20251108204434-01K9K4J8GV10EN5XMBY3MHTQXT.jpg?ex=69270488&is=6925b308&hm=aacc80e30eed95626fec0f870658ae6a3581855df19d86a919cbdfd85bcd4d33&

[trail bridge]

menacing

[timber vale]

building for camomons in Pokemon Showdown rn

mildly upset that scizor doesn't have roost anymore

[languid lichen]

wait it fucking doesn't?

[timber vale]

yeah

[languid lichen]

nightmare...

my poor son

[timber vale]

another casualty of dexit I believe

at least we still have national dex

[arctic dagger]

Scizor still saw recent gen9 singles usage even without it iirc

[timber vale]

oh yeah I know

I just wish it still had roost

[languid lichen]

yeah it never really used roost in mainline singles

it had sets with it

[timber vale]

anyways I'm trying to build two teams right now

[languid lichen]

but at its best, scizor was always a choice banded punch machine

[timber vale]

one is an electric terrain team with xurkitree rising voltage for NatDex

and the other is a more general team

[languid lichen]

or three attacks sd

[timber vale]

I don't have much right now

I don't really know how to teambuild

I just wanted xurkitree rising voltage electric terrain

[manic kindle]

Good luck!

[fickle thicket]

Gameplay spoilers but if your guy reaches 0hp they become useless

[manic kindle]

the humble Revive:

[arctic dagger]

Aftermath

[mellow robin]

pokemon center

[timber vale]

Reciever ability

[snow cobalt]

https://bsky.app/profile/tontarotaro.bsky.social/post/3m6r2qmivlk2f

たろー (@tontarotaro.bsky.social)

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Bluesky · Nov 29, 2025, 9:14 AM

[arctic dagger]

From the comments section of the most recent Jimothy Cool video: " Icebergs, despite their often massive size, are terrible defensively due to the myriad weaknesses of the ice type. A popular misconception, perpetuated by such films as the 1997 blockbuster "Titanic", is that the ocean liner of the same name was sunk by an iceberg. In reality this could never occur because of the Titanic's major type advantage, being a steel-water type. "

[pliant violet]

is anyone else interested in pokemon draft leagues?

[pliant violet]

only asking because idk, I'm thinking of running one in a vgc format, Reg H (since that's the vgc format I like most)

[timber vale]

I'm shit at Pokémon, but... mmmaybe? What would it be played on?

[pliant violet]

showdown, if I do end up running it

[timber vale]

Yeah I think I could do it

[pliant violet]

wouldn't be till the new year anyway since I'd need to do a bunch of setup with a draftboard and shit

[timber vale]

Learn VGC for it or whatever

[timber vale]

👍

[pliant violet]

I'm not saying I am doing it to be clear

but if I decide to I will post in here about it

[arctic dagger]

Maybe interested

Would depend on how my life is going at the time tbh

[deft path]

if its reg H then yea

[exotic garden]

@pliant violet I will learn regulation H if it means getting to be in a pnet draft league, draft leagues are my shit

[pliant violet]

good to know folks

[deft path]

reg h is pretty straightforward, all gen ix regional dex mons with no legendaries or mythicals

[arctic dagger]

My quick thought is I'd want to do something like 3 dry runs of drafting

And then do the actual league where we do matches

Because I haven't done draft leagues before

[pliant violet]

reasonable, again this wouldn't be till the new year at the earlist anyway

[pliant violet]

Reg H is, imo, the most accessible format while also providing the most variety

[arctic dagger]

Paradox are still allowed in Reg H?

[deft path]

no

sorry also forgot that paradox are banned

[arctic dagger]

Oh ok cool

'cause that was my immediate worry is that gen9 minus mythical and legendary just turns into a paradox fest

XD

[pliant violet]

it's all the regular schmucks

[arctic dagger]

I love regular schmucks

Way more interesting IMO

Less just "Hey I uh, just have enough stats your strategy can't be functional" issues

[timber vale]

is it singles or doubles

since it's VGC reg H I assume doubles

so uh.

[arctic dagger]

Reg H would be doubles

[timber vale]

time to learn doubles!

[pliant violet]

yeah, and due to how drafting works you'll have to take some of the less straight up busted ones

[timber vale]

mhm

I'm currently making a list of possible alternatives for each major VGC mainstay

[arctic dagger]

I'd be up for a singles draft too potentially, but probably only at UU, maybe UUBL, or below

Taking a quick look at SV UUBL, I think probably UU

[timber vale]

hrmmm

Clefairy is probably gonna be expensive... so is indeede...

[arctic dagger]

I'm not even gonna bother thinking about pricing until we get close, tbh.

[timber vale]

I don't think anyone one support mon is worth too huge of an investment, so I should probably go for the cheaper options I can find

[pliant violet]

here's the video that inspired the thought in me https://youtu.be/zRckdx0fx8w?si=SmYtP0iV8hc0sPQo

and all pricing will be communicated well in advance of the draft and will take competitor input

[timber vale]

👍

[arctic dagger]

Yeah I'd assume so

[pliant violet]

has some of the drafting in it as an example

[timber vale]

I'm starting to realize why certain mons are so dominant as supports

like holy shit clefairy is genuinely kind of cracked? in terms of doubles

these are the only mons that have this combo of things

...Nat Dex Ubers is apparently suspect testing... sticky web?

[mellow robin]

I get it but thats also very funny

[timber vale]

it's fucking natdex, doesn't like, every other pokemon have defog in its learnset??? 😭

like I'm not exactly good at the game but I feel like suspect testing sticky web is just like.

why?

[mellow robin]

The conundrum wasn’t, and still isn’t, beating Sticky Web. Making a team that beats Sticky Web is easy, the challenge is doing so without compromising matchups into the rest of the metagame to an unreasonable degree. As the months rolled by surprisingly few options had surfaced and it became clear that Sticky Web was the primary centralizing force in the metagame by early 2025.

reading the thread rn

[pliant violet]

because if you're making so many pokemon waste a moveslot on defog

[mellow robin]

It isn’t as simple as removing Sticky Web guaranteeing a win as given the common Pokémon on Sticky Web structures are effective regardless except Chi-Yu. Notably, most of our top tier Pokémon have retained this status due to the essential offensive and defensive utility they provide despite being unable to function properly without Sticky Web being removed and their inability to contribute to contribute to this task. These roles still need to be filled, so builders are often forced to turn the same limited pool of options to support them which has severely diminished the diversity of nearly every archetype except for Sticky Web itself.

this paragraph is difficult for me to parse

[arctic dagger]

Basically the giant stat ball generic offensive threat of all the new gen9 things like paradox pokemon mean that even if you remove sticky thread

So many things are just going to 1-shot you anyway

And giving up the turn to get rid of sticky web gets you killed as surely as losing the speed

As far as overall momentum goes

[timber vale]

ohhhh yeah fair

[arctic dagger]

Is my impression

[timber vale]

this does make sense actually

covering for sticky web fucks you over everywhere else

not covering for sticky web fucks you over against sticky web

[arctic dagger]

And it HAS to be defog because of fucking Gholdengo

[timber vale]

doesn't gholdengo also block defog

because defog has the stat lowering bit

[manic kindle]

also sticky webs teams have flexibility in team choices, BUT because of Sticky Webs teams being specific big stat boys, if you run a not-Webs team youre really stuck to a limited pool of viable threats

[arctic dagger]

Ah yeah true

[timber vale]

it's part of why hazard stack is so powerful iirc

[manic kindle]

also as usual smeargle is the source of all crime

[umbral hound]

Gholdengo blocks Defog, yes.

And is, due to its typing, immune to both Rapid Spin and Mortal Spin. The only way to clear hazards against it is Tidy Up.

Or... Court Change might work?

[arctic dagger]

It works vs it

[languid lichen]

yeah, court change is a [field effect], as opposed to a [targeted effect] like defog (which lowers the targets' evasion, inconveniently)

gholdengo can't block trick room either

the first time defog dropping eva has truly been a re disadvantage in any non-niche way lol

[exotic garden]

as someone who has made a lot of webs teams, defog has always had a few precision counters; the last time I was playing competitive regularly, it was standard to pack either Defiant Bisharp or Contrary Serperior on any webs team in order to make it harder for your opponent to click defog casually (and those abilities still hurt defoggers when you're trying to build for hazard stack in other ways, they just happen to also mesh perfectly with webs to counter other specific situations)

[languid lichen]

serperior mostly takes advantage of webs, though, not fog

bisharp is a fair shout, though

that one's never been niche

[timber vale]

I wonder if Serperor would be notably better with Draco Meteor in its moveset

[languid lichen]

I'd say pretty easily, yeah

still mogged by steels, but it suddenly has a terror of a coverage move that covers fire, dragon, flying, and grass

[timber vale]

True, true

[timber vale]

There are plenty of viable counters to steel types anyways, so, probably wouldn't be hard to make it work

Hrmmmm

[languid lichen]

yeah you already paired it with like

magnezone a decent amount, historically

[timber vale]

I wish Mega Serperior would be dragon/grass so I could try this in STABmons or smth

[timber vale]

Makes sense

[timber vale]

Sorry what

Serperior

Mega serperior doesn't exist

Hrm

[languid lichen]

stabmons doesn't check for in battle form changes, anyway

[timber vale]

Hold on

Wait no nevermind

[pliant violet]

Yet

[languid lichen]

it checks based on out-of-battle forms

[timber vale]

I was about to ask if any Mega stones gave secondary dragon typing besides Charizard X and then I remembered mix and mega is an entire other format lmao

[languid lichen]

which is why mega sceptile doesn't get clangorous soul or anything lol

[timber vale]

My dreams of shift gear zacian crowned in Stabmons AG or whatever the fuck

[languid lichen]

that's just pure hackmons

"AG + whatever" mostly like

[timber vale]

True

[languid lichen]

doesn't exist outside of hackmons

for player interest reasons

otherwise you'd mostly see uhhh

6 zacian or mray or pdon or whatever

[timber vale]

Nah, I think balanced hackmons would allow it just fine

Cuz you could probably just check it with imposter chansey

But also imposter chansey is checked with normalize entrainment flutter mane

Unless you give your imposter chansey a plate

Because the flutter mane sets usually run judgement

And a plate

[pliant violet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Pw20VRKCRU2FAfw7cQb8vjS4LVFcqnTanEDxkFqUy9s/edit?gid=150168574#gid=150168574 for transparency sake I'll probably be using the draftboard used by wolfey in his draft league, visible here for all users so I've not got access to it months earlier than everyone

ignore the crossed out names, those are just pokemon that were taken in his league

[fickle thicket]

Woah TWO evolution episodes in a row

And I feel like a third may be coming soonish

Two or three weeks

[deft path]

that feeling when one of your key pokemon is a mere 12 points

[manic kindle]

Late but im willing to learn draft

[umbral hound]

I might be interested? I'm very out of practice, though.

[pliant violet]

gotcha

[pliant violet]

if anyone thinks the points are off lemme know

[pliant violet]

12 is still more than the average points given you've got 100 points to draft 10

[timber vale]

...hrm

I might be cooking up something good rn

[karmic imp]

I love avalugg
But it's so unfortunate

[timber vale]

trick room, surely

[pliant violet]

even then

[umbral hound]

Regrettably avalugg is an avalunk

[arctic dagger]

Defensive ice types, smh

[languid lichen]

avalugg is functional solely in inverse battles and specific om mashups

[timber vale]

I think you could genuinely make the best defensive mon ever

but if you gave it ice type it would immediately become low-tier

unless it had some insane ability that reversed type matchups or smth

[languid lichen]

that's avalugg and inverse battles

respectively

it's like 95/184 or something

with dogshit spdef, sure, but

[timber vale]

chansey exists

[languid lichen]

massive phys bulk, recovery, rapid spin, even hazards in rocks (and maybe spikes on hisuian?)

[timber vale]

you can be a good wall in one area and suck shit in another and do just fine

[karmic imp]

Avalugg needs an ability that mitigates it's typing

Like "so cold, it negates some of its weaknesses into normal effectiveness"

[pliant violet]

I am unfortunately thinking too much about draft

[umbral hound]

I am unfortunately not thinking enough about draft so it's fine

[worthy raft]

1 point, and a Spore user with Eviolite? what else could you want?

-disclaimer: sponsored post

[fickle thicket]

the ability to stay on the field long enough to use spore once maybe

90 def and spdef with eviolite won't save it

[worthy raft]

i don't think that's really relevant in this modern society

[signal glen]

https://youtu.be/V_UkrLROjkA?si=6XAiXCNeV8-Ts2Tq

[timber vale]

"Mega Lucario Z"

...couldn't they do the first form as X, and the new one as Y?

[soft isle]

apparently Z megas are supposed to be a bit different mechanically, draining the meter faster than regular megas do

[karmic imp]

Should the ice type be changed?

[arctic dagger]

Probably.

I think it should resist water at least

And I'd probably give it one more

New Mega Lucario looks like it's probably a special attacker?

Since its aura sphere is bigger?

[azure crane]

Ice should have resisted Dragon from the start.

[arctic dagger]

Oh, that's a good call

[azure crane]

But yeah, Ice and Water resisting each other is an interesting choice.

[arctic dagger]

Water is also one of the stronger types so

It can afford to be resisted by something

My initial things I'd want to do for sure is make bug resist fairy, make ice resist water and dragon, and make steel not resist 1-2 things.

But I haven't thought that hard about it because like, yeah it's not gonna happen

[manic kindle]

Wow what a compelling argument! I must get a Shroomish now!

[karmic imp]

This way, defensive ice types can
Actually work

[arctic dagger]

I doubt it

But it'll help a bit

You'd have to start actually carving off weaknesses

Not just add a couple, even decent, resists

[karmic imp]

Hm

[arctic dagger]

It's ok IMO for ice to be an offensive type

[karmic imp]

There could be an ability to mitigate weaknesses for ice types

[arctic dagger]

If I was gonna carve one of their weaknesses off it'd be fighting

Punching ice is not really a thing

And fighting is the one that ends up as a 4x weakness the most I think

Which is really the killer

[karmic imp]

That leaves rock, fire and steel as weaknesses
Maybe additionally an ability that mitigates super effective attacks. Or maybe just bulk and defenses are enough to help defensive ice types survive

[arctic dagger]

Shrug I mean, so my thing is that Mamoswine exists

And does well

[karmic imp]

A move that creates ice walls that eat some of the damage

[karmic imp]

Ah that's good

[arctic dagger]

Like they haven't been OU since gen5

But they were UU for a long time with sporadic usage

They have an OU build in SV still, even if it's relatively rare

It just has enough bulk AND enough offense to be threatening

One of the big issues with most ice types that are trying to be defensive is they're monoice or ice/rock

Ice/rock is just not really a salvagable type TBH

[karmic imp]

Can monoice work?

[arctic dagger]

Tentatively ok? Regice has seen a little usage. Beartic sees usage as a bulky sweeper in rain teams every once in a while.

With water and dragon resist it'd probably be "fine"

For mixed types, we've seen Ice/Water, Ice/Ground, Ice/Dragon, Ice/psychic work as dual type defensives

But like, there just aren't that many ice types.

Ice has fewerpokemon than fairy last I checked

Yeah, 58 ice types, the lowest total

It's not just that ice type pokemon aren't good defensively, it's that the ice types that they've designed are... Bad

And there aren't enough of them to have ones that aren't bad

[timber vale]

iirc Beartic was actually doing pretty solid but now there's been a little bit more of a shift and now there's more issues for ice again to a degree

like, again, still great as the fast glass cannon

Chien Pao has a 4x weakness to fighting, and still is too good for OU

[languid lichen]

fast, offensive ice types are always very good

slow, defensive ice types are always very bad

much of this is due to uh

the aforementioned "defensive ice types are always designed badly" bit

but i would never characterize ice/ground or ice/psychic as good defensively

calyrex ice is strong because it has an enormous statline, a 130 bp 100 acc stab move, and moxie

not because it's ice/psychic

mamoswine is also good because ice/ground is a titan offensively, not because its one resistance and one immunity make it functional defensively

[timber vale]

the ice type is honestly holding it back

[languid lichen]

nah

[timber vale]

at least in singles

in doubles I think trick room basically makes it just as strong as spectrier, aiui?

but in singles, there's a reason why Shadow Rider is AG and Ice Rider is Ubers

[languid lichen]

well yes, that reason is caly shadow has 150 speed

[timber vale]

okay I worded this badly i'm

trying to figure out how to put this better

[languid lichen]

if caly ice literally had the statline of caly shadow, but flipped to phys

(150 def/130 spdef/50 speed shuffled around to 150 speed and 100/80 defenses)

it would also probably be ag

[timber vale]

yeah true

[languid lichen]

it's not the ice type fundamentally, it's the fact that GF takes the Ice Tax

it's slow where the other one is fast, but if they were both slow or both fast they'd be more even in power

[timber vale]

yeah

[languid lichen]

because the 165 main stat + 130 bp 100 acc stab move + moxie is most of why they're so scary

[timber vale]

anyways why the fuck are so many horse pokemon weirdly slow

[languid lichen]

ikr lol

[timber vale]

mudsdale, spectrier and glastrier

[languid lichen]

wot

spectrier has 130 base speed

that's more than rapidash (105) or zebstrika (116)

[timber vale]

wait no mb

[languid lichen]

although power creep is part of that

[timber vale]

I meant to say just glastier lmao

brain fucky wucky

[languid lichen]

oh, i was thinking of keldeo because i was misremembering its speed

but no that's 108

so yeah it's just mudsdale (donkey) and glastrier (outlier) that're slow

which is reasonable

[timber vale]

okay yeah that's fair

the weird ice horse

[umbral hound]

Glastrier is clearly a draft horse I guess

[karmic imp]

Avalugg has rather low special defense

[karmic imp]

Ice Tax?

[languid lichen]

yes

as mentioned previously/the starter of the conversation, 90% of ice types are slow

this is the ice tax: they must all be slow and defensive until the levy is raised

then the bare few survivors can be broken because they're fast and offensive

[pliant violet]

Weavile is not broken

[languid lichen]

weavile lost much with the annihilation of pursuit

it was really fucking good until gen 8

and then it was still really fucking good because of its chassis

and now it's deec

[near flower]

water 🤝 electric
man i wish there were more physical moves

i waaaaaaant water type head smash

or water close combat ill take literally anything above >=100 power

[arctic dagger]

The physical special split? Believe it or not, a lie.

They tell you it's real but we all know that fighting is still physical.

[timber vale]

isn't there wave crash

[timber vale]

psychic is special

[near flower]

feraligatr doesnt learn it so it doesnt count

[timber vale]

fair enough

[near flower]

looking at it like half the pokemon that learn it have better SpA??? why give it to those bums and not my beautiful son...

why does chopped ass empoleon get it.... grrrr (sorry empoleon fans)

[timber vale]

I still feel bummed out about a lot of the moveset reductions

like yeah, not every mon should get toxic and scald and whatever but also like

roost scizor...

[arctic dagger]

It's overall good for the game

Everyone going to have specific points they don't like

[near flower]

id hate it less if they showed my boy more love

(wave crash on the left liquidation on the right) like idk maybe the desc. is really different in japanese and it distinguishes them more but these are the same idea cmoooon

[timber vale]

yeah, I know, but also I miss some bits and pieces the mons I liked had

also I miss return and frustration

[snow cobalt]

oh they got rid of those in ZA?

[azure crane]

Isn't Liquidation 110 power on Feraligatr?

[azure crane]

They got rid of them in Swosh.

They should bring Return back, but only Lopunny gets it.

[timber vale]

They've been gone for a while. Since Gen 8

Alongside Hidden Power and all the other dexited moves

[pliant violet]

why 110?

you're just saying because of stab?

[arctic dagger]

I'd guess sheer force

[pliant violet]

ah

[arctic dagger]

ZA ofc doesn't have abilities though

[azure crane]

Ahh, right.

[arctic dagger]

I think I've posted this before but

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/84675/like-no-one-ever-was-pokemon-si/

I really like this fanfic

Summary is pretty accurate

MC reincarnates when Nemona is still a little kid, goes from there

[round perch]

https://youtu.be/aTQn3sRhdF4?si=vIu-OcScFq_pPB_p

[pliant violet]

I love sneasler

[mellow robin]

this one's my favorite
https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/to-live-is-to-dream-sinnoh-pokemon-trainer-quest-now-having-escaped-the-eterna-forest.979188/
it's technically a forum quest but the QM has a firm hand on the narrative wheel, if perhaps not so much on the story pacing

[pliant violet]

wasn't someone here writing a good pokemon fanfic?

[soft isle]

Fab was for a while

[pliant violet]

right yes I thought so

[pliant violet]

not just because of dire claw, though also direclaw

[near flower]

im greedy and want more

[fickle thicket]

sneasler rant my belovedt

[timber vale]

new Showdown OM is a fever dream

VoltTurn Mayhem

every move that has an effect on the opponent is a pivot

statuses count

[pliant violet]

I have recently been enlightened to the glory of grafaiai

If you like smeargle, look into it

[trail bridge]

but what if I hate smeargle

🤔

strawman aside, what does the funny grafiti monkey do?

[pliant violet]

What do you want it to do

Lotta support stuff v fast

Also poison touch, also prankster, also unburden

[azure crane]

Smeargle and Grafaiai are nothing alike except for both painting things.

[pliant violet]

Untrue

They’re both support moveset Pokémon

[azure crane]

Grafaiai has an actual attack stat, and doesn't learn every move ever.

[pliant violet]

It’s good I love it

It also has good abilities

[fickle thicket]

anime spoilers, ||SPACE?! HE'S IN SPACE??????||

[timber vale]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5YPsr0-rW2s

[snow cobalt]

https://bsky.app/profile/wascie.bsky.social/post/3m7hadr23ns25

Ms. Washywishes (@wascie.bsky.social)

i think if phione wore a shirt. itd look a little something like this.

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Bluesky · Dec 8, 2025, 4:53 AM

[fickle thicket]

Mega leaks get yer mega leaks

[maiden imp]

||mega leeks? I don't see sirfetch'd here.||

[fickle thicket]

Will be included in the DLC's DLC

[trail bridge]

||He. He. He. He. He. He. He. He.||

||HEATRAN?||

[fickle thicket]

||has no style, he has no grace,||

[trail bridge]

||Th-th-this mon! Can learn Scary Face! Huh!||

[pliant violet]

||What is on the right of heatran||

[exotic garden]

||I... think that's darkrai?||

[pliant violet]

I’m glad that I’m not the only one that’s unreadable to

[signal glen]

||Yeah it's Mega Darkrai.||

[soft isle]

||Mega Absol can be your angle or yuor devil...||

[wispy yarrow]

i'm love them

[fickle thicket]

||It's Darkrai. I've seen a model viewer of it float about, but I think its animations are broken. From what I can tell our boy might not have hands.||

[fickle thicket]

||Also MAAAAN why can tatsugiri get a forme-sensitive mega but pyroar and meowstic can't, this is glorpshit||

[karmic imp]

I wish ampharos was fluffy

[snow cobalt]

https://bsky.app/profile/7h4ze.bsky.social/post/3m7pglvnxqk2b

HAZE (@7h4ze.bsky.social)

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Bluesky · Dec 11, 2025, 11:06 AM

@glacial ore @rocky zodiac umbreons ping

[soft isle]

Oooh, very pretty!

BWEE!!

[timber vale]

The artstyle reminds me of the girls' love manhua that I read

[azure crane]

I am entirely unsurprised that someone on Pilot NET reads girls' love comics.

[timber vale]

I have finished around 70 titles so far

Or I've finished 46 and have like 25 that I've read all of but which still have more being published and scanlated so it's more that I've finished what I can so far and am now waiting

[karmic imp]

We have two sheep lines, right?

[pliant violet]

at least, yeah

ampharos and dubwool lines

[azure crane]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/c1po9k/i_drew_mareep_and_wooloo/

[snow cobalt]

https://bsky.app/profile/angolemango.bsky.social/post/3m7t7kr4ha22l

Ango (@angolemango.bsky.social)

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Bluesky · Dec 12, 2025, 11:11 PM

@rocky zodiac @glacial ore

[soft isle]

[trail bridge]

One day he's gonna grow up and be in OU

[timber vale]

Volcarona is banned from OU rn

tera made it too hard to counterplay effectively

I think this is also part of why gouging fire and roaring moon got banned

[round perch]

https://youtu.be/BLPy_to0fcc?si=JxJbsc1sC_xsknDQ

[arctic dagger]

Kind of funny to do an England Fakemon when Galar exists

I'd be interested in why they don't just make more Pokemon to put in Galar

[umbral hound]

It's not England. It's New England, which is part of the USA. But I misread it too.

[arctic dagger]

ohhhh it's a "NEW ENGLAND" fakemon, not a New (England) fakemon lmaoooo

Oh no it's a defensive ice type

The Ice/Fighting Farfetched is neat tho'

[worldly plume]

New england makes me think of lovecraft

[arctic dagger]

A couple cthulu mythos lines could be cool

Like a cute -> cool octopus line that turns cthuloid

Could also do a Little Guy -> Scary Guy fish kid into scary fish man into Dagon monster

Probably as a pseudo

[karmic imp]

Squid kid

[round perch]

I kinda want another New York region that's a lot more urban.

[near flower]

unova legends but it's set in 'further in the future black timeline' so opelucid/black city have expanded greatly

[wispy yarrow]

I want, more than anything

Another game in the Orre region

Pokemon Legends Orre would go HARD

[languid lichen]

orre is so fucking good

i would love to see orre followup

or even a game about like

the period of overhunting and ecological devastation that led to its current state

[worldly plume]

Please
The ecological commentary would be peam

[trail bridge]

Thingies from the pokemon center in Osaka

[azure crane]

This is why Blueberry Academy is the only part of Unova you see in the SV DLC. They didn't want to canonize one of Black or White over the other.

Though given both SV and BW had past/future contrasts in their theming, they should have leaned into it.

[karmic imp]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/1pm8ivu/i_felt_the_need_to_share_this_here_pokemon/

[round perch]

Huh.

[sullen mesa]

its the "basement"

pony up that cash

[blissful needle]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DSPutySiPgA

for non spanish "Pokemon with nonsense stats"

||Literally a walking fortress of another dimension
A FUCKING WORM
The creator of the sea and floods
THE SAME FUCKING WOR-||

[smoky quail]

There are so many like this

[snow cobalt]

https://bsky.app/profile/briwolfer.bsky.social/post/3m7li5iqtvc2l

the bri wolferrrrr (@briwolfer.bsky.social)

glaceon girl doodle

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Bluesky · Dec 9, 2025, 9:23 PM

[arctic dagger]

https://youtu.be/L8SdKERrL9w

IT'S HERE

What a beauty

[pliant violet]

sickening

[fickle thicket]

That moment when a youtuber's shitpost romhackch has a better mega Falinks design that the official one

[soft isle]

Oh? 👀

[karmic imp]

What are the best looking electric types?

[sullen mesa]

helioptile (very biased)

tbh most electric types are pretty uniquely designed

and unfortunately populated by pikaclones

[karmic imp]

Too yellow, at times

[sullen mesa]

yeag lol

[smoky quail]

Mareep :)

Magnemite :)

[sullen mesa]

i like completely glossed over the mareep line when looking up the electric types

dragon sheep good

[karmic imp]

Why does mega ampharos become dragon anyway?

[manic kindle]

Jp name means "elec dragon"

[manic kindle]

I like Joltik :)

[smoky quail]

Lóng reference

iirc its name was already a pun so the mega is making good on that

[karmic imp]

Is that why is loses the fluff?

[smoky quail]

It's not really clear why Ampharos loses the fluff when it evolves but yeah it might be to evoke the draconic element of the pun

[pliant violet]

it loses the fluff because the line is a sheep being shorn

[karmic imp]

How interesting
Imagine getting a cute sheep and it turns out to be part dragon

[manic kindle]

This isnt Hard Stated Fact but stuff in z-a lightly implies mega evolution taps into similar stuff as the past/future mons from scarvi

Since mega evo is bringing out your latent cool dna powers

[arctic dagger]

I like Electabuzz, although not its evolution or baby form much

Luxray is ofc a classic

And only has yellow highlights

[manic kindle]

Elekid is a silly little guy

[arctic dagger]

Xurkitree is probably my favorite UB, and Zeroaora I'm still annoyed about not being more common in the games

Zeraora is probably a top design in pokemon overall for me

Bellibolt is really good

I'm much more of a fan of Mega Amph than I am normal Amph

[pliant violet]

I like pawmot

[arctic dagger]

Magnezone is on my team in pretty much every game it exists in, although I understand a lot of people like its preevos better

The Rotoms in whole are really awesome

[pliant violet]

toxtricity is one of my favourite pokemon of all time

[arctic dagger]

True, Toxtricity is peak

Morpeko is one of the only actually visually interesting pika clones

ALong with Pawmot

Joltik/Galvantula are cool AF, so is Vikavolt

[pliant violet]

alolan raichu

raging bolt has won me over

[fickle thicket]

it's in the video. Apparently they designed it before ZA released so they accidentally landed on the same concept (they form one big guy), but until the official joke, the too many types 2 one looks actually good because it allows the individual guys to reshape to fit their position

[manic kindle]

Love za Da Boys mega

Theyre so silly

[pliant violet]

if I can be candid I am sad they got a mega

because it means no evo or anything like that which could've helped them a lot more

I love falinks, I was a falinks here for some time

[manic kindle]

Hes just a lil guy(+)

[timber vale]

I love Falinks

I wish they weren't competitively trash

[azure crane]

Tadbulb and Bellibolt are cool, and I'm glad they have more Pokémon that live in the water but aren't water type.

[fickle thicket]

I despise silly megas. Victreebell, Falinks, Starmie, Crabominable, even Slowbro is toeing the line. Awful stuff. Megas are sold to you as a Pokémon being in an extra powerful state and looking a damn fool is no part of that.

[manic kindle]

ok

I think they look good and i enjoy the whimsy of Pokemon

It brings me joy to watch my Slowbro spin like a top and get a silly ice beam KO on a big dragon with sword arms

toku suit actor Starmie kicking the shit out of smaller pokemon is #peak

[timber vale]

I like silly megas but also find that most of the silly megas do not feel particularly like megas to me

Slowbro and Ampharos are nice

But stuff like Starmie, Excadrill, Falinks, etc. make me think more of Gigantamax forms to an extent

Generally I feel as though megas are one of the few places to maximize for coolness with a Pokémon, with some exceptions, and generally for fun or silly forms I prefer Gigantamax

I do like Mega Falinks though, they're one of the silly megas I do like

Especially the one in the middle that's straining itself hard

[timber vale]

Imo, Xurkitree, Galvantula, and Alolan Raichu

[timber vale]

The whimsy is literally everywhere else and thus generally I think megas should be cool

Unless they fullsend it

Which is why I like Mega Falinks and Chimecho but not Starmie and Excadrill

[smoky quail]

megas don't really feel like a cohesive phenomenon between designs and generations, and gmax forms just exacerbated the problem

[timber vale]

Tbh I would disagree

Megas and Gmax forms feel different and I can't quite explain how but it's like

[smoky quail]

there are some gmax forms that 100% feel like "thing big and we designed it to convey that" but a ton of them genuinely just could have been reduced in size and called megas and nobody would have batted an eye

Mega Butterfree sticks out just from memory

er

Gmax

Gmax Butterfree

I fucking did it to myself

and there's the underlying mega motif of "this is not good for the pokemon" which is a strong theme to lean into, but they've more or less abandoned it

[timber vale]

Gmax Butterfree and Gmax Lapras are the two that I think i would agree with for that off the top of my head

[timber vale]

Iirc this was only gen 7 and not at all referenced in the original gen 6 stuff? I might be wrong though

[smoky quail]

Gmax Lapras a little bit less so, it does have some design elements that kind of leverage scale and perspective

[timber vale]

True

[smoky quail]

iirc it was always the case with Mega Lucario, and its anime debut emphasized it being a Genuine Problem for everyone involved

[timber vale]

Makes sense

Maybe kind of dumb but Mega Scizor's dex entry makes me wish it had some fire moves or something

[arctic dagger]

That was my recollection too

[smoky quail]

I understand that they'd want to walk it back to sanitize the concept for broader appeal, and so they don't have to come up with a method of torture for every single mega

[timber vale]

Would heat wave be good on Mega Scizor??? Not in a million fucking years

But it would be cool

[smoky quail]

but it's compelling, especially when coupled with the theme of trust and bonding

Mega Scizor :)

[timber vale]

"This Pokémon trusts and loves you enough to undergo genuine torture for your sake" or "You are putting your companion for life through living hell"?

[smoky quail]

Moreso the first one, but it's kind of lost when you realize that mega evolution availability and usability is completely binary instead of something that needs to be practiced and gradually improved

[timber vale]

Yeah...

[smoky quail]

it's less that they trust you enough to agree to it and more that you made them hold the item and you pressed the button and there were no negative repercussions

I was actually genuinely surprised when I first learned that being mega evolved doesn't drain their HP

it just felt like an obvious balancing decision

[timber vale]

Tbh I would disagree

[smoky quail]

but that's just me

[timber vale]

The chip damage would probably do a lot to make tankier megas kind of suck shit

And probably break a few important thresholds for other megas

[smoky quail]

You'd need to make it a static percentage but I don't think it would be inherently burdensome

[arctic dagger]

I mean, what's the point of mega slowbro if it chips itself

Many megas are already only "Get super stats to go on offense harder"

I don't really want to encourage that

My main thing though is I'll note that like, as someone who was in the Army... A lot of actually fighting fucking hurts a lot.

You dive into cover and slam your arms and shit into things

And that's fighting with like, guns, actually using your body would hurt a lot more.

[timber vale]

We do not need to make Mega Audino even less viable

[arctic dagger]

I kinda just assumed it wasn't MORE pain than getting hit with Close Combat by Blaziken

And so the adrenalin is just gonna kinda make it not an issue

[timber vale]

Also I assumed it would be static percentage

[smoky quail]

see the problem with that is that if this were what they went with from the start then Mega Audino (hopefully) would have been implemented differently

[timber vale]

I think basically it'd just not be very equal

Mega Beedrill suffers genuinely nothing from this

[arctic dagger]

Shrug I think it would force design space in a very particular direction.

[timber vale]

Vs. Like

[arctic dagger]

And I don't think it's good to limit the design space that way

[timber vale]

Mega Aggron is now genuinely not worth using ever

[arctic dagger]

And also pain isn't damage.

[timber vale]

Because that thing does not have recovery iirc

And uh. Tanks without recovery are historically kind of ass

Basically I get what you mean but it also would not actually be particularly balanced or equal for the various megas even if fairly thematic

[manic kindle]

mega beedrill my beloved

i love taking my boy for walks in z-a ranked

[languid lichen]

i also wouldn't even call it thematic, since "the megas are in pain" is something that's indicated in exactly one gen that isn't the gen they started in

and contradicts the emotional statement of what megas are in the gen they are introduced in

[timber vale]

I mentioned that before yeah

[languid lichen]

ah, my bad

[timber vale]

Nw

[azure crane]

The entry for Mega Pinsir says that it's so excited to fly everywhere.

Which is

[glossy umbra]

I'm a little sad that terastallisation will be gone in the not too distant future probably, but on the other hand a new Pokémon generation means I'll have some time without Urshafu and Calyrex so it's not all bad.

[arctic dagger]

I'm ok with it

Tera is cool, but it causes SO many balance issues too

Whole buncha pokemon sent to Ubers because Tera just made them too consistent

[glossy umbra]

Definitely, definitely. I do like it being able to make a few strategies more viable and disrupt stuff like fake out or prankster, but on the other hand "Calyrex Ice > Tera fire" is something that's a tad bit too common.

Mind you I am more of a double battles person ever since Colosseum.

But can imagine it's a menace in singles too.

[arctic dagger]

Doubles is better these days tbh, but I get annoyed at their refusal to implement any balancing requirements

[glossy umbra]

Mm, it is annoying

Not a super big fan of stuff like Urshafu or Goldengo who are just designed to ignore major facets of the game, though there are other egregious mons beyond those two.

They just happen to wear their issues on their sleeves, and are thus easier to point towards.

Now the truly evil thing to do would be to give neutralising gas to a bulky Pokémon with decent typing.

[arctic dagger]

I think Wheezing is a really good thing for most meta personally

It's definitely evil but

It's a safety valve in some ways

For me the bigger issue is the giant piles of paradox pokemon that make other pokemon just not worth taking because they just outstat them to the point that things like movepools and abilities aren't as relevant. >.>

[glossy umbra]

Oh yeah I'm just an evil person who wants Bulkier Weezing.

[glossy umbra]

And yeaaaah, the minmaxing of stats has gotten rather extreme.

[arctic dagger]

Not like the paradox ability isn't good, it's both good and boring which is worse lmao

[glossy umbra]

50% more stat™ isn't too interesting no, especially since it oft eats their item slot.

It is kinda funny though that they had a huge issue with Zacian dominating the previous game's meta, and then they gave the paradox Pokémons essentially its nerfed ability alongside minmaxed stats.

[arctic dagger]

I mean I think they mostly just don't give a shit about comp XD

[glossy umbra]

I do like stuff like Hospitality, Opportunist, and Toxic debris though.

[glossy umbra]

It's weird because they do seem to care a little bit more about it nowadays, but also make some very pushed Pokémon to make folk use the new stuff.

But safety goggles for example is very competitive minded (though on the flipside, it does exist in large part because spore is a thing).

On a semi-related note, man do I hope they make another spin-off someday with double battles. I'm lucky to have copies of Colosseum and XD still.

[timber vale]

Volcarona in ubers is crazy to me tbh

[arctic dagger]

Volcarona is my favorite pokemon so

That was who I was thinking of tbh

XD

[glossy umbra]

As she deserves

Volcarona is so good as a design and all

[timber vale]

She's shit tier in ubers

The gap between banned from OU and viable in ubers is genuinely so massive

[glossy umbra]

My queen 😔

[timber vale]

Volcarona, most of the paradox mons, Hearthflame Ogerpon, etc.

[arctic dagger]

Yeah, the OUBL tier would be enormous lmao

[glossy umbra]

Nah but you're right about the gap between tiers being huge.

[timber vale]

And it goes the other way too

Zoroark and Reshiram are unviable in ubers but godddd they would be fucking miserable to fight in OU

[glossy umbra]

Didn't know Smogon was Trotskyists, what with how they tend towards splintering over time.

[timber vale]

And like, I don't think they're even like. Good in UUBers

The tier that tries to make shit ubers have a place

[glossy umbra]

Draft Pokémon is something I've wanted to try out more.

[timber vale]

Iirc there was RUbers for a bit? Or something? And volcarona still wasn't viable there if my memory isn't making up an entire niche metafame

[arctic dagger]

So the thing that is annoying about Smogon as a system is that it's basically about OU, and everything else only kinda ends up where it does accidentally.

[timber vale]

Yeah

[glossy umbra]

Yuuup

Which is a shame since OU to me at least so often was the less interesting tier.

But again, doubles person

[arctic dagger]

Nah you're right and you should say it

[timber vale]

I like OU well enough, but as the gens go on it feels more and more centralized

[arctic dagger]

I've always been a UU fan personally

[timber vale]

I don't really like doubles much either though, besides like

Whichever regulation it was that banned all legendaries and paradox mons

[arctic dagger]

H I think

[timber vale]

Overall I've just been trying to play national dex recently

[glossy umbra]

It reminds me of when the national Dex becomes legal in competitive, and you know this means the usual suspects with prankster and all are going to dominate again.

[timber vale]

I just kind of suck at the game so I don't actually know how to build

[glossy umbra]

Should be H yeah.

Not without its own issues, but it's something.

[timber vale]

I've been trying to make ane electric terrain rising voltage xurkitree team but I just don't know how to go about it

[glossy umbra]

Can't go wrong with some speed control, though it's varied a bit how central it is to the meta.

But there's a reason why we won't see a prankster trick room Pokémon anytime soon.

(unless I'm forgetting someone)

[timber vale]

Iirc Nat Dex Ubers was considering banning sticky web due to some major shit that happened there

In that it basically meant teams either were weak to sticky web or weak to literally everything else due a variety of factors

I forget what exactly but I dunno if the suspect test actually passed

Anyways my plan is Z-hypnosis Xurkitree with rising voltage and energy ball to clean up after, so speed control would probably be elsewhere/unneeded?

[glossy umbra]

Singles I'm guessing? Entry hazards have dominated there for a long time, so I can see an entry hazard that messes with speed being considered for a ban.

[timber vale]

Yes

Iirc rn in OU, offensive hazard stack is one of the stronger comps due to, uh

Goldengho existing

[glossy umbra]

I remember way back when stealth rocks became a thing and made it impossible to have a quad weakness to rock.

Ah goldengho

[timber vale]

Wasn't volcarona still OU during that time

[timber vale]

Like, the two moves that can actually clear hazards against gold are Court Change and Tidy Up

And like

[glossy umbra]

It's been a long time, but yes I believe so and entry hazards were one of their biggest weaknesses.

[timber vale]

If you have gold you're taking a cinderace counter

And I don't think I've seen anyone seriously running maushold in forever

[arctic dagger]

The deadline to vote on the suspect test was Friday

It was 32/26, with a 55% vote to ban

[timber vale]

Oh, neat

[arctic dagger]

They require 66% to actually ban

So it wasn't

[timber vale]

I have been mostly playing OMs recently

Since I kind of suck at the game and also like the fun gimmicks

VoltTurn Mayhem is a shitpost of an OM but also strangely fun despite being very centralized and focused

And Convergence is neat even if I suck shit at it

Balanced Hackmons i am not nearly smart enough for, I always forget about one strat I need to counter and get shitstomped after forgetting to account for it

Because the matchmaking gods realize my folly and immediately only put me up against people running that strategy

[arctic dagger]

I mean, I think balanced hackmons probably has more strategies you need to counter than that you can counter

Despite the "balanced", it is still hackmons

[soft isle]

(It’s because trick room has -7 priority, the +1 from prankster does not help much)

Orange ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) But there's a reason why we won't see a prankster trick room Pokémon anytime soon.

[glossy umbra]

Ah yeah, forgot about that part

[timber vale]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/s/TRBOY5Das0

[sullen mesa]

this is the pokemon channel, but if you're itching for another game with double battles exclusively there is Temtem (now that its no longer being worked on lol)

[manic kindle]

i also think Cassette Beasts does a nice job of the 2v2 and 2v1 format

Not quite Battle but also 2v2 w swaps is Beastieball, which has a very strong identity on its own while also nailing the things i DO like from pokeclones

[pliant violet]

v keen for pokemon champions next year

[smoky quail]

champions is gonna be a blast

[sullen mesa]

yess cassette beasts are so good

[blissful needle]

the list of pokemon fangames that I ended up downloading to check later

[arctic dagger]

Haven't tried any of those but emerald rogue

Let me know what you like

[blissful needle]

salt and shadow is the first one I tried

and I hated it

it tries to combine Pokemon combat with the openness and mechanics of dark souls

but the bonfire mechanic has a limit of uses so even that is a resource

and you can't level up your mons unless you use rare candy equivalent items

its less a game you play and more 20 knowledge checks and hope to find the zweihander

when in dark souls that was a nice extra and you were not forced to do a SL1 run

[sullen mesa]

so it is dark souls /j

emerald rogue is super fun, i also tried pokemon unknown and i like that as my go-to randomized firered

[blissful needle]

not really

It says something that after the prison, dark souls is in a way more hopeful than this game

or dark souls at least has that sense of "Come on, try again"

[manic kindle]

https://youtu.be/4cDGLeu8CNs

love these vids so much

[snow cobalt]

https://bsky.app/profile/junebuns.bsky.social/post/3mad7bqtpwk2i

June Ი︵𐑼 (@junebuns.bsky.social)

Wanted to dress Sylveon up!

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Bluesky · Dec 19, 2025, 7:48 AM

[wispy yarrow]

adorable

[karmic imp]

https://justanotherpersonsuniverse.tumblr.com/post/800307719106084864/my-friend-sent-me-the-photo-in-the-second-image
Headcanon

Sorry I’m Just Another Person Here

My friend sent me the photo in the second image and I had to clamber drawing something funny surrounding it and Im still giggling

-# #my art #pokemon #pokemon scarlet and violet #pokemon scarvi #pokemon za #pokemon xy #pokemon legends za #jacinthe #jacinthe pokemon #lebanne #lebanne pokemon #playroughshipping #nemona pokemon #penny pokemon

Tumblr · Nov 15, 2025, 6:55 PM

[karmic imp]

Oh wow they bugged up the dialogue lines, besides softening the romantic undertones between lebanne and jacinthe
https://www.tumblr.com/societyofbattleconnoisseurs/801231856947347456/lebanne-on-jacinthes-love-for-her

Jacinthe Zone: On!

Lebanne on Jacinthe’s love for her

(A canon dialogue that has gone missing)

I feel there’s been a lot of pushback from people due to the dialogue Lebanne has when you battle her the second time in the Infinite Z-A Royale Reward Match. People have taken it as proof Lebanne “hates” Jacinthe and is “trapped/in need of escaping her.”

Ironically this may be due in part to a game error where the third line of dialogue is wrong and the correct line is missing.

Let me explain. When you battle any trainer during the Reward Match- you are given two lines of new dialogue (one at battle start, one at their last Pokemon is released) and then their “battle lost” dialogue is the same defeat line as other times you’ve battled them.

According to the script in the game files, this is incorrect and the battle lost dialogue should be new as well.

For example here is Jacinthe’s first reward battle in game:

On battle start: The Infinite Z-A Royale is a fine event, but it goes without saying that nothing pleases the public more t...

Tumblr · Nov 25, 2025, 11:44 PM

[karmic imp]

Been a while

What's the level in laverre city?

[fickle thicket]

~40

[karmic imp]

Fuck

[fickle thicket]

Why?

[karmic imp]

Wanted to bring a more effective team
Seems like it'll take a bit of grinding

[fickle thicket]

It's gen 6, all you need is one (1) Pokémon who knows an iron type move

[karmic imp]

Still

Wanna have a selection of pokemon on-level

I have a poison and a steel pokemon I am aiming for, at least

[manic kindle]

have fun!

sometimes its a nice joy to take some time levelin up the lil guys

[karmic imp]

Honedge and roselia
I like both of em

[manic kindle]

the roselia line is among my favorites

[glossy umbra]

Yeah, hope it'll be supported for a long time.

[fickle thicket]

if you're planning on keeping that honedge around, don't forget that ||stone evolutions stop learning moves on levelup||

[karmic imp]

Thanks

That sounds annoying

Wait, what about aegislash's unique move, that guard?

[umbral hound]

||That's learned from evolution I think.||

[fickle thicket]

learns it on evolution

[karmic imp]

Huh odd
I remember not having the guard on my aegislash in a previous save?

[manic kindle]

it should prompt you to learn it right after evolution

[karmic imp]

Okay

[manic kindle]

if something goes wrong, move remember guy is in dendemille!

and if it matters, Doublade stops learning new moves at level 51 in XY

[pliant violet]

I hope they get a lot more experimental with formats, given it's not tied to a specific game

[trail bridge]

I can't

I can

t

breathe

😭

[sullen mesa]

oh my god

[round perch]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N0PXwkf1_G0?feature=share

[pliant violet]

love scrolling through my notes and seeing random pokemon idea

Specifically the notes I’d made for lines for an Australia region

Scrubbaby (Grass) -> Kangatherer (Grass/Steel) -> Diggeroo (Grass/Steel)
Signature Ability: Earthmover (steel worker but for ground type)
Signature Move: Jumping Jacks (multi hit steel type move with fixed amount of hits, moderate power, and low chance to lower def)

Chickind (Fire) -> Smoldromai (Fire/Electric) -> Emmolate (Fire/Electric)
Signature Ability: Updraft ( steelworker but for flying type)
Signature Move: Dry Lightning (Good power electric type move with a high chance to burn)

Pudgle (Water) -> Platypeer (Water/Ghost) -> Ornithorror (Water/Ghost)
Signature Ability: Virulent (Steelworker but poison)
Signature Move: Unnatural Perception (moderate power ghost type sure hit move that sets an effect that means all the users moves will hit for some amount of turns barring effects like protect)

Big spider pseudo legend Poison/Fairy

Normal Fighting line that starts as a tasmanian devil then becomes a tasmanian tiger then becomes a thycaleo, the marsupial lion

Dark type region evo to komala, drop bear and nightmare themes

[umbral hound]

oh I should try to find some of my old pokemon ideas. I distinctly remember a poison/electric rattlesnake whose tail rattle was generator coils. I think its signature ability was Shed Sparks and it set up electric terrain upon taking a hit?

[pliant violet]

Oh that’s fun

[sullen mesa]

more snake mons!!!

[umbral hound]

Also, the Psychic/Electric Ureka. When deep in thought, its brain generates immense voltages; to avoid electrocuting itself, it channels that electricity through its horn, causing the crystal at the tip to glow. ||In other words, when it has a sudden idea, a lightbulb goes on over its head.||

I was actually unsure if the rattlesnake should be dual typed or mono electric, and never came up with a name.

also... I have an idea for a signature ability that implies a certain kind of pokemon but I never figured out the details. The ability is Pure Shell, and it causes the pokemon to take half damage from pokemon who are afflicted with status conditions. For the user... something that purifies water or air? Or maybe a monarch butterfly that eats and concentrates toxins?

[pliant violet]

My three starters there, if not obvious, are a kangaroo digger/miner, a stormcloud emu that runs around accidentally setting things around it on fire, and a platypus line that starts off looking like a duck then becomes warped into a platypus

Natural disaster type theme, mines, bushfires, floods

Grass type was meant to be a bulky physical attacker, fire type a fast special attacker, and water type a tricky special attacker

[umbral hound]

oh fun

[pliant violet]

yeah I think I brainstormed them here like last year when I was playing around with the idea

[timber vale]

I have the vague beginnings of a Pokémon region in my head

Ice steel ground starter trio triangle sounds neat...

Maybe dark psychic fighting

[pliant violet]

sounds fun

[timber vale]

I was thinking medieval fantasy RPG theming with the 3 starters being something related in-world, maybe like, 3 main archetypes of like... rogue, warrior, and mage

And then I remembered the gen 6 starters

[umbral hound]

yeah I was going to say

[pliant violet]

you could still do a play off of that

[timber vale]

True, it could be in a new and different way

Could go with some samurai vibes or maybe knight vibes for the fighter, or even something more out there

For rogue, it could be more dexterity focused in general, maybe with some different types I could go for monk or archer vibes

And for the mage there's a lot I could do

[umbral hound]

...you are kind of describing the alolan starters.

Only kind of... but kind of.

[pliant violet]

rogue you could go thief not ninja, or assassin

warrior could go berserker or weapon master route instead of like paladin

mage could be a more chaotic sorcerer or a warlock than a witch

or even like a priest

[timber vale]

I might actually just eat a brick

[timber vale]

All very true

[timber vale]

Thief - Dark/Ghost
Knight - Fighting/Steel
Cleric - Psychic/Fairy

Something kind of funny is that each of their typings makes them fairly neutral against each other in the end

They all hit each other for about neutral besides steel being better against fairy ig

[pliant violet]

I'm a big believer that type triangles don't actually have to be perfectly even

[timber vale]

I mean from the start it was lopsided with dark being immune to psychic rather than resistant

[pliant violet]

ye

what do you want to do with them, aside from that

[timber vale]

Like in terms of combat or with regards to the region

[pliant violet]

I meant like the pokemon, probably need more elements than just the classes

[timber vale]

Ohhhh yeah fair

Uhhhhhmmmmm

Good question tbh

[languid lichen]

also the kalosian starters

which are thief/wizard/tank

[timber vale]

That was what I mentioned first as conflicting with what I had

[languid lichen]

or more accurately, witch/ninja/knight

[timber vale]

Or at least already having done it

[languid lichen]

ah, hadn't scrolled down

[timber vale]

My current plan is maybe Thief/Knight/Cleric

But I am not yet sure

[timber vale]

I hadn't actually thought this through entirely

I was thinking of playing some JRPGs or something first and kinda almost bringing Pokémon back to those sorts of roots in part?

[pliant violet]

not a bad idea

could even go for a more traditional monsterish design, but you gotta know what kinda monster you wanna do

a region where the starters are traditional rpg classes x traditional dnd monsters could be cool

[timber vale]

I kinda want to do that yeah

Like uhhh

[pliant violet]

a goblin rogue

[timber vale]

Thief + Mimic

[pliant violet]

also works

[timber vale]

Or something like that yeah

Dragon knight

[pliant violet]

mimic might work better for the knight?

[timber vale]

Fey cleric?

[timber vale]

Also true, but my reasoning here was moreso like....

An almost adversarial relationship while also being sort of connected?

Same for dragon and knight

Fey and Cleric i pulled because I couldn't think of anything else fitting the type so that one I'm not sure on

[pliant violet]

oh interesting

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Bluesky · Dec 26, 2025, 10:36 AM

[timber vale]

Ooooo wait hold on

[pliant violet]

oh I didn't notice the lack of traditional starter types

[timber vale]

Since the dragon knight and mimic thief both lack the type that might be associated with their monster, I could have more flexibility with the cleric

And also figure out an explanation that helps them feel more like that thing while also not needing the type

Ooooorrrrr I could make triple types /j

[pliant violet]

demon cleric

little imp thing

[timber vale]

True!

[pliant violet]

alternately a vampire cleric

[timber vale]

Or at least the first stage

[timber vale]

Okay hold on I might like that one more

Fuck i wish I could draw maybe it's time to lock in and learn

[pliant violet]

I cannot help there, I'm an ideas guy which really means mostly useless

I would recommend also a signature move or ability or both

[timber vale]

I'm going both probably

I must remember that I am making starters and not sub-legendaries and therefore must not make them too strong....

[pliant violet]

that's what I did, though I went very boring with abilities

[timber vale]

Sharpness alone is a very powerful ability... stacking it with another effect would be unwise....

[pliant violet]

since I felt all three starters had a connection to a third type, so their hidden abilities are all a version of ironworker for that type

[timber vale]

I must not make gen 10 powercreep...

[pliant violet]

starters are allowed to be stronger than average

sorry, steelworker

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Steelworker_(Ability)

[timber vale]

True, Cinderace is in OU with Kingambit and such

[pliant violet]

I was even thinking doubles, where incineroar is possibly the best pokemon of all time

[timber vale]

Also true

[pliant violet]

and rillaboom also v solid

and mega charizards, etc etc

[timber vale]

Hrmmmm

Sweeping Cut...

Sharpness + all moves affected by sharpness become spread moves

And then to show that I am truly demented I give it a fighting type version of bitter blade and another signature move that's a steel type slicing move

And then I give it dragon dance because it's dragon and fuck balance entirely

[pliant violet]

you definitely can do something like that

might be a bit much but really it's all up to you, it's just theorycrafting stuff

[mellow robin]

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[sullen mesa]

good post

[round perch]

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Bluesky · Dec 25, 2025, 7:53 PM

[sullen mesa]

expert: yes

[obtuse ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fran-フラン-nod-nodded-gif-4555652442381937962

[umbral hound]

I wish mimikyu hoodies were a thing that existed because I want one. ...maybe I'll start thinking about making a mimikyu costume for next Halloween?

[snow cobalt]

pog

[round perch]

I wish it's face was the squiggly drawn on one.

[arctic dagger]

That would be great tbh

[umbral hound]

...maybe I should try to make a team around mimikyu. I don't know how good it is in doubles, but at least in singles it used to be able to do swords dance shadow sneak fun stuff? And in doubles I think it's more of a support mon. But if I wanted a support mon that tanked a single move, I would run focus sash Sableye.

(which I'm convinced is excellent at something, and I just need to figure out what.)

I mean. It's basically guaranteed to get at least one status move off, and probably two.

[timber vale]

in singles it's strong-ish but also walled by steel types and not quite of a high enough caliber to compete in OU

[umbral hound]

Mimikyu? Yeah, that makes sense. It's kind of niche.

...wait, hang on. Since when does Mimikyu get Drain Punch?

[timber vale]

I wish I could agree but iirc it's pretty much just completely outcompeted by Grimmsnarl for utility

[timber vale]

prrrrobably something new, though iirc it usually doesn't bother running it

no stab, its attack isn't stellar, and it's a weak move at base

only strong, bulkier fighting types like iron hands really run it

[umbral hound]

The theory behind Sableye is that:

• Because it's Ghost-type, it's immune to Fake Out and doesn't need a Covert Cloak.
• Because it's Dark-type, it's immune to Prankster Taunt and doesn't need a mental herb.
• It has a very diverse movepool, including Prankster Quash.

Unfortunately, it does need a focus sash, because its competitors can't hold all the items they want but also aren't made of tissue paper and forced to go after the other prankster mons.

also, in one of the Pokemon franchise's greatest jokes, Sableye has an exceptional attacking movepool both physically and specially. Also, 75 attack and 65 special attack.

Everything about Sableye is great except for its stats. But its stats are so bad.

[pliant violet]

that's why it has a mega

[umbral hound]

mega sableye can only do so much to fix its stats. And even with good defenses it still can't make great use of its amazing attacking movepool and is better off with its amazing supportive movepool to just be a wall.

[arctic dagger]

There's a ton of early Pokemon with weirdly diverse movesets imo

Charizard, Gengar, etc

Alakazam

Sableye is at the end of that at gen3, but it holds true through gen3 imo so

There was a long time any Pokemon with hands got all the punch moves kind of deal

[pliant violet]

ye

also the longer a pokemon is around the more likely they get random shit tacked on each generation

[sudden spade]

Abra here with tis Mega Punch/Mega Kick/Body Slam movelist for when you want to do Physical Abra run.

[timber vale]

also megas are too valuable to be a support mon usually

you wanna reserve that for something with power and presence

[umbral hound]

Sableye gets Bulk Up, Calm Mind, and Nasty Plot. Just because.

[arctic dagger]

Eh, magic bounce in particular is nuts enough

[timber vale]

true, true

but also hatterene. exists.

[arctic dagger]

Yeah but never at the same time mega sableye did

I remember the main competition at the time being... Xatu?

[pliant violet]

dw champions drops soon

[fickle thicket]

The good news for you is that I haven't gone a single convention without seeing multiple different mimikyu hoodies

Didn't look handmade either

They're out there

[pliant violet]

the one I wanna build a team around is grafaiai

[arctic dagger]

It's cool

I love to see evos like it TBH

[pliant violet]

I like that even if you don't go for a prankster set it being so fast means it can still run some of those supporting moves

[arctic dagger]

Oh wait NVM

[pliant violet]

https://tenor.com/view/grafaiai-pokemon-paint-gif-7000773916422569479

[arctic dagger]

I was thinking of the girafarig evo

[pliant violet]

you were thinking of the armour tail beast

abilities that block priority are spooky

Farigiraf

[timber vale]

farigiraf?

[arctic dagger]

Yeah

[pliant violet]

it's very solid in trick room, so doubles

it's also nice in that it gets it's best ability as not a hidden

[restive gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/vaporeon-pokemon-tontaro-vaporeon-pat-vaporeon-pet-gif-17946058326125674458

[umbral hound]

terrible stupid idea: a mystery dungeon rescue team composed of voltorb, spheal, and... probably solosis? Maybe bramblin? They want to be a good rescue team but keep failing to do missions because they're on top of things and they just roll down.

[languid lichen]

solosis floats and is psychic, i'd def go with bramblin

tumbleweed energy fits better

[umbral hound]

Yeah probably Bramblin. It's not as perfectly an Orb, but it fits the joke better.

...the other silly joke team idea is Team Forest, consisting of Dolliv, Snover, and Sudowoodo.

[languid lichen]

you gotta throw in a trevenant

[umbral hound]

Depends on if I want this to be a team of little newbies or big trees. But Trevenant is a good shout.

[umbral hound]

I'm trying to remember which other new pokemon would be really cool in mystery dungeon, and mostly I just like the idea of a Toedscool delivering the mail.

[pliant violet]

Gimmeghoul banker that evolves into a gholdengo based on a side quest to collect money

I like the non-traditional starters those games let you be

[fickle thicket]

gimmeghoul banker who tells you "sorry man I was robbed I lost everything" exactly when he's evolved into a gholdengho

[pliant violet]

oh that's good

[arctic dagger]

I just saw this and

Perfect

Looking for the source atm, the place I saw it didn't have one

The only place I can find it that might be original is Twitter but it's not clear that where it was posted there was even the actual author

[round perch]

https://youtu.be/z8-7T1hBnL8?si=jJM_6VGljPHNK8UP

It has returned.

[arctic dagger]

Cute AF

Big fan

[umbral hound]

those all look deeply cursed

[umbral hound]

So I was trying to figure out if Tulip (the Psychic-type S/V gym leader) is herself psychic, and I randomly found this profoundly worrying quote from her:

""Sadness" is not in my vocabulary, after all. The closest emotion I allow is the beauty of surprise."

I'm also half-convinced she was conceptualized as a Fairy gym leader and changed to psychic later.

[umbral hound]

there should be an Ice-type dog pokemon. The basic stage is like a pomeranian whose fluffy fur is snow, and then it evolves into a malamute or huskie with shards of ice in its fur.

[pliant violet]

That’d fit her beauty aesthetic

[umbral hound]

also the little flapping butterfly wings on her shoulder since butterfly wings are the usual visual symbol of the fairy type.

...has every generation introduced a new dog pokemon? I'm not sure Sinnoh did, but otherwise, I think so?

[round perch]

https://youtu.be/I6NDxU6SFks?si=Cv_CgC_wjnyyx2qW

[pliant violet]

Yeah it’s one of those general “more likely than not” generational trends

[umbral hound]

...you could have a steel-type dog mon named Wroughtweiler but that might also be a yugioh card

important question: are we counting Zygarde 50% as a dog?

er, 10% I mean

[timber vale]

Iirc it's performance in this video was quite underwhelming

[pliant violet]

Zygarde is 100% dog

[languid lichen]

shinx is a dog

so very ears

[umbral hound]

I legitimately can't think of a gen 4 dog but I think there's one for every other generation.

[vague tide]

clearly it's lucario

[sullen mesa]

yeah it kinda is lucario

i count heatran as dog-enough

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Bluesky · Sep 20, 2025, 3:42 PM

[pliant violet]

It’s beezlebufo

[sullen mesa]

what is this lol

[snow cobalt]

They dated in college

[sullen mesa]

they were roommates...

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[fickle thicket]

I'm pretty sure not a single kind of pokémon that appears in every gen appears in every gen outside from starters
or at least there's always some muddy edge cases

[pliant violet]

pseudos

[timber vale]

Route 1 bird?

Pikaclones is cloze but gen 2 only has Pichu

[languid lichen]

there's always a route 1 bird and a route 1 mammal

(which is usually a rodent)

[manic kindle]

technically not part of the trend in the truest sense but gen2 does have Marill, which is the Mouse of the gen

[timber vale]

People do call it Pikablu

[manic kindle]

very funny how old leak names spread like that

[azure crane]

Yeah, I would say Marill counts.

[wild prairie]

Has there ever not been a route 1 bug?

[manic kindle]

lets see
gen 1: caterpie weedle
gen 2: spinarak ledyba
gen 3: wurmple, nincada
gen 4: kricketot, burmy
gen 5: sewaddle and venipede...? they come after the first few gyms
gen 6: scatterbug
gen 7: grubbin
gen 8: blipbug
gen 9: Tarountula, nymble

gen5 is the most suspect on "route 1 bug" because the bugs are not on Route 1 BUT in bw2 they are

you can get level 2 sewaddle outside of virbank

[karmic imp]

I love vivillion line

[umbral hound]

Nymble isn't quite route 1 but Tarountula definitely is.

[pliant violet]

route 1 is a bit of a misnomer, it's just gotta be around gym 1 imo

I like that as the series has gone on they've made the early bugs a lot more long term functional

[manic kindle]

i couldnt place quite when, maybe gen5ish, but there is a shift from an expectation on the player to replace team members regularly because of native power creep -> more allowance on using anything you get your mitts on

[vague tide]

i'm not sure if "everyone uses the same team in sinnoh" is a symptom or a cause of that, but it feels related, considering how early shinx and starly are

[languid lichen]

they just cooked too hard with those two

[manic kindle]

yeah gen4's gym 1/2 pokemon selection is Really Good

[round perch]

Sinnoh is just a good gen for mons in general.

Hisua as well.