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||thousand arrows exists||
||especially with no lefties healing or anything||
||off a 90 attack stat instead of 216 special?||
when needs must
Fair.
coverage is coverage
and also
||216 spatk would, unless they utterly ignore the stat balance part of megas, necessitate taking massive amounts from the rest of zygarde somewhere||
||iirc its full stat spread is like... 216/90/80/216/85/100||
Sonething like that
||because snakegarde has 100 atk 81 spatk, and mechgarde has 100 atk 91 spatk||
ah i see
it does just
take from every other stat
Yeah, it seems to give up some bulk in exchange for that insane number
That's the highest we've ever seen, right?
no
Wait deadass?
emax has 250 defenses
Oh I meant for sp. atk specifically
If I meant in general chansey and blissey would also already prove me wrong
Just googled
The highest was Mega Mewtwo Y with 194
what other megas leaked?
Like... a lot of them. Possibly all of them.
Will send a list (spoilered)
you're a saint
Some of these stat changes baffle me a little
Why the fuck did they give ||Clefable 10 more attack (reportedly)||
two pokemon I like the rest are not for me
I care a tiny bit but none of the pokemon i would've wanted to see megas for got megas
But I'm not like. Upset with this list, ig
||mad about scolipede, but better give it speed boost as it's ability on mega||
||Falinks Sweep||
||Twas a pipe dream but I had kind of hoped Archeops and/or Tyrantrum could've gotten megas||
that's pretty normal
a lot of megas get like 10-20 in random unhelpful places
||Simply join me in little cup where tyrunt is good||
do we have ability leaks as well?
Uuuhhh, not as widespread i think?
||Zygarde gets to have aura break on top of its construct form though, seemingly||
Not that that's really impactful at all
Yeah true
Holy shit I just looked at Delphox
So it looks like Game Freak suffered a massive leak. Like plans up to 2030.
Also employee data too sadly.
Oh that’s a lot worse
Oh, yikes.
Oh also apparently ||Mega Zygarde is getting a 100 BP dragon move that ignores type immunity||
oh fuck
this is interesting
this is not
Yeah, gave them a quick look and the long and short of it contains future game titles including information on the next generation (X) and some lesser information on the one after that (so XI).
What's Gen 10's regional gimmick? /hj
||procedural generation allegedly||
the next pokemon showcase is just gonna start as a livestream with the leaker on their knees with a bag over their head
:(
||Would guess that that part is more slated for the late-game/filler, but ye||
I'll be taking things with a grain of salt until finalised, but if you want to check for yourself: ||https://www.reddit.com/r/PokeLeaks/||
On a happier note ||it's inspired by Southeast Asia and Indonesia.||
Okay maybe it'll be peak
Yeah, it's a nice surprise.
Really wasn't expecting that one, assuming the leaks hold true/things haven't changed down the line.
okay wait
i was super low on mega feraligatr
very very briefly
but this goes hard
i love that ||it has a shell over its back/head and arms that make it look like a giant totodile, but can unfold them||
Hrm... I wonder if it'll be viable at all competitively
Like that's absolutely not the most important aspect
But looking at its statline and what I know it does right now where it is viable, the stats don't play into it great
depending on what it gets as an ability
i think it will, because ||160 atk is crazy||
on a ddancer with good defensive typing
Wait what
Ok hold on I think i misread massively lmao
?
Also probably spoiler that
guess so
fair enough
i don't think it's a huge spoiler for something like feraligatr specifically though lmfao
Was reading the wrong stats 💀
I thought they gave the ddancer like 130 sp. atk for zero reason
lol
Hrmmmm
||no extra speed on gator... is it over (<JOKING AND NOT A COMP PLAYER SO DOESNT ACTUALLY CARE)||
Dw, DD fixes the speed issue
Big guy isn't a scarfer
mucking around in my image folder and found this screenshot of one of those japanese 'randomly generate something' sites
whatever. go my u-turn
Pokémon company discussing how the diamond/pearl remakes have made them realise that unova remakes must have much more care taken
wait, was the bdsp reception actually poor?
i assumed that it was just as popular as everything else
we’ve only heard bad things about BDSP
yes
it made money but nobody liked it, not even the company
that's equal parts surprising and relieving
it got heavily shafted by the scheduling
but yeah they were not happy with how it turned out
I'm still flabbergasted that they didn't do a remake of platinum
literally just dp but complete
Yes but that's just a single game instead of two that superfans can double-dip for.
alleged leaked Pikachu redesign
The one thing good that came out of it is that the game was made in unity, and I think because of this people are attempting to use it as a base to make romhacks for the other regions
They make them skinnier every year... it's not going to survive the winter...
Much as it's annoying for the company with leaks, I do like learning about the internal design process and thought that we otherwise don't get to see.
by 2030 pikachu is gonna have a snatched waist
they've played the long game for almost 30 years...
I unfortunately like the redesign a little more.
Iron Valiant is entirely unchanged and does not have a "true form" in this redesign...
Also what do you even do with Iron Moth
It's just a moth-shaped robot anyway
I feel weird about this because they're doing a really terrible job at disguising themselves as not a robot
If that's the intention
I think that's the joke.
It seems that their disguises being horrible is intentional.
Or thats how I'm interpreting the text.
Oh, I took it entirely seriously
Cause the text makes then seem a little silly and convinced their disguises work 100%.
The wings do give me funnel vibes.
That actually looks like a Glimmora.
lööps
those new megas are a real fuckin mixed bag huh
on one hand YEAH SOME OF THEM ARE SICK
on the other hand...
some of them are the physical manifestation of 😔
like straight up 😔core
like. I absolutely ||Love Mega Scolipede and Mega Froslass||
but I have ||Zero care for mega Litleo||
although ||Mega Staryu and Mega Falinx are very funny guys which I like||
Some people are taking advantage of the teraleak to push their views harder
Views?
some racist stuff but there is also people talking about how Sugimori got Kojima'd apparently
Huh?
They were already making a lot of black characters by X and Y if that's what they mean.
So like... idk, they need to get a life.
Nah, the racist stuff is separate
||Apparently Junichi Masuda and Ken sugimori had a falling out or something around the time gen 6 was developed, and by that point Masuda was no longer allowed to be the Director of Pokemon.
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if you love ||mega scolipede|| so much, maybe you could help me out real quick please and thank you
what is the design even going for?
||EXTRA EVERYTHING||
||Knight on horse maybe?||
yeah I thought it looks kind of armor-ish but I just can't pin it down
in that case you have to work on your wrestling
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who let mega starmie happen
It's just a silly little guy 😌
Ok, people talk about the silly megas
But lmao Mega Excadrill
Mega Excadrill is SO much sillier than like, Mega Dragonite
Mega Skarmory is also just a shiny but with big feet basically
Mega Drampa SLAPS
I kinda like it, even if it's not particularly special
This is true
mega malamar being a brainstem is pretty clever
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Not quite an ending
But funny
wait, is gender locked rivals something that bothers people?
I never thought about that.
from what I remember gen 6 threw a bunch of them at you.
I'm not a huge fan of them. It's not a dealbreaker but it is a bit annoying.
I feel like they matter less and less in recent years
rivals in general I mean
which is a bit weird given how much of a driving force they were in the first two games
I mean, did you play scarlet and violet
hell even hop and hau in the gens before that
scvi especially though, the three "rival" characters in that do a lot of lifting
I didn't. fair point
yeah the longer I think about this the more I realize this is nonsense
Your rival is mostly absent in Gen3 and a bit less relevant in 4, but from gen5 on the games tend to give you multiple rivals that do matter.
I kinda want more vitriol in rivals.
I don't mind nice rivals but I like Rivals you love to hate.
bede was cool
but i NEED more rivals that extrude dickishness
like I want a rival who's a rich trainer architype
who starts all snooty and haughty
but as the game goes on, they're humbled a lot by the player (and the events of the game)
funnily enough the first gen8 DLC had exactly that in Klara
ohhh Klara
right i forgot about her
...maybe that's why dickish rivals aren't remembered
eh, I liked her as a rival.
added some friction
I feel like her rivalness undercut a bit by her being all talk.
which iirc is a bit of an issue with Bede as well.
I'm not even speaking strictly mechanically (although I wish rivals and gym leaders were a bit more of a challenge). Early rivals were manageable opponents but they were also always one step ahead of you when it came to badges and plot points.
I don’t like the hater rivals, personally
Understandable. they're also easy to mess up
I do like when games give you rivals you love to hate tho
Blue and Silver are my favorite rivals
i'd say kieran is a top tier rival now
he did have a banger of a theme
oh thats true yeah
Enby rival who is obsessed with you and thinks it's just competitiveness (it's a crush)
Legends za has anti homeless benches
XY had a questline about a homeless girl
Oh I hadn't caught that actually
I thought it was just designed to be kinda flashy
They got the fucking ||CRURRY what in the hell||
thats an aspic
The fuckin ||CRASPIC||
It's very scary
I keep forgetting that Ogerpon is female and not genderless like other legendaries
Given that the "different" rivals are clearly just the same person in different clothes, I'm going to say that it's a single genderfluid person who presents opposite to you.
Genderfluid hater who present opposite to you to maximise weird tension between you
||curry with croissant as a side would be kinda fire ngl but then again im the kind of guy who puts curry on toast||
All I see is three soon to be soggy croissants and I weep
That phrase in the Pokémon context always makes me think of https://imgur.com/gallery/PRLLoBR
God
Mega Greninja Speed Tying Dragapult is so nasty
That's such a nasty counter, although at least it takes your mega slot to do it
i wonder what it'll get for its ability
nope 0/10 game now
||croissant and Japanese curry would go crazy||
||yeah but this is croissants with english (indian) curry aspic||
0/10 game
Saw jokes about lumiose being dystopian
Night in the backstreets: Every night in Lumiose, for a period of time, the poorers areas are swept by ravenous dark, poison and ghost types, elimimating most people out at this period
that's amazing
Something that I haven't seen people talk about much
Mega Dragonite is actually a special leaning attacker
45
ends up 124 vs 145
+20 def, spdef, speed
Yeah
But regardless I think it's interesting
i got tripped up by your 20 spdef lmao
Why I said ~20
Instead of 20
😄
But it gets Hurricane and Draco Meteor for good stab, air slash maybe if you want something that hits more than Hurricane but usually I think you'd do Hurricane
Tera Blast ofc
It gets thunder and Hurricane
So I think running it in rain teams is kinda interesting
Hydro Pump/Draco Meteor/Hurricane/Thunder
Is pretty nasty moveset
you'd probably be using things like ice beam, thunder, fire blast/flamethrower/heat wave, focus blast, etc.
over tera blast
Yeah
It has a really good special movepool tho'
idt you care about hitting fairies SE
yeah
gen 1 mon
which means it gets all the cracked elementals
Doesn't it still get Extremespeed?
yep
that's physical, though
's why regular dnite runs tera normal a lot
free stab
True, but 124 Atk ESpeed still hurts even if you aren't specced for it. Take a chunk out of potential revenge killers.
ehhhhh
Though I think at that point you don't run the mega.
non-stab, 0 investment isn't enough to be worth it over coverage super often
it would be a rare pick
wait we still have tera in ZA?
no idea
i don't have it
i'm just talking about from the gen 9 dragonite perspective
oh
ZA does not have tera
okay we good
But yeah you probably don't run Extremespeed if you're planning on investing in special attack for the mega
If you don't invest in special attack, you probably just don't run the mega.
Wait... can you just... change gender, lol?
your gender choice largely affects, as far as i can tell, your chin shape / your hip shape and your pronouns, and then your rival
Taking in the sights
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Mega energy that turns you woke
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I'm currently in awe of no retreat mega falinks
what funky little guys
highest cooldown for a move in za, fun fact
Oh Feraligatr you kind of got it rough didnt ya
First your name can't fit and now this
Reminded of the animal crossing comic
Where isabelle comments the mayor (with pink hair and a cute dress) changed a lot, holding a picture of her as a shy man in boring clothes
The mayor rips the picture in half and makes a new law: no talking about the past
So the blog is gone
I found the comic on knowyourmeme, which marked it as sensitive content for some reason?
maybe because her thighs are about as thick as her head if memory serves
Poor Isabelle 😔
The pokemon teams that gen10 wants
TIL Mega Starmie is a physical attacker???
Wild
What the fuck
It's a mixed attacker
It has 140 attack and 130 spatk
Does it have any physical coverage???
that 140 atk is going to be 100
in main
because it's going to have huge power instead
The theory is that it has 100 atk, 130 spatk, and Pure Power
based on the treatment of mega medicham and mawile, where they did the same thing
Because it gains too many stats and other pure power/huge power got 40 extra attack yeah
Pure Power is WAY better than 40 atk so
That's gonna be nuts
yeah
If Mega Starmie becomes an OU staple i may stop playing Pokémon showdown altogether
Why is there Showdown for PLZA when there wasn't for PLA?
Waterfall, Avalanch, Psycho Cut, Gyro Ball, Facade even before ZA
And it gets Aqua Jet, Liquidation, Headbutt, Flip Turn, Zen Headbutt, Self-Destruct
In ZA
For notable physical moves
Hrmmm
My bet is we'll see something like Aqua Jet, Liquidation, Zen Headbutt, Utility/Self-Destruct
No boltbeam type coverage but that is pretty solid
There's like zero chance it'll use Gyro Ball ofc
And its coverage is like, fine
It'll be interesting to see if pokemon actually need to hold mega stones going forward
Would be an interesting tweak on it if they don't
Seems likely they do tho;'
And they just didn' tput them in for ZA?
IDK
Eager to see how Champions handles a lot of stuff
you do NEED the mega stones to mega in ZA
as in they need to be in your inventory
does ZA have held items?
Yes
But the mega stones don't need to be held
You can have like, choice scarf megas
Oh that's disgusting
The way mega-evolution works in ZA is you fill a meter every time you do... Almost anything, honestly
It feels much nicer in the battle system.
And then you use it to use Plus Moves which do a bit more damage but also do some story relevant things, and also to Mega Evolution
The ZA action-combat genuinely feels good to engage with, its been a delight
Which just drains the meter over time
ive been likening Mega Evo in ZA to DBZ games with transformation meters using energy
I think that the ZA system massively nerfs the speed stat
It's relevant but not nearly as good
I'm okay with speed tiers taking a hit for the combat system
You basically can't just sweep people without them getting to respond, almost every pokemon will get at least one swing off for instance
It pretty heavily incentivizes bulky slow pokemon IMO
nah, faster pokemon getting better move cooldowns does matter imo
esp in the 4-player royales online
I didn't say it doesn't matter. 😛
this is just my early experience tho i could come around on it as i play more
But it's definitely easier to wall than it is to sweep IMO
I haven't experienced the 4-player royales tho'
Okay i'll be more specific: i don't think it incentivizes slow bulky pokemon, i think it makes it easier to have more back-and-forth and tug of war IN battles so you always have a shot
and there are hitbox/speed benefits to running (smaller/faster) guys
I mean, I think having more tug of war incentivizes pokemon that both take a hit and give it back
Compared to fast glass cannons
i do think it makes priority moves much much worse, that i can for sure add in
Oh yeah for sure.
Regarding hitboxes, I think it's just going to make moves that have consistent hitboxes better.
with speed tho: you ARE right you cant sweep, but i do think speed becomes much more vital on... status/setup pokemon, since you have [less attacks] so you cant just cooldown faceroll your 4 attacks nonstop
gunna keep an eye on bulky vs softer pokemon as i go up in ranks tho
good thing to keep in mind and see if i see trends
Yarr.
Like, Mega Beedrill for instance at least during the story just felt SAD
Compared what it normally would feel like IMO
speaking of story-mode pokemon that feel good: Bois is one of the funniest gifts pokemon has ever given
just having a fantastic coffee with my yellow rat, i sure hope theres no gigantic hell dogs waiting to kill me
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not true, the mega meter doesn't get activated if you don't have the stone held
(just tested it rn)
Oh my b, for some reason I thought you just needed it in your inventory
no biggie
Is everyone playing on the switch 2?
My house has it on the switch 1
It plays mostly fine
TBH
There are issues here and there but nothing like what Scar/Vi gets
Hm.
I think it helps that there's like, nowhere near the amount of wide open spaces
I suspect half the reason of the reason this is a city is for the same reasons many old games have a lot of fog
They saw the problems the Switch had with things in Scarlet and Violet and went "Oh let's not have those problems again."
Aiui switch 1 runs at 30fps vs 60fps for switch 2
If that’s a thing you care about
I mean. Both probably.
Be true to yourself but also consider going "it's for mechanical reasons that are pretty boring for most people, do you want to hear more?"
i like blacephalon because it's a silly little guy :D
also really cool shiny
He only likes them for merit and function, transactional.. not believing in friendship
Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people...
Cephy did seem like a bit of a hater in the anime though
Maybe too alien to know other stuff doesnt like to explode
big goomy...
see the trick is to answer mimikyu and gengar on the first date and whip out buzzwole and blacephalon later
I'm sorry but blacephalon is just another take on mr. mime
they keep trying to make clowns happen
Mine is Dunsparce, because fat snek :) and also because Serene Grace paraflinching.
I like Blacephalon a lot
I know nothing about Gen 7 OU I just know it has a rivalry with Xurkitree and I've decided that they're yuri
And also that its design is the only good clown type pokemon
Serene grace paraflinching is the height of evil
I think there’s no bad reason like a Pokémon tbh
She could have just said she didn't care about going in depth on mechanics
blacephalon is real as fuck
Would you guys be okay with Pokémon having voice acting, but only if it was a made up language?
It'd be acceptable
I feel like certain scenes in recent games are scripted and animated with expressions that have have voice acting in mind but it was like they couldn't get it approved and it was left in as is which just makes it feel really awkward.
One gym leader actually sang
simlish
Yeah.
they should use the splatoon language 1:1 and never elaborate on the implications
I'm ok with voice acting without it being a made up language
Why is that a requirement lmao
expands the expense significantly for localization I suppose?
You only have to make one dub.
it would fit with the funny implication that pokemon language is something else which is why reading "unown" is a magical skill / years of hard work
I mean, written language already works that way.
yeah
but this is fantasy-to-real-world in the sense of
WE the viewers know Unown are lil english letters
no I mean the pokemon written language is already a made up one if you look at any sign or billboard in the newer games.
yeah
i think just having some not-animal-crossing text sfx would make the games way better
some babble like hylian/monster hunter does help also with not needing localization (VAs and localization costs $$$ which gamefreak specifically does not have, surprise)
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i enjoy how much the game opens up once the tutorial ends
Is everyone hanging out in the city
I dont see screenshots of anywhere else
theres only the city in ZA
Yeah its entirely within Lumiose!:
You can get a fake ending by leaving
How diverse is the city btw?
Oh the entire pokemon game in one city huh
Fucked up city where wild animals go berserk
Feels very Lumiose! Lots of little wild zone parks w environs
Here
Truly, lumiose is ruthless
Its much nicer in reality / ignoring memes
Games going for more of a "you have to be really responsible with how you integrate nature into cities" route
we got a good variety of environments, including manmade zones for like ice types and such
Hm.
Been having loads of fun with ZA :3
We were hoping there would be a bit more visual distinction in the city, but it’s not getting in the way of our enjoyment, plus we like the new battling system. Too bad abilities don’t exist, because some Pokemon just aren’t great without them
I’ve also been fucking with ZA
Much more than I did arceus
I love being a menace in the night segments
Yeah I'm still not sold on the combat system overall but it clearly had good ideas and it could go somewhere interesting
It's perfectly acceptable for a side game though
Arceus I only didn’t get super into because of the framerate. If it got a 60fps Switch 2 patch there’s a very real chance it’d be a top 3 favorite game in the series for us
I'm still amazed that we've dropped like an hour for the Pokemon Speedrun just based on lag
For scarvi
And swapped games because the reason we didn't use miraidon was purely because the extra particles caused too much last
Lag
been doing a lot of neat speed experiments, you can shove off some hefty seconds off cooldowns
I can’t wait for people to use the tornado dunk to get places they’re not meant to in the speedrun
There’s just not enough meat on them
I don't understand why 30 fps is a dealbreaker.
spewpa has plenty of meat
Humans have plenty of meat
I do like the combat system in Legends, but liiiike.. a not-small amount of Pokes kind of have a lot of identity involved in their Abilities
it feels like it wouldn't be that much a stretch to include them somehow
Yeah the lack of abilities is very sad
I imagine the next Legends game will include abilities, as long as they stick with this combat system.
i cant speak for everyone but i have not missed abilities here
or rather their exclusion hasnt affected any... teambuilding or strats and i havent noticed any particular pokemon being left out or improved
Mega Malamar (and Mega Pyroar) can only be saved by an ability as either sleep merchant or superpower spammer. As it is, My Friend Malamar? More like My Fraud Malamar. 
They could have been gooby and had good stats. 
I just looked at Mega Pyroar's stats, and wow, how unimaginative. +20 to everything.
i think that's the only mega with +20 to everything in the game, so
that's rather unique
...really? So it is. I thought there was another one.
no others that i can think of!
wonderful to know that they decided to completely waste a mega
that's what we all thought about the last one
It’s not very good at the all rounder thing unfortunately 😔
[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) the ultimate all-rounder is kinda fun to have in some ways
im simple to please i think he looks goofy and that makes me happy
it's on a pokemon not suited to be an all-rounder, and all-rounders generally suffer due to being kind of mid at everything anyways
it'd be nice if it were properly versatile, but it simply does not have that
I mean the plus twenty in attack is clearly wasted but
The stats aren't criminal
It just has very unfortunate typing to be honest
If it has a strong ability it'll still be fine
But a normal/fire special attacker is just
Not something that people usually want
i can only examine it within ZA itself and in there its just another fun goofy fire guy with a funny hyper beam
Yeah I basically just expect it to have the same problems as normal version of the Pokemon but also taking mega resource
and i get a big giggle watching its hair to floof
I think my favorite ability for it would be adaptability
Fire normal isn't a particularly strong offense combination so I think it can have it without it being too much of a problem
But it's still a very strong ability
To be fair, 'Anything/Normal' is hooking its entire offensive setup on whatever the 'anything' is. XD
hey now, STAB Return/X-Speed puts in da numbers
Imagine if normal had been super effective on fairy.
unless you're like, exactly hisuian zoroark
that loves having normal to deal with enemy normal and dark types
course, fighting would obviously be better
but it also enjoys the ghost immunity
H Zoroark is the only Pokémon immune to both its types.
Are there any type combos besides normal/ghost which this can happen with?
Ground/Electric with Levitate? 😛
if we're counting abilities there's tons of mono electric types with Lightning Rod or mono fire types with Flash Fire.
I mean, fair, but I do specifically mean type combos. I want dual types here
mega malamar is so funny
yeah, poor malamar...
30 spatk is a fucking robbery
the spdef is good, though
you want to be able to survive a flamethrower or something
if it got like, 20 atk 10 def instead of the spatk, it'd be in a much better spot
There's a number of the megas who got more bonus in their less-used defense stat
Not sure why
I suspect they wanted the megas in general to be less powerful than they were previously maybe?
definitely feels like that, based on the constant trend of wasted stats
in the new set
but defense stats aren't really a waste
The fact you can mega evolve multiple times is also
A strong reason to keep them less insane
if it had been given 30 def and +5 atk
taking 5 from the 15 speed
and all 30 spatk
Yeah that'd be pretty cool
it would have been in so much better of a spot imo
Malamar being bulky AF would be a good thing for it tbh
Since its often so much setup
yeah, its best singles set is already like
resttalk
so making that more viable in a higher tier would've been much better for it
tera is a form change not a crystal, despite looking like a crystal. And I would argue that Dynamax is in fact a crystal.
I don't think this is a good meme it's just playing on the fact that z-crystals and tera types both use crystals
as a specific exception, I see the Legends Arceus move styles thing as essentialy a gimmick
I wish we got the move styles in a new gen.
Would have made for a very different battle system for sure; would need to adjust a number of things to make it work as well as the current one does
Move styles are interesting but I'll admit I found them a bit underwhelming/they didn't work great for all moves.
I don't mind leaving them in ancient hisui
I think the mega power meter / plus moves works really nicely
.. I do not remember Move Styles at all
Agile/Strong from Legend Arceus
I beat Arceus! Still nothing
So my vote is they weren't interesting or impactful enough
they could break the game wide open when used correctly, prettttty nasty stuff
My issue was I felt like they fell hard into 'best option' quite often. You didn't generally use Normal, Fast and Strong.
Agile gave you better initiative/action speed in exchange for less power / less status effects, Strong slowed you down in initiative but packed a punch
Yeah, there were always ways to set up "okay if i use agile i can attack 4 times in a row!" sort of silliness
i did like that some evolutions were tied to it, that was neat
my results
my stats are uh
kind of ass, huh...
I like these results though, I think
true, true
I'd need to know my moveset, but I think it'd be neat to be a pokemon like amoongus or indeedee that functions as a strong support pokemon that helps a sweeper reach its maximum potential
Type to stall physical attackers, I guess.
water fairy physical wall... is actually pretty solid, I think!
and you have something to clear status on switch
with the right utility tools, I think you might make for a solid assault vest support wall? I'm not too well versed in teambuilding but I think that'd be something
Assault Vest only lets you use attacks
Not usually a utility pokemon
Natural Cure + good defenses is a traditionally good wall tho'
You're kinda a physically defensive Blissy instead of a SpDef focused
I remember there being a decent amount of mons who can run assault vest as "support" because they have enough attacking moves more focused on their side effects
like uh... I think hatterene with like, mystical fire, nuzzle, etc. with assault vest is a thing
though generally I think walls also want recovery so yeah probably not assault vest now that I'm thinking about it
"Utility pokemon that wants assault vest" sounds like a fun CreateAPokemon project
for doubles, there's moves like pollen puff!
for singles, stuff like nuzzle, uhhhh
mystical fire
Scald
scald yeah
Doubles has like, Icy Wind
It's doable but you gotta be pretty specific
Struggle Bug sees usage sometimes
yeah, and its the neat sort of thesis a lot of the CAP projects work from
Yeah
One of these is not like the others
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no two months option uwu
Tempermental
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That said geez, that's a pretty interesting stat spread and ability lineup for a pokemon
:O rose-pokemon got hella defense lmao
i wonder if i'll get fairy too
indeedee typing...
I did it too! :3
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oh that physical/special dichotomy is interesting. That stat spread + typing screams trick room sweeper, but Hospitality on top of that is interesting.
ice is an incredible stab, and I think pairs rather nicely with fairy
I think it does. Ground/Fairy is technically better, but in a way that I'm glad there's no pokemon of that type.
ground/fairy would be atrocious to fight, I think.
huh... neat... I wonder if you could actually get use out of contrary with a stat spread like that
my stats are so ass bro 💀
couldn't do like... draco meteor/leaf storm double stab
that'd be broken...
it'd be fine on 35 spatk
Yeah I was going to say, any dragon type with Contrary is scary... but not with 35 SpAtk...
its ok we just have to evolve!!
we just have to find a trainer who loves and respects us!!
No even if you evolve, you probably won't be specially biased.
Though I guess I don't know for sure.
we just have to evolve and be loved and show off our true power and anything is possible
i just need gamefreak to throw me a bone with a phys leafstorm or phys draco meteor
This is what you get if you choose the bottom option on every choice
technician normal stab is also stupid
holy defense stat
(relevant because goomy pfp lmfao)
need to spritz you with a water bottle at all times!!
i will dry out
I shared the quiz in another server and these are the first two results:
Remarkably similar.
My GF has the same type, two of the same features, and two of the same abilities.
Got mono water or grass/fairy
The odd thing there is fairy secondary calls me extroverted
Huh high defense
Technician, hydration, contrary
Gonna post screenshots later
The results are funny
Used to be big on water starters, but got into fire later
Well, I picked fennekin, but also grabbed squirtle later
lotta weaknesses, two of them brutally common, but also a huge pile of resistances
ice fairy poison steel
the main issue I can think of immediately is probably getting walled by steel types if it lacks strong coverage
but dragon and fairy both have stellar resistance suites, and they don't overlap negatively with each other
weak to ice, fairy, and steel kinda sucks
hmmmm
guts on a fire type isn't so great
but i could see it doing well on a normal/fighting mon with those sort of stats
bit slow unfortunately
yeahhhhh
95 speed is in that awkward speed tier where it's too fast for trick room, but not fast enough outside of it.
But yeah, guts on a physical normal type is always going to be something.
fighting and normal get decent priority moves at least
So, what do you all think?
Hydration is honestly probably the best ability of those three for either typing. A mono-water wall with hydration is entirely solid, even with poor attacking stats; a grass/fairy wall with the same stats would be slightly worse due to its quad weakness, but still good.
Alomomola energy, basically, and that somehow made it to OU.
alomomola is mostly good for being a slow bulky regenerator pivot
it also kind of has scald
Yeah, and this would need to use recover instead of healing off of flip turn, but hydration is genuinely a really good ability in its own right. It's less flexible as a pivot than Alomomola, but also harder to force out.
Well, for the grass/fairy typing
The wall-ness seems to mitigate the weaknesses
...it's more like the quad weakness mitigates the wall-ness. But it's not that bad of a typing!
four regular weaknesses and a quad weakness sucks, but five resists and an immunity is good.
Yeah, it's cool!
Grass/Fairy is, in my opinion, neither an especially good nor an especially bad type combo both offensively and defensively.
the issue is being weak to fire is not great
as fire is a strong stab type
not that fire weak mons are bad, of course
I got, uh
Slush rush kinda helps the speed issue? But my stats aren't doing much other than that
I guess delibird's typing is cool, I could see myself in lower tiers on a hail team as a brave bird sweeper
but that base 45 defense is painful
Yeah, definitely a lower tier sweeper who's reliant on snow but otherwise probably OK.
Not enough reliable flying physical stab
And also you don't want to be forced into heavy duty boots while also maybe wanting a choice band or something to supplement mediocre attack
Invest in defense and be a water type slush rush for ice teams
Part of ice teams problem is that nothing that isn't ice tends to benefit
Although getting +50% defense is pretty good
Yeah, you just take the ice/flying
Invest in Defense and Attack
Probably
I think you might actually just take Thick Fat
Gives you ice resist and negates your fire weakness
Invest in defense and then the +50% from snow helps decently?
A rock type pokemon still going to eat you alive ofc...
Shrug
I think it's a better plan than being the sweeper.
Ice has so many sweeper options
Ice/Flying with Thick Fat is nutty
You're... 4x to rock, 2x to steel and electric, immune to ground, resist bug, grass, and ice
Honestly not the worst
is this good
Flying grass is a bit of a rough typing since you're 4x weak to ice
I think speed boost with a baton pass set
Bulky baton pass utility
Your offense is rough so I think you skip Technician
I could see a meta-call for Lightning Rod tho'
Yeah, that all sounds about right to me
But if Baton Pass isn't banned and you have access to it
A bulky baton pass with speed boost is like, good enough to be meta-defining as a concept
Not a great set of resists for it but you're bulky as hell generally
And just like, Tailwind/Leech Seed/PowderOfChoice is a pretty good set in a lot of formats
okay this angle does interest me actually
Another teammate will have to solve the rock problem I suppose
Yeah, but "Solving the rock problem" is a pretty normal thing for a team to have to do somewhere
😄
Tohu, what's my strat? Feels like a stall and swing with self-debuff moves
Oh god you're Moody
You take the pure fairy type and Moody and you just RNG your way to victory
Yeah, the dual type isn't really worth considering there
Ice/Normal the only way I can see it being good is like, if you had Extremespeed/Ice Shard incredibly high attack stat or something
Just a pure glass cannon
Even then it runs into coverage issues
Quad fighting weakness is such a nightmare
Just stall out for insane moody boosting and then sweep, especially since your stats are decently balanced and such
Moonlight is a pretty common enough move, and I think some get recover
Reflect/Screen/Stored Power/Moonlight or something
Hard walled by a dark type
Yeah
But yeah sounds about right
Cosmic Power/Stored Power/Recover/Moonblast maybe
Probably don';t get that perfect of a moveset so something like
Protect/Moonlight/Moonblast/Utility
Some things good. Some things...not.
Huh.
'Oh god please let me have a priority move'
Well, fire/fairy mixed attacker is in theory a good concept.
Oooh, Technician and Moxie with Atk like that is nice
Decent moves in both to be technician
The issue is those defences + that speed.
But I fear you just die with those def and spdef
I'm Fire Rampardos ;-;
Yeah
Fire/Fairy Rampardos is a sick thing to be, to be fair. Like, you'll terrorize NU or ZU something fierce.
But it's really hard to see this seeing even UU play much
Game, give me a priority move for technician + that attack/sp attack 😛
If you get some sick setup from a passer, or Trick Room, it's sweeping time
Don't ask me how Flower Veil fits in there. I'm shocked it's even an option for that type combo.
Shrug
Kinda has 'burning incense' vibes
But yeah, mixed attacking trick room sweeper sounds really nice
Fire/Fairy is really good stab combo
Yeah. It's good offensive typing with good offensive stats. It's mostly just That Speed that's an issue.
Probably still not better than UU
Someone is gonna show up with Aqua Jet and ruin your day
XD
It's just a fairly common move
But getting to UU with a combined total of 120 in defenses and speed is honestly impressive
That giant hp stat lets it be surprisingly bulky with a little investment so people would have to gamble a little
You probably end up investing defense and then either attack, special attack, or spdef depending on strategy
Since basically all priority moves are physical
There's vacuum wave but you resist it
What was your 'Mon, Tohu?
And then thunderclap/water shuriken are signature moves so
Here
Damn. Ideal setup spread
Psychic/grass has the big 4x bug weak problem so probably just taking Fairy
Just take Cloud Nine and screw weather teams and have good utility
Would be my goal probably
It's a bit boring but
Strategic utility vs weather teams is nice
They kinda just snowball unless you packed a handbrake, yeah
Probably a lot better in doubles where you could see if the enemy is doing weather and bring me if they are or skip if they're not
Having a strong defensive utility pokemon that's also a safety valve vs a common strategy is like, a thing doubles likes a lot generally.
I never got into the doubles scene. Seems like a different world
It's a lot faster
Only 4 pokemon and 2 actions per turn means matches end really fast
That makes sense
But yeah I'm a pokemon probably no one WANTS to bring but you're always grateful is thereif you need it XD
As where like, that crazy trick room offense thing Ikiryo is? Someone is gonna LOVE doing that.
They get one turn in the sun to annihilate someone with a solar beam and then...well, their ass is grass
Zoomy
115 HP is not trivial, but you're probably using solar power. ...unless you have spore. If you have spore, you're a different, much worse menace.
Oh I didn't even think about that. Yikes
I just have to assume no spore. Honestly even spamming sleep powder, which is more plausible, would be annoying but managable.
I might try this again but with a character of mine in mind rather than just 'me'
Tried it with my current RPG character and...no Aininur. Stop that. You're powergaming.
Entertainingly for someone who got Dragon and Fire, she's a Vampire character.
'Good news Aininur: You're Infernape with less stats and a better ability'
That's fair
I wonder how long it will take the game to eventually get a Ground/Fairy. As it's a disgusting type combo that is one of the few that hasn't had a showing yet.
...also: Man, I've been out of serious playing for too long, checking the pokemon that can't even make OU any more. I don't know when Salamance and Latios dropped to UU but man, I feel old now.
mence has been uu since ~gen 6, latios has hovered between ou and uu since about that long
gone back and forth, depending
the real fucking It's Joever moment
is ttar and chomp in uu
turns into dust
The paradox Pokemon kinda pushed anything that was high just because it had good stats out
Since they have really good stats and a strong ability
it being a scarf that can't be knocked off and doesn't lock you for the sweepers is brutal
Yeah
Also just the qty and mix of types
Means that if all you want is something that hits hard
There's probably a type combo that does it for you
I have no idea if these stats are usable. Monotype Water, or Water/Ice with high HP, and high Speed looks obnoxious to fight at the very least.
Potential really good doubles utility pokemon with Friend Guard
But your odffense stats are so bad that you have to make up for it with utility
Mono water would be stronger than water ice fo that stat spread. Otherwise, you'd just be friend guard + icy wind spam, probably. Maybe setting weather or something?
Yeah. Technician with that sorta attack/sp attack doesn't really have too much it can go with and illuminate is...legally...an ability.
So Friend Guard Support sorta ends up my thoughts.
Also, good HP, but those defensive stats are very dubious.
I think Illuminate does something in battle now.
Apparently it prevents accuracy from being lowered
That is, in fact, technically something. That's all I can say about it.
If it ignored evasion too it might even be useful
Seriously, why not add that on top? It's not like any of the 'Mons with Illuminate would upend the game
Very funny potential development in ZA ranked shenanigans: Stunfisk might have a place in the meta because beam attacks tend to miss it
Wait, hit-box shenanigans???
finally
its easy to just Not See Him as you focus on looking at Mega Charizard and Mega Gyarados from your other two opponents and then suddenly Stunfisk is There, having gotten under all the flamethrowers, spamming discharge to deal with the best pokemon in ranked, Skarmory
HOLY SHIT?
THE PROPHECY HAS COME TRUE
R/STUNFISK REAL
Greninjite acquired!
The online mode is actually really fun, even if there's not a ton of depth
HE IS REAL
So
Like many
I have not really paid much attention to Delibird
But today I learned that two of its three abilities are sleep immunity
Which is just
So sad
Delibird is an earnest working poke, wants to courier, not dofighting.

Today we learned you can encounter ||alpha eeveelutions in wild areas.|| possible postgame spoilers since we found this in a postgame area
yup! its how im finishing my dex
Retaliate does not seem good
Yeah
Its nice for your early game normal type to have something with some oomph behind it early on, which fits with where you originally get it (2nd gym)
Yeah it's worth remembering a lot of Pokemon was initially designed as an adventure resource game first
A lot of early design is supposed to be useful when you get it and replaced later
Retaliate was introduced gen 5
Is ingrain good? Have it on my roselia
ingrain is... hrm
Ingrain is okay on bulky pokemon
iirc it heals you a little bit each turn and keeps you from being phased out or switching
Roselia... might be a stretch
I think best on bulky set-up sweepers
Pokemon Y replay
Grinding a bit on the route from lumiose to laverre town
Had a funny moment where I thought a pokemon didn't see necessary to catch, then remembered I can "beat" trevor by having a fuller pokedex than him
Crushing Calem isn't enough, Trevor needs to be defeated too
Oh damn
the big thing is that the answers will vary heavily because a [story playthrough] has a lot less difficulty and stakes
Evolving inkay is a bit troublesome to evolve due to forgetting to flip 3ds at end of battles
I decided to just keep it flipped in fights when the exp bar is close to full
A bit harder to fight, but an interesting challenge
Also seeing the battle upside down is cool
I can get by with giga drain and black sludge
Ingrain is inconvenient, yeah
Even if a story playthrough is easier, I like to learn a bit more antway
I finally got malamar, abd decided to explore laverre town, while leaving the gym for later
There's a nice variety of weirdos in here, including a few hex maniacs
A kid gives me torment. And old man thinks short phrases are stories, his wife collects arbok shed skin to make things
An hex maniac gave me a gengarite and comments she has no friends to trade with
A dude likes small pokemon, and gives me a doll upon seeing my roselia
Another dude distributes effort ribbons to pokemon, which I forget what they are
An hex maniac can read badges to know which pokemon you beat a gym with
Also the guy who says pokemon and humans were once the same, with a story of a froakie turning into a human
Effort ribbons are what you get when you fully EV train a Pokemon.
I wanna be friends with the hex maniac who doesn't have any friends to trade with :(
Here in my country, the food sellers dont give a fuck about copywright
We have dan from bakugan selling hotdogs and 2D from gorillaz selling spicy peanuts
And then we also have this
Same
Saw an incredibles themed food thing
Super meals...
Spiritually similar to mexican taquería
such is the commonality between two survivors of spanish colonization
no one survives Spanish colonisation. We just all get a little more taquería Goku with it
you're Filipino yeah?
my spirit is telling me Mindanao but that's probably wrong
its Mindanao yes
nvm I'm the goat
I've seen plenty of cafeteria Pikachu but nothing truly out there sadly
ive seen axew once hit that the nichest it got
whoaw axew
good taste on the food stall's part
amazing
Intersting mix
i saw a sealio at a doctor's office once
like, art on the waiting room wall
and in new york i saw a kebab dude with a grubbin plushie
those are the only odd ones i can think of
NoriZC (who also does character illustrations for Arknights) fanart for a mega porygon concept
dorothycore...
be not afraid
Porygon evolutions feel like a bit of a letdown because the base form is perfect and also such a relic of its time.
arguably even for its time a little retro
i think theyre cute
pory2 being from gen 2 is such a nice little time capsule to me, when 3d modeling was evolving so quickly
they're not bad
but they lose the weirdness
for me at least
PorygonZ is cool but
eh
can't really explain my issue it without waggling my arms and saying "it's missing the thing"
porygon is the first 3d model you make
pory2 is the 100th or so 3d model you make
poryZ is when you go too ham on the smoothing option in zbrush and fuck fuck fuck go back shit
yeah i love that they're all different kinds of shitty and dinky
Wait was it supposed to be a bird to begin with?
Because I had no recognition of it as a bird art any point
If anything it was like, a head on tank treads or something
Huh, yeah, I can kind of see it.
I adore porygon
I have a soft spot for pokemon with the "oh no" expression
it's more obvious starting with pory2 but even base porygon can be read as duck-like
it isnt super obvious though
porygon is supposed to be a malformed duck where someone fucked up the modelling and misplaced the limbs
i like this part on the x-variant
a trace of the past self exists in the current self
Porygon z is a malformed injection lmaooo
oh i just noticed
porygon is shaded to look pretty matte
but pory2 is shiny and reflective
the base material in maya (current most popular industry 3d modeling software) is matte
and the fancier materials (phong, blin) are shiny and reflective
They also did Pokémon designs for some of their OCs
regional decidueye silence...
yeah i love those ones , especially sariagon
Steel/Fire
Nothing particularly Evil about its metaphysics I think
There are mechs that probably deserve Dark type, but I don't think the Balor is one of them
If you want to skip Steel, I'd say Water/Fire
i would support fire/water, yeah