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timber vale
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||admittedly, one of the best defensive mons this generation is that, so... who knows. Maybe be a Kyurem Black thing where just little enough coverage is in its moveset to be vaguely balanced?||

languid lichen
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||thousand arrows exists||

timber vale
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||especially with no lefties healing or anything||

timber vale
languid lichen
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when needs must

timber vale
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Fair.

languid lichen
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coverage is coverage

timber vale
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Give it earth power gamefreak

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Nothing could go wrong

languid lichen
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and also

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||216 spatk would, unless they utterly ignore the stat balance part of megas, necessitate taking massive amounts from the rest of zygarde somewhere||

timber vale
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Sonething like that

languid lichen
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||because snakegarde has 100 atk 81 spatk, and mechgarde has 100 atk 91 spatk||

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ah i see

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it does just

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take from every other stat

timber vale
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Yeah, it seems to give up some bulk in exchange for that insane number

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That's the highest we've ever seen, right?

languid lichen
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no

timber vale
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Wait deadass?

languid lichen
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emax has 250 defenses

timber vale
languid lichen
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ah

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my brain is skewed by smogon OMs, but maybe

timber vale
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If I meant in general chansey and blissey would also already prove me wrong

timber vale
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The highest was Mega Mewtwo Y with 194

pliant violet
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what other megas leaked?

timber vale
pliant violet
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sorry was unclear

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what were the new megas leaked

timber vale
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Will send a list (spoilered)

pliant violet
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you're a saint

timber vale
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Some of these stat changes baffle me a little

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Why the fuck did they give ||Clefable 10 more attack (reportedly)||

pliant violet
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two pokemon I like the rest are not for me

timber vale
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I care a tiny bit but none of the pokemon i would've wanted to see megas for got megas

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But I'm not like. Upset with this list, ig

pliant violet
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||mad about scolipede, but better give it speed boost as it's ability on mega||

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||Falinks Sweep||

timber vale
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||Twas a pipe dream but I had kind of hoped Archeops and/or Tyrantrum could've gotten megas||

languid lichen
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a lot of megas get like 10-20 in random unhelpful places

pliant violet
languid lichen
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do we have ability leaks as well?

timber vale
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||Zygarde gets to have aura break on top of its construct form though, seemingly||

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Not that that's really impactful at all

timber vale
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Holy shit I just looked at Delphox

languid lichen
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that's a solid statline

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i hope it gets a good ability

signal glen
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So it looks like Game Freak suffered a massive leak. Like plans up to 2030.

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Also employee data too sadly.

pliant violet
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Oh that’s a lot worse

timber vale
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Oh, yikes.

timber vale
# timber vale

Oh also apparently ||Mega Zygarde is getting a 100 BP dragon move that ignores type immunity||

languid lichen
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this is interesting

languid lichen
glossy umbra
timber vale
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What's Gen 10's regional gimmick? /hj

glossy umbra
honest cairn
timber vale
glossy umbra
# timber vale :(

||Would guess that that part is more slated for the late-game/filler, but ye||

glossy umbra
# timber vale :(

On a happier note ||it's inspired by Southeast Asia and Indonesia.||

timber vale
glossy umbra
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Yeah, it's a nice surprise.

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Really wasn't expecting that one, assuming the leaks hold true/things haven't changed down the line.

languid lichen
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okay wait

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i was super low on mega feraligatr

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very very briefly

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but this goes hard

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i love that ||it has a shell over its back/head and arms that make it look like a giant totodile, but can unfold them||

timber vale
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Hrm... I wonder if it'll be viable at all competitively

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Like that's absolutely not the most important aspect

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But looking at its statline and what I know it does right now where it is viable, the stats don't play into it great

languid lichen
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depending on what it gets as an ability

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i think it will, because ||160 atk is crazy||

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on a ddancer with good defensive typing

timber vale
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Ok hold on I think i misread massively lmao

languid lichen
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?

timber vale
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Also probably spoiler that

languid lichen
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guess so

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fair enough

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i don't think it's a huge spoiler for something like feraligatr specifically though lmfao

timber vale
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Was reading the wrong stats 💀

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I thought they gave the ddancer like 130 sp. atk for zero reason

languid lichen
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lol

timber vale
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Hrmmmm

near flower
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||no extra speed on gator... is it over (<JOKING AND NOT A COMP PLAYER SO DOESNT ACTUALLY CARE)||

timber vale
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Big guy isn't a scarfer

near flower
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mucking around in my image folder and found this screenshot of one of those japanese 'randomly generate something' sites

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whatever. go my u-turn

deft path
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Pokémon company discussing how the diamond/pearl remakes have made them realise that unova remakes must have much more care taken

languid lichen
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wait, was the bdsp reception actually poor?

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i assumed that it was just as popular as everything else

soft isleBOT
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we’ve only heard bad things about BDSP

deft path
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it made money but nobody liked it, not even the company

languid lichen
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that's equal parts surprising and relieving

deft path
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it got heavily shafted by the scheduling

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but yeah they were not happy with how it turned out

languid lichen
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I'm still flabbergasted that they didn't do a remake of platinum

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literally just dp but complete

signal glen
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Yes but that's just a single game instead of two that superfans can double-dip for.

crude moon
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alleged leaked Pikachu redesign

languid lichen
blissful needle
timber vale
glossy umbra
exotic garden
languid lichen
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oh no

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nintendo of america will have its big titty pikachu

exotic garden
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they've played the long game for almost 30 years...

round perch
round perch
timber vale
arctic dagger
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Also what do you even do with Iron Moth

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It's just a moth-shaped robot anyway

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I feel weird about this because they're doing a really terrible job at disguising themselves as not a robot

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If that's the intention

round perch
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I think that's the joke.

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It seems that their disguises being horrible is intentional.

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Or thats how I'm interpreting the text.

arctic dagger
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Oh, I took it entirely seriously

round perch
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Cause the text makes then seem a little silly and convinced their disguises work 100%.

azure crane
azure crane
runic umbra
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lööps

fickle thicket
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those new megas are a real fuckin mixed bag huh

trail bridge
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on one hand YEAH SOME OF THEM ARE SICK

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on the other hand...

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some of them are the physical manifestation of 😔

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like straight up 😔core

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like. I absolutely ||Love Mega Scolipede and Mega Froslass||

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but I have ||Zero care for mega Litleo||

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although ||Mega Staryu and Mega Falinx are very funny guys which I like||

blissful needle
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Some people are taking advantage of the teraleak to push their views harder

karmic imp
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Views?

blissful needle
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some racist stuff but there is also people talking about how Sugimori got Kojima'd apparently

round perch
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Huh?

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They were already making a lot of black characters by X and Y if that's what they mean.

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So like... idk, they need to get a life.

blissful needle
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Nah, the racist stuff is separate

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||Apparently Junichi Masuda and Ken sugimori had a falling out or something around the time gen 6 was developed, and by that point Masuda was no longer allowed to be the Director of Pokemon.
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fickle thicket
trail bridge
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||EXTRA EVERYTHING||

round perch
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||Knight on horse maybe?||

fickle thicket
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yeah I thought it looks kind of armor-ish but I just can't pin it down

timber vale
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I like mega falinks

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It's cute

runic umbra
round perch
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primal wadi
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who let mega starmie happen

soft isleBOT
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It's just a silly little guy 😌

arctic dagger
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Ok, people talk about the silly megas

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But lmao Mega Excadrill

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Mega Excadrill is SO much sillier than like, Mega Dragonite

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Mega Skarmory is also just a shiny but with big feet basically

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Mega Drampa SLAPS

timber vale
timber vale
primal wadi
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mega malamar being a brainstem is pretty clever

karmic imp
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karmic imp
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Not quite an ending
But funny

signal glen
runic umbra
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wait, is gender locked rivals something that bothers people?
I never thought about that.

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from what I remember gen 6 threw a bunch of them at you.

sudden spade
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I'm not a huge fan of them. It's not a dealbreaker but it is a bit annoying.

runic umbra
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I feel like they matter less and less in recent years

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rivals in general I mean

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which is a bit weird given how much of a driving force they were in the first two games

pliant violet
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I mean, did you play scarlet and violet

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hell even hop and hau in the gens before that

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scvi especially though, the three "rival" characters in that do a lot of lifting

runic umbra
runic umbra
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Your rival is mostly absent in Gen3 and a bit less relevant in 4, but from gen5 on the games tend to give you multiple rivals that do matter.

sudden spade
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I kinda want more vitriol in rivals.

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I don't mind nice rivals but I like Rivals you love to hate.

runic umbra
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I guess Gen8 had Bede

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I think that was his name

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the magenta coat guy

trail bridge
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bede was cool

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but i NEED more rivals that extrude dickishness

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like I want a rival who's a rich trainer architype

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who starts all snooty and haughty

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but as the game goes on, they're humbled a lot by the player (and the events of the game)

runic umbra
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funnily enough the first gen8 DLC had exactly that in Klara

trail bridge
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ohhh Klara

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right i forgot about her

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...maybe that's why dickish rivals aren't remembered

runic umbra
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eh, I liked her as a rival.

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added some friction

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I feel like her rivalness undercut a bit by her being all talk.

which iirc is a bit of an issue with Bede as well.

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I'm not even speaking strictly mechanically (although I wish rivals and gym leaders were a bit more of a challenge). Early rivals were manageable opponents but they were also always one step ahead of you when it came to badges and plot points.

pliant violet
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I don’t like the hater rivals, personally

runic umbra
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Understandable. they're also easy to mess up

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I do like when games give you rivals you love to hate tho

wispy yarrow
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Blue and Silver are my favorite rivals

sullen mesa
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i'd say kieran is a top tier rival now

runic umbra
trail bridge
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oh thats true yeah

pliant violet
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kieran is my little brother

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I have adopted him

karmic imp
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Enby rival who is obsessed with you and thinks it's just competitiveness (it's a crush)

karmic imp
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Legends za has anti homeless benches
XY had a questline about a homeless girl

blissful needle
fickle thicket
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I thought it was just designed to be kinda flashy

fickle thicket
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They got the fucking ||CRURRY what in the hell||

worldly plume
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thats an aspic

fickle thicket
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The fuckin ||CRASPIC||

vernal rapids
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It's very scary

azure crane
fickle thicket
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I keep forgetting that Ogerpon is female and not genderless like other legendaries

azure crane
fickle thicket
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Genderfluid hater who present opposite to you to maximise weird tension between you

near flower
runic umbra
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All I see is three soon to be soggy croissants and I weep

azure crane
arctic dagger
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God

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Mega Greninja Speed Tying Dragapult is so nasty

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That's such a nasty counter, although at least it takes your mega slot to do it

languid lichen
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i wonder what it'll get for its ability

primal wadi
primal wadi
fickle thicket
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||yeah but this is croissants with english (indian) curry aspic||

primal wadi
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0/10 game

karmic imp
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Saw jokes about lumiose being dystopian
Night in the backstreets: Every night in Lumiose, for a period of time, the poorers areas are swept by ravenous dark, poison and ghost types, elimimating most people out at this period

round perch
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He's just a Narga.

arctic dagger
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Something that I haven't seen people talk about much

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Mega Dragonite is actually a special leaning attacker

languid lichen
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yep

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loses 10 atk

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gains a bunch of spatk

arctic dagger
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45

languid lichen
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ends up 124 vs 145

arctic dagger
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134/100 pre-mega, 124/145 post

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~20 more in Def and SpDef so remains quite bulky

languid lichen
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+20 def, spdef, speed

arctic dagger
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Yeah

languid lichen
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er

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+20 def, speed

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+25 spdef

arctic dagger
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But regardless I think it's interesting

languid lichen
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i got tripped up by your 20 spdef lmao

arctic dagger
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Why I said ~20

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Instead of 20

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😄

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But it gets Hurricane and Draco Meteor for good stab, air slash maybe if you want something that hits more than Hurricane but usually I think you'd do Hurricane

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Tera Blast ofc

languid lichen
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i mean

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it gets so much more than tera blast

arctic dagger
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It gets thunder and Hurricane

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So I think running it in rain teams is kinda interesting

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Hydro Pump/Draco Meteor/Hurricane/Thunder

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Is pretty nasty moveset

languid lichen
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you'd probably be using things like ice beam, thunder, fire blast/flamethrower/heat wave, focus blast, etc.

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over tera blast

arctic dagger
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Yeah

languid lichen
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unless you're going like, tera steel

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but even then

arctic dagger
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It has a really good special movepool tho'

languid lichen
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idt you care about hitting fairies SE

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yeah

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gen 1 mon

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which means it gets all the cracked elementals

azure crane
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Doesn't it still get Extremespeed?

languid lichen
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yep

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that's physical, though

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's why regular dnite runs tera normal a lot

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free stab

azure crane
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True, but 124 Atk ESpeed still hurts even if you aren't specced for it. Take a chunk out of potential revenge killers.

languid lichen
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ehhhhh

azure crane
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Though I think at that point you don't run the mega.

languid lichen
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non-stab, 0 investment isn't enough to be worth it over coverage super often

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it would be a rare pick

sullen mesa
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wait we still have tera in ZA?

languid lichen
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no idea

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i don't have it

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i'm just talking about from the gen 9 dragonite perspective

sullen mesa
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oh

arctic dagger
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ZA does not have tera

sullen mesa
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okay we good

arctic dagger
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But yeah you probably don't run Extremespeed if you're planning on investing in special attack for the mega

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If you don't invest in special attack, you probably just don't run the mega.

azure crane
round perch
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Wait... can you just... change gender, lol?

signal glen
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No. Clothing isn't gender locked

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None of the customizations are.

manic kindle
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your gender choice largely affects, as far as i can tell, your chin shape / your hip shape and your pronouns, and then your rival

pliant violet
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I'm currently in awe of no retreat mega falinks

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what funky little guys

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highest cooldown for a move in za, fun fact

torpid pivot
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Oh Feraligatr you kind of got it rough didnt ya

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First your name can't fit and now this

karmic imp
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Reminded of the animal crossing comic
Where isabelle comments the mayor (with pink hair and a cute dress) changed a lot, holding a picture of her as a shy man in boring clothes
The mayor rips the picture in half and makes a new law: no talking about the past

karmic imp
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So the blog is gone
I found the comic on knowyourmeme, which marked it as sensitive content for some reason?

fickle thicket
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maybe because her thighs are about as thick as her head if memory serves

karmic imp
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Hm

soft isleBOT
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Poor Isabelle 😔

arctic dagger
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The pokemon teams that gen10 wants

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TIL Mega Starmie is a physical attacker???

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Wild

timber vale
signal glen
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It's a mixed attacker

arctic dagger
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It has 140 attack and 130 spatk

languid lichen
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it's mostly phys

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so, for reference

timber vale
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Does it have any physical coverage???

languid lichen
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that 140 atk is going to be 100

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in main

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because it's going to have huge power instead

arctic dagger
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The theory is that it has 100 atk, 130 spatk, and Pure Power

languid lichen
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based on the treatment of mega medicham and mawile, where they did the same thing

arctic dagger
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Because it gains too many stats and other pure power/huge power got 40 extra attack yeah

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Pure Power is WAY better than 40 atk so

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That's gonna be nuts

languid lichen
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yeah

timber vale
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If Mega Starmie becomes an OU staple i may stop playing Pokémon showdown altogether

azure crane
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Why is there Showdown for PLZA when there wasn't for PLA?

arctic dagger
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And it gets Aqua Jet, Liquidation, Headbutt, Flip Turn, Zen Headbutt, Self-Destruct

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In ZA

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For notable physical moves

timber vale
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Hrmmm

arctic dagger
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My bet is we'll see something like Aqua Jet, Liquidation, Zen Headbutt, Utility/Self-Destruct

timber vale
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No boltbeam type coverage but that is pretty solid

arctic dagger
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There's like zero chance it'll use Gyro Ball ofc

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And its coverage is like, fine

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It'll be interesting to see if pokemon actually need to hold mega stones going forward

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Would be an interesting tweak on it if they don't

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Seems likely they do tho;'

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And they just didn' tput them in for ZA?

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IDK

manic kindle
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Eager to see how Champions handles a lot of stuff

manic kindle
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as in they need to be in your inventory

languid lichen
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does ZA have held items?

arctic dagger
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Yes

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But the mega stones don't need to be held

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You can have like, choice scarf megas

signal glen
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Oh that's disgusting

arctic dagger
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The way mega-evolution works in ZA is you fill a meter every time you do... Almost anything, honestly

manic kindle
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It feels much nicer in the battle system.

arctic dagger
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And then you use it to use Plus Moves which do a bit more damage but also do some story relevant things, and also to Mega Evolution

manic kindle
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The ZA action-combat genuinely feels good to engage with, its been a delight

arctic dagger
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Which just drains the meter over time

manic kindle
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ive been likening Mega Evo in ZA to DBZ games with transformation meters using energy

arctic dagger
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I think that the ZA system massively nerfs the speed stat

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It's relevant but not nearly as good

manic kindle
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I'm okay with speed tiers taking a hit for the combat system

arctic dagger
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You basically can't just sweep people without them getting to respond, almost every pokemon will get at least one swing off for instance

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It pretty heavily incentivizes bulky slow pokemon IMO

manic kindle
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nah, faster pokemon getting better move cooldowns does matter imo

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esp in the 4-player royales online

arctic dagger
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I didn't say it doesn't matter. 😛

manic kindle
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this is just my early experience tho i could come around on it as i play more

arctic dagger
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But it's definitely easier to wall than it is to sweep IMO

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I haven't experienced the 4-player royales tho'

manic kindle
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Okay i'll be more specific: i don't think it incentivizes slow bulky pokemon, i think it makes it easier to have more back-and-forth and tug of war IN battles so you always have a shot

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and there are hitbox/speed benefits to running (smaller/faster) guys

arctic dagger
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I mean, I think having more tug of war incentivizes pokemon that both take a hit and give it back

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Compared to fast glass cannons

manic kindle
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i do think it makes priority moves much much worse, that i can for sure add in

arctic dagger
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Oh yeah for sure.

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Regarding hitboxes, I think it's just going to make moves that have consistent hitboxes better.

manic kindle
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with speed tho: you ARE right you cant sweep, but i do think speed becomes much more vital on... status/setup pokemon, since you have [less attacks] so you cant just cooldown faceroll your 4 attacks nonstop

arctic dagger
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True.

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But it's much more niche of a stat

manic kindle
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gunna keep an eye on bulky vs softer pokemon as i go up in ranks tho

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good thing to keep in mind and see if i see trends

arctic dagger
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Yarr.

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Like, Mega Beedrill for instance at least during the story just felt SAD

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Compared what it normally would feel like IMO

manic kindle
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speaking of story-mode pokemon that feel good: Bois is one of the funniest gifts pokemon has ever given

languid lichen
snow cobalt
sullen mesa
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(just tested it rn)

arctic dagger
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Oh my b, for some reason I thought you just needed it in your inventory

sullen mesa
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no biggie

round perch
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Is everyone playing on the switch 2?

arctic dagger
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My house has it on the switch 1

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It plays mostly fine

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TBH

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There are issues here and there but nothing like what Scar/Vi gets

round perch
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Hm.

arctic dagger
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I think it helps that there's like, nowhere near the amount of wide open spaces

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I suspect half the reason of the reason this is a city is for the same reasons many old games have a lot of fog

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They saw the problems the Switch had with things in Scarlet and Violet and went "Oh let's not have those problems again."

pliant violet
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Aiui switch 1 runs at 30fps vs 60fps for switch 2

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If that’s a thing you care about

snow cobalt
torpid pivot
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Amazing

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She's right

manic kindle
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nah be TRUE TO YOURSELF

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BLACEPHALON NUMERO UNO

arctic dagger
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I mean. Both probably.

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Be true to yourself but also consider going "it's for mechanical reasons that are pretty boring for most people, do you want to hear more?"

near flower
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i like blacephalon because it's a silly little guy :D
also really cool shiny

torpid pivot
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He only likes them for merit and function, transactional.. not believing in friendship

sudden spade
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Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people...

torpid pivot
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Cephy did seem like a bit of a hater in the anime though

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Maybe too alien to know other stuff doesnt like to explode

sullen mesa
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big goomy...

fickle thicket
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see the trick is to answer mimikyu and gengar on the first date and whip out buzzwole and blacephalon later

runic umbra
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I'm sorry but blacephalon is just another take on mr. mime

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they keep trying to make clowns happen

azure crane
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Mine is Dunsparce, because fat snek :) and also because Serene Grace paraflinching.

timber vale
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I like Blacephalon a lot

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I know nothing about Gen 7 OU I just know it has a rivalry with Xurkitree and I've decided that they're yuri

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And also that its design is the only good clown type pokemon

timber vale
pliant violet
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I think there’s no bad reason like a Pokémon tbh

karmic imp
exotic garden
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blacephalon is real as fuck

round perch
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Would you guys be okay with Pokémon having voice acting, but only if it was a made up language?

snow cobalt
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It'd be acceptable

jovial rampart
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I feel like certain scenes in recent games are scripted and animated with expressions that have have voice acting in mind but it was like they couldn't get it approved and it was left in as is which just makes it feel really awkward.

karmic imp
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One gym leader actually sang

round perch
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Yeah.

azure crane
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Splatoon does this.

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So they have experience.

mellow robin
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they should use the splatoon language 1:1 and never elaborate on the implications

arctic dagger
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Why is that a requirement lmao

mellow robin
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expands the expense significantly for localization I suppose?

round perch
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You only have to make one dub.

manic kindle
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it would fit with the funny implication that pokemon language is something else which is why reading "unown" is a magical skill / years of hard work

umbral hound
#

I mean, written language already works that way.

manic kindle
#

yeah

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but this is fantasy-to-real-world in the sense of

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WE the viewers know Unown are lil english letters

umbral hound
#

no I mean the pokemon written language is already a made up one if you look at any sign or billboard in the newer games.

manic kindle
#

yeah

round perch
#

Gravity Rush did this really well.

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It sounds a bit french.

sullen mesa
#

some babble like hylian/monster hunter does help also with not needing localization (VAs and localization costs $$$ which gamefreak specifically does not have, surprise)

blissful needle
#

||Solgaleo/necrozma/Lunala shaped ability ignoring move:||

timber vale
#

Mold breaker
Teravolt
Turboblaze

fickle thicket
mellow robin
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one of the abilities he put on is actually neutralizing gas

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to deal with those

signal glen
karmic imp
#

Oh emma is in ZA, nice

blissful needle
#

配達員として働く青年・ユウゴは、元気に仕事に励んでいた。
そんなユウゴのことを陰ながら見守る、相棒のサーナイト。
忙しく日々を過ごしていたユウゴはある日、サーナイトとの過去を夢に見る。
それはかつて、チャンピオンを目指して一緒に特訓に...

▶ Play video
round perch
manic kindle
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My trusted partner, Beed, MD

pliant violet
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I'm playing through having started this afternoon

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it's a good time

manic kindle
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i enjoy how much the game opens up once the tutorial ends

worldly plume
#

Is everyone hanging out in the city
I dont see screenshots of anywhere else

near flower
#

theres only the city in ZA

manic kindle
#

Yeah its entirely within Lumiose!:

karmic imp
#

You can get a fake ending by leaving

round perch
#

How diverse is the city btw?

worldly plume
#

Oh the entire pokemon game in one city huh

karmic imp
#

Fucked up city where wild animals go berserk

manic kindle
karmic imp
#

Truly, lumiose is ruthless

manic kindle
#

Its much nicer in reality / ignoring memes

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Games going for more of a "you have to be really responsible with how you integrate nature into cities" route

sullen mesa
round perch
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Hm.

soft isleBOT
#

Been having loads of fun with ZA :3

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We were hoping there would be a bit more visual distinction in the city, but it’s not getting in the way of our enjoyment, plus we like the new battling system. Too bad abilities don’t exist, because some Pokemon just aren’t great without them

azure crane
pliant violet
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I’ve also been fucking with ZA

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Much more than I did arceus

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I love being a menace in the night segments

arctic dagger
#

Yeah I'm still not sold on the combat system overall but it clearly had good ideas and it could go somewhere interesting

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It's perfectly acceptable for a side game though

soft isleBOT
#

Arceus I only didn’t get super into because of the framerate. If it got a 60fps Switch 2 patch there’s a very real chance it’d be a top 3 favorite game in the series for us

arctic dagger
#

I'm still amazed that we've dropped like an hour for the Pokemon Speedrun just based on lag

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For scarvi

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And swapped games because the reason we didn't use miraidon was purely because the extra particles caused too much last

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Lag

manic kindle
#

been doing a lot of neat speed experiments, you can shove off some hefty seconds off cooldowns

pliant violet
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I can’t wait for people to use the tornado dunk to get places they’re not meant to in the speedrun

manic kindle
#

the side quests have been so delightfully silly

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spewpaaaaa

pliant violet
#

There’s just not enough meat on them

azure crane
#

I don't understand why 30 fps is a dealbreaker.

manic kindle
karmic imp
#

Humans have plenty of meat

torpid pivot
#

I do like the combat system in Legends, but liiiike.. a not-small amount of Pokes kind of have a lot of identity involved in their Abilities

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it feels like it wouldn't be that much a stretch to include them somehow

arctic dagger
#

Yeah the lack of abilities is very sad

median stone
#

I imagine the next Legends game will include abilities, as long as they stick with this combat system.

manic kindle
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i cant speak for everyone but i have not missed abilities here

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or rather their exclusion hasnt affected any... teambuilding or strats and i havent noticed any particular pokemon being left out or improved

round perch
median stone
manic kindle
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But they're so sillyyyyy

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My gooby friends

median stone
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They could have been gooby and had good stats. pac

azure crane
#

I just looked at Mega Pyroar's stats, and wow, how unimaginative. +20 to everything.

languid lichen
#

that's rather unique

azure crane
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...really? So it is. I thought there was another one.

languid lichen
#

no others that i can think of!

arctic dagger
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It's very

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Normal

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Badum pssssh

timber vale
manic kindle
#

awh its not a waste

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the ultimate all-rounder is kinda fun to have in some ways

torpid pivot
soft isleBOT
#

It’s not very good at the all rounder thing unfortunately 😔

murdoc (he/him) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1160615504562638910 message) the ultimate all-rounder is kinda fun to have in some ways

manic kindle
#

im simple to please i think he looks goofy and that makes me happy

timber vale
#

it'd be nice if it were properly versatile, but it simply does not have that

arctic dagger
#

I mean the plus twenty in attack is clearly wasted but

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The stats aren't criminal

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It just has very unfortunate typing to be honest

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If it has a strong ability it'll still be fine

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But a normal/fire special attacker is just

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Not something that people usually want

manic kindle
#

i can only examine it within ZA itself and in there its just another fun goofy fire guy with a funny hyper beam

arctic dagger
#

Yeah I basically just expect it to have the same problems as normal version of the Pokemon but also taking mega resource

manic kindle
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and i get a big giggle watching its hair to floof

arctic dagger
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I think my favorite ability for it would be adaptability

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Fire normal isn't a particularly strong offense combination so I think it can have it without it being too much of a problem

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But it's still a very strong ability

sudden spade
#

To be fair, 'Anything/Normal' is hooking its entire offensive setup on whatever the 'anything' is. XD

manic kindle
#

hey now, STAB Return/X-Speed puts in da numbers

sudden spade
#

Imagine if normal had been super effective on fairy.

languid lichen
#

that loves having normal to deal with enemy normal and dark types

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course, fighting would obviously be better

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but it also enjoys the ghost immunity

azure crane
#

H Zoroark is the only Pokémon immune to both its types.

timber vale
#

Are there any type combos besides normal/ghost which this can happen with?

sudden spade
#

Ground/Electric with Levitate? 😛

umbral hound
#

if we're counting abilities there's tons of mono electric types with Lightning Rod or mono fire types with Flash Fire.

timber vale
#

I mean, fair, but I do specifically mean type combos. I want dual types here

sullen mesa
#

mega malamar is so funny

languid lichen
#

yeah, poor malamar...

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30 spatk is a fucking robbery

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the spdef is good, though

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you want to be able to survive a flamethrower or something

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if it got like, 20 atk 10 def instead of the spatk, it'd be in a much better spot

blissful needle
arctic dagger
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Not sure why

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I suspect they wanted the megas in general to be less powerful than they were previously maybe?

languid lichen
#

definitely feels like that, based on the constant trend of wasted stats

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in the new set

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but defense stats aren't really a waste

arctic dagger
#

The fact you can mega evolve multiple times is also

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A strong reason to keep them less insane

languid lichen
#

if it had been given 30 def and +5 atk

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taking 5 from the 15 speed

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and all 30 spatk

arctic dagger
#

Yeah that'd be pretty cool

languid lichen
#

it would have been in so much better of a spot imo

arctic dagger
#

Malamar being bulky AF would be a good thing for it tbh

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Since its often so much setup

languid lichen
#

yeah, its best singles set is already like

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resttalk

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so making that more viable in a higher tier would've been much better for it

round perch
umbral hound
#

tera is a form change not a crystal, despite looking like a crystal. And I would argue that Dynamax is in fact a crystal.

mellow robin
#

I don't think this is a good meme it's just playing on the fact that z-crystals and tera types both use crystals

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as a specific exception, I see the Legends Arceus move styles thing as essentialy a gimmick

azure crane
#

I wish we got the move styles in a new gen.

manic kindle
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Would have made for a very different battle system for sure; would need to adjust a number of things to make it work as well as the current one does

sudden spade
#

Move styles are interesting but I'll admit I found them a bit underwhelming/they didn't work great for all moves.

manic kindle
#

I don't mind leaving them in ancient hisui

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I think the mega power meter / plus moves works really nicely

torpid pivot
#

.. I do not remember Move Styles at all

manic kindle
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Agile/Strong from Legend Arceus

torpid pivot
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I beat Arceus! Still nothing

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So my vote is they weren't interesting or impactful enough

manic kindle
#

they could break the game wide open when used correctly, prettttty nasty stuff

sudden spade
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My issue was I felt like they fell hard into 'best option' quite often. You didn't generally use Normal, Fast and Strong.

manic kindle
#

Agile gave you better initiative/action speed in exchange for less power / less status effects, Strong slowed you down in initiative but packed a punch

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Yeah, there were always ways to set up "okay if i use agile i can attack 4 times in a row!" sort of silliness

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i did like that some evolutions were tied to it, that was neat

azure crane
timber vale
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my results

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my stats are uh

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kind of ass, huh...

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I like these results though, I think

azure crane
#

90/115/75 Defenses and Serene Grace? You could probably do work spreading status.

timber vale
#

I'd need to know my moveset, but I think it'd be neat to be a pokemon like amoongus or indeedee that functions as a strong support pokemon that helps a sweeper reach its maximum potential

arctic dagger
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Looks like i'm a defensive utility pokemon

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Makes sense

median stone
#

Type to stall physical attackers, I guess.

timber vale
#

water fairy physical wall... is actually pretty solid, I think!

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and you have something to clear status on switch

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with the right utility tools, I think you might make for a solid assault vest support wall? I'm not too well versed in teambuilding but I think that'd be something

arctic dagger
#

Assault Vest only lets you use attacks

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Not usually a utility pokemon

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Natural Cure + good defenses is a traditionally good wall tho'

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You're kinda a physically defensive Blissy instead of a SpDef focused

timber vale
#

like uh... I think hatterene with like, mystical fire, nuzzle, etc. with assault vest is a thing

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though generally I think walls also want recovery so yeah probably not assault vest now that I'm thinking about it

manic kindle
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"Utility pokemon that wants assault vest" sounds like a fun CreateAPokemon project

timber vale
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for singles, stuff like nuzzle, uhhhh

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mystical fire

arctic dagger
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Scald

timber vale
#

scald yeah

arctic dagger
#

Doubles has like, Icy Wind

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It's doable but you gotta be pretty specific

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Struggle Bug sees usage sometimes

manic kindle
#

yeah, and its the neat sort of thesis a lot of the CAP projects work from

arctic dagger
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Yeah

manic kindle
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hmmm!

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455 bst lmao that fits me

soft isleBOT
#

One of these is not like the others

Zombyla 🌇🔔 ↩️

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snow cobalt
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no two months option uwu

soft isleBOT
#

Tempermental
😔

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That said geez, that's a pretty interesting stat spread and ability lineup for a pokemon

manic kindle
#

:O rose-pokemon got hella defense lmao

sullen mesa
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i wonder if i'll get fairy too

azure crane
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(Source is wanderjegson on X.)

deft path
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lol??? lmao???

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the lower results were ice and fairy

timber vale
#

indeedee typing...

soft isleBOT
#

I did it too! :3

Rose (It/Its/She/Her) | The Labrynth Doll ↩️

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umbral hound
# soft isle I did it too! :3

oh that physical/special dichotomy is interesting. That stat spread + typing screams trick room sweeper, but Hospitality on top of that is interesting.

timber vale
#

ice is an incredible stab, and I think pairs rather nicely with fairy

umbral hound
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I think it does. Ground/Fairy is technically better, but in a way that I'm glad there's no pokemon of that type.

sullen mesa
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i am 4x weak to ice, which is true irl

timber vale
timber vale
# sullen mesa

huh... neat... I wonder if you could actually get use out of contrary with a stat spread like that

sullen mesa
#

my stats are so ass bro 💀

timber vale
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couldn't do like... draco meteor/leaf storm double stab

that'd be broken...

manic kindle
#

it'd be fine on 35 spatk

umbral hound
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Yeah I was going to say, any dragon type with Contrary is scary... but not with 35 SpAtk...

manic kindle
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its ok we just have to evolve!!

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we just have to find a trainer who loves and respects us!!

umbral hound
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No even if you evolve, you probably won't be specially biased.

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Though I guess I don't know for sure.

manic kindle
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we just have to evolve and be loved and show off our true power and anything is possible

sullen mesa
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i just need gamefreak to throw me a bone with a phys leafstorm or phys draco meteor

soft isleBOT
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This is what you get if you choose the bottom option on every choice

deft path
#

technician normal stab is also stupid

sullen mesa
#

holy defense stat

sullen mesa
manic kindle
sullen mesa
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i will dry out

umbral hound
#

I shared the quiz in another server and these are the first two results:

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Remarkably similar.

azure crane
karmic imp
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Got mono water or grass/fairy
The odd thing there is fairy secondary calls me extroverted

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Huh high defense

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Technician, hydration, contrary

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Gonna post screenshots later

timber vale
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hmmmm

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how strong of a dual typing is dragon/fairy

karmic imp
#

The results are funny
Used to be big on water starters, but got into fire later

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Well, I picked fennekin, but also grabbed squirtle later

languid lichen
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ice fairy poison steel

timber vale
#

the main issue I can think of immediately is probably getting walled by steel types if it lacks strong coverage

languid lichen
#

but dragon and fairy both have stellar resistance suites, and they don't overlap negatively with each other

timber vale
pliant violet
timber vale
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hmmmm

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guts on a fire type isn't so great

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but i could see it doing well on a normal/fighting mon with those sort of stats

pliant violet
#

bit slow unfortunately

timber vale
#

yeahhhhh

pliant violet
#

normal/fighting guts facade

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gg shake my hand

umbral hound
#

95 speed is in that awkward speed tier where it's too fast for trick room, but not fast enough outside of it.

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But yeah, guts on a physical normal type is always going to be something.

pliant violet
#

fighting and normal get decent priority moves at least

karmic imp
#

So, what do you all think?

umbral hound
# karmic imp So, what do you all think?

Hydration is honestly probably the best ability of those three for either typing. A mono-water wall with hydration is entirely solid, even with poor attacking stats; a grass/fairy wall with the same stats would be slightly worse due to its quad weakness, but still good.

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Alomomola energy, basically, and that somehow made it to OU.

timber vale
#

alomomola is mostly good for being a slow bulky regenerator pivot

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it also kind of has scald

karmic imp
#

Oh, good

#

Didn't expect to get a wall, but it makes sense

umbral hound
#

Yeah, and this would need to use recover instead of healing off of flip turn, but hydration is genuinely a really good ability in its own right. It's less flexible as a pivot than Alomomola, but also harder to force out.

karmic imp
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Well, for the grass/fairy typing
The wall-ness seems to mitigate the weaknesses

umbral hound
#

...it's more like the quad weakness mitigates the wall-ness. But it's not that bad of a typing!

#

four regular weaknesses and a quad weakness sucks, but five resists and an immunity is good.

karmic imp
#

Yeah, it's cool!

umbral hound
#

Grass/Fairy is, in my opinion, neither an especially good nor an especially bad type combo both offensively and defensively.

timber vale
#

the issue is being weak to fire is not great

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as fire is a strong stab type

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not that fire weak mons are bad, of course

mellow robin
#

I got, uh

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Slush rush kinda helps the speed issue? But my stats aren't doing much other than that

#

I guess delibird's typing is cool, I could see myself in lower tiers on a hail team as a brave bird sweeper

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but that base 45 defense is painful

umbral hound
#

Yeah, definitely a lower tier sweeper who's reliant on snow but otherwise probably OK.

arctic dagger
#

I think you just take the mono water type

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Instead of the split ice/flying

timber vale
#

Not enough reliable flying physical stab

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And also you don't want to be forced into heavy duty boots while also maybe wanting a choice band or something to supplement mediocre attack

arctic dagger
#

Invest in defense and be a water type slush rush for ice teams

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Part of ice teams problem is that nothing that isn't ice tends to benefit

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Although getting +50% defense is pretty good

#

Yeah, you just take the ice/flying

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Invest in Defense and Attack

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Probably

#

I think you might actually just take Thick Fat

#

Gives you ice resist and negates your fire weakness

#

Invest in defense and then the +50% from snow helps decently?

#

A rock type pokemon still going to eat you alive ofc...

#

Shrug

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I think it's a better plan than being the sweeper.

#

Ice has so many sweeper options

bright cargo
#

Ice/Flying with Thick Fat is nutty

arctic dagger
#

You're... 4x to rock, 2x to steel and electric, immune to ground, resist bug, grass, and ice

#

Honestly not the worst

maiden imp
#

is this good

arctic dagger
#

Flying grass is a bit of a rough typing since you're 4x weak to ice

bright cargo
#

Goddamn, great abilities

#

Hard to choose

arctic dagger
#

I think speed boost with a baton pass set

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Bulky baton pass utility

#

Your offense is rough so I think you skip Technician

#

I could see a meta-call for Lightning Rod tho'

bright cargo
#

Yeah, that all sounds about right to me

arctic dagger
#

But if Baton Pass isn't banned and you have access to it

#

A bulky baton pass with speed boost is like, good enough to be meta-defining as a concept

#

Not a great set of resists for it but you're bulky as hell generally

#

And just like, Tailwind/Leech Seed/PowderOfChoice is a pretty good set in a lot of formats

mellow robin
arctic dagger
#

Yeah, but "Solving the rock problem" is a pretty normal thing for a team to have to do somewhere

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😄

bright cargo
#

Tohu, what's my strat? Feels like a stall and swing with self-debuff moves

arctic dagger
#

Oh god you're Moody

#

You take the pure fairy type and Moody and you just RNG your way to victory

arctic dagger
#

Ice/Normal is unfortunately bad typing but

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It's hard to complain about pure fairy

bright cargo
#

Yeah, the dual type isn't really worth considering there

arctic dagger
#

Ice/Normal the only way I can see it being good is like, if you had Extremespeed/Ice Shard incredibly high attack stat or something

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Just a pure glass cannon

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Even then it runs into coverage issues

bright cargo
#

Quad fighting weakness is such a nightmare

timber vale
arctic dagger
#

Yeah

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Hope you have some kind of recovery move

#

Decently likely as a Fairy type

bright cargo
#

Moonlight is a pretty common enough move, and I think some get recover

arctic dagger
#

Reflect/Screen/Stored Power/Moonlight or something

timber vale
arctic dagger
#

Yeah

timber vale
#

But yeah sounds about right

arctic dagger
#

Cosmic Power/Stored Power/Recover/Moonblast maybe

#

Probably don';t get that perfect of a moveset so something like

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Protect/Moonlight/Moonblast/Utility

sudden spade
#

Some things good. Some things...not.

arctic dagger
#

Huh.

sudden spade
#

'Oh god please let me have a priority move'

arctic dagger
#

Well, fire/fairy mixed attacker is in theory a good concept.

bright cargo
#

Oooh, Technician and Moxie with Atk like that is nice

arctic dagger
#

Decent moves in both to be technician

sudden spade
#

The issue is those defences + that speed.

arctic dagger
#

But I fear you just die with those def and spdef

sudden spade
#

I'm Fire Rampardos ;-;

arctic dagger
#

Yeah

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Fire/Fairy Rampardos is a sick thing to be, to be fair. Like, you'll terrorize NU or ZU something fierce.

#

But it's really hard to see this seeing even UU play much

sudden spade
#

Game, give me a priority move for technician + that attack/sp attack 😛

bright cargo
#

If you get some sick setup from a passer, or Trick Room, it's sweeping time

arctic dagger
#

Ooo, Trick Room isn't a bad call.

#

Could be a nasty trick room sweeper

sudden spade
#

Don't ask me how Flower Veil fits in there. I'm shocked it's even an option for that type combo.

arctic dagger
#

Shrug

bright cargo
#

Kinda has 'burning incense' vibes

arctic dagger
#

But yeah, mixed attacking trick room sweeper sounds really nice

#

Fire/Fairy is really good stab combo

sudden spade
#

Yeah. It's good offensive typing with good offensive stats. It's mostly just That Speed that's an issue.

arctic dagger
#

Probably still not better than UU

#

Someone is gonna show up with Aqua Jet and ruin your day

#

XD

#

It's just a fairly common move

#

But getting to UU with a combined total of 120 in defenses and speed is honestly impressive

#

That giant hp stat lets it be surprisingly bulky with a little investment so people would have to gamble a little

#

You probably end up investing defense and then either attack, special attack, or spdef depending on strategy

#

Since basically all priority moves are physical

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There's vacuum wave but you resist it

bright cargo
#

What was your 'Mon, Tohu?

arctic dagger
#

And then thunderclap/water shuriken are signature moves so

arctic dagger
bright cargo
#

Damn. Ideal setup spread

arctic dagger
#

Psychic/grass has the big 4x bug weak problem so probably just taking Fairy

#

Just take Cloud Nine and screw weather teams and have good utility

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Would be my goal probably

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It's a bit boring but

#

Strategic utility vs weather teams is nice

bright cargo
#

They kinda just snowball unless you packed a handbrake, yeah

arctic dagger
#

Probably a lot better in doubles where you could see if the enemy is doing weather and bring me if they are or skip if they're not

#

Having a strong defensive utility pokemon that's also a safety valve vs a common strategy is like, a thing doubles likes a lot generally.

bright cargo
#

I never got into the doubles scene. Seems like a different world

arctic dagger
#

It's a lot faster

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Only 4 pokemon and 2 actions per turn means matches end really fast

bright cargo
#

That makes sense

arctic dagger
#

But yeah I'm a pokemon probably no one WANTS to bring but you're always grateful is thereif you need it XD

#

As where like, that crazy trick room offense thing Ikiryo is? Someone is gonna LOVE doing that.

sullen mesa
#

my friend rolled up a mono grass and dual grass/grass lmfao

bright cargo
#

They get one turn in the sun to annihilate someone with a solar beam and then...well, their ass is grass

sudden spade
#

Zoomy

umbral hound
#

115 HP is not trivial, but you're probably using solar power. ...unless you have spore. If you have spore, you're a different, much worse menace.

bright cargo
#

Oh I didn't even think about that. Yikes

umbral hound
#

I just have to assume no spore. Honestly even spamming sleep powder, which is more plausible, would be annoying but managable.

sudden spade
#

I might try this again but with a character of mine in mind rather than just 'me'

sudden spade
#

Tried it with my current RPG character and...no Aininur. Stop that. You're powergaming.

Entertainingly for someone who got Dragon and Fire, she's a Vampire character.

#

'Good news Aininur: You're Infernape with less stats and a better ability'

arctic dagger
#

Eh

#

Part of what is good about infernape is it's a strong mixed attacker

sudden spade
#

That's fair

#

I wonder how long it will take the game to eventually get a Ground/Fairy. As it's a disgusting type combo that is one of the few that hasn't had a showing yet.

#

...also: Man, I've been out of serious playing for too long, checking the pokemon that can't even make OU any more. I don't know when Salamance and Latios dropped to UU but man, I feel old now.

languid lichen
#

mence has been uu since ~gen 6, latios has hovered between ou and uu since about that long

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gone back and forth, depending

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the real fucking It's Joever moment

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is ttar and chomp in uu

sudden spade
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turns into dust

arctic dagger
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The paradox Pokemon kinda pushed anything that was high just because it had good stats out

languid lichen
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ttar, garchomp, greninja, pex, washtom

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it's the end of an era

arctic dagger
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Since they have really good stats and a strong ability

languid lichen
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salamence is in RUBL now

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as is mamoswine

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my poor child

languid lichen
arctic dagger
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Yeah

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Also just the qty and mix of types

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Means that if all you want is something that hits hard

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There's probably a type combo that does it for you

cerulean dune
# azure crane

I have no idea if these stats are usable. Monotype Water, or Water/Ice with high HP, and high Speed looks obnoxious to fight at the very least.

arctic dagger
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Potential really good doubles utility pokemon with Friend Guard

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But your odffense stats are so bad that you have to make up for it with utility

umbral hound
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Mono water would be stronger than water ice fo that stat spread. Otherwise, you'd just be friend guard + icy wind spam, probably. Maybe setting weather or something?

arctic dagger
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Really depends on moveset

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Too many possible ways to be a good utility pokemon

sudden spade
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Yeah. Technician with that sorta attack/sp attack doesn't really have too much it can go with and illuminate is...legally...an ability.

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So Friend Guard Support sorta ends up my thoughts.

umbral hound
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Also, good HP, but those defensive stats are very dubious.

azure crane
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I think Illuminate does something in battle now.

bright cargo
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Apparently it prevents accuracy from being lowered

umbral hound
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That is, in fact, technically something. That's all I can say about it.

arctic dagger
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If it ignored evasion too it might even be useful

bright cargo
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Seriously, why not add that on top? It's not like any of the 'Mons with Illuminate would upend the game

manic kindle
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Very funny potential development in ZA ranked shenanigans: Stunfisk might have a place in the meta because beam attacks tend to miss it

bright cargo
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Wait, hit-box shenanigans???

snow cobalt
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finally

manic kindle
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its easy to just Not See Him as you focus on looking at Mega Charizard and Mega Gyarados from your other two opponents and then suddenly Stunfisk is There, having gotten under all the flamethrowers, spamming discharge to deal with the best pokemon in ranked, Skarmory

bright cargo
languid lichen
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THE PROPHECY HAS COME TRUE

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R/STUNFISK REAL

soft isleBOT
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Greninjite acquired!

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The online mode is actually really fun, even if there's not a ton of depth

manic kindle
snow cobalt
arctic dagger
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So

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Like many

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I have not really paid much attention to Delibird

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But today I learned that two of its three abilities are sleep immunity

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Which is just

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So sad

torpid pivot
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Delibird is an earnest working poke, wants to courier, not dofighting.

snow cobalt
sullen mesa
soft isleBOT
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Today we learned you can encounter ||alpha eeveelutions in wild areas.|| possible postgame spoilers since we found this in a postgame area

manic kindle
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yup! its how im finishing my dex

karmic imp
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Retaliate does not seem good

manic kindle
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the move? Its very conditional

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you'll never see it for any pvp purposes

karmic imp
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Yeah

manic kindle
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Its nice for your early game normal type to have something with some oomph behind it early on, which fits with where you originally get it (2nd gym)

arctic dagger
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Yeah it's worth remembering a lot of Pokemon was initially designed as an adventure resource game first

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A lot of early design is supposed to be useful when you get it and replaced later

snow cobalt
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Retaliate was introduced gen 5

arctic dagger
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Yeah

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That was fifteen years ago

karmic imp
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Is ingrain good? Have it on my roselia

timber vale
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ingrain is... hrm

exotic garden
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Ingrain is okay on bulky pokemon

timber vale
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iirc it heals you a little bit each turn and keeps you from being phased out or switching

exotic garden
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Roselia... might be a stretch

timber vale
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I think best on bulky set-up sweepers

karmic imp
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Pokemon Y replay
Grinding a bit on the route from lumiose to laverre town
Had a funny moment where I thought a pokemon didn't see necessary to catch, then remembered I can "beat" trevor by having a fuller pokedex than him
Crushing Calem isn't enough, Trevor needs to be defeated too

karmic imp
manic kindle
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the big thing is that the answers will vary heavily because a [story playthrough] has a lot less difficulty and stakes

karmic imp
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Evolving inkay is a bit troublesome to evolve due to forgetting to flip 3ds at end of battles
I decided to just keep it flipped in fights when the exp bar is close to full
A bit harder to fight, but an interesting challenge
Also seeing the battle upside down is cool

karmic imp
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Ingrain is inconvenient, yeah

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Even if a story playthrough is easier, I like to learn a bit more antway

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I finally got malamar, abd decided to explore laverre town, while leaving the gym for later
There's a nice variety of weirdos in here, including a few hex maniacs
A kid gives me torment. And old man thinks short phrases are stories, his wife collects arbok shed skin to make things
An hex maniac gave me a gengarite and comments she has no friends to trade with
A dude likes small pokemon, and gives me a doll upon seeing my roselia
Another dude distributes effort ribbons to pokemon, which I forget what they are
An hex maniac can read badges to know which pokemon you beat a gym with

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Also the guy who says pokemon and humans were once the same, with a story of a froakie turning into a human

azure crane
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Effort ribbons are what you get when you fully EV train a Pokemon.

timber vale
worldly plume
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Here in my country, the food sellers dont give a fuck about copywright
We have dan from bakugan selling hotdogs and 2D from gorillaz selling spicy peanuts

And then we also have this

karmic imp
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Saw an incredibles themed food thing

worldly plume
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Super meals...

deft path
worldly plume
deft path
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you're Filipino yeah?

worldly plume
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yes

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we got that medievalising disconnected from the mainland colonization

deft path
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my spirit is telling me Mindanao but that's probably wrong

worldly plume
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its Mindanao yes

deft path
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nvm I'm the goat

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I've seen plenty of cafeteria Pikachu but nothing truly out there sadly

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ive seen axew once hit that the nichest it got

worldly plume
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whoaw axew
good taste on the food stall's part

deft path
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truly an

worldly plume
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amazing

deft path
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Intersting mix

languid lichen
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i saw a sealio at a doctor's office once

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like, art on the waiting room wall

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and in new york i saw a kebab dude with a grubbin plushie

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those are the only odd ones i can think of

near flower
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NoriZC (who also does character illustrations for Arknights) fanart for a mega porygon concept

languid lichen
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dorothycore...

runic umbra
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be not afraid

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Porygon evolutions feel like a bit of a letdown because the base form is perfect and also such a relic of its time.

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arguably even for its time a little retro

near flower
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i think theyre cute
pory2 being from gen 2 is such a nice little time capsule to me, when 3d modeling was evolving so quickly

runic umbra
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they're not bad

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but they lose the weirdness

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for me at least

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PorygonZ is cool but

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eh

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can't really explain my issue it without waggling my arms and saying "it's missing the thing"

near flower
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porygon is the first 3d model you make
pory2 is the 100th or so 3d model you make
poryZ is when you go too ham on the smoothing option in zbrush and fuck fuck fuck go back shit

languid lichen
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yeah i love that they're all different kinds of shitty and dinky

runic umbra
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I do like the fanart one for the y disk

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it's like
barely recognizable as a bird

arctic dagger
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Wait was it supposed to be a bird to begin with?

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Because I had no recognition of it as a bird art any point

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If anything it was like, a head on tank treads or something

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Huh, yeah, I can kind of see it.

timber vale
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I adore porygon

runic umbra
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I have a soft spot for pokemon with the "oh no" expression

near flower
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it isnt super obvious though

deft path
near flower
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i like this part on the x-variant

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a trace of the past self exists in the current self

deft path
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Porygon z is a malformed injection lmaooo

near flower
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oh i just noticed
porygon is shaded to look pretty matte
but pory2 is shiny and reflective
the base material in maya (current most popular industry 3d modeling software) is matte
and the fancier materials (phong, blin) are shiny and reflective

languid lichen
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regional decidueye silence...

near flower
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yeah i love those ones , especially sariagon

trail bridge
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hmm

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would the HORUS Balor be a Dark/Fire type?

arctic dagger
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Steel/Fire

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Nothing particularly Evil about its metaphysics I think

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There are mechs that probably deserve Dark type, but I don't think the Balor is one of them

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If you want to skip Steel, I'd say Water/Fire

languid lichen
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i would support fire/water, yeah

arctic dagger
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My thoughts on the Dark type for Lancer mechs would be to reserve it for the ones whose NHPs go uh

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A bit murder happy