I wanna try out Gravity sometime too for maybe a Sandstorm team
#POKÉMON CENTER
peak island
arctic dagger
It's gen4, like 80% of teams are sandstorm teams
Not as bad as gen3 but
Pretty close
Except Ubers where it's rain I think?
sudden spade
iirc, yeah. I'm not a huge ubers player but Gen IV Ubers has Palkia and Kyogre.
So, you know, rain good
lunar hinge
I was planning of having Inkay and Kirlia carry me through Shalour gym but Hawlucha might carry.
manic kindle
Hawlucha has the juice
cold rain
hawlucha is a chad
lunar hinge
I made this.
lunar hinge
My beautiful evil son.
snow cobalt
upside-down
lunar hinge
Also. Contrary is sooo good.
lunar hinge
Mega Charizard X fucks.
fickle thicket
Also. Contrary is sooo good.
14 year olds on /v/ be like
lunar hinge
Shush, the ai likes using status move, and its very funny to see them constantly buffing me.
fickle thicket
No it was a joke about how they make a sport out of being contrarian
I had one of those squids in my X playthrough, good fun
lunar hinge
Oh I see. I thought you might have meant that but wasn't 100.
lunar hinge
Well Charizard burnt the Coumarine gym to the ground, no great shock there.
Gibble, Trapinch or Golett for the next gym, hm...
pliant violet
gible
lunar hinge
Trapinch learns dig earlier and that's pretty good tho.
pliant violet
gible
lunar hinge
Fair enough, funny ground shark it is.
cold rain
golette is indeed a total bro
lunar hinge
Honestly the gym that will give the me most trouble will be the fairy one, since I only have one poison and two steel types, only one of which know any damaging steel moves.
Oh Lucario straight up only has steel claw, which I'm going to have to get relearned by the move relearner, who is after the fairy gym, damn.
I have the steelix you can trade for atleast.
And it has gyro ball.
Gible get
I gotta keep it from evolving until 31 so it can learn dig.
manic kindle
Little Guy time
karmic imp
Golurk line is cool
Ghost types fuck
lunar hinge
So does dragon.
worldly plume
red rampart
umbral hound
I still have a vivid mental image of a Crustle carrying either a serving platter, or an entire person, on its back.
actually, Crustle as a ride pokemon would've been neat. Not sure what it would have done, though.
...the wiki has a cursed image. This looks like something from Ben 10.
umbral hound
...uncrustleble
spring hedge
y'all have any mons you quite like and think are underrated?
trail bridge
y'all have any mons you quite like and think are underrated?
Scolipede
...is scolipede underrated?
azure crane
Dudunsparce.
It has Serene Grace, it gets Calm Mind and STAB Boomburst, a good movepool, and it's just cute.
soft isleBOT
gods, doing Unfair Stamp -> Budew is so rude
we stalled a Raging Bolt deck for like seven turns with that
azure crane
arctic dagger
I still have a vivid mental image of a Crustle carrying either a serving platter...
Now I'm imagining a big crustle and someone hollowed out the rock and maybe it into a house
cold rain
should be less fluffy and more like seal fur
dense stuff
like the kind russians make blankets and coats out of
eager vine
y'all have any mons you quite like and think are underrated?
armaldo and groudon methinks
there are probably better examples
but they're some of my faves
same with arctibax
mellow robin
armaldo is based
azure crane
lunar hinge
I'm tempted to torture myself and try to get a shiny alolan starter.
Like. I have never encountered a Shiny. Ever.
manic kindle
not too bad depending on your resources!
lunar hinge
I have an emulator can can just press restart no? Or do I need to soft reset.
lunar hinge
No, actual in game save.
manic kindle
ye itll work just fine
also depends if youre trying to get one as your actual starter, or youre using later egg methods
lunar hinge
Starter starter. Which is why I said torture.
manic kindle
oh yeah gotta find a nice tv show to put on LOL
lunar hinge
I'll be watching those feature length videos you posted.
manic kindle
which starter will you be going for?
lunar hinge
Litten
manic kindle
hell yeah
near flower
didnt they start shiny locking starters starting in gen 6?
lunar hinge
No, that started in gen 8, but shiny locks for the box legendaries and certain other pokemon started in gen 5
lunar hinge
Yeag.
near flower
it's extra work for no ones benefit
shiny hunters are sad that they cant get their silly beastie
and they still have to make the damn shiny sprite/model
it doesnt really devalue event distributions either, because the number of people willing to spend hours, days, months, ect to shiny hunt are less than 0.01% of the fanbase, and they arent going to go out giving away the thing they spent a good chunk of time on
foggy mango
Eh... the way I understand it, the time it takes to make a shiny is trivial compared to making the actual Pokémon itself.
It's also not for no one's benefit? If anything, it prevents people from stopping their playthrough dead in their tracks because "Oh gee, I have a 1/4096 chance of getting a shiny Legendary/starter."
lunar hinge
it's been 1/4096 since gen vi actually.
foggy mango
Sorry. Point still stands though
near flower
no one is forcing the person who decides they want to shiny hunt on their first file to shiny hunt. that is a personal decision that person makes for themselves.
no one thinks like that
manic kindle
whats yalls fave shiny
near flower
the average player doesnt give a shit
the only people who would stop to shiny hunt WANT to shiny hunt
no benefit
manic kindle
to get to a fun topic instead
near flower
feraligatr
manic kindle
the gator is good
near flower
the blue is really really good
manic kindle
for similar reasons, one of my fave is shiny spiritomb
near flower
blue is my favorite color gator is my favorite mon
the shiny blue for the spines is in my favorite shade of blue
i never stop winning
spiritomb's is also really good
the color combo is really tasty looking
like gummy candy
manic kindle
shiny steelix might be my all time fave
near flower
gold shinies are class
steelix has a nice brassyness to it compared to other gold shinies too
manic kindle
yeah thats the main thing i like, its a bit more... subdued
lunar hinge
whats yalls fave shiny
It might be super basic but Charizard.
near flower
char's got an undeniably cool shiny
pliant violet
I don’t know that I have a favourite shiny, I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about them
cold rain
Eh... the way I understand it, the time it takes to make a shiny is trivial com...
yeah to my knowledge it's just a palette swap with a canned effect on entry
which compared to all the other stuff you have to do to get a pokemon out the door is relatively trivial
now picking a good color palette for the shiny pokemon is maybe a bit trickier, but probably not that much more effort than getting a good base color palette onto the pokemon
plus in development you probably already have a decent shiny in your prototyping the pokemon's base color palette anyway
and the exceedingly low chances of finding one makes it a high-visibility status symbol and at the end of the day that's really what pokemon is about: showing your friends the cool and/or rare creatures you've found
arctic dagger
That really depends on the person
I legit never did anything but single player Pokemon until I was an adult
Like no trading or showing things off or anything
sudden spade
And the occasional rare time being shiny it has influence on competitive.
This could actually happen in very early generations.
In Gen II being shiny or not was based on DVs.
So a shiny pokemon was sub-optimal as it wouldn't have perfect DVs
manic kindle
and the exceedingly low chances of finding one makes it a high-visibility status...
Thats what Pokemon is for me for sure
I love the social elements
arctic dagger
Yah different stuff for different folks
I was always annoyed at trade evos since they might as well have said "nope you can't get these"
pliant violet
yeah I've always been a solo player
lunar hinge
The grind continues.
azure crane
azure crane
karmic imp
A better world
lunar hinge
I'll take a break from shiny grinding and resume my pokemon x run.
lunar hinge
Say hi to Joan, short for Joan of Shark.
manic kindle
hello joan
near flower
hello joan
lunar hinge
Glad to see y'all like her, sadly she is going into the box, as her job of steam rolling the electric gym is done.
obtuse ravine
rest well joan
azure crane
red rampart
@glacial ore
lunar hinge
So. My options for the fairy type gym are Roselia/Roserade, Steelix, or Skorupi. I have the first two and the laste one is on the next route.
pliant violet
Roserade
mellow robin
steelix gaming
lunar hinge
The Roselia is only level 14, I'll wait til level level 40 to evolve it I think, for toxic and petal dance.
Lysandre: The world is unclean, I will make it perfect, like me.
Sycamore: What a great guy Lysandre is. So full of passion!
lunar hinge
No comment.
red rampart
Look at the name
snow cobalt
No comment.
lol
manic kindle
No comment.
🎱
lunar hinge
I couldn't think of a better name and Homestuck is a brain poison that never leaves you.
manic kindle
this is true
fickle thicket
Are ye ready kids
pliant violet
for?
fickle thicket
Pokemon presents today
...I guess it might not be today depending on time zone
Pokemon presents in 5 and a half hours
trail bridge
SOON
fickle thicket
I can't wait for 20 minutes of updates about apps before they get to the real news
trail bridge
😔 yeahhh.
fickle thicket
Game Freak's top rank bootlicker preemptively licks boots, more at 9
near flower
inhaling dangerous levels of mega feraligatr copium (i know it's not gonna happen) (i really wish it would happen)
pliant violet
Game Freak's top rank bootlicker preemptively licks boots, more at 9
oi
fickle thicket
are you joe merrick
pliant violet
no, but I think it's a pointlessly hostile thing to say
spring hedge
my predictions:
- zygarde shows up again
- pokémon picross 2
- sprigatito is a starter in legends zaza, leading to a deluge of weed jokes
fickle thicket
i mean so is the post itself
dismissing criticism before the presentation has even happened is...
spring hedge
i don't read it as dismissal, just a "well, here we go again"
languid lichen
it's very dismissive lmao
spring hedge
more predictions:
- numerically analogizing from legends arceus, we see a regional form for the gen 8 pseudolegendary, i.e. dragapult
- az and/or his floette appear
mellow robin
I'll put a vote down for 'at least one new mega displayed'
fickle thicket
mega evolution is back?
as far as I'm aware not yet, but legends AZ is set in Kalos
not bringing megas back would be a... very deliberate choice
languid lichen
as far as I'm aware not yet, but legends AZ is set in Kalos
they teased the mega symbol
back in the first trailer
languid lichen
and it's Kalos, so that actually probably means something
fickle thicket
"mega evolution project is now under construction :^)"
languid lichen
could be, but people would be rightly pissed at the cop out
fickle thicket
I don't expect it
cold rain
I hope they at least import terastilizing, I actually like that one
fickle thicket
I don't expect that either
game freak has had a habit of chucking out their toys since gen 6-7
cerulean dune
ORAS made things funky, but also probably limiting to just 1 gimmick at a time.
fickle thicket
my dad works for pokemon he says they're going to announce that they're releasing the entire source code
karmic imp
Lysandre: The world is unclean, I will make it perfect, like me.
Sycamore: What ...
Lysandre who grips
honest cairn
ummmmm in the presentation ||fuckin official showdown??? is that what i just saw||
fickle thicket
I think so?
languid lichen
that would be kind of neat, but i much prefer just straight up showdown
not like an official one would allow for OMs
honest cairn
i hope they dont shut it down if theres an official phone switch crossover thing but both existing isnt bad if they make it look good like a coliseum title
pliant violet
holy shit?
languid lichen
IT'S REAL
pliant violet
this seems good
pliant violet
what did they do to AZ
pliant violet
seems like they're going even further into what legends did
arctic dagger
Ok not really interested in the market things I think but
languid lichen
no hints on new megas is a shame though
karmic imp
Some xy thing happening?
arctic dagger
ZA yeah
karmic imp
I love mega evolution
arctic dagger
The trailer
pliant violet
good direct
arctic dagger
Mega confirmed but no new mega teased outside the starters
languid lichen
Some xy thing happening?
legends ZA finally got its next trailer
arctic dagger
Which there's no way aren't getting one
pliant violet
trailer and bit of talk
languid lichen
i sure fucking hope they get em
honest cairn
still wish it looked better visually but i like the dodge, this shit is gonna evolve back into pokken in 10 years
languid lichen
but the gen 6s never did
fickle thicket
wow that ended suddenly
arctic dagger
So mega chikorita, totodile, and tepig
pliant violet
Which there's no way aren't getting one
the original kalos starters didn't
languid lichen
desperately, desperately hoping we get megas for kalosian starters
pliant violet
wow that ended suddenly
I was also thinking that
honest cairn
im okay with no new megas as long as charizard z doesnt exist
languid lichen
mega chesnaught and my life is yours
honest cairn
and i love the starters for this, some guys who get less love and deserve it
arctic dagger
There's no way Charizard Z isn't real either tbh
fickle thicket
im okay with no new megas as long as charizard z doesnt exist
my dad works for nintendo, he said that every pokemon can turn into mega charizard Z
karmic imp
Mega blastoise
fickle thicket
all of them
karmic imp
Please
karmic imp
Wait oh okay
honest cairn
mega blastoise with shellsmash tho might exist in a meta finally which...
pliant violet
I'm actually not a massive fan of the starters chosen but it's ok, I'm assuming we're gonna get regional final evos
fickle thicket
mega blastoise was like one of the primary marketed megas
karmic imp
Literally never saw people talk about it lmao
languid lichen
the gen 1 fart huffing gave the kantonian starters megas instead of like...anything else
karmic imp
True. No mega starters in XY
arctic dagger
Literally never saw people talk about it lmao
It's not very good
pliant violet
Literally never saw people talk about it lmao
it's one of two pokemon to get the ability mega pulse
a very cool ability
languid lichen
*mega launcher
honest cairn
need me megameganium
pliant violet
launcher right
fickle thicket
True. No mega starters in XY
yes mega starters in XY, you get a free kanto starter + mega stone
languid lichen
which boosts pulse moves
pliant violet
does pulse moves
languid lichen
it and clawitzer
pliant violet
yeah sorry
languid lichen
i'm a big clawitzer enjoyer
languid lichen
karmic imp
True. No mega starters in XY
Felt weird tbh
Greninja eventually got that ash transformation
pliant violet
it's an inspired design
languid lichen
kalos had some ballin designs
honest cairn
speaking of ace i think the new partner designating item they are releasing is super cool
karmic imp
Felt weird tbh
Greninja eventually got that ash transformation
Firefox gets no mega
pliant violet
kalos is the start of where I sorta think pokemon designs just never missed again
languid lichen
i think i hate the most number of gen 8 pokemon by volume
but otherwise i'm a big fan of gens 6, 7, and 9, yeah
pliant violet
the games quality is whatever but I think the designs since gen 6 have been overwhelmingly bangers
and the designs are a large part of why I play
pliant violet
it's a fuckin lil t-rex guy
languid lichen
trevenant also my beloved
honest cairn
i would agree largely as much as i wish for better for people who do i dont really play the actual games as much as i enjoy the designs
i think 5 is the start for me of that run tho, i love so many of the designs from it
pliant violet
also I felt the cityscape of lumiose worked really well?
honest cairn
especially as a bug enjoyer 5 is like the golden age
pliant violet
looked a lot less clunky than I was expecting
fickle thicket
I feel like legends ZA might take place in the future
karmic imp
I'm not big into psychic or fire, but Delphox fucks as a design
fickle thicket
the massive ear plumes never grew on me
languid lichen
especially as a bug enjoyer 5 is like the golden age
gen 5 bugs go hard
pliant violet
be weird if they did money, you're a human
pliant violet
Scolipede
honest cairn
galavantula
honest cairn
durant im also partial to
languid lichen
only ones i wasn't a fan of were shelmet and accelgor
honest cairn
generational run
languid lichen
and kinda karrablast
pliant violet
I agree on the bug types, I just don't enjoy much of gen v's other offerings
languid lichen
oh, and sewaddle i could take or leave
arctic dagger
also I felt the cityscape of lumiose worked really well?
Amusingly I had a thought while watching it which is you can't get rid of urban decay in the Pokemon universe because the poison types have it as natural habitats?
languid lichen
but leavanny and the whole venipede line as the basic-bugs fucking rule
honest cairn
oh araquanid ? was that 5 like him too
pliant violet
Amusingly I had a thought while watching it which is you can't get rid of urban ...
sewers
languid lichen
love me zorua
languid lichen
oh araquanid ? was that 5 like him too
no lmfao
pliant violet
oh araquanid ? was that 5 like him too
7
languid lichen
araquanid was 7
i adore sandile & krokorok
i would love to see a regional krookodile, though, because i'm not its biggest fan
the moles i love
maractus is cute
also peak fossils
pliant violet
gen v has sawk and throh
pliant violet
gen v has sawk and throh
this is an indictment
on everything pokemon has ever done
honest cairn
they're like muppets to me
languid lichen
oh! i loved sawsbuck's gimmick
pliant violet
I am a generational hater to sawk and throh
languid lichen
they're like muppets to me
they're straight up bert and ernie lmao
karmic imp
Amusingly I had a thought while watching it which is you can't get rid of urban ...
They can adapt, even help clean trash
And people can direct them to wherever they handle trash anyway, like the sewers mentioned here
karmic imp
Garbodor is a cute pokemon, by the way
pliant violet
they're straight up bert and ernie lmao
they're red and blue oni
languid lichen
cinccino
honest cairn
poor archeops they need to releas an apology to it and golisopod
languid lichen
they're red and blue oni
yes, but they're also bert and ernie
honest cairn
change their abilities
languid lichen
pawniard and bisharp
pliant violet
golisopod, my guy
karmic imp
It's funny. I like ghost and poison, but gengar line doesn't do much for me
foggy mango
Emergency Exit isn’t that bad…
pliant violet
it is that bad zen
languid lichen
also kyurem slaps
pliant violet
especially with no other ability option
languid lichen
cofagrigus
karmic imp
yes, but they're also bert and ernie
Make a pokemon based on the old men puppets who roast people. Ghost type, to reference the muppets Christmas
languid lichen
frillish and jellicent
honest cairn
Emergency Exit isn’t that bad…
they should change emergency exit to make u-turn priority after 50 percent health, it would be something
arctic dagger
It's funny. I like ghost and poison, but gengar line doesn't do much for me
Gengar line should be pure ghost after ghastly imo
languid lichen
Make a pokemon based on the old men puppets who roast people. Ghost type, to ref...
statler and waldorf
pliant violet
Make a pokemon based on the old men puppets who roast people. Ghost type, to ref...
statler and waldorf
karmic imp
cofagrigus
I'm sad that line is not in XY
arctic dagger
There's nothing about haunter and Gengar that says poison imo
languid lichen
god i love gen 5 mons
pliant violet
topple we're on some mind meld shit today
languid lichen
not as much as i adore gen 4 designs though
languid lichen
topple we're on some mind meld shit today
all up in ur psyche too
arctic dagger
I think we all love Pokemon designs or we wouldn't be here LMAO
karmic imp
OH! GOLETT AND GOLURK TOO
Golurk line is cute. Really feels like a gentle giant who carries you and your family
vernal rapids
I do sort of hope that for switch 2 they go for a different environmental art style for pokemon games but im not really counting on it
languid lichen
Golurk line is cute. Really feels like a gentle giant who carries you and your f...
golett & golurk getting klutz is very cute
they're big doofy guys
honest cairn
sigilyph, haxorus, scrafty, hydreigon, chandelure, just tton of bangers
arctic dagger
Golurk I kinda hope gets a third evo
karmic imp
Golurk helping reform your house
languid lichen
oh man i forgot hydreigon and sigilyph
honest cairn
golett & golurk getting klutz is very cute
i hope we get an official game where they turn into a cannon and fly with jets
vernal rapids
gen 5 is probably the one that has the highest volume of hits in it for me too, although its not like i have a least favourite
karmic imp
sigilyph, haxorus, scrafty, hydreigon, chandelure, just tton of bangers
Ah chandelure is cute too
Aegislash line is cool, but I got tired of grinding for the shield movie on my other playthrough
languid lichen
aegislash is gen 6, not 5
vernal rapids
id be more interested in seeing a regional feraligatr than a mega one but both would be fine
languid lichen
gen 5 is probably the one that has the highest volume of hits in it for me too, ...
my least favorite is 8 lmao
and then 1
pliant violet
id be more interested in seeing a regional feraligatr than a mega one but both w...
I'm assuming they'll get both
honest cairn
i think it would be cool if they gave these new starters dual typings finally
pliant violet
2 and 5 are my least favourites
languid lichen
mostly because of its disastrous consequences on Every Gen Since 6
languid lichen
i think it would be cool if they gave these new starters dual typings finally
i mean, they did in PLA
karmic imp
i hope we get an official game where they turn into a cannon and fly with jets
Fireworks cannons golurk evolution, meant fir an ancient forgotten festival
languid lichen
no reason they wouldn't in PLZA
fickle thicket
2 and 5 rank about the same for me, but with 2 that is because I find most designs kind of middling, and with 5 that is because I find most designs either 10/10 or 0/10
karmic imp
aegislash is gen 6, not 5
Oh I'm just talking about pokemon I like, specially ghosts
Chat is getting confusing thanks to speed
honest cairn
2 and 5 rank about the same for me, but with 2 that is because I find most desig...
this is how i feel i think as well
languid lichen
ah
karmic imp
Fireworks cannons golurk evolution, meant fir an ancient forgotten festival
Covered in paintinga
languid lichen
gen 4 is easily my favorite, although 5 and 9 aren't far behind
they just
don't have such a high volume of my favorites
vernal rapids
im interested in this game continuing to iterate on having a different combat system rather than being the second game with the same one as the previous game
karmic imp
I mostly know gen 6, but seems a good chunk I like came from 5
vernal rapids
(also interesting to me because, im kind of done with playing pokemon otherwise i just like looking at them 😅)
pliant violet
also idk if anyone else plays unite but the 500 point game mode is actually sick
much better than normal, faster paced
honest cairn
(also interesting to me because, im kind of done with playing pokemon otherwise ...
same, i dont really play beyond showdown but love seeing them
lone marsh
Did something happen here
vernal rapids
they were nice to me by making pokemon snap 2 but as theres a new console coming out soon i can start hoping for pokemon snap 3
lone marsh
^ completely out of the loop
pliant violet
Did something happen here
yeah, pokemon day pokemon direct
vernal rapids
(they were doubly nice to me by making pokemon snap 2 like 30% underwater by volume)
lone marsh
Oh shoot, cool
fickle thicket
they were nice to me by making pokemon snap 2 but as theres a new console coming...
hey dude why are you completely out of the loop
pliant violet
most hype thing is pokemon za got a second trailer and then them talking about some stuff
languid lichen
the entire turtwig line, riolu & lucario, the entire shinx line, gliscor, buneary & lopunny, skorupi & drapion, leafeon, the entire gible line, starly & staraptor, spiritomb, croagunk & toxicroak, buizel, the fossils, DEEDLY-DEEDLY-DEEDLY-WHOOOOP, mismagius, weavile, carnivine, giratina, cress & darkrai, froslass, empoleon
pliant violet
seems promising
vernal rapids
hey dude why are you completely out of the loop
❓
karmic imp
I need a pokemon trainer class who's just someone with strays/rescues from the city
Banette, garbodor, houndoom.
Each could have pokemon common in the area
fickle thicket
most hype thing is pokemon za got a second trailer and then them talking about s...
still can't get over the name pokemon za
honest cairn
thinking back, i think a new pokenn would be more popular if they didnt release it only on japan arcade machines for the first 5 months of its life but i feel they got burned
vernal rapids
theyre pointing at their own name i think :p
fickle thicket
yeah I know they were talking about themselves but the timing gave a humorous opportunity
lone marsh
Yes, I was referring to myself lol
karmic imp
I need a pokemon trainer class who's just someone with strays/rescues from the c...
Maybe they wanted to specialize but ended up with finding these strays
fickle thicket
anyway
pliant violet
thinking back, i think a new pokenn would be more popular if they didnt release ...
I think if they do take another foray into fighting games it'll be a platform fighter this time
fickle thicket
pokemon za
vernal rapids
seeing AZ like, bent double in order to fit in a normal sized house in that trailer was funny
languid lichen
bro is fucking lanktastic
pliant violet
though I would love a new pokken or pokemon platform fighter yes
pliant violet
seeing AZ like, bent double in order to fit in a normal sized house in that trai...
lurch
languid lichen
enormous dude
arctic dagger
The new battle system is maybe interesting
languid lichen
glad he's still canonically like 10 feet tall
fickle thicket
I wonder if we'll ever see a pokémon platform fighter
I feel like Nintendo might crack down on the idea
languid lichen
yeah it's called smash bros
honest cairn
i think like a pokemon 3 person tag fighter would be cool, like it feels like a team
arctic dagger
But I feel like at least from seeing it I'd rather it was more or less fluid
Like it still seems almost turn based
But it also seems not at all that in movement
It's odd
pliant violet
I don't think the footage we have is quite enough to judge on that regard but I think you might be right
arctic dagger
Ok now I want a Pokemon battle system that turns into a 3D fighter where you are the Pokemon any time you send one out
languid lichen
that would rule
pliant violet
Ok now I want a Pokemon battle system that turns into a 3D fighter where you are...
so pokken but with an actual story and structure more like a traditional pokemon game?
limber moss
Yeah just pokken tournament but you do stuff outside of the fighting parts
Pokken tournament was cool
pliant violet
yes, yes it was
and harada is down to make another one, apparently
but aiui it didn't sell super well
at least, for a pokemon branded thing
languid lichen
pain
pliant violet
it did a good job with alternate body plans
honest cairn
at least, for a pokemon branded thing
a good number of the reasons were their fault tho sadly
limber moss
I always fuck with non human based fighting games
languid lichen
ye
limber moss
Bloody roar
pliant violet
I'm holding out for a pokemon platform fighter though, not smash a dedicated one
I don't even think it's too unlikely
languid lichen
it would be actual peak if TPC reached out to the dude making Close Combat and just
bought it
honest cairn
a platform fighter with assists would be interesting
languid lichen
because CC rules
honest cairn
i love their nonstandard choices i respect it a ton
arctic dagger
so pokken but with an actual story and structure more like a traditional pokemon...
Yeah
You're the trainer outside of fights
pliant violet
CC does rule, though their strict adherence to fighting types only is both charming and a little frustrating
languid lichen
great tusk, kommo-o, breloom, mienshao, toxicroak, slither wing, CHESNAUGHT, fucking falinks
galarian zapdos
mega lopunny
the whole cast bangs
pliant violet
why are you surprised by falinks, we love falinks
honest cairn
FALINKS
pliant violet
the whole cast bangs
you left out tyrogue
languid lichen
falinks is incredibly nonstandard
languid lichen
you left out tyrogue
i missed a few of em
pliant violet
tyrogue is super interesting
languid lichen
tyrogue, bewear, blaziken, heracross, medicham, primeape, scrafty, poliwrath
was the list i missed
i just had to look em up
pliant violet
scrafty is a great implementation of an item fighter
like there's a lot of love in that project for both pokemon and fighting games, you can feel it
languid lichen
yeah it's phenomenal
full of flavor and super cool design choices
and having a fucking scraggy gank squad is beyond peak
languid lichen
huge fan of their interpretation of mienshao, too
as like...a smash swordie equivalent, almost
pliant violet
kung fu weasel
languid lichen
v much a reach fighter
pliant violet
I only messed around with scrafty falinks and tyrogue when I tried it
arctic dagger
Or lancelot
I wish they had things that weren't just Fighting type
But I get the meme on why they do
languid lichen
i adore it
i think it's an incredible flavor point to it
sticking to their guns and making it super unique
pliant violet
it's a stylistic commitment that I don't agree with but I do respect
limber moss
This is the first time I've heard of close combat, this is pretty cool
pliant violet
the art and music are massive selling points, even if you're not into playing fighting games
the animations and such just ooze style
limber moss
Yo there's a volcarona? Sheeeah
limber moss
I gotta play some strive again
arctic dagger
For people who missed the direct
pliant violet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_KNDtKJJ-8
https://youtu.be/3VH7kQgM4Mo?si=XzD0tCjBA2lJUUJI the trailer to go with it
foggy mango
Why would you do this to me GameFreak? Make me pick between Chikorita and Tepig. No offense to Totodile mind you, I just have a lot of nostalgia for both Meganium and Emboar
limber moss
Cyndaquill erasure (he did get his past Kanto form thing)
arctic dagger
Yeah he was in the last one lmao
Why Cyndaquil isn't in this one, they already have a regional
pliant violet
Cyndaquill erasure (he did get his past Kanto form thing)
past sinnoh
foggy mango
On top of that, Totodile is the only other water starter that is really in need of a glow-up, and even then Feraligatr never needed a glow-up quite as bad as either Meganium or Typhlosion
pliant violet
also all these nerds are single type the whole way through
so a regional evo or mega or both that gives them some sauce works for me
limber moss
Yeah sinnoh
arctic dagger
I don't want most of the megas back tbh, a lot of them can stay where they are
pliant violet
I saw mega kangaskhan was back and I like that
arctic dagger
Pokemon already top tier don't need more
If it's just MORE STATS
And not more interesting in a way like Kangaskan
That said....
Kangaskhan was oppressive AF and we saw that's back
So I don't think that's likely lmao
pliant violet
it got nerfed and was immediately much less oppressive
arctic dagger
Yes
foggy mango
I mean part of what made it oppressive was also Power-Up Punch iirc. Which is gone now.
pliant violet
they also lowered the parental bond damage
foggy mango
That too.
pliant violet
from 50% to 25% of initial move
arctic dagger
Kangaskan moves that will be kinda nuts with parental bond still: headbutt, sucker punch, rock slide, body slam, crunch?
Crush Claw kinda interesting
foggy mango
Crush Claw gang rise up
pliant violet
tbf, it's not like kangaskhan is good without it
arctic dagger
In gen9 you can still get Power Up Punch by transfering from gen6
So that's likely going to be true for the new game
foggy mango
Oh wait, is it not a permanently removed move?
arctic dagger
Oh wait no
THe UI is just bugging
It has gen9 as an option for "Transfer to" but it actually just slams you back into gen8
Since kangaskan isn't available in gen9 atm I think?
vernal rapids
im more lukewarm on megas than I think most people are, I feel like the systems they did later that eschew "making a new design for some pokemon" for being universally applicable are better
(of course they usually ignore that and add a couple of mega-equivalents anyway)
pliant violet
I don't like megas, especially because of the selection of pokemon that got megas
arctic dagger
Regionals are mostly better than megas, but I think megas like slowbro are interesting
pliant violet
I'm nearly 100% sold that teras are the best regional gimmick
vernal rapids
a lot of mega pokemon also just dont like... look good
like theres plenty that do but its a very mixed bag
pliant violet
a lot of mega pokemon also just dont like... look good
like theres plenty that d...
they take complete designs and overdo them yeah
mega garchomp comes to mind for me
vernal rapids
being overdesigned is kind of the point but it just means theyre generally a worse version of the previous form
pliant violet
and some things would work overdesigned in a way that a normal evo shouldn't be
like I wouldn't want a dodrio evo and a dodrio mega to be designed the same way
vernal rapids
being able to have roaring moon be a callback to mega salamence is pretty cute i suppose (although roaring moon also just looks better)
pliant violet
it looks naturalistic yeah
vernal rapids
i dont really like it very much either, especially the face, but it's an improvement :p
pliant violet
I'm hoping this game has some new non-legendary pokemon
beyond the 4-6 regionals I expect
near flower
did it happen? was it actually realium the whole time?
pliant violet
and the female genie
near flower
is totodile... one of the starters for ZA...?
arctic dagger
Yeah
pliant violet
but you're right otherwise, but I can dream ok
arctic dagger
Totodile, Chikorita, Tepig
pliant violet
is totodile... one of the starters for ZA...?
yup
arctic dagger
and the female genie
Yah but you specified non-legendary
near flower
arctic dagger
Also we got 12 regional lines for Hisui
I'd expect roughly the same for ZA
(3 of which are starters but)
pliant violet
I'm assuming both, or just new evos and the mega starters are the original kalos starters
shrewd finch
I feel like all three of these would have a bit of a need for a remix statwise.
Meganium, especially, is painful to use.
eager vine
hey pokemon general
pliant violet
hello
languid lichen
I feel like all three of these would have a bit of a need for a remix statwise.
i mean, their stats are all fine
meganium and emboar both suffer from lack of focus, meganium having low-80s in everything +20 to defenses
and emboar trading bad def/spdf/speed for having 100 spatk
near flower
waiter waiter more speed for my gator
languid lichen
but they're still usable stat-wise
meganium and feraligatr just suffer from being monotypes that aren't absurdly optimized
and emboar from being Kind Of Just Awkward in its focus
high hp reckless abuser, but no speed to abuse it with
and bulky fire/fighting, but without the fucknormous defensive statlines of modern mons
they all just need some New Gen Updates™️ and tightening of focus
shrewd finch
Fair, plus I have to say a lot of my antipathy towards the older two comes from frustrations with their GSC movesets 
round perch
Wait. Is ZA a direct sequel to X and Y?
languid lichen
Fair, plus I have to say a lot of my antipathy towards the older two comes from ...
oh yeah, meganium and to a lesser extent feraligatr also just need more moves
but gator has ddance + sheer force liquidation + a couple medium coverage moves
so it really just needs a second type and some juiced up sig like the others got
spring hedge
could be a more distant sequel? az and floette being reunited suggests it postdates xy, but those two are immortal so that doesn't give any indication as to timeframe
snow cobalt
here's how Zygarde can still win
pliant violet
it's definitely somewhere in the future from that game
languid lichen
yeah zydog is shown
pliant violet
or alternate timeline but there's mega stones so that seems unlikely
languid lichen
and AZ is with floette
so it's gotta be post-XY if it's in the standard mega-stone timeline
arctic dagger
Oh, btw, I got told this a bit ago
Can anyone verify if it's true?
"Btw fun fact: Dark type in Japanese is more accurately translated as Evil Type, but when they translated it to English, in the US they were already having problems with people being all WITCHRAFT AND DEMONS so they translated it as Dark instead"
pliant violet
I'm saying near future but not immediate, just due to how different the city is
pliant violet
"Btw fun fact: Dark type in Japanese is more accurately translated as Evil Type,...
the first part I can confirm
dark is indeed evil type in japanese
arctic dagger
Yeah I know that's true
But I'm not sure on the 2nd part
It seems believable but maybe impossible to prove?
One way or another?
snow cobalt
Bulbapedia sez
Dark type (Japanese: あくタイプ Evil type)
pliant violet
I don't know one way or the other but I don't think it's true? the vibes just don't seem right
and evil type in english doesn't really encompass what dark type is and does
obtuse ravine
no cyndaquil 😔 to be expected but i think i would enjoy exploring lumiose with my lil guy instead of hisui
it is what it is
languid lichen
it's literally the evil type but not practically
languid lichen
no cyndaquil 😔 to be expected but i think i would enjoy exploring lumiose with ...
i mean cyndaquil is a starter for the last legends game
languid lichen
it would have been probably the least reasonable thing ever to do the trio again
i'd be shocked if they weren't available, though
foggy mango
@glacial ore New Glaceon EX for the new TCGP booster coming tomorrow
languid lichen
considering the theorized timeframe and the fact that both of the other two gen 2s are starters here
soft isleBOT
oooooh very pretty
spring hedge
i wonder if it'll be far enough in the future for new kalosian forms of pokémon to have emerged
pliant violet
I'm assuming absolutely
that's part of the appeal right
might even not be kalosian forms
lumoisian
languid lichen
regional forms are the ideal, yeah
pliant violet
given the singular focus
languid lichen
and new megas for being in kalos
but hyperspecialized lumiose pokemon seems reasonable
with the PLA precedent
pliant violet
it even ties into the whole "being a city for people and pokemon" thing
pliant violet
regional form human
sampson oak in alola
languid lichen
based and true
pliant violet
I think the fact they didn't even mention clemont, given lumiose is his city and he's a big tech revolutionary guy implies to me a fair distance in time
and no very hot french professor, who also is based in lumiose
obtuse ravine
excited to go into cafes to beat people up again
arctic dagger
Hey can people poke pokemon that are related to sleeping at me? Got Hypno/Gengar/darkrai/Snorlax/Musharna/Komala already
obtuse ravine
although idk how they would do that with the new battle system, maybe they would have designated areas
languid lichen
Hey can people poke pokemon that are related to sleeping at me? Got Hypno/Genga...
slakoth/king
snow cobalt
Cresselia is the good dreams mon
pliant violet
jigglypuff
arctic dagger
Slakoth a good callout
obtuse ravine
or maybe you actually fight in the normal cafe and use the tables as cover, with how the combat system is now 👀
pliant violet
abra
languid lichen
slowpoke, if not its evos
snow cobalt
abra!
arctic dagger
Abra isn't as it evolves, right?
pliant violet
yeah only as abra
languid lichen
shiinotic
arctic dagger
Oh good idea to check things that have Slack Off
pliant violet
Arceus created the world in a dream iirc
arctic dagger
Is Shiinotic outside of having Spore?
arctic dagger
Huh I had no idea Infernape had Slack Off
pliant violet
shiinotic is a night light
arctic dagger
Ok fair
languid lichen
it's a night light will 'o' wisp
arctic dagger
I was thinking more like, metaphysically related to sleep?
But this def counts
This feels more like a poison type who puts you to sleep to me
languid lichen
that lulls people to sleep and devours their dreams
arctic dagger
And then eats you
languid lichen
i mean, it's on the very small list of mons that naturally learn dream eater
arctic dagger
OH I should absolutely check what has Dream Eater
True!
Gengar/Hypno/Galarian Articuno????/Ralts Line, Noctowl, Spiritomb, Darkrai, Musharna, Shiinpotic, Lunala
If you pull the 3 legendaries out it's only 7 lines
pliant violet
tbf when it came out it's typing did some heavy lifting there
pliant violet
isn't that better than arceus?
arctic dagger
Yeah, Spiritomb would be cool as a legendary
arctic dagger
It'd be good vibes
languid lichen
arceus has 120 in everything
pliant violet
ah
languid lichen
pixies have 100 in everything
pliant violet
slowed by the weight of its many sins
also its rock
languid lichen
pixies being the mewlike fairies
arctic dagger
Arceus is the highest BST of any non-mega/other special effect
languid lichen
but 108 in everything +35 speed wouldn't even crack 600 bst
fickle thicket
only 7 pokemon beat arceus for BST
pliant violet
Yeah, Spiritomb would be cool as a legendary
I consider it to be as such and reject anything saying otherwise
languid lichen
it'd be 575
fickle thicket
and none of those are base form
arctic dagger
Ultra Necrrozma, Primals, Mega Ray/Mewtwo, and Eternamax Eternatus
Are the only ones higher than base Arceus
languid lichen
crowned dogs also tied it, but they got nerfed with SV
and nothing else currently has 720 bst as such
arctic dagger
Zygarde right below it at 708, then megas until Kyurem and Diancie and Legendary Dogs and Terapagos at 700
pliant violet
if you gotta do a special story event to make a pokemon appear, it's a legend, like in SwSh spiritomb is an event in one of the dlc
arctic dagger
Kyurem does?
languid lichen
do the kyurems not have 690?
arctic dagger
Nope!
pliant violet
nice
arctic dagger
700
arctic dagger
Eternatus is the only pokemon at 6... Yeah
fickle thicket
shoutout to the sub-180 BST crew
languid lichen
ohhhh, that's what i was forgetting
arctic dagger
Then it's all megas and legendaries until 600
languid lichen
kyuw/b gain +10 to their targeted def
languid lichen
i just remembered the +40 on-stat -10 off-stat
fickle thicket
wishiwashi let's goooooo
pliant violet
I hope ZA has less of the obligatory catch 'em all collectathon stuff than PLA had
arctic dagger
I like to collect 'em all every 2-3 gens
fickle thicket
Oh, Slaking 670
yeah but slaking has truant so really you're looking at 335
arctic dagger
Nahhh
fickle thicket
per turn
languid lichen
that's not how truant works lmao
fickle thicket
that's how it works
arctic dagger
670 every 2 turns is mostly still better than 335
languid lichen
so much of its bst is in its bulk
fickle thicket
and honestly that off turn it's just sitting there and not safe
arctic dagger
Really you only lose the attack stat every other round
languid lichen
and also you can just switch it out
fickle thicket
oh right, the attack
half the turns you can't use either of them
so honestly you gotta completely subtract that for the off turns
arctic dagger
Lmao
fickle thicket
so you're looking at... what, 200?
arctic dagger
I mean it's 95
languid lichen
it's the least used 95 in the game
arctic dagger
If it wasn't on Slaking
fickle thicket
150?
arctic dagger
It'd be good
XD
Nah, I mean, it's more accurately a 510 pokemon even considering truant
fickle thicket
let's just be conservative and say 150
arctic dagger
Or so
languid lichen
oh, i just got annoyed at the bit and ignored
fickle thicket
which makes slaking with truant the lowest BST pokémon in the series
arctic dagger
It's basically just forcing you to pivot every 2 turns
fickle thicket
ngl kind crummy tbh
arctic dagger
Yeah
Money you've been really just. Hating on shit today a lot.
Might want to think about that.
pliant violet
folks
languid lichen
i mean, this one is an obvious shitpost
pliant violet
literally any other topic, now
arctic dagger
Oh wait I'm sorry, I confused you and someone else who was being grumpy earlier.
That's my b
fickle thicket
happens, no problem
fickle thicket
But just for sport I'll say something nice RIGHT NOW
arctic dagger
Wait no it was you, at least for me, Reggie called you out. Anyway Reggie said to end, nvm.
pliant violet
anyway, I hope I get to get a bunch of cool kalosian pokemon in ZA
obtuse ravine
just walking with lil buddy waddling behind me
fickle thicket
pokemon legends ZA marks the first time in 8 years that I find myself cautiously optimistic for an upcoming mainline pokemon
arctic dagger
Yes!
fickle thicket
I hope they keep an upward trend going
arctic dagger
I'm also excited
obtuse ravine
but 8
arctic dagger
😄
fickle thicket
https://tenor.com/view/3years-its-been-years-3000-gif-20850103
literally me
pliant violet
what pokemon do folks like from kalos
obtuse ravine
hmm
fickle thicket
sword line
obtuse ravine
TRUE
fickle thicket
cat line
languid lichen
the fossils obviously
pliant violet
aegislash is a very good call
fickle thicket
fossils yes
languid lichen
i mentioned trevenant earlier
obtuse ravine
i will be honest, i am really bad at knowing what pokemon originate from which region
i always fail the pokedoku on that
fickle thicket
the shrimps (all four of them)
fickle thicket
I'm personally drawn to ghost types and kalos's are very nice
obtuse ravine
diancie is cool
languid lichen
diancie is very pretty
obtuse ravine
mhm!
fickle thicket
and of course
languid lichen
love floette
fickle thicket
NO ES FAKE
ES FADA
fickle thicket
revealing sylveon before revealing fairy type was an amazing stunt
arctic dagger
I'd grab Delphox over Greninja but I like Talonflame more than it tbh
languid lichen
also very big espurr enjoyer
obtuse ravine
what's the rat and the bird for gen 6
languid lichen
espurr and meowstic
arctic dagger
Talonflame is one of my favorite fire types overall
Bird was Talonflame
Rat was Bunnelby
/Diggersby
arctic dagger
Vivillon was bug
fickle thicket
what's the rat and the bird for gen 6
bunnbely/diggersby fetchling/fletchinder/talonflame
obtuse ravine
tyty
arctic dagger
OH
pliant violet
Greninja is iconic and will definitely be in ZA
pliant violet
because it's like the second most popular pokemon ever
languid lichen
skiddo and gogoat are fun
i hath mentioned the goats
arctic dagger
Dragalge is probably my favorite gen6 pokemon
languid lichen
my baby sons
fickle thicket
REAL TRANSPORT IS HERE
arctic dagger
I think it was the first dragon/poison?
languid lichen
'twas
arctic dagger
OH DAMN I forgot Hawlucha was gen6
fickle thicket
'twas
spring hedge
i like trevenant, but who doesn't like trevenant? need to refresh memory of g6 mons
languid lichen
hoopa is peak
obtuse ravine
ebent,,,
arctic dagger
Diancie was a mythical yeah
obtuse ravine
oh
pliant violet
Dragalge unfortunately competes with Clawitzer and I love love the cannon shrimp
arctic dagger
Mythicals get screwed
obtuse ravine
the more you know!
arctic dagger
IMO
fickle thicket
mythical pokémon :3
languid lichen
goomy is also peak
obtuse ravine
:(
spring hedge
oh clawitzer also rules
arctic dagger
Mythical pokemon are often some of the coolest
languid lichen
yeah clawitzer slaps
arctic dagger
But because they're almost all event pokemon you get to use them in the actual games almost not at all
obtuse ravine
grahhhh
pliant violet
clawitzer is one of those simple logical designs
fickle thicket
goomy is also peak
goomy is cute but that entire line has been poisoned for me by one singular guy who shitposted /vp/ so hard that the mods made a word filter
arctic dagger
Clawitzer is cool!
spring hedge
oh also i like the honedge line. fuck yeah haunted sword(s)
pliant violet
you look at and go "oh yeah, that makes sense that works"
arctic dagger
Man gen6 slapped
fickle thicket
I said klefki!!
fickle thicket
gen 6 has a lot of nice mons
arctic dagger
Putting Revenant and Gourgeist next to each other was really weird tbh
pliant violet
I'm hoping that many of them will be in ZA
fickle thicket
but then there's also barabacle
languid lichen
too much prankster swagger twave wretched fuckery
pliant violet
Putting Revenant and Gourgeist next to each other was really weird tbh
especially since they weren't exclusives
arctic dagger
Oh yeah that's bizarre
fickle thicket
Were they a game version diff?
I don't think so
languid lichen
just a really weird duo
arctic dagger
If they were exclusives that'd make a lot more sense
spring hedge
oh i gotta shout malamar. real good design
pliant violet
they're also found in the same part of the game iirc
fickle thicket
back in X I caught a phantump
languid lichen
they're also found in the same part of the game iirc
yep!
pliant violet
over by the 8th gym
languid lichen
same forest area
manic kindle
clawitzer is one of those simple logical designs
the pistol shrimp pokemon have a special place in my heart due to some pokemon ttrpg shenanigans i got up to once
fickle thicket
named it mourningwood
a bit immature but I'm still proud of the wordplay
of course, trade evo
none of my friends had a phantump so I took to the GTS
got back a phantump which evolved into a trevenant
named
ED
now I've got this fuckin tree named Ed sitting in a box
ed...
ed..............................
manic kindle
I have fond memories of all my little trade evo boys
pliant violet
I wonder if ZA will do the thing XY did and give you a second starter
fickle thicket
I hope not
languid lichen
I wonder if ZA will do the thing XY did and give you a second starter
second starter but you just choose between three charmanders
pliant violet
hot damn
fickle thicket
um ackschually 🤓 ☝️ the plural of charmander is charmander
pliant violet
unfortunately since I'm probably going toto (unless final evos really wow me) I would go charmander
manic kindle
big fan of how stylish they get to be
languid lichen
oh yeah the drip is great
fickle thicket
didn't arceus have it?
manic kindle
im happy i get more pokemon concierge :)
fickle thicket
and kalos introduced it
pliant violet
im happy i get more pokemon concierge :)
500 point mode in pokemon unite is pretty good, having tried it
fickle thicket
im happy i get more pokemon concierge :)
yeah me too
thought I wonder if february isn't a bit early to announce september episodes
arctic dagger
I like second starters personally
manic kindle
The entire presents left me very happy as per usual
manic kindle
I love being a pokemon fan