#POKÉMON CENTER

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wispy yarrow
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Like, a server like Pilot NET makes more sense for discussing trans stuff more openly but in a small fangame server it's like

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there are a million other venues idk

languid lichen
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yeah it's just the handling that i'm iffy on, but i'm coming in like

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trying to figure out what the fuck is going on

pliant violet
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Seems like I won’t have to drop the game at least

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Which is good

languid lichen
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hopefully

pliant violet
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Thanks topple

wispy yarrow
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good work, soldier

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we'll advance the gay agenda in no time

languid lichen
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like, these snapshots of what's happening are "i don't know what the fuck is going on, but i feel like this should be discussed in a more private space rather than in a disaster zone general chat"

languid lichen
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the more i look, the more it seems like the shitheads are being weeded out and the Weird Mod Vibes are just fatigue

pliant violet
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Ah lovely

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I’m at work and plotting my next run when I get home

languid lichen
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i too want to be able to ethically play and talk about cool pokemon fan projects

pliant violet
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Ok topple what’s your number one starter pick in your arsenal

languid lichen
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mowtom's been the fucking goat so far

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kinda rough scaling in the endgame, stops being able to tap everything it needs to, but that'll probably fix itself once i've got the 25 candies for hadron engine

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an electric that decisively beats grounds is super nice

pliant violet
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Yeah very understandable

languid lichen
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before i got sadcowboy about sprigatito not getting good IVs, it was giving me a lot of success too

pliant violet
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So if you get rotom it’s only the forms you’ve gotten or all of them?

languid lichen
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very consistent midgame because flower trick is fucking bonkers

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only the forms you've seen, yeah

languid lichen
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i only have access to mowtom, not standard or any of the other appliances

pliant violet
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Beat me to it

languid lichen
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froakie was on-off, but most of my success with it was after getting battle bond

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which i don't think is available from go?

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and it was super inconsistent, needing either wide lenses for hydro pump or ice beam/blizzard TMs

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it'll be another thing that goes fucking insane with investment, because it gets surging strikes and adaptability

pliant violet
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God I wish I could get battle bond

languid lichen
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i think for "achievable early mons" you really want to hit the dojo and pick up a pancham, because it gets strong double STAB in learnset

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and, importantly, it starts with a fighting move (and gets another one quickly) that isn't low kick

pliant violet
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I hate pancham for redundancy

languid lichen
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i think its phys statline and early-game (and excellent abilities) make up for that, as long as you're running a fairy or poison

pliant violet
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I don’t want to have to run another dark type to evolve it, I want it to be my dark type

languid lichen
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because a lot of the darks just don't get great double stab in learnset

pliant violet
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This is a rant carried over from actual games

languid lichen
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i would say croagunk is insane but it requires EMs or TM luck

pliant violet
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I do have a pancham from eggs though

languid lichen
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because that fuck gets zero fighting moves in learnset other than low kick

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and while low kick is fantastic in like

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ubers

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in-game the mon weight variance is too much

pliant violet
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It loses consistency

languid lichen
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but toxicroak is insane if you can find drain punch or CC

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(assuming you're not running stacked setup sweepers)

pliant violet
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That’s part of my issue with infernape

languid lichen
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just because it fucks around with an excellent defensive typeline

pliant violet
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I don’t wanna learn close combat

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So without it it has crappy fighting learnset

languid lichen
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yeah frog gets thunderous kick in EMs

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and dire claw, but that's not as important bc it naturally gets pjab

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i think a fighting is just way too important early

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having A Usable Fighting Move

pliant violet
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A fighting and some sort of flying coverage

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Clears until like rival 2

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With no sweat

languid lichen
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yeah

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i also have The Strongest (Gallade) Ralts lmao

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but i just don't think gallade is good here versus gardevoir

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it gets vdance and bitter blade, but it takes so long to get going, and i think it's easier to slot another good fighting on your team than another fairy

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vs special ralts that gets real STAB moves on both ends pretty fast and ends up being a fairy that kills poisons

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imo that's the most important part of role compression in this - being an "x type" that beats one of its broad type counters

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and then you just separately have a setup sweeper or two that kill everything with broad 2-3 move coverage

pliant violet
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Yeah hell with the way set up works in this you don’t even need a tonne of coverage

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You just setup hard for wild fights

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And steamroll

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Then the team is for trainer bosses

languid lichen
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oh yeah, wilds i don't think are even a consideration

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(unless you're trying to catch them late-game lmao)

languid lichen
languid lichen
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ooh, random farming run hit a new rotom

pliant violet
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The best rotom

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Don’t @ me

wispy yarrow
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@pliant violet

pliant violet
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There’s always one

arctic dagger
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I mean

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Wash is in fact best rotom

wispy yarrow
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I am a certified rotom hater

languid lichen
arctic dagger
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Consider though

languid lichen
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no, oven cool

arctic dagger
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How many times do you think you can miss will o wisp

languid lichen
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24

arctic dagger
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Damn people usually kill me before I can miss that many times

languid lichen
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stall matchups in AAA get weird

azure crane
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Heat Rotom is great defensively.

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Unfortunately, Overheat is a move I don't like very much.

arctic dagger
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I don't mind it since it also has volt switch

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It makes a good pivot

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I used heat a decent amount in my Reborn playthrough

pliant violet
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got a shiny tympole

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cut price mudkip perhaps

manic kindle
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tl;dr the game got big and they dont want to make it the focal point of their future, want to do other things

snow cobalt
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that's fair

arctic dagger
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Yeah someone posted this earlier

arctic dagger
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Got too gamble-y and addictive

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Which like

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...Don't make a game with so much RNG and grinding if you don't want that?

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IDK people have made pokemon games that skip all the IV and natures nonsense pokerogue has

south laurel
obtuse ravine
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☺️

manic kindle
arctic dagger
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I agree

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I completed the game once and then stopped

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Because the grinding got boring to me

south laurel
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I think the best roguelites have less grind and more ability to say, “I will do this interesting thing this run”

obtuse ravine
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yeeee

south laurel
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And have maybe 40%-60% odds of being able to do it successfully

obtuse ravine
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and when something gets going you get a Very Devious smile on your face

south laurel
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But if the runs are longer the chance should be higher

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Thought: what if instead of chunking a set percentage of HP, Stealth Rock damage was reduced by defensive stats

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(And increased by offense? I dunno)

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(This is a very vague idea and would probably need actual working math)

red rampart
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Oh yeah I should probably finish up indigo disk

obtuse ravine
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what is the indigo disk

red rampart
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Second half of the SV dlc

obtuse ravine
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i see

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is it a location or a physical item or something

red rampart
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Physical item that leads you to the location where you fight terapagos

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Though it only comes up in like the last third of the dlc

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Well Kieran is like halfway back to normal so that's nice

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Yay stellar tera shards, which are useful for like one pokemon ever

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Shame the game doesn't let you catch any of the naturally tera stellar pokemon in this section

arctic dagger
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Uhh... Superior I know

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Were you thinking of someone else?

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Oh I saw a Stellar Excadrill once I think

red rampart
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I mean the ones that need to be defeated for story progression

arctic dagger
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I was talking about pokemon stellar tera shards are useful for

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Those are the ones you use to change pokemon tera types to stellar right?

red rampart
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Yeh

arctic dagger
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Yeh

red rampart
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I was thinking of chien pao, it is literally the only pokemon I've seen that actually runs tera stellar in comp vgc

arctic dagger
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Oh yeah I have no idea about vgc

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But Superior is the singles powerhouse for Stellar

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Sees OU play

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Because Contrary + Stellar Tera Blast actually increases your atk/spa

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XD

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So it can Leaf Storm vs anything that grass can deal with and tera type to do usually neutral damage but hella boosted vs anything grass can't

red rampart
obtuse ravine
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tree..

red rampart
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Creature…

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How has Briar gone through all of this without noticing any of the drama

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Kieran: is obsessed with strength and absurdly jealous of the protagonist to the point of using a master ball to catch terapagos because it seemingly liked the protag
Briar: wow a master ball, you came well prepared for this expedition!

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This gal just has a one track mind huh

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Ooh terapagos has a boss healthbar 👀

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Terapagos is adorable 🥺

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...it just broke a master ball sweating

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Oh hey this is basically a tera raid except it starts with its shield up, neat

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Well that was a cool boss fight

red rampart
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Miraidon will be able to fly now!
Oh sick

red rampart
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And why does all of their dialogue make me want to punt them off a cliff

red rampart
pliant violet
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drip

languid lichen
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25 big nuggets

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jesus fucking christ

red rampart
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...I just realized I still haven't done the academy tournament thing
Or rechallenged any of the gym leaders

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I think I was supposed to do that about twenty levels ago

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Oh hey there's apparently an item that can give something its hidden ability, neat

manic kindle
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The tourney is fun and good for levels when youre bored of chansey

red rampart
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I think what I'll do it get a team that's roughly on level with the gym leaders (which given I can farm tera raids for exp candies shouldn't take too long) and then just use my normal team for the ace tournament since it scales after you've caught terapagos

languid lichen
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god i hope Legends gives us new megas

near flower
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food... water.... mega feraligatr........

arctic dagger
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I mean they showed the mega symbol in the trailer

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So it seems really unlikely they don't

languid lichen
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i'm keeping my hopes up and expectations in the fucking abyss

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i mostly want megas for more starters and then like

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gen 5 mons

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i can't imagine that if they do more mevos they skip on the gen 6s, but i want to see the gen 4 trio too

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and like, liepard

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really want to see a mega liepard and golurk

umbral hound
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does anyone have a clear image of the mega symbol, ideally transparent? I want to show off something neat with it.

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Also, I appreciate greatly how Lacey gushes about cute pokemon, by which she means every pokemon.

languid lichen
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take your pick of those

near flower
umbral hound
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Thank you. That's tricky to work with, but... you know that signature shape in the middle? imagine flipping it 180 degrees horizontally and stacking it on top of that. Uhhh gimme a second to see if I can do something Clever (I probably can't).

near flower
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it looks like DNA helix right?

languid lichen
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if this is what you wanted to work with

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missing the proper gradient, but eh

umbral hound
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Yeah, I managed to cludge together (a messier version of) that using GIMP but thank you for finding/creating that.

languid lichen
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just digging around a bit

umbral hound
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Now! Time to see if I can complete a Basic Task.

pliant violet
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it's just a helix yeah

umbral hound
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yeah you stack a bunch of them together and it's DNA complete with the "rungs".

pliant violet
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good news pocket monsters evolve

umbral hound
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but my attempt to demonstrate that graphically is not cool.

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I kind of technically succeeded I guess?

snow cobalt
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technical success!!!!

red rampart
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Why did the indigo disk introduce so many trade evos sweating

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Like you can technically get all of them through 5/6 star tera raids, but that is entirely dependent on those specific raids spawning

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I just want to get a porygon 2 without having to pay for nintendo switch online, is that too much to ask sadplush

obtuse ravine
red rampart
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(On an entirely unrelated note, I love your frequent use of madeleine emotes danny)

obtuse ravine
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aww ty maddyhug

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she's the closest i have to a Literally Me character because she's very human :)) i think her story was really easy for me to relate to or emphathize with

also she's a cute little silly goober

eager vine
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clord member spotted

obtuse ravine
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hello hello

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but yems I'm happy to hear you like the emotes rose

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they're very expressive

eager vine
obtuse ravine
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known107

languid lichen
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huh, the champion isn't consistent with the e4?

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alola e4 to geeta

pliant violet
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Yep can be any of the champs

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Of the two times I’ve fought champs it’s been hop and diantha both with the kalos elite four

languid lichen
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damn, mray is fucking me

pliant violet
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Yeah it’ll do that

languid lichen
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hm

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wish my poor weed cat had triple axel

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desperately wish i had its EMs

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it did eat three mray bars with PR though

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and my fucking floaty fall crobat has been a flinch machine this entire run

pliant violet
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Ooh

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I have a swords dance zubat as an option

languid lichen
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same

pliant violet
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I haven’t been able to have any success today at all tbh

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Many runs dying early

languid lichen
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rip

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washtom outsped

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thank you based timid mint

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that i got at like 120

pliant violet
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Have you taken out the rest of the team?

languid lichen
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yeah, that was the last mon

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washtom took fucking lives

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solo'd 3/4 of the alola e4, one-shot blaziken through protection, killed her bird, another mon, baited her goodra into a fighting, and outsped mray to kill

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time to figure out how the fuck to do final boss

pliant violet
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Do you have a good psychic or ground type

languid lichen
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no lol

pliant violet
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Best of luck

languid lichen
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if i had a reviver seed left (weed cat used it to take out an mray bar) i could put it on turtonator

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to try and shell smash my way to a kill

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but uhhh

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man, wish i'd picked up a steel somewhere

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maybe a tinkaton

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unfortunately this liepard i caught on the run has been dead weight other than +1 luck

pliant violet
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Tink would be great

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Just outright immune to both final bosses stabs

languid lichen
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yeah, does it have a fire move?

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or does it just run full stab

pliant violet
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Not a clue

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I don’t remember seeing a fire move

languid lichen
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ayy, i also lucked out and found the one paradox i'd hatched an egg for

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so my run's unused master ball went there

pliant violet
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So you got past this time

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I’m pretty sure you only get one or the other

languid lichen
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nah

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i saw an iron valiant too

pliant violet
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Oh interesting

languid lichen
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list i saw was iron valiant, great tusk, slither wing, iron hands

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and uhhh

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don't actually remember the others

pliant violet
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Good variety

languid lichen
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oh right

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flutter mane

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which i was reminded of because 199 is another flutter mane

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wow, what a fucking asshole

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stupid bastard game

pliant violet
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Oh btw you can’t even throw a ball at the final boss

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So if you had a second master ball no dice

languid lichen
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yeah, whole area bars balls

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unless you've already caught one of the paradoxes

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in which case that one's unlocked

pliant violet
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Oh I didn’t know that

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Thanks for the info

languid lichen
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and then you have to catch everything else in the game to unlock the final boss

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goat bird

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got it's so fucking ugly

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bb -> live the hit + poison -> bb

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might actually be able to do it

pliant violet
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The second phase is the easier part

languid lichen
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oh wait, you only need to do three bars to get to p2?

pliant violet
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Ye

languid lichen
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lmao it doesn't even oneshot this stupid dog

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okay it does have flamethrower

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||cross poison/dmax cannon/sludge bomb/flamethrower||

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still doesn't ohko meowscarada though

pliant violet
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Thats not a tonne of coverage hmm

languid lichen
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shoutouts to the dennis theme

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Mister Rogers in a bloodstained fucking sweater.

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oh wow, that's a lot of egg vouchers

pliant violet
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Good job

languid lichen
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and a manaphy egg out of em, nice

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the haul

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and hadron engine on rotom get

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maybe this is a herald of good times, and you'll hit a win too

pliant violet
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Lotta fuckin eggs

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Gonna be fun when they all hatch in a row

languid lichen
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yeah, i got the four from the E4, one from a rogue ball, a couple from gym leaders i forgot to pop, and then apparently you get one for every new ribbon (read: beating classic with a given mon for the first time)

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and then the geeta ticket and the beat-the-game ticket

south laurel
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So apparently there's some weird transphobia drama about Pokerogue's devs that extends into certain game mechanics (making some split evos gendered, adding gender to genderless mons like the magneton line, that kind of stuff). Just thought I'd give people a heads-up.

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In better news

pliant violet
south laurel
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Oh okay

pliant violet
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That dev has stood down

south laurel
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I've heard there was also some weird "don't say gay" stuff going on on the official discord and that there's currently a civil war among the mods

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I'm not keeping up with it myself but I see my friends talking about it

pliant violet
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Yes well @languid lichen was keeping some eye on it

south laurel
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Gotcha

languid lichen
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yeah, I kind of popped in coincidentally during the powder keg's explosion and was trying to figure out anything concrete

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but it looked, from the points I was popping in and out, that there was a Chud Eruption and the staff have been trying to sort that out

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the server's on total lockdown atm I think

fickle thicket
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precious shot of Dot in OP3

fickle thicket
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GREAT episode gotdamn

red rampart
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Oh hey now that I've played violet I can actually fill out the gen 8 and 9 rows of this

obtuse ravine
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oooohh

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is this from a site or something

red rampart
obtuse ravine
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tyty

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i hate sharks

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wait wrong channel

arctic dagger
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Sharpedo: If God touches it 8 times, it dies because of how sharp its skin is.

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Humans: GIVE IT GOOD HUGS

languid lichen
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look, sustained contact still only counts as one

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pokeworld humans are basically just eevees

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normal types that sometimes mutate/adapt/develop other single-type affinities

arctic dagger
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Why

snow cobalt
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I don't think that's true

south laurel
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Danke

soft isleBOT
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Thanks, we hate it!

honest cairn
obtuse ravine
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what is that

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😨

soft isleBOT
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clodsire with human legs

obtuse ravine
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he is very fast

honest cairn
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is there a way to get this things hidden ability? because if so,,,,

languid lichen
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yeah

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i think mons can just have their HA

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eggs can definitely have the HA, i got rufflet's through one

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and there's an item that...triples? the chance of wilds getting HAs

honest cairn
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like once you catch multiples you can choose the ability when you pick as a starter?

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i just got some crazy shit in these eggs,,, kings shield tachyon cutter piplup, shiny venonat with earth power

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fuckin lets go eevee moves, wtf i love gacha now

arctic dagger
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But yeah the more you catch of any given Pokemon the more you unlock about it

honest cairn
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thats what i meant at least, cool. so you can also change nature i assume, basically averaging the best aspects of all the versions of the mon you find ?

arctic dagger
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No

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You just have the best

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Of all of every aspect

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No average

honest cairn
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sick

arctic dagger
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If you catch one with Max hp they'll all have Max hp

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After that

languid lichen
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yeah every "piece" of anything you've ever gotten is unlocked

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you can choose which version (standard/shiny/variant shinies), have the best of each IV, any nature you've caught, any ability (including HA) you've seen, and all EMs you've unlocked

pliant violet
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decided to revert to my eevee chimchar max luck start

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using a shiny palpitoad

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got an extra exp all and extra green exp charm before first boss

honest cairn
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MULTI LENS LETS GOO

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not sure who to put it on

languid lichen
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which one's that?

honest cairn
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it makes every move hit twice, the second time at lower power i think?

languid lichen
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ahh

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both times at lower power afaik

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i think it's lower total damage

honest cairn
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two hits of 82 percent hmmm

red rampart
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Being Larry is suffering

honest cairn
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i put it on my lombre hope it works well

languid lichen
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well, i got a purrloin but liepard sucks

honest cairn
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ive never gotten a shiny before in any game : (

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technically i just pulled one but my brother found the egg so its not really mine spiritually

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but i imagine its much easier in rogue

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got swords dance and nothing learns it on my team 😿

red rampart
obtuse ravine
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LOL

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what a selection

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ah it saves ur cookies or something, so i can come back to it

arctic dagger
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I tried to use it and then just was like "Nahhhh"

arctic dagger
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It's only supposed to give you TM drops you can use

honest cairn
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well, it technically does but im not giving it to lombre lol

arctic dagger
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Oh well, ok fine.

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Yes it will give you useless shit drops

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Like Ice punch for gengar or something

honest cairn
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nothing can utilize effectively it is a better sentence

obtuse ravine
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WHAT IS THIS

arctic dagger
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Mega sableeye

honest cairn
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the best

obtuse ravine
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this is amazing

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i need it

arctic dagger
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Mega Sableye is one of my favorite megas

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Because it's actually a decision to mega evolve or not

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Going from Prankster to Magic Bounce is sometimes bad

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XD

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And sometimes incredible!

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And the enemy has to try to decide which one you're gonna be

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So they'll often swap out from Sableye from a terrain setup

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And you nail the one coming in with a status effect and didn't even mega evolve

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😄

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In formats the opponent didn't know what item you were taking

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It was super funny

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Because you could jsut run Focus Sash or something

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But the opponent has to act like you'll be Mega Sableye potentially

obtuse ravine
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that's pretty cool

pliant violet
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the fact you don't get a candy when evolving a pokemon is a bummer

pliant violet
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it and mawile are megas i really like

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for the reason of they're not super good without them

arctic dagger
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Yeh

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Although TBH I think history has said just

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I'd rather they were just evos for the most part

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It was cool to see like

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The lesser power pokemon get cool toys

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But like Gardevoir, Blaziken, etc

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THey didn''t need megas

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Lmao

pliant violet
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ye

arctic dagger
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TBH I think they shoulda been mostly evos like Chansey -> Blissey where the stats don't change much at all

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Or alternate final evos

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Or something

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For the most part

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Like Heracross having Skill Link is cool, but it coulda just been another Ability

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Didn't need a huge stat boost

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Pinsir on the other hand going Flying/Bug with Aerilate was a really cool shift in what the pokemon actually needed to do

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So it probably needed to be an evo

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Same with Kangaskan

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But like, Mega Gengar should never have existed

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But like Mega Scizor should even more have never existed

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It didn't even change abilities

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It's Technician both ways

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What's the point

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Moar Stats Good

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Omega Ruby/Sapphire has most of my favorite megas

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They seemed to have figured out them actually doing something DIFFERENT was important

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Mega Slowbro going from Regenerator to Shell Armor and way more stats is actually a tradeoff, you might want to keep Sharpedo in normal form for a turn or two maybe to get some Speed Boost procs depending, etc

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Mega Beedrill deserved better than still being sub-500 stats even in its mega lmao

red rampart
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Eh, it's stats while mega evolved are very well distributed even with a low stat total

arctic dagger
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Sure, nad it was also still one of the worst megas

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If it had Huge Power like Mega Mawile that'd be fine, something that cheated its stats

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But it had Adaptability, which is... Good

languid lichen
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damn, not a manaphy

red rampart
languid lichen
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beedrill?

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it wasn't one of the worst megas lmfao

#

it was incredibly good

#

because it was 150 atk 145 spe with an extremely powerful u-turn

red rampart
#

150 attack, 145 speed, and adaptability go a long way

languid lichen
#

yeah

#

pjab hit like a truck

#

and its monstrous u-turn was incredible in the gen 6-7 UU meta full of darks (and fairies that were scared of pjab)

red rampart
#

It's funny how in order to make mega beedrill work they had to take away 30 points in special attack
It's not the only mega to lose stats after evolving but it is the funniest one

languid lichen
#

i think mega diancie is one of my favorites from a design standpoint

arctic dagger
#

I mean, I agree it was like, UU usable, but it was still one of the worst I think? Like there's a lot of megas and not that high of a % were worse than it.

languid lichen
#

it was not, no

red rampart
#

There are a lot of NU and RU megas

languid lichen
#

it was very good in its tier

arctic dagger
#

Offhand I count about ten megas I think are maybe worse than it, which puts it in the bottom 25% of megas?

#

To me that's one of the worst.

#

You might use the term differently?

#

It's worth noting I played OU mostly, so like, "Not OU viable" was my general thought for "One of the worst megas is anything I can't use in the tier really"

#

I felt like it got outclassed by every other bug mega

pliant violet
#

it's also worth considering the value of how much a mega improved it

arctic dagger
#

True!

#

It's one of my favorite megas.

#

TBH

#

Because it was on a pokemon that deserved it

pliant violet
#

i'm a known mega hater

arctic dagger
#

But I still wish it was better

#

XD

pliant violet
#

but only cause they fucked up distribution

arctic dagger
#

Yeah that's my problem with the paradox pokemon

#

Suddenly everything is 600 BST

pliant violet
#

my fave mechanic is tera

#

genuinely think it's very good

arctic dagger
#

Lessee... Tera > Megas > Z Moves > Dynamax IMO?

#

Am I missing one?

red rampart
#

Tera is such a cool mechanic tbh

pliant violet
#

no that's them

arctic dagger
#

Ok cool

pliant violet
#

i like dyna over mega in practise

#

in concept megas are great

red rampart
#

And it's also significantly less overwhelming than the other three

pliant violet
#

Z are my least favourite

arctic dagger
#

Dynas and Z moves just slanted things SO offense focused

#

I didn't like it

#

You at least could do some defensive megas

pliant violet
#

Z are also just a nuke

red rampart
#

Dynas could deal damage through protect right?

pliant violet
#

so can Z

arctic dagger
#

Yeah

#

Dynas got like, instant banned in comp

#

It was so funny

manic kindle
arctic dagger
#

...

#

I actually like that

pliant violet
#

ok but like

#

cute

arctic dagger
#

XD

#

Yeah

#

THat's WAY cuter

#

I think I might have actually used it

#

That said, Galarian Zigzagoon is also a huge upgrade visually

#

Actually interesting

red rampart
#

Thank god they learned from those mistakes and made sure that nothing could go through protect in the future 🙂

pliant violet
#

i feel like the early birds have been getting worse but early bugs and mammals kicking it outta the park

#

also newest pika clone second best

#

after mimikyu

red rampart
#

I just realized that I have no idea what paldea's regional bird is

languid lichen
#

wattrel

#

it's pretty good, i think

#

and corviknight is very good

#

i appreciate that it's finally a bird that starts pure flying

pliant violet
#

ok yeah maybe i was a bit harsh

#

unfezant lives on in my mind

arctic dagger
#

LMAO

#

Fair

#

TBH

languid lichen
#

unfeazant isn't even new

arctic dagger
#

Last regional bird I really loved was talonflame I think

languid lichen
#

and it's better than noctowl, imo

manic kindle
#

I love route 1 bugs

red rampart
#

Oh right this thing

arctic dagger
#

Kilowattrel

#

It's not bad

manic kindle
#

Route 1 Bugs My Beloveds

arctic dagger
#

Murdoc about to roll up with a team of nothing but caterpillars

red rampart
pliant violet
#

mono bug is fun

arctic dagger
#

Violet actually has some really cool bugs

#

Just uh

languid lichen
#

only really a fan of lokix and slither wing

arctic dagger
#

Pretend Spidops isn't real

#

And you're good

red rampart
#

Vespiquen 😌

languid lichen
#

rabsca is take it or leave it, and spidops sucks

red rampart
#

What does spidops even do anyway

languid lichen
#

so 50/50 ig

#

set sticky webs and die

manic kindle
#

SPIDOPS IS MY BOY

arctic dagger
#

But it's just bad

pliant violet
#

lokix is good

manic kindle
#

Nymble so cute

arctic dagger
#

I don't think anything has topped Snom in a while though

#

For bugs

red rampart
#

Oh yeah, lokix is a kamen rider reference right?

manic kindle
#

Charjabug numero uno

arctic dagger
pliant violet
#

there's only been one gen since snom tbf

pliant violet
arctic dagger
#

Ok but

#

Snom is peak

#

All of Pokemon

#

Just building up to Snom

#

It's a pity Frosmoth is so bad lmao

manic kindle
#

Frosmoth so pretty

pliant violet
#

bug ice is a typing of all time

arctic dagger
#

Two 4x weaknesses

#

So sad

#

Only 3 resists

#

Frosmoth is both slow and not defensive.

#

It has one of the coolest defensive abilities in the game IMO

#

But just

#

No stats to use it

#

XD

manic kindle
#

Just get gud and hit those quiver dances

red rampart
#

Thank god for terastalization

snow cobalt
manic kindle
#

Ive just stopped caring if a pokemon is Good since i can make any of them work in game

arctic dagger
#

I mostly only play pokemon games through romhacks and comp these days

#

XD

#

I play the new ones when they come out but

#

It's a small fraction of my total pokemon playtime

manic kindle
#

I just want to take Beedrill to the e4 yknow

#

Thats my Boy

languid lichen
#

out of an epic egg

#

still no other shiny eggs, even with the triple shiny weekend

red rampart
languid lichen
#

should've all been choice banded sadcowboy

red rampart
#

Weirdly enough, none of the trainers in the ace tournament use held items
Actually I can't remember a single paldea trainer that actually uses held items at all 🤔

languid lichen
#

wack

#

I thought they'd been making trainers more competitively viable recently

#

at least in like the endgame and DLCs

red rampart
#

Oh they do

#

But for some reason it mostly applies to the trainers from blueberry academy 🤷‍♀️

#

Anyway with that done I should be able to do the mochi mayhem thing, which I'm sure is something that's not at all silly and deserves to be taken seriously

red rampart
#

I don’t think you want to know the answer

#

...oh god the protagonist never mentioned anything about Kieran to their friends, amazing

#

Okay maybe not mentioning him to Nemona was for his own safety

pliant violet
red rampart
#

Yeh

red rampart
red rampart
#

On one hand rude, on the other hand yeah thats accurate

red rampart
#

She's been here for like 5 hours and she spent half of it mind controlled, how the hell did Nemona catch and train a kommo-o in that time sweating

snow cobalt
#

She's Just That Good

red rampart
#

...and a milotic

#

I'm pretty sure you need to trade to get one of those

snow cobalt
#

nah she used the old evolution method: making a feebas absolutely beautiful

red rampart
#

Also stealth rock is really annoying

#

Also I love how Pechrunt’s shell makes it look completely do we with everything

#

Almost like it’s going “yeah I have no idea why these people are chanting ‘mochi’ or doing the chicken dance either”

pliant violet
#

I would be too

red rampart
#

Ogerpon is angry at this thing, fun

#

...it has gotten three nasty plots up, at least it doesn't have any priority moves

pliant violet
#

When the plot is nasty

red rampart
#

And despite that ogerpon still would've tanked a shadowball if it weren't for her being poisoned

#

Also pecharunt is the most pathetic looking pokemon I've ever seen

pliant violet
#

Idk Pokémon has some real wet rats

red rampart
#

But like, more pathetic than this?

snow cobalt
red rampart
#

Okay true

#

I feel like having a pecharunt in my party is a health and safety hazard, but it's probably fine if I just leave it in a box for all eternity

pliant violet
#

Put it in the same party as ogrepon

#

🙂

red rampart
#

That would just end up with one of them dead

#

Which admittedly she already killed the loyal three so she might as well kill their leader too

pliant violet
#

Well pecharunt only became their leader when it bought them back right?

red rampart
#

I think it's supposed to be where they got their toxic chains from

#

gdi Carmine

#

Okay I think that's all of the story stuff with Violet done, so that's nice

#

Probably my favorite pokemon games so far (especially if we include the dlc), but that might just be because it was brand new to me

pliant violet
#

Carmine and nemona cannot be allowed to be unsupervised together

spring hedge
#

oh shit a pokéthread

red rampart
pliant violet
#

Oh shit

red rampart
#

I am definitely not planning to do a second playthrough immediately, absolutely not

#

Though if I do I'm not sure if I'd do a monotype/challenge run of some sort or just play it normally again but with a different set of pokemon

#

...I wonder how you'd do a nuzlocke in this game 🤔

olive kayak
#

well, we've done it. Hearthome gauntlet down in renegade platinum, still deathless. \o/

#

Saturn feels like a victory lap

#

some VERY weirdness happened with Fantina, we almost wiped, the sacrifice I attempted to make to prevent the wipe was refused by the pokemon gods and we somehow got out unscathed lol

#

the gengar is normally easy to pp stall but uh, dummy drifblim passed it -4 special attack and now it's AI is a disaster >_>

#

I learned a LOT there

umbral hound
#

fun fact: pokemon released an official lil video about the history of Pecharunt explaining why having it in your party is okay, actually.

pliant violet
#

got final boss down to last bar

#

it used recover

snow cobalt
#

😭

languid lichen
#

oh shit

#

it has a semi-random moveset then?

pliant violet
#

i guess so?

red rampart
#

Penny why

manic kindle
#

Too busy writing fanfic

red rampart
#

And bingeing anime

red rampart
#

Looking at the version exclusives of SV and their dlc and this seems a bit unbalanced

south laurel
#

Folks

#

Is Durant ... good?

#

Why the fuck is Durant good?

#

It has Hustle and Hone Claws and decent stab moves and good physical stats and speed and a very strong typing

#

What the fuck my world is imploding

#

I always just assumed it was bad

#

My psyche is collapsing

#

The fucking ant pokemon that heatmor eats is good

cerulean dune
#

Durant shows up really late in Gen 5 but was really funny to have, vaporizes when hit by SpA fire attacks.

south laurel
#

Sure it's not like ... top tier or anything

#

But it's solid

#

You could put it on an in-game team and have a great time

arctic dagger
#

Yeah

#

That's true.

#

I mean it's bug/steel

#

With ok stats

#

Can only be so bad

south laurel
#

Also for some reason it can get First Impression as an Egg Move wut

arctic dagger
#

Is this pokerogue?

#

If so people get all kinds of silly things they don't normally as egg moves

cerulean dune
#

That sounds incredibly rude combined with Durant's stats and Hustle

south laurel
#

Naw, Gen 8 it can learn First Impression as an Egg Move

#

Ah, not in 9 tho

arctic dagger
#

They removed a lot of moves in 9

#

From pokemon

#

Which was mostly for the best

#

IMO

south laurel
#

Ehhhhhh

#

Anyway First Impression isn't gone in 9

#

There are still things that learn it

#

Including Slither Wing

red rampart
south laurel
#

Oh huh, it gets Stomping Tantrum

#

A move that doubles its power if it missed or was prevented from going the previous turn

#

So you combine that with Hustle

#

Ground Type 150 base power off of Hustle and a decent attack is uh

#

Nothing to sneeze at

languid lichen
#

you never want tantrum to be 150

#

because it means your Durant didn't kill something last turn

fickle thicket
languid lichen
#

in an endless and finally got a new decent shiny egg

#

also what the fuck

red rampart
#

Tapu Fini in disguise

languid lichen
#

guess i've hit the point where bosses start to show up as normal encounters

#

but also xerneas + eternal floette is a surprising boss

red rampart
#

There are apparently heels in this game

#

They are admittedly kinda pathetic heels

#

Kind wish there were any skirts/dresses in this game ngl

iron lake
#

skirts/dresses as a customization option makes any game like 20% more playable

obtuse ravine
#

true 😩

manic kindle
#

I do miss the XY variety in lower body coverage

obtuse ravine
#

yeah it seems to have a lot, swsh too (many cool things in dlc tho nikopensive )

languid lichen
#

this motherfucker is never evolvinmg

pliant violet
#

He does not love you

languid lichen
#

yeah i just used it for a pickup mon since it was one of the daily pokerus

obtuse ravine
#

might restart this one too, but not now cuz i do have X still, and I'm cutting down my jame time

languid lichen
#

da boys

#

god the wave 500 fight is fuuuucked

#

having to deal with ||an eternatus every 250 waves is fucking brutal||

#

i can see what guides meant with like

#

"you want to get a night shade mon because scaling gets absurd"

languid lichen
#

oh nice, my first custom shiny

pliant violet
#

Oh lovely

#

I’ve still yet to run into a wild shiny

languid lichen
#

I'm on 3 shiny charms at about 550-600 in an endless

pliant violet
#

That’ll do it

languid lichen
#

and I believe it was a 3x shiny weekend, to boot

pliant violet
#

Oh it was?

languid lichen
#

but not sure if it's still going on, I have no way to tell

#

yeah there was an announcement on the server

pliant violet
#

Time is fake

languid lichen
#

but there are no patch notes and I don't know when it ended

languid lichen
#

i had to resort to savescumming

#

and my run is fucked

#

because all my mons are dead and magician stole like all the items

#

but i got it babeeee

#

took some very fucking specific sequencing

pliant violet
#

You caught a shiny hoopa?

languid lichen
#

of munchlax swapping + king's shielding + tanking hits to get extremely low hp for very specific rng

#

yeah

pliant violet
#

Ring ring there’s a champion

languid lichen
#

goobus acquired

#

i had one master ball a couple waves ago

pliant violet
#

Oof

languid lichen
#

but a fucking gale wings kilowattrel just

#

fucked the team up too hard

#

and i couldn't figure out a sequence to save em

#

so i had to burn it to pass through that boss

#

and right after

#

i managed to roll into another

#

lmao hi

pliant violet
#

Run ain’t dead yet

languid lichen
#

wonder if there's a way i can pick this one up without the master ball

#

yep

unreal seal
pliant violet
#

first wild shiny

#

vespiquen

snow cobalt
#

oooooh

pliant violet
#

in pokerogue not a real game

arctic dagger
#

Damn vicious

#

Poor pokerogue

obtuse ravine
#

😭

red rampart
obtuse ravine
#

no cyndaquil in sword

honest cairn
#

havent played much of rogue but finally had my first hard boss battle

#

huge power azumarill and an adaptability protean greninjasweating

#

welll, hard-ish ig

#

found the linking cord 😭

honest cairn
#

relic gold 2 games in a row lets GOGOOOOOO

#

ive finally got a pretty good game almost at 100, how high do runs usually go

obtuse ravine
#

nice nice

#

i've gotten highest 95 myself

honest cairn
#

peat block >_<

#

my current team

#

this is my second run but ive heard the next ivy fight is nasty

#

38k in the bank all fully evolved mons im feeling positive

#

the mega rayquaza 20 minutes later

#

tm toxic 😭

#

ill stop livetweeting but damn

languid lichen
#

ayy, booted the run back up and i've found The Boy

#

the boy acquired

#

god i really love the honedge line's shiny

honest cairn
#

its so sick

obtuse ravine
#

oooh

honest cairn
#

mega bracelet, no megas 😭

#

wait alakazam

#

im illiterate

languid lichen
#

also lmao kartana has two golden punches

#

and is generating 16k per hit

#

didn't realize until i got these at like 710 that golden punch just counts raw damage dealt

#

not like

#

damage dealt to health

#

although huh, maybe there's an overkill threshold

#

because killing sturdy donphans only generates like 2k on the second hit

languid lichen
#

probably about to wipe to the 750 boss

#

the 250s are rough

#

actually i forgot kartana is just built different

#

and stacking focus sashes is broken

#

thank you +1 berries, you are also busted

red rampart
#

...yeah that sounds about right for sinnoh

honest cairn
#

speaking of incineroar i saw this image yesterday

red rampart
#

Oh god

snow cobalt
#

What did they mean by this

red rampart
red rampart
#

I could get most of my dex filled out by just trading a bunch of paradox mons couldn't I 🤔

languid lichen
#

i just got two washtoms in a row lmao

obtuse ravine
#

hello trainers 😌

#

started sword again, might hold off on going into it until i beat X tho

#

my friend also decided to make a new save when he saw me playing it

#

we both started making cute fits >:3

#

i have one in mind but I'll wear my current one for a while first, it's just the starting parka with black pants and a white top or smth

obtuse ravine
languid lichen
#

let's see whether i get no-diffed by the 1k

#

yeah :(

#

can't crack it

wispy yarrow
#

Started a playthrough of Pokemon Crystal Legacy

#

Gonna go for a complete pokedex

#

all the QOL is so fucking nice

honest cairn
#

megas are permeant in pokerogue intensifeyes

#

are you supposed to get the entire paldea elite four members after one another without any party heals? or am i just unlucky as hell (maybe im just broke)

honest cairn
#

no heals before the fight , 6 dragons each with like 5 berries and focus bands

#

ive explored all permutations, its so over

snow cobalt
fickle thicket
obtuse ravine
#

photo

#

resolution iffy cuz it's zoomed out but what can you do

fickle thicket
#

man...

obtuse ravine
#

dang

#

the passage of time

fickle thicket
#

anyway I opened this channel to announce that I got a perfect score in opinions. John Gamefreak himself called me up to congratulate me on being so correct all the time.

obtuse ravine
#

o7

#

i've done gen 1-3

#

many cool mons

#

what's dis

red rampart
#

Buzzwole

fickle thicket
#

funfact I've got a box full of these in sun

obtuse ravine
#

so swole

fickle thicket
#

an entire box

#

just for a lark I bred an eevee (despite the fact that you can catch them in that game) and put it on the GTS for a buzzwole and it worked

#

and it kept working

#

and now I've got a box of em

fickle thicket
red rampart
#

Gen 5, 7, and 9 my beloveds

obtuse ravine
#

i like 2 and 5 gladeline

#

2 cuz hgss was my first 😌

#

and then 5 was really nice

#

as a world

fickle thicket
#

7>3>6>4>5>9>2>1>8 I'd say
purely pokémon design-wise

obtuse ravine
#

ooh cool

#

7 was uhh

#

sun and moon

fickle thicket
#

sm

obtuse ravine
#

?

fickle thicket
#

yeah

obtuse ravine
#

gotcha

#

only played a lil of that

fickle thicket
#

just banger after banger and also drampa

red rampart
#

I wish drampa wasn't so late in the game 😔

fickle thicket
#

they got the fuckin uhhh GHOST STARTER they got the LION and BAT they got the TAPUS they got the REAL PIKACHU they got the CO-OP APES they got the PALM TREE they got the DRAGON MADE OF LIGHT they got the MF ULTRA BEASTS

red rampart
#

Sun gets turtonator in brush mountain, moon gets drampa right before the elite four 😩

fickle thicket
#

pokemon designer meeting 2014 "hey what if we just went haywire, what if we just went apeshit" and then they drew the coolest set of legendaries(?) in the entire series

red rampart
#

Naganadel 😌

obtuse ravine
#

whoaaaa

#

leaf blower....

red rampart
obtuse ravine
#

it is very cool

#

it is lol, same with the buzzwole

#

i should grab this without the caption

#

even though it is a very good caption

fickle thicket
#

literally the only thing gen 7 is missing is fossils

#

I am 200% certain they would've slapped your ass clean off

obtuse ravine
#

this is just like guilty gear

#

increased crit chance

#

time to cook

earnest nacelle
#

Ah yes Normal STAB

obtuse ravine
#

oh wait

#

i just sent away shadow sneak

#

which is the only STAB move i had on honedge

fickle thicket
#

honedge protip (but also a spoiler I guess?): ||keep that dusk stone in your pocket until your doublade knows swords dance and sacred sword||

obtuse ravine
obtuse ravine
#

sword and shield has honedge at least

#

would be really funny if it didn't

#

but it's in the north

#

aww mystery gifts are all expired :(

iron lake
snow cobalt
#

train gender 🚄

obtuse ravine
#

aww i just took a quick look at that pikachu art

#

😌

manic kindle
#

a quickachu look

obtuse ravine
#

bless you

manic kindle
#

thank you <3

obtuse ravine
#

hop should stop yapping whenever i hit a type advantage and start doing it himself

#

it's cool how pokerogue trainers will swap

pliant violet
#

they changed some egg moves

fickle thicket
#

me omw to buzzwole (the best ultra beast)

languid lichen
#

wrong

#

kartana

#

origami papercut samurai slaps

fickle thicket
#

kartana is up there too

#

solid top placer, just not #1

obtuse ravine
#

:o

arctic dagger
#

I'm a big nihilego fan

#

Personally

south laurel
#

Celesteela is best beast

obtuse ravine
#

but otherwise they usually just eat the type disadvantage

#

fighting gym

#

honedge + 3x swords dance + aerial ace

pliant violet
#

+L+ratio

fickle thicket
honest cairn
#

is there any way to know when an ivy battle is about to happen in pokerogue?? becuase i just lost a run because i had 3 mons killed by a dusknoir that wouldnt go into a ball, and then it put me directly into her fight, is there always the same amount of fights on a stage

languid lichen
#

yes, rival is at 8, 25, 55, 95, 1...45?, and 190 or 195, idr which

#

will check

#

think 195

#

that would fit the pattern of +10 each time

honest cairn
#

this was 130 so idk

#

but yeah, i would have been able to win but her boss healthbar rayquaza gets arbitrary speed boost 😭 i hate/love this game

pliant violet
#

It’s not arbitrary peep the items in the top right

honest cairn
#

i understand the berries and such but i was under the impression that enemies with boss healthbars also just get stat boosts at those lined damage thresholds

#

and i know i also have tons of items so i think its fine im mostly salty

#

i should have just thrown a damn rogue ball at the dusknoir

obtuse ravine
#

mfw i only get 2 shakes after mashing A like a maniac

#

wow i feel like catch chances are much lower in sword, this stufful is maybe 10-15% and nada

#

ok perfect it used endure

#

I'm noticing the same thing as my first playthrough where I'm getting a bit overleveled

#

probably due to being able to get level 18s from raid battles when my team was around 12, but even not using those pokemon I soared through the first gym

...not really a fair assessment tho since milo had 2 pokemon and i had raboot

#

i can just grab lower level stuff to keep it spicy

#

i changed my hair! it looks pretty nice now 😌

manic kindle
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I really enjoyed making a fresh team (sans starter) each gym in Sword

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Fit the vibes of my main pokemon oc

obtuse ravine
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may give that a try

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😌

red rampart
honest cairn
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Pokerogue has also not had a good day, ddos I think

obtuse ravine
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where is dreepy going

languid lichen
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Hell

honest cairn
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either the login for pokerogue isnt working or i forgot my password and lost all my shit 😭

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because the server is finally back up it seems but im logged out

languid lichen
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seems down

pliant violet
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is pokerogue loading endlessly for anyone else?

languid lichen
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's down, i think

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got ddossed apparently

pliant violet
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bummer ty

wispy yarrow
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Crystal Legacy is so incredibly fun

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Just the adjustments to moves alone have made it so much more fun

red rampart
azure crane
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The reason PokeRogue is being DDOSed is apparently because the developers and moderators were being transphobic on the official Discord.

red rampart
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Again?

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I thought the transphobic dev left and the mods were kicked out

languid lichen
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i'd thought so

obtuse ravine
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D:

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that's a bummer to hear

languid lichen
pliant violet
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I had one as a boss once and I had to kill it

languid lichen
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rip

near flower
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you know what i really wish theyd bring back? actually having to grow berries
i know bdsp had them but that game is soooo ugly imo
xy did some crazy ass shit with some whacky crossbreeding mechanics and i want to see more of that. i know pokecom/gamefreak are really weird about making 'complicated' things these days but idgaf! i wanna be pokemon gregor mendel

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if theres a fangame out there with a focus on berry mechanics please lemme see

manic kindle
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love the mental image of a bunch of pokemon monks growing beans

obtuse ravine
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pokemon stardew valley